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Title: World War Z
Post by: Lembach on June 25, 2013, 04:10:14 AM
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Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Trekker4747 on June 25, 2013, 07:06:55 AM
Eh, I liked the movie.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on June 25, 2013, 11:22:57 AM
I did enjoy it. Besides, this movie essentially sidesteps the book because it's about the BEGINNING of the zombie appocolypse, not the aftermath of the ending. It kind of reminds me when they make a video game adaptation, and for some reason decide to make it a prequel to the storyline of the game.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: ManUnderMask on June 25, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
The funny thing is people who think the Battle of Yonkers would ever be filmed. The military will not cooperate on a scene that makes them look bad.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on June 25, 2013, 12:59:25 PM
The funny thing is people who think the Battle of Yonkers would ever be filmed. The military will not cooperate on a scene that makes them look bad.
What? They always look incompetant in Michael Bay movies.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: ManUnderMask on June 25, 2013, 08:45:48 PM
What? They always look incompetant in Michael Bay movies.

Go look it up. The military won't support any film that makes them look evil, incompetent, or any of a whole list of other reasons. The Battle of Yonkers is the epitome of incompetence. No way they'd support that. The Battle of Hope on the other hand...
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Nunyerbiz on June 25, 2013, 09:29:26 PM
Is there an exact reason why in today's world of eight digit CGI budgets that a movie studio would need 'the military' to cooperate? If I had the money available to push the pixels, couldn't I show the US Marines getting their asses handed to them by the Garbage Pail Kids?
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on June 26, 2013, 09:39:51 PM
Is there an exact reason why in today's world of eight digit CGI budgets that a movie studio would need 'the military' to cooperate? If I had the money available to push the pixels, couldn't I show the US Marines getting their asses handed to them by the Garbage Pail Kids?

Pentagon cooperation usually assures a great help in the budget department. And as bloated as those budgets gets, Hollywood will still take a break when and where they can.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 27, 2013, 05:17:14 PM
Me and my friend never read the book, but we watched it last night.  I didn't like it very much, but he was REALLY into it.  Over all, it's biggest flaw was it just wasn't that interesting, but here are some of the things that bugged me.

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And finally, this really feels like Left 4 Dead without the super-zombies.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on June 27, 2013, 05:40:30 PM
I agree with most of your points. And it is very videogame-ey.
Personally, I liked the look of the zombies. At least, the ones we get to really see, done with practical makeup. The digital ones during the big crowd scenes didn't look like good. But in those scenes the point was the rush of the crowd, rather than the decay.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Trekker4747 on June 27, 2013, 07:04:16 PM
About the zombie on the plane:

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Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on June 27, 2013, 07:36:29 PM
About the zombie on the plane:

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I've heard that explanation, and it makes more sense. But I think they should have done something so it didn't look like the zombie was in the bathroom.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 27, 2013, 07:42:13 PM
"ZOMBIES NEED TO POO, TOO!"
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: wihogfan on June 28, 2013, 12:10:03 PM
I thought it was the worst movie I've seen in a long, long time, even by summer blockbuster standards. It was the only movie I’ve ever seen where I thought a quipping, smirking Will Smith would have been a welcome addition (and I hate Will Smith).

Some of its sins (IMHO):
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Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Trekker4747 on June 28, 2013, 01:03:43 PM
About the zombie on the plane:

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I've heard that explanation, and it makes more sense. But I think they should have done something so it didn't look like the zombie was in the bathroom.

We see the flight attendant pressing the call button for the elevator. It's quick but it's there and I guess you kind of have to know what you're looking for to really notice it and I tend to pick up details like that sometimes.  I can see how some would mistake it for the lav but it wasn't. 
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on June 28, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
Yeah, I think it's mostly because the general public isn't familiar with that type of plane, and how it differs from the typical residential flight like we take.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Trekker4747 on June 28, 2013, 05:54:23 PM
Yeah, they could've put something in there making it clearer on what was happening like a hum and the sight of the elevator car rising behind the doors and THEN the zombie breaking out the doors.  The way it is she presses the button and the zombie pops right out the doors.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on June 28, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
Yeah, they could've put something in there making it clearer on what was happening like a hum and the sight of the elevator car rising behind the doors and THEN the zombie breaking out the doors.  The way it is she presses the button and the zombie pops right out the doors.
;D It's like a zombie vending machine.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Trekker4747 on June 28, 2013, 07:17:36 PM
Yeah, they could've put something in there making it clearer on what was happening like a hum and the sight of the elevator car rising behind the doors and THEN the zombie breaking out the doors.  The way it is she presses the button and the zombie pops right out the doors.
;D It's like a zombie vending machine.

Dammit! The zombie got stuck in the machine again! Somebody help me rock this thing to get 'em loose!

Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: wihogfan on June 28, 2013, 07:35:50 PM
Zombie vending machine....that would have been injected some humor into a movie that really needed it. Not that it was ovelry serious either, but it lacked horror and I thought the action lacked tension, so humor might have been it's saving grace. Which is why it begs for a Rifftax release.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Ben on June 30, 2013, 04:48:51 PM
I think the "fast zombie" trend has reached its creative endgame with WORLD WAR Z. I mean, what can they do next? Make the zombies move so quickly they break the sound barrier?
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on June 30, 2013, 04:50:09 PM
I think the "fast zombie" trend has reached its creative endgame with WORLD WAR Z. I mean, what can they do next? Make the zombies move so quickly they break the sound barrier?
Make them climb on ceilings? Nah, that'd be stupid...
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: The Lurker on June 30, 2013, 04:50:58 PM
Mime zombies?
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on June 30, 2013, 04:55:43 PM
In the Day of the Dead remake there were some that did that
http://www.youtube.com/v/DWCP1DYfbEw

(around 30 seconds in)
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 30, 2013, 07:57:52 PM
I think the "fast zombie" trend has reached its creative endgame with WORLD WAR Z. I mean, what can they do next? Make the zombies move so quickly they break the sound barrier?
Make them climb on ceilings? Nah, that'd be stupid...

So you are saying no to the Lionel Ritchie zombie?
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: wihogfan on July 03, 2013, 01:13:51 PM
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I think the "fast zombie" trend has reached its creative endgame with WORLD WAR Z. I mean, what can they do next? Make the zombies move so quickly they break the sound barrier?
What can they do next? Make a movie that isn't totally terrible like WORLD WAR Z.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on July 03, 2013, 01:23:25 PM
SO were the zombies fast or slow in the book?
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 03, 2013, 02:06:39 PM
SO were the zombies fast or slow in the book?

They were the traditional Romero-style walkers, like in his Zombie Survival Guide. The nature of how they move and act is actually a rather big part of the universe he's crafted, actually (ditto the rate at which the disease spread).
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Compound on July 03, 2013, 02:44:24 PM

Some of its sins (IMHO):
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Actually....

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Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on July 03, 2013, 04:24:02 PM
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Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Bob on July 04, 2013, 07:04:24 AM
I think I have seen enough that I will only watch that when it becomes a Riff.  I can see it being a Rifftrax or someone good making an iRiff out of it.  Then it is cheap DVD shopping time.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: tejava joe on July 04, 2013, 02:43:40 PM
NEEDS MORE GORE
(https://lh3.ggpht.com/-WCcIjfBlKZ0/TaeHvU2zHgI/AAAAAAAAATc/BdKlf6n9U48/s320/DOTD11.jpg)

NEEDS AN UNHAPPY ENDING
(http://www.cinemorgue2.com/duanejones.jpg)

Otherwise its NOT a zombie movie. 
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 04, 2013, 04:53:20 PM
Mmm... I disagree.  I think that it could be more visceral, but there are always clever ways around blood and gore if you are imaginitive.  But yeah, it should at least feel like the characters had to deal with that.

As for unhappy ending, while I'm not like Thrifty who very much dislikes happy endings, I don't see why.  Granted, perhaps they should throw more weight behind the fact that BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE DEAD!  That said, you can't say you dislike Shawn of the Dead, can you?  That had a happy ending.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Darth Geek on July 04, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
The happy ending in Shaun of the Dead felt earned, I thought.

In World War Z, the ending is hopeful, but not a happy ending because the war isn't over.
Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 04, 2013, 05:41:13 PM
Plus Brad Pitt's family

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Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: tejava joe on July 05, 2013, 03:39:04 AM
We watch game shows to experience the money.  We watch soap operas to experience the sex.  We watch zombie movies to experience the death.  Hopeless, relentless, inevitable death.  not just other people dying; us dying, the world dying, all hope dying.  Its natural to feel the urge to experience death vicariously in order to practice the idea in your mind to prepare for your own fate, to digest the concept so to speak. 
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Title: Re: World War Z
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 05, 2013, 03:43:35 AM
Well said, but I think you are underselling the ugliness of humanity that makes the zombie genre so rich.