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Title: Stephen King's Under the Dome unbearably long TV series
Post by: Thrifty Version II on June 24, 2013, 02:42:19 PM
Starts tonight, in a couple hours.  10 PM EST on CBS.  I can't wait.  I loved the book.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: MrTorso on June 24, 2013, 03:04:52 PM
Hopefully the special effects are better in the final product than in the trailers I saw weeks ago...
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Swiffer on June 24, 2013, 03:32:24 PM
Now here's the thing... is it a mini-series? If so, I'm excited, because there is a written and legit ending. (No I haven't read the book and I don't know what the ending is.) But the fact that someone did write an ending to it is exciting because so many supernatural shows just go on and on with no plans for resolution. (Pretty much every show touted as 'the next LOST' since LOST, including LOST itself).

If it's a one-and-done, 13 episode mini series and that's all that's planned -- great! But I'm going to be disappointed if it's left open-ended to see how viewership is, so they don't resolve anything in case they can milk the story for another couple of seasons of ad revenue.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: ShadowDog on June 24, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
Its one and done by all accounts.
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Post by: Bob on June 24, 2013, 06:12:19 PM
Yup, one and one.

My mom has been counting the seconds for it for weeks now.

And it runs OUTSIDE of prime time.....oh yeah.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Tripe on June 24, 2013, 08:08:19 PM
Just a general plea, do watch it, my favourite amongst Ann's cousins is working on it, try as hard as you can to make her first show a success, thnx! :)
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on June 25, 2013, 02:59:39 AM
I saw this, of course.  I like it so far.  Kinda fun seeing Hank Schrader as the villain.  I hope that's not a spoiler; he isn't yet firmly established as such yet but the foreshadowing is there.  The differences were pretty numerous, but mostly inconsequential.  Two big ones though:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Bob on June 25, 2013, 03:42:13 AM
And this show proves another good reason I have for keeping bottled water and dry packed emergency foods in a closet.

I read the story a long time ago, but I do not remember it, so that is a good thing here.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: ShadowDog on June 25, 2013, 05:30:40 PM
Yeah Barbie in the book was just a drifter which a special forces background who'd just gotten beat up and run out of town. Not sure why they turned him into a mob enforcer/ hitman. But its interesting, I'll give them that.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on June 25, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
Also, I seem to recall that in the book, Julia Shumway's husband Gordon was a short, hairy man with a big nose.  He looks nothing like that in this.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Bob on June 25, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
I think the book is so old and so not on people's minds, they can play with it as it needs.
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Post by: Tripe on June 25, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
Also, I seem to recall that in the book, Julia Shumway's husband Gordon was a short, hairy man with a big nose.  He looks nothing like that in this.
I suppose the horrible chapter featuring
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
will not show up then.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: ShadowDog on June 26, 2013, 04:06:52 AM
The series Hannibal proved that if the show is good enough the books can go to Hell.

The change to Barbie, while interesting is ODD. Its not a cosmetic change. They took the hero of the book and made him a murderer with mob connections. It would be like if Star Wars was only a book and when they make it a movie Luke Skywalker still brings down the empire but on his days off he kills prostitues. Its an odd thing to introduce. There's a difference between changing details when adapting material and flat out changing the core of who a character is. In the Casablanca remake let's make Bogart's character a woman beater!

Which makes me think there's more to it. Barbie is undercover with the mob and actually FBI. Or maybe investigating the mob for terrorism connections. The "murder" was self defense.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on June 26, 2013, 04:07:40 AM
I think the book is so old and so not on people's minds, they can play with it as it needs.
It's only like 3 or 4 years old.  I know that it was written during the Obama administration based on a couple of the lines in the book.
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Post by: Gandalf Lundgren on June 26, 2013, 11:36:45 AM
I own ever Stephen King movie and TV series so I will definitely be getting this when they put it out on dvd.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: MrTorso on June 29, 2013, 08:57:59 AM
Ha! Stephen King has an open letter to people who complain about how much was changed:

http://www.stephenking.com/promo/utd_on_tv/letter.html

Short version is: Read The Book! It hasn't changed! Ha!

Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on June 29, 2013, 09:37:43 AM
Ha! Stephen King has an open letter to people who complain about how much was changed:

http://www.stephenking.com/promo/utd_on_tv/letter.html

Short version is: Read The Book! It hasn't changed! Ha!
Well first off, I'm not complaining.  I'm observing.  I sorta like that they're there because it gives people who have read the book the chance to be surprised and wonder how the story plays out.

Secondly, didn't he have a rather different view on Stanley Kubrick's butchering of The Shining?
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: ShadowDog on June 29, 2013, 09:58:00 AM
That's a fair point but that was different. Kubrick made a completely different movie and named it after King's book. The movie was actually awesome ... but it had nothing to do with the book.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Bob on June 29, 2013, 10:02:31 AM
That's a fair point but that was different. Kubrick made a completely different movie and named it after King's book. The movie was actually awesome ... but it had nothing to do with the book.

Good point.

And in fact, most of King's books are generally filled with characters thinking to themselves that, while that makes great books, it makes hard films to make.  The only guy who did does a good job with them is Frank Darabont (i.e. The Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, etc,)
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: k1 on June 29, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
Junior looks like basically a poor man's (or possibly mannequin) Andy Samberg.  :speechless:
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on June 30, 2013, 10:31:58 AM
That's a fair point but that was different. Kubrick made a completely different movie and named it after King's book. The movie was actually awesome ... but it had nothing to do with the book.

But that's total hogwash.  It had plenty to do with the book.  The main characters were still Jack, Wendy, Danny Torrance, and Dick Halloran.  It was still about Jack getting a job at the Overlook Hotel from Stuart Ullman.  Both times he went crazy and tried to kill his family.  There were differences: BIG ones, but it was till based on the book and dare I say had less deviation than the Under the Dome miniseries does.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on July 03, 2013, 02:38:54 PM
Liked the second episode.  Jim Rennie seems less like an evil tyrant and actually seems to be a likeable guy trying to lead in this time of crisis.  In the book, he sorta jumped right into it and began asserting control immediately.  I guess that was a result of the book running on a much shorter timeline.

I wonder how long it will be before people notice Angie is missing.  Dale saw her inside the dome, as did probably a few other witnesses, so Junior can't claim she's out of town.  People, I think, know that she's involved with Junior, so all eyes are gonna be on him soon enough.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on July 16, 2013, 06:17:19 AM
I'm feeling demoralized by the stakes set up in the series.  With the fire, most of the medical staff and supplies, the meningitis outbreak, and most of the police and all of the fire department outside of the dome, it feels like the deck is way too stacked against the people of Chester's Mill.  And they say the dome is gonna be up for months instead of a week or two?  These people are screwed!

In other news, Big Jim Rennie found Angie.... gonna be fun to see how this plays out.  I get the feeling though that he's not just gonna let her go after Junior's heroics in the clinic and subsequent deputization.

And why did they change Linda's last name?  Also, I didn't recognize her in the scene near the end when she had her hair down and was dressed in civilian clothes.  I'm like "who the fuck is this lady?"

Wasn't Phil Bushey the insane meth cook in the book?  That's a pretty radically different role in the show.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: MrTorso on September 12, 2013, 04:37:59 PM
So now it is going to be an ongoing series:

http://screenrant.com/under-the-dome-season-2-renewal-stephen-king/


I guess I should read the book sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 12, 2013, 06:22:14 PM
NO GOD DAMNIT YOU CAN'T FUCKING DO THIS TO ME.

Look, the reason I didn't watch Lost during its initial run (I marathoned it on Netflix last year) is because I don't like getting jerked around by shows that spin their wheels and set up dumbass mysteries one after the other and wait forever to reveal them.  If that dome is still up after Monday's episode, I quit.  I'm not going through this shit again.
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Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 12, 2013, 06:22:41 PM
Also, Maxine fucking sucks.  Such an obnoxious character.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: k1 on September 12, 2013, 06:33:20 PM
Yeah I had only been sticking with this because it was supposed to end this season. Not sure I want to stick it out for another whole season.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome unbearably long TV series.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 13, 2013, 02:44:30 AM
Yeah I had only been sticking with this because it was supposed to end this season. Not sure I want to stick it out for another whole season.
There's just no way I'm watching beyond Monday's episode.  I barely want to watch it, now that I know for sure the dome won't be destroyed.

See, there's just no way this can turn out well.  You have a dramatic show that relies on mysteries and is a big ratings hit.  That means it's beloved by the network executives.  That means they're heavily encouraged to create new mysteries and discouraged from actually solving them in a timely manner.  It's exactly like what happened with Lost, and why I'm not interested.  I'm not in the mood to get jerked around for several years.

Not to mention that they didn't even try to adapt the book.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: MrTorso on September 13, 2013, 05:28:16 AM
But they paid a lot for that cow getting sliced in half VFX and dammit they are gonna show it every damn time!
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Bob on September 13, 2013, 06:31:35 AM
And you can watch the reruns on Amazon.com too.

Free if you are prime member.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 13, 2013, 06:49:23 AM
Make no mistake, I'll catch the whole run of the show eventually.  But not until it's officially done and I can catch it all without waiting a week between episodes.
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 13, 2013, 08:39:42 PM
Its not about the mysteries, its about the characters. The mysteries are fun but they don't mean dick unless the characters are interesting and fun. Take the series "Zero Hour." It had mysteries up the ass and a lot of them were quickly answered but the show sucked because the characters were cliched and boring and lame.  Flip side, Breaking Bad set up a mystery at the beginning of season 5 they're only going to answer in 2 weeks from now ... which is a good 14-15 months after it was first set up. That's a long damned wait but its worth it because we like the characters.

Some people get so damned caught up in the mysteries of these kinds of shows that they miss the real fun ... which is watching how people react and deal with them.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 14, 2013, 02:56:19 AM
Its not about the mysteries, its about the characters. The mysteries are fun but they don't mean dick unless the characters are interesting and fun. Take the series "Zero Hour." It had mysteries up the ass and a lot of them were quickly answered but the show sucked because the characters were cliched and boring and lame.  Flip side, Breaking Bad set up a mystery at the beginning of season 5 they're only going to answer in 2 weeks from now ... which is a good 14-15 months after it was first set up. That's a long damned wait but its worth it because we like the characters.

Some people get so damned caught up in the mysteries of these kinds of shows that they miss the real fun ... which is watching how people react and deal with them.
I just don't really like mysteries to begin with.  I don't have the patience to wait them out.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: ShadowDog on September 14, 2013, 01:08:35 PM
Yeah then this kind of show isn't for you.  You're the kind of viewer the "monster of the week" or "mystery of the week" format was invented for.  Which is fine.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 17, 2013, 04:31:51 AM
Watched the season (god damnit) finale.  I wish the news that it had been renewed for God knows how many episodes didn't disappoint me as much as it did.  I hate shit like that encounter with the apparition in the form of Norrie's white mom (I forgot the name).  You ask someone a direct question, they give some evasive answer for no reason other than that it builds mysteries.  Insert dramatic music cues and pregnant pauses galore.   Maybe in another 10 episodes they'll ask another direct question to be responded to with a slightly less evasive answer and so on until you've lost the audience and have to slap together some half-assed ending after getting cancelled.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome miniseries.
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 17, 2013, 04:33:16 AM
Yeah then this kind of show isn't for you.  You're the kind of viewer the "monster of the week" or "mystery of the week" format was invented for.  Which is fine.
Story arcs are okay, as long as you give the impression that you're building toward something.  Mysteries are fine, as long as they don't seem forced and built for the sake of building mysteries to retain viewers.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome unbearably long TV series
Post by: MrTorso on September 17, 2013, 03:07:16 PM
Pretty funny snark review of the last episode.

http://www.tv.com/shows/under-the-dome/community/post/under-the-dome-season-1-episode-13-curtains-season-1-finale-review-137936504881/


(http://static.tvtome.com/images/genie_images/news_hub/uploaded/TimSpotnews137939558253/goth.jpg)

Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome unbearably long TV series
Post by: Thrifty Version II on September 17, 2013, 03:36:30 PM
Ha ha.  This was my favorite part:

(http://static.tvtome.com/images/genie_images/news_hub/uploaded/TimSpotnews137939558253/clock.jpg)

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What time is that exactly? 4:00? 5:00? 4:30? 4ish? What is up with that hour hand? The guy who set up the clock had ONE JOB. And it wasn't that hard of a job: Make an actual time on a clock that could exist in the real world. And he failed. Your dirty secret is out, prop guy. You don't know how to tell time. CBS probably paid a million dollars to get this episode made, by the way.
Title: Re: Stephen King's Under the Dome unbearably long TV series
Post by: Bob on September 17, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
My 80 year old mom watched the season ending, then called me after it was over and asked, "how could they end the season like that?"

So, even she felt a bit let down by the ending.