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Title: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 08, 2012, 10:44:04 AM
Inspired by Kete's 103 Movies You Have To See poll, I figured it might be fun to do the same for albums. As with the movies poll, the goal of this thread is to generate a list of albums that should be experienced by everyone at least once in their life. The only qualification for nominating an album is that, for whatever reason, you feel it is important enough to deserve a place on a list of the top 100 must-listen-to albums of all time.

Feel free to make a case for your nominations, or even post a song from the album so people can check out a representative sample. Here is a handy how-to guide (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25404.msg733545#msg733545) for embedding YouTube videos.

Hopefully, the list will serve as a celebration of great music, as well as a way for people to be exposed to music they may not have experienced. If it turns out we get to one-hundred albums and feel we haven't even scratched the surface, we can always keep going.

Here's how it works. There are two phases: Nomination Phase and Voting Phase.

Nomination Phase:
Post your nominations in the thread. Please bold your nominations so they stand out and don't get lost in the shuffle.
One nomination per person, per session.
Please post a YouTube clip of a representative song from the album, and include a statement as to why you believe the album is worthy of a spot on the list.
All nominations are considered, and once we receive ten nominations, the poll will start.
There is no limit on how many times an album can be nominated, but if your nomination doesn't win, let it rest for at least five rounds.
A new nomination session will begin once the previous poll begins.

Voting Phase:
The poll will last for one week.
Everyone gets ten votes per poll.
The top vote recipients from each poll will be immortalized on the All Y'all Need to Hear This!!! list.


Here is the list of all poll activity (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhKdsDgBJU6TdDMxamZ5STk1VE5OaVZUakRWN0dyamc), so you can see whether or not an album has been nominated.


ALL Y'ALL NEED TO HEAR THESE ALBUMS!!!

1. Abraxas - Santana
2. Automatic For The People - R.E.M.
3. Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
4. Moving Pictures - Rush
5. The Beatles a.k.a. "The White Album" - The Beatles
6. Axis: Bold As Love - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
7. Who's Next - The Who
8. Nevermind - Nirvana
9. Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! - Devo
10. True Stories - Talking Heads
11. In The Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson
12. Electric Ladyland - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
13. Paul's Boutique - Beastie Boys
14. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
15. Rio - Duran Duran
16. Elvis - Elvis Presley
17. Synchronicity - The Police
18. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
19. Doolittle - Pixies

Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 08, 2012, 10:53:19 AM
The Beatles (so called "white" album)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on July 08, 2012, 10:57:11 AM
Jay-Z - The Black Album
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Post by: MontyServo on July 08, 2012, 11:00:51 AM
R.E.M. - Automatic For The People

Their best album and one of the best albums of the '90s.

http://www.youtube.com/v/ahJ6Kh8klM4?version=3&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/w-zWXy9R8Dg?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 08, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Oh yeah, please bold your nominations so they stand out and don't get lost in the shuffle.

And can we get this stickied up?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: goflyblind on July 08, 2012, 11:04:33 AM
Jay-Z - The Black Album
The Beatles (so called "white" album)

you could combine these into a single option: dj danger mouse - the grey album.


my nominee: josh ritter - the animal years.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on July 08, 2012, 11:09:30 AM
Jay-Z - The Black Album
The Beatles (so called "white" album)

you could combine these into a single option: dj danger mouse - the grey album.

I almost did because I like that more but I figured the Black Album would get more votes
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 08, 2012, 11:38:38 AM
Santana - Abraxas

I would say this is Santana's most 'in depth' album (most complex sound and composition).  One of only two albums I thought worthwhile enough to upgrade to a gold Mobile Fidelity remaster CD (not that I wouldn't have done so with more than two CDs, it's just they never offered more than two I thought worth it [the other gold CD I bought being Dark Side of the Moon]).

For this 'clip': Just amazingly beautiful, flowing music, while still having huge amounts of power to it.
[Suggest closing one's eyes while listening.]
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/POL7RDoNAFs

Or, for the whole album:
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/qfQK4eihCIs
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: wurwolf on July 08, 2012, 12:40:25 PM
I'll go obvious...

Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on July 08, 2012, 01:07:36 PM
All you need is now - Duran Duran
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on July 08, 2012, 01:13:53 PM
Don't really listen to albums but:

Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of War of the Worlds.

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/lqvwxvCOSH4

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/0QAf5aE-YMw

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/_cBp6gi_G2Y

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/ID8XMLTB-GE
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 08, 2012, 02:02:42 PM
Wow. I don't know where to start.

Before this gets going, though, I have a thought: What if rather than ranking the suggested albums, we each had a large number of votes and each nominee that gets above a certain number of votes gets on the list, regardless of how many or how few winners there are. That way, we wouldn't have as many split votes, and we wouldn't have to choose between famous and obscure.

Just a thought. Oh and also, shouldn't the poll last at least a week? Seems like there's far less chance that people will have heard the other entries, and I, for one, would like the time to listen to all of them before voting.

B.B. King — Indianola Mississippi Seeds: The best album from the world's best known blues artist. This album has the most variety of any blues album I've heard, from slow, "Woke up this morning" blues, to swinging dance grooves. Lucille wails in its trademark piercing, pure, electric notes while a full brass and string ensemble backs 'her' up. ...Seeds contains such gems as "Chains and Things," "Ask Me No Questions (And I'll Tell You No Lies)," and "Hummingbird."

It also has one of the best album covers.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: MontyServo on July 08, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Just a thought. Oh and also, shouldn't the poll last at least a week? Seems like there's far less chance that people will have heard the other entries, and I, for one, would like the time to listen to all of them before voting.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.  Give us time to listen to all of the entries (if we so desire).  I would attempt to do this with each poll.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: wurwolf on July 08, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
All you need is now - Duran Duran

And not Rio?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 08, 2012, 03:41:52 PM
What if rather than ranking the suggested albums, we each had a large number of votes and each nominee that gets above a certain number of votes gets on the list, regardless of how many or how few winners there are. That way, we wouldn't have as many split votes, and we wouldn't have to choose between famous and obscure.

So, everyone would get ten votes? What would be a reasonable qualifying number? Maybe we should do a few rounds and see how many people are voting per round, and then make it a minimum percentage.

Quote
Oh and also, shouldn't the poll last at least a week? Seems like there's far less chance that people will have heard the other entries, and I, for one, would like the time to listen to all of them before voting.

I wonder how many have the time or the inclination to go get the albums and listen to them, but okay. I could see this turning into more of a listening club, anyway. However, I think people should include a video of what they think is the best song off the album, and maybe write at least a sentence or two about why they believe the album should be included. Before I go around getting albums, I'd like to at least hear a representative sample. I'm not gonna track something down that I know I'm not gonna like.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 08, 2012, 03:49:12 PM
So, everyone would get ten votes? What would be a reasonable qualifying number? Maybe we should do a few rounds and see how many people are voting per round, and then make it a minimum percentage.

I would think 7 or 8 or so. I don't think it needs to be higher than that, anyway—if we don't have enough voters to get up to that, it would need to be lowered, of course.

I wonder how many have the time or the inclination to go get the albums and listen to them, but okay. I could see this turning into more of a listening club, anyway. However, I think people should include a video of what they think is the best song off the album, and maybe write at least a sentence or two about why they believe the album should be included. Before I go around getting albums, I'd like to at least hear a representative sample. I'm not gonna track something down that I know I'm not gonna like.

What do you guys think?

Good idea. I'll go back and add links to my post.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 08, 2012, 04:46:17 PM
Moving Pictures - Rush

In my opinion, one of the top twenty albums of all time. The musicianship on this album is phenomenal, the lyrics are well written, and the songs are just great. This was Rush at their peak. I think regardless of whether or not you're into progressive rock, this album can be appreciated on at least a couple levels.

http://www.youtube.com/v/FAvQSkK8Z8U?version=3&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/2LmIOg33oPo?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MontyServo on July 08, 2012, 05:57:13 PM
Hey what happened to the poll?

Never mind.  It is back now.  It disappeared for me for a sec.

Time to get to listening to some tracks.  Lots of stuff can be found streaming online via Youtube or other sources, so it is possible to at least listen to a great deal of these albums.  But please present some deep tracks from your selections.  Everyone knows the hits, it is the deeper stuff that makes these albums (mine at least in particular) classics.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 08, 2012, 05:59:16 PM
Sorry, I had to delete the poll to change the settings so people can change their votes. This is so you can either vote a little at a time, or all at once. Just remember, that when you go to modify your vote, you have to select everything you've voted for in the past.

For the one person who already voted, please vote again.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 08, 2012, 06:44:33 PM
[After losing what little progress in functioning I've made in the last week with the Abraxas post,] I'll be blunt: if there aren't at least links to tunes off of albums, I don't have the functioning to go looking for nominees.  So for those not embedding either YouTube, or a link to an audio-only source, if I haven't heard what you are nominating yet, I won't before voting.

I suspect there are others who, for different reasons, won't bother looking if not presented with SOMEthing as a sample.  [Which is why I went back and figured out the problem I was having with the embedding for Abraxas on the first page.]


But please present some deep tracks from your selections.  Everyone knows the hits, it is the deeper stuff that makes these albums (mine at least in particular) classics.

I agree with the sentiment on "deep tracks", as I often think the 'non-hits' are the better music on albums.  And, if the 'non-hits' are thought worthless by the listener, basically the album is also.

However I disagree with the "Everyone knows the hits"; I've gone out of my way to not listen to 'Top 20' stations, or even mainstream radio since I was probably 13 or so.  [WXRT in the 70s and early 80s (when it still played the unusual) in Chicago, WDET in the late 80s-to-whenever-Ann-Delisi-left in the Detroit area.]  My musical taste seldom crosses paths with mainstream music.  So for many artists I've never heard the 'hits'; for quite a few, I've never heard anything by them.
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 08, 2012, 06:59:14 PM
However I disagree with the "Everyone knows the hits"; I've gone out of my way to not listen to 'Top 20' stations, or even mainstream radio since I was probably 13 or so.  [WXRT in the 70s and early 80s in Chicago, WDET in the late 80s-to-whenever-Ann-Delisi-left in the Detroit area.]  My musical taste seldom crosses paths with mainstream music.  So for many artists I've never heard the 'hits'; for quite a few, I've never heard anything by them.

Also, for me, an album should be listened to straight through to really be judged. There are some albums on which every song is good that don't hold up together in the order they are arranged. Take The Shins' Wincing the Night Away. I always got bored by it in the second half because they put their 4 best songs first. Once I realized that I actually did enjoy each of the songs separately, I rearranged the tracks in a playlist and now it's enjoyable throughout.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on July 08, 2012, 07:43:32 PM
Ok, I promise not to nominate too many U2 albums. ;)

For the next round though, I'll nominate Achtung Baby - U2. My favorite album of all time.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 08, 2012, 08:14:35 PM
Ok, I promise not to nominate too many U2 albums. ;)

Ha, I as thinking of nominating this:
(http://www.science.widener.edu/~schultz/temp6/zepbox1.JPG)

Really, it's just a large, box shaped, album, isn't it?  ;D 8)

(http://www.science.widener.edu/~schultz/temp6/zepbox2.jpg)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 08, 2012, 09:12:30 PM
If I had to pick one, I'd go with Physical Graffiti. Houses of the Holy is also great.

[EDIT} Forgot about 4. That's a classic.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: goflyblind on July 09, 2012, 04:48:23 AM
just for you, lucas. everyone else can kiss my fat, hairy butt. :P

http://www.youtube.com/v/bq1iMPd1Y0o

http://www.youtube.com/v/7Zx_nYrBoNE

http://www.youtube.com/v/Tgwuf-nYLrU
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on July 09, 2012, 05:56:18 AM
Crap, I'm iPhone only for the next few days so can't link videos
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: wurwolf on July 09, 2012, 07:25:26 AM
Do I really need to link songs from Dark Side of the Moon?
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Post by: lassieface on July 09, 2012, 07:46:08 AM
I'm going to suck at this thread so much. The last album I bought was the the soundtrack to some Mass Effect 2 DLC.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 09, 2012, 08:29:05 AM
Do I really need to link songs from Dark Side of the Moon?

There are a few albums that probably get a pass on this. It's like the VIP list that gets you into the real party in the back room of the club.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: gojikranz on July 09, 2012, 09:39:53 AM
well these will be some interesting polls. I will nominate what i consider the best album out there

Yes Close to The Edge

three songs all great in their own way not to mention lovely artwork which is a part of albums that we should not forget about.


http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/r0HnIr6jYWU

Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: gojikranz on July 09, 2012, 09:46:01 AM
Ok, I promise not to nominate too many U2 albums. ;)

Ha, I as thinking of nominating this:
(http://www.science.widener.edu/~schultz/temp6/zepbox1.JPG)

Really, it's just a large, box shaped, album, isn't it?  ;D 8)

(http://www.science.widener.edu/~schultz/temp6/zepbox2.jpg)


this is better...

(http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/blog_img/archives/2008_12_26_zeppelin_definite_box.jpg)
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 09, 2012, 10:12:56 AM
this is better...
(http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/blog_img/archives/2008_12_26_zeppelin_definite_box.jpg)

I already had all the full size LPs, so I didn't have a need for the mini-replicas when I decided to get them on CD.

But that is the set to get if you don't have the LPs, so you get all the artwork.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on July 09, 2012, 10:15:58 AM
Thoughts on eras or genres you think are going to do well and/or badly here? 
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: wurwolf on July 09, 2012, 10:21:38 AM
Thoughts on eras or genres you think are going to do well and/or badly here? 

Folk or cultural music, from just about any country.
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 09, 2012, 10:46:13 AM
Thoughts on eras or genres you think are going to do well and/or badly here? 

Folk or cultural music, from just about any country.

will do badly, I assume you mean. But that's kind of a given because that sort of thing is rarely put into a non-compilation album. For similar reasons, everything '50s and earlier will be at a disadvantage as well.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: wurwolf on July 09, 2012, 11:06:19 AM
Thoughts on eras or genres you think are going to do well and/or badly here? 

Folk or cultural music, from just about any country.

will do badly, I assume you mean. But that's kind of a given because that sort of thing is rarely put into a non-compilation album. For similar reasons, everything '50s and earlier will be at a disadvantage as well.

Yes, will do badly. I should have specified, sorry.
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Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on July 09, 2012, 12:23:13 PM
My first thought was Automatic for the People.  But its already nominated.  Growing up, it was one of the few "current" CDs both me and my mother could enjoy together.  And Everybody Hurts still makes me tear up.

For the next poll I nominate Nevermind by Nirvana.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 09, 2012, 12:27:00 PM
I missed out on the movie one, but I'll try not to miss out on this:

My nomination for the next vote:

Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! - DEVO

This is easily the best Devo album of all, as much as I like their other work.  It might not be for all tastes, but it's just fantastic.
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 09, 2012, 12:28:11 PM
Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! - DEVO

I've been meaning to buy that for a long time
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 09, 2012, 12:29:38 PM
Sorry, I had to delete the poll to change the settings so people can change their votes.

Um... Did you, though? I don't see the button...
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 09, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
Thoughts on eras or genres you think are going to do well and/or badly here?

Folk or cultural music, from just about any country.

will do badly, I assume you mean. But that's kind of a given because that sort of thing is rarely put into a non-compilation album. For similar reasons, everything '50s and earlier will be at a disadvantage as well.

Yes, will do badly. I should have specified, sorry.

I agree with wurwolf and Asbestos Bill on their predictions.

Sadly, I think my two favorite genres will be likely to do poorly: fusion jazz (esp. from the 70s) and what I call 'Westernized World' music (because the simpler label 'world music' includes the straight 'folk or cultural music' too).  'Westernized World' adapts world instruments and 'cultural music' to fit more with Western musical styles like jazz (e.g. most of Bill Laswell's output, AfroCelt Sound System, etc.).

I also think classical will be difficult to get on the list (though not impossible), because there are so many well-done versions of most of the best pieces (I mean really: how many times has Beethoven's 5th or 9th been recorded?  Now try and get any consensus on which is the best of all of them.)

What I think will do better?  More mainstream music prior to internet music access (i.e. anything that could have been had for free on a radio).  Also 'alternative' music, because it too could be found free to listen to (though with a bit more difficulty) and would be more likely to be listened to by others who found pop/light rock not completely to their liking.


[I am going to have to be very careful here, or this thread will keep me malfunctioning, because of my passion for music. :-\ ]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 09, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
Sorry, I had to delete the poll to change the settings so people can change their votes.

Um... Did you, though? I don't see the button...

It was there yesterday. *sigh*

Well, fuck, whaddya wanna do? How about we declare three winners and carry over the nominations with five and six votes? Of course, who's to say the poll isn't just gonna fuck us again? Goddamit.
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Post by: wurwolf on July 09, 2012, 12:50:23 PM
I think they will be difficult to get on the list but not impossible, depending on how they're presented. I'm not a musicologist, but some of my favorites that I plan on nominating are representative of American music history (as well as being a joy to listen to). I've got a couple of Doc Watson and Frank Sinatra albums in mind, and also someone to represent the big band era (still trying to decide between Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey, Harry James, Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and so on). Music like that is important to our history and I'd like to see it remembered.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 09, 2012, 12:52:17 PM
Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! - DEVO

I've been meaning to buy that for a long time

I love it.  I will admit that it isn't their most accessible album but it is artistically their best and most influential.  If you are new to Devo, I'd either recommend Freedom of Choice or their last album Something for Everybody.  Are We Not Men is more stripped down or rather yet to be "overproduced."  But I don't mean overproduced as a bad thing: that's kind of the point since their message is about better tech with less substance.  Something for Everyone probably has my favourite use of auto-tuning (and it is heavily that) outside of Adventure Time.  You don't have to even pay attention to the messages of the songs to enjoy them, since they all have neat time signatures and hooks.

Best songs from Are We Not Men? would include Space Junk, Gut Feeling, Uncontrollable Urge and Mongoloid.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 09, 2012, 12:53:01 PM
I think they will be difficult to get on the list but not impossible, depending on how they're presented. I'm not a musicologist, but some of my favorites that I plan on nominating are representative of American music history (as well as being a joy to listen to). I've got a couple of Doc Watson and Frank Sinatra albums in mind, and also someone to represent the big band era (still trying to decide between Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey, Harry James, Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and so on). Music like that is important to our history and I'd like to see it remembered.

Though I admit I probably wouldn't vote for them due to my ignorance, I am in favour of that.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 09, 2012, 12:59:34 PM
I think they will be difficult to get on the list but not impossible, depending on how they're presented. I'm not a musicologist, but some of my favorites that I plan on nominating are representative of American music history (as well as being a joy to listen to). I've got a couple of Doc Watson and Frank Sinatra albums in mind, and also someone to represent the big band era (still trying to decide between Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey, Harry James, Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and so on). Music like that is important to our history and I'd like to see it remembered.

I will likely nominate a Benny Goodman at some point.  I agree: those you mention are important historically and need to be remembered and heard by a larger crowd.  [Much like the 'mainstream classic' v. 'obscure jem' choices sometimes made on the '103 Films' thread.]

[EDIT post-wurwolf's 'Like', just so 'Like'ing this part isn't automatically attributed to her: I am not a musicologist either (though earlier in life I did do as much research as I could into bands I liked, to find out how they worked/composed, what their thoughts about their work were, etc., it was all informal [things like 'Down Beat' magazine, books/mags on Hendrix, etc.]), but, regardless of limited formal training (a single 'Music History: 20th Century' class [<= this ONE class being the ONLY formal academic learning about music], but my parents were heavily into classical (and father into 30s-50s jazz and mother who took my brother and I to see The Beatles when I was 7 and the Stones for my 8th birthday present (my request), assorted lessons on multiple instruments, and playing viola in Jr High and High School orchestra for a total of 5 years [none of which give academic knowledge]), like the title to (one of?) Vincent Price's books on art, "I Like What I Know", and music has a powerful effect on me (with a good portion of my favorites: head-to-toe goosebumps, into the music so much it feels like I'm having an out-of-body experience, etc.). ]

  [[Yup, past my limits: that whole bracketed/added 'edit' thing was one frickin' convoluted sentence I can't think well enough to break up into its component parts and keep the relevant parts together (tried and failed).  :-\ ]]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MontyServo on July 09, 2012, 02:41:48 PM
Sorry, I had to delete the poll to change the settings so people can change their votes.

Um... Did you, though? I don't see the button...

It was there yesterday. *sigh*

Well, fuck, whaddya wanna do? How about we declare three winners and carry over the nominations with five and six votes? Of course, who's to say the poll isn't just gonna fuck us again? Goddamit.

Well I haven't had a chance to listen to that Duran Duran album yet so I haven't voted yet.  (Got access to all ten albums so should be able to listen before the polls close.)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 09, 2012, 02:57:26 PM
It was there yesterday. *sigh*

Well, fuck, whaddya wanna do? How about we declare three winners and carry over the nominations with five and six votes? Of course, who's to say the poll isn't just gonna fuck us again? Goddamit.

Well I haven't had a chance to listen to that Duran Duran album yet so I haven't voted yet.  (Got access to all ten albums so should be able to listen before the polls close.)

Yeah, might as well at least let it finish. Maybe a mod could alter it though?

Also, for next poll: Blondie — Parallel Lines

I've never been much into Pop, partially because I'm often unsure what qualifies (seriously, one of the most useless distinctions), but I don't think I'm alone in my suspicion that this is one of the premiere albums of the genre (and another of the best covers). I'll embed songs later, but the whole thing is just fun from start to finish. And of course everyone knows "Heart of Glass."
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: wurwolf on July 09, 2012, 03:49:23 PM
[EDIT post-wurwolf's 'Like', just so 'Like'ing this part isn't automatically attributed to her: I am not a musicologist either (though earlier in life I did do as much research as I could into bands I liked, to find out how they worked/composed, what their thoughts about their work were, etc., it was all informal [things like 'Down Beat' magazine, books/mags on Hendrix, etc.]), but, regardless of limited formal training (a single 'Music History: 20th Century' class [<= this ONE class being the ONLY formal academic learning about music], but my parents were heavily into classical (and father into 30s-50s jazz and mother who took my brother and I to see The Beatles when I was 7 and the Stones for my 8th birthday present (my request), assorted lessons on multiple instruments, and playing viola in Jr High and High School orchestra for a total of 5 years [none of which give academic knowledge]), like the title to (one of?) Vincent Price's books on art, "I Like What I Know", and music has a powerful effect on me (with a good portion of my favorites: head-to-toe goosebumps, into the music so much it feels like I'm having an out-of-body experience, etc.). ]

  [[Yup, past my limits: that whole bracketed/added 'edit' thing was one frickin' convoluted sentence I can't think well enough to break up into its component parts and keep the relevant parts together (tried and failed).  :-\ ]]

I would have liked it anyway, because I totally get those feelings about music, too. :)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MontyServo on July 09, 2012, 06:13:08 PM
Lemme get my next pick in first thing:

Talking Heads - True Stories
The companion (but not soundtrack) album to the film of the same name.  In my opinion, a magical album with some really great songs.

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Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MontyServo on July 09, 2012, 06:34:16 PM
OK a few comments on what I have listened to so far.

Duran Duran - I listened to this, what I am guessing was their latest album. It was OK.  I love '80s music and love that classic artists are still releasing new music.  There were a few tracks that sounded like they could have been on Rio or Seven and The Ragged Tiger, which was kinda cool.  But I can't see this being a must listen to album.  So no vote from me.

The Beatles - One of the few Beatles albums that is a struggle for me to get through.  I just prefer Revolver or Help! as my favorite Beatles albums to this one. So no vote from me.

Josh Ritter - Had never heard of him before and was really surprised by how much I enjoyed this album.  I will definitely keep him on my radar and listen to more by him.  On the fence on whether to vote for this.  Might have to give it another listen.

Pink Floyd, Rush, and Santana - Automatic votes from me.  Don't need to listen to them again (but will.)

R.E.M. - Obviously a vote from me since I suggested it.  My favorite by them, just about a perfect album.

Still have to listen to Jay-Z, Jeff Wayne, B.B. King.  Will get back to you on them.  I think I may have heard that War of the Worlds album before.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 09, 2012, 06:48:05 PM
I voted for Abraxas and DSOTM.

I also prefer Help!, Rubber Soul, and Revolver over anything later by the Beatles.... ESPECIALLY the white album.  It has some great songs, but as a whole, it's disjointed and a mess of an album.  I've always considered it their "Ummagumma"
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 09, 2012, 07:42:27 PM
If I was functioning better, I'd try to do what Monty did, as I think that description of what HE heard when listening is a great insight into Monty's taste.  That's one of the fun things about lists/voting like this.  :)

  [I agree with the 'white album' comments (Monty's, TheUnabeefer's, etc.); it seems more disjointed to me than Abbey Road, which was the last stuff they recorded (tho not the last released, obviously), and Abbey Road was recorded when the BAND was disjointed and largely disconnected from one-another.]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 09, 2012, 07:49:18 PM
Oh, and I for some reason didn't notice Automatic For The People until after I voted....
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 09, 2012, 07:50:57 PM
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I would have liked it anyway, because I totally get those feelings about music, too. :)

There are very few people in my life (if any) who have understood that reaction of mine to music.  Nice to know another. :)

[With the disclaimer: I hate people misquoting or misattributing things I say, so wanted to make it clear you hadn't seen that before 'Like'-ing it.  ...So people wouldn't think you were maybe 'Like'-ing the fact that I was messed up that bad or something. ;) ]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: wurwolf on July 09, 2012, 08:15:55 PM
It may be a little different for me than for you, but I understand that music is often a completely moving experience on its own -- without the aid of sight or touch, but simply by being heard. Just this afternoon I was walking down 8th Avenue and "Black Mountain Rag" by Doc Watson showed up on my mp3 player and, as hot as it was, I got goosebumps because of the way he could play a guitar, the dips and turns the song took, and the way a particular set of notes went together. I find stuff like that amazing, not just because a musician is especially skilled but also at the craft that goes into making a song. A lot of Bach pieces totally slay me because they're so deftly woven and have a near mathematical precision.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 09, 2012, 08:19:33 PM
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I would have liked it anyway, because I totally get those feelings about music, too. :)

There are very few people in my life (if any) who have understood that reaction of mine to music.

There are songs I can get chills from just remembering. I am very distractable in general, however, and find it hard to concentrate to music for extended periods. I'm somewhat embarrassed by that actually.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 09, 2012, 08:33:44 PM
It may be a little different for me than for you, but I understand that music is often a completely moving experience on its own -- without the aid of sight or touch, but simply by being heard. Just this afternoon I was walking down 8th Avenue and "Black Mountain Rag" by Doc Watson showed up on my mp3 player and, as hot as it was, I got goosebumps because of the way he could play a guitar, the dips and turns the song took, and the way a particular set of notes went together. I find stuff like that amazing, not just because a musician is especially skilled but also at the craft that goes into making a song. A lot of Bach pieces totally slay me because they're so deftly woven and have a near mathematical precision.

Yes.  There are a number of tunes that are so exquisitely PERFECT that I tear up just because of their perfection; every note in its ideal place: played with precision, and with grace.  [OK: fuck it, I just HAD to rhyme there!]  It often feels like what I hear about people's religious experiences.

Jimi Hendrix once said [paraphrasing, because I can't remember where the hell I saw it, so can't get the exact quote  :P ]:
"The listener of a piece of music should put as much effort into listening to the piece of music, as the artist put into creating it."
I agree with that; and I feel if music doesn't 'stand up' to that much attention, it is seldom worth listening to at all.


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I would have liked it anyway, because I totally get those feelings about music, too. :)

There are very few people in my life (if any) who have understood that reaction of mine to music.

There are songs I can get chills from just remembering. I am very distractable in general, however, and find it hard to concentrate to music for extended periods. I'm somewhat embarrassed by that actually.

Just to clarify: the 'Like' was NOT to the 'embarrassment' part of the post, 'k? :)  And, yes, just remembering is enough to get the systemic reaction... nice to know another person with that level of responsiveness to music.


[Writing-wise: I need to 'shut the hell up'... like I said, this thread could single-handedly keep me messed up if I continue to write extensively in it.  But it is so hard not to share about music with like-minded people, since they've been so rare in my life.]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on July 10, 2012, 09:03:49 AM
Some of the best CDs I've had are best of compilations.

Can we submit these?  Like the Eagles, Tom Petty and Joan Jett's Fit to Be Tied...these are three of my faves.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 10, 2012, 11:34:05 PM
Some of the best CDs I've had are best of compilations.

Can we submit these?  Like the Eagles, Tom Petty and Joan Jett's Fit to Be Tied...these are three of my faves.

No. Greatest hits albums aren't really in the spirit of this endeavor. This is for albums that were originally created by the artists, with the overall beginning-to-end listening experience in mind.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 12, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
Seriously, can someone fix the "change vote" thing?  I didn't realize till the last second that I could change my vote and that I could actually just LISTEN TO ALL OF THESE ALBUMS ON YOUTUBE.  Still gonna listen to them all, though, but I think I made the right choice, if I could only pick one.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 12, 2012, 10:15:09 AM
I dunno. We might have start a flame war to even get a mod to come into this thread.

So on that note, Kirk isn't fit to lick the sweat off Picard's balls!
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 12, 2012, 10:37:47 AM
I dunno. We might have start a flame war to even get a mod to come into this thread.

So on that note, Kirk isn't fit to lick the sweat off Picard's balls!

No no no, Mike is way better than Joel!
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 12, 2012, 10:55:38 AM
I dunno. We might have start a flame war to even get a mod to come into this thread.

So on that note, Kirk isn't fit to lick the sweat off Picard's balls!

No no no, Mike is way better than Joel!

<humorlessreply>You'll get no argument from me.</humorlessreply>
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 12, 2012, 11:11:31 AM
I dunno. We might have start a flame war to even get a mod to come into this thread.

YEAH!
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Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Pak-Man on July 14, 2012, 01:33:35 AM
You have summoned me with your flaming!

Kirk is best. Mike is best. Fire will cleanse the earth of all evil.


Also, you can change votes now. :^)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 14, 2012, 09:00:57 AM
Okay. I'm finally acquiring the albums I have not yet heard...

And only five for Indianolla Mississippi Seeds?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 14, 2012, 11:05:12 AM
Okay. I'm finally acquiring the albums I have not yet heard...
And only five for Indianolla Mississippi Seeds?

Well, I'm one of those five.  Though I've heard quite a bit since my brother has always been into it, personally I'm not much for 'classic' blues [as opposed to blues-rock, like Hendrix, Zeppelin's first couple, etc.].  But I dug around and found that album and it is exceptional.  (An aside: It would've been recorded about 3-4 years before I saw Mr. Waters at a party I went to in high school.  He was a neighbor of the people throwing the party ['party'=beer, pot, whatever] and he just 'dropped by' and was playing by himself with a small amp, sitting on a folding chair on the grass in the people's back yard.  So we were able to go up and talk to him a bit.  If I remember correctly I asked him if he wanted to smoke a joint with us and he courteously declined.)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 14, 2012, 11:45:04 AM
As things go along if there are some types of music not getting in maybe there should be some rounds dedicated to them.  Like an R&B, or Classical round.  The Blues Brothers movie got me into R&B a bit, then Pat Benatar did a pretty cool R&B album (True Love) and I went looking for the originals.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 14, 2012, 01:05:55 PM
Okay. I'm finally acquiring the albums I have not yet heard...
And only five for Indianolla Mississippi Seeds?

Well, I'm one of those five.  Though I've heard quite a bit since my brother has always been into it, personally I'm not much for 'classic' blues [as opposed to blues-rock, like Hendrix, Zeppelin's first couple, etc.].  But I dug around and found that album and it is exceptional.  (An aside: It would've been recorded about 3-4 years before I saw Mr. Waters at a party I went to in high school.  He was a neighbor of the people throwing the party ['party'=beer, pot, whatever] and he just 'dropped by' and was playing by himself with a small amp, sitting on a folding chair on the grass in the people's back yard.  So we were able to go up and talk to him a bit.  If I remember correctly I asked him if he wanted to smoke a joint with us and he courteously declined.)

I don't know the Mr. Waters you're talking about, but that sounds like a cool story.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 14, 2012, 06:14:28 PM
Okay. I'm finally acquiring the albums I have not yet heard...
And only five for Indianolla Mississippi Seeds?

Well, I'm one of those five.  Though I've heard quite a bit since my brother has always been into it, personally I'm not much for 'classic' blues [as opposed to blues-rock, like Hendrix, Zeppelin's first couple, etc.].  But I dug around and found that album and it is exceptional.  (An aside: It would've been recorded about 3-4 years before I saw Mr. Waters at a party I went to in high school.  He was a neighbor of the people throwing the party ['party'=beer, pot, whatever] and he just 'dropped by' and was playing by himself with a small amp, sitting on a folding chair on the grass in the people's back yard.  So we were able to go up and talk to him a bit.  If I remember correctly I asked him if he wanted to smoke a joint with us and he courteously declined.)

I don't know the Mr. Waters you're talking about, but that sounds like a cool story.

Shit!  Brain still shorting way the fuck out... thinking 'B.B. King' but my memory brought up that Muddy Waters experience.  >:(  I only saw B.B. King (around that same time) at a regular outdoor 'fest'-type concert (i.e. with hundreds of people there, and a number of other bands playing through the day) with my bro and a bunch of each of our friends.

  [Oh, and the "Mr. Waters" in the prior post was a mild attempt at humor... I know his name is actually McKinley Morganfield, not "Muddy Waters".]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 15, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
For the next round, I nominate something that may fit the 'does anyone really NOT know this?' category (like 'Dark Side of the Moon' did):

The Who - Who's Next


But, just in case there are people who haven't heard it, here ya' go:
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/LVM5OVxLfq0

If you just want one tune - though it is hard to pick just one - try this:
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/SHhrZgojY1Q


I feel this is one of the few albums where if even a single note was changed, it would be a 'lesser' listening experience.  It is also one of few albums that, when I'm down, seems to always lift my spirits if I listen to it intently (intently = 'with little to no focus on anything else').

Oh, and the 'why it belongs on the list': while it perfectly summarized the time in which it was made, the grace and beauty and emotional power of the music is timeless.   [<=this last sentence/paragraph added after Tripe's 'Like', just so it's known he didn't necessarily agree with this (though he might)]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 15, 2012, 08:15:18 PM
I personally would like to suggest Joshua Tree by U2.  While I'm not a huge U2 fan and my favourite album by theirs was actually War... Joshua Tree is still an album I think pretty much everyone needs to have listened to at least once in their lives, or they will die.

And another recommendation is Depeche Mode's Violator album.  Even the "singles" on this one have severely different mixes on the album version... so even if you think you know the songs from the radio, you haven't heard them like on the album.  Extended version of "Personal Jesus" ... the minute and a half coda to "Enjoy the Silence" ... Just a morphinominal album.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on July 15, 2012, 08:24:03 PM
So two U2 albums in the next round? Sweet! I nominated Achtung Baby a few pages ago. That album took everything about U2 and spun it around.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 15, 2012, 08:34:39 PM
I personally would like to suggest Joshua Tree by U2.  While I'm not a huge U2 fan and my favourite album by theirs was actually War... Joshua Tree is still an album I think pretty much everyone needs to have listened to at least once in their lives, or they will die.

I 'heart' this part of the post.  :)  [Haven't heard the other yet, so don't know whether I 'heart'(agree) with it or not.]

I agree Joshua Tree is an incredible album start to finish, and if someone else hadn't beaten me to it, I would have nominated it at some point.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on July 15, 2012, 08:46:24 PM
I just got done listening to it on vinyl
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 15, 2012, 08:52:38 PM
As for my Depeche Mode request, I was torn between Violator (1990) and Music For The Masses (1987) ... Violator's my fave but I try not to say that my personal favourites should be on any list like this UNLESS it really is a "must hear" album.  Example: My favourite Floyd album (and favourite album of ALL TIME) is Animals.... but Dark Side should be on this list first and foremost.

But yeah, Violator was just more solid an album all around, so it won my pick. (I listened to DM today at work)  Music For The Masses kinda fell off half-way through and became forgettable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_for_the_Masses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violator_(album)

I'll save my Cure suggestions for later.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 15, 2012, 08:58:34 PM
So two U2 albums in the next round? Sweet! I nominated Achtung Baby a few pages ago. That album took everything about U2 and spun it around.

Oddly, I like the Zooropa and Pop albums even better than Achtung Baby.   Honestly, I feel their prime was the first 3 albums (Boy, October, War) and everything after that was just just cookie-cuttered until Zooropa when they decided to try something different.... then fans got mad, so they apologized (a horrible thing for a band to do about their own music) and caved and did that Beautiful Day crap and tried to "recapture" their Joshua Tree sound.  Feh.

Give me Echo and The Bunnymen any day.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 15, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
...I try not to say that my personal favourites should be on any list like this UNLESS it really is a "must hear" album.  Example: My favourite Floyd album (and favourite album of ALL TIME) is Animals.... but Dark Side should be on this list first and foremost.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.  I did that on the "103 Films..." thread, and likely will do so here as well [I know my Benny Goodman fits the bill, as there's only one tune on it that I like enough to repeatedly listen to... but that one is possibly in my top 50 favorite tunes of all time].


Funny, I liked the 'Eno/Lanois years' of U2: "Unforgettable Fire", "Joshua Tree" and I like most of "Achtung Baby"... that's almost exactly right between the 'ages' of U2 that you two prefer.  [Yes, I did the "U2"/"you two" thing deliberately.]  Some of the 'Passengers' stuff is pretty good, but some I think is awful ["Elvis Ate America"].
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 15, 2012, 09:32:21 PM
...I try not to say that my personal favourites should be on any list like this UNLESS it really is a "must hear" album.  Example: My favourite Floyd album (and favourite album of ALL TIME) is Animals.... but Dark Side should be on this list first and foremost.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.  I did that on the "103 Films..." thread, and likely will do so here as well [I know my Benny Goodman fits the bill, as there's only one tune on it that I like enough to repeatedly listen to... but that one is possibly in my top 50 favorite tunes of all time].


Funny, I liked the 'Eno/Lanois years' of U2: "Unforgettable Fire", "Joshua Tree" and I like most of "Achtung Baby"... that's almost exactly right between the 'ages' of U2 that you two prefer.  [Yes, I did the "U2"/"you two" thing deliberately.]  Some of the 'Passengers' stuff is pretty good, but some I think is awful ["Elvis Ate America"].

On a side note, their most recent album impressed the ever-loving flying shit out of me.  Maybe because they did very little build-up to it (aside from the one full week on Letterman) and never ONCE claimed it was "going to be the new Joshua Tree" like they did the few before it.  Anyways, brilliant album and it made me happy.  It just felt like a natural album of a band playing together and not TRYING too hard.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 15, 2012, 10:21:10 PM
My biggest 'beef' ;) with later U2 albums is that they lost the political/social/personal depth that the earlier albums had [which is, I realize, why some people never liked them in the first place].  But with the loss of that 'vocal-activism', seemingly, they lost the musical depth as well.  If this new one goes back to that political/social/personal awareness, and musical depth, then I might enjoy it.  But I don't care about people singing about superficial crap ['Discotheque'], just as I don't care for small talk; it is a waste of my time (and, with small talk, likely the other person's time).
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: wurwolf on July 16, 2012, 07:07:41 AM
Example: My favourite Floyd album (and favourite album of ALL TIME) is Animals.... but Dark Side should be on this list first and foremost.

You know what, I agree with you. Animals is my favorite Pink Floyd album, too, and when it came time to beef up the Floyd library Animals is the first album I suggested that APGIL download. But I went with Dark Side of the Moon because it's so well known and such a hallmark of the band's legacy that it seemed silly not to nominate it first.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 16, 2012, 09:37:24 AM
Example: My favourite Floyd album (and favourite album of ALL TIME) is Animals.... but Dark Side should be on this list first and foremost.

You know what, I agree with you. Animals is my favorite Pink Floyd album, too, and when it came time to beef up the Floyd library Animals is the first album I suggested that APGIL download. But I went with Dark Side of the Moon because it's so well known and such a hallmark of the band's legacy that it seemed silly not to nominate it first.

Animals actually was my LEAST appreciated album by Floyd for a long time... until I decided to spend a week straight listening to nothing BUT Animals.  Then its perfection smacked me in the face and I've loved it ever since.

A true American love story.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 AM
Animals actually was my LEAST appreciated album by Floyd for a long time... until I decided to spend a week straight listening to nothing BUT Animals.  Then its perfection smacked me in the face and I've loved it ever since.

A true American love story.

That's the best kind of album. The ones you struggle with are the ones that will have lasting value. Modest Mouse's first few albums took me several listens before they clicked, but now they're all among my favorite albums. Of course, ideally, there will be something that hooks you from the beginning, that keeps you coming back. They Might Be Giants is an example of a band that offers a lot on multiple levels. The reasons I love them now are different from the reasons I got into them.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MontyServo on July 16, 2012, 03:08:04 PM
As for my Depeche Mode request, I was torn between Violator (1990) and Music For The Masses (1987) ... Violator's my fave but I try not to say that my personal favourites should be on any list like this UNLESS it really is a "must hear" album.  Example: My favourite Floyd album (and favourite album of ALL TIME) is Animals.... but Dark Side should be on this list first and foremost.

But yeah, Violator was just more solid an album all around, so it won my pick. (I listened to DM today at work)  Music For The Masses kinda fell off half-way through and became forgettable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_for_the_Masses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violator_(album)

I'll save my Cure suggestions for later.

I probably would have suggested Music For The Masses at some point.  It's my favorite Depeche Mode album.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: goflyblind on July 16, 2012, 03:43:04 PM
are we doing second-round nominations yet? i'm going with gogol bordello - super taranta!

http://www.youtube.com/v/aPfeOAhDfbM

http://www.youtube.com/v/L4hbSW8tm2k

http://www.youtube.com/v/iUW00Y5x1tM

other great ones: zina-marina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm7Fns9KI8A), dub the frequencies of love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbd4cRPTzbg), your country (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-iepkbFIw) :D
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Post by: Starman! on July 16, 2012, 08:37:41 PM
Pop and Zooropa are my second and third favorite U2 albums. I think of their 90s albums as a holy trinity. Believe it or not, most diehard fans love Zooropa and (especially) Pop.

The Passengers album has sone good stuff (Miss Sarajevo) and bad stuff (Elvis Ate America).
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 17, 2012, 08:35:25 AM
Axis: Bold As Love - The Jimi Hendrix Experience

I think this is the band's best album. From start to finish, it's just an incredibly well-rounded record, featuring several of their best and most beautiful songs. Spanish Castle Magic, Castles Made of Sand, Bold As Love, and Little Wing are all here, along with some cool tracks tying it all together. It's just a wonderful listening experience.

I've never considered Hendrix to be a great lead guitarist, but easily one of the greatest rhythm players of all time. The way he so effortlessly fills the musical space with rhythm lines and licks is truly amazing, and a real treat to listen to.


http://www.youtube.com/v/uR5MpWgVxHk?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 17, 2012, 08:50:42 AM
These seem like the deserving winners from the last poll (all received at least 33% of the vote.)

Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
The Beatles a.k.a. "The White Album" - The Beatles
Abraxas - Santana
Moving Pictures - Rush
Automatic For The People - R.E.M.


New poll is up.
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Post by: Tripe on July 17, 2012, 09:03:52 AM
Axis: Bold As Love - The Jimi Hendrix Experience

I think this is the band's best album. From start to finish, it's just an incredibly well-rounded record, featuring several of their best and most beautiful songs. Spanish Castle Magic, Castles Made of Sand, Bold As Love, and Little Wing are all here, along with some cool tracks tying it all together. It's just a wonderful listening experience.

I've never considered Hendrix to be a great lead guitarist, but easily one of the greatest rhythm players of all time. The way he so effortlessly fills the musical space with rhythm lines and licks is truly amazing, and a real treat to listen to.


http://www.youtube.com/v/uR5MpWgVxHk?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

It's my favourite. :)

So, can't post links right now, will edit this when I get home but let's put up:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/MassiveAttackBlueLines.jpg)

Blue Lines from Massive Attack
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Post by: LucasM on July 17, 2012, 10:20:53 AM
Axis: Bold As Love - The Jimi Hendrix Experience

I think this is the band's best album. From start to finish, it's just an incredibly well-rounded record, featuring several of their best and most beautiful songs. Spanish Castle Magic, Castles Made of Sand, Bold As Love, and Little Wing are all here, along with some cool tracks tying it all together. It's just a wonderful listening experience.

I've never considered Hendrix to be a great lead guitarist, but easily one of the greatest rhythm players of all time. The way he so effortlessly fills the musical space with rhythm lines and licks is truly amazing, and a real treat to listen to.


http://www.youtube.com/v/uR5MpWgVxHk?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

During the course of this list I was planning to nominate all three of Hendrix's first three albums (the official ones he wanted released), because they are all exceptional and groundbreaking for one reason or another.  You beat me to this one.  :)

Given D.B.'s comments, for those not aware: playing live, Hendrix would often play rhythm and lead at the same time.  And, because his fingers were so long, he could stretch his hand all the way around the fretboard and use his thumb as another 'note-choosing' finger.  He was also completely self-taught.

In addition, some of the things musicians now take for granted (e.g. phase shifters) were created by Hendrix so that he could get the sounds in his head out where others could hear them.  He designed a speaker system where two speakers would rotate in their cabinets, giving the alternately 'open' and 'muffled' sound (later this was done electronically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaser_(effect))).  His 'instruments' were as much electricity itself in its role in sound production, and the recording studio, as the guitar.  He knew how the guitar interacted with what was around it, altering its sound with whatever was handy, inducing feedback to punctuate and deepen the sounds and emotional effect he wanted to achieve [e.g. the sounds of bombs dropping in 'Machine Gun' on 'Band of Gypsys'].  He played electricity and the studio every bit as proficiently as the instrument everyone knows him for.

[Yes, all but the link to phase shifters on Wikipedia was off the top of my head.]


This round is interesting because I'd already heard all but one of them, and there were samples of that one in its nomination.
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Post by: gojikranz on July 18, 2012, 12:49:28 PM
de evolution is real
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 18, 2012, 01:23:43 PM
During the course of this list I was planning to nominate all three of Hendrix's first three albums (the official ones he wanted released), because they are all exceptional and groundbreaking for one reason or another.  You beat me to this one.  :)

Given D.B.'s comments, for those not aware: playing live, Hendrix would often play rhythm and lead at the same time.  And, because his fingers were so long, he could stretch his hand all the way around the fretboard and use his thumb as another 'note-choosing' finger.  He was also completely self-taught.

In addition, some of the things musicians now take for granted (e.g. phase shifters) were created by Hendrix so that he could get the sounds in his head out where others could hear them.  He designed a speaker system where two speakers would rotate in their cabinets, giving the alternately 'open' and 'muffled' sound (later this was done electronically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaser_(effect))).  His 'instruments' were as much electricity itself in its role in sound production, and the recording studio, as the guitar.  He knew how the guitar interacted with what was around it, altering its sound with whatever was handy, inducing feedback to punctuate and deepen the sounds and emotional effect he wanted to achieve [e.g. the sounds of bombs dropping in 'Machine Gun' on 'Band of Gypsys'].  He played electricity and the studio every bit as proficiently as the instrument everyone knows him for.

[Yes, all but the link to phase shifters on Wikipedia was off the top of my head.]


This round is interesting because I'd already heard all but one of them, and there were samples of that one in its nomination.


AAAAAAND Hendrix credited his interest in exploring the guitar and what you could do with/to it to a Mr Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd (who toured with Hendrix very early on)  Syd was in the midst of his "going insane" and would frequently set his guitars on fire while on stage (amongst other things like not having strings on the guitar... and occasionally just making toast on stage instead of playing altogether)

So that being said, I'd like to nominate Syd Barrett's "Madcap Laughs" album.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Madcap_Laughs
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Post by: gojikranz on July 18, 2012, 02:00:52 PM
AAAAAAAnd Hendrix also famously after a early king crimson show asked Robert Fripp to shake his left hand as it was closer to his heart. 

so that being said lets try:

King Crimson In The Court of the Crimson King.  not my favorite crimson album but certainly a must listen.  and awesome cover art as well.
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 18, 2012, 02:14:01 PM
AAAAAAAnd Hendrix also famously after a early king crimson show asked Robert Fripp to shake his left hand as it was closer to his heart. 

so that being said lets try:

King Crimson In The Court of the Crimson King.  not my favorite crimson album but certainly a must listen.  and awesome cover art as well.

Haha I was waiting a while to suggest Red.  Even Kurt Cobain (who everyone worships apparently) said it was his favourite rock album.

...but as I am a hardcore kCrimson fanatic, Court is seconded by me!!
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Post by: gojikranz on July 18, 2012, 02:22:45 PM
red is pretty huge i actually really like three of a perfect pair though that could never make a list like this.
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 18, 2012, 02:49:57 PM
red is pretty huge i actually really like three of a perfect pair though that could never make a list like this.

THRAK!!!  Okay, I'm done.

I've voted already.... Can we get to the next set now?!
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Post by: Starman! on July 18, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Vote.
(http://cdn2.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/U2-Achtung-Baby.jpg)
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Post by: ScottotD on July 19, 2012, 01:12:10 AM
Easy vote, Nevermind & Who's Next?
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 19, 2012, 02:26:45 PM
I thought there were going to be two U2 albums in this set? Wasn't Joshua Tree in there?
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2012, 03:40:24 PM
I thought there were going to be two U2 albums in this set? Wasn't Joshua Tree in there?

Beef suggested two albums in one post. I chose the one from the band that wasn't already nominated for that round. I think there are enough albums out there worthy of nomination to where we don't have to nominate two from the same band in a single round.

Everybody okay with that? Great!
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Post by: Starman! on July 19, 2012, 03:48:36 PM
Don't worry, I'll nominate The Joshua Tree for the next round. ;)
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 19, 2012, 07:12:44 PM
I thought there were going to be two U2 albums in this set? Wasn't Joshua Tree in there?

Beef suggested two albums in one post. I chose the one from the band that wasn't already nominated for that round. I think there are enough albums out there worthy of nomination to where we don't have to nominate two from the same band in a single round.

Everybody okay with that? Great!

Yeah, albums by the same band should be in separate rounds until we get to having to eliminate one over the other.  It only makes logical sense, and therefore I am okay with it.

I did vote for Achtung Baby, despite my stance that it really isn't as necessary for people to hear as Joshua Tree.  I just listened to AB again yesterday, and I still don't get what the big deal with the album is.  Only a few songs really stood out as being "great" but opinions differ per person.

Mine is just the RIGHT one.

I also voted for Nirvana, Devo, Talking Heads, The Who, and Depeche Mode.
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Post by: Russell on July 20, 2012, 04:33:58 PM
when is the next round? My nomination last time was so stupid because I should have known most people here probably haven't heard of it.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 20, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
The poll runs until Tuesday, but in the meantime, feel free to get your nominations in for round three. We need seven more albums.
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Post by: LucasM on July 20, 2012, 10:42:41 PM
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland

[For 'full disclosure': all these details were added after Asbestos Bill's 'Like'ing this post.]
This beats out AXIS for my favorite Hendrix album, despite how superb AXIS is (this is my favorite album of all time).  Hendrix raised the bar on what constituted a superb album with AXIS, then topped it with this just 11 months later.  A large majority of the songs on this album - when I am listening to them exclusively (i.e. 'not doing anything else at the same time') - can bring me to tears just from the beauty of the music, as well as much of it giving me head-to-toe goosebumps.

This album is not - by any means - 'background music'.  It fits with Hendrix's statement that [paraphrasing, because I can't remember which of the numerous things I've read about him it came from to find exact wording], "the listener of a particular piece of music should put as much effort into the listening as the artist did in the creation of that piece of music."

This album shows Hendrix's versatility as a composer and musician.  He plays 'space music' (...And the Gods Made Love), beautiful 'orchestral' music without a hint of standard orchestral instruments (1983, A Merman I Should Turn to Be [into] Moon Turn the Tides, Gently, Gently Away [first clip, below]), straight-ahead [well, as 'straight-ahead' as he ever got ;)] rock (Crosstown Traffic), a driving 'field holler' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_holler)-style tune (Gypsy Eyes), 'classic' blues (Voodoo Chile [with an amazing 17 year old Steve Winwood actually keeping up with him in possibly the best keyboard playing of Steve's career], one of the most gut-wrenching odes to lonliness which he does in a sort-of neo-Victorian style (Burning of the Midnight Lamp [lyrics below]),  potentially the start of Jazz-Rock fusion (Rainy Day, Dream Away/Still Raining, Still Dreaming), and to my knowledge, the only cover of a Dylan song that Dylan thought was better than his own version (All Along the Watchtower).  [[Sorry I couldn't link all the tunes to YouTube cuts, but the second flash insert below has the full album, and, if you click the 'YouTube' button on it, it will take you to YouTube, where the uploader indexed where each tune begins.]]

On Electric Ladyland each vinyl 'album side' had a kind-of 'tone' to it, and yet, with all the variety of songs, it still works well as a single album... much like the movements of a symphony work together.

And this album - more than any other I can think of - shows just exactly how much music can possibly 'fit' into the tiny number of minutes each tune lasts [listen to Burning of the Midnight Lamp with eyes closed and try to guess how long it is: Hendrix 'expands time' with his music because there is so much depth to it].


Now for the 'samples':
One of the most incredible tunes he ever recorded (shows him 'playing the studio' every bit as well as the guitar):
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/z_D6qU525MY

And, if you like, [which you should ;)], the full album, with time stamps listed in its written intro on the YouTube site so you can jump to any tune on it:
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/dAmvgGZkIL0

Burning of the Midnight Lamp.  Lyrics are below so you can read them afterwards, but listen with eyes closed to get the depth of the music first, OK?
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/smNJQZxZMeA

Burning of the Midnight Lamp lyrics [spoiled for size]
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: ScottotD on July 20, 2012, 11:02:58 PM
The Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
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Post by: goflyblind on July 21, 2012, 04:32:33 AM
jean leloup - le dôme.

[will add samples here later.]
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 21, 2012, 10:09:58 AM
Okay. So, I did listen to most of the albums last round.

I really liked the new Duran Duran album, but not enough to vote for it. They've kept their funk and updated it well. I liked Before the Rain best.

Abraxas was a good jam album, (which gives me an idea for my next nomination). I remembered Oye Como Va from Donkey Conga, so Santana wasn't entirely foreign to me, as I thought. Voted for it.

Moving Pictures requires further listening to form an opinion. I don't remember if I voted for it or not, but I listened to it two or three times, and I don't remember anything about it.

Jay Z's Black Album was alright, but I'm just not that into hip-hop of this style. I prefer it to be more fun, or, if it's going to be serious, I'd rather listen to Saul Williams, who has usually very thoughtful lyrics and is much more complicated musically (based solely on The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of Niggy Tardust).

The others I either had already heard, or failed to find/download.

As for this one, I have several Talking Heads and several U2 albums, but neither of these. I do have Close to the Edge, but it's very hard to judge, because I really have to be in the right mood to enjoy Yes. I do enjoy them, just...on occasion.

So far, I voted for Nevermind (even though I like In Utero far more), and Axis: Bold as Love (even though I prefer Electric Ladyland). And of course Parallel Lines, my own submission.

Time to download some albums. Unfortunately, I can't listen to music while I edit audio...


[edit} My submission: Phish—Billy Breathes
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 21, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
I got to hurry up with listening to the album.

So far I've listened up to Nevermind, but I don't really want to put the first three albums on my must listen.  Achtung Baby has a couple great songs, but overall, I can't get into it.  I like Close to the Edge, but it doesn't stick with me.  Nirvana... well, I definitely appreciate it's importance, but I just could never get into it.  Even the beloved great songs.  I believe they are great but... well... different strokes for different folks.  Still, it's a fun journey to experience these albums.

[edit} My submission: Phish—Billy Breathes

Curious if you've listened to the Podcast "Analyze Phish".  The premise is Parks and Rec writer Harris Whittles tries to convince Scott Aukerman that Phish is a good band.  Scott will not budge.  Once Scott is convinced, the show will end.  The show has yet to end.
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Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on July 21, 2012, 11:06:32 AM
For the next go round I nomitate Ziggy Stardust by the man himself...David Bowie
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 21, 2012, 11:09:46 AM
Funny, I was going to do the same.

But I think you mean to say: "I nominate David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust"

I was actually torn between that and Hunky Dory.  Maybe I'll nominate that one at a future date.
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Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on July 21, 2012, 11:13:00 AM
What can I say?  I'm lazy.
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Post by: Starman! on July 21, 2012, 11:13:34 AM
I nominate The Joshua Tree
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 21, 2012, 11:13:54 AM
Curious if you've listened to the Podcast "Analyze Phish".  The premise is Parks and Rec writer Harris Whittles tries to convince Scott Aukerman that Phish is a good band.  Scott will not budge.  Once Scott is convinced, the show will end.  The show has yet to end.

Never heard of it. That's an odd concept. For some reason I can't get into podcasts, but I'll give the first episode a listen.
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Post by: LucasM on July 21, 2012, 11:28:46 AM
To those who go directly to the most recent posts in threads, please note I've now expanded the 'Hendrix - Electric Ladyland entry with samples and more: http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg737986#msg737986 (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg737986#msg737986)
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 21, 2012, 11:34:33 AM
Yeah, well, EarWolf stuff can get pretty weird.  I also recommend Affirmation Nation, in which recurring Comedy Bang Bang character Bob Ducca talks about various alternative (and ineffective) therapies, poems and countless maladies and mental issues.

Half of the episodes (like his Comedy Bang Bang appearances) ends up being a funny list of things.

http://www.youtube.com/v/oIu5wD1zf8o

http://www.youtube.com/v/X3tGG18DwDw

A Vow of Sexual Undesirability is one of my favourite turns of phrase ever.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5F1Ax51UdZE
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 21, 2012, 01:40:36 PM
I'm listening to Analyze Phish now and am enjoying it a lot. It's both entertaining and a good way to get what they're about. Personally, I have no experience with their live music, but I kind of really want to see a show now.
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Post by: Starman! on July 21, 2012, 02:07:21 PM
That sounds like a good pod, even though I'm not a phan of Phish.
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 21, 2012, 02:40:21 PM
Billy Breathes is probably the most coherent of the five studio albums I have from them. It's a smooth ride that pulls you through from "Free":

http://www.youtube.com/v/y5HNCw3VLB0

to the more mellow, but still definitely driven "Talk":

http://www.youtube.com/v/8Tup9pD0Fps

which leads into "Theme From the Bottom":

http://www.youtube.com/v/y7BOr-h95FE

and from there, the last half of the album really functions as one unit, building up to the trio of "Swept Away," "Steep," and "Prince Caspian":

http://www.youtube.com/v/aNBY2kxMTLU


This is, of course, no substitute for listening to the whole album straight through, so go torrent it. This is one of the few bands who would probably not even care.
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Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 21, 2012, 05:52:25 PM
Just got done with Violator and loved it. True Stories was also great.
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 21, 2012, 06:08:13 PM
I nominate something that should be just obvious to anyone and everyone who's ever heard it:

The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

It should go without saying.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 21, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Just got done with Violator and loved it.

It's a good album. I just listened to it for the first time in a long time. Totally takes me back to high school. Depeche Mode provided a big part of the soundtrack to those days. Some Great Reward is also a really good album. The 101 concert film is pretty cool, too.

I nominate something that should be just obvious to anyone and everyone who's ever heard it:

The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

You already nominated Syd Barrett. Let's limit ourselves to one nomination per round so they don't pile up, mmmkay? Greaaat.
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 21, 2012, 06:38:28 PM
Just got done with Violator and loved it.

It's a good album. I just listened to it for the first time in a long time. Totally takes me back to high school. Depeche Mode provided a big part of the soundtrack to those days. Some Great Reward is also a really good album. The 101 concert film is pretty cool, too.

I nominate something that should be just obvious to anyone and everyone who's ever heard it:

The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

You already nominated Syd Barrett. Let's limit ourselves to one nomination per round so they don't pile up, mmmkay? Greaaat.

I don't care what album gets into what round.... I just keep remembering Pet Sounds when I'm nowhere near a computer, and forgetting it when I am.... So I mentioned it.

Pet Sounds is "the best album ever made" (Paul McCartney) and I, as someone who spent 24 years of his life loathing the Beach Boys will agree.
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Post by: Russell on July 21, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
I'm going to nominate an album I should have nominated 2 rounds ago, and like a dumb ass i did not.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ac/DuranRio.jpg/220px-DuranRio.jpg)
Duran Duran - Rio
http://www.youtube.com/v/e3W6yf6c-FA?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 22, 2012, 08:22:15 PM
Finally voted.

Went with Q: Are We Not Men A: We Are Devo, Violator (I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected), Who's Next (almost didn't make it.  I have a love/hate experience with the Who.  When they are on, they are great, but there are a lot of songs I really don't like), True Stories and Axis: Bold as Love.  Good stuff this time around.

If it's not too late, I'm going to nominated Gorillaz (self-titled) for an album that needs to be listened too.
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 22, 2012, 08:32:24 PM
Finally voted.

Went with Q: Are We Not Men A: We Are Devo, Violator (I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected), Who's Next (almost didn't make it.  I have a love/hate experience with the Who.  When they are on, they are great, but there are a lot of songs I really don't like), True Stories and Axis: Bold as Love.  Good stuff this time around.

Yeah, I have an iffy love/hate with The Who as well (also voted for it).  Another band I enjoy sometimes and think was really good.... but I just can't listen to them very often.  Kinda give me a headache.  Same goes for Zeppelin for me, but I've been working on appreciating them more lately.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 23, 2012, 11:15:03 AM
If it's not too late, I'm going to nominate Gorillaz (self-titled) for an album that needs to be listened too.

No, you're good. That's the tenth nomination for the next poll, so we're set for round three.
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Post by: goflyblind on July 23, 2012, 11:35:14 AM
i guess i'll put them here, rather than go to my previous post. samples from jean leloup - le dome.

http://www.youtube.com/v/DgrpaKAyeT8

http://www.youtube.com/v/vMCarhODvVk

http://www.youtube.com/v/TdVXqFpET5k

http://www.youtube.com/v/5XopMw00f1k
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 23, 2012, 11:40:14 AM
Guess I missed a few rounds...

For round 4 I'll Nominate Elvis, the second album by Elvis Presley.

Just about every track is fantastic.  And it has the saddest song ever done "old shep"

Side One
1. Rip It Up
2. Love Me
3. When My
4. Long Tall Sally
5. First in Line
6. Paralyzed
    
Side Two
1. So Glad You're Mine
2. Old Shep    
3. Ready Teddy
4. Anyplace Is Paradise    
5. How's the World Treating You?
6. How Do You Think I Feel



Rip It Up
http://www.youtube.com/v/Xo5dvsfTOaM

Long tall sally:
http://www.youtube.com/v/J9dK6wStbAE

Paralyzed:
http://www.youtube.com/v/NInn5pSyKMw

When My Blue Moon Turns to Gold Again:
http://www.youtube.com/v/lAhS0rnbcUM

Old Shep:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Xs0jhwQuu3k
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 23, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
Guess I missed a few rounds...

For round 4 I'll Nominate Elvis, the second album by Elvis Presley.

In the future, hold off on nominations until the previous round is complete, for example, once round three ends, send in nominations for round four, etc.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 23, 2012, 11:56:52 AM
Guess I missed a few rounds...

For round 4 I'll Nominate Elvis, the second album by Elvis Presley.

In the future, hold off on nominations until the previous round is complete, for example, once round three ends, send in nominations for round four, etc.

Wouldn't that cause a big gap between the end of round three and the start of round four?!  I would think you'd want the next round to be all ready and filled by the time the previous round ends.....

...but hey, if you really want a few days between them then it's your deal.  I really couldn't give a flying fuck how prepared anyone else is.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 23, 2012, 12:48:14 PM
I may be mistaken, but it's possible that D.B. meant 'hold off until round TWO is done before sending in noms for round four'.  [i.e. so that people aren't nominating two or more rounds into the future, but nominating so there's enough in the bag for the next round that 'takes over' from the current one].
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 23, 2012, 12:49:21 PM
I may be mistaken, but it's possible that D.B. meant 'hold off until round TWO is done before sending in noms for round four'.  [i.e. so that people aren't nominating two or more rounds into the future, but so there's enough for the next round that 'takes over' from the current one].

NEVER!!!!!!  I refuse to accept that as a possibility! :D
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 23, 2012, 12:51:35 PM
I may be mistaken, but it's possible that D.B. meant 'hold off until round TWO is done before sending in noms for round four'.  [i.e. so that people aren't nominating two or more rounds into the future, but so there's enough for the next round that 'takes over' from the current one].

Yes. Thanks for clarifying that, Lucas.

It's just how we're doing it now, Beef. Round three is all ready to go, but until the poll for round three goes up, hold off on round four nominations.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 23, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Not a prob on the clarification, D.B..  :)


In prep for future nominations (as it is easier for me to do the 'same thing' for a while than to change from doing one thing to another), I used a program that gives me an expanded directory tree for my iTunes folder (containing most or all of my 500-600 CDs).  I've been whittling albums off of it off and on as I get energy.  I've done this partly by just checking my iTunes ratings for the tunes on each album: if there's more than one or two 'average' tunes on it, the album is disqualified for my nominating it.  But so far I still have a LOT I'd want to nominate, which I'll have to prioritize in order to come up with roughly the 'top 20-25' as that may be the max number of rounds here, since it seems roughly 4-5 albums stand out enough in any given round to make the final list.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 23, 2012, 01:22:25 PM
if there's more than one or two 'average' tunes on it, the album is disqualified for my nominating it.

I would disagree with this, but I know that my rating system is heavily skewed. My 2-star tracks are still good songs, and I give extremely few 5-star ratings. Nevertheless, I will say that a song can be better in the context of the album than it is on its own.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on July 23, 2012, 01:28:14 PM
Got out my Automatic for the People CD to listen to this weekend.  Still as awesome as ever.

I had totally forgotten about the song "Drive" on the CD though.  I remembered loving the video, black and white, and the crowd surfing.  One of the best videos I've ever seen.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 23, 2012, 01:31:38 PM
Got out my Automatic for the People CD to listen to this weekend.  Still as awesome as ever.

I had totally forgotten about the song "Drive" on the CD though.  I remembered loving the video, black and white, and the crowd surfing.  One of the best videos I've ever seen.

I'm not really an REM fan ("UP" is my favorite album), but there are several songs I like on each of their other releases. Drive is probably my favorite.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 23, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
I may be mistaken, but it's possible that D.B. meant 'hold off until round TWO is done before sending in noms for round four'.  [i.e. so that people aren't nominating two or more rounds into the future, but so there's enough for the next round that 'takes over' from the current one].

Yes. Thanks for clarifying that, Lucas.

It's just how we're doing it now, Beef. Round three is all ready to go, but until the poll for round three goes up, hold off on round four nominations.

Oh I've BEEN holding off.  I wasn't nominating anything, just pointing out that your post didn't make any sense with the whole "When round three is over, then you can nominate for four" thing...  This IS a web forum, after all, and if you can't point out the errors in peoples' posts, what CAN you do?! ;)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Space version 2.0 on July 23, 2012, 03:50:19 PM

Moving Pictures requires further listening to form an opinion. I don't remember if I voted for it or not, but I listened to it two or three times, and I don't remember anything about it.

:'(
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 23, 2012, 06:47:13 PM
if there's more than one or two 'average' tunes on it, the album is disqualified for my nominating it.

I would disagree with this, but I know that my rating system is heavily skewed. My 2-star tracks are still good songs, and I give extremely few 5-star ratings. Nevertheless, I will say that a song can be better in the context of the album than it is on its own.

For me, while it is true that context can 'improve' the relative quality of a tune, I did this simply because of the sheer volume of music I have to consider.  Currently iTunes says I have 6167 songs, which, if played continuously, would play for 21.2 days.  So I've done some 'pruning' of less-than-stellar music from my collection [for clarity's sake: the 21.2 days measure was what was left AFTER the purge of nearly 1000 tunes].

For me, I use the star-system in my iPod like this:

So for this list, I'm looking at CDs that pretty much have '4' and '5' scores throughout, with rare exception.  Simply because there would otherwise be far too many to want to nominate.  I have over three days worth of '5' tunes, and over 10 days of '4's.  I'm basically looking for where the two intersect within specific albums. :)

But - and you are right - I may have stated that a little too strong: I may let one or two through depending on just how good a 'unit' the album as a whole is.  If the whole album is astonishing, I'll let it slide.  But my priority is to try to find things that only fit the 4+5 star criteria.  [I seem to recall there only being a couple CDs where they were 'all 5s' when I went through and scored them all.]

[[Again: this thread could kill me if I let it. :P ]]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 25, 2012, 10:45:28 AM
Okay, the winners from round two are as follows:

Who's Next - The Who
Axis: Bold As Love - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Nevermind - Nirvana
Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! - Devo
True Stories - Talking Heads


All received more that 33% of the vote.

New poll is up! Feel free to get those round four nominations in.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 25, 2012, 11:35:34 AM
All received more that 33% of the vote.

Does this mean that voting for all of the entries does...nothing? Is my math right there? Would that actually make it harder for each of them to place?

Math is not my forté, so someone who knows more, please jump in and correct me if I'm on the wrong track.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 25, 2012, 11:40:11 AM
All received more that 33% of the vote.

Does this mean that voting for all of the entries does...nothing? Is my math right there? Would that actually make it harder for each of them to place?

Math is not my forté, so someone who knows more, please jump in and correct me if I'm on the wrong track.

Maybe I put that wrong in saying "33% of the vote." Winners are voted for by at least of third of the voters.

Does anybody not understand what constitutes a winner?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on July 25, 2012, 11:48:36 AM
No voting for everything essentially just creates a flat line

Sam votes for all 10, result each gets 10% of the total votes (10).
Ella also votes for all 10, result, each has 10% of the total votes (20).
Cal votes for 6, result six of those have 11.3% of the total votes while four have 7.7% of the total votes (26)
Medea votes for 6 and so on and so forth.

Voting for all of them doesn't really do anything useful.

EDIT: 11.3 not 11.6 sorry. Rounding obviously.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 25, 2012, 11:49:06 AM
All received more that 33% of the vote.

Does this mean that voting for all of the entries does...nothing? Is my math right there? Would that actually make it harder for each of them to place?

Math is not my forté, so someone who knows more, please jump in and correct me if I'm on the wrong track.

Maybe I put that wrong in saying "33% of the vote." Winners are voted for by at least of third of the voters.

Does anybody not understand what constitutes a winner?

Winner [win-ner] (n) - That which is not a loser; Charlie Sheen. (ant. Loser - See "Beck")
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 25, 2012, 12:16:09 PM
Winners are voted for by at least of third of the voters.

That makes sense. For some reason I thought you could only see the number of votes, not voters.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 25, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
With the math-intensive example given, I think that confuses what D.B. is saying.  If I understand his clarifying statement correctly, if 1/3 of people who voted voted for something, then it was a 'win'.  How many votes each person cast for how many albums is irrelevant (i.e. it is not % of votes cast, it is 33.33% of voters voting).

i.e. if 24 people vote in a round, then anything getting =/> 1/3 of 24 (or 8 ) votes gets in the list
      if only 18 people vote, than something would have to get =/> 1/3 of 18 (or 6) votes to get on the list

With that, as long as 1/3 of the people voting voted for any given album, it would be in, whether they voted for all 10 or just 1 album.  So, while voting for all 10 increases the likelihood all 10 would be winners, voting for less than 10 lowers the likelihood that those not voted will get in.

Is that it, D.B.?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 25, 2012, 04:08:42 PM
With the math-intensive example given, I think that confuses what D.B. is saying.  If I understand his clarifying statement correctly, if 1/3 of people who voted voted for something, then it was a 'win'.  How many votes each person cast for how many albums is irrelevant (i.e. it is not % of votes cast, it is 33.33% of voters voting).

i.e. if 24 people vote in a round, then anything getting =/> 1/3 of 24 (or 8 ) votes gets in the list
      if only 18 people vote, than something would have to get =/> 1/3 of 18 (or 6) votes to get on the list

With that, as long as 1/3 of the people voting voted for any given album, it would be in, whether they voted for all 10 or just 1 album.  So, while voting for all 10 increases the likelihood all 10 would be winners, voting for less than 10 lowers the likelihood that those not voted will get in.

Is that it, D.B.?

That is correct. Thanks again for clarifying. I should probably just hire you to write posts where I need to explain shit. I sure hope you don't charge by the word, though.  ;)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on July 25, 2012, 05:21:47 PM
Wait, where's The Joshua Tree? I thought I nominated that.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 25, 2012, 06:28:36 PM
Remember to bold those nommminations, okay folks? We can do this. Go team, go team go. :highfive:

Joshua Tree will be in the next poll.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 25, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
Since I've been finding and listening to the nominations as they came in (rather than waiting until the poll was up to start looking), I'm almost done.  Listening to the last one now [Gorillaz] and am quite enjoying it ('course I thought I might, as I enjoyed the one tune of theirs I heard when they were on Colbert Report back when I used to watch it).


Something that I occasionally have to remind myself of as I'm listening to some of these (especially needed for ones that don't fit my musical taste ;)) - which I thought some others might like a 'refresher' for - is the 'rules' for this list: "As with the movies poll, the goal of this thread is to generate a list of albums that should be experienced by everyone at least once in their life. The only qualification for nominating an album is that, for whatever reason, you feel it is important enough to deserve a place on a list of the top 100 must-listen-to albums of all time. (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg735077#msg735077)"

It is NOT a 'favorites' list: that's left to the 'List of Crap's.

It is not really even about what we 'like', and definitely not what would be on our personal 'Top 100' list; it is about albums that are - for whatever reason - 'important' or 'relevant'.

That is why the description of why people think an album deserves to be on this list is so important: if there is no 'justification' for a nomination, people will simply vote for things they 'like' and certain albums will be left behind that maybe shouldn't be.

On the first two polls nearly 1/2 the votes I gave were given to albums I didn't like, or wouldn't ever listen to again... but which I felt better for having heard.  I know there will be at least two on this one that I will vote for that fit that criteria also.  And there will be some nominations I make during the course of this thread for albums that I won't listen to again.


"Apologies" for the 'space filling' for this post to those who have no trouble remembering these nomination/voting criteria.  "You're welcome" to those who do. ;)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 25, 2012, 08:02:01 PM
I can't like that post enough Lucas....

Anyways, I already nominated Pet Sounds (The Beach Boys) for the next poll, so that's my nom...  but here's a link to the whole damn album on YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGTdmLhKEBk

Honestly, the best way to appreciate this album (if you don't already) is to listen with headphones and keep in mind that the guy who did the writing, arrangements, production, and 90% of the vocals is DEAF IN HIS RIGHT EAR.

While the rest of the Beach Boys were out on tour, Brian Wilson amassed a friggin huge group of studio musicians to record this album, having each one play SEPARATELY (no backing tracks to play along to... just Wilson metronoming with his hand) in fragmented little segments.... where he spliced everything together in production using tape and scissors.  Many interviews with the musicians have them stating that he'd have one horn play a major dissonant chord, and another instrument play a minor flat.... and neither of them knew how any of the short little recordings would fit into any form of a structured song... only to hear it eventually in its finished form.

Then Wilson recorded EVERY vocal layer of himself for the album, and when the rest of the "Boys" came back, he had each one do a little bit and a few lead vocs for Mike... and replace some of his own vocals with theirs.... but 90% is Brian.

As I stated before, I spent the first 24 years of my life LOATHING the Beach Boys, only to pick up Brian Wilson's "Smile" album (the solo finished version of the lost Beach Boys album unfinished after Pet Sounds), and that led me to give in and listen to Pet Sounds.  I am now in love with Brian's writing and arrangements and he's a personal hero of mine.

Despite my own love of this, it's highly regarded as one of the (if not THE) best albums of all time... and if anything belongs on this list, it's Pet Sounds.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 25, 2012, 08:31:23 PM
Thanks, TU.  :)

Even though Pet Sounds isn't an album I listen to with regularity, I agree: it is one that MUST be on this list!

And with your justification - which was superb, I might add  :) - I plan on digging it out again and listening to it again.  Because even though it is possibly my brother's favorite album, I never knew 90% of what you discussed on how Brian assembled the album.  I knew that he was an amazing person, despite his mental challenges, but that is freaking incredible.

Thanks for the write-up for it, so I can 're-think' the album when I listen to it now.  It would be great if every nomination was accompanied by the depth of info you added. :)


[Funny aside: when my brother and I were kids, I loved the Beach Boys (I believe the first 'adult' album I ever owned was Little Deuce Coup which I got around age 5, when it came out), but my brother was indifferent to them... as life went on, that reversed.]

[EDIT: merely to fix my age when I got Little Deuce Coup.]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Invader_quirk on July 25, 2012, 08:56:47 PM
I'll nominate Reconstruction Site by The Weakerthans. The Weakerthans write some of the best and most insightful lyrics, and their music matches the emotion in the lyrics very well. I love all Weakerthans albums, but I chose Reconstruction Site because I think it is the best album, meaning the order of the songs is important and well-conceived. The album starts off with [Manifest], a short and upbeat song full of hope. Two other songs, spaced evenly across the tracklist, share the same tune and continue the story, with the final installment ending the album. In between are songs that range from optimistic to despairing. Feelings of resignation, frustration, fear, and everything in between are presented beautifully and without being preachy or over-dramatic.

My favorite track, "Plea from a Cat Named Virtute" (which I've posted below), made me cry the first time I heard it, even though I hadn't really caught the lyrics and didn't know why I was crying. It's easily the most profound song written from the perspective of a cat that I've ever heard. I have a feeling it will affect you similarly, LucasM, knowing how much you treasure your cat. :) The song has a sequel on the next album that makes me cry every time. Just seeing the name of that song when we first got the album nearly broke my heart because of how much this fictional cat meant to me.

http://www.youtube.com/v/fdwMkA1WaGU
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 25, 2012, 08:56:56 PM
Thanks, TU.  :)

Even though Pet Sounds isn't an album I listen to with regularity, I agree: it is one that MUST be on this list!

And with your justification - which was superb, I might add  :) - I plan on digging it out again and listening to it again.  Because even though it is my brother's favorite album, I never knew 90% of what you discussed on how Brian assembled the album.  I knew that he was an amazing person, despite his mental challenges, but that is freaking incredible.

Thanks for the write-up for it, so I can 're-think' the album when I listen to it now.  It would be great if every nomination was accompanied by the depth of info you added. :)


[Funny aside: when my brother and I were kids, I loved the Beach Boys (I believe the first 'adult' album I ever owned was Little Deuce Coup which I got around age 4 or 5), but my brother was indifferent to them... as life went on, that reversed.]

I could honestly go on for hours of Brian Wilson trivia (especially dealing with SMILE. I gathered SO many bootlegs of sessions tracks back in 2005-6 and spent 3 months of unemployment making my OWN mix of the album.... I stopped sleeping and kinda went nuts on my own for a bit there too) but I won't!   His own insanity though really emerged AFTER Pet Sounds (once again, with SMILE).... but his hearing problem (claimed to be from his dad beating him) is actually why he prefers to mix in mono.   Anyways, I've grown to really love even the early BB's music, except I loathe Mike Love. (as does most of the world)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Uhm, even though I wasn't the one to nominate it, I'll say a little something on behalf of In The Court of The Crimson King by King Crimson

First of all what Black Sabbath is to metal, King Crimson is to progressive rock.  I'm not sure if there was any album before this one that could really be classified as "progressive rock" but I'll just say that as far as I know, this was the first.  There sure as hell wasn't anything like it before, and if anyone's aware of how much kCrimson changes/changed over the years.... there hasn't been anything like this album SINCE.

While everyone else was mixing blues, jazz and rock (specifically blues and rock), Robert Fripp and company (also ever-changing) was influenced mostly by classical music... going so far as to play some Holst at their live shows.

ITCOTCK is the first of a legacy of bizarrely soothing and interesting music, and is an album that should be heard by everyone even if just to expose them to something that's "erratically different than the norm" ...  To quote wikipedia: In his 1997 book Rocking the Classics, critic and musicologist Edward Macan notes that In the Court of the Crimson King "may be the most influential progressive rock album ever released". The Who's Pete Townshend was quoted as calling the album "an uncanny masterpiece"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Court_of_the_Crimson_King


The most famous track:  "21st Century Schizoid Man" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLHao_k0BmI

MY favourite track: "Epitaph" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiJy2GT_fBQ

The title track: "In The Court of The Crimson King" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNantlznCA


I was lucky to see King Crimson on their tour with Tool... and Robert Fripp with Porcupine Tree... and Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew with Porcupine Tree... and whatever the hell the most recent ProjeKct was a few years ago.  I hope Fripp never stops.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 25, 2012, 10:00:53 PM
I haven't done so before in this thread (never did in the '103 Movies' thread, either), but in case anyone is interested, these are what I voted for this time (in the order they are listed in the poll), and why:

In The Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson
I wouldn't listen to it regularly, but for many of the reasons TheUnabeefer gave, I voted for it.  My personal King Crimson taste tends much more toward 1981's Discipline, a superb album I may nominate at some point, if someone else doesn't beat me to it [like D.B. did with AXIS ;)].  [Had tickets to see them perform Discipline, but it was an outside venue and - at the entrance - they informed us all that because of the approaching thunderstorm it was cancelled for 'safety reasons' (like we gave a shit about little stuff like possible lightning strikes when Fripp, Belew, Levin and Bruford were nearby almost ready to play! ;D.]

Electric Ladyland - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Y'all know why I voted for this. ;)

The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars - David Bowie
This was the start of 'glam' rock (as well as 'hair metal', 'performance rock' [e.g. Alice Cooper], and more).  While Bowie went on to write and perform many albums that I prefer to this one, it was revolutionary in its time, with him creating a persona that Bowie had to fight hard to lose.  (I actually just watched a superb BBC special on Ziggy, with how it came about and how Bowie finally 'escaped' it.)

Rio - Duran Duran
I actually actively dislike this (DD's music sounds too simplistic and the instruments too 'shallow' for my taste [others may describe it as being 'direct' and 'clean-sounding'... depends how one approaches music]), but this was such a perfect representation of what the '80s were about to so many people, I voted for it.

Gorillaz - Gorillaz
I may very well be mistaken, but it seems to me this might be a breakthrough as the first 'rap' album that is actually musical.  (Endlessly thudding backbeats - regardless of what instrument they are played on - with nothing else but vocal monotone, are not, to me, 'music'.  YMMV)


[[Again: yup... this thread may kill me.  But hey, it's all about music, a soul-enriching experience for me... so maybe I'll at least die happy. ;)]]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Invader_quirk on July 25, 2012, 10:05:48 PM
Gorillaz - Gorillaz
I may very well be mistaken, but it seems to me this might be a breakthrough as the first 'rap' album that is actually musical.  (Endlessly thudding backbeats - regardless of what instrument they are played on - with nothing else but vocal monotone, are not, to me, 'music'.  YMMV)

Exactly. I wouldn't have nominated that particular album because I think the other two are better albums (although Clint Eastwood may be my favorite song from them), but I love almost all Gorillaz because they made rap work. I generally despise rap, but I did not resist Gorillaz at all. They made it immediately clear that the problem with rap was not inherent, but rather the tendency the genre has for insipid lyrics and lack of actual musical merit.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 25, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
My personal King Crimson taste tends much more toward 1981's Discipline, a superb album I may nominate at some point, if someone else doesn't beat me to it [like D.B. did with AXIS ;)].  [Had tickets to see them perform Discipline, but it was an outside venue and - at the entrance - they informed us all that because of the approaching thunderstorm it was cancelled for 'safety reasons' (like we gave a shit about little stuff like possible lightning strikes when Fripp, Belew, Levin and Bruford were nearby almost ready to play! ;D.]

Discipline is easily my favorite King Crimson album and I was definitely planning on nominating it at some point, although it would seem somebody might just beat me to it.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 26, 2012, 03:32:07 AM
Since I suspect there are some people who only visit this list when votin' time comes around, I figured I'd both bolster, and repost, what I included (after the fact) in my nomination for Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland, because given the importance of this album, the proportions just don't seem right in the vote tallies thus far.

When Jimi was first playing with his band, in England, the people who populated the audience were people like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Animals [of course: it was Chaz Chandler who helped get Jimi started with his own band], and ultimately it was the key musicians of the time who first recognized the rare talent that came from this unassuming Seattle-born musician.

Jimi Hendrix is often referred to as 'The Greatest Guitarist Who Has Ever Lived'.  That may, or may not be the case; I think there are very viable reasons for stating so, not the least of which is the depth of emotion he was able to convey via the instrument, though others may focus more on the sheer number of sounds he was able to get out of an instrument most people are lucky to be able to 'strum a little'.  He also was at the forefront of squeezing the most music out of a studio, a tape machine, etc., and using effects to heighten the impact of what he played (e.g. moving sound between speakers, TUNED feedback, creating previously unavailable sound modifiers like what ultimately turned into a mainstay of guitarists: the phase shifter, speeding up/slowing down music as well as reversing it [yes, others such as The Beatles did that as well (but with The Beatles, it was largely Phil Spector twiddling the dials, on this album Jimi did it all himself, and did it better ;) )]).

But what really stands out for Hendrix is his composition.  The way his music flows from one approach to another, the quicksilver morphing from blues, to rock, to 'space' music, to jazz, and back again, or any combination of these (and more) ...or simply all the styles at once.  His lyrics were often science-fiction or fantasy based (or spiritually based, via s-f or fantasy, depending on the listener's predilections).  Hendrix didn't like the sound of his voice singing, but it has a great deal of both grace and power to it.

In this album (as this point is 'buried' below), Jimi Hendrix may have started what became fusion jazz (the entire '3rd album side' is easily its precursor [which is done better than most of those who played fusion jazz in the 70s]).  [Fusion jazz was the music that my friends and I were into (I more than most), while others in our school were into less involved music (simpler pop/rock).]  In the 70s, fusion jazz pretty much took over the magazine 'Down Beat' (the monthly jazz magazine of the time)... certainly those at its forefront were the major winners of the annual readers' poll [e.g. Weather Report, Return to Forever (both of whom you will read more about later in the poll ;))].  And I have found very few hints of that type and depth of music prior to Electric Ladyland.

And all of this: his guitar playing, his composition, his ground-breaking and blending of styles ALL come together on this album.

AXIS, Bold As Love, voted in in the last round, was Hendrix's 'Beethoven's 5th Symphony'.

Electric Ladyland, was his '9th'.  ;D


So: as those in Mayor Daley's Chicago used to say, "vote early, vote often," and make sure that Jimi's exceptional and ground-breaking final studio album makes it into your voting.

Thank you, and good night.  Now, I turn you back over to me, from about three pages back, that some of you likely missed (as the details were added a day or two after the original post):

[Oh... and if possible, listen to this album with headphones on.  You will be richly rewarded.]


This beats out AXIS for my favorite Hendrix album, despite how superb AXIS is (this is my favorite album of all time).  Hendrix raised the bar on what constituted a superb album with AXIS, then topped it with this just 11 months later.  A large majority of the songs on this album - when I am listening to them exclusively (i.e. 'not doing anything else at the same time') - can bring me to tears just from the beauty of the music, as well as much of it giving me head-to-toe goosebumps.

This album is not - by any means - 'background music'.  It fits with Hendrix's statement that [paraphrasing, because I can't remember which of the numerous things I've read about him it came from to find exact wording], "the listener of a particular piece of music should put as much effort into the listening as the artist did in the creation of that piece of music."

This album shows Hendrix's versatility as a composer and musician.  He plays 'space music' (...And the Gods Made Love), beautiful 'orchestral' music without a hint of standard orchestral instruments (1983, A Merman I Should Turn to Be [into] Moon Turn the Tides, Gently, Gently Away [first clip, below]), straight-ahead [well, as 'straight-ahead' as he ever got ;)] rock (Crosstown Traffic), a driving 'field holler' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_holler)-style tune (Gypsy Eyes), 'classic' blues (Voodoo Chile [with an amazing 17 year old Steve Winwood actually keeping up with him in possibly the best keyboard playing of Steve's career], one of the most gut-wrenching odes to lonliness which he does in a sort-of neo-Victorian style (Burning of the Midnight Lamp [lyrics below]),  potentially the start of Jazz-Rock fusion (Rainy Day, Dream Away/Still Raining, Still Dreaming), and to my knowledge, the only cover of a Dylan song that Dylan thought was better than his own version (All Along the Watchtower).  [[Sorry I couldn't link all the tunes to YouTube cuts, but the second flash insert below has the full album, and, if you click the 'YouTube' button on it, it will take you to YouTube, where the uploader indexed where each tune begins.]]

On Electric Ladyland each vinyl 'album side' had a kind-of 'tone' to it, and yet, with all the variety of songs, it still works well as a single album... much like the movements of a symphony work together.

And this album - more than any other I can think of - shows just exactly how much music can possibly 'fit' into the tiny number of minutes each tune lasts [listen to Burning of the Midnight Lamp with eyes closed and try to guess how long it is: Hendrix 'expands time' with his music because there is so much depth to it].


Now for the 'samples':
One of the most incredible tunes he ever recorded (shows him 'playing the studio' every bit as well as the guitar):
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/z_D6qU525MY

And, if you like, [which you should ;)], the full album, with time stamps listed in its written intro on the YouTube site so you can jump to any tune on it:
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/dAmvgGZkIL0

Burning of the Midnight Lamp.  Lyrics are below so you can read them afterwards, but listen with eyes closed to get the depth of the music first, OK?
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/smNJQZxZMeA

Burning of the Midnight Lamp lyrics [spoiled for size]
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Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on July 26, 2012, 07:54:11 AM
I voted for Ziggy Stardust, Electric Ladyland and Paul's Boutique (even though I think the Beastie Boys are overrated).
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on July 26, 2012, 08:20:32 AM
For the next round I nominate
The Police
Synchronicity
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 26, 2012, 09:25:04 AM
Gorillaz - Gorillaz
I may very well be mistaken, but it seems to me this might be a breakthrough as the first 'rap' album that is actually musical.  (Endlessly thudding backbeats - regardless of what instrument they are played on - with nothing else but vocal monotone, are not, to me, 'music'.  YMMV)

Exactly. I wouldn't have nominated that particular album because I think the other two are better albums (although Clint Eastwood may be my favorite song from them), but I love almost all Gorillaz because they made rap work. I generally despise rap, but I did not resist Gorillaz at all. They made it immediately clear that the problem with rap was not inherent, but rather the tendency the genre has for insipid lyrics and lack of actual musical merit.

Yeah, well, I think that Plastic Beach and Demon Days are pretty awesome, but I decided to go with the first one because as much as I love the other albums, this one feels more like a game changer while the other ones are simply very strong continuations.  Personally, I like some rap, but what you might like about rap depends on what you enjoy in the art of it.  I think that there's a lot that depends on repeated sounds and there is an art to that, which is the same art in dance music, but since I'm not into dancing, I find a lot of it monotonous.  But there is some really great stuff out there if you look for it.

Gorillaz - Gorillaz
I may very well be mistaken, but it seems to me this might be a breakthrough as the first 'rap' album that is actually musical. 

What about this.
http://www.youtube.com/v/yG_rEqCivn4

Sorry, I thought you said "a" musical.  Saying that rap is generally not musical isn't really fair.  I'm sure you have no intent to belittle, but I think the world of rap is far richer than you imply.  I mean, it would be like suggesting that modern rock is awful by basing your analysis on Foster the People and Nickelback.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 26, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
Personally, I like some rap, but what you might like about rap depends on what you enjoy in the art of it.  I think that there's a lot that depends on repeated sounds and there is an art to that, which is the same art in dance music, but since I'm not into dancing, I find a lot of it monotonous.  But there is some really great stuff out there if you look for it.

I agree 100% with what you say (that I highlighted in red).  That is also the essence of many raga-style tunes [I'll get back to that with later nominations ;) ].  It is also the absolute CORE of ambient/'chill' music [which I will also get back to with later nominations ;) ].


Gorillaz - Gorillaz
I may very well be mistaken, but it seems to me this might be a breakthrough as the first 'rap' album that is actually musical.

Saying that rap is generally not musical isn't really fair.  I'm sure you have no intent to belittle, but I think the world of rap is far richer than you imply.  I mean, it would be like suggesting that modern rock is awful by basing your analysis on Foster the People and Nickelback.

You cut out the relevant part of my original comment to what would be my response to that (in particular, that part here highlighted with red, bold, italic, etc.):
Gorillaz - Gorillaz
I may very well be mistaken, but it seems to me this might be a breakthrough as the first 'rap' album that is actually musical.  (Endlessly thudding backbeats - regardless of what instrument they are played on - with nothing else but vocal monotone, are not, to me, 'music'.  YMMV)

It was my opinion on what I've heard before.  I didn't say it as an objective statement of fact about rap.  "I don't like what I've heard," is what that boiled down to.  There may very well be 'good' rap out there, but what would constitute 'good rap' to me would be so rare I'd spend all my time listening to stuff that would cause severe problems for me: with the head injuries, loud minimally-altering, throbbing sound is pretty much guaranteed to cause a headache from 'subclinical' seizure activity; thanks to the PTSD I got from the same accidents causing the head injuries, loud 'yelling' voices result in a full-body cringing, increased blood pressure and heartrate, and tension/agitation that may take DAYS to calm down.  I don't care to dig through the stuff that would cause all this for me on the off-chance that I MIGHT find something that I actually could listen to and enjoy.  So I generally avoid the genre as a whole.  [Gorillaz was initially heard by me by accident: I happened to be watching The Colbert Report and they were on, and I was surprised and amazed.]



[[This, actually, is a good example of why I've not expressed what I voted for before in this thread, nor did I ever do so on the '103 Films' poll: because it takes so much out of me to explain my position [this post took two hours to write]... and I tend to do so regardless of the condition I'm in (which is very 'not good' right now).  [My action: my responsibility for doing so.]

[[I would LOVE to share my thoughts like this, and clarify my viewpoint... that's one of the joys of communicating for me (especially about music!).  But - in the condition I am in, and have been in since last October - I really just can't afford to.  It causes too much damage (as pushing myself mentally has resulted in a permanent increase in my seizure disorder, for which I will have to take additional meds the rest of my life... I keep it up, and it continues to get worse :( ).]]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 26, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
What is YMMV?  You Make Music Videos?  Yogurt My Mother Vents?  This is not a thing I know.

But I certainly understand where you are coming from.  There's a lot of art I don't get or care for but I know there's probably more going on than my underdeveloped palate can understand.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 26, 2012, 11:52:19 AM
What is YMMV?  You Make Music Videos?  Yogurt My Mother Vents?  This is not a thing I know.

But I certainly understand where you are coming from.  There's a lot of art I don't get or care for but I know there's probably more going on than my underdeveloped palate can understand.

YMMV is one of the older 'internetisms': "Your Mileage May Vary".  [useful link I have bookmarked: http://www.acronymfinder.com/ (http://www.acronymfinder.com/)]

And, as I try to do with my expressions of my taste, I describe it as such: MY taste.  There are people who like many things I don't, and many people dislike things that I do.  Each person has developed their own responses over their lifetime, and their brain chemistry and wiring respond differently to the same stimulus because of it.  It makes the world an interesting place: if there wasn't the variety there is, I'd never find the kind of things that I REALLY enjoy and that affect me so deeply, as I'm not skilled enough to produce them myself.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 26, 2012, 11:54:04 AM
Funny, it occurred to me it could have been Your Musical Mojo May Vary, but then I realized that was 3 "M"s.  Somehow, "Mileage" never occurred to me.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 26, 2012, 11:57:34 AM
Funny, it occurred to me it could have been Your Musical Mojo May Vary, but then I realized that was 3 "M"s.  Somehow, "Mileage" never occurred to me.

It is possible it originated with TV auto ads.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 26, 2012, 12:02:40 PM
BTW, listened to Electric Lady Land in prep for this.  Damned fine album, though I can't articulate beyond it's very funky and with great guitar work.  Looking forward to the rest of the albums.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: gojikranz on July 26, 2012, 01:02:13 PM
nice writeups on king crimson there.  cant add too much for it.  glad to see the love for discipline, i like pretty much all their incarnations for one reason or another but the 80s stuff is probably my favorite and my actual all time favorite release is absent lovers live show from the 3 of a perfect pair tour a great summation of all the 80s works.  with a little red and larks tongues in aspic 2 to liven things up.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 26, 2012, 04:18:25 PM
FYI. I got the master spreadsheet up and running, so you can check what's been nominated, what's won, number of votes, etc.

Here's the spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhKdsDgBJU6TdDMxamZ5STk1VE5OaVZUakRWN0dyamc) on Google docs.

There's a permanent link embedded in the first post of the thread (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg735077#msg735077).
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 26, 2012, 04:47:48 PM
I think the next thing I nominate will be a Pixies album, but I'm having trouble with which one to nominate.  This is gonna take some soul searching.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 26, 2012, 05:33:21 PM
I think the next thing I nominate will be a Pixies album, but I'm having trouble with which one to nominate.  This is gonna take some soul searching.

I think Doolittle is their strongest as an album, and also a great entry point.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on July 26, 2012, 05:50:49 PM
I think I'll nominate The Lonesome Crowded West by Modest Mouse. It's very close between that and This is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About, but overall LCW has held up a bit better. Earlier I talked about an album that took several listens to really get. Actually, I may have mentioned this specifically, but I'll restate my feelings here. Basically, I believe that for an album to really last, it has to have something that you can't appreciate immediately—something that has to keep after you for you to eventually realize you can't live without it. Like that Death Cab for Cutie song (from an album I will probably nominate at some point), "You've got to take some time, love ... and I know that you'll find ... I will posses your heart."

So I hope you will take the time to listen to TLCW early enough that you can hear it often enough to fall in love with it. It's an hour and 13 minute journey that I always find cathartic. Like they say, "my brain is the cliff and my heart's the bitter buffalo."

http://www.youtube.com/v/5Qrsrj7zsLg

http://www.youtube.com/v/OjecIllOEio

http://www.youtube.com/v/f43WbnN2tBU
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 26, 2012, 06:48:18 PM
Can't function enough to add details now, but nominating:

Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior

for the next round.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 26, 2012, 06:56:46 PM
Can't function enough to add details now, but nominating:

Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior

for the next round.

Fuck yeah. Check out Lucas bringin' the fusion! This is an absolutely amazing album. If you haven't heard it before, you're in for a real musical treat.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 26, 2012, 07:14:41 PM
I think the next thing I nominate will be a Pixies album, but I'm having trouble with which one to nominate.  This is gonna take some soul searching.

I think Doolittle is their strongest as an album, and also a great entry point.

That's what I was thinking, but Surfer Rosa is also really tempting due to the presence of "Cactus" (my all time favourite Pixies song), "Where is My Mind" and "Bone Machine".  Then again Doolittle has "Wave of Mutilation", "Monkey Gone to Heaven" and "Gouge Away".  I'll probably go with it, but this is a tough one.  I'll spend a little more time thinking of it.  I suppose the other tricky part is I really got into Frank Black long after the Pixies broke up (which is why I might be the only guy in the world who prefers, on the whole, Frank's solo stuff.  I love Cult of Ray) so I got into Pixies by downloading random songs on Napster, so a lot of their work doesn't register as albums in my mind and it all blends together.  Still looking up Doolittle, it was nominated as several best albums of all time list, so that just makes sense.  Go popularity.

I nominate Doolittle - Pixies
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Space version 2.0 on July 26, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
I think I'll nominate The Lonesome Crowded West by Modest Mouse.
Always been my favourite.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: gojikranz on July 27, 2012, 01:27:00 AM
Can't function enough to add details now, but nominating:

Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior

for the next round.

Fuck yeah. Check out Lucas bringin' the fusion! This is an absolutely amazing album. If you haven't heard it before, you're in for a real musical treat.

agreed phil collins haters get ready.  there are some amazing live shows from these guys too if you like them.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 27, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
Can't function enough to add details now, but nominating:

Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior

for the next round.

Fuck yeah. Check out Lucas bringin' the fusion! This is an absolutely amazing album. If you haven't heard it before, you're in for a real musical treat.

agreed phil collins haters get ready.  there are some amazing live shows from these guys too if you like them.

It is Soooooo not a Phil Collins 'band'; he was in it for the first couple albums, but there isn't a single bandmember that stands out as 'special' in it.  [And I've got more to say about them when I'm functioning again.  ...Just don't want "Phil Collins haters" to be primed to hate something that sounds nothing like Phil Collins' other work.]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on July 27, 2012, 12:00:49 PM
We need some country in here, I nomitate for a coming round

Van Lear Rose--Loretta Lynn and Jack White

Its tough choosing just one Loretta album, also really enjoy Back to Country.  The Pill is classic.
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Post by: Invader_quirk on July 27, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
We need some country in here

(http://iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de/mlp/gif/131275510162.gif?1313405480)

In all seriousness, nominate whatever you want. I have never once heard a country song that didn't make me cringe, though. And I grew up in Kansas; I've heard more than my share.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: gojikranz on July 27, 2012, 03:39:41 PM
Can't function enough to add details now, but nominating:

Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior

for the next round.

Fuck yeah. Check out Lucas bringin' the fusion! This is an absolutely amazing album. If you haven't heard it before, you're in for a real musical treat.

agreed phil collins haters get ready.  there are some amazing live shows from these guys too if you like them.

It is Soooooo not a Phil Collins 'band'; he was in it for the first couple albums, but there isn't a single bandmember that stands out as 'special' in it.  [And I've got more to say about them when I'm functioning again.  ...Just don't want "Phil Collins haters" to be primed to hate something that sounds nothing like Phil Collins' other work.]

well i think phil definately stands out as special in there.  as does morris pert and john giblin and percy jones and robin lumley.  brilliant band.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 27, 2012, 04:12:37 PM
In all seriousness, nominate whatever you want. I have never once heard a country song that didn't make me cringe, though. And I grew up in Kansas; I've heard more than my share.

What about Johnny Cash?  I think American Recordings IV would be a great nomination.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on July 27, 2012, 05:22:36 PM
Or

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XBMZT4HDL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

or this one

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_U1menI3veIs/TMu9yIE3alI/AAAAAAAACzM/cjyiRv32xNs/s400/the+first+edition+-+st+1967+front.jpg)

Country is pretty shitty these days, but this isn;t to say there's never been good tunes, I mean universally good ones.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 27, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
I've always been a fan of Hank Williams (the first).  That's some good stuff there.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on July 27, 2012, 05:29:59 PM
Sod it I'll nominate this one:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_U1menI3veIs/TMu9yIE3alI/AAAAAAAACzM/cjyiRv32xNs/s400/the+first+edition+-+st+1967+front.jpg)

The First Edition - The First Edition

You have to hear the album this

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/yhOKhJaM1QE

came from y'all.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 27, 2012, 05:36:09 PM

County is pretty shitty these days, but this isn;t to say there's never been good tunes, I mean universally good ones.

Yeah, the current trend is referred to (derogatorily) as country-politan and most of what I hear of the modern stuff is bland.

Still, there was a column that I love on AV Club that's a great way to learn about country from a writer who was pretty unfamiliar with the genre (he was really more of a hip-hop fan).  It's a great read (although I wish they didn't list it in reverse chronological order).

http://www.avclub.com/features/nashville-or-bust/2/

EDIT: You better write the title and bold it, or Barnes might miss it.
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Post by: LucasM on July 27, 2012, 06:20:19 PM
spoilered for space reasons (since the rest of this is just above)
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well i think phil definately stands out as special in there.  as does morris pert and john giblin and percy jones and robin lumley.  brilliant band.

Yes: I meant "stands out as noticeably head and shoulders above the rest of the band members".  Yes, they were all excellent, that's why I nominated that album (and will likely nominate another before this is done).  My brain just hasn't been functioning enough (since all the stuff I wrote on Wednesday) to be as specific as I usually am right off the bat at this point.

  [P.S. You forgot John Goodsall. ;) ]
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EDIT:
I just wanted to make sure this hadn't sounded like I was upset or irritated (other than with my current condition).  When I'm way past my limits I write VERY concretely (i.e. emotionless/'technical'-type writing) and don't intend to sound snippy or something, but it may read that way as things tend to be stated rather 'short'.

The same was true of my interchange with Johnny Unusual on the top of the previous page and the bottom of the one prior to that, leading up to when I said:
YMMV is one of the older 'internetisms': "Your Mileage May Vary".  [useful link I have bookmarked: http://www.acronymfinder.com/ (http://www.acronymfinder.com/)]
I was NOT saying, "older, so you should know it," I was saying, "older - as in possibly 'ancient history of the internet'; and possibly as archaic as if I'd said something was 'groovy' or 'far out' in real life".

Hopefully that clarifies a bit.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on July 27, 2012, 09:37:50 PM
Still, there was a column that I love on AV Club that's a great way to learn about country from a writer who was pretty unfamiliar with the genre (he was really more of a hip-hop fan).  It's a great read (although I wish they didn't list it in reverse chronological order).

http://www.avclub.com/features/nashville-or-bust/2/

EDIT: You better write the title and bold it, or Barnes might miss it.
Bookmarked that and fixed my post. :)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 27, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
[since likely most people don't go back to see if earlier posts were edited, I just wanted to point out the edit to my post just above Tripe's]

[now back to your regularly-scheduled thread...]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 28, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
Okay, we've got ten nominations for round four.

Here's what I've got; let me know if I missed anything.

Elvis - Elvis Presley - MartyS (Gromit)
Reconstruction Site - The Weakerthans - Invader_quirk
Synchronicity - The Police - Gunflyer
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds - TheUnabeefer
The Joshua Tree - U2 - Starman!
The Lonesome Crowded West - Modest Mouse - Asbestos Bill
Unorthodox Behavior - Brand X -LucasM
Doolittle - Pixies - Johnny Unusual
Van Lear Rose - Loretta Lynn and Jack White - Mrs. Dick Courier
The First Edition - The First Edition - Tripe H. Redux

Please hold off on new nominations until the next poll starts.

I keep forgetting to nominate until it's already full up!  :grr:
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 28, 2012, 11:42:04 AM
Okay, we've got ten nominations for round four.

Please hold off on new nominations until the next poll starts.

I keep forgetting to nominate until it's already full up!  :grr:

I think the rest of us would allow you to make an exception to your "no 2nd-round-from-now-nominations" for yourself under these circumstances. :)  I mean, shit, you're doing a ton of work for this, you ought to be able to participate beyond just voting.

Any objections to D.B. being able to nominate 'a round in advance' of current nominations?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 28, 2012, 02:18:44 PM
Okay, we've got ten nominations for round four.

Please hold off on new nominations until the next poll starts.

I keep forgetting to nominate until it's already full up!  :grr:

I think the rest of us would allow you to make an exception to your "no 2nd-round-from-now-nominations" for yourself under these circumstances. :)  I mean, shit, you're doing a ton of work for this, you ought to be able to participate beyond just voting.

Any objections to D.B. being able to nominate 'a round in advance' of current nominations?

None from me... Now quit brown-nosing, Lucas!
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 28, 2012, 07:41:44 PM
Okay, we've got ten nominations for round four.

Please hold off on new nominations until the next poll starts.

I keep forgetting to nominate until it's already full up!  :grr:

I think the rest of us would allow you to make an exception to your "no 2nd-round-from-now-nominations" for yourself under these circumstances. :)  I mean, shit, you're doing a ton of work for this, you ought to be able to participate beyond just voting.

Any objections to D.B. being able to nominate 'a round in advance' of current nominations?

None from me... Now quit brown-nosing, Lucas!

Well, it's his rule, he should be able to write himself an exemption.   ;D
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on July 30, 2012, 01:02:07 PM
I agree, the new country sucks, that's why I stick to the 60s and 70s pretty much.  And some 80s.

Been going though my mom's old records, Conway, Loretta, Johnny...some good stuff there.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 30, 2012, 02:28:35 PM
I'll stick to Fiddlin' John Carson .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddlin%27_John_Carson
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MontyServo on July 30, 2012, 06:20:33 PM
I am going to be nominating a country album next round.  Just so everyone is aware.

My favorite country album evar!

But I will keep it a secret until the nominating opens up again.

Just want to have a place holder here so I don't miss out on nominating again.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MontyServo on July 30, 2012, 06:31:11 PM
I agree, the new country sucks, that's why I stick to the 60s and 70s pretty much.  And some 80s.

Been going though my mom's old records, Conway, Loretta, Johnny...some good stuff there.

Conway Twitty was just fantastic.

Don't listen to anything Country newer than early '90s, I would guess.  (What A Crying Shame by The Mavericks is one of my all time favorite albums in any genre and I think that came out in '92 or '93)  And "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" by David Frizzell and Shelly West is one of my all time favorite songs in any genre but that was early '80s.

There are a few exceptions to that rule, but for the most part I don't pay modern country any mind at all and would rather listen to Don Williams or Mickey Gilley.  That sort of thing.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 30, 2012, 07:00:47 PM
I am going to be nominating a country album next round.  Just so everyone is aware.

My favorite country album evar!

But I will keep it a secret until the nominating opens up again.

Just want to have a place holder here so I don't miss out on nominating again.

It's Kellie Pickler, isn't it?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 30, 2012, 07:47:07 PM
I had a thought, that I think might help with the voting.

I think submissions should be made 'cold' - with no details on the why.  Then, when the poll is up, that would be when the person submitting the album could explain why it was relevant/important/whatever enough to be 'worth' everyone's vote.  If all were done on the first day of polling (or soon after), then all could be easily referenced.  [I did not do that this round on purpose, but it probably helped me get to this idea, that I was too fried at the time I submitted to write anything.  (Sadly, I still am.)]

Searching for all the 'justifications' once one has found the albums to listen to (or time to listen to them) is VERY energy-intensive.  I suspect that most people who vote (since I do not believe there have been 24 people posting in this thread, but I believe the last poll had about 24 voters), won't look back on the 'why' and will simply vote what they 'like', which would defeat the point of this poll.

Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 30, 2012, 08:12:05 PM
I had a thought, that I think might help with the voting.

I think submissions should be made 'cold' - with no details on the why.  Then, when the poll is up, that would be when the person submitting the album could explain why it was relevant/important/whatever enough to be 'worth' everyone's vote.  If all were done on the first day of polling (or soon after), then all could be easily referenced.  [I did not do that this round on purpose, but it probably helped me get to this idea, that I was too fried at the time I submitted to write anything.  (Sadly, I still am.)]

Searching for all the 'justifications' once one has found the albums to listen to (or time to listen to them) is VERY energy-intensive.  I suspect that most people who vote (since I do not believe there have been 24 people posting in this thread, but I believe the last poll had about 24 voters), won't look back on the 'why' and will simply vote what they 'like', which would defeat the point of this poll.

Any thoughts on this?

Sounds logical... As long as we remember to do that once the poll goes up!  I'm not going to repeat my post for Pet Sounds when it comes up, but I may link to the post.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 30, 2012, 08:23:56 PM
Sadly I didn't get the time to listen to a lot of these so I decided to make the vote now before I lost the chance.  The only new ones I listened to were King Crimson (I liked it more than I thought I would as I tend to find prog rock a bit boring) and Electric Ladyland.  Looking forward to listening to more down the line.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on July 30, 2012, 08:37:21 PM
I had a thought, that I think might help with the voting.

I think submissions should be made 'cold' - with no details on the why.  Then, when the poll is up, that would be when the person submitting the album could explain why it was relevant/important/whatever enough to be worth everyone's vote.  If all were done on the first day of polling (or soon after), then all could be easily referenced.  [I did not do that this round on purpose, but it probably helped me get to this idea, that I was too fried at the time I submitted to write anything.  (Sadly, I still am.)]

Searching for all the justifications once one has found the albums to listen to (or time to listen to them) is VERY energy-intensive.  I suspect that most people who vote (since I do not believe there have been 24 people posting in this thread, but I believe the last poll had about 24 voters), won't look back on the why and will simply vote what they like, which would defeat the point of this poll.

Any thoughts on this?

Sounds logical... As long as we remember to do that once the poll goes up!  I'm not going to repeat my post for Pet Sounds when it comes up, but I may link to the post.

That might even be better :) : if everyone linked to their justification post the day the new poll went up.  That way we'd have an index of them when the poll was up, but could have discussed them beforehand (and for early birds who listened as they went, have had them when listening in advance of the new poll).

[Edit for punctuation only.]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on July 31, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I agree, the new country sucks, that's why I stick to the 60s and 70s pretty much.  And some 80s.

Been going though my mom's old records, Conway, Loretta, Johnny...some good stuff there.

Conway Twitty was just fantastic.

Don't listen to anything Country newer than early '90s, I would guess.  (What A Crying Shame by The Mavericks is one of my all time favorite albums in any genre and I think that came out in '92 or '93)  And "You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma" by David Frizzell and Shelly West is one of my all time favorite songs in any genre but that was early '80s.

There are a few exceptions to that rule, but for the most part I don't pay modern country any mind at all and would rather listen to Don Williams or Mickey Gilley.  That sort of thing.

I love the Mavericks, his voice is just amazing.

My best friends uncle was friends with Conway, he lived in Nashville for a while before coming back home.  Told me Conway was the best friend he'd ever had.  That when he had cancer and had some money problems he gave him a lot of money, and helped him though it.  And he wouldn't take the money back, said it was a gift.  My friend actually met Conway once when she vistied her uncle.   I'm still super jealous about it.

Talented and a good person.  Makes me love him even more.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: goflyblind on July 31, 2012, 10:45:07 AM
gary allan's first three albums great, but not something i'd nominate for this list.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 31, 2012, 12:04:37 PM
I haven't heard this in ages, and it made for some very enjoyable work listening this morning. I much prefer this album to Licensed to Ill. Totally gets my vote.

http://www.youtube.com/v/BptQHAW2T5M?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


I've never been able to get into Phish. I'm just completely bored by them.

I finally decided to vote for Rio, but man, that is a pretty uneven album. A mix of great songs and completely forgettable songs.

Also voted for In The Court of the Crimson King, Electric Ladyland, The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust, and Gorillaz.


Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 01, 2012, 01:46:49 PM
I finally decided to vote for Rio, but man, that is a pretty uneven album. A mix of great songs and completely forgettable songs.
I love the whole album. It's very beautiful, upbeat and a lot of fun from beginning until the end.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 01, 2012, 07:47:18 PM
Here's a partial explanation for my nomination of:

Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior

After the first time I got to see them live I was able to go backstage [where I got them all to sign the cover of their second album, Moroccan Roll (I'd taken it with me; likely what got me backstage)].  I was then able to talk to Robin Lumley for about an hour.  During the talk with Lumley, he stated that the band first got together in the studio and basically built every tune by just noodling around and saving and expanding on what sounded good.  But this album sounds like it was composed by one person it is so flawlessly integrated.

Over the years, the lineup of Brand X has changed rather dramatically.  Those in this seminal band are Robin Lumley on keyboards, John Goodsall on guitar, Percy Jones largely on fretless bass [takes a lot of talent to play fretless in tune, as the fingers must go exactly where the frets would have been], and Phil Collins on drums and percussion.  All four are exceptional musicians, and, though the tunes alternate who is 'showcased' at certain points, none of them dominate the band.  A perfect set of equals.


When you listen to these tunes, with your ideas about where the music is going to go, be prepared to be delightfully surprised.  The band is not predictable in their compositions.  But what they do is both complex musically, yet at the same time accessible.

Oh, and if you only intend to listen to one tune, I'd go with Euthanasia Waltz, though every one is exceptional.

No complete album for this that I can find on YouTube, so I'll assemble it for you:

Track 1: Nuclear Burn
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/QCif573CZs4

Track 2: Euthanasia Waltz
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/BqrrJ9Ma8k8

Track 3: Born Ugly
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/TALWkw3cWqA

Track 4: Smacks of Euphoric Hysteria
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/QbX67b655KA

Track 5: Unorthodox Behavior
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/HDeEqsmConQ

Track 6: Running On Three
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/tGwKuANKdlg

Well damn it all to hell!  It appears no-one has uploaded to YouTube the final track of the album which finishes the album beautifully, with all four on acoustic instruments.  >:(
Track 7: Touch Wood
If anyone can find this (or the complete album for easy embedding), please let me know and I'll modify this.


When Unorthodox Behavior was recorded, Percy Jones and Phil Collins had just finished a stint with Brian Eno on Another Green World.  The tune Unorthodox Behavior starts nearly exactly like Over Fire Island, a tune from Eno's Another Green World, but then goes in a totally different direction after about 10-20 seconds.  Here is that Eno tune for those interested in comparing:
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/tZItWvebsXc
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on August 02, 2012, 02:28:49 AM
We should do a Riffboard census one of these days, I think it would be interesting
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 02, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Okay, round three winners are as follows:

In The Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson
Electric Ladyland - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Paul's Boutique - Beastie Boys
The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
Rio - Duran Duran


New poll is up.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Invader_quirk on August 02, 2012, 10:23:55 AM
Here's my justification for Reconstruction Site. (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg739007#msg739007)
EDIT: I've also assembled the entire album.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MontyServo on August 02, 2012, 02:36:38 PM
For the next poll:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZNSpLuU%2BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

The Mavericks - What A Crying Shame
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 02, 2012, 02:51:48 PM
Ænema - Tool

(http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/tool_aenima.jpg)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Space version 2.0 on August 02, 2012, 02:56:38 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiSZegreNV7pGP2i8_UaLScb282p0bO6TOM0JO3prCQ2KAlpvdjg)

Life'll Kill Ya - Warren Zevon

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 02, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
For those just showing up for the voting (who don't read the thread), in case you missed it for this round, here is my rationale for nominating Brand X's Unorthodox Behavior. (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg740600#msg740600)  All but the last tune are supplied in that post.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 02, 2012, 05:28:34 PM
And here's the link to my post on Pet Sounds with a link to a youtube video of essentially the whole album...  http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg738988#msg738988

Now I'm going to go listen to this in surround sound!
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 02, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
My nomination for the next round (since nearly 1/3 of the spaces are already filled!)

Roxy Music - Avalon


EDIT: details, links to music, etc. are here: http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg741655#msg741655 (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg741655#msg741655)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 02, 2012, 06:25:58 PM
I'm sitting out the next round to allow for other people to toss some stuff in.  If nominations are needed still before the poll closes, I may submit one though.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Invader_quirk on August 02, 2012, 06:36:56 PM
They Might Be Giants - Join Us
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on August 02, 2012, 06:42:01 PM
For the next round, I'll nominate Ten by Pearl Jam.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 02, 2012, 07:07:14 PM
For the next round, I'll nominate Ten by Pearl Jam.

I second this.  I was JUST looking at while trying to think of what to listen to tomorrow at work... GREAT album, and highly influential.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 02, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
I love Synchronicity so damn much. Anybody remember the part in Werewolf where Tom Servo sings "Hey mighty Brontosauraus... don't you have a message for us?!"

For the next round... I nominate...

Queen - A night at the opera

BTW I changed my nomination because I don't think many peeps here have listened to, let alone heard of Innuendo. :(
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 02, 2012, 07:41:08 PM
For the next round, I'll nominate Ten by Pearl Jam.

I second this.  I was JUST looking at while trying to think of what to listen to tomorrow at work... GREAT album, and highly influential.

Yeah, that's an automatic vote from me. I actually grew to prefer Vs, but there's no denying the importance and awesomeness of Ten.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 02, 2012, 07:45:34 PM
Yeah, that's an automatic vote from me. I actually grew to prefer Vs, but there's no denying the importance and awesomeness of Ten.
It's too bad Anais.Jude isn't here anymore... she was a fan of Pearl Jam.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 02, 2012, 08:09:01 PM
For the next round, I'll nominate Ten by Pearl Jam.

I second this.  I was JUST looking at while trying to think of what to listen to tomorrow at work... GREAT album, and highly influential.

Yeah, that's an automatic vote from me. I actually grew to prefer Vs, but there's no denying the importance and awesomeness of Ten.

I'm a No Code fan myself (don't get me wrong, I'm just a straight-up PJ fan), but I'd also still pick Ten as the one PJ album people need to hear.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 02, 2012, 09:18:37 PM
Yeah, that's an automatic vote from me. I actually grew to prefer Vs, but there's no denying the importance and awesomeness of Ten.
It's too bad Anais.Jude isn't here anymore... she was a fan of Pearl Jam.

I have reason to suspect she's lurking around..... >.>  <.<
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on August 03, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Yeah, that's an automatic vote from me. I actually grew to prefer Vs, but there's no denying the importance and awesomeness of Ten.
It's too bad Anais.Jude isn't here anymore... she was a fan of Pearl Jam.

I have reason to suspect she's lurking around..... >.>  <.<

Yay, listened to the Nightmare 4 riff yesterday and was worrying about her :)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Invader_quirk on August 03, 2012, 09:54:36 PM
Yay, listened to the Nightmare 4 riff yesterday and was worrying about her :)

She came over to watch our new QuipTrack for Abduction. It was nice to meet her. She was really nice (and laughed a lot :D).
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 04, 2012, 01:31:25 AM
What's the story on soundtrack albums? Are they okay to nominate?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 04, 2012, 03:23:52 AM
[Maybe] interesting aside for a tune off one album in the previous round:  The core of the music in the Beastie Boys' tune '33% God' is from the tune 'Born to Love You' from Rose Royce's soundtrack music for the film 'Car Wash' [that soundtrack album has some superb cuts on it, when one ignores things like 'Daddy Rich' and the title cut... not good enough for me to consider nominating (or I'd be still more interested in the answer to Gunflyer's question), but still some good stuff].


I'm guessing a definite 'no' to Gunflyer's question if the album amounts to a greatest hits (e.g. The Big Chill, was it, that practically had no new incidental music in it, just all '60s hits?), and a 'probably no' for other soundtracks, as they were created to support a film, rather than to provide a unique listening experience on their own (regardless of whether they actually can stand by themselves, that was not the intention for their production).  That's my guess, at any rate.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ig88ftw on August 04, 2012, 08:12:53 PM
Woo, Ziggy Stardust is already in the list. I don't even have to nominate anything. Good work, guys :D
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on August 04, 2012, 08:30:18 PM
(http://images.wikia.com/lyricwiki/images/6/64/Black_Sabbath_-_Paranoid.jpg)

Black Sabbath - Paranoid

A great album with some fantastic track on it, I also love the cover; not sure who the bloke actually was but I like to think he's the owner of the curry house Ozzy and the other frequented who agreed to let them off a few bills if they let him show up on the cover. :)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 04, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
What's the story on soundtrack albums? Are they okay to nominate?

I'm fine with them as long as they are actual released albums.... not just "Dude, ya gotta hear the music from this movie! It's epic!!!"
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 04, 2012, 09:07:36 PM
Woo, Ziggy Stardust is already in the list. I don't even have to nominate anything. Good work, guys :D

Hey there. We do a new poll each week, so feel free to nominate an album for the next poll.

All the relevant info for the thread is included in the first post. (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg735077#msg735077)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 04, 2012, 09:12:05 PM
What's the story on soundtrack albums? Are they okay to nominate?

What's the story on soundtrack albums? Are they okay to nominate?

I'm fine with them as long as they are actual released albums.... not just "Dude, ya gotta hear the music from this movie! It's epic!!!"

I don't know about that one. What did you have in mind? I kinda wanna stay away from albums that are just compilations.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on August 04, 2012, 09:19:14 PM
I'd allow it if it was original music for the movie, so these might be acceptable:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Patgarrett_billythekid_cover.jpg)

And I guess the scores of a bunch of them, the one above is the only one of the top of my head that was both incidental music and lyrical but there are probably others.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ig88ftw on August 04, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Woo, Ziggy Stardust is already in the list. I don't even have to nominate anything. Good work, guys :D

Hey there. We do a new poll each week, so feel free to nominate an album for the next poll.

All the relevant info for the thread is included in the first post. (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg735077#msg735077)


Caught that, was just happy to see my all time favorite album had already made the cut.

Just a quick question: I have a nomination, but it's from a band that's already been nominated (on this page even), but a different album. Is that okay?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 04, 2012, 09:40:26 PM
Woo, Ziggy Stardust is already in the list. I don't even have to nominate anything. Good work, guys :D

Hey there. We do a new poll each week, so feel free to nominate an album for the next poll.

All the relevant info for the thread is included in the first post. (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg735077#msg735077)

Just a quick question: I have a nomination, but it's from a band that's already been nominated (on this page even), but a different album. Is that okay?

Multiple nominations from the same band are fine, but let's limit each band to one album per poll.


I'd allow it if it was original music for the movie, so these might be acceptable:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Patgarrett_billythekid_cover.jpg)

And I guess the scores of a bunch of them, the one above is the only one of the top of my head that was both incidental music and lyrical but there are probably others.

Yeah, scores seems fine. For other shit, we can just judge them on a case-by-case basis.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 04, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
I don't know about that one. What did you have in mind? I kinda wanna stay away from albums that are just compilations.
I was thinking about the soundtrack to the film "Heavy Metal"
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 04, 2012, 10:00:12 PM
I don't know about that one. What did you have in mind? I kinda wanna stay away from albums that are just compilations.
I was thinking about the soundtrack to the film "Heavy Metal"

Hmmm, I'd be inclined to say no to that one. Shouldn't we limit it to soundtracks where all of the music was originally composed for the film?

Feel free to weigh in with opinions, here.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ig88ftw on August 04, 2012, 10:08:36 PM
Primus - Sailing The Seas Of Cheese

(http://images.wikia.com/lyricwiki/images/c/c8/Primus_-_Sailing_The_Seas_Of_Cheese.jpg)


I haven't quite figured out how to post youtube videos here just yet, but key tracks include:

Jerry Was A Race Car Driver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55CH_8YOBQc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55CH_8YOBQc)

American Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1F_88UksxA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1F_88UksxA)

Fish On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWlJdSguolY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWlJdSguolY)

No one can deny that Les Claypool is an amazing bass player, and he's also incredibly bizarre. ...seas of cheese contains the most well known Primus track (Jerry), while also being loaded with fan favorites like American Life, Here Come The Bastrds, Fish On, Those Damned Blue Collar Tweekers, and even includes an appearance from the legendary Tom Waits (as the voice of Tommy The Cat on..."Tommy The Cat").  Not bad considering it's only their second album!
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 04, 2012, 11:59:59 PM
I don't know about that one. What did you have in mind? I kinda wanna stay away from albums that are just compilations.
I was thinking about the soundtrack to the film "Heavy Metal"

Hmmm, I'd be inclined to say no to that one. Shouldn't we limit it to soundtracks where all of the music was originally composed for the film?

Feel free to weigh in with opinions, here.

That's a tricky one, for example the soundtrack for The Sting is a great album, but I think only a little of it was written for the film.   Joplin's The Entertainer was reworked into a few different versions by Hamlish for the film.  I've tried listening to albums by Joplin but never found one I like as much as the soundtrack for The Sting.

Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on August 05, 2012, 05:45:38 AM
I think the same standard applies here as it does to best of albums; an album should count if it's an original composition. So best ofs don't qualify and nor would albums that are just compilations of music that feature in the film but would count if they're made up of the music originally written for the film. In fact the thing about whether all the tracks on an album work together would come into play here when deciding if a vote was justified; the score of a movie does follow the plot of the film ideally but some work better absent of the action better than others.

This does make me wonder, do live alums count? The element of originality there seems to be in the fact they capture an one off event (sort of). I don't know any live albums I could nominate as I don't really like live albums but I know some people do, so there might be some that are considered essential.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 05, 2012, 07:32:41 PM
Yeah, my "fine by me" wasn't regarding "various artists: songs from and inspired by" albums so much as they were scores and albums basically written specifically for the film.

Jurassic Park, for example, is a fantastic soundtrack (the first one) ....  and any Bernard Hermann score (although I also don't think any I just mentioned are "need to hear" scale.)  The Bob Dylan one up there is a perfect example of what I would consider acceptable and an actual "album" despite being a film soundtrack.  The Beatles' "Help" or "Hard Days Night" albums as well....
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 05, 2012, 08:00:48 PM
For those who wish to 'read ahead':

Here are the links for my submission for the next list (which I nominated here: http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg740855#msg740855).

Roxy Music started out partly as a glam-rock band, but quickly changed to what I suppose might be called an 'art-rock' band.

Their music frequently broke new ground for what might be expected from a band.  Avalon was their final album.  It is easily their most exceptional one.  It has extreme musical and emotional depth and complexity, yet is still quite accessible.

The full album is only about 35 minutes, but with the depth of the compositions, it is easy enough to get 'lost' in it and have time expand.  The progression of the music makes it a unique listening experience, so it was difficult to pick just one tune as a sample... so the full album link is first.

full album - Avalon
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/ypDsyWI5Lzw

'The Main Thing' - Avalon
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/3aduXimrcGg
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 06, 2012, 07:14:55 AM
Are we full up in nominations yet?  If not, then I nominate Sloan - Twice Removed (though when Tripe suggested live albums, I thought of 4 Nights at the Palais Royale).
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 08, 2012, 08:39:05 PM
It seems possibly people are still voting for what they 'like' instead of what the point of the thread is.  Brand X, Unorthodox Behavior broke new ground for 'rock-accessible' fusion - when fusion was a new genre of music in its time - yet it has fewer votes than other albums which have no expressed reason for even being submitted.


Oh, and for the next poll, there are still albums whose names were submitted with no rationale for why they should be chosen.  If there is no 'reason' given, then all people will do is vote for what they like, defeating the purpose of the thread.  If someone wants a 'What Albums We Seem to Like Here, Musically' poll, then submit that as a List of Crap topic.

Just a couple thoughts since people continuing to ignore D.B.'s initial rules for the thread/poll (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg735077#msg735077) remains an issue:
     How about not accepting nominations unless at least some nominal explanation for why it should be included is present?  [And, yes, I realize this would have prevented my last at least two nominations from being accepted as they were submitted, because I couldn't function enough to write anything at those times.]
     And then, maybe including voting criteria in the blurb on top of the poll selections?  [i.e. "This is not about what you like: this is what albums are important to music history or the direction music took after these albums.  Do not select albums merely because you enjoy listening to them, and don't not vote for albums just because you don't enjoy the musical style."]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ig88ftw on August 08, 2012, 10:27:28 PM
If it's only supposed to be albums that revolutionized the way music is made, then it's going to be a pretty short list, and certainly nothing that's made the list thus far deserves to be there.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 08, 2012, 11:01:40 PM
If it's only supposed to be albums that revolutionized the way music is made, then it's going to be a pretty short list, and certainly nothing that's made the list thus far deserves to be there.

"revolutionized the way music is made" isn't what was said, either in my post, or the original post starting the thread (which was linked to in the post you are responding to).  It might help if you read more carefully what people say, and understood their point before posting a rebuttal.

But for "important to music history or the direction music took after these albums" (which is what I said), I think a good percent of those already 'winning' have done so (esp. Ziggy Stardust and Electric Ladyland).  Many which haven't been nominated yet have also (e.g. Sgt. Pepper's).  An album representing the pinnacle of a band who had a significant impact on music would also be considered 'important' (examples in this poll alone: Synchronicity, Pet Sounds, Joshua Tree, and presumably Elvis [I don't know his work well enough to be sure, but figure that someone who does submitted it, so it got a vote from me]).

Re-read the initial post for this thread. (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg735077#msg735077)<sentence is link>  Before posting in ANY thread, one should read the 'ground rules' stated in the first post of that thread, but for things like this it is especially necessary.  Otherwise, one's participation in that thread is not in accordance with the Site Rules (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=23746.0).<words are link>  [Not participating in line with the thread's topic would be a violation of rule 8.]

And D.B. - the person initiating and running this poll - 'liked' the following post from a few pages back (as did others).  That 'liking', and later discussions, demonstrated that he agreed with it.  (I don't claim any 'new ideas' in it: it basically just elaborated on the information found in his first post.)  In the part of his first post that I quote below, I have now drawn particular attention to the specifically relevant words with red and an underline.
Something that I occasionally have to remind myself of as I'm listening to some of these (especially needed for ones that don't fit my musical taste ;)) - which I thought some others might like a 'refresher' for - is the 'rules' for this list: "As with the movies poll, the goal of this thread is to generate a list of albums that should be experienced by everyone at least once in their life. The only qualification for nominating an album is that, for whatever reason, you feel it is important enough to deserve a place on a list of the top 100 must-listen-to albums of all time. (http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25448.msg735077#msg735077)"

It is NOT a 'favorites' list: that's left to the 'List of Crap's.

It is not really even about what we 'like', and definitely not what would be on our personal 'Top 100' list; it is about albums that are - for whatever reason - 'important' or 'relevant'.

That is why the description of why people think an album deserves to be on this list is so important: if there is no 'justification' for a nomination, people will simply vote for things they 'like' and certain albums will be left behind that maybe shouldn't be.

On the first two polls nearly 1/2 the votes I gave were given to albums I didn't like, or wouldn't ever listen to again... but which I felt better for having heard.  I know there will be at least two on this one that I will vote for that fit that criteria also.  And there will be some nominations I make during the course of this thread for albums that I won't listen to again.


"Apologies" for the 'space filling' for this post to those who have no trouble remembering these nomination/voting criteria.  "You're welcome" to those who do. ;)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 09, 2012, 08:34:52 AM
Oh man, I'm so confused. There was a bunch of back and forth about when people should post what, and nothing was really finalized.

For reference:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Anyway, I don't think everybody is going to follow some super-strict set of rules, and to be honest, I started this so we could have another fun forum activity, and hopefully get a little music appreciation group going. For me, it's not so much about what ends up on the list as it is a group of people listening to music they feel is important, and should be heard by others.

Quote
The only qualification for nominating an album is that, for whatever reason, you feel it is important enough to deserve a place on a list of the top 100 must-listen-to albums of all time.

I intended this to be broad and subjective. I was trying to say that there are a variety of valid reasons why a person would feel an album was worthy. Cultural significance, influence, and impact are obviously important, but there are other, more personal reasons that are also valid.

All that doesn't change the fact that people do need to talk about why they feel a particular album should be included. We just all have to agree on an acceptable process. It seems like it went from full justification posts to placeholders that would be followed by full justification posts, and then maybe back. I don't know, like I said, I'm confused trying to follow it.

The bottom line (at least the way I see it) is that not everybody is going to do it the exact same way, and as long as at some point there is a meaningful post explaining the "why" of a nomination, I think we'll be fine. If people fail to post their justification relatively soon after a poll begins, then we should quote their nomination and simply ask "why are you nominating this?" We've got the ground rules set for when to post nominations, so we're good there.

Hope that makes sense. As always, group feedback is welcome.  :)


Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 09, 2012, 09:22:25 AM
Thanks for clearing that up, I was starting to think of this list was going to be too much "work" to continue participating.   I've been thinking of the quality of the music first, then secondly if it influenced others after it, distant 3rd would be if it broke new ground.  My musical tastes are fairly broad, from classical to heavy metal.  About the only music I can't stand is 99% of rap, and certain singers make my skin crawl (the guy from Yes is one (Jon Anderson?).

Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 09, 2012, 11:51:16 AM
Because of the condition I'm in, I ended up writing far more than intended.  So I hacked out paragraphs that seemed less directly relevant, hoping more people would read what was left.  [But, of course, frying my brain further in the process: my choice, as I'd rather expend more effort and have people actually read it, than use less energy and have everyone skip it or barely skim it.]
I intended this to be broad and subjective. I was trying to say that there are a variety of valid reasons why a person would feel an album was worthy. Cultural significance, influence, and impact are obviously important, but there are other, more personal reasons that are also valid.

All that doesn't change the fact that people do need to talk about why they feel a particular album should be included. We just all have to agree on an acceptable process. It seems like it went from full justification posts to placeholders that would be followed by full justification posts, and then maybe back. I don't know, like I said, I'm confused trying to follow it.

The bottom line (at least the way I see it) is that not everybody is going to do it the exact same way, and as long as at some point there is a meaningful post explaining the "why" of a nomination, I think we'll be fine. If people fail to post their justification relatively soon after a poll begins, then we should quote their nomination and simply ask "why are you nominating this?" We've got the ground rules set for when to post nominations, so we're good there.

I suspect, given how far I've been past my limits I got too intense with my post just above yours.  But, yes, the core of what I was trying to say was what you have above (especially what I put in blue).  And that that justification could - in some cases probably should - trump one's disliking the music personally.

I also agree that the 'where' for the nomination got confusing - partly from my detailed description of ideas I had, and ideas by others responding to what I wrote.  You are right: the 'where' is far less relevant than that a justification exists at all.

But there is something important with the where.  Unfortunately, because I've been so far gone lately, I skipped the reason I agreed with TheUnabeefer's suggestion that basically the justification be present and easily accessible before it is possible to vote and then just linked to at that time.  [I didn't give my justification for it, one might say.]  The reason is something from having studied psychometrics: once people put a response for something, they are highly unlikely to go back and change it.  So if someone votes when the poll opens (I think about eight people did in the first 24 hours for the last one), they aren't likely to read justifications others give after that point, cancel their votes, and re-vote to include something new.  [There are a couple people here who have said they do that, but it is a minority that will do such a thing.]


I do still think it would be helpful to add something above the list of nominees in the voting area, that reminds voters that the poll is about albums that are important in some way, so they should not just vote for what they 'like'.  Maybe something pointing out that voters should read the justifications prior to voting, and that things that have been described well enough to understand that they are relevant or important should trump one's personal musical taste when voting.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on August 09, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
Well I nominated The Joshua Tree because it is an important album, it spawned at least three mega hits, it's influential and it's one of the best selling albums of all time.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 09, 2012, 01:26:54 PM
Well I nominated The Joshua Tree because it is an important album, it spawned at least three mega hits, it's influential and it's one of the best selling albums of all time.

You're too late with your reason!!! :P

Yeah, my choices tend to be things that, if I heard that someone had never heard that album, I'd respond with "Holy crap!! Have you been living under a rock?!? And you say you like music...." despite if I personally actually LIKE the band/album at all.  Sometimes (like in the case of Syd Barrett), I throw in an album that people mostly WOULDN'T be aware of, despite it actually having a huge influence on many of the artists they DO know of.

For instance, I'll probably nominate a specific Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds album at some point... or Bauhaus (the FIRST band to be called "gothic" despite their argument that the title didn't fit them) ... and most like Porcupine Tree simply because nearly every other band in existence are huge fans of them themselves, yet they are relatively unknown to non-musicians.

Just several examples of reasons to nominate an album.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: goflyblind on August 09, 2012, 01:30:04 PM
you people take this way too seriously. i think i'm gonna delete my account the whole of the internet because of this thread.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 09, 2012, 01:35:29 PM
Yes, I, a hooded cow, take things too seriously.  It's why they made me a global moderator, and now everyone will be banned.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 09, 2012, 01:40:11 PM
Because of the condition I'm in, I ended up writing far more than intended.  So I hacked out paragraphs that seemed less directly relevant, hoping more people would read what was left.  [But, of course, frying my brain further in the process: my choice, as I'd rather expend more effort and have people actually read it, than use less energy and have everyone skip it or barely skim it.]
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Some people are going to vote without reading the justifications anyway. I would also think that people who are interested enough to read the justifications are probably more likely to consider a vote change as well. Clearly, there are more people voting than taking the time to nominate and write about their nominations. And that's perfectly fine; some people just want to vote. It's nice that people are participating. Those of us interested in doing some listening and discussing can go ahead and do that. Like I said, I don't really care what ends up on the final list; I care about this being a fun and interesting activity.

I will definitely add the language regarding importance and "why" to the poll description.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 09, 2012, 01:52:03 PM
Well I nominated The Joshua Tree because it is an important album, it spawned at least three mega hits, it's influential and it's one of the best selling albums of all time.

I listened to The Joshua Tree last night, and I was reminded of the fact that I don't much care for it. Outside of their very early stuff, I don't care much the band. I find The Joshua Tree sort of boring and plodding.

I was also reminded that I don't much like Doolittle.

I couldn't deal with Reconstruction Site by The Weakerthans. I kinda liked the song Quirk posted, but after a while, I grew tired of the whole indie vibe. And I like some music classified as "indie," but mainly the stuff with some real power and energy.

I haven't heard Synchronicity in years. It was cool to listen to the whole thing all the way through again. I love that album.

I didn't vote for Pet Sounds because of reasons.

I voted for Synchronicity, Elvis, and Unorthodox Behavior.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 09, 2012, 02:00:45 PM
Unless anyone objects, I'm gonna post like sixty-five times in a row.  :D

Round four winners are as follows:

Elvis - Elvis Presley
Synchronicity - The Police
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Doolittle - Pixies


We need two more nominations for the next round.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: goflyblind on August 09, 2012, 02:02:21 PM
i nominate the clash - london calling. it is an album that everyone must listen to. i will post samples if requested.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 09, 2012, 02:25:48 PM
Before I go to sleep, I guess I'll nominate Weird Al Yankovic's Off The Deep End  I'll post stuff about it when I wake up and get rid of the dang migraine. :)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on August 09, 2012, 04:45:12 PM
For the upcoming round I nominate Michael Jackson's Thriller

My first ever album, and still one of my favorites
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 09, 2012, 06:34:52 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Some people are going to vote without reading the justifications anyway. I would also think that people who are interested enough to read the justifications are probably more likely to consider a vote change as well. Clearly, there are more people voting than taking the time to nominate and write about their nominations. And that's perfectly fine; some people just want to vote. It's nice that people are participating.

I will definitely add the language regarding importance and "why" to the poll description.

Just to be clear: I 'Liked' this post before reading the final sentence... I was basically agreeing with the "Those of us interested in doing some listening and discussing can go ahead and do that. Like I said, I don't really care what ends up on the final list; I care about this being a fun and interesting activity."  [Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that you'll add something to the poll instructions, but that wasn't what I was 'like'ing.]

Head injury slowness here... it took me this long to mentally compare this thread to the way some extensive therapy is considered.  In that, it is the journey of exploration of the psyche, rather than a 'result' that is of value.  [Possibly 'attending to the therapeutic process' was of minimal interest to me as a therapist because dealing mostly with trauma survivors the 'how' was so much less important than getting emotional/symptom relief for the people coming to my office.  Obviously there's no such pressure (or at least shouldn't be) with this list. :P]

I do actually think part of my frustration is that so few people are bothering to give any reason at all for what they nominate, it seemed those of us who care about learning about music that we may not have experienced before didn't have as many opportunities to do so.  But, again, you are right: those of us who are using the thread in the way it was conceived can share and learn between us, with those who don't discuss the music being basically irrelevant in that regard.  'Quality' vs. 'quantity'.  [And, with me using the energy I did writing all of what I did today about the 'rules', I've effectively lowered the 'quality' of what I could discuss about music itself.  >:(]

  [[That ties directly into something from this last week that I'd excised from the earlier post.  But since it isn't thread-relevant, I've moved that and additional comments to the RRRAAARRGGGHHH! thread.]]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 09, 2012, 09:43:55 PM
Okay, I have a simple reason for nominating Weird Al Yankovic's Off The Deep End album (over any of his others).... and while it may not have been the first comedy parody album, or even HIS first... or even his best.... it was still the first one that violently threw the comedic parody album into the light of the general public.

Up until that point, people generally knew who he was and what he did, but many people (ie the non-fans) still regarded his music and writing as "stupid" or just "Oh well anyone can just change the lyrics to a song", and the actual fan base was merely regarded as nerds and goof-offs.  It was a kitschy, very pigeon-holed fan base.

Then Off The Deep End came out, with the obvious single of "Smells Like Nirvana" and suddenly EVERYONE wanted to buy his albums.  Call me biased, but I did notice many more people admitting and realizing just how creative he was.... and that album is the turning point of where people who never would have ever bought a comedy music album suddenly started accepting this stuff as genius.

That, and it's just a great album!!!  I have everything he's ever recorded (and I do mean even the rare crap), and if I had to introduce someone new to him I'd pick that one album.  It has one of his best and most enjoyable polkas, the aforementioned Nirvana parody, a Beach Boys style parody, Milli Vanilli parody, MC Hammer parody... it even has a hidden track parodying Nirvana's hidden track.  And the cover of the album... I am sure that's the most well-known all around.

So yeah, Off The Deep End.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 09, 2012, 10:06:30 PM
I haven't heard Synchronicity in years. It was cool to listen to the whole thing all the way through again. I love that album.
WTG Barnes! :D *high five*
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 10, 2012, 12:13:13 PM
Before I go to sleep, I guess I'll nominate Weird Al Yankovic's Off The Deep End  I'll post stuff about it when I wake up and get rid of the dang migraine. :)

I would have gone with Even Worse, but that's a good one too.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 10, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
Before I go to sleep, I guess I'll nominate Weird Al Yankovic's Off The Deep End  I'll post stuff about it when I wake up and get rid of the dang migraine. :)

I would have gone with Even Worse, but that's a good one too.

I personally think Even Worse and Off The Deep End are about tied for being his most accessible and probably best albums... but Even Worse loses a point for me for not having a polka!! :D  And OTDE really was a turning point as far as general public acceptance and awareness goes.... and I might even go as far as to claim that's when being a "nerd" started becoming cool and desirable.

Oh, and Polka Party! is my personal favourite album of his.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on August 11, 2012, 05:56:57 PM
I always thought that You Don't Love Me Anymore was more than a simple comedy song.

My personal favorite Al-bum (get it?!) is Running With Scissors.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 12, 2012, 04:05:34 PM
Not that I mind if DB decides to take a break for this, but when can we expect the next vote to start?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 12, 2012, 04:17:15 PM
Oh crap. I guess I thought I already put up the new poll. Sorry about that. It's up now. Looks like I picked the wrong week to start sniffin' glue!

If you haven't posted your reasons for nominating, try and do it sooner rather than later.

Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 12, 2012, 05:42:11 PM
Looks like my nomination got overlooked.  Oh well.  Next time.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 12, 2012, 05:54:30 PM
Looks like my nomination got overlooked.  Oh well.  Next time.

 :-[

Aw jeez, sorry about that, Johnny. I just went back through and saw the Sloan - Twice Removed nomination. You even bolded it. My bad; it'll be in the next poll.

I'll make a habit of posting the nominations as soon as I receive ten of them, so people can correct me if I missed something and fix it before the new poll goes up.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on August 13, 2012, 01:04:55 PM
Michael Jackson's Thriller

Nomination didn't make this round, maybe next one?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Space version 2.0 on August 13, 2012, 03:31:36 PM
Woo! My nomination actually got second vote. I nominated Life'll Kill Ya mainly because I was hoping to see some Zevon on the list. Seems like he is really only known for one song. I was going to nominate the album that's from (Excitable Boy) so that maybe more people would give it a listen, but don't really feel like it's his best work. Basically I had it down to either this or My Ride's Here, but feel like this has a better mix of his humorous and serious side.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: anais.butterfly on August 13, 2012, 03:38:19 PM
Yeah, that's an automatic vote from me. I actually grew to prefer Vs, but there's no denying the importance and awesomeness of Ten.
It's too bad Anais.Jude isn't here anymore... she was a fan of Pearl Jam.

I have reason to suspect she's lurking around..... >.>  <.<

Yay, listened to the Nightmare 4 riff yesterday and was worrying about her :)

It was Nightmare 3 I guest riffed on. You were listening to Erica.

Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: anais.butterfly on August 13, 2012, 03:40:06 PM
Yay, listened to the Nightmare 4 riff yesterday and was worrying about her :)

She came over to watch our new QuipTrack for Abduction. It was nice to meet her. She was really nice (and laughed a lot :D).

And she's pretty
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 13, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
Michael Jackson's Thriller

Nomination didn't make this round, maybe next one?

Okay, believe it or not, this wasn't yet another screw up on my part. Your Thriller nomination came in after the final nomination for the current round. It's on my list and will definitely be in the next poll.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 13, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
Yay, listened to the Nightmare 4 riff yesterday and was worrying about her :)

She came over to watch our new QuipTrack for Abduction. It was nice to meet her. She was really nice (and laughed a lot :D).

And she's pretty

*Gasp* She Back!
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 13, 2012, 07:07:28 PM
Yay, listened to the Nightmare 4 riff yesterday and was worrying about her :)

She came over to watch our new QuipTrack for Abduction. It was nice to meet her. She was really nice (and laughed a lot :D).

And she's pretty

*Gasp* She Back!

And she's pretty
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 13, 2012, 07:15:02 PM
Yay, listened to the Nightmare 4 riff yesterday and was worrying about her :)
She came over to watch our new QuipTrack for Abduction. It was nice to meet her. She was really nice (and laughed a lot :D).
And she's pretty

*Gasp* She Back!

Returning like something emerging out of a cocoon...  wait, I can't think of the word...  it's on the tip of my tongue....  Can anaisbody help with that?

[Welcome back. :)]
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 13, 2012, 09:33:13 PM
Ænima – TOOL

I think TOOL is probably the best hard rock band to come around in the last twenty years. I've loved them ever since Undertow, and their albums have only gotten better, grander, and more amazing since then. This album is a great example of how innovative and unique they are as a band.

Ænima is the first of two TOOL albums I'll be nominating (unless somebody beats me to the second one.) I love everything about this album. It's heavy as fuck at times, and simply beautiful at other times. I think "dynamic" is a good term to describe this music. I'm a huge fan of powerful, melodic, well-executed music, and this has those qualities in spades. The album sort of takes you on a musical journey through a huge range of emotions, from rage to sadness to hope to despair. There's so much raw power and emotion here; listening to the album is a real visceral experience.

From a musicianship standpoint, it's phenomenal. Maynard James Keenan is an amazing vocalist, and drummer Danny Carey is a master technician, as well as just being a huge groove monster.

The album is so well put together, too. I love the way they use interlude tracks to connect the songs together. It really makes for a much more seamless and interesting listening experience. And there aren't any three-and-a-half minute made-for-radio songs here. These songs take all the time they need.

I'm guessing most of you have heard the album at least once, but this is always good for a listen. And if you've never heard it, then buckle up, because you're in for a quite a trip.

So, yeah, TOOL's Ænima. Good stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Lm38Ojh61lY?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ig88ftw on August 13, 2012, 10:23:02 PM
I'm assuming the next Tool album you'll nominate will be Lateralus? :)



Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 13, 2012, 10:58:30 PM
I'm assuming the next Tool album you'll nominate will be Lateralus? :)

 :-X
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 13, 2012, 11:12:38 PM
For the next round, I'll nominate:

Golden Palominos - Pure (http://www.allmusic.com/album/pure-mw0000258463)

[The bold title above is a link to Allmusic.com's take on the album.]

I'll try to write more before the next poll starts, but I've had to rewrite this twice already (not thinking clearly and cleared the message writing box, when it had already taken me three attempts to write a sentence or two as it was :( ).

For starters, Golden Palominos is a Bill Laswell (http://www.allmusic.com/artist/bill-laswell-mn0000075979) band.  [His name is a link to Allmusic.com's write-up on him, too.]

No-one has apparently uploaded the whole album (intact) to YouTube, so here is a 'starter cut' from it; the title cut.  The album cover has a boob on it, so the image in the YouTube sample is NSFW (hence the spoiler).
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 14, 2012, 10:39:54 AM
For the next round I'd like to nominate:
Brentalfloss - What if this CD had lyrics?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: anais.butterfly on August 14, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
I did a quick search for this album title and did not find it, so hopefully we be good:

I nominate A Rush of Blood to the Head by Coldplay

Look, just because liking Coldplay is proof that one is gay, and just because one has to be near death to like them doesn't detract from the fact that this really is a good album. Before Chris Martin married Gweneth and got all political and junk, the band produced a beautiful album that mixes poetic lyrics with positive and passionate guitar and piano melodies. This album is, to me, audible prozac. I cannot be sad when I listen to it.

Oh dear, I have forgotten how to embed....hmmm


http://www.youtube.com/v/d020hcWA_Wg?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


http://www.youtube.com/v/W7Lmi_uemSc?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 14, 2012, 02:50:36 PM
Look, just because liking Coldplay is proof that one is gay, and just because one has to be near death to like them doesn't detract from the fact that this really is a good album. Before Chris Martin married Gweneth and got all political and junk, the band produced a beautiful album that mixes poetic lyrics with positive and passionate guitar and piano melodies. This album is, to me, audible prozac. I cannot be sad when I listen to it.

Despite the fact that the board is often quite rude in attacking another person's likes or dislikes, there is no reason to 'pre-detract' from something you like.  :(

I honestly have never heard Coldplay, so am interested to have the opportunity to form my own opinion of them (since I wouldn't have gone out of my way to listen without someone pointing out an album of theirs that they liked).  So, thanks for the opportunity to finally hear a band that MK&B have ragged on for years [they've ragged on one of my favorite bands too, since the MST3K days, so I already know my musical taste doesn't mesh with theirs].
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 14, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
Look, just because liking Coldplay is proof that one is gay, and just because one has to be near death to like them doesn't detract from the fact that this really is a good album. Before Chris Martin married Gweneth and got all political and junk, the band produced a beautiful album that mixes poetic lyrics with positive and passionate guitar and piano melodies. This album is, to me, audible prozac. I cannot be sad when I listen to it.

Despite the fact that the board is often quite rude in attacking another person's likes or dislikes, there is no reason to 'pre-detract' from something you like.  :(

I honestly have never heard Coldplay, so am interested to have the opportunity to form my own opinion of them (since I wouldn't have gone out of my way to listen without someone pointing out an album of theirs that they liked).  So, thanks for the opportunity to finally hear a band that MK&B have ragged on for years [they've ragged on one of my favorite bands too, since the MST3K days, so I already know my musical taste doesn't mesh with theirs].

Personally, I like Coldplay... but I'm an Echo & The Bunnymen fan, and they're basically just E&tB re-hashed (they've openly admitted to it, as well as played as studio musicians on a few recent E&tB albums) so I can't complain much about them.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Zombie Monty on August 14, 2012, 03:53:34 PM
I was trying to think of something '80s to nominate for the next round.  Something with lots of synths and whatnot.  Dug through my LP's and found what may be a perfect example of '80s new wave music:

Berlin - Pleasure Victim

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41N55GZ46AL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/v/azr2ooLlfzQ?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


Just a fantastic album.  If all you know of Berlin is the Top Gun song, you need to check out this album.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Zombie Monty on August 14, 2012, 03:59:05 PM
just because liking Coldplay is proof that one is gay

A bit harsh, don't ya think?

Coldplay is hit or miss for me.  I really liked that song "Paradise" from their last album.  And the album you mentioned is really good.

Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on August 14, 2012, 04:12:51 PM
I love Coldplay, Chris Martin is one of those rare singers who sound the same live.  No autotune for this guy.

And their music is beautiful too
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 14, 2012, 05:54:05 PM
I'm very surprised A night at the opera isn't getting more votes... don't most people think that's Queen's best album?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 14, 2012, 05:59:35 PM
I'm very surprised A night at the opera isn't getting more votes... don't most people think that's Queen's best album?

Beats me. I'm not a Queen fan.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 14, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
I'm very surprised A night at the opera isn't getting more votes... don't most people think that's Queen's best album?

I'd say it's a toss up with News Of The World.  I will vote for it when I get around to it, need to listen to more of the stuff I haven't heard to see what they are like.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: anais.butterfly on August 14, 2012, 07:35:43 PM
Does no one remember the 40 yr old virgin? Both of my coldplay comments were from comedy and, therefore, jokes

So to recap: coldplay.is awesome and I was trying to be funny


Now the Samsung galaxy x2....that is some suck.right there...i say because i am using it to post and its hard to type grammatically
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Zombie Monty on August 14, 2012, 07:38:18 PM
Does no one remember the 40 yr old virgin? Both of my coldplay comments were from comedy and, therefore, jokes

So to recap: coldplay.is awesome and I was trying to be funny


Now the Samsung galaxy x2....that is some suck.right there...i say because i am using it to post and its hard to type grammatically

I'm glad you added that last part.  I was afraid you might have had a stroke.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 14, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
Before I space out and miss the nominating phase again...

Couldn't Stand the Weather - Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble

(http://i.imgur.com/VKI3B.jpg)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 14, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
Does no one remember the 40 yr old virgin? Both of my coldplay comments were from comedy and, therefore, jokes

So to recap: coldplay.is awesome and I was trying to be funny

Ah, OK.  I don't like Steve Carell's stuff since he left the Daily Show (wasn't particularly fond of it when he was on it), and there was nothing about the ads for 40-Year Old Virgin that looked remotely amusing to me, so I never saw it, so impossible to get the references.

[I think the smilies are available to help prevent this sort of misunderstanding.]
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Post by: Starman! on August 14, 2012, 09:19:31 PM
Coldplay is great. I do poke fun at them sometimes but they are a great band.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Tripe on August 15, 2012, 11:46:07 AM
And anyway, liking Coldplay doesn't make one gay; it simply makes one naff. :)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 15, 2012, 01:19:06 PM
Liking NICKELBACK, however....
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: gojikranz on August 15, 2012, 11:36:37 PM
ok ive been away for a bit can i nominate at the moment?  if so id like to nominate

Welcome to the pleasuredome - Frankie Goes To Hollywood

for huge mega hits like relax and two tribes to more progressive adventurous tracks like welcome to the pleasuredome (featuring steve howe) this album has it all and really kicked off the remix trend. 
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on August 16, 2012, 07:10:28 AM
Coldplay is great. I do poke fun at them sometimes but they are a great band.

You were actually the first name that popped into my head when I thought of people who would vote for Coldplay. 

I don't mind them but to me each album has three or four amazing songs surrounded by a bunch of nothing.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on August 16, 2012, 07:23:04 AM
My nomination.

(http://kellmill.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy-deluxe-kanye-west-28132129.jpg)
Kanye West - My Dark Twisted Fantasy

I understand this is probably doomed based on people's opinions of his personality, ego, etc but if you put that aside (which I assume will happen moreso with time) and listen to this as an album I don't think you can deny just how amazing it is.  I've heard it described as the 'Pet Sounds' of hiphop which I can see, as to me it takes the genre and pushes it in a way not seen since Nas' Illmatic.


Now I just need to figure out which Cure album to nominate for the next round.


btw, have 'Nevermind' or 'Nevermind the Bollocks' been nominated yet?
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on August 16, 2012, 07:30:40 AM
I agree, say what you will about Kanye's ridiculous public spectacles... but the man makes some great music.

As far as The Cure... I would think that Disintegration is their apex as far as a definitive album statement... but Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me has always been the album that I revisit the most.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on August 16, 2012, 07:37:35 AM
I agree, say what you will about Kanye's ridiculous public spectacles... but the man makes some great music.

As far as The Cure... I would think that Disintegration is their apex as far as a definitive album statement... but Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me has always been the album that I revisit the most.

Yeah, I loooooooooooooove Wish but I understand it's not considered one of their best (because there's STILL no re-release of it!!!) so I was thinking Disintegration or Pornography would probably get more votes.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on August 16, 2012, 07:56:52 AM
Wish had some great tracks on it... High is one of the highlights in the long list of fantastic dreamy Cure pop songs... and 'Open', 'Cut' and 'Edge of The Deep Green Sea' are great Cure rockers... even if Deep Green Sea didn't need to lumber along for eight minutes or whatever... That album will always have a special place for me, as I saw them in concert during that tour... at the Palace of Auburn Hills when they were recording what later became the 'Show' concert album/movie... I'm sure I take up a few pixels of screen space when they pan the crowd.

Pornography is another really solid album... but even back in the 80s when I was a depressed teenager... it was a challenge to get through the whole thing in one sitting... it really will take whatever mood you are in and kick the shit out of it.... heh. Disintegration has a few moments of respite with 'Pictures of You' and 'Lovesong' before it buries you with the epic 'Prayers for Rain'... and now I'm just in full Cure fanboy blubbering mode... jaming out to various songs on Youtube...
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: ScottotD on August 16, 2012, 08:11:15 AM
Hahaha, glad it's not just me.  The Trilogy DVD has somehow began playing since this conversation started :)


Doing the Unstuck is my favourite song of all time which is just one of my highlights of Wish for me
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2012, 10:33:41 AM
My nomination.
Kanye West - My Dark Twisted Fantasy
Speaking of, did we ever find out if Kayne likes Fishsticks?
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 16, 2012, 10:52:09 AM
My nomination.
Kanye West - My Dark Twisted Fantasy
Speaking of, did we ever find out if Kayne likes Fishsticks?

I don't get it.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 16, 2012, 11:33:09 AM
I agree, say what you will about Kanye's ridiculous public spectacles... but the man makes some great music.

As far as The Cure... I would think that Disintegration is their apex as far as a definitive album statement... but Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me has always been the album that I revisit the most.

I have been thinking the same thing since a few rounds back.  Disintegration would be the one I'd nominate simply because it is the most accessible.

Kiss Me... was my FIRST cd I ever owned, Wish was when I saw them on tour, and Bloodflowers is actually my favourite Cure album followed immediately by Pornography.  Actually, I think Kiss Me fits better into the "trilogy" than Disintegration, but I'm not Robert Smith so I just guess he knows what he's talking about.

Wish apparently is in the process of getting its deluxe edition, from what I read on a Cure news site a little while back.... bout friggin time.

But for nomination, I'd still pick Disintegration.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 17, 2012, 08:44:06 PM
This is my 2996th post. Soon I shall celebrate the transition to manhood.  Sorry for the spam in this (and every other) thread right about now.

2996.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: anais.butterfly on August 17, 2012, 09:19:53 PM
I liked Kanye's two earliest albums. I look forward to hearing My Dark Twisted Fantasy
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: LucasM on August 21, 2012, 07:55:30 PM
For the next poll, starting sometime soon:

Here, for your listening enjoyment, is the complete album 'Pure' by Golden Palominos [a Bill Laswell (http://www.allmusic.com/artist/bill-laswell-mn0000075979) bandTM ;)].

Since I'm not functional enough to write something for this album myself [brain too far gone to even write something brief explaining in the RRAARRGGHH! thread], I'll simply copy here the review from AllMusic.com.  I will merely second the "luxuriate in the dark and lovely atmospherics" comment from the review; a better combo of 'dark' and 'lovely' atmospherics I think would be very hard to find. :)  The album can also be enjoyed if one completely ignores the lyrics and thinks of Ms. Carson's voice as another instrument.

If you live in New York, then chances are good that either you or someone you know has once been the Golden Palominos' singer. With Pure it was Lori Carson's turn, and she was just what this occasionally brilliant but frequently unfocused band needed. This is probably the Palominos' first great album (unless you count the group's brilliantly abrasive debut). What's the difference this time? Easy: focus, cogency, and discipline. Also funky, up-to-the-minute beats percolating under Carson's diaphanous vocals and supporting her intelligent (if sometimes overly precious) lyrics. Notice how her unbelievably sexy whisper on "Heaven" rubs up against Bill Laswell's ironclad bass; try not to notice the lyrics on "No Skin" ("This dark and secret crime/Cruelty masked as something kind"), and instead luxuriate in the dark and lovely atmospherics. Very, very nice. That's Bootsy Collins playing rhythm guitar, by the way. (http://www.allmusic.com/album/pure-mw0000258463)

Again, since the album cover (hence the YouTube picture for each tune) is a boob, the entire collection of tunes is spoilered.  NSFW:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 22, 2012, 09:00:44 AM
I never got around to voting this time.  Too busy.  Sorry.  I'll try to get into the next one.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: anais.butterfly on August 29, 2012, 09:40:32 AM
so.........music. Yea
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: anais.butterfly on October 24, 2012, 02:51:36 PM
Ok, I message Barnes about me taking over this thread and he never responded. I miss him

Anyway, what do you guys think of re-starting this thread from the begining with me being in charge (because I have no history of abandoning the forum  ::) ). Anyway, if you guys are interested, I am all for it. If you guys think I should try to contact Barnes on Facebook to get his permission, I can do that too
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: TheUnabeefer on October 24, 2012, 04:27:32 PM
Ok, I message Barnes about me taking over this thread and he never responded. I miss him

Anyway, what do you guys think of re-starting this thread from the begining with me being in charge (because I have no history of abandoning the forum  ::) ). Anyway, if you guys are interested, I am all for it. If you guys think I should try to contact Barnes on Facebook to get his permission, I can do that too

TO HELL WITH BARNES AND HIS FACEBOOK!! :P

Oh, I mean, I'm up for the thread starting back up.....  You'll have to try to take over the poll portion of this thing, unless you plan on a new thread altogethers.

I nominate every album in my music collection.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Starman! on October 24, 2012, 05:31:56 PM
New thread!
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 24, 2012, 08:02:44 PM
Sure new thread.  Sounds good.  Do you know how to do all the addition and stuff.  Cause I don't.  I suck at math.

Anyway, that works for me.
Title: Re: 100 Albums to Which You Have to Listen, or All Y'all Need to Hear This!!!
Post by: anais.butterfly on October 29, 2012, 08:52:19 AM
Do you know how to do all the addition and stuff.  Cause I don't.  I suck at math.


Clearly, you have never seen one of my List o Crap hosted threads or else you would be well versed that I don't know math.

Ok, I will create a new thread. *Adds to "to-do" list


It should be up later today!