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Title: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Russell on July 20, 2012, 03:48:54 AM
Bad, bad news from a Denver-area midnight showing:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/?tag=stack
God dammit! That makes me mad as hell.

On a lighter note I just got out of the movie,... and it is really hard to comment on. Overall I thought it was a damn fine movie. Not as action-oriented as Batman Begins or TDK, but it is drama oriented, a personal, metaphorical journey that i found thrilling. This movie took risks, risks that paid off and I really enjoyed it even though I was trying to remain cynical throughout the movie.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 20, 2012, 04:50:44 AM
Bad, bad news from a Denver-area midnight showing:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/?tag=stack

Live a few minutes away from that theater.  Thankfully I went to a different theater for the Midnight showing.  That theater has a bad reputation.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Artie on July 20, 2012, 05:00:25 AM
Bad, bad news from a Denver-area midnight showing:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/?tag=stack

Live a few minutes away from that theater.  Thankfully I went to a different theater for the Midnight showing.  That theater has a bad reputation.

I don't think a theater having a "bad reputation" has anything to do it when you're talk about mass murder.

I'm not sure I even want to see the movie this weekend now.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Sideswipe on July 20, 2012, 05:47:08 AM
Bad, bad news from a Denver-area midnight showing:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/?tag=stack

Live a few minutes away from that theater.  Thankfully I went to a different theater for the Midnight showing.  That theater has a bad reputation.

Fuck!  I was just at the Town Center mall yesterday too!
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Tripe on July 20, 2012, 05:48:55 AM
Well that's two of you accounted for then.

So many folk in the Denver area on here.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 07:47:12 AM
A particularly creepy and ironic note in all this: one of those killed was sportswriter Jessica Redfield (http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/story/San-Antonio-woman-among-those-killed-in-Colorado/3NNsR-3TfUmX9hio-S3xIw.cspx), whose last blog post was about having narrowly escaped the Eaton Center shooting in Toronto (http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com).
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Compound on July 20, 2012, 09:20:47 AM
...

Obviously I didn't see Nergol's post while I was posting.

It's never a good sign to wake up in the morning and see "Thoughts go out to all those in Denver" as your first post in the Twitter feed.

Geez.

Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Thrifty on July 20, 2012, 10:02:32 AM
A particularly creepy and ironic note in all this: one of those killed was sportswriter Jessica Redfield (http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/story/San-Antonio-woman-among-those-killed-in-Colorado/3NNsR-3TfUmX9hio-S3xIw.cspx), whose last blog post was about having narrowly escaped the Eaton Center shooting in Toronto (http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com).
Well I don't really feel like ponying up the money to go to the theater to see Dark Knight Rises, but I might just do a marathon of the Final Destination movies.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RoninFox on July 20, 2012, 10:52:09 AM
I'm seriously feeling sick to my stomach right now. My wife just showed me on a map on her phone that she used to live a few blocks from that theater in Aurora. She has a friend still in the area who is still trying to figure out if all of his friends are still alive.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: MontyServo on July 20, 2012, 11:03:41 AM
I am still trying to wrap my brain around this.  Going to a movie, especially a midnight screening of a big new film like Dark Knight, is such a... communal experience.  I sat in a theater with several hundred Batman fans last night for over 9 hours watching all three Nolan Batman films.  And we all had a blast doing so.

When I saw the news this morning, it was like a kick in the gut.  It happened on the other side of the country from me in a completely different theater, but I almost felt like the ones who were killed were with me at my showing last night.  Everyone who went out last night to see that movie should be personally affected by this.  We lost some of our own...  to something so senseless.  People who didn't do anything wrong and were just out to enjoy a movie.  It makes me ill just thinking about it.

I do have some thoughts to write on the new movie and the entire Trilogy experience, but will probably take a few days to gather my words.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 20, 2012, 11:20:41 AM
I am still trying to wrap my brain around this.  Going to a movie, especially a midnight screening of a big new film like Dark Knight, is such a... communal experience.  I sat in a theater with several hundred Batman fans last night for over 9 hours watching all three Nolan Batman films.  And we all had a blast doing so.

When I saw the news this morning, it was like a kick in the gut.  It happened on the other side of the country from me in a completely different theater, but I almost felt like the ones who were killed were with me at my showing last night.  Everyone who went out last night to see that movie should be personally affected by this.  We lost some of our own...  to something so senseless.  People who didn't do anything wrong and were just out to enjoy a movie.  It makes me ill just thinking about it.

I do have some thoughts to write on the new movie and the entire Trilogy experience, but will probably take a few days to gather my words.

This, 100%

I'm one of those weirdos who's constantly going to the movie theater, at all hours of the day, by myself or with others. It's that one place where you can just relax, forget about the troubles of the outside world, and settle in to be taken away. It's a place that's supposed to be safe. Something like this happens... I just don't know what to make of it.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 11:26:49 AM
It now appears the Colorado gunman is a Ph. D student in neuroscience who went delusional and started to believe that he was the Joker:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-colorado-shooting-joker/
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 11:27:12 AM
I'm seriously feeling sick to my stomach right now. My wife just showed me on a map on her phone that she used to live a few blocks from that theater in Aurora. She has a friend still in the area who is still trying to figure out if all of his friends are still alive.

One of my best friends for the past 15 years is from Aurora. Luckily, I was chatting online with him last night, so I know he didn't make it to a midnight viewing....  but I have yet to find out if he knew any of the victims, or what the local atmosphere is currently.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Henry88 on July 20, 2012, 11:40:27 AM


they should have just have shot him where he stood
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Starman! on July 20, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Hearing about the shooting this morning just made me feel awful. Shootings always get to me because I can not understand how someone could be so sick as to go to a place filled with innocent people and murder them. This event has actually ruined the movie a little bit for me. I think it's ruined the movie and its image for everyone in a way. Had I tried out to be an extra, I think I would be taking this very personally (even though my part would have been only a second or two long). I still am kind of taking it personally because this asshole shooter did this at the premiere of a BATMAN movie! And not just any Batman movie, but this one.

But of course, the movie and its characters aren't important when lives have been lost in the real world. My deepest thoughts are with the victims and their families.

I'm gong to see the movie tonight btw.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Henry88 on July 20, 2012, 12:11:11 PM
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Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: ColeStratton on July 20, 2012, 12:44:21 PM
I hate waking up to stuff like this. It's just horrifying. 71 people shot, 12 dead. All because they wanted to be among the first to experience a film they've been waiting to see for years.

I'm sure some of you have seen the WORST tweet about it on Twitter, from the brainiacs at Celeb Boutique:

(http://i45.tinypic.com/231grk.jpg)

They eventually took it down, citing that they didn't know WHY Aurora was trending and that their social media team is UK based, but gooood lord...
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 12:46:21 PM
Annnnnnd the media is off to a fine start, finding time to blame Trekkies (http://gawker.com/5927731/) and violent video games (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contributor-rushes-to-blame-video-games-for-co-shooting-teenaged-psychopaths-get-inspired/).
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Invader_quirk on July 20, 2012, 12:46:35 PM
They eventually took it down, citing that they didn't know WHY Aurora was trending and that their social media team is UK based, but gooood lord...

I buy that excuse. Half the time I don't know why the hell these words are trending. Still, yeeowch.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Compound on July 20, 2012, 12:48:21 PM
Just a quick note:

I got a phone call from my folks early this morning. At the time, it was just the standard "Hey. Here's our schedule for tomorrow" call, but I realized a few minutes ago that it was in fact a "Hey. Just checking to see if you're alive and not shot" call.

And on a brighter note, if you're in Denver and wish to donate blood for the victims, Bonfils Blood Center has asked that you come in next week instead. Their blood banks are full at the moment.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: ColeStratton on July 20, 2012, 01:00:02 PM
They eventually took it down, citing that they didn't know WHY Aurora was trending and that their social media team is UK based, but gooood lord...

I buy that excuse. Half the time I don't know why the hell these words are trending. Still, yeeowch.

I buy it as well, but if you're in charge of social media for a company and you're about to weigh in on something trending, all you have to do is CLICK on the hashtag to see what it's all about. Still took them nearly an hour to take the tweet down. Clearly they didn't know what was going on 'cuz no one in their right mind would ever try to capitalize on something like this.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 01:08:57 PM
Annnnnnd the media is off to a fine start, finding time to blame Trekkies (http://gawker.com/5927731/) and violent video games (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contributor-rushes-to-blame-video-games-for-co-shooting-teenaged-psychopaths-get-inspired/).

One GOP rep stated pretty quickly that it was due to the "ongoing attack on Judeo-Christian beliefs" .... I think I'm going to accept that reason, as I find sci-fi and video games too sacred to blame.

I mean, after all... it was Judeo-Christian beliefs that caused the Crusades, so there's more of a history of violence going on there.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 01:10:47 PM
Sometimes The Onion hits a little too close to home:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/sadly-nation-knows-exactly-how-colorado-shootings,28857/
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 01:12:56 PM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/231grk.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DKmFvePmLpI/UAmvL0HP5RI/AAAAAAAABQI/ALsNjImXqrA/s553/Aurora.jpg)
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 20, 2012, 01:19:28 PM
Annnnnnd the media is off to a fine start, finding time to blame Trekkies (http://gawker.com/5927731/) and violent video games (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contributor-rushes-to-blame-video-games-for-co-shooting-teenaged-psychopaths-get-inspired/).

One GOP rep stated pretty quickly that it was due to the "ongoing attack on Judeo-Christian beliefs" .... I think I'm going to accept that reason, as I find sci-fi and video games too sacred to blame.

Yeah, this one's a pretty inspired bit of idiocy (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/20/554761/tea-party-congressman-links-colorado-shooting-to-attacks-on-christianity/?mobile=nc).

This bit especially stands out to me:
Quote
Gohmert also said the tragedy could have been lessened if someone else in the movie theater had been carrying a gun and took down the lone shooter. Istook noted that Colorado laws allow people to carry concealed guns.

"It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?" he asked.

Riiiight. As another commentator on a different site put it, "if there's one thing that could've helped the situation, it's a crossfire in a crowded, panicked, darkened movie theater."
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
Annnnnnd the media is off to a fine start, finding time to blame Trekkies (http://gawker.com/5927731/) and violent video games (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contributor-rushes-to-blame-video-games-for-co-shooting-teenaged-psychopaths-get-inspired/).

One GOP rep stated pretty quickly that it was due to the "ongoing attack on Judeo-Christian beliefs" .... I think I'm going to accept that reason, as I find sci-fi and video games too sacred to blame.

Yeah, this one's a pretty inspired bit of idiocy (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/20/554761/tea-party-congressman-links-colorado-shooting-to-attacks-on-christianity/?mobile=nc).

This bit especially stands out to me:
Quote
Gohmert also said the tragedy could have been lessened if someone else in the movie theater had been carrying a gun and took down the lone shooter. Istook noted that Colorado laws allow people to carry concealed guns.

"It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?" he asked.

Riiiight. As another commentator on a different site put it, "if there's one thing that could've helped the situation, it's a crossfire in a crowded, panicked, darkened movie theater."

Yeah seriously.... That would have been about the worst thing to have happened, especially considering the Kevlar the shooter was wearing.

What also gets me about the whole "due to the attacks on Judeo-Christian" whatever.... THAT implies the shooter was randomly killing a bunch of innocent people in a theater as a DEFENSE of Christianity.  Uhm... how Christian that is!! Yay Jesus!!
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Compound on July 20, 2012, 01:22:29 PM
Annnnnnd the media is off to a fine start, finding time to blame Trekkies (http://gawker.com/5927731/) and violent video games (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contributor-rushes-to-blame-video-games-for-co-shooting-teenaged-psychopaths-get-inspired/).

One GOP rep stated pretty quickly that it was due to the "ongoing attack on Judeo-Christian beliefs" .... I think I'm going to accept that reason, as I find sci-fi and video games too sacred to blame.

And ABC this morning said it was a Tea Party member that did the shooting. However, how about we wait until the bodies of the victims aren't still at the crime scene before we start trying to make political points using their corpses, okay?
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 01:25:36 PM
Hers's a weird thought: maybe it's not guns, or lack of guns, or video games, or movies, or atheists, or Christians, or Trekkies that are to blame. Maybe the guy who did it is to blame. Maybe he just kind of snapped and went delusional and....

What's that? OK, I guess I'll shut up now.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: lassieface on July 20, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
You can't make a political point from this at all. Nobody sane has ever done something like this, so it stands to reason you can't make sense of it.

By the way, who's ready the TSA at their local theatre.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 20, 2012, 01:27:58 PM
Folks will always try to make a political point on this, and they will be moving fast doing it. You practically have to. The longer it takes for the facts to come in, the harder it is to politicize the issue for personal gain (I do believe the "shooter was a member of the tea party" claim has been disproved, for instance). Gotta get while the getting's good. Example (http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/hate-group-leaders-use-colorado-massacre-to-attack-gay-people/news/2012/07/20/44108).

Sidenote: I really, really try not to do a lot of political stuff on this site. Or anywhere, for that matter. Some stuff just angries up the blood, and one such thing is abject, egotistical stupidity in the wake of a devastating tragedy.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Darth Geek on July 20, 2012, 01:32:01 PM
You can't make a political point from this at all. Nobody sane has ever done something like this, so it stands to reason you can't make sense of it.

Bullshit. The guy had some kind of motive and reasoning, regardless of how screwed up it was. I don't beleive (at this time) that those reasons have anything necessarily to do with anything political. And yes, both sides are jumpong to conclusions way too early. But they are pundits and assholes, and that is their jobs.

I am glad they took him alive, so we can find out what that was, and he can be prosecuted and go to jail for his crimes.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Artie on July 20, 2012, 01:46:40 PM
By the way, who's ready the TSA at their local theatre.

That's not going to happen.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: MrTorso on July 20, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Annnnnnd the media is off to a fine start, finding time to blame Trekkies (http://gawker.com/5927731/) and violent video games (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contributor-rushes-to-blame-video-games-for-co-shooting-teenaged-psychopaths-get-inspired/).


I really hate asshats like that, that blame stuff on video games, movies etc.  there are crazy unstable people out there and terrible stuff happens. That is life. Whenever anyone tries to blame games or movies for horrible things I always quote the David cross response to that: "what video games did Hitler play?"
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 02:46:58 PM
Apparently, they're now claiming that the kid thought he was The Joker.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12850048-man-calling-himself-the-joker-kills-12-injures-59-at-dark-knight-rises-screening-in-aurora-colorado-authorities-say?lite
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: k1 on July 20, 2012, 03:06:23 PM
But he dyed his hair red.... So he wasn't a very good Joker...
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: MontyServo on July 20, 2012, 03:08:46 PM
By the way, who's ready the TSA at their local theatre.

That's not going to happen.

I agree.  TSA will not show up at your local movie house anytime soon.  I could see some beefed up security at some of the larger theaters in the bigger cities.  Maybe even something like what they have at some concert venues with a quick step through a metal detector handled by private security.  They were talking on the news here locally about the Sheriff's Office having an increased presence at theaters this weekend (in case of copycats), but the theater I usually go to already has off duty law enforcement hired to be there at night.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 03:11:29 PM
But he dyed his hair red.... So he wasn't a very good Joker...

Yeah, probably one of those people who thinks that if you put on a purple shirt and a black sports coat, dye your hair red and put a lot of black eye shadow on, it makes you "The Joker" . n00b.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: k1 on July 20, 2012, 04:05:31 PM
Finally heard from my non-forum Denver friends.  Everyone's ok. Most didn't go last night (were going tonight) and the ones who did go were at a different theater.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 04:14:20 PM
Finally heard from my non-forum Denver friends.  Everyone's ok. Most didn't go last night (were going tonight) and the ones who did go were at a different theater.

Because that theater sucks and the image on the screen isn't that great and they have sound issues.  That's what my Aurora friend told me at least.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Invader_quirk on July 20, 2012, 04:17:55 PM
I've heard too that it's just a bad area for crime.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: MontyServo on July 20, 2012, 04:18:28 PM
If only Doc were here, I'm sure he'd have a sane and rational response to all of this.

He never did come back did he?  I wonder if they forgot to unban him after his one day time-out.

Maybe he is like Beetlejuice or Bloody Mary and you have to say his name three times to make him appear.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: k1 on July 20, 2012, 04:21:36 PM
Finally heard from my non-forum Denver friends.  Everyone's ok. Most didn't go last night (were going tonight) and the ones who did go were at a different theater.

Because that theater sucks and the image on the screen isn't that great and they have sound issues.  That's what my Aurora friend told me at least.

Its true.  My wife & I saw a movie there one time we were out there.

I've heard too that it's just a bad area for crime.

That part I don't remember too clearly from when we were there.  But then again "bad" for there might "normal" for Brockton, MA.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 20, 2012, 04:55:09 PM
"what video games did Hitler play?"

Grand Theft Auto: Sudetenland. Pfft, where you been?
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: gojikranz on July 20, 2012, 04:58:41 PM
so no one is blaming the gangster squad trailer for the events?  have to say this is sort of what i thought of immediately i wonder how quickly that trailer will be pulled.

i liked dark knight rises but it had its share of problems and was nowhere near dark knight for me.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: k1 on July 20, 2012, 04:59:13 PM
Blog post from one of my friends:

http://fiveironfrenzy.com/site/2012/07/tragedy-and-prayer/

Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 05:08:02 PM
And so it begins - the first quiet, indirect murmurs of the idea of metal detectors and pat-downs at movie theaters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-injured-idUS387141306620120720). Maybe nothing will come of it. I hope so. But now the idea is out there, and ideas, once loosed, don't easily go back in the bottle.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: k1 on July 20, 2012, 05:09:48 PM
And so it begins - the first quiet, indirect murmurs of the idea of metal detectors and pat-downs at movie theaters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-injured-idUS387141306620120720). Maybe nothing will come of it. I hope so. But now the idea is out there, and ideas, once loosed, don't easily go back in the bottle.

I suppose it gives them an excuse to search bags & confiscate snacks.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Russell on July 20, 2012, 05:22:42 PM
And so it begins - the first quiet, indirect murmurs of the idea of metal detectors and pat-downs at movie theaters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-injured-idUS387141306620120720). Maybe nothing will come of it. I hope so. But now the idea is out there, and ideas, once loosed, don't easily go back in the bottle.
I suppose it gives them an excuse to search bags & confiscate snacks.
I would really like to know how a guy in body armor and a GAS mask in addition to makeup on his face along with sneaking in smoke grenades and a gun didn't arouse suspicion from ANYONE?! I'm pretty sure gas masks and body armor(along with joker makeup and RED HAIR) aren't part of any cosplay that remotely has anything to do with Batman, let alone the DC universe.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 05:41:36 PM
BTW, on a related note, check out this sub-story:
http://news.yahoo.com/couple-colo-theater-shooting-escape-baby-toddler-tow-162024554--abc-news-topstories.html

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He said he wondered where Ethan was but realized he could not go back to get him. Rohrs finally jumped over the balcony and ended up outside.

"It just felt like the worst thing ever because my son's still in there," he told ABC News. "My girlfriend is still in there. I'm out here. Who leaves their child there?"

He said Legarreta called him from another phone and he drove back to the theater.

So let me get this straight - this dude took his 3 month old baby to an action movie, at midnight, then lost him when the shooting started, then ditched him and the mother (who was wounded), then left the building and drove the fuck away. But hey, at least he felt bad about it later, and came back to pick them up once the gunman was safely in handcuffs.

It's sick out there and getting sicker.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: MontyServo on July 20, 2012, 05:52:11 PM
And so it begins - the first quiet, indirect murmurs of the idea of metal detectors and pat-downs at movie theaters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-injured-idUS387141306620120720). Maybe nothing will come of it. I hope so. But now the idea is out there, and ideas, once loosed, don't easily go back in the bottle.
I suppose it gives them an excuse to search bags & confiscate snacks.
I would really like to know how a guy in body armor and a GAS mask in addition to makeup on his face along with sneaking in smoke grenades and a gun didn't arouse suspicion from ANYONE?! I'm pretty sure gas masks and body armor(along with joker makeup and RED HAIR) aren't part of any cosplay that remotely has anything to do with Batman, let alone the DC universe.

I was wondering that myself, but just saw a new report that says they think he went in dressed normally, went out the emergency exit at some point before the film started (making sure to not let the door completely shut behind him) where his car was parked just outside.  Then he must have put on his attire, grabbed his weapons and came back in.

AMC theaters announced that they were banning costumes from their theaters effective immediately.  There was a few people dressed up at the screening I was at last night.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Compound on July 20, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
I would really like to know how a guy in body armor and a GAS mask in addition to makeup on his face along with sneaking in smoke grenades and a gun didn't arouse suspicion from ANYONE?!

As mentioned below, Holmes walked in through the emergency exit. There's an open question on whether someone opened it for him or if he left the theater and then came back in. (There's also the question of why the theater didn't react to the door opening. Those exit doors usually have alarms that sound in the office when opened.)
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 20, 2012, 06:07:13 PM
I would really like to know how a guy in body armor and a GAS mask in addition to makeup on his face along with sneaking in smoke grenades and a gun didn't arouse suspicion from ANYONE?!

As mentioned below, Holmes walked in through the emergency exit. There's an open question on whether someone opened it for him or if he left the theater and then came back in. (There's also the question of why the theater didn't react to the door opening. Those exit doors usually have alarms that sound in the office when opened.)

I don't know where you are, but in most theaters I am at in Colorado do not have alarms on those door, as they are often used for exits after the film.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: gbeenie on July 20, 2012, 06:07:58 PM
It now appears the Colorado gunman is a Ph. D student in neuroscience who went delusional and started to believe that he was the Joker:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-colorado-shooting-joker/

Don't take this as a personal attack, Nergol; but can we can the speculation, at least for the time-being? News organizations and political blogs are already trying to make hay of this situation, and their naked opportunism just draws attention away from the fact that a dozen people lost their lives for no good goddamn reason.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: gbeenie on July 20, 2012, 06:15:11 PM
so no one is blaming the gangster squad trailer for the events?  have to say this is sort of what i thought of immediately i wonder how quickly that trailer will be pulled.

The trailer's already officially pulled. Anyone still showing it is just behind the curve.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 06:15:44 PM
I would really like to know how a guy in body armor and a GAS mask in addition to makeup on his face along with sneaking in smoke grenades and a gun didn't arouse suspicion from ANYONE?!

As mentioned below, Holmes walked in through the emergency exit. There's an open question on whether someone opened it for him or if he left the theater and then came back in. (There's also the question of why the theater didn't react to the door opening. Those exit doors usually have alarms that sound in the office when opened.)

I don't know where you are, but in most theaters I am at in Colorado do not have alarms on those door, as they are often used for exits after the film.

From the reports I read, he had a ticket, went in, propped open the door slightly, then left and re-entered with gear.

...and doors like that are used as general exits in most every theater I've ever been in as well.  No alarms, they just let you walk out, or sneak other people in before the film. (as seen on The Simpsons)
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: gbeenie on July 20, 2012, 06:16:31 PM
And so it begins - the first quiet, indirect murmurs of the idea of metal detectors and pat-downs at movie theaters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-injured-idUS387141306620120720). Maybe nothing will come of it. I hope so. But now the idea is out there, and ideas, once loosed, don't easily go back in the bottle.

I suppose it gives them an excuse to search bags & confiscate snacks.

That's what happened at the big chains after 9/11. It didn't last.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Artie on July 20, 2012, 06:54:58 PM
I've heard too that it's just a bad area for crime.

You realize that is completely irrelevant, right?   It's almost is if you are saying the victims should been expecting a mass murder because it's a "bad area"
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Compound on July 20, 2012, 07:45:59 PM
I would really like to know how a guy in body armor and a GAS mask in addition to makeup on his face along with sneaking in smoke grenades and a gun didn't arouse suspicion from ANYONE?!

As mentioned below, Holmes walked in through the emergency exit. There's an open question on whether someone opened it for him or if he left the theater and then came back in. (There's also the question of why the theater didn't react to the door opening. Those exit doors usually have alarms that sound in the office when opened.)

I don't know where you are, but in most theaters I am at in Colorado do not have alarms on those door, as they are often used for exits after the film.

I'm speaking from personal experience from 2 years at AMCs in Denver. The emergency exits don't have audible alarms in the theater when you open them, but there was an alarm. In our case, it triggered an alarm that loudly buzzed at both concession and in the office. (And maybe the booth as well.)  It it went off at any time other than when a film was getting out, we'd be in there ASAP. We might not find whomever came in (and frankly, our managers didn't really want us confronting anyone about it) but we needed to keep the light from coming in from the not-fully closed door and most importantly shut off the incessant buzzing.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Tripe on July 20, 2012, 08:43:05 PM
I've heard too that it's just a bad area for crime.

You realize that is completely irrelevant, right?   It's almost is if you are saying the victims should been expecting a mass murder because it's a "bad area"
That's not what he's saying at all, in both instances in this thread when the reputation of the theatre has been brought up it's been as an explanation why an individual or group of people might have chosen a theatre other than this one to see the film, its a bit of local knowledge, it's not a judgement on the victims just background on the place where the incident occurred. So it isn't completely irrelevant at all.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Sideswipe on July 20, 2012, 08:52:36 PM
That area is wierd, there have been a couple shootings in an appartment complex nearby and the theater itself is practicly across the street from a god damn ADT security monitoring center.  It should be a pretty safe area.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 20, 2012, 09:04:32 PM
That area is wierd, there have been a couple shootings in an appartment complex nearby and the theater itself is practicly across the street from a god damn ADT security monitoring center.  It should be a pretty safe area.

Guy wanted to be caught.  Theater is also a few thousand feet from Aurora Police HQ.  Seeing where his apartment is, I feel fortunate as it was about the same distance from there to the Century 16 theater as it was to the Harkins Theater, which is where I was at.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: MrTorso on July 20, 2012, 09:36:05 PM
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/163262006.html

Here we go....

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SIERRA VISTA, Ariz., (KGUN9-TV) - Police arrested a man Friday after he entered a Cinemark Theater intoxicated and carrying a large backpack, according to Carol Capas with the Cochise County Sheriff's Department.

Capas tells KGUN9 that Michael William Borboa was acting strangely, and startled several patrons in the theater during the Dark Knight Rises movie.

One person confronted Borboa, and then mass hysteria occurred and more than 50 patrons ran from the theater.

Several off-duty border patrol agents tackled Borboa and a deputy removed Borboa from the theater, taking his backpack.

Deputies found alcohol in the backpack.

Borboa was arrested and transported to the CCSO Jail Sierra Vista and was booked on charges of disorderly conduct and threatening and intimidating.

Capas says that the sheriff's department had increased security in response to the mass shooting at the theater in Colorado, and that there were extra deputies in the area at the time of this incident.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Lembach on July 20, 2012, 11:04:42 PM
Taken alive, huh? Well, I can see why I'm not fit for law enforcement. Any decent cop would have ensured he had an "accident" during capture.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Compound on July 20, 2012, 11:49:57 PM
Sigh.

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Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged

Yeah, not going to link to it. Idiot.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: ScottotD on July 21, 2012, 01:08:37 AM
I know this is a very selfish thought process but I really hope he wasn't into computer games, horror movies, rap, metal or any other of the 'scapegoat' entertainment lazy and self-serving politicians blame anytime anything like this happens.   
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: AmandaGal on July 21, 2012, 01:59:47 AM
Checking in to make sure all the CO Rifftrax buddies are ok.  This is just crazy.  I don't think there is any point in trying to find a reason for it.

I was talking to a friend of mine.  I remember my first midnight screening of a movie.  I thought it was so awesome my mom took me out, etc.  I will probably remember it forever.  This experience has just been ruined (not just for the kids at this theater, but any kid who watched the news at all). 
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RVR II on July 21, 2012, 03:54:26 AM
I agree with AmandaGal..
What a shame :(
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Artie on July 21, 2012, 05:27:54 AM
here's a crazy article about how the Colorodo shooting was a staged conspiracy to make Americans afraid or something.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

Maybe he's right, I mean he is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.

But seriously, what a nut job.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 21, 2012, 06:17:30 AM
here's a crazy article about how the Colorodo shooting was a staged conspiracy to make Americans afraid or something.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

Jesus christ, why don't you post some links to birther sites and 9/11 "truth" videos while you're at it?
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: jasimon1 on July 21, 2012, 06:25:45 AM
The sailor missing and presumed dead in this story was one of my sister's best friends in high school. The family is huge so all three of us went to high school with at least 2 of them. We're not a small town by any means but it's all the town is talking about when you go out because there are just so many of them that everyone knows at least one. It's horrible that more than 24 hours later, no one can get answers.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12861792-anxious-for-word-of-missing-moviegoers-some-families-get-the-worst-news?lite
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Thrifty on July 21, 2012, 06:41:47 AM
I don't know where you are, but in most theaters I am at in Colorado do not have alarms on those door, as they are often used for exits after the film.

From the reports I read, he had a ticket, went in, propped open the door slightly, then left and re-entered with gear.[/quote]
I used to do that.  Not for the purposes of smuggling in weapons and armor, but for smuggling in snacks.  I don't do that as much any more, ever since I got me a good pair of candy smuggling pants with huge pockets.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Bob on July 21, 2012, 06:44:44 AM
.....  I don't do that as much any more, ever since I got me a good pair of candy smuggling pants with huge pockets.

I have not entered a movie without a drink or a snack since I was about 9.   My mom taught us to always carry things in movies to eat or drink.  That's the German way!
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: lassieface on July 21, 2012, 09:50:54 AM
.....  I don't do that as much any more, ever since I got me a good pair of candy smuggling pants with huge pockets.

I have not entered a movie without a drink or a snack since I was about 9.   My mom taught us to always carry things in movies to eat or drink.  That's the German way!

Teach me your secrets.

http://www.nextmovie.com/blog/the-dark-knight-rises-costumes-ban/
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Bob on July 21, 2012, 11:51:24 AM
Well, we don't dress up as costumes.  We just wear coats or shorts with big pockets and almost ANYTHING can fit in there.  Just remember to COUGH the same time you open your carbinated can.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Starman! on July 21, 2012, 12:01:26 PM
This tragedy is going to make sneaking in candy and drinks hard to do. Last night I went to see the movie with my sister and mom and we decided not to sneak in anything just in case they checked bags or something. There were a couple of police officers in the theater but other than that nothing was different.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Bob on July 21, 2012, 12:06:49 PM
If you have things that fit in your pockets, what are they going to do, hire dozens of police so search everyone and raise the price of the tickets to $20 each? 

A nut just got lose and there is not much that society can do to stop nuts.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: JimJ on July 21, 2012, 01:15:04 PM
.....  I don't do that as much any more, ever since I got me a good pair of candy smuggling pants with huge pockets.

I have not entered a movie without a drink or a snack since I was about 9.   My mom taught us to always carry things in movies to eat or drink.  That's the German way!

Teach me your secrets.

http://www.nextmovie.com/blog/the-dark-knight-rises-costumes-ban/

Kind of ridiculous considering the guy wasn't in costume, he was in tactical military gear. He also didn't walk in like that, he used the exit door because he knew that someone walking in with a gas mask, helmet, bullet proof vest and 3 guns would raise eyebrows even without a costume ban. I don't do the cosplay thing myself but the people who do show up to the big blockbusters in costume add to the atmosphere and I enjoy it when I see it.  This will just punish innocent people trying to have a good time and do absolutely nothing to stop the kind of attack that happened in Colorado.

Some idiot on my Facebook posted something about how much better the situation would've been if some of the people in the audience had had weapons and in the comments he came dangerously close to blaming the victims for NOT being armed (and kind of implied that we need guns to rise up if government banned guns or cigarettes  :o). Was tempted to comment but just unfriended instead. No point in arguing with people like that.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Tripe on July 21, 2012, 08:25:16 PM
Yes a numbert of my friends have posted things along those lines, like this for example:

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/TripeHoundRedux/Untitled-11.png)

pleased to say that, aside from me, the other two commenter are pretty conservative, my favourite comment is the third one " The hero or heroine taking down the bad guy with one shot happens in the movies, not at the movies."
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 21, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
As I pointed out in the DKR thread, the shooter was also wearing Kevlar... So anyone else being armed and shooting back wouldn't really have the greatest intended affect on him.  Sure, Kevlar doesn't necessarily make him "invincible" but a guy with loads of bullets and tons of Kevlar and a helmet against someone with just a hand-gun.... Doesn't really sound like it would have made any significant difference in the outcome here.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 21, 2012, 09:16:32 PM
As I pointed out in the DKR thread, the shooter was also wearing Kevlar... So anyone else being armed and shooting back wouldn't really have the greatest intended affect on him.  Sure, Kevlar doesn't necessarily make him "invincible" but a guy with loads of bullets and tons of Kevlar and a helmet against someone with just a hand-gun.... Doesn't really sound like it would have made any significant difference in the outcome here.

It sounds like he even had his arms, legs, and neck covered in ballistic fabrics.

Guy is seriously messed up, plans the thing for at least 3 months, was well protected and doesn't run or resist so he wasn't suicidal, I wonder if we will every know that was/is going on in his head?
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: JimJ on July 21, 2012, 09:34:12 PM
Yes a numbert of my friends have posted things along those lines, like this for example:

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/TripeHoundRedux/Untitled-11.png)

pleased to say that, aside from me, the other two commenter are pretty conservative, my favourite comment is the third one " The hero or heroine taking down the bad guy with one shot happens in the movies, not at the movies."

Let's not forget that it wasn't just a darkened cinema, it also happened to be filled with tear gas and a whole lot of terrified people with no gas masks on and the shooter (who had a gas mask) was decked out in Kevlar .  I would imagine even a veteran marksman would have trouble taking out a shooter in conditions like that.  It's never a good idea to try to be a hero (if the guy in the bank robbery example misses, he just turned a routine robbery into a shootout) , but the conditions of this particular shooting seem like the absolute worst time to try it.  I might have to steal that "in the movies, not at the movies" line if that shit pops up on my feed again, that's good.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: losingmydignity on July 22, 2012, 01:58:01 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/opinion/21lethem.html?pagewanted=all
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: gbeenie on July 22, 2012, 02:41:55 PM
Self-importance on parade.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RoninFox on July 22, 2012, 03:17:55 PM
And yes, the Westboro Baptist Douchebags are trying to protest the funerals. Heard from some friends in the area who are going to a counter protest.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Bob on July 22, 2012, 03:27:39 PM
And yes, the Westboro Baptist Douchebags are trying to protest the funerals. Heard from some friends in the area who are going to a counter protest.

Surprised.....and a bit sad......that no ones killed them yet.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: k1 on July 22, 2012, 03:42:24 PM
And yes, the Westboro Baptist Douchebags are trying to protest the funerals. Heard from some friends in the area who are going to a counter protest.

The Baptist church I go to is in NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THOSE LUNATICS.  They give Christians a bad name.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 22, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
And yes, the Westboro Baptist Douchebags are trying to protest the funerals. Heard from some friends in the area who are going to a counter protest.

Surprised.....and a bit sad......that no ones killed them yet.

It sort of speaks highly of the rest of the human race that no one has taken a shot at them. Because we are, as a whole, better than them, and that means no resorting to violence to be rid of them.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: goflyblind on July 22, 2012, 04:00:39 PM
And yes, the Westboro Baptist Douchebags are trying to protest the funerals. Heard from some friends in the area who are going to a counter protest.

The Baptist church I go to is in NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THOSE LUNATICS.  They give Christians a bad name.

they give humans a bad name. :-\
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2012, 04:04:13 PM
And yes, the Westboro Baptist Douchebags are trying to protest the funerals. Heard from some friends in the area who are going to a counter protest.

The Baptist church I go to is in NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THOSE LUNATICS.  They give Christians a bad name.

they give humans a bad name. :-\
Agreed!

And my favorite response to them is the mocking protests, like at Comic Con.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RoninFox on July 22, 2012, 04:27:24 PM
And yes, the Westboro Baptist Douchebags are trying to protest the funerals. Heard from some friends in the area who are going to a counter protest.

The Baptist church I go to is in NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THOSE LUNATICS.  They give Christians a bad name.

I generally don't even call them their full name anymore. Don't want to insult Baptists everywhere by lumping them together. I guess I can just call them the Westboro Assnozzles or words to that effect from now on.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Bob on July 22, 2012, 04:29:19 PM
I doubt anyone with a brain blames baptists for their behavior.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Tripe on July 22, 2012, 04:42:39 PM
Yeah, if you look at their actual beliefs they're barely Christian let alone Baptist.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Sideswipe on July 22, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
Although if you ask what it means to be a christian, you will get somewhere around 30,000 different answers.  They can't keep their shit straight.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Starman! on July 22, 2012, 04:54:28 PM
Counter-protest!!!

(http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2011/03/kevin-smith-sigh-490x367.jpg)
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RVR II on July 22, 2012, 05:09:20 PM
Counter-protest!!!

(http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2011/03/kevin-smith-sigh-490x367.jpg)
:clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Sideswipe on July 22, 2012, 05:11:50 PM
Damn, is that Silent Bob out in front??
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Bob on July 22, 2012, 05:58:48 PM
Damn, is that Silent Bob out in front??

That was my first thought too
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Tripe on July 22, 2012, 05:59:15 PM
No, it's Kevin Smith, though they're often mistaken for one another.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RoninFox on July 22, 2012, 06:28:55 PM
Yup, that was the counter protest when Westboro picketed a screening of Red State. Loved hearing the stories about that.

In this case, I hope there aren't a lot of joke signs or anything like that, and I think they should keep Batman imagery out too. Counter protesting a movie or ComiCon, yeah, let those geeky sarcastic signs fly, but at a funeral it's about half as disrespectful as the real protestors.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Invader_quirk on July 22, 2012, 06:37:46 PM
I would just use blank signs.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 22, 2012, 06:42:35 PM
The "Human Wall" is the way to go for funerals. These folks got it right.

Quote
Aggies came out in force Thursday to build a human wall around a College Station church, hoping to block protestors from Westboro Baptist Church from disrupting a soldier’s funeral.

Lt. Col. Roy Tisdale, 42 and a 1993 A&M grad, died on June 28, when he was shot by another soldier at Fort Bragg during a safety briefing.

“The Westboro Baptist Church, known for protesting soldier’s funerals with anti-gay messages, posted plans to show up at Tisdale’s funeral on their website,” BuzzFeed reported.

Some 650 Aggies formed a “Maroon Wall” around the church.

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/7/5/16/enhanced-buzz-27505-1341521035-3.jpg)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/7/5/16/enhanced-buzz-27094-1341520818-7.jpg)

Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Danecho1967 on July 22, 2012, 08:31:26 PM
I normally don't care much for the Aggies, but they got a big "Gig 'Em" from me for that.  It was a very respectful way to prevent the Westborough dochebags from causing further hurt to a grieving family.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Lembach on July 22, 2012, 11:47:48 PM
I don't get why you don't hear about stories involving Westborough protester beatings or killings.
No one seems to attack those guys. Why?

(http://i.imgur.com/iIW9i.jpg)

btw: I'm not endorsing killing, obviously. But I don't have so much faith in my less stable human brethren.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: ScottotD on July 22, 2012, 11:53:25 PM
I don't get why you don't hear about stories involving Westborough protester beatings or killings.
No one seems to attack those guys. Why?

Most of the adults are lawyers, if you attack them you're funding them.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RoninFox on July 23, 2012, 01:01:21 AM
I don't get why you don't hear about stories involving Westborough protester beatings or killings.
No one seems to attack those guys. Why?

Most of the adults are lawyers, if you attack them you're funding them.

Thats the truth, a lot of people believe that's the entire point of their church, piss people off enough to attack so they can sue.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Lembach on July 23, 2012, 02:31:39 AM
Court is very scary for people that obey the law. People strike each other all the time without knowing each others names. Gangs do drive-byes and no one can identify individuals.
People are crazy! Suing only works if you know who did it.
I was randomly punched by a man on the bus once. Split my lip. I would have loved to take the fucker to court, but the simple fact of the matter is he walked off the bus in the confusion.
Yet you hear NOTHING of these obnoxious twats being accosted.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RoninFox on July 23, 2012, 10:59:37 AM
Court is very scary for people that obey the law. People strike each other all the time without knowing each others names. Gangs do drive-byes and no one can identify individuals.
People are crazy! Suing only works if you know who did it.
I was randomly punched by a man on the bus once. Split my lip. I would have loved to take the fucker to court, but the simple fact of the matter is he walked off the bus in the confusion.
Yet you hear NOTHING of these obnoxious twats being accosted.


This wouldn't be a random situation though, its at an organized event, with a lot of witnesses, likely with police nearby in case things get out of hand.  I have heard stories of them being accosted, and it either ends with a court settlement, or it was done by the police pulling them over before they made it to the funeral and purposefully wasting their time.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Compound on July 23, 2012, 02:02:12 PM
The victims, BTW: http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphic-aurora-dark-knight-victims/
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: JimJ on July 27, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
And the first comedian to make a shitty, unfunny joke about Aurora is....

Dane Cook!

http://www.youtube.com/v/KZATGRjj1G4?version=3&feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 27, 2012, 11:40:41 AM
As if people needed another reason to despise Dane Cook. I think what I find most shocking about this is the fact Dane Cook is still relevant enough to garner media attention.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Bob on July 27, 2012, 11:45:27 AM
As if people needed another reason to despise Dane Cook. I think what I find most shocking about this is the fact Dane Cook is still relevant enough to garner media attention.

Maybe he can find out first hand why he should not make these shit comments.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: JimJ on July 27, 2012, 11:58:20 AM
He'd actually earned a decent amount of good will from me after his Louie appearance (one of my favorite episodes of that show).  I still didn't think he was funny but it was cool of him to do that.  This pretty much wipes that out, so I'm back to despising the piece of shit.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: RoninFox on July 27, 2012, 02:16:44 PM
I actually liked a lot of Dane's stuff in the past, and I've never wanted to jump on the Dane-hating bandwaggon...but shit that's just horrid.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: gbeenie on July 27, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
As if people needed another reason to despise Dane Cook. I think what I find most shocking about this is the fact Dane Cook is still relevant enough to garner media attention.

Unfortunately, tragedies like this tend to bring opportunistic assholes out the woodwork. I remember that shitbird Jack Thompson trying to make the media rounds after the VA Tech shootings.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Tripe on July 27, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
Wait, did Cho play video games or something?
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: gbeenie on July 27, 2012, 09:16:29 PM
Yeah, a little, so of course Jack Thompson had to complete his full-on transformation from Attention Whore to Even-Tiniest-Modicum-of-Relevancy Whore. I wrote about it at the time:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Tripe on July 27, 2012, 09:28:20 PM
Wow, until just a while ago when I read that I wasn't even aware hat he'd have room to wiggle his way inside the story. Astounding.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: MSTJedi on July 27, 2012, 09:43:39 PM
Wow . . . That takes a whole new kind of asshattery. Dude-brah just couldn't let it be.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Compound on August 03, 2012, 05:20:58 PM
Two tech guys will tell Denver area moviegoers, “Tonight, the movie’s on us.”

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In the wake of the Aurora theater shooting, many people are hesitant to return to the box office.

Two Denver area techies are planning a night to help locals take back the movies.

Jason Cole and David Mayer, members of the New Tech monthly tech meetup group, will be purchasing tickets and handing them out at theaters in Aurora and the greater metro area on Saturday, Aug. 11.

“We’re going to go to as many theaters as we can and pay for everyone’s movie tickets,” they say. “Our message is simple: “Tonight, the movie’s on us. Go, enjoy. This isn’t a fundraiser, it’s not a memorial service. Some jerk tried to steal a night of fun from all of us. Tonight, we’re giving it back.”

They’re seeking donations to help pay for the tickets, and volunteers to hand out the free passes. For more information, visit Take Back the Movies.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Aurora.
Post by: Sideswipe on August 03, 2012, 07:14:31 PM
I need to find those guys!