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Title: Marvel TV: 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' - The Thread
Post by: LucasM on August 29, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
[[EDIT: Renamed the thread to fit the format of most other such threads here.]]

Joss Whedon's new Marvel TV show for ABC will be 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'

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You can stop frantically guessing about what the super duo of Joss Whedon and Marvel Studios have up their sleeve for us next: ABC has just ordered the pilot for Joss Whedon's new Marvel TV show, "S.H.I.E.L.D."

"S.H.I.E.L.D." represents the first live-action Marvel TV show pilot to get the green light. According to Deadline Hollywood, Whedon will write "S.H.I.E.L.D." with his brother Jed Whedon and sister-in-law Maurissa Tancharoen, who collaborated with Whedon on "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" and "Dollhouse." Production on the pilot will begin immediately, with the Whedons, Jeffrey Bell, and Jeph Loeb executive producing.

"S.H.I.E.L.D." of course refers to the extra-governmental agency led by Nick Fury that brought together Earth's mightiest heroes in "The Avengers." S.H.I.E.L.D. stands for "Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate" or "Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division," according to Clark Gregg's Agent Coulson, and the organization exists both in the Marvel cinematic universe as well as in its own Marvel comic books series.

Ever since it was announced that Joss Whedon had signed a three-year contract with Marvel Studios to not only write and direct "The Avengers" sequel, but also to develop a live-action TV show set in the Marvel cinematic universe, fans have been buzzing about what that TV show might be. Our personal favorite theories were a show based on "The Runaways" or a Black Widow and Hawkeye series.

There is no word yet on when "S.H.I.E.L.D." will premiere, nor which Marvel Comics characters will be featured in the series.

http://www.examiner.com/article/joss-whedon-s-new-marvel-tv-show-for-abc-will-be-s-h-i-e-l-d?CID=examiner_alerts_article

What'd'ya say: ...'older' episodes with Coulson?  ...current incidents including Agent Hill (Cobie Smulders)?  [Unlikely to get Johansson Black Widow or Renner Hawkeye though... and no way in hell could I see Jackson's Fury be on TV (unless a 'flashback' episode, in which he's just starting with the organization, and played by a different actor... and yes, I realize in the comics he started as Sgt. Fury in WWII, but it is likely 'Movie Marvel' will ignore that bit of history ;)).]

EDIT: only to change Subject title to include "'S.H.I.E.L.D.'"
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: mrbasehart on August 29, 2012, 11:17:46 AM
I don't think it'd be Cobie Smulders, as she's tied to How I Met Your Mother for the next 50 years.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: RoninFox on August 29, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
I do hope we get a few cameos.  Wouldn't be surprised to see Jackson show up for the premiere or a special two parter here and there. 
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: k1 on August 29, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
I do hope we get a few cameos.  Wouldn't be surprised to see Jackson show up for the premiere or a special two parter here and there. 

Or one of those crappy "Guest appearance" via video monitor.

But I'd love to see Coulson on a show.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: RoninFox on August 29, 2012, 11:33:26 AM
I do hope we get a few cameos.  Wouldn't be surprised to see Jackson show up for the premiere or a special two parter here and there. 

Or one of those crappy "Guest appearance" via video monitor.

But I'd love to see Coulson on a show.

More Coulson=loyal viewers.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: k1 on August 29, 2012, 11:45:21 AM
Although Agent Robin Sparkles would be a funny cameo.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: mrbasehart on August 29, 2012, 12:10:04 PM
I think they'd certainly want to keep as much continuity with the movies as possible, so I could see them getting Downey and co to appear every now and again. 
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: a pretty girl is like on August 29, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
Maybe they'll visit the island where they stashed Natalie Portman.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Sideswipe on August 29, 2012, 01:22:11 PM
Hopefully it doesn't turn into CSI: Marvel.  They are probably not going to use any super heros because they will want to save them for big name stars.  I can see this turning boring pretty fast.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on August 29, 2012, 01:42:45 PM
Hopefully it doesn't turn into CSI: Marvel.  They are probably not going to use any super heros because they will want to save them for big name stars.  I can see this turning boring pretty fast.
I could see them using B and C list superheroes and villains. Ones that wouldn't show up in the movies.

Just please, cast Bruce Campbell as a retired superhero or something!
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Bob on August 29, 2012, 01:43:37 PM
I cannot wait to see this guy in it...........

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Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Sideswipe on August 29, 2012, 01:57:59 PM
You want to see the Thing without the rest of the Fantastic 4?
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Bob on August 29, 2012, 02:09:12 PM
You want to see the Thing without the rest of the Fantastic 4?

Yes, so does everyone.

And thank you for thinking what I was thinking too.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on August 29, 2012, 07:19:01 PM
More news on it already.   :)  We can stop speculating on at least a couple things, though this really doesn't answer a whole lotta' questions.

Joss Whedon explains the premise of S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series

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After yesterday's big announcement that Marvel's new live-action TV series with Joss Whedon and ABC would be "S.H.I.E.L.D." Whedon has explained a few details of the show's premise.

Variety has reported that during a Q&A Whedon moderated on Tuesday for Mike Birbiglia and Ira Glass's new movie "Sleepwalk with Me", Whedon described how "S.H.I.E.L.D." would function in the Marvel cinematic universe. Variety reports:

     "The storyline for the proposed series will be largely 'autonomous' from the Avengers sequel feature. The series will revolve around the activities of the SHIELD org governing body for the superheroes featured in 'The Avengers.'"

Variety writer Cynthia Littleton tweeted yesterday that "altho Joss reserves right to pepper in bits here and there. His bro Jed and Maurissa T. will be showrunners, he'll just show up every now and then 'and take credit for everything,' Joss assures."

Whedon will write "S.H.I.E.L.D." with his brother Jed Whedon and sister-in-law Maurissa Tancharoen, who collaborated with Whedon on "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" and "Dollhouse." Production on the pilot will begin immediately, with the Whedons, Jeffrey Bell, and Jeph Loeb executive producing.

In addition to developing "S.H.I.E.L.D." for ABC, Whedon is writing and directing the sequel to "The Avengers" with Marvel Studios.
http://www.examiner.com/article/joss-whedon-explains-the-story-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-tv-series?CID=examiner_alerts_article (http://www.examiner.com/article/joss-whedon-explains-the-story-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-tv-series?CID=examiner_alerts_article)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on August 29, 2012, 07:32:40 PM
I don't think it'd be Cobie Smulders, as she's tied to How I Met Your Mother for the next 50 years.

Yeah, I know she's on HIMYM, but I thought she would have summers off [i.e. how she did The Avengers].  Whedon usually works a year in advance: he could film her parts of a story during 'off-season time', then insert it when the season is in production.  Plus it is always possible for actors to get breaks from series (depending on those running them) for a few weeks, where she could have guest shots.

I just think a SHIELD show without Fury, Coulson, or Agent Hill would seem a bit too 'off'.  Those having seen The Avengers film know what's up with Coulson [if anyone mentions it: spoiler it, because there are people who haven't seen it yet].  And Sam Jackson is highly unlikely to be remotely regular on a TV series (if he shows up at all except in possible flashback to 'just starting' [i.e. played by another actor]).


More Coulson=loyal viewers.

Yeah... and Whedon does LOTS of flashback stuff in his series, so not out of the question.  ;D


Hopefully it doesn't turn into CSI: Marvel.  They are probably not going to use any super heros because they will want to save them for big name stars.  I can see this turning boring pretty fast.

[To the highlighted part:]  Have you never seen a Joss Whedon TV show?  ???  'Boring' is not in his repertoire.


I could see them using B and C list superheroes and villains. Ones that wouldn't show up in the movies.

Just please, cast Bruce Campbell as a retired superhero or something!

Oooh!  Bruce Campbell as an aging original Human Torch (the synthetic one in the tube at the NY World's Fair seen briefly in Cap Am)!   ;D  That'd be great.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 29, 2012, 08:53:54 PM
Other characters who need to be in this show:

Rick Jones:  No appearance in Hulk movies for the Hulk's bestest pal?  For shame.
Amadeus Cho: the seventh smartest man in the world!
Jennifer Walters: pre-She-Hulk.  Then, mid-way through the season, make her She Hulk.  Ruffalo shall guest.
Matt Murdock: Hey, Marvel's about to get Daredevil's rights back.  Why not defy expectations and have him appear here first before he gets a movie or TV show.
Damage Control: If they can't get their own show, they can still be a presence and also show that the Marvel universe is excepting it's super-heroes as more than a string of isolated incidents.
Jimmy Woo: Then we can have the Agents of Atlas appear later on.
Willie Lumpkin: Because Stan Lee needs to cameo.
And most importantly:
The Great Lake Avengers: Because, duh!

As for big season-long villains:
Baron Strucker: I don't think he's big enough to be a Cap leading villain.  But he'd make for a great SHIELD villain.
Scorpio: An actual Nick Fury villain!  And Fury's brother.  Maybe they should reference Extras and cast Laurence Fishburne.
SWORD: Yes, techinically SWORD are good guys, but SHIELD might not know that at first and it's a pretty common Marvel cliche to have two good guys meet and fight each other before fighting the real villain.  Also, Joss Whedon created SWORD.
Terminus: Technically the poor man's Galactus, but it would be a pretty big deal for the series.
Zodiac: Cause let's face it, they are never going to appear in the movies.

Writers who need to do episodes on this show:
Peter David (has TV experience and the man mixes comedy and drama well)
Ben Edlund (do I need to explain why?)
Jane Espenson (Again, do I?)
Jonathon Hickman (Great sci-fi writer and did a SHIELD series a few years back... about the organizations true origins)
Grant Morrison (Joss is a fan of Grant and Grant does have experience writing a well recieved play.  I'd like to see his mind-bending stuff on TV.  A long shot, but still)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on August 29, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
Can't 'Like' that post enough, Johnny Unusual!  ;D


Only thing I can think to add is to the writers:
J. Michael Straczynski - the guy who made Spider-Man not only readable, but exceptional there for a while; who treated the FF as they SHOULD be treated: straightforward S-F; and who did some nice writing on Thor there for a while and who (of course) not only provided ideas for the Thor film, but did a great little cameo (the first to discover Thor's hammer on Earth).  His TV work should be known to most: as creator of Babylon 5 and writer of about 95% of its episodes (Peter David writing a memorable one).
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ShadowDog on August 29, 2012, 10:05:14 PM
His Midnight Nation was also an excellent comic book miniseries.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on August 29, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
His Midnight Nation was also an excellent comic book miniseries.

It sure was.  Most of his comic work has been worth reading.  Of his independent stuff, I most liked Rising Stars.

Since he has both 'Marvel comic chops' and 'TV-script-writing chops' I thought he might be a good fit for the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show... but with him and Whedon... maybe it'd be like very early Roxy Music with Brian Eno and Brian Ferry: two people who are SO creative that they simply can't 'fit' in the limited space available.  ;)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Pak-Man on August 30, 2012, 04:54:18 AM
He'd be too expensive to make it into a TV show, but my favorite Marvel B-Lister has always been Slapstick. :^)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 30, 2012, 06:03:05 AM
"Well, we just spent the rest of our season's budget on one character."

"Who?"

"Slapstick."

"....Who?"

Which reminds me: I think it would be cool if Dan Slott's Initiative made an appearance.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on August 30, 2012, 06:05:47 AM
Damn, just realised he is DC. But I really wanted to see SNOWFLAME at some point on this show.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: k1 on August 30, 2012, 06:23:18 AM
Impossible Man!
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 30, 2012, 06:28:31 AM
That's Impossible, Man!
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: a pretty girl is like on August 30, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
Impossible Man!

This is one of my favorite individual comics of all time: 

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: k1 on August 30, 2012, 04:50:31 PM
I just read that one on Monday in between appointments at work!  I scored the Impossible Man trade paperback in the bargain bin at New England Comics for dirt cheap.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on August 30, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
I just read that one on Monday in between appointments at work!  I scored the Impossible Man trade paperback in the bargain bin at New England Comics for dirt cheap.
That's not true. That's impossible!
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Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on October 01, 2012, 10:17:52 PM
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Meet the characters of Marvel and Joss Whedon's 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' TV show

Today the first concrete details about Joss Whedon and Marvel's new ABC TV show were revealed. TV Line reports that they have character profiles for the main characters of "S.H.I.E.L.D." (a spin-off of "The Avengers").

The character profiles are below, and they shine a light on what Whedonites and Marvel fans alike can expect from "S.H.I.E.L.D."

    SKYE: This late-20s woman sounds like a dream: fun, smart, caring and confident – with an ability to get the upper hand by using her wit and charm.
    AGENT GRANT WARD: Quite the physical specimen and “cool under fire,” he sometimes botches interpersonal relations. He’s a quiet one with a bit of a temper, but he’s the kind of guy that grows on you.
    AGENT ALTHEA RICE: Also known as “The Calvary,” this hard-core soldier has crazy skills when it comes to weapons and being a pilot. But her experiences have left her very quiet and a little damaged.
    AGENT LEO FITZ and AGENT JEMMA SIMMONS: These two came through training together and still choose to spend most of their time in each other’s company. Their sibling-like relationship is reinforced by their shared nerd tendencies – she deals with biology and chemistry, he’s a whiz at the technical side of weaponry.

The crew of Serenity they are not, but they are all-new, original characters never seen before in any of the movies of the Marvel cinematic universe.

After the wild success of "The Avengers", Joss Whedon signed an exclusive deal with Marvel to write and direct the sequel to the superhero blockbuster, as well as develop a spin-off TV show. "S.H.I.E.L.D." is that show, which he will produce partners in crime Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen. According to Whedon, "S.H.I.E.L.D." will operate autonomously from "The Avengers" and the Marvel cinematic universe.

http://www.examiner.com/article/meet-the-characters-of-marvel-and-joss-whedon-s-s-h-i-e-l-d-tv-show?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ScottotD on October 01, 2012, 10:28:17 PM
Oh cool, so 'Agents of SHIELD' is actually about agents of SHIELD.  I like that, makes the superheros more special if they're not in every ep.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: mrbasehart on October 02, 2012, 01:04:52 AM
Oh cool, so 'Agents of SHIELD' is actually about agents of SHIELD.  I like that, makes the superheros more special if they're not in every ep.

I hope they don't get too far away from the superhero universe though.  That's what will make SHIELD unique.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ScottotD on October 02, 2012, 01:21:01 AM
Oh cool, so 'Agents of SHIELD' is actually about agents of SHIELD.  I like that, makes the superheros more special if they're not in every ep.

I hope they don't get too far away from the superhero universe though.  That's what will make SHIELD unique.

I'm imagining a hybrid of Torchwood and Supernatural myself
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ShadowDog on October 02, 2012, 05:17:36 AM
I predict at least one of the main actresses is super skinny and cute as Hell. Joss has a type.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 02, 2012, 05:44:57 AM
I predict at least one of the main actresses is super skinny and cute as Hell. Joss has a type.

Yeah, young attractive people.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ScottotD on October 02, 2012, 05:56:14 AM
I predict at least one of the main actresses is super skinny and cute as Hell. Joss has a type.

Yeah, young attractive people.

I guess it depends what you mean by young, I think his casting is always age appropriate
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ShadowDog on October 02, 2012, 06:43:53 PM
Its not age, its weight. He likes skeleton assed chicks.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Tripe on October 02, 2012, 06:45:14 PM
He also likes, really likes, feet, though I can't find the article that catalogues examples of that.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: goflyblind on October 13, 2012, 03:36:32 PM
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"We all love Clark Gregg, there's no doubt about that," Whedon said. "From before we made 'The Avengers,' we discussed whether there was a way for him to be a part of the Marvel Universe, perhaps a part of a TV show even after his death. … The fact of the matter is, as much as we love him, now that I'm really running Marvel, I like to keep a type of artistic integrity, which means we don't stretch the bounds of reality."

"There was never going to be a 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' show without Agent Phil Coulson!" said Feige, who appeared behind Whedon, wearing a COULSON LIVES shirt.

"He's headlining the S.H.I.E.L.D. show and always was." said Whedon.
http://io9.com/5951540/rejoice-agent-coulson-will-be-in-the-new-shield-tv-series

:highfive:
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Tripe on October 13, 2012, 03:43:53 PM
 :highfive: indeed. :)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Bob on October 13, 2012, 05:41:54 PM
And this is why we love Joss.

This is so cool.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on October 13, 2012, 07:12:22 PM
Yeah!  ;D  And that - very happily - explains how a show about the agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. will get 'directions' without either Fury or Hill at the helm.  :)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Rainbow Dash on October 13, 2012, 09:35:51 PM
Be a perfect way to introduce Squirrel Girl for the Thanos story they have coming in the films.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on October 13, 2012, 09:47:20 PM
Be a perfect way to introduce Squirrel Girl for the Thanos story they have coming in the films.

That she is Coulson's cello-playing girlfriend? ;) ;D
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Tripe on October 14, 2012, 05:48:33 AM
Kinda want the cellist to be played by Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: goflyblind on October 14, 2012, 05:55:17 AM
what does a fake blind/pregnant lawyer have to do with sheild? ???
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 15, 2012, 09:12:36 PM
Be a perfect way to introduce Squirrel Girl for the Thanos story they have coming in the films.

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Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on October 15, 2012, 09:30:29 PM
Be a perfect way to introduce Squirrel Girl for the Thanos story they have coming in the films.

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The hell?! Did she rape him to death or something? Why is he in that position, with smoke coming from his ass?!
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ShadowDog on October 16, 2012, 05:27:00 AM
I woke in that position with smoke coming out of my ass after paying ten bucks to see "Skyline."
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: RoninFox on October 16, 2012, 07:11:02 AM
Be a perfect way to introduce Squirrel Girl for the Thanos story they have coming in the films.

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The hell?! Did she rape him to death or something? Why is he in that position, with smoke coming from his ass?!

Never piss off Tippy-Toe.  He took down Richard Gere the same way once.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: a pretty girl is like on October 16, 2012, 08:21:18 AM
I hate Squirrel Girl as much as I hate Deadpool. And I hate Deadpool a lot. 
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 26, 2012, 06:13:43 AM
She's the Asian one in our group!

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From the AV Club:
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Out to defy our expectations—or simply forced into circumstance because our suggestions keep getting cast on other shows—Joss Whedon seems to be looking beyond the edges of the Whedonverse to cast his S.H.I.E.L.D. pilot. He's given the show's first original role, that of Agent Melinda May, to Ming-Na Wen, known in some circles as the voice of Disney's Mulan and for her turns on ER and in The Joy Luck Club, and in some outside circles shouting at that confused inner circle that, no, she's Chun-Li in Street Fighter. She'll join the returning Clark Gregg and his resurrected/life model decoy of Agent Coulson as a pilot who's "soulful and slightly damaged by her combat experiences"—a character description that was assigned in that earlier leaked casting call to "Agent Althea Rice" (suggesting there may have been a name change here to avoid it sounding too much like, you know, "Agent Asian Person"). Anyway, all assumptions that Whedon would be returning to his usual acting stable to populate this series have hereby been challenged, at least until Amy Acker shows up.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Tripe on October 26, 2012, 10:53:19 AM
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Anyway, all assumptions that Whedon would be returning to his usual acting stable to populate this series have hereby been challenged, at least until Amy Acker shows up.
Odd, it's like I heard a high-pitched whistle or something.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 26, 2012, 01:29:23 PM
Question: which of the Whedon stable would be best to play Rick Jones?  Also, if you could go to the Whedon stable, which person would you shoe?
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: RoninFox on October 26, 2012, 04:07:37 PM
Question: which of the Whedon stable would be best to play Rick Jones?  Also, if you could go to the Whedon stable, which person would you shoe?

No one gets shoed at the Whedon stable.

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Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: mrbasehart on October 26, 2012, 05:30:18 PM
After watching the movie, I'd really like to see Cobie Smulders on it.  How I Met Your Mother is running on fumes at this point, and looks like its going to end this season.  She's awesome and believably tough. 

What's Adam Baldwin up to? He could be a SHIELD agent!
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: RoninFox on October 26, 2012, 05:40:46 PM
After watching the movie, I'd really like to see Cobie Smulders on it.  How I Met Your Mother is running on fumes at this point, and looks like its going to end this season.  She's awesome and believably tough. 

What's Adam Baldwin up to? He could be a SHIELD agent!

Cobie was perfectly cast for that role, having her on the show would be a great bonus.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on October 26, 2012, 06:34:57 PM
It would be interesting if one of the end credit scenes was a teaser for the show, rather than the next movie.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on October 26, 2012, 06:54:19 PM
It would be interesting if one of the end credit scenes was a teaser for the show, rather than the next movie.

Or the opening shot in the show is of low-ranking S.H.I.E.L.D. agents cleaning up the mess left at the schawarma restaurant. ;D
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on October 26, 2012, 06:59:58 PM
It would be interesting if one of the end credit scenes was a teaser for the show, rather than the next movie.

Or the opening shot in the show is of low-ranking S.H.I.E.L.D. agents cleaning up the mess left at the schawarma restaurant. ;D
Sorry Banner hulked out and broke your slushie machine. Here's money to replace it. *sigh* No, Captain America will not be in your TV ad. No, we can't give you Black Widow's phone number, sir.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ScottotD on October 27, 2012, 02:06:09 AM
It would be interesting if one of the end credit scenes was a teaser for the show, rather than the next movie.

Or the opening shot in the show is of low-ranking S.H.I.E.L.D. agents cleaning up the mess left at the schawarma restaurant. ;D

I really hope the pilot (since pilots have bigger budgets traditionally) it really opens with them CSI-ing in the aftermath of a superhero battle, it would be a fun perspective to establish them.


Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: RoninFox on October 27, 2012, 09:56:13 AM
It would be interesting if one of the end credit scenes was a teaser for the show, rather than the next movie.

Or the opening shot in the show is of low-ranking S.H.I.E.L.D. agents cleaning up the mess left at the schawarma restaurant. ;D

I really hope the pilot (since pilots have bigger budgets traditionally) it really opens with them CSI-ing in the aftermath of a superhero battle, it would be a fun perspective to establish them.


We already got a peek of something like that with the short film on the Avengers disc. If the series is similar to that I think I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on October 27, 2012, 11:18:23 AM
Ming-Na Wen joins cast of Marvel's 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' TV series (http://www.examiner.com/article/ming-na-wen-joins-cast-of-marvel-s-s-h-i-e-l-d-tv-series?CID=examiner_alerts_article)

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In more exciting Marvel news, Ming-Na Wen has been cast in "S.H.I.E.L.D.", the TV spin-off of "The Avengers" created by Joss Whedon for ABC. Ming-Na has been cast as Agent Melinda May alongside leading man and fan favorite Clark Gregg as Agent Phil Coulson.

Deadline reports that Ming-Na Wen is the second official cast member to be announced for "S.H.I.E.L.D." Her character was originally named Althea Rice in the pilot's casting breakdown. Melinda May is described as a "hard-core soldier [who] has crazy skills when it comes to weapons and being a pilot. But her experiences have left her very quiet and a little damaged."

You'll recognize Ming-Na Wen from her work on "ER", "Eureka", and "Stargate Universe."

Shortly after the overwhelming success of "The Avengers" it was announced that Marvel had hired Whedon on to develop a TV series set in the Marvel cinematic universe. Thus "S.H.I.E.L.D." was born, and Whedon will be writing and directing the pilot with his "Dollhouse" and "Dr. Horrible" cohorts (and brother and sister-in-law) Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen.

According to Whedon, "S.H.I.E.L.D." will function autonomously from "The Avengers" and focus on the international covert operation behind the superheroes. There are no details yet on when the show will premiere.

I still can't comprehend why they changed the character's name ::)... and if they did, why they didn't just change it to "Althea Chop Suey".
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on October 27, 2012, 11:29:36 AM
It would be interesting if one of the end credit scenes was a teaser for the show, rather than the next movie.

Or the opening shot in the show is of low-ranking S.H.I.E.L.D. agents cleaning up the mess left at the schawarma restaurant. ;D

I really hope the pilot (since pilots have bigger budgets traditionally) it really opens with them CSI-ing in the aftermath of a superhero battle, it would be a fun perspective to establish them.


We already got a peek of something like that with the short film on the Avengers disc. If the series is similar to that I think I'd be happy.
Was that the one with the bank robber couple with the alien gun? Who was that guy supposed to be? I didn't recognize his name.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 29, 2012, 12:18:15 PM
Ming-Na Wen joins cast of Marvel's 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' TV series (http://www.examiner.com/article/ming-na-wen-joins-cast-of-marvel-s-s-h-i-e-l-d-tv-series?CID=examiner_alerts_article)


Not to get all "FIRST!!!!11!!1" on ya, but I did report that the day before.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on October 29, 2012, 01:22:56 PM
Ming-Na Wen joins cast of Marvel's 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' TV series (http://www.examiner.com/article/ming-na-wen-joins-cast-of-marvel-s-s-h-i-e-l-d-tv-series?CID=examiner_alerts_article)

Not to get all "FIRST!!!!11!!1" on ya, but I did report that the day before.

Another sign of the condition I'm in: I read what you posted, noted the picture, and completely forgot it by just a few hours later. :(
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on October 31, 2012, 06:03:55 PM
Since I have no intention of stopping in the politics thread, I thought I'd post this here.  It is a tongue in cheek endorsement of Romney by Joss Whedon and is quite amusing.
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/6TiXUF9xbTo
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on November 18, 2012, 10:07:10 AM
Joss Whedon's 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' pilot adds two new agents to the cast (http://www.examiner.com/article/joss-whedon-s-s-h-i-e-l-d-pilot-adds-two-new-agents-to-the-cast?CID=examiner_alerts_article)

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"The Avengers" TV spin-off "S.H.I.E.L.D." has gotten two new cast members with Elizabeth Henstridge and Iain De Caestecker. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Henstridge and De Caestecker will play Agent Gemma Simmons and Agent Leo Fitz, respectively, in Joss Whedon's new TV show for Marvel and ABC.

Henstridge and De Caestecker join Clark Gregg as Agent Phil Coulson and Ming-Na Wen as Agent Melinda May.

According to an early casting call, Agents Fitz and Simmons were described as "like a brother and sister who always bicker and annoy one another. They came up together and are masters in their fields: Fitz is good with weapons and gadgets while Simmons is into science. And during the show, Agent Simmons and Agent Fitz will apparently be given the nickname 'Fitz-Simmons.'"

"S.H.I.E.L.D." will chronicle the day-to-day activities of the Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistic Directorate, which was introduced to the Marvel cinematic universe through "Iron Man" and "Thor," and then played a key role in "The Avengers." The TV series will be helmed by Joss Whedon and his "Dr. Horrible" and "Dollhouse" cohorts Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on January 12, 2013, 09:59:15 PM
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'S.H.I.E.L.D.' will be a sequel to 'The Avengers,' not a prequel (Photos)

[[SPOILER IS FOR PIVOTAL EVENT IN 'THE AVENGERS'.  -LucasM]]

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Funny thing was, I always thought it was going to be taking place after The Avengers; never before (as the article states "most fans" did).  I proposed something in The Avengers thread (in a spoiler) (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=22688.msg722689#msg722689) that I have since had some doubts about [having seen The Avengers enough times now to have noticed something I missed in the film: "red" instead of "black" as I'd thought it was... (ambiguous enough to not spoil, I hope); though that color difference doesn't change the possibility the underlying idea may still be possible].
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on January 13, 2013, 01:20:42 PM
In "barely even news" news, the show will "very likely" get picked up, according to ABC President Paul Lee.  I kind of just assumed when they announced "Joss Whedon works on Marvel show after Joss Whedon works on the Avengers and makes all the money."
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ShadowDog on January 20, 2013, 12:44:19 PM
Can you imagine how bad that pilot episode would have to be for this not to get picked up?  Ed Wood's zombie could Direct this shit and it'll get picked up, yo.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on January 20, 2013, 01:11:39 PM
Can you imagine how bad that pilot episode would have to be for this not to get picked up?  Ed Wood's zombie could Direct this shit and it'll get picked up, yo.
Unless they're concerned about it tarnashing the movies. Wouldn't want anything lessening the anticipation for the upcoming movies, now would we?
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on January 20, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
Can you imagine how bad that pilot episode would have to be for this not to get picked up?  Ed Wood's zombie could Direct this shit and it'll get picked up, yo.
Unless they're concerned about it tarnashing the movies. Wouldn't want anything lessening the anticipation for the upcoming movies, now would we?

"JESUS JOSS!?  WHY DOES THE HULK KEEP RAPING EVERYONE?!"

"Is that too far out of our budget range?"
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: ScottotD on January 20, 2013, 10:42:30 PM
Can you imagine how bad that pilot episode would have to be for this not to get picked up?  Ed Wood's zombie could Direct this shit and it'll get picked up, yo.

Well it's not like Joss has had issues with networks not understanding or appreciating his work historically.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: LucasM on January 27, 2013, 06:47:47 PM
Cobie Smulders might appear in 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' as Agent Maria Hill

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In an interview with I Am Rogue, "The Avengers" actress Cobie Smulders revealed that there's a chance she'll be reprising her role as Agent Maria Hill in the "S.H.I.E.L.D." TV series.

According to IAR, when asked if she would be expected to appear on "S.H.I.E.L.D." in some capacity, Smulders responded, "The commitments to ['How I Met Your Mother'] don’t affect it. And I can’t really say but there are definite talks about it."

"S.H.I.E.L.D." will star Smulders's "The Avengers" co-star Clark Gregg as the eponymous Agent Phil Coulson. The show is being developed by "The Avengers" writer and director Joss Whedon, along with his frequent collaborators Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen.

Whether or not she shows up on the TV show, Smulders is firmly ensconced in the Marvel cinematic universe now as Agent Maria Hill, and she's set to appear in "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" in 2014. Principal photography on the "Captain America" sequel begins this March. As to her continuing role in the Marvel cinematic universe, Smulders told IAR, "Oh yeah! I’m very excited. I will do Maria Hill until they fire me and hire someone else to do it."
Cobie Smulders might appear in 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' as Agent Maria Hill (http://www.examiner.com/article/cobie-smulders-might-appear-s-h-i-e-l-d-as-agent-maria-hill?CID=examiner_alerts_article)

Larger source article:
IAR EXCLUSIVE: Cobie Smulders Talks 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier and 'S.H.I.E.L.D. TV Series (http://www.iamrogue.com/news/movie-news/item/8119-iar-exclusive-cobie-smulders-talks-captain-america-the-winter-soldier-and-shield-tv-series.html)
In this article, it also said...
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At the moment, however, Whedon is directing the pilot episode of a S.H.I.E.L.D. television series for ABC.
So he's already hard at work with the actual filming already.  Maybe a Summer season start for it?  After the writer's strike disrupted so much, there was some talk of redistributing season starts through the year (not that much has occurred with that plan on broadcast stations).

It'd be nice to have the Agent Coulson/Agent Hill combo at the core of the series.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Darth Geek on January 27, 2013, 07:14:44 PM
Cobie Smulders wasn't all that great in her bits in the theatrical cut, and she's downright aweful in the deleted scenes. I would be perfectly okay with her being recast, or a different character filling in her role.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: RoninFox on January 27, 2013, 09:49:17 PM
Cobie Smulders wasn't all that great in her bits in the theatrical cut, and she's downright aweful in the deleted scenes. I would be perfectly okay with her being recast, or a different character filling in her role.

Really?  I agree the deleted scenes weren't very good, but I blamed that on the scenes and not her.  I thought she did fine as an agent.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: Johnny Unusual on January 28, 2013, 06:54:58 AM
Well, it's good that she gets more screen time.  I'm sure she'll get treated well, especially since she wasn't always treated well by some writers, who treated her as lacking in leadership or quasi-villainous, largely due to her antagontistic role in Civil War (which had a lot of inconsistent character issues).

Larger source article:
IAR EXCLUSIVE: Cobie Smulders Talks 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier and 'S.H.I.E.L.D. TV Series (http://www.iamrogue.com/news/movie-news/item/8119-iar-exclusive-cobie-smulders-talks-captain-america-the-winter-soldier-and-shield-tv-series.html)
In this article, it also said...
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At the moment, however, Whedon is directing the pilot episode of a S.H.I.E.L.D. television series for ABC.
So he's already hard at work with the actual filming already.  Maybe a Summer season start for it?  After the writer's strike disrupted so much, there was some talk of redistributing season starts through the year (not that much has occurred with that plan on broadcast stations).

I'm fairly sure that it's going to be coming out in Fall.  It would make sense to have the pilot done way ahead of time first in order to look at it an fix any potential problems in post-production and see how the finished product will affect the future episodes.  And it seems like a big production, so it would make sense to have a lot of time between the filming and the premiere.  Still, there is an increase in Summer shows as of recently for networks to compete with cable shows, but a lot of those are going to be Summer-exclusive.  Though it would be interesting to have a Summer blockbuster TV series, but I wouldn't hold my breath for a Summer release.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel
Post by: RoninFox on January 28, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
It would be interesting to see, when this show airs, how it syncs up with not only the existing Marvel films but films releasing around it.  If it is in the summer, doesn't that put it right in the middle of a lot of movies?  On one hand that could be good marketing, on the other hand it might be a mess if the events are supposed to be kept in any semblance of order.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 08, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
It has a new title: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and a new cast member J August Richards (AKA Gunn from Angel).

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The project long referred to as "ABC’s Joss Whedon-produced S.H.I.E.L.D. pilot" now has the new, equally unwieldy name of Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.—a name reminding us that the show may concern a monolithic, top-secret organization concerned with investigating otherworldly threats, but really it’s about the people. (And the brand recognition.) Released alongside the official title is an official synopsis, which suggests that Clark Gregg’s Agent Coulson will be rewarded for dying by taking on some new responsibilities:

Agent Phil Coulson (Clark Gregg) returns to the worldwide law enforcement organization S.H.I.E.L.D. He puts together a small, highly trained, team of Agents to tackle the cases that haven’t been classified yet, the new, the strange and the unknown. That team consists of straight arrow Agent Grant Ward (Brett Dalton), an expert in combat and espionage; pilot and martial artist Agent Melinda May (Ming-Na Wen); and brilliant if socially awkward scientists Agent Leo Fitz (Iain De Caestecker) and Agent Jemma Simmons (Elizabeth Henstridge). They’ll be joined by civilian new recruit and computer hacker Skye (Chloe Bennet).

And while casting has so far stayed out of the traditional Whedonverse (though we’d still bet on some inevitable Amy Acker appearance mid-season), today comes word from TV Line that Whedon couldn’t resist adding Angel alum J. August Richards. The actor, who played the streetwise-turned-telepathic-panther-wise Gunn, has joined S.H.I.EL.D. in a “super top-secret role” that already has everyone in the comments naming all the black characters they can think of in the Marvel universe, so we’ll let you get to that now.

Please be Luke Cage, please be Luke Cage, please be Luke Cage.  Or Black Goliath.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/60/Blackgoliath_bill.jpg/220px-Blackgoliath_bill.jpg)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Bob on April 08, 2013, 06:17:11 PM
Hopefully ABC does not mess this up doing network crap to it.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 11, 2013, 02:21:30 AM
They do have a history of awful incidental music that pervades all of their series.  It's like it's a house style.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Henry88 on May 12, 2013, 07:08:49 PM
Deadline:
ABC Picks Up Marvel/Joss Whedon’s ‘S.H.I.E.L.D.’ To Series (http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/abc-picks-up-marveljoss-whedens-s-h-i-e-l-d-to-series/)

THR:
It's Official: Joss Whedon's 'Marvels Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' Ordered to Series at ABC (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/official-joss-whedons-marvels-agents-520903)
A first-look at the highly anticipated series will air Sunday at 8 p.m. on ABC.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/176815-marvels-agents-of-shield-teases-first-footage

There's also some weird teaser footage that is just stock footage of Abomination from the Incredible Hulk... for some reason.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Henry88 on May 12, 2013, 08:22:10 PM

Here is the trailer.
http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/283792/%5BTV%5D-The-Full-Teaser-for-Marvel//s-Agents-of-S.H.I.E.L.D.-Is-Here
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 13, 2013, 01:05:43 AM
Here's an embed:

http://www.youtube.com/v/mDKQ3L6FiRU

HOLY FUCK J AUGUST RICHARDS SEEMS TO BE PLAYING LUKE CAGE IN THE TRAILER YES YES YES!

Here's hoping we see She-Hulk down the line!

Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: ScottotD on May 13, 2013, 05:39:10 AM
Holy Fuck?  I think you mean...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr8hka7oqg1qcwp6eo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 13, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
Wow, this could be the first new TV show I'll watch in a long time....
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 14, 2013, 03:18:33 PM
Here's the full trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/v/PerIAuv27SQ
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: mrbasehart on May 14, 2013, 03:24:47 PM
It looks neat!
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Bob on May 14, 2013, 03:44:24 PM
It looks really great, and the network better not frak with it.......but I think they wont.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: mrbasehart on May 14, 2013, 03:48:54 PM
I'm hoping Whedon can stay involved personally throughout the show's run, and not get sidelined by the Avengers sequel.  He did that with Firefly, and Buffy and Angel's quality took a bit of a nosedive without him involved.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 14, 2013, 05:24:08 PM
I think Angel did alright, but yeah, Buffy really suffered for it.  Season 6 was a depressing slog, but season 7 was a mess with a lot of cool ideas that didn't really feel like they got proper follow through.  It promised to be a return to the more fun stories, but it fell back into old habits.  Shame he couldn't wait one more year.

Anyhoo, still excited.  The previews don't seem to have the strength of Whedon's humour, but I think it's just that out of context it doesn't work as well.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 14, 2013, 07:37:27 PM
I think Angel did alright, but yeah, Buffy really suffered for it.  Season 6 was a depressing slog,

I quit watching Buffy early in season 6 because of that, only finished up the series when it started streaming on Netflix.

Not sure how I'll watch this one, I am so spoiled by streaming now I find it hard to watch a show on TV with all the commercials.  If it shows up on Amazon I might buy the season pass, might be worth it to pay $3/ep. just to avoid the commercials...
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: LucasM on May 14, 2013, 08:38:34 PM
I think Angel did alright, but yeah, Buffy really suffered for it.  Season 6 was a depressing slog,

I quit watching Buffy early in season 6 because of that, only finished up the series when it started streaming on Netflix.

Not sure how I'll watch this one, I am so spoiled by streaming now I find it hard to watch a show on TV with all the commercials.  If it shows up on Amazon I might buy the season pass, might be worth it to pay $3/ep. just to avoid the commercials...

Funny... that "depressing slog" was a major thing that helped me process and come to terms with my losses from the third head injury (season 5's 'Joyce'/Buffy episode helped tremendously as well).
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 14, 2013, 08:47:43 PM
Don't get me wrong: there were some great episodes and a great last few episodes, but overall it just didn't feel fun like it used to.  And there were some real weak episodes (the 2 parter where Willow first starts getting addicted to magic and the Doublemeat Palace one, though I think there are some good ideas in that one).  I'm not saying all genre fiction needs to be fun, and I know it tries to deal with moving on, but an entire season of Buffy being in a funk is kind of annoying (which, to be fair, is also Joss' fault , since the was the thrust of the season).

That said, I am glad it spoke to you so strongly. I wouldn't deny anyone enjoying something just because I didn't.  And yeah, the Body was one of the best (and bleakest) episodes on any TV series.  In fact, Joss was surprised that so many people got hope out of such a dark episode, but I think the fact that it contains no platitudes and it has a lot of stuff that would relate to people going through loss.  No comfort, but a lot of empathy.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: LucasM on May 14, 2013, 11:07:20 PM
Nothing whatsoever to do with S.H.I.E.L.D., all about Buffy, but related to last couple posts, so spoilered so as not to derail thread.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 14, 2013, 11:25:28 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Hey, I'm glad it wasn't easy, but it made it very difficult to become invested in her.  It also hurt that the show seemed to have a VERY hard time knowing what to do with Dawn and while it makes sense that she would be a problem child, between her bad behaviour, Buffy's ennui and Willow's increasing badness (and another thing that doesn't make sense with her magic drunkenness: isn't her power supposed to represent her empowerment as a person and coming into her own?  Mixing metaphors is a bad idea, especially ones in very stark contrast), I found watching it feel like a chore.  There were some good episodes, but there was so much that left a bad taste in my mouth.

Anyhoo, have they announced if any of the other of Whedon's usual staple of writers are working on it?  I know the other 2 writers of Dr. Horrible are in it, but I'm hoping for Jane Espenson and Ben Edlund (creator of the Tick and current head writer of Supernatural, which I heard really came around largely because of him.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Pak-Man on May 15, 2013, 02:56:10 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/executive-producer-jeffrey-bell-talk-agents-of-shield-and-reveals-luke-cage-is-not-the-mystery-character

So that wasn't Luke Cage. MAYBE someone who begins with an M...
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: goflyblind on May 15, 2013, 03:01:25 PM
magneto? ???
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Sideswipe on May 16, 2013, 08:39:30 PM
Cerebro?
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 18, 2013, 10:12:44 PM
Mook Cage.  They really wanted Spike Lee for the role.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on September 24, 2013, 09:03:44 PM
So, did anyone watch it.  Any good?
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: Pak-Man on September 24, 2013, 10:21:57 PM
I enjoyed it. It had the kind of snappy banter I expect from a Whedon show, a good Marvel-y vibe, and a compelling cast of characters. It's got lots of potential.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's New Show for Marvel: 'S.H.I.E.L.D.'
Post by: LucasM on September 25, 2013, 01:28:16 AM
I second that: quite enjoyable.  While intense at times, it puts the fun back in action TV.

They did, however, give what I thought was a bit too much away with Agent Coulson (who it should be no surprise to anyone is back, given that he's been in virtually every ad or picture for the series, which are quite hard to avoid, even for a die-hard 'spoiler-avoider' such as myself).  As far as his return - by the way, LOVED the way it was handled for the episode! ;D - [spoiler is for what was said, as well as my theory on what likely is behind what was said]...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Despite that, I am anxious to see more.  Honestly, this is the first show in a LONG time where I could see myself rewatching episodes within 24 hours of their first airing.  [Last time I remember doing that was with Buffy, season 5.]
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's Show for Marvel: 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' - The Thread
Post by: ScottotD on September 25, 2013, 01:38:00 AM
I haven't seen the ep but
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Title: Re: Joss Whedon's Show for Marvel: 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' - The Thread
Post by: Bob on September 25, 2013, 02:39:40 AM
It appears that networks were realizing that AMC, TNT, etc were getting all the shows that had the good writers and actors and are stepping up their games.  Some of America is not brain dead and we won't watch idiotic "reality" shows and crappy musical talent shows.

I was pleased.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's Show for Marvel: 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' - The Thread
Post by: Darth Geek on September 25, 2013, 05:54:11 AM
I haven't seen the ep but
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I would absolutely LOVE that if that were the case.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's Show for Marvel: 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' - The Thread
Post by: k1 on September 25, 2013, 06:05:33 AM
Loved it. The episode flew by. My wife said it felt like a movie the way it was put together. Can't wait til next week.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 25, 2013, 06:29:42 AM
i didn't notice any woman's bare feet. this isn't a joss whedon show. :angry:
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Post by: ShadowDog on September 25, 2013, 06:34:25 AM
I agree they should have been way more subtle with Book's comment. Something like "He creeps me out." And leave it at that for now.

The show was what I expected, slick, overproduced, and fun.
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Post by: Tripe on September 25, 2013, 06:35:55 AM
i didn't notice any woman's bare feet. this isn't a joss whedon show. :angry:
They will come...


Listening to the show right now, will have to watch it tonight.
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Post by: ScottotD on September 25, 2013, 06:40:04 AM
I loved it too, my only minor issue is they're not going to be able to bring in anyone too badass or powerful as either a hero or a villain without it seeming weird they don't join or aren't taken on by The Avengers... however I'll be disappointed if they don't draw mostly from the Marvel U.
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Post by: goflyblind on September 25, 2013, 06:45:34 AM
i didn't notice any woman's bare feet. this isn't a joss whedon show. :angry:
They will come...

... and so will he. *marxeyebrowwiggle*
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Post by: Tripe on September 25, 2013, 07:32:17 AM
Ok so, it sounded great, can't wait to see it. :)
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on September 25, 2013, 08:23:02 AM
I thought it was a bit dull... Not that I was expecting any grand Avengers style CGI assaults... but the meat and potatoes of the script weren't anything more than a standard police procedural... and the two techie members of the team were annoying out of all relation to their screen time... But it's a pilot, and pilots are typically a bit bumbling / fumbling anyways. As with any new show, I'll need a good half season to figure out if it has staying power once it finds it's legs.
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Post by: LucasM on September 25, 2013, 10:43:37 AM
I thought it was a bit dull... Not that I was expecting any grand Avengers style CGI assaults... but the meat and potatoes of the script weren't anything more than a standard police procedural... and the two techie members of the team were annoying out of all relation to their screen time... But it's a pilot, and pilots are typically a bit bumbling / fumbling anyways. As with any new show, I'll need a good half season to figure out if it has staying power once it finds it's legs.

I looked at it as your standard origin story for the agents that would comprise Coulson's team.  Like you said about pilots, those generally don't have as much depth to them as other stories will.  But, despite that, the story was quite engaging for me.

Having seen Whedon's other shows, I have some tiny idea of just how 'big' they can make this series, building off of the group that was collected just in this episode, though obviously much more will be added with time.  Since Jeb and Maurissa were heavily involved in Dollhouse and Dr. Horrible they have demonstrated storytelling depth as well as Joss' capacity for same.  Given that this episode was an origin story, I thought they still managed to do a lot with it.  Not only did they set up a huge number of future subplots with just the hints they dropped with each character as to how they got where they are, but to utilize already-known sources for the antihero's power source so we aren't bogged down as much by his origin (though it does set up future 'where did this come from' issues, there's nothing that has to be figured out immediately other than how to stop him), so the focus can remain mainly on the SHIELD team dynamics.

I do agree that the wonder twins were initially annoying, but hopefully they'll be toned down a tad in the future, now that they're symbiosis has been somewhat established.
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Post by: Raven on September 25, 2013, 08:09:36 PM
Liked the first episode.  Nice to see Preacher from Serenity cast again. 
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Post by: mrbasehart on September 26, 2013, 06:02:51 AM
Beautiful women with snappy dialogue in Joss Whedon show alert!

I liked it. 
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 26, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
A good start, but not great.  I don't know, it just wasn't clicking... yet.  But there was a lot of info to get through to set up the premise, so I think they did a good job with some great gags.  I just wasn't invested in the main plot.  The new agent isn't a very interesting character yet, but I like the fact that he's a more generic black ops guy, and that Coulson has more super-hero based values and is more interested in helping people rather than covering stuff up.

I'm sure we'll see SHIELD deal with splinter cells and shadow cabinets down the line, but it's a nice change of pace.  It also plays into the idea that Whedon doesn't really like the idea of super-heroes with guns, but having that option be the least desirable one and having the traditional rifle replaced with a sci-fi life saving machine at the last second.

My favourite bits:

"Welcome to level 7.  Sorry, there was a dark corner and I couldn't help myself."
Coulson drugging the new guy.
It's a little poop with knives sticking out of it.

Can we agree that Coulson wins this show.  I hope everyone else on the cast can catch up (at least when they have the opportunity to have more characters.  Too much info dump)

Theories:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Things I hope we'll see:
Damage Control
The Agents of Atlas (super-heroes from the 50's)
Quasimodo (an evil living computer.  Not a great character, but a creepy visual who probably won't make it into any movie)
Guest appearances from movie characters.  Just around the time the next Marvel movies arrives as a taste.  Think how many people will tune in if they are promised a hint of stuff to come in an upcoming movie!  Yeah, you probably won't get RDJ, but maybe Chris Evans or Sam Jackson.
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Post by: Tripe on September 27, 2013, 09:13:48 AM
Things I hope we'll see:
Damage Control

This, always this.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 27, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
I SMELL SPIN-OFF!
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Post by: k1 on October 01, 2013, 06:39:26 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on October 01, 2013, 07:48:59 PM
Certainly liked this one better than the pilot... but I smell a Mythbusters episode...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Pak-Man on October 01, 2013, 10:34:18 PM
Yeah, I like this show. It's fun in a way I haven't seen on TV in a long time. It's not setting out to wrench you to your core. Just to give you a fun ride.
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Post by: LucasM on October 02, 2013, 01:41:27 AM
Certainly liked this one better than the pilot... but I smell a Mythbusters episode...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

My guess:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Even with Joss as nothing more than overseer, I agree with Pak, the show is fun in a way not seen in a long time [I'd add, "since Joss' last show was on"].

However, happy as I am that Joss is the Big Kahuna in Marvel's 'second wave', I'd much rather see Joss himself give us 72 hours of his own personal work on the small screen in three years, rather than four hours in two movies, three years apart.  I just hope his success between Avengers, the Second Wave, and - presumably - S.H.I.E.L.D., gives him the clout to do so in the future, with whatever the hell he feels like making getting maintained and renewed long enough to find its audience.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on October 02, 2013, 04:20:58 AM
I agree with your spoiler Lucas.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: goflyblind on October 02, 2013, 04:26:47 AM
haven't seen the episode yet, but #5 might be relevant: http://www.cracked.com/article_15421_5-myths-about-flying-everyone-believes-thanks-to-movies.html

edit: oh, yeah, totally relevant.
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Post by: ScottotD on October 02, 2013, 08:26:47 AM
SO FUN! :D
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on October 02, 2013, 08:49:34 AM
You guys have convinced me this might be good enough to watch, first new TV show in a few years I've been interested in.  Even though it's on a station I get I think I'll still buy it on Amazon VOD, not watching very much broadcast TV the last few years makes the commercial breaks way more annoying...
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Post by: ScottotD on October 02, 2013, 09:01:16 AM
Sky looks like a mix of Mia Sara and Eliza Dushku. 


Also, YAY cameo!
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Post by: Pak-Man on October 09, 2013, 07:31:58 AM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: stansimpson on October 09, 2013, 07:38:34 PM
Just watched the latest ep. Using this comment as a reminder to come back here, but real quick...

I finally realized something about Sky. Her character seems to be written for Aubrey Plaza, don'tchya think?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Pak-Man on October 10, 2013, 05:33:03 AM
Just watched the latest ep. Using this comment as a reminder to come back here, but real quick...

I finally realized something about Sky. Her character seems to be written for Aubrey Plaza, don'tchya think?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: mrbasehart on October 10, 2013, 05:43:17 AM
Aubrey Plaza's a little too dour for Skye.

The episode was good, though as soon as whatsisface fell into the engine, I knew there'd be some sort of payoff.  Coulson should know better!
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Post by: ScottotD on October 10, 2013, 06:21:30 AM
No .gif of Skye running yet? You disappoint me internets.
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Post by: k1 on October 10, 2013, 12:49:19 PM
The show has been picked up for a full season.   :highfive:
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Post by: Darth Geek on October 10, 2013, 06:55:10 PM
No .gif of Skye running yet? You disappoint me internets.
Found this:

(http://i.imgur.com/O8Pe76H.gif)
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on October 10, 2013, 07:02:00 PM
It makes the angels cry that I can only apply a single 'like' to that previous post...
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Post by: ScottotD on October 11, 2013, 10:27:20 AM
No .gif of Skye running yet? You disappoint me internets.
Found this:

(http://i.imgur.com/O8Pe76H.gif)

YAY! Go internet!
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Post by: Pak-Man on October 11, 2013, 10:47:04 AM
I would like to note that though the reference to "Skye Running" was very vague, not a man who saw that episode had any doubt what scene was being referred to. :^)
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Post by: stansimpson on October 11, 2013, 03:22:13 PM
It finally dawned on me what this show really is, so I made a pic of it:

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/stansimpson/CSIMarvel_zps078e1204.jpg)
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Post by: lassieface on October 22, 2013, 08:37:41 PM
I loved that Coulson stood in the same way when he blew the door open. Arms crossed; unphased by anything.
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Post by: ScottotD on November 13, 2013, 09:57:00 AM
I've been stunned that despite (I assume) having more creative creative control than ever this seems to be the most one dimensional Whedon series ever however the last three eps seem to have started a bigger arc that may lead somewhere.
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Post by: Pak-Man on November 13, 2013, 11:32:17 AM
Whedon's shows (With the exception of Firefly) always seem to need a few episodes or even a season to start finding their teeth. I've only seen the first few episodes of Buffy, and if I were to judge it based on that, I'd say it wasn't all that great. But I've also seen one or two of the later episodes, so I know it got there eventually. The fact that this is Marvel and that comes with a built-in audience means Joss will have the time to develop this into something awesome. I see little seeds beginning to grow. I haven't given up on it yet, and I'm enjoying it, even in these early stages...
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Post by: lassieface on November 14, 2013, 09:14:50 PM
I have such a crush on Simmons.
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Post by: LucasM on November 20, 2013, 10:41:38 AM
Didn't mention it before, but I like Marvel's new '3D' logo at the start of the show.

Loved the little nod to 'Dollhouse' in the first couple lines of dialog in Coulson's dream at the end. ;D
[spoilered for exact quote]
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: pezdrake on March 06, 2014, 03:50:09 PM
Not sure if anyones following this show and thread but if so, was this week's figure at the end
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
?

Were we supposed to recognize him?
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Post by: k1 on March 06, 2014, 03:53:26 PM
Not sure if anyones following this show and thread but if so, was this week's figure at the end
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
?

Were we supposed to recognize him?

I thought it was
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
but it was hard to tell given the condition of it. But
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Post by: Bob on March 06, 2014, 04:08:40 PM
I had to look up on the internet to see what the initials meant and what kind of thing that was............I do not read comics.

Don't know the characters name, but at least I know what that thing gives off.....the good and the bad of it.

Thanks Google!
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Post by: LucasM on March 06, 2014, 08:42:06 PM
Not sure if anyones following this show and thread but if so, was this week's figure at the end
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
?

Were we supposed to recognize him?

I thought it was
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
but it was hard to tell given the condition of it. But
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

If you are referring to the tube (vague enough so hopefully that isn't considered a spoiler), they've already named one fairly well-known character, I believe that what you're referring to was supposed to be a 'test' for the process (or someone mid-way through the process).  The character they named was:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

EDIT: added an additional paragraph at the end, inside the spoiler (marked).
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Post by: LucasM on March 06, 2014, 09:42:56 PM
I've been stunned that despite (I assume) having more creative creative control than ever this seems to be the most one dimensional Whedon series ever however the last three eps seem to have started a bigger arc that may lead somewhere.

In addition to what Pak wrote, this isn't a JOSS Whedon show.  Yes, he's 'leading the second wave' for Marvel films and helped design and create this, but this is very much a JED Whedon/Maurissa Tancharoen show.  [If it was a Joss show, he would have written and directed the premiere episode, and would do so for any 'major plot point' episodes (e.g. the 'Coulson finds out' episode).  He has neither written nor directed any of them thus far.]  Jed and Maurissa likely have bull sessions with him, throwing out ideas and the three tweaking them, but I doubt he's scouring the scripts for detail (there's not been a single 'Joss-ism' [phrasing/joke] that I can recall in all 14 episodes thus far).

So this series will continue to be far more comparable to Dollhouse than Firefly, Buffy, or Angel.  Dollhouse, as Pak said about 'pure' Joss shows, also took a while (til the end of the first season, actually) to get enough groundwork set to actually get into anything of serious depth (unfortunately for Dollhouse, most people had bailed on it by that point).  At this point, Agents is getting deeper (into emotional depth, as well as Marvel history/characters) than ever as it goes on.  By the end of this season I have no doubt there will be some serious - and seriously deep - shit hitting the fan. ;D
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Post by: Bob on March 07, 2014, 01:53:08 AM
Not sure if anyones following this show and thread but if so, was this week's figure at the end
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
?

Were we supposed to recognize him?

I thought it was
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
but it was hard to tell given the condition of it. But
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

If you are referring to the tube (vague enough so hopefully that isn't considered a spoiler), they've already named one fairly well-known character, I believe that what you're referring to was supposed to be a 'test' for the process (or someone mid-way through the process).  The character they named was:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

EDIT: added an additional paragraph at the end, inside the spoiler (marked).
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Post by: k1 on March 07, 2014, 06:35:24 AM
Good point. I forgot they mentioned him. (Not familiar with him other than recognizing the name)

Saw someone mention elsewhere that "Bob" was a nod to Deadpools punching bag of a sidekick.
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Post by: Bob on March 07, 2014, 02:20:49 PM
This BOB agrees.

We punch all we see.
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Post by: Darth Geek on March 20, 2014, 03:45:38 PM
Patton Oswalt is going to be on Agents of SHIELD:

http://marvel.com/news/tv/2014/3/20/22184/exclusive_patton_oswalt_enlists_in_marvels_agents_of_shield.

I haven't been watching the show, but I intend to when it comes out on DVD. This sounds pretty cool. My favorite part of the article is Patton talking about Googling the name hoping it was MODOK.
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Post by: lassieface on March 21, 2014, 10:02:52 AM
I really hope they keep going with the whole Shield/aliens conspiracy. That's much more interesting than monster-of-the-week format.
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Post by: LucasM on March 21, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
Not sure if anyones following this show and thread but if so, was this week's figure at the end
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
?

Were we supposed to recognize him?

I thought it was
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
but it was hard to tell given the condition of it. But
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

From what Coulson said to Sky in the last episode, I think your thought in your last spoiler (that I colored red) is sounding most likely.  Much more than what I had thought:

If you are referring to the tube (vague enough so hopefully that isn't considered a spoiler), they've already named one fairly well-known character, I believe that what you're referring to was supposed to be a 'test' for the process (or someone mid-way through the process).
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Post by: k1 on March 21, 2014, 11:45:57 AM
Not sure if anyones following this show and thread but if so, was this week's figure at the end
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
?

Were we supposed to recognize him?

I thought it was
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
but it was hard to tell given the condition of it. But
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

From what Coulson said to Sky in the last episode, I think your thought in your last spoiler (that I colored red) is sounding most likely.  Much more than what I had thought:

If you are referring to the tube (vague enough so hopefully that isn't considered a spoiler), they've already named one fairly well-known character, I believe that what you're referring to was supposed to be a 'test' for the process (or someone mid-way through the process).

Maybe we're both right?  Maybe it's a combination of (blood from what you put in red) to help the guy transition his body into accepting the tech for
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
? (Not sure if that last part needs to be spoilered or not since the upcoming episode lists Mike Peterson as that character & Marvel has released promo shots of him with that name on it as well.)

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Post by: lassieface on March 21, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Road_Element on March 26, 2014, 12:45:46 AM
I watch a few episodes and really i wasn't all that impressed. But then again i don't care for 90% of anything on TV.  The best episode i saw was the one about the alien virus. For one it was one of the few episodes that wasn't about that annoying Skye character. Its funny that the least interesting character in the Marvel Movies (aka Agent Coulson). Is the best thing about the Show.
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Post by: Pak-Man on March 26, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
Quote
Anyway, all assumptions that Whedon would be returning to his usual acting stable to populate this series have hereby been challenged, at least until Amy Acker shows up.
Odd, it's like I heard a high-pitched whistle or something.

*WHISTLE*

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/26/amy-acker-to-guest-star-on-marvels-agents-of-shield-as-the-cellist-mentioned-in-the-avengers
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Post by: RoninFox on March 26, 2014, 12:15:33 PM
I watch a few episodes and really i wasn't all that impressed. But then again i don't care for 90% of anything on TV.  The best episode i saw was the one about the alien virus. For one it was one of the few episodes that wasn't about that annoying Skye character. Its funny that the least interesting character in the Marvel Movies (aka Agent Coulson). Is the best thing about the Show.

While Coulson wasn't exactly the center of the universe, I wouldn't call him uninteresting.  I for one was more interested in him during The Avengers than Hawkeye, and I'm not even hating on Hawkeye there.
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Post by: k1 on March 26, 2014, 12:33:49 PM
Plus the bonus short films on the DVDs were great.
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Post by: Sideswipe on March 26, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
This show should have been about Titus Welliver's agent.
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Post by: Darth Geek on March 26, 2014, 07:14:59 PM
Plus the bonus short films on the DVDs were great.
Agreed. I particularly like the one about him getting a snack at a gas station during a holdup.
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Post by: LucasM on April 07, 2014, 06:58:04 PM
Damn it!

Apparently, if I want to remain spoiler free for 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier' (for anything they change from the exceptional Brubaker comic storyline), then I have to stop watching 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' until after Winter Soldier comes to Blu-ray [it doesn't even have a release date yet].  According to the mailing from the Disney Movie Rewards site:
(http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq49/LucasM06/images_shield_zps69e21ed1.gif)
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Post by: lassieface on April 08, 2014, 08:29:50 PM
Wow! This show just got 100x more interesting. Genuinely excited for it now. Hopefully they manage to keep surprising everyone.
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Post by: Sideswipe on April 08, 2014, 08:44:20 PM
The aftermath of Winter Soldier should have ended this show.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 09, 2014, 06:22:30 AM
Hey, spoilers for Lucas, dude.

Anyway, based on the fact that this is getting better word of mouth, I'll finally return to this show when this season ends.
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Post by: Sideswipe on April 09, 2014, 06:25:42 AM
I didnt give any spoilers.  I just made a vague observation.
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Post by: Pak-Man on April 09, 2014, 07:37:22 AM
Haven't seen last night's episode, yet, but based on the last couple episodes, I think this show is starting to reach its potential.
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Post by: Bob on April 09, 2014, 06:08:58 PM
At least I understand why this show had some commercial weeks in their schedule......they had to wait for the movie to come out.
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Post by: LucasM on April 09, 2014, 07:19:50 PM
Hey, spoilers for Lucas, dude.

Anyway, based on the fact that this is getting better word of mouth, I'll finally return to this show when this season ends.

I didnt give any spoilers.  I just made a vague observation.

Thank you for the vigilance, Johnny Unusual.  It is appreciated. :)  But building on what Sideswipe said, I think his comment actually went into less detail than what the Disney Rewards Points e-mailing had already said.  [And, though that Rewards Points statement spoiled a little bit for me, at least it did so in the service of preventing me from getting a major spoiler for Winter Soldier by my continuing to watch AoS before WS comes out on Blu.]
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Post by: Pak-Man on April 09, 2014, 10:38:07 PM
Just saw the latest episode. I have to admit, this show played me masterfully.

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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 09, 2014, 10:50:19 PM
No Blu-Ray release date set yet...  I guess I'll have some time to wait until I start watching this, looks like it will be worth getting on BD.
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Post by: lassieface on April 11, 2014, 02:10:58 PM
No Blu-Ray release date set yet...  I guess I'll have some time to wait until I start watching this, looks like it will be worth getting on BD.

I'd imagine we'll be waiting at least a year for season two.
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Post by: ShadowDog on April 11, 2014, 02:40:34 PM
I didn't take this show seriously until the most recent episode. Holy crap.
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Post by: pezdrake on April 30, 2014, 08:03:52 AM
Past few eps have been really good (last weeks was a bit of a bridge and a bit slow but they made up for it this week).  Looking forward to see how Marvel uses this to bridge from Winter Soldier to Avengers 2.
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Post by: LucasM on June 16, 2014, 02:58:02 PM
For those who watched through the series finale - and for those who also saw Captain America: the Winter Soldier - I have a question:

I am highly spoiler-avoidant, so when I heard that the post-break episode of this show was linked to a reveal in Captain America: the Winter Soldier, I stopped watching the show (just recording it to watch when the Blu of CA:tWS comes out).

Now, I've read the superb Brubaker run on the Captain America comic, so I know the biggest reveal of that film.  [spoilered for massive spoiler of the film - seriously, if you haven't seen the film, or read the Brubaker run this film was based on, you do NOT want to look in here!]
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To those that have seen one or the other or both (and who read my spoiler above), I have the question: do I already KNOW the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. cross-continuity spoiler that links the two together?  Or is there another reveal that - if I watched the 'Agents' episodes I have saved - would spoil a big reveal for me when I watch 'Winter Soldier' when it comes out on Blu?

In other words - is
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- the only reveal (for 'threat to the Agents of SHIELD/Coulson'), or is there something else?  If it is only the first (what I put in the spoiler), then I've been delaying watching the rest of the season of 'Agents' for nothing, because I've known that for a few years (since whenever Brubaker wrote Cap).

Thanks very much!
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Post by: Sideswipe on June 16, 2014, 03:03:46 PM
No, there is a reveal about SHIELD the organization itself.
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Post by: Tripe on June 16, 2014, 03:05:50 PM
Yeah, I need to catch up on the show but the big reveal in the film is not the identity of The Winter Soldier (which is more a quasi spoiler really as it's right there in the title of the film for those that know the comic) but rather something much larger and further reaching which will directly effect anyone connected to SHEILD.
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Post by: Sideswipe on June 16, 2014, 03:07:05 PM
The show also basically tells what Cap does to save the day as well.  If you don't want Cap 2 spoilers wait on watching the show.
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Post by: LucasM on June 16, 2014, 04:54:49 PM
Thank you all very much!

I'll simply continue to sit on my last six 'Agents' episodes til Sept 9 (the street date for Blus of CA:tWS).  Then I'll have a marathon. :)
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Post by: k1 on June 16, 2014, 06:02:16 PM
Just curious on this one. I watched all of SHIELD but haven't seen Winter Soldier yet.  Did it really spoil anything that obvious that wasn't seen/implied in the various trailers for Winter Soldier? The major events that they seemed to imply were happening were all basically stuff that I kinda knew about from the trailers I think.
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Post by: Sideswipe on June 16, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: k1 on June 16, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
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Ok that's what I thought.  (Those were the things I was thinking of.)

So I guess my answer to Lucas would be that you probably could watch them if you're running out of room on your DVR and need to clear off some space (or just don't want to wait until September) without really ruining too much if you've seen the trailers or have any sort of idea as to the casting of upcoming Avengers/Marvel movies.

However, that is just my opinion.  I wouldn't want to ruin the movie for you.  But it does seem that the major events were pretty much obvious from the trailers.  Again, I have not seen Winter Soldier yet but I do plan to as soon as it comes out.
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Post by: Pak-Man on June 16, 2014, 06:39:50 PM
I'd say it depends on your priorities. It really is awesome to watch everything in Agents of SHIELD unfold if you have Captain America fresh in your mind, but you could watch it in the reverse order and be surprised by the very same reveal. Or, to look at it another way, Captain America has a huge spoiler for Agents of SHIELD, but Agents of SHIELD has a huge spoiler for Captain America. They're the same spoiler. It depends on which one you want to be surprised while watching. I don't think either one would be ruined by knowing the twist..
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Post by: Sideswipe on June 16, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
Pretty much what Pak Man said.
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Post by: LucasM on June 16, 2014, 07:05:54 PM
Thanks, Pak - that's an interesting way of looking at it.  I think since Cap is 'bigger' (and has less installments to continue fleshing things out), I'd probably go with the film being the one I'd rather have 'unspoiled' (particularly since I can watch 'Agents' ep 17-on immediately after).

k1, I have gotten so good at avoiding spoilers I actually have not seen a trailer for CapAm:tWS. :)  I avoid even trailers for any film I already know I'm going to be watching.  And I have a DVR with DVD-burning capability, so they are already backed up, just waiting, so no pressure to watch (from that, at least).


My spoiler-avoidance developed into 'tactical viewing' of newsfeeds and other means of sharing info about upcoming [TV/film] after the end of Buffy season 5 was revealed in the subject line of a post on the Buffy newsgroup - over three months in advance of that final season 5 show airing.  [My ideas on avoiding spoilers for a theatrical presentation (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=1904.msg827406#msg827406) in case anyone is interested in the degree of tactical thinking I take this to. :)  Interestingly, I didn't mention 'avoid trailers for it' in that post... probably not relevant by that point.]
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Post by: mrbasehart on June 17, 2014, 02:55:42 PM
I will say that the show get a whole lot better in the wake of Captain America 2.  It feels like the showrunners knew about what was going to happen in the movie and had to spin their wheel for 15 episodes. 
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Post by: Sideswipe on June 17, 2014, 03:01:44 PM
Yeah, definitely.
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Post by: LucasM on July 13, 2014, 01:43:40 PM
Well, in reading an article discussing next season's shift to a later time (with the new Sharon Carter show in the previous 'Agents' timeslot), I saw a picture that I think gave away the secret.

Is this the 'big reveal' that happened in 'Agents' and one of the ones in CapAm:Winter Soldier:
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  ...Really can't avoid spoilers all the time, even if wanting to read something that theoretically should be spoiler free (discussing a time change and info on the Agent Carter TV show).

If what I have in the spoiler above is the reveal, then a quick 'yes' or 'no' from someone would be nice.  If the secret's already been blown for me, I might as well not wait til Sept when Winter Soldier comes out to finish off the season of 'Agents'.  In fact, if that is what the big reveal was, then it will get less climactic the longer I wait to see how it showed up in the series.

Thanks!
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Post by: BathTub on July 13, 2014, 02:06:00 PM
Yes.
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Post by: LucasM on July 13, 2014, 02:49:28 PM
Well, the down side is that the revelation won't be as organically presented during the show.

But the upside is: I now have what it seems people here have described as basically the six best episodes of the season I can binge on all in a row tonight. :)


Thanks BathTub, and thanks again, all those who helped me make it through this 'transition'. ;D
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Post by: Sideswipe on July 13, 2014, 03:12:22 PM
There still might be a surprise or two in store for you in the ending of the series...
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Post by: Pak-Man on September 23, 2014, 08:49:24 PM
And the show's back!

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Post by: LucasM on September 24, 2014, 01:00:19 AM
Very much agree! ;D
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Post by: lassieface on September 25, 2014, 09:30:56 PM
This feels much more in sync with the Marvel universe now. I'm not sure why specifically...but I guess it just felt like they finally found their footing. Like Pak-Man said, a really strong start. I'm loving this show more and more!
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Post by: ScottotD on February 15, 2015, 04:40:30 AM
If you gave up the show in the first few eps you should pick it up from episode 10, it gets fantastic from then on.
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Post by: Darth Geek on February 15, 2015, 08:08:07 AM
My old issue with it now is how stretched the plotlines are. Especially everything with Sky's father. I really expected to really see him do something in the mid season finale, but it was yet another cop out.
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Post by: LucasM on May 06, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
I'm really fucking angry.  At myself as much as at this show.

Because, in the first 10 minutes of the current episode ("Scars") there is an almost throwaway comment made that just flat-out states what can only be assumed to be a major plot point from 'Avengers: Age of Ultron', which I have not seen yet.  What was said (paraphrased) is in the spoiler:
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Had they had the tiniest clip from the 'Avengers: Age of Ultron' movie in the 'Previously' section, I could have - and would have - turned it off before the major spoiler hit.

[The reason I'm angry at myself is because, when 'CapAm: Winter Soldier' fell mid-season last year for 'Agents', I realized that IT was going to have carry-over into 'Agents', so didn't watch the rest of the season of 'Agents' until, well, until a random poster for the show that I saw on-line blew the Big Reveal that was in there about S.H.I.E.L.D., at which point, the internet had spoiled that for me already, so I watched the rest of the season.]

I HATE spoilers!

Damn it!!


[[Edit was to remove some large text size.]]
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Post by: BathTub on May 07, 2015, 04:04:58 AM
This post confused me because Coulson isn't in Avengers: Age of Ultron, and
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can't really be considered a spoiler is it?
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Post by: Darth Geek on May 07, 2015, 06:17:53 AM
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I had already seen the movie, so what annoyed me about that line is that
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Post by: Pak-Man on May 07, 2015, 07:22:56 AM
It's not as major a spoiler as it sounds like. It's a single moment in the movie. It solves a big problem, and you still probably won't piece together how it happens until it does. Age of Ultron isn't spoiled. Don't worry. :^)
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Post by: Pak-Man on May 07, 2015, 07:33:40 AM
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I had already seen the movie, so what annoyed me about that line is that
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Big spoilers here, though:

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Post by: LucasM on May 07, 2015, 11:57:26 AM
It's not as major a spoiler as it sounds like. It's a single moment in the movie. It solves a big problem, and you still probably won't piece together how it happens until it does. Age of Ultron isn't spoiled. Don't worry. :^)

Thank you.  I think it bothered me so much because I remembered - only after seeing that part of the show - that about two weeks ago I thought, "I have to remember to not watch any 'Agents of SHIELD' episodes after 'Av:AoU' comes out until I've seen the film," but then forgot it when it came time for the episode to air.

Hopefully the combination of 'CapAm: Winter S' and 'Aven: AoUltron' having events that show up in 'Agents' will get me to remember for next year's films that appear during the show's season [Captain America: Civil War  -  May 6, 2016 which is highly likely to have cross-over effects // and Doctor Strange  -  November 4, 2016 which may or may not have effects (if Agents has a fourth season)].


Are there any other spoilers in that episode of 'Agents' which relate to 'A: Ultron'?  Thanks, anyone.
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Post by: Pak-Man on May 07, 2015, 01:01:41 PM
After that line? There's a reference to some stuff Tony Stark did that kicked off the events of the movie, but it really only spoils the setup, which you may or may not already know about.
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Post by: LucasM on May 07, 2015, 06:09:51 PM
Thanks, Pak.  :)

My admittedly vague understanding of the start of the film was that
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But if it is the set-up for the film (first few minutes), rather than important plot points from later, then it's OK.  It is more the progression of the story and surprises that Whedon has in store that I'm more concerned about with spoilers.


EDIT:  Screw it... I'm having one of my very rare GOOD days, and there's a showing at an IMAX theater that I was unaware of near me (I'd been thinking the closest one was a 30-40 minute drive away, so was factoring that into what brainpower would be needed), and it starts in less than an hour.  Enough time to take extra seizure meds (to counter the overwhelm from sound/visual input) and have them in my system by the time it starts, and enough time to get there comfortably.

So, presuming they aren't sold out (unlikely for a Thurs eve I hope), I'll see Avengers: Age of Ultron tonight and it won't matter what else is in 'Agents' from here to the end of the season.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on May 07, 2015, 07:28:25 PM
This and Agent Carter both picked up for new seasons!
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Post by: Pak-Man on May 07, 2015, 08:15:47 PM
Wooooo! I was worried about Agent Carter. The critics loved it, but the ratings didn't.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on May 07, 2015, 08:18:27 PM
Wooooo! I was worried about Agent Carter. The critics loved it, but the ratings didn't.

Yeah, me too.

Wish they'd announce those other two shows they have in the works.

And some dates for the other Netflix shows while they're at it.
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Post by: LucasM on May 07, 2015, 10:45:47 PM
Just got home.  Will likely join in the 'Ultron' thread when I'm a tad more coherent.  And will watch my abruptly terminated episode of 'Agents' we were discussing above to finish off the night.

Joining Grug III and Pak in being glad both 'Agents' and 'Carter' were picked up for another season each.
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Post by: k1 on May 08, 2015, 08:06:06 AM
This and Agent Carter both picked up for new seasons!

Unfortunately the spin-off with Mockingbird & Hunter got shut down.  (Which may make for an awkward transition between next week's finale & the start of the next season if they bring them back since I assume they set it up for them to head off on some other adventure.)
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on May 08, 2015, 03:25:38 PM
I do like Bobbi Morse quite a lot, but I can see why they might not give a middling show a spin off. Hopefully she gets a series when agents of shield finishes, or a TV movie or something.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 10, 2015, 03:11:12 AM
Yeah, Agents of SHIELD can be pretty shakey in terms of quality, but Agent Carter was generally successful and sort of added something missing in the Marvel Cinematic (and televisual) Universe: secret identities.  I think they used that aspect rather well, by having the character both be a secret agent and a double agent.  I won't miss the latter in the new season, but I hope that they keep the former.  I like the idea that we have a woman who can boss around secret agents and such but has to deal with even more bullshit when she gets into the real world.  Also, I hope we'll have Toby Jones skulking around in the background.
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Post by: Sideswipe on May 10, 2015, 06:18:18 AM
I couldnt get passed the second episode of Agent Carter.  It was so boring.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on May 10, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
I couldnt get passed the second episode of Agent Carter.  It was so boring.

You are.
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Post by: Sideswipe on May 10, 2015, 03:36:39 PM
I am rubber you are glue...
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Post by: RoninFox on May 11, 2015, 05:25:45 AM
Those both sound like lame superpowers.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on May 11, 2015, 06:07:32 AM
Sounds like someone hasn't heard of Paste Pot Pete.
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Post by: RoninFox on May 11, 2015, 06:23:49 AM
Well if he's in Marvel he's got a good shot at an entertaining movie or tv representation.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 11, 2015, 06:41:54 AM
It'll be hard to top this.

(http://www.earth-2.net/images/columns/reddick/king/king06-04.jpg)
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Post by: Sideswipe on May 11, 2015, 06:44:03 AM
Those both sound like lame superpowers.

The rubber part is pretty much what Mr. Fantastic has for a power. I agree though, it is kind of lame.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on May 12, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/agents-shield-spinoff-might-not-be-dead-after-all-219327

Make up your minds, ABC!
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Post by: Darth Geek on May 12, 2015, 05:32:39 PM
Those both sound like lame superpowers.

The rubber part is pretty much what Mr. Fantastic has for a power. I agree though, it is kind of lame.
It's all in how you use it. Elastigirl in The Inredibles was badass.
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Post by: BathTub on May 12, 2015, 06:29:39 PM
So I figured that my policy of not watching a series until it was over didn't really make much sense with this one since I was watching the films at the cinemas. I just finished up the first season. I was surprised there weren't more cameos, it seems clear that Chris Evans and co get paid by the face, given they were fine with showing clips of their backs occasionally but never the face. Fury's make up was hideous on his first appearance! At least they fixed it later on. It felt like it suffered a bit on low budget villains, especially Deathloks armour. Most of the budget seemed to have gone into the Bus set.  Kind of like SG1 in a way.  I totally fell for the Hydra/Shield faction split, they managed to keep some internal suspense even though I had seen Winter Soldier.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on May 12, 2015, 06:50:24 PM
I was surprised there weren't more cameos, it seems clear that Chris Evans and co get paid by the face, given they were fine with showing clips of their backs occasionally but never the face.

There was an article about how the contracts were screwed up because they didn't forsee the size of the MCU at the start and made no allowances for TV in the contracts. In theory newser actors to the series are more likely to show up.
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Post by: BathTub on May 22, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Alright. Watched the first half of season 2, things were alright, we all knew that Skye was going to be gifted sooner or later, enjoyed the new cast. Then Agent Carter, which was pretty decent , felt it relied on stereotypes a lot, and despite the sexism theme they certainly got Agent Carter into her underwear as often as possible.

It just occurred to me that I should have grabbed all the Marvel One Shots before doing this.
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Post by: Pak-Man on May 23, 2015, 12:47:28 AM
The only one-shot that applies is the Agent Carter one, and it actually works better as a sequel to the series.
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Post by: BathTub on May 24, 2015, 07:07:00 PM
Yeah you weren't kidding, it doesn't really fit into sequence at all. It more like they remade it rather than trying to wedge it into the show.

Finished Agents. Wow they really went over the top with the 'kill the abominations motif' didn't they. And then followed it up pretty heavy handed with 'we much put them all on lists!'. I wonder how much will actually end up being relevant for the Inhumans movie.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 24, 2015, 08:23:34 PM
Yeah you weren't kidding, it doesn't really fit into sequence at all. It more like they remade it rather than trying to wedge it into the show.

Finished Agents. Wow they really went over the top with the 'kill the abominations motif' didn't they. And then followed it up pretty heavy handed with 'we much put them all on lists!'. I wonder how much will actually end up being relevant for the Inhumans movie.

Skye forms a group of gifted characters played by much cheaper actors.
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Post by: Darth Geek on May 24, 2015, 09:40:43 PM
Yeah you weren't kidding, it doesn't really fit into sequence at all. It more like they remade it rather than trying to wedge it into the show.

Finished Agents. Wow they really went over the top with the 'kill the abominations motif' didn't they. And then followed it up pretty heavy handed with 'we much put them all on lists!'. I wonder how much will actually end up being relevant for the Inhumans movie.

Skye forms a group of gifted characters played by much cheaper actors.
Well you couldn't get much more cheap than Sky's dad and his "supervillain team" from he episode 'One Of Us'. Jesus that was lame.
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Post by: BathTub on May 24, 2015, 10:00:12 PM
Yeah you weren't kidding, it doesn't really fit into sequence at all. It more like they remade it rather than trying to wedge it into the show.

Finished Agents. Wow they really went over the top with the 'kill the abominations motif' didn't they. And then followed it up pretty heavy handed with 'we much put them all on lists!'. I wonder how much will actually end up being relevant for the Inhumans movie.

Skye forms a group of gifted characters played by much cheaper actors.
Well you couldn't get much more cheap than Sky's dad and his "supervillain team" from he episode 'One Of Us'. Jesus that was lame.

Hah, you weren't impressed with the tech genius, the mob wife with razor blades screwed onto her fingers, and the guy with the voice?
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 24, 2015, 10:43:04 PM
Yeah you weren't kidding, it doesn't really fit into sequence at all. It more like they remade it rather than trying to wedge it into the show.

Finished Agents. Wow they really went over the top with the 'kill the abominations motif' didn't they. And then followed it up pretty heavy handed with 'we much put them all on lists!'. I wonder how much will actually end up being relevant for the Inhumans movie.

Skye forms a group of gifted characters played by much cheaper actors.
Well you couldn't get much more cheap than Sky's dad and his "supervillain team" from he episode 'One Of Us'. Jesus that was lame.

I actually like that episode, but yeah, it certainly wasn't for the villains, who were pretty silly.  Except, of course, Kyle McLaughlin (but he plays it in a wonderfully campy way.  "The Screaming... Talons?").  I could see his silly character being a turn off for some but when he isn't spending too much time whining about Skye, he's a fun villain, the kind the show needs to have more of.  I think that's why I liked it: the team was pretty lame, but at least it had some traditional superhero action that I feel the show could use more of (they did have it in the finale, in a good way).

BTW, without spoiling too much about the finale, it looks like the
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are going to be a big part of the next season.  Actually it took me far too long to realize that.  Hopefully, that means more superhero action and fewer internal squabbles that I'm getting a bit tired of.

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Post by: Darth Geek on May 25, 2015, 06:59:08 AM
I do like Kyle McLaughlin's character. But I got sick of waiting and waiting for him to transform, even before the halfway point in this season. And when he did in the finale, it was very underwhelming.
The biggest thing that keeps this series down is budget. It's already got a big budget for a TV show (and otherwise does look very nice and cinematic). But you just can't do the special effects of big blockbuster movies on a TV show. The closest we got was the excellent Absorbing Man at the beginning of Season 2. But unless Marvel is going to quadruple the budget for Season 3, I don't think this series will give us the really cool characters we all want from the comics.
That being said, I give them a lot of credit that they do put budget and effort behind their fight sequences, which are always really good.
It does have (mostly) good characters. The main cast are all really likable, especially Agent Caulson. And I hope we see a lot more of Patton Oswalt's twin characters.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 25, 2015, 07:12:44 AM
Agreed.  It's not just that Patton is great on the show, though he is.  I feel like the writing gets better when he's around, like the writers spring to life when they get the chance to write him.  So yes, more Patton, please.

About the budget: yes, it can't look like the Marvel films, but it should learn to look better (or at least more interesting) in it's own right.  Visually, it's kind of bland.  I think of what a lot of sci-fi shows did with budgets that were as much or less: while there were some definitely some embarrassing moments, largely shows like Buffy and Angel could have some great special effects and cool monster designs.  And I know that Hyde aside it isn't the most monster filled show, but I think they need to be more visually striking.  With some creativity, you can wow people while still on a budget.

And yeah, Hyde's transformation was a bit lame.  I didn't even realize he was supposed to do that for much of the series: I just thought he was going to be strong and lethal, rather than foreheady.
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Post by: Darth Geek on May 25, 2015, 10:44:56 AM
Agreed.  It's not just that Patton is great on the show, though he is.  I feel like the writing gets better when he's around, like the writers spring to life when they get the chance to write him.  So yes, more Patton, please.

How awesome would it have been if instead of going to Hawkeye's boring farmhouse, the Avengers holed up in a SHIELD bunker with a bunch of Patton Oswalt twin agents?
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Post by: BathTub on May 25, 2015, 12:55:46 PM
Oh yeah the show is definitely hurt by the budget, I think Deathlok in particular.
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Post by: LucasM on October 01, 2015, 06:31:42 PM
If anyone is interested, after remaining at about $45 for the last year and a half, the first season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is currently on sale at Best Buy for $24.99.  I just went and got one. :)

Edit: sorry, it is the Blu-ray set that is on sale for $24.99.
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Post by: Pak-Man on October 01, 2015, 06:42:04 PM
Blu-ray or DVD?
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 01, 2015, 06:50:39 PM
Blu Ray, it appears: http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=12532.msg926639#msg926639
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 21, 2015, 09:05:06 PM
Not loving this season so far.

I feel like we were promised exciting Secret Warriors stuff, and it's been pretty boring recruitment so far. Why did they wait until now to attempt to recruit the pre-existing inhumans they already knew about?

The Ward stuff is boring. He needs to go away for a few seasons and then come back. It just feels like treading the same ground.

The most interesting thing is the story line they tease for a few seconds at the end of each episode. Hopefully that pays off soon.
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Post by: LucasM on May 18, 2016, 06:32:59 PM
I have a question for anyone willing to help.

I suspect people know my feelings about spoilers [if not, the short form is: I will avoid even trailers for films I intend to see and all talk about such, to try to avoid spoilers].

Well, when I started watching season 3 episode 20 of Agents of SHIELD last week, within the first five minutes they were already mentioning things from Captain America: Civil War (the law for powered people registration was, luckily, all I recall, and that was in the comics, so I knew it was likely to begin with).  I turned it off immediately, and figured I'd have to wait for Civil War to come out on Blu-ray before I could finish the season off.

So my question is this, now that the season finale has aired:
Are there any additional spoilers for Captain America: Civil War in Agents of SHIELD beyond that first few minutes of last week's episode?  And/or, are there any beyond the presence of the registration law and possibly the fate of Captain America (as in the comics, which may not have even been carried over to the films, given how they change such storylines)?

If not, I'll go ahead and watch the rest of the season.

Thank you!
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Post by: k1 on May 18, 2016, 07:07:42 PM
I just finished the finale. You should be ok to watch the rest of the season. That was the only mention I recall of anything really Civil War related.
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Post by: LucasM on May 18, 2016, 07:13:07 PM
Thank you very much, k1!  I appreciate it.
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Post by: LucasM on July 22, 2016, 04:57:04 PM
It seems some people's speculation was correct (that speculation being that it wasn't an Inhuman that the burning image was related to).  [Posted today, an hour ago, apparently.]

Quote
SDCC: Ghost Rider Confirmed for "Agents of SHIELD" Season 4 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-ghost-rider-confirmed-for-agents-of-shield-season-4)

During today's panel for "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." at Comic-Con International: San Diego it was revealed that Ghost Rider will make his debut on Season 4 of the series.

Marvel rolled a brief clip of the standard S.H.I.E.L.D. logo, which burned red with heat and burst into flames. As the flames rolled back, a flaming skull appeared -- confirming longstanding rumors that Ghost Rider would appear on the show.

As indicated in previous reports, the Ghost Rider appearing on "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." will be the Marvel NOW! version of the character, Robbie Reyes. Reyes took up the Ghost Rider following a misunderstanding that resulted in being gunned down in the streets. He was revived by the ghost of Eli Morrow, his estranged uncle and Satanic serial killer. Permanently bonded with the Spirit of Vengeance, Robbie satiates Eli's thirst for murder by killing only those with truly evil souls. When he is not in his transformed state, Robbie takes care of Gabe, his developmentally disabled brother, and attends high school. This iteration of the character swaps out Ghost Rider's iconic motorcycle for a sleek black Dodge Charger.

The addition to Ghost Rider on the series is also notable for being the first time the character has appeared in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. While we already saw the character in live-action in the less-than-well-received Nicolas Cage films, those movies were produced by Sony, and not a part of Marvel Studios' canon. Now that the rights have reverted back to Marvel and Disney, the studios have license to use the character in a series like "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.," or his own potential project.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 22, 2016, 05:16:33 PM
A weird choice, IMO, and one that will probably lead to a less than spectacular adaptation of Ghost Rider. (I do enjoy AoS though)
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Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2016, 07:17:18 PM
It just makes me wonder why they had a character that used a flaming chain in the previous season if they knew they were going to have the Ghost Rider in it now.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 22, 2016, 10:20:24 PM
I would suggest because hey didn't know?
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Post by: Pak-Man on July 22, 2016, 11:02:32 PM
There were reports a while back that Norman Reedus was interested in playing Ghost Rider. Wonder if that was a little clever marketing/forshadowing.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on July 22, 2016, 11:19:52 PM
There were reports a while back that Norman Reedus was interested in playing Ghost Rider. Wonder if that was a little clever marketing/forshadowing.

It's gonna be Gabriel Luna

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-gabriel-luna-is-agents-of-shields-ghost-rider
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Post by: Pak-Man on July 22, 2016, 11:25:12 PM
Cool 'nuff. I'm actually not sure whether Reedus would have been a good thing or not. Maybe for a movie, but I dunno if he'd fit in on Agents of SHIELD.
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Post by: Pak-Man on September 21, 2016, 09:47:51 AM
So I'm loving the new season so far.

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Post by: Darth Geek on September 21, 2016, 10:54:54 AM
Not fond of the car they show in the promotions, I'd rather it be a motorcycle. But if they use the idea that he can turn any vehicle he's on into a flaming vehicle, that could be interesting.
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Post by: Pak-Man on September 21, 2016, 11:03:25 AM
This is a different Rider than the Johnny Blaze Rider most people are familiar with. Robbie uses a muscle car, but I'm pretty sure it's implied that whatever a rider rides is going to catch fire. (I want Marvel to get right on a Unicyclist rider for that reason.)
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Post by: The Lurker on September 21, 2016, 11:14:42 AM
If he chooses a Ford Pinto, are the flames even larger?
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Post by: Darth Geek on September 21, 2016, 12:07:36 PM
If he chooses a Ford Pinto, are the flames even larger?
That would be funny if he does and the car just explodes. Staggers out, "What the Hell?"


In the Quiptracks riff of Ghost Rider (2007) they had a running gag about riders from different eras with silly flaming vehicles.
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Post by: Russoguru on September 21, 2016, 12:46:03 PM
At least now I have a legit reason to start watching Agents of SHIELD again.
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 21, 2016, 05:14:42 PM
Really feels like they are trying to make it darker to capture some of the Netflix audience.

But it still has the AoS silliness that has always been there. (I am a fan).
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Post by: Russoguru on September 22, 2016, 03:45:46 PM
Really feels like they are trying to make it darker to capture some of the Netflix audience.
Luke Cage starts end of the month if memory serves.
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Post by: k1 on September 22, 2016, 03:58:51 PM
Really feels like they are trying to make it darker to capture some of the Netflix audience.
Luke Cage starts end of the month if memory serves.

Good news! Your memory is correct!
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Post by: LucasM on September 22, 2016, 04:52:29 PM
I enjoyed the episode too.  [Writing with vagueness instead of a spoiler:] The introduction was done in a way that gave the character some gravitas.  Clearly they are using their new timeslot's lessened limitations to good advantage.
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Post by: LucasM on September 22, 2016, 08:51:13 PM
I thought others might find this useful, something I just did (when prepping a season of Blu-rays to send to a friend).  It is a full list of the interactions between the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Agents of SHIELD, with films sandwiched between the episodes they fell between, and dates for each.

   Interactions between Marvel Cinematic Universe and Agents of SHIELD
   Spoiler-Free Version

Iron Man . . . . May 2, 2008
The Incredible Hulk . . . . June 13, 2008
Iron Man 2 . . . . May 7, 2010
Thor . . . . May 6, 2011
Captain America: The First Avenger . . . . July 22, 2011
Marvel's The Avengers . . . . May 4, 2012
Iron Man 3 . . . . May 3, 2013

Agents of SHIELD starts . . . . Sept. 24, 2013

Agents of SHIELD  1-6  FZZT . . . . Nov 05, 2013
Thor: The Dark World . . . . November 8, 2013
Agents of SHIELD  1-7  The Hub . . . . Nov 12, 2013

Agents of SHIELD  1-16  End of the Beginning . . . . Apr 01, 2014
Captain America: The Winter Soldier . . . . April 4, 2014
Agents of SHIELD  1-17  Turn, Turn, Turn . . . . Apr 08, 2014

Guardians of the Galaxy . . . . August 1, 2014
[between seasons]

Agents of SHIELD  2-19  The Dirty Half Dozen . . . . Apr 28, 2015
Avengers: Age of Ultron . . . . May 1, 2015
Agents of SHIELD  2-20  Scars . . . . May 05, 2015

Ant-Man . . . . July 17, 2015
[between seasons]

Agents of SHIELD  3-19  Failed Experiments . . . . May 03, 2016
Captain America: Civil War . . . . May 6, 2016
Agents of SHIELD  3-20  Emancipation . . . . May 10, 2016


While researching this (e.g. Epguides.com, Wikipedia for release dates), I ran across an article with descriptions of what the interactions were and how much impact the films had on the shows or vice-verca.  So here's a spoilered version with those descriptions added.  Spoilered for those who haven't seen some of them yet and don't want major (or minor) plot points spoiled.
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Post by: Ortega on September 26, 2016, 11:36:02 PM
Like the introduction of Reyes and the Ghost Rider, but overall was kinda underwhelmed at the season premiere. And it has nothing to do with the show in general.  My own thing is the show is dealing with the aftermath of Civil War, and thats what kinda ruins it for me.

I HATED Civil War(It was a good movie, with good action, but a flawed and unwanted premise, at least to me).  I HATED the comic storyline, and i wasn't thrilled when they announced the movie.(The entire book storyline was horrible, and i won't defend that hamfisted Patriot Act allegory)  It basically destroyed the Avengers, and made Stark(who was already an asshole), into a huge asshole, without the charm of previous movies.  It put tension into a hero stable that didn't need it. And now the show has to rake through the muck of all aftermath.  It was interesting during the backhalf of season 1 and 2 for AoS to deal with that, and it did that pretty well.  However, with this season, I reserve judgement if it can.  To me the show is awesome when it does its own thing, it just seems to me when ever the show does something, the movies promptly ignore it.  But when the movies does something, the show is forced to deal with it like a younger brother having to deal with his asshole alcoholic brother's drunken binges.

That's my own personal opinion, but with no new major Captain America or Avengers movie on the horizon, hopefully they can get to tell a more coherent story this season.
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Post by: LucasM on September 27, 2016, 01:52:59 AM
Like the introduction of Reyes and the Ghost Rider, but overall was kinda underwhelmed at the season premiere. And it has nothing to do with the show in general.  My own thing is the show is dealing with the aftermath of Civil War, and thats what kinda ruins it for me.

I HATED Civil War(It was a good movie, with good action, but a flawed and unwanted premise, at least to me).  I HATED the comic storyline, and i wasn't thrilled when they announced the movie.(The entire book storyline was horrible, and i won't defend that hamfisted Patriot Act allegory)  It basically destroyed the Avengers, and made Stark(who was already an asshole), into a huge asshole, without the charm of previous movies.  It put tension into a hero stable that didn't need it. And now the show has to rake through the muck of all aftermath.  It was interesting during the backhalf of season 1 and 2 for AoS to deal with that, and it did that pretty well.  However, with this season, I reserve judgement if it can.  To me the show is awesome when it does its own thing, it just seems to me when ever the show does something, the movies promptly ignore it.  But when the movies does something, the show is forced to deal with it like a younger brother having to deal with his asshole alcoholic brother's drunken binges.

That's my own personal opinion, but with no new major Captain America or Avengers movie on the horizon, hopefully they can get to tell a more coherent story this season.

I completely agree on the comic Civil War (for reasons summarized here (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=29736.msg942635#msg942635)).  I felt that if they had to translate it to film, at least they managed to make it less obvious a "ham-fisted Patriot Act allegory" (as you so perfectly described it).  I agree that it made Tony even more of a narcissist (bordering on sociopath) than already depicted, as he was almost single handedly responsible for the major problem (but took no responsibility for it!) that occurred that was not 'outside forces' - the one that actually gave the name to the Accords (i.e. Ultron, where the first truly major event, the first Avengers film, was an invasion from another dimension, so out of everyone's control and no-one but the Avengers could have solved it).

I would like it if there wasn't as much fallout from the films in Agents of SHIELD as well.  But with the organization government-linked, they get blown with the political wind a lot easier than Daredevil, Jessica Jones, (presumably Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and the Defenders as a whole as well).

Honestly, I feel like it is similar to what happened when J. Michael Straczynski was working on the Spider-Man comic(s).  He was doing some interesting stuff with the 'animal/spider totem/spirit' stuff, and was clearly heading in a particular direction with it.  Then the comic Civil War catastrophe hit, and all of a sudden Spider-Man became mundane.  It didn't surprise me at all that he quit the title VERY shortly after Civil War hit and he was - one can only presume - told, "you have to do x, y, and z in this title, because we need this totally out-of-character stuff to be done by Peter."  So that intended path was wrenched away from JMS (and us) and he was handed a full diaper that he was expected to change, when he'd had no intention of having that baby...  just like Agents of SHIELD.  [Though one would hope that AoS at least gets advance copies of scripts, so they can plan ahead for the stuff hitting the fan, where JMS was likely given very little lead time for the Spider-Man changes required for the comic Civil War.]

But I've digressed (rather a lot)....
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Post by: Pak-Man on September 27, 2016, 07:29:17 AM
Eh, I like the movie tie-ins. The show didn't really even find its feet until Winter Soldier shook things up, and the little touches that make the universe cohesive are a lot of fun. I really don't think  there's been a huge impact on the show since then, either. A helecarrier subplot here, an Asgardian there, a couple "Sokovia Accords" name-checks to justify things the show seemed to already be heading toward. Of course I enjoyed Civil War, as well, so grain of salt.
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Post by: Ortega on September 27, 2016, 09:22:05 AM
It was a few things:

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Hopefully with Reyes and the Ghost Rider, they can have a storyline that won't have any Cinematic tie-ins that can hamper it.

Also, with the expection of Civil War, I've enjoyed the MCU films.  Age of Ultron was enjoyable, and Winter Soldier was fantastic as Hydra was unveiled.  And most of the standalone films are great.
I just think they tie-in them movies, without even the barest mention of the shows in the movies.
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Post by: LucasM on September 27, 2016, 11:19:28 AM
I have liked many of the crossovers.  But to me the core idea of Civil War (comics especially, less so the film) is an irritant.  But far more than the 'hero fights hero' (which is a tired enough trope), I massively dislike the 'government takes control/registers/captures superbeings' trope.  It is a distraction from other events that could be happening, and I think far more often than not, results in repeated disruptions of the flow of the storyline.  At the very least, like the Spider-Man/Civil War comic problem I mentioned in a previous post, it makes the story mundane.  If/when I want to watch something about day-to-day politics, I'll watch Designated Survivor.  I watch comic-related films and TV to get something different, more S-F/fantasy based.


Hopefully with Reyes and the Ghost Rider, they can have a storyline that won't have any Cinematic tie-ins that can hamper it.

Sorry to say, Ortega, but it's been stated that the story of 'the box' will interact heavily with Doctor Strange (http://mcuexchange.com/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-will-tie-in-with-doctor-strange-and-fury-could-be-returning-to-the-show/).  There are what some might consider spoilers in there (including one on a possible future guest appearance).  To me, the article was just a clear warning to not watch any SHIELD following Nov. 4 until after I can manage to see the film.



Also, with the expection of Civil War, I've enjoyed the MCU films.  Age of Ultron was enjoyable, and Winter Soldier was fantastic as Hydra was unveiled.  And most of the standalone films are great.
I just think they tie-in them movies, without even the barest mention of the shows in the movies.

I think the thing limiting the cross-overs is that the two divisions (TV and film) are run by two different people, with the scripts for the films having to be written often well over a year before the film is released (e.g. they're working on Infinity War now).  For that reason, there could never be any kind of timely commenting about anything going on on any of the TV shows unless they are cross-planned well in advance.  The reverse is not at all true, as it is easy for a TV series - being written just a few weeks to a couple months before air-date - to insert a quote about the latest film event (when, presumably, they have access to shooting scripts to plan accordingly).  So I think it is largely practical reasons, rather than aesthetic ones, that prevent most in-film referencing of the TV series events.

But with SHIELD supposedly disbanded since Winter Soldier, and with them working in secret, theoretically no-one below a certain clearance level would know that non-Hydra agents were still active and being hunted (since I think Talbot lumped them all together in the TV press contacts shown on-screen [though I could be mistaken]).  I agree though, that now that they are legit again, they could be known to exist by the film heroes and mentioned accordingly, though any timely mention of plot events from SHIELD seem unlikely, other than those planned out well in advance (e.g. the 'box'/Doctor Strange crossover, and previously Winter Soldier and Civil War).


[[Clearly, with the volume I'm writing, I'm likely seizing and need to STFU.  LATER EDIT: yeah, just edited this for like the fifth or sixth time to hopefully get it 'just right'... definitely seizing.]]
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's Show for Marvel: 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' - The Thread
Post by: Darth Geek on September 27, 2016, 12:03:00 PM
So I think it is largely practical reasons, rather than aesthetic ones, that prevent most in-film referencing of the TV series events.

There's also the budget issue. While Agents of SHIELD has a high budget for a TV show, they don't have the budget to deal with the more elaborate movie based characters. I remember right after the events of Winter Soldier they discussed how SHIELD safehouses had been breached and many of their more dangerous captives had escaped. Including Blonsky! You'd think that recapturing THE ABOMINATION would have been a pretty high priority for them. But no, we don't have the budget to show that.
Title: Re: Joss Whedon's Show for Marvel: 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' - The Thread
Post by: Russoguru on September 27, 2016, 04:31:28 PM
Okay, I tried watching the season premiere of AoS and I was... I hate to say it, but very bored.  :(
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Post by: LucasM on October 20, 2016, 06:33:59 PM
Fun/enjoyed event in the latest ep. :)

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Post by: Edward J Grug III on October 20, 2016, 09:12:47 PM
Yep, we just watched the last two eps and they were excellent.
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Post by: Darth Geek on October 21, 2016, 05:46:45 AM
Fun/enjoyed event in the latest ep. :)

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Yeah, that was an interesting thing to show an "origin" of. I'm just glad they haven't wasted time showing Ghost Rider's origin. They just say he made a deal with the Devil. I wouldn't be surprised if they did later, though.
Oh, and it's very odd that
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Post by: k1 on October 21, 2016, 03:33:03 PM
Fun/enjoyed event in the latest ep. :)

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Yeah, that was an interesting thing to show an "origin" of. I'm just glad they haven't wasted time showing Ghost Rider's origin. They just say he made a deal with the Devil. I wouldn't be surprised if they did later, though.
Oh, and it's very odd that
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I feel like they're saving that til the end of the season maybe. Or
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Post by: LucasM on December 13, 2016, 04:12:31 PM
'Slingshot' micro-series up and running.  Netflix style (all available at one).  Starts here: http://abc.go.com/shows/marvels-agents-of-shield-slingshot/episode-guide/season-01/01-vendetta
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Post by: Jesse412 on December 02, 2017, 11:53:42 PM
Season 5 episodes 1 & 2 "Orientation"

Pretty solid start to the season for this show and I was honestly surprised by
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