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Title: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on February 23, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
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"Suck it, Imrahil! Nyeah!!!!"

Like it or not, the next List of Crap is Top 50 Pokémon. And though it may be a list of catastrophically (http://forum2.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=23630.msg700393#msg700393) low participation, we will bravely face that possibility to celebrate our favorite cockfighting chibi animals. Whether you are a master of Effort Values and Natures or if you still use that first Metapod named "penis" you caught in Viridian Forest, ("'penis used Harden' Huh huh.") assemble your party of 25 Pokémon and put them in Box 1 of BILL'S PC.

Points will be awarded to entries based on the length of your list in the following fashion:

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var maxscore = list.length
for (entries in list) {
     list[entries].points = maxscore;
     maxscore--;
}

assuming of course that the list is ordered from your favorite pokémon in list[0] to your nth favorite in list[n-1]. Thus if you had a full 25 on your list, your number one would be worth 25 points and your number 25 would be worth 1 point.

Pokémon may be from any generation, from Blue to Black. There shouldn't be any gray areas to clarify at all, in fact. This should be the most cut and dry List of Crap in a long time. The only thing I can think of is that we are voting for Pokémon species so you can't vote for Ash's Pikachu specifically.

[Edit]: If it had a number, it's official. No glitches.

Bulbapedia has a great column, "On the Origin of Species (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Column:On_the_Origin_of_Species)," that looks at the bases for some pokémon, which are sometimes real animals/phenomena and sometimes Japanese folklore.

And here's the complete set, with names, so you can glance through and pick the ones that look cool to you: http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/national (http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/national)


Deadline: March 9, 2012 at midnight MST
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on February 24, 2012, 03:08:34 PM
A wild thread appeared!

Here's a banner I threw together.

(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o355/Invader_quirk/Pokemonlocbannercopy.jpg) (http://forum2.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=23654.0)
I don't know how to post this code as text you can copy and paste...

And thanks, Tripe, for the sticky.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on February 24, 2012, 07:05:57 PM
I can and will totally do this. But be warned! No critter on my list will be past the Silver/Gold era, what with about there being when I stopped getting the new ones (or rather, when I did get the new ones, they were the remakes of Red/Blue and Silver/Gold).
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on February 24, 2012, 07:51:04 PM
I'm familiar with the newer gens and my list will be the same way. Past Gold and Silver it becomes very hard to find decent Pokemon.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: gojikranz on February 24, 2012, 09:05:25 PM
glitch pokemon? 
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on February 24, 2012, 09:12:56 PM
You know there are actually people that think Missingno is overrated and prefer one called 'M' (or something similar)?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on February 24, 2012, 09:15:29 PM
I've seen that guy. Caught him, and ruined the game. Pro.

There are a few that are awesome enough to include in my list, but most will be from the original 150 or Gen III.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on February 24, 2012, 09:23:06 PM
glitch pokemon?  

To keep it simple, I'm gonna say if it has an official number, it's eligible. No ordering off-Pokédex.

[Edited to add]: And for the love of god, NO BIKING INDOORS
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Pak-Man on February 24, 2012, 10:18:44 PM
I'll have a few from every generation. After 5 generations with the first 150 Pokemon, they can start to feel a little stale. I actually think one of the best moves Black/White made was to keep all legacy pokemon until the endgame. I know Woobat was just a replacement for Zubat, but after running into Zubat in EVERY CAVE since Red and Blue, he just feels more like a chore than a Pokemon. Still, some Pokemon are forever. :^)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Dim of the Yard on February 24, 2012, 10:24:46 PM
Coragale, if you don't mind me asking, is that a Kadabra or an Alakazam in your icon? I can't make out spoons, so I'm not sure. (Guessing Kadabra.)

I might take part in this, but my "plight" is the same as Quirk's; I don't know many Pokemon beyond Gold/Silver. Still, that's, what, 250 Pokemon? That's still a good amount to base a list off of, right?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on February 24, 2012, 10:26:47 PM
Coragale, if you don't mind me asking, is that a Kadabra or an Alakazam in your icon? I can't make out spoons, so I'm not sure. (Guessing Kadabra.)

I might take part in this, but my "plight" is the same as Quirk's; I don't know many Pokemon beyond Gold/Silver. Still, that's, what, 250 Pokemon? That's still a good amount to base a list off of, right?

Oh, I know them all (I'm a little sketchy on Black and White because I haven't played them yet), I just think the majority of the best ones are in those first two generations. Maybe you meant to say "CJones", though?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on February 24, 2012, 10:34:01 PM
And the first list is in. I've made my preliminary list of 40. I'll narrow and sort tomorrow.

Dim, if you want, you can look at the image sheets I linked to in the first post and just, like, circle and number the ones you like. Or crop them out and send me a rebus list... Whatever you want to do. Because most people are going to vote based on sight, so you shouldn't really even need to know their names.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on February 24, 2012, 10:56:38 PM
I found a complete pokedex with names that's much more useful than what you posted. It's their sprites and not their official artwork, though.

http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/national (http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/national)

Also, my preliminary list is done... and it also has 40. 0.o
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on February 24, 2012, 11:02:11 PM
Dim, I was about to say "How many spoons does he have?" and then I realized you said you couldn't see. It's an Alakazam. There's no stache, but it's an Alakazam none-the-less.

Man, this makes me want to play these games again. BRB, 1-nighting Sapphire. I... I fell asleep...
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on February 24, 2012, 11:20:30 PM
I found a complete pokedex with names that's much more useful than what you posted. It's their sprites and not their official artwork, though.

http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/national (http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/national)


IDEAL!
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on February 25, 2012, 05:38:23 AM
I never really got into Pokemon(I was spending all my money on Doctor Who VHS tapes when Pokemon came out)so I sent in a list for my younger brother.  He can't wait to see if any of his make it.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on February 25, 2012, 08:44:16 AM
I never really got into Pokemon(I was spending all my money on Doctor Who VHS tapes when Pokemon came out)so I sent in a list for my younger brother.  He can't wait to see if any of his make it.

Good idea!
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on February 25, 2012, 09:29:30 AM
New banner.

(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o355/Invader_quirk/Pokemonlocbanner2copy.jpg) (http://forum2.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=23654.0)

If you quote my post, you can see the code and just copy it into your sig.

EDIT: More terrible puns!

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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on February 25, 2012, 10:41:37 PM
Because... because AGGRON ARRRRRRRRRUGH
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on February 27, 2012, 08:54:18 PM
Turns out today's the 16th anniversary of Pokemon! How 'bout that.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Pak-Man on February 27, 2012, 09:55:50 PM
What's the deadline for the list? I want to make sure I procrastinate enough. :^)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on February 27, 2012, 10:14:56 PM
I think it was a week from this Friday, but I wouldn't quote me on that.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on February 28, 2012, 07:44:31 AM
What's the deadline for the list? I want to make sure I procrastinate enough. :^)

March 9, midnight MST
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on February 28, 2012, 08:43:37 AM
What's the deadline for the list? I want to make sure I procrastinate enough. :^)

March 9, midnight MST

PAH! Mountain Time...
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on February 28, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
Yeah thos stuck up mountains think they are so great. Why isn't our time good enough for them?! :angry:
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on February 28, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
Yeah thos stuck up mountains think they are so great. Why isn't our time good enough for them?! :angry:

No, I'm in Mountain time. I just hate it. There's no good in MST. East coast is 3 hours early and West coast is an hour late! At least Central gets a courtesy time indicator.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on February 28, 2012, 11:47:09 AM
If I watched TV, it probably would be very annoying.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: CJones on February 28, 2012, 12:16:44 PM
Turns out today's the 16th anniversary of Pokemon! How 'bout that.

Good God, I'm old!

My cousin, who will start college this year and is currently exactly half my age, used to collect Pokemon trading cards when he was a kid. He gave me some as a gift once. I wish I could remember what I did with them, or what they were. I kept them for at least ten years, but I haven't seen them recently. He had a whole book full of them and used to like to quote stats and abilities, completely from memory.

Then again, I used to do the same thing with Magic: The Gathering. In fact, I still have all my cards, some of which are probably worth a fair amount of money by this point.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on February 28, 2012, 12:19:14 PM
Only four lists in, including my own. There are fourteen pokémon with multiple votes so far.

Then again, I used to do the same thing with Magic: The Gathering. In fact, I still have all my cards, some of which are probably worth a fair amount of money by this point.

You wouldn't have a Black Lotus, would you?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: CJones on February 28, 2012, 03:20:49 PM
Only four lists in, including my own. There are fourteen pokémon with multiple votes so far.

Then again, I used to do the same thing with Magic: The Gathering. In fact, I still have all my cards, some of which are probably worth a fair amount of money by this point.

You wouldn't have a Black Lotus, would you?

Unfortunately no. I didn't get into the game until Revised, and I've never had any of the "Power Nine." I do have a fair number of Antiquities and Legends cards, several False Orders and Twiddles from Unlimited, and an Alpha Orcish Oriflame (the one with the lower casting cost). I also used to have quite a few of the original (non-pain) style Multi-lands from Unlimited and Revised, which I foolishly traded away for Ice Age cards. D'oh! I don't know if those have ever been reissued, but I seriously doubt it.

I got out of the game soon after Ice Age, but I kept my cards, for nostalgia's sake. I'm astounded it's still going.

EDIT: I'll submit something, I promise. Just bear in mind I'm a huge procrastinator.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: BBQ Platypus on February 28, 2012, 03:22:24 PM
if you still use that first Metapod named "penis" you caught in Viridian Forest, ("'penis used Harden' Huh huh.")

*raises hand*
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on February 28, 2012, 04:22:35 PM
I got out of the game soon after Ice Age, but I kept my cards, for nostalgia's sake. I'm astounded it's still going.

They actually brought Ice Age back, too, for one set. I stopped buying a few sets ago, shortly after they introduced Mythic Rare cards (as if the rares weren't overpowered already). In fairness, it's been circling the drain then climbing back out since the beginning, getting worse and better at the same time. I've got two good decks, now, though, and I don't feel the need to keep buying cards.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on February 28, 2012, 05:00:00 PM
if you still use that first Metapod named "penis" you caught in Viridian Forest, ("'penis used Harden' Huh huh.")

*raises hand*

(http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/080428.gif)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on February 28, 2012, 05:30:43 PM
if you still use that first Metapod named "penis" you caught in Viridian Forest, ("'penis used Harden' Huh huh.")


(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Funny_680d97_2831023.png)

I'm just going to stop posting images.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Tripe on February 29, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
Look it's simple, save the image you want to share, then go here (http://photobucket.com/), upload it and copy the text it gives you after it's finished uploading. Use that in between the image tags and Bob will be your auntie's live in lover. :)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on February 29, 2012, 10:33:10 PM
Eh. I dislike the bucket.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Tripe on March 01, 2012, 04:31:32 AM
 Then use a different hosting site, the process is much the same. :)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: pegaso220379 on March 02, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on March 02, 2012, 11:44:36 AM
Hey, can we add that little dude from the show "Drawn Together" on our list?
 
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 02, 2012, 12:03:36 PM
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?

Send a PM to Pokemaniac Bill (click the little word balloon under his picture).
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on March 02, 2012, 12:16:32 PM
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
You send a PM with your top 25 choices to the user who started this thread.

Welcome to the boards.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 02, 2012, 01:16:45 PM
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
 
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
 
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
 
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
 
Hello, I'm new.  Where do you submit your list?
 

You send it via Personal Message to the person who is running the list, which in this case, would be Pokemaniac Bill.

Always great to see new folks around here, especially ones ready to jump right in with forum activities.  :)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on March 02, 2012, 01:43:07 PM

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Send a message to Pokemaniac Bill, the guy who started this thread. Simple enough. Just click the word balloon under his avatar.


Glad you decided to join us in this activity
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Pak-Man on March 02, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
Are we intending to quote that post 10 times, or is there something funky going on with the new forum?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on March 02, 2012, 02:15:55 PM

Are we intending to quote that post 10 times, or is there something funky going on with the new forum?

Are we intending to quote that post 10 times, or is there something funky going on with the new forum?

Are we intending to quote that post 10 times, or is there something funky going on with the new forum?

Are we intending to quote that post 10 times, or is there something funky going on with the new forum?


Seems like something funny's happening. I only did it once.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 02, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on March 02, 2012, 02:37:54 PM
Yeah i have no idea what happened there,I only quoted him once.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 02, 2012, 02:39:49 PM
I don't even remember posting in here.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on March 02, 2012, 02:40:39 PM
I don't remember where here is!
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Thrifty on March 02, 2012, 04:14:57 PM
Pokemon.  That takes me back.  I haven't really played much Pokemon in at least 5 years, and never really built a team since maybe 2003.  But I did have quite a few teams (http://mstabosz.com/teams.html) back in the day.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on March 04, 2012, 06:00:35 AM
Six days to go.  Get your votes in.  Don't make me have to start a random battle,vote.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Pak-Man on March 06, 2012, 11:26:06 AM
Got my list in.

Coincidentally, by the time this list starts I will (hopefully) have completed my Pokemon Black Pokedex. I now have intimate familiarity with 630 Pokemon. When my brother brings over his Pokemon (He's got all the legendaries) I'll have a complete dex of 646 Pokemon. Then I can begin the process of reclaiming my life. :^)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on March 06, 2012, 11:35:35 AM
Got my list in.

Coincidentally, by the time this list starts I will (hopefully) have completed my Pokemon Black Pokedex. I now have intimate familiarity with 630 Pokemon. When my brother brings over his Pokemon (He's got all the legendaries) I'll have a complete dex of 646 Pokemon. Then I can begin the process of reclaiming my life. :^)

I've never actually completed a Pokedex before. I'm impressed.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 06, 2012, 12:39:46 PM
Back in the old Red/Blue days I actually managed to get a link cable so I could trade with my brother and get a complete Pokedex. Although I also think I needed to Missingno a few (probably Tauros... damn Safari Zone. It was such a nightmare).
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on March 06, 2012, 01:21:42 PM
Back in the old Red/Blue days I actually managed to get a link cable so I could trade with my brother and get a complete Pokedex. Although I also think I needed to Missingno a few (probably Tauros... damn Safari Zone. It was such a nightmare).

Tauros is a boss. Surfing across the ocean on the back of a bull is a great feel, bro.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Pak-Man on March 06, 2012, 04:38:09 PM
I always preferred Kangaskhan for my unexpected surf Pokemon.

I just looked it up and found out Lickitung can surf too. I envision him standing on his own Tongue, waves carrying him though the ocean.. :^)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on March 06, 2012, 07:09:18 PM
I personally taught it to my Aggron in Sapphire. Is there anything that guy CAN'T do? He can learn counters to every one of his weaknesses, and is well defended against almost everything. Rock/Steel ftw.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 06, 2012, 08:02:08 PM
I always preferred Kangaskhan for my unexpected surf Pokemon.

I just looked it up and found out Lickitung can surf too. I envision him standing on his own Tongue, waves carrying him though the ocean.. :^)

The ones that look really weird with HMs are the best.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic188.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 08, 2012, 08:48:19 AM
Only 7 lists in so far. Based on the number of people who voted for this, and the people who didn't but submitted lists anyway, I was expecting about 13.

There's only 38 hours left!
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 08, 2012, 09:41:41 AM
Only 7 lists in so far. Based on the number of people who voted for this, and the people who didn't but submitted lists anyway, I was expecting about 13.

There's only 38 hours left!

If I don't submit a list in the final few minutes then I'm doing something wrong.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on March 09, 2012, 08:28:25 AM
Last day,get those lists in.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Pak-Man on March 09, 2012, 08:30:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/IJPhCBH27E0?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Coragale on March 09, 2012, 05:35:13 PM
GIT YA LISTS IN YA BASTIDS
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on March 10, 2012, 07:11:39 AM
So how many lists did we get in?  Do we know when the countdown will start.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: CJones on March 10, 2012, 09:08:17 AM
Crap, I was so caught up in the iRiffs LoC that I forgot all about this one.

Oh well, I don't play Pokemon, so my list wouldn't have been very interesting. I am interested in seeing the results though.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 10, 2012, 09:29:29 AM
So how many lists did we get in?  Do we know when the countdown will start.

9.08
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 10, 2012, 09:50:06 AM
Crap, I was so caught up in the iRiffs LoC that I forgot all about this one.

Oh well, I don't play Pokemon, so my list wouldn't have been very interesting. I am interested in seeing the results though.

Because I only got 9.08 lists, I'll accept late entries until Sunday night. I was going to start on Monday anyway.

{edit} Updated stats:

Point threshold: 22
Number of tied entries: 17*
Consensus record: 5 lists


* Using # of lists, then highest ranking to break ties if possible. The ties are mostly at the bottom, though, among the single vote entries. Which is why we need more lists!  :angry:  And the top spots are so close together that just one more list could easily change them, even with its lower votes.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 10, 2012, 12:18:22 PM
After researching some of these for my write-ups, I'm tempted to move them up my list... Not going to, though. That wouldn't be fair...
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: CJones on March 11, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
After researching some of these for my write-ups, I'm tempted to move them up my list... Not going to, though. That wouldn't be fair...

I say do it. It'll make the list more interesting.

Anyway, I just sent... something in. I don't know if it's worth anything, but it's the best I could do for a game I know nearly zero about.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 11, 2012, 05:15:06 PM
After researching some of these for my write-ups, I'm tempted to move them up my list... Not going to, though. That wouldn't be fair...

I say do it. It'll make the list more interesting.

Anyway, I just sent... something in. I don't know if it's worth anything, but it's the best I could do for a game I know nearly zero about.

Awesome. You did, in fact, make a difference, and very high up the list.


I will start posting the results in this thread tomorrow, but the number of posts is going to be irregular for a while because of all the ties at the bottom. Everybody's top four picks made it (if you sent in a full list).
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 11, 2012, 09:20:35 PM
Since a last second list bumped him off the official 50 after I had written his post, here's a bonus entry...

#54: Squirtle
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/007.gif)            (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/007.gif)
WATER
Points: 22; Lists: 2; Highest: Relaxing Dragon (#7)

                                                                                                                                                                            Squirtle is a water turtle, though unlike real water turtles, it has feet instead of fins. This would in fact make it a water tortoise, but "Suirtoise" sounds stupid, so there you go. Squirtle is known for spewing water at things (or just bubbles, at early levels) and for being in a gang in the show.

(http://sharetv.org/images/guide/326373.jpg)

Squirtle is one of the original three starter pokemon in Gen 1. Starting with squirtle made it easy to beat the first gym (Brock), but didn't help any in the second (Misty), and was not useful at all in conquering the third (Surge). It also has the fewest weaknesses of the starters—just grass and electric. Naturally, Squirtle excells in defence and special defence.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant or Careful for Little Cup; Bold or Modest otherwise

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/squirtle) (again, for Little Cup):
Fake Out
Aqua Jet
Waterfall
Return
Zen Headbutt
Ice Punch
Rapid Spin
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/3/39/007Squirtle.png/165px-007Squirtle.png)





We'll start tomorrow with a 5 pokémon pileup at rank #49...
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 11, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/iaN1mGJXpnM?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 11, 2012, 10:56:06 PM
Personally, I'm looking forward to finding out Jim Dalen's favorite Pokemon characters. He's such a mystery! I can only hope we can learn more about him by learning more about his preferences regarding these delightful little...what are these things again?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: CJones on March 12, 2012, 12:29:49 AM
Quote
Squirtle is a water turtle, though unlike real water turtles, it has feet instead of fins. This would in fact make it a water tortoise, but "Suirtoise" sounds stupid, so there you go. Squirtle is known for spewing water at things.

My sister, who's now a doctor at the Mayo Clinic, once asked me about five years ago: "What's the difference between Turtles and Tortoises?". I told her, Turtles have flippers, Tortoises have feet. I didn't realize this wasn't common knowledge.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 12, 2012, 12:43:05 AM
I blame the confusion on the flipperless Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. :^)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 09:14:55 AM
Quote
Squirtle is a water turtle, though unlike real water turtles, it has feet instead of fins. This would in fact make it a water tortoise, but "Suirtoise" sounds stupid, so there you go. Squirtle is known for spewing water at things.

My sister, who's now a doctor at the Mayo Clinic, once asked me about five years ago: "What's the difference between Turtles and Tortoises?". I told her, Turtles have flippers, Tortoises have feet. I didn't realize this wasn't common knowledge.

I think most people think the terms are interchangeable—like "tortoise" is an older, more official term for the same thing.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 12, 2012, 10:56:29 AM
It's a difference that matters to some and not to others:

http://www.youtube.com/v/SWMcRVZIVwk?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Thrifty on March 12, 2012, 11:26:32 AM
Bulbasaur was a great starter.  Vine Whip crushed Brock and Misty.  I think.  It's been a while.  Did Misty's Starmie have Psychic?

Charmander would put you at a disadvantage for both Brock and Misty.

Though I guess you could catch other wilds for Misty, I seem to recall that Bulbasaur was really the only thing that could really do heavy damage to Brock's Pokemon at that stage.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 12, 2012, 11:31:03 AM
Bulbasaur was a great starter.  Vine Whip crushed Brock and Misty.  I think.  It's been a while.  Did Misty's Starmie have Psychic?

Charmander would put you at a disadvantage for both Brock and Misty.

Though I guess you could catch other wilds for Misty, I seem to recall that Bulbasaur was really the only thing that could really do heavy damage to Brock's Pokemon at that stage.

Yeah Bulbasaur made the early gyms a cakewalk. If you picked Charmander you'd pretty much have to pound your way through the battle, and also have caught at least two others (I think Pidgey and Ratatta were your only options at this point) to whittle them down as well. Was basically a battle of attrition. By the time you got to Misty you hopefully had caught some bugs and evolved them appropriately to get some grass attacks.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
#49a: Kyurem
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/646.gif)        (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/646.gif)
DRAGON / ICE
Points: 23; Lists: 1; Highest: Smith Dr John Smith's brother (#3)

                                                                                                                                                                            Kyurem is one of the legendary pokémon introduced in Black and White. It is part of the Tao Trio along with Black and White's avatar pokémon, Reshiram and Zekrom. Though it does not evolve, it does have a black and a white form—something that will be explored in depth in Pokémon Black and White 2.


Quote
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f2/Tao_trio_anime.png)
Kyurem, in the center, as part of the Tao Trio

As the only Dragon / Ice pokémon, it loses the usual Ice weakness of Dragon types, but gains weakness to Fighting, Steel, and Rock, and of course retains its Dragon weakness. It also loses its resistance to fire, leaving it with more weaknesses than resistances, but its legendary—it can deal with it. The type pairing is good for giving STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus) to Ice Beam, however, which is a great backup for Draco Meteor. Its speed base stat is only 95 (out of 255), which is probably its main weakness.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/kyurem):
Draco Meteor
Ice Beam
Focus Blast
Dragon Pulse
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/c3/646Kyurem.png/250px-646Kyurem.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 12, 2012, 11:50:07 AM
Bulbasaur was a great starter.  Vine Whip crushed Brock and Misty.  I think.  It's been a while.  Did Misty's Starmie have Psychic?

Charmander would put you at a disadvantage for both Brock and Misty.

Though I guess you could catch other wilds for Misty, I seem to recall that Bulbasaur was really the only thing that could really do heavy damage to Brock's Pokemon at that stage.

Yeah Bulbasaur made the early gyms a cakewalk. If you picked Charmander you'd pretty much have to pound your way through the battle, and also have caught at least two others (I think Pidgey and Ratatta were your only options at this point) to whittle them down as well. Was basically a battle of attrition. By the time you got to Misty you hopefully had caught some bugs and evolved them appropriately to get some grass attacks.

Butterfree got me through those gyms. Then I boxed it.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 12:06:07 PM
#49b: Mareep
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/179.gif)          (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/179.gif)
ELECTRIC
Points: 23; Lists: 1; Highest: pegaso220381 (#3)

                                                                                                                                                                            Mareep, Mareep, the electric sheep. As it evolvs, Mareep becomes much less sheep-like. It begins walking upright and loses all its wool. As a Mareep, though, it uses its wool to generate and store static electricity and to provide it with insulation. In nature, it has a docile disposition and tends to avoid combat. It is known for making Philip K. Dick wonder weather androids dream about them.

Mareep was introduced in Gen 2 (Gold and Silver), in which it learned only five moves by leveling up (plus two starting moves). It also had a very short list of learnable TMs, including only one damaging attack that was a type other than Normal or Electric: Iron Tail.

By Gen 5 (Black and White), however, Mareep had picked up several more moves, including a Bug and a Rock attack both learned by levelling up. These widened its type matchup possibilities significantly, though sadly still not offering any super effective counter to Ground types. Also added in Gen 5 was Cotton Guard, a move that 'drastically' raises defence—giving it a boost of three stages compared to the two gained by moves that 'sharply' raise stats.

Mareep's highest stat is its Special Attack, though, as a first stage of three, its base stats are fairly low overall.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Bold or Modest

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/mareep):
Discharge
Hidden Power (Grass or Ice)
Thunder Wave
Reflect
Light Screen
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/6/6b/179Mareep.png/140px-179Mareep.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 12:09:30 PM
Bulbasaur was a great starter.  Vine Whip crushed Brock and Misty.  I think.  It's been a while.  Did Misty's Starmie have Psychic?

Charmander would put you at a disadvantage for both Brock and Misty.

Though I guess you could catch other wilds for Misty, I seem to recall that Bulbasaur was really the only thing that could really do heavy damage to Brock's Pokemon at that stage.

Yeah Bulbasaur made the early gyms a cakewalk. If you picked Charmander you'd pretty much have to pound your way through the battle, and also have caught at least two others (I think Pidgey and Ratatta were your only options at this point) to whittle them down as well. Was basically a battle of attrition. By the time you got to Misty you hopefully had caught some bugs and evolved them appropriately to get some grass attacks.

Unless you wanted to spend hours trying to catch a Pikachu in Viridian Forrest. That only helps v. Misty, though.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
#49c: Zangoose
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/335.gif)          (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/335.gif)
NORMAL
Points: 23; Lists: 1; Highest: Thrifty (#3)

                                                                                                                                                                            Zangoose is a single evolution pokémon. Being in some capacity mongoose-based, it has a bitter rivalry with Seviper. Dispite this, the two can mate. Due to its ability, it is either immune to poisoning or has increased attack power when poisoned. It is known for almost being a David Bowe reference.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Zangoose was introduced in Gen 3 as a Ruby exclusive, found on Route 114. It doesn't have the highest stats, but as said in its analysis at Smogon University (http://www.smogon.com/about), "they are distributed excellently" for dealing massive damage.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly or Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/zangoose):
Swords Dance
Return
Close Combat / Brick Break
Quick Attack
Shadow Claw / Shadow Ball / Night Slash
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/d/d3/335Zangoose.png/180px-335Zangoose.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 12, 2012, 12:37:29 PM
Bill was supposed to post this at the beginning of the list. It's like he didn't want people to see it for some reason...

http://www.youtube.com/v/phQaxixsNNM?version=3&hl=en_US

Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 12:56:45 PM
#49d: Dugtrio
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/051.gif)          (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/051.gif)
GROUND
Points: 23; Lists: 1; Highest: gojikranz (#3)

                                                                                                                                                                            Dugtrio, like Magneton, appears to be merely a grouping of three of its earlier evolution, although it is impossible to say what they look like under the surface. Because in all the years of their existence, through coutless battles, none of them have once been plucked out of the soil—not even when a pokémon uses Seismic Toss on them. Apparently Pokémon Mystery Dungeon revealed that they do have feet, though. That's what it says on Bulbapedia.

Here's on theory:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And here's another:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Dubtrio is known to be able to burrow 60mi underground, which would put it in the mantle of the earth. Doing this creates earthquakes. It is also said that it can burrow at 60MPH, so next time you use Earthquake, wait one hour before performing it, then one hour for Dugtrio to return to the surface for a more realistic play experience.

Dugtrio's main asset is its high speed. This, combined with its passable Attack and Arena Trap ability make it a good revenge killer.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/dugtrio):
Earthquacke
Stone Edge
Sucker Punch
Shadow Claw
Substitute
Reversal
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/e/e5/051Dugtrio.png/170px-051Dugtrio.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 12:57:30 PM
Oh yeah. I completely forgot the video...
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 01:00:35 PM
#49e: Aggron
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/306.gif)          (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/306.gif)
STEEL / ROCK
Points: 23; Lists: 1; Highest: Coragale (#3)

                                                                                                                                                                            Aggron is a gigantic, metal plated tank of a pokemon. It uses its horns to bore tunnels through bedrock. They are aggressive and territorial, patrolling entire mountains that they claim as their own. The eat iron.

Aggron was introduced in Gen 3, and if it has the Heavy Metal ability (Gen 5 only), it is the heaviest non-legendary pokémon. This makes learnig Heavy Slam very effective. It's typing gives it a ridiculous number of resistances and only 3 weaknesses (though two of these are x4 weaknesses). This, combined with its high Attack and very high defence make it quite formidible. With the addition of Head Smash in Gen 4 (which can only be given to Aggron through breeding), Aggron became even more powerful. An Aggron with the Rock Head ability can smash its head against things for massive damage all day and never take recoil damage.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant or Careful

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/aggron):
Head Smash
Ice Punch
Heavy Slam
Iron Head
Earthquake
Magnet Rise
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/6/6d/306Aggron.png/180px-306Aggron.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 12, 2012, 01:58:19 PM
Missed the best one:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, outraged that Aggron is so low. Ultimate badass.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 12, 2012, 02:11:50 PM
Missed the best one:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, outraged that Aggron is so low. Ultimate badass.

Sorry. I thought I had him on my list.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 12, 2012, 02:12:39 PM
Dugtrio was the bomb in blue for me.  just pop of a dig at the start and watch your foe die (unless they flew...)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 12, 2012, 03:08:13 PM
Also, outraged that Aggron is so low. Ultimate badass.

Yeah. I was kind of disappointed too, even though I bumped him from my list.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Darth Geek on March 12, 2012, 07:30:08 PM
Bill was supposed to post this at the beginning of the list. It's like he didn't want people to see it for some reason...

http://www.youtube.com/v/phQaxixsNNM?version=3&hl=en_US


:clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 12, 2012, 10:19:44 PM
Bill was supposed to post this at the beginning of the list. It's like he didn't want people to see it for some reason...

http://www.youtube.com/v/phQaxixsNNM?version=3&hl=en_US



(http://i.imgur.com/SgfCF.gif)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 09:00:30 AM
#46a: Girafarig
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/203.gif)(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/203.gif)
NORMAL / PSYCHIC
Points: 23; Lists: 2; Highest: pegaso220398 (#6)

                                                                                                                                                                            Girafarig, as pegaso said in his list, is like a pushmi-pullyu crossed with a chain chomp. The rear head isn't capable of thought, but it remains alert while the main head sleeps. The rear head responds to stimuli instinctively and is affected subconsciously by the actions of the main head. For instance, when the main head is eating, the secondary one will go through the motions of chewing absentmindedly.


Girafarig is a Gen 2 pokémon, found in route 43 of Gold and Silver. It has a huge moveset pool and overall average stats, with Special Attack and speed in the lead, though still only moderate. Until Gen 5, Girafarig was the only Psychic / Normal pokémon, and thus the only Psychic pokémon to be immune to Ghost, which could be useful. Even now, it is one of only two.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/girafarig):
Calm Mind
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Baton Pass
Grass Knot
Shadow Ball
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/1/11/203Girafarig.png/105px-203Girafarig.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 13, 2012, 09:09:58 AM
I love Girafarig's design but I have a hard time getting attached to a Pokemon that doesn't evolve, for some reason. I only have one non-evolver on my list, and only 7 others that don't have at least 3 evelutionary steps.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
#46b: Quagsire
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/eb/Spr_2c_195.gif)(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/195.gif)
WATER / GROUND
Points: 23; Lists: 2; Highest: gojikranz (#6)

                                                                                                                                                                            Quagsire is the evolved form of Wooper, and is an upright standing amphibian with an adorably derpy face. Sort of like Wobbuffet, Quagsire has an oblivious personality and is known for hitting its head on things. They participate in a ritualistic yearly sporting event, launching things toward the full moon:

Quote from: Bulbapedia
Once a year, when the moon is full, wild Quagsire collect round objects like balls and swim to Blue Moon Falls, where they attempt to shoot the balls to the top of a waterfall with their Water Gun attacks to see who can launch their objects the highest, with the apparent target being the moon. The day after, the objects float downstream and are considered to be blessed with luck from the Quagsire.

Quagsire can be found all over the place in Gold and Silver. Despite seeming like a token cute pokémon, Quagsire is quite adept at defense, with four resistances and an immunity to Electric. Unfortunately, he has a 4x weakness to Grass, but that's still his only weakness. He is best used as a wall or support, even moreso in Black and White, where he can acquire the hidden ability Unaware in the spirit world, letting him ignore the stat boosts of other pokémon.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Relaxed or Careful

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/girafarig):
Recover
Scald
Toxic
Earthquake
Curse
Waterfall
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/a/a4/195Quagsire.png/145px-195Quagsire.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Thrifty on March 13, 2012, 09:33:49 AM
That Ground subtype was incredible.  Most folks have a thunder type to take care of water types, but if you're packing a Quagsire, the other guy's thunder type is in trouble.  Ground type leaves you immune, and Earthquake lets you make short work of the thunder type.  I seem to recall that I would usually have a grass type move on one of my Pokemon, or if I didn't just not worry about type effectiveness and bring out something that could deal heavy neutral damage and absorb Quagsire's attacks.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 13, 2012, 09:52:27 AM
That Ground subtype was incredible.  Most folks have a thunder type to take care of water types, but if you're packing a Quagsire, the other guy's thunder type is in trouble.  Ground type leaves you immune, and Earthquake lets you make short work of the thunder type.  I seem to recall that I would usually have a grass type move on one of my Pokemon, or if I didn't just not worry about type effectiveness and bring out something that could deal heavy neutral damage and absorb Quagsire's attacks.

I was always the sort who had a lot of grass types, so this guy was never a problem. I think I only fell back to stuff like Thunder when facing guaranteed fish, such as Gyarados (that Elite 4 one isn't so tough when you're dealing x4 damage to it).
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 10:03:39 AM
Bonus: Wooper
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4d/Spr_4d_194_m.png)
WATER / GROUND
Points: 9; Lists: 1; Highest: CJones (#5)

                                                                                                                                                                            Since Quagsire made the list while Wooper didn't, and since it's based on an interesting natural phenomenon, lets take a detour to look at the fascinating history of Wooper and the ambystoma mexicanum, or axolotl. The axolotl is a small amphibian native to Mexico that appears to be a normal salamander, except that it lives its entire life in the water. However, in 1863, a package of axolotls was sent to a French zoologist. Upon arrival, it was discovered that the axolotls had metamorphosed into their true adult form. The axolotl was able to live into old age without growing up because it has one feature that sets it apart from other amphibians: It can mate in its adolescent stage.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/df/Axolotl.jpg)(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/78/194Wooper.png/195px-194Wooper.png)

Despite being based on a creature that "evolves" in a unique way, Wooper evolves starting at level 20. It's a shame; they didn't need to have a complicated process to evolve it like Chansey or Sneazel. If they had just made it evolve after trading it would have been a clever reference to the sent package in 1863.

Here is the full article on Wooper's origins (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Wooper)

and here is a Dresden Codak page (http://dresdencodak.com/2007/05/06/after-many-a-summer-dies-the-swan/) that happens to go into the story of the axolotl.
                                                                                                                                                                           
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 10:42:23 AM
#46c: Articuno
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c5/Spr_3e_144.gif)
FLYING / ICE
Points: 23; Lists: 2; Highest: gojikranz (#11)

                                                                                                                                                                            The legendary bird of ice, Articuno is a magestic creature, and counterpart to Zapdos and Moltres. Together, the three were known as the Winged Mirages, and were subservient to Lugia. It has no gender and can not be bred.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/20/Legendary_birds.png)
The three legendary birds of Kanto

Articuno was found at the end of the cave on Seafoam Island in the sea on the South edge of the map. Training it made it much easier to beat the Elite Four, especially Lance, the Dragon trainer. However, its Flying/Ice typing gives it a 4x weakness to Rock (the same as Moltres), plus three other weaknesses (starting in Gen 2, with the introduction of Steel). To counterbalance this, it has only one immunity and two resistances—Ground, Grass, and the rarely used Bug. In competetive play, its severe rock weakness and the widespread use of Stealth Rock means it is suceptible to losing half its health when it switches in.

Articuno isn't a lost cause, though. It still has very high Special Defense along with good Defense, good HP, and a wide defensive movepool. This makes it a good Special wall or stall/support, using Toxic, Substitute, and Roost to outlast opponents.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Calm or Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/articuno):
Ice Beam
Roost
Toxic
Substitute
Roar
Heal Bell
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/4/4e/144Articuno.png/210px-144Articuno.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 13, 2012, 10:44:51 AM
This was probably always incredibly obvious to everybody else, but I recently noticed that the legendary birds are numbered. Artic-uno, Zap-dos, Mol-tres.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 10:45:46 AM
This was probably always incredibly obvious to everybody else, but I recently noticed that the legendary birds are numbered. Artic-uno, Zap-dos, Mol-tres.

So it's "mole tray"?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 13, 2012, 10:47:11 AM
This was probably always incredibly obvious to everybody else, but I recently noticed that the legendary birds are numbered. Artic-uno, Zap-dos, Mol-tres.

So it's "mole tray"?

No... mole trace
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 10:48:29 AM
This was probably always incredibly obvious to everybody else, but I recently noticed that the legendary birds are numbered. Artic-uno, Zap-dos, Mol-tres.

So it's "mole tray"?

No... mole trace

Oh right. I was thinking of French.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 13, 2012, 10:53:51 AM
FOOL!

Also, I certainly enjoyed the CAVEON on Seafoam Island. Definitely one of my favorite CAVEONS of all time.

CAVEONCAVEONCAVEONCAVEONCAVEONCAVEON

BTW, Quirk, they continued that with the legendary woofers. Raikou has 4 points on his face, Entei has 5, and Suicune has 6.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 11:10:57 AM
#43a: Zapdos
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/145.gif)(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/145.gif)
FLYING / ELECTRIC
Points: 24; Lists: 1; Highest: gojikranz (#2)

                                                                                                                                                                            Zapdos is the second of Kyoto's legendary birds (though you can get either it or Articuno first). Its wings are very stylized, making Zapdos the bird equivalent of Yu-Gi-Oh's hair. Some say it gathers electricity from the atmosphere and discharges it when it flaps its wings.


(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/15/Zapdos_Thunderbolt.png)

Zapdos is found in the Power Plant in Red, Blue, and Yellow; and on Route 10 after earning 16 badges in Heart Gold and Soul Silver.

Zapdos has, by far, the best type pairing of the legendary birds. Unlike Articuno and Moltres, Zapdos is only 2x weak to Rock, and his Flying-type suceptibility to Electricity is cancelled out, leaving only Ice. Furthermore, the main deterent of Electric types, Ground, is completely negated by Zapdos' Flying type. In Black and White, Zapdos can acquire the hidden ability Lightning Rod, which would also make it immune to Electric attacks.

Now, as far as attacks are concerned, Electric and Flying provide only a modest spread of super effective matchups, but in Gen 4, Zapdos can learn Heat Wave (through a Move Tutor in Platnum, Heart Gold, or Soul Silver).

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid, Bold, or Calm

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/zapdos):
Thunderbolt
Heat Wave
Hidden Power (Grass, Ice, Flying)
Roost
Toxic
Substitute
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/e/e3/145Zapdos.png/210px-145Zapdos.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Thrifty on March 13, 2012, 11:22:47 AM
Did anyone post this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/v/nZCZ7M_lifM?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 13, 2012, 11:25:31 AM
Zapdos ranked over Articuno?

Wimps.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 11:33:51 AM
#43b: Loudred
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/294.gif)(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/294.gif)
NORMAL
Points: 24; Lists: 1; Highest: Pak-Man (#2)

                                                                                                                                                                            Loudred is classified as a "Big Voice Pokémon" and its signature attacks involve making a lot of noise. It accomplishes this with a cavernous, amphitheater-like mouth and ears that also function as ultrasonic loudspeakers. It's yells can allegedly blow apart houses.

Even after Loudred evolves into Exploud, its stats are not great. Highish HP and moderate Attack and Special Attack are undermined by his lack of defenses and Speed. The fact that it has both decent Attack and Special Attack and its wide movepool make it a decent mixed attacker however. Smogon University has nothing for Loudred, but a Diamond/Pearl entry for Exploud.

[EDIT]: It should also be noted that if Loudred gains the hidden ability Scrappy, it can damage Ghost type pokémon with Fighting and Normal attacks.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Naughty or Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/exploud):
Return
Earthquake
Crunch
Surf
Ice Beam
Substitute
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/1/12/294Loudred.png/180px-294Loudred.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 13, 2012, 12:11:02 PM
#43c: Furret
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/50/Spr_2c_162.gif)(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/162.gif)
NORMAL
Points: 24; Lists: 1; Highest: Thrifty (#2)

                                                                                                                                                                            Furret is basically a furry ferret (go figure). It is said to be a proficient hunter of Rattatas and digs very narrow burrows that predators can't fit into. It's mostly good at just being cute, though.

Furret is a Gen 2 pokémon appearing rarely in the grass of Route 1. Furret's stats are pretty low, except for its speed and HP, which are moderate. What it does have is a diverse movepool, which it could potentially use to become a decent revenge killer

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly or Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/furret):
Trick
Return
Brick Break
U-Turn
Shadow Claw
Sucker Punch
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/4/4b/162Furret.png/145px-162Furret.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: pegaso220379 on March 13, 2012, 02:50:10 PM
Girafarig, also a palindrome.  And more on what could have been the biggest freak of nature here.  I much prefer his chain-chomp.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Prototype_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_characters#Kirinriki
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 13, 2012, 03:59:58 PM
Girafarig, also a palindrome.

HOLY CRAP!

EDIT: Agreed about the chomp. Thanks for the link. Really interesting stuff here.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: CJones on March 13, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
Girafarig, also a palindrome.  And more on what could have been the biggest freak of nature here.  I much prefer his chain-chomp.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Prototype_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_characters#Kirinriki

Reminds me of CatDog (so which end defecates through it's mouth?)

After hours trying to figure out what Girafarig could be an anagram for, I finally realized I'd mixed up the words anagram and palindrome again.

Possibly fun fact: The Chinese, upon first seeing a giraffe, thought they have had found an actual Qilin, a mythical Chinese beast. The Japanese borrowed this idea (along with half the Chinese language), but changed the name to Kirin, which is the current Japanese name for giraffe. Americans further distorted the name in SaGa Frontier by spelling it Kylin.   
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 14, 2012, 08:38:37 AM
#41a: Venusaur
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/003.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/003.gif)
GRASS / POISON
Points: 24; Lists: 2; Highest: Relaxing Dragon (#3)

                                                                                                                                                                            Venusaur is the final evolution of Bulbasaur, the original Grass starter. The large flower on its back absorbs the sun's energy, which it can then blast at opponents in beam form.

Venusaur was the first and I think olny pokémon I trained to lvl 100. He's a bulky powerhouse with well balanced stats. After first Gen, he became much better, losing his 4x weakness to bug completely and picking up some attack options that weren't Normal or Grass. By Gen 3, it could learn Earthquake, which is a great counter to Fire types (if it doesn't die immediately). To help with the speed problem, though, Gen 5 allowed it to gain the hidden ability Chlorophyll, which doubles its speed under sunny conditions.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: can work with many options

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/venusaur):
Sleep Powder
Energy Ball
Giga Drain
Sludge Bomb
Growth
Earthquake
Power Whip
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/a/ae/003Venusaur.png/220px-003Venusaur.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 14, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
#41b: Phanpy
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/231.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/231.gif)
GROUND
Points: 24; Lists: 2; Highest: Pak-Man (#12)

(http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/312/5/b/phanpy_by_beyx-d4fkucm.png) (http://beyx.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d4fkucm)
by beyx via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Phanpy is a small, blue elephant with a built-in Breathe Right strip. It is about a foot and a half tall. Despite being weak to Water, they "thoroughly douse each other with water" using their trunks. And dispite that, they can't learn any Water attacks.

Phanpy is a Gen 2 pokémon exclusive to Silver and Heart Gold that evolves into Donphan at level 25. It's best stat is HP, which is well above average for a pre-evolved pokémon. Aside from that, it's pretty weak, though, especially its Special Defense, which is worrisomely low. It doesn't learn any Ground attacks naturally, but can be taught Earthquake.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Impish

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/phanpy):
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Toxic
Roar
Knock Off
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/d/d3/231Phanpy.png/180px-231Phanpy.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 14, 2012, 09:26:20 AM
#37a: Zekrom
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/644.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/644.gif)
DRAGON / ELECTRIC
Points: 25; Lists: 1; Highest: Smith Dr John Smith's brother (#1)

                                                                                                                                                                            Zekrom is one of the legendary Tao Trio and the mascot of Pokémon White. All of the Trio have a similar shape, including the bulbous tail that, on Zekrom especially, looks like a big drill. The data on Bulbapedia (presumably taken from the Pokédex data) says it's 9 feet, 6 inches tall, but in the show/movies, it appears to be more like 30. It also speaks through telepathy in some appearances.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/0c/Zekrom_M14.png/800px-Zekrom_M14.png)

Zekrom is of course super powerful—excelling in Attack, somewhat oddly, and lacking a bit in Speed. Its typing make it weak to Ground, Ice, and Dragon, while also giving it six resistances to very common attack types.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Lonely, Naughty, Adamant, Jolly

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/zekrom):
Bolt Strike
Draco Meteor
Dragon Claw
Outrage
Focus Blast
Volt Switch
Fusion Bolt
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/8/81/644Zekrom.png/175px-644Zekrom.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 14, 2012, 10:46:21 AM
#37b: Prinplup
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/394.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/394.gif)
WATER
Points: 25; Lists: 1; Highest: Compound (#1)

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/42/Kenny_Prinplup.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            Prinplup is the second stage of Gen 4 Water starter Piplup. It evolves into Empoleon at lvl 36. It seems to be based on the Macaroni Penguin, with its characteristic yellow eyebrow tufts turning into the large crests on Prinplup. They have a natural pride and a dapper appearance to go with it, including four button-like spots on its belly. This pride, verging on egotism, causes them to live in solitude in the wild. It is said to be able to chop down trees with its fins.

Prinplup has stats geared toward Special attack and defense, but they are all fairly even. Water and Flying attacks give it an edge over six types, including Grass, which it is weak to. It can learn Ground, Rock, Fighting, Ghost, and Ice moves through TMs. I've got a Prinplup in my Pearl game. I'm just waiting for him to learn Drill Peck before I evolve him. Then he'll be a badass.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Modest or Timidd

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/empoleon):
Surf
Ice Beam
Agility
Grass Knot
Hydro Pump
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/d/df/394Prinplup.png/170px-394Prinplup.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 14, 2012, 11:06:57 AM
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/8/81/644Zekrom.png/175px-644Zekrom.png)(http://i.imgur.com/euwjr.gif)

COINCIDENCE?!

EDIT: Probably should have circled the tails, but meh.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 14, 2012, 11:07:40 AM
#37c: Primeape
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/057.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/057.gif)
FIGHTING
Points: 25; Lists: 1; Highest: Thrifty (#1)

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/28/Ash_Primeape.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            A fierce, boxing pig-monkey, Primeape is insane with anger. It is known for pummeling people for looking at it the wrong way, and if it starts to chase something down, it will never give up. Similarly, its signature move Thrash causes it to go into a frenzy and it won't be able to use another move for several turns.

Primeape is a first Gen pokémon (Red exclusive), evolved from Mankey, which can be found on Routes 5, 6, 7, and 8. Not surprisingly, Primeape is stongly geared toward Attack, with a secondary stat in Speed. Its ability is either Vital Spirit, which prevents sleep, or Anger Point, which boosts Attack to +6 (max) when struck with a critical hit. In Gen 5, it can learn the hidden ability Defiant, which raises its attack by two stages everytime one of its stats is lowered.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Modest or Timidd

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/primeape):
Close Combat
Stone Edge
U-Turn
Ice Punch
Punishment
Encore
Substitute
Toxic
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/9/9a/057Primeape.png/170px-057Primeape.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 14, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Good old Venusaur (who was my #3, by the way, not #2). He was the first one I trained to juggernaut-status as well, and I got him to the point where I could handle even a high-level Charizard pretty well (sure, I didn't like to do it, but when push comes to shove I could throw down with Solar Beam with the best of them).
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 14, 2012, 11:36:46 AM
#37d: Beedrill
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/015.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/015.gif)
BUG / POISON
Points: 25; Lists: 1; Highest: gojikranz (#1)

(http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/022/b/f/Beedrill_Lv100_by_kyougyo.jpg) (http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=beedrill#/d2i598w)
by kyougyo via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Beedrill is a three-foot wasp with not only a large stinger, but two more, bigger stingers on its hands—all of which are poisonous. When it attacks, it visciously stabs with all of these repeatedly. Unlike a regular wasp, it only has four legs, and stands upright on two of them when not in flight. It is the final evolution of Weedle, hatching from its pupil state, Kakuna. Beedrill are very territorial and, according to in-game accounts, fast, making it very dangerous to approach their nests.

Weedle and Kakuna are found commonly in Red and Blue, but not at all in Yellow. Contrary to lore, Beedrill is not that fast, and it has terrible Defense. In fact, none of its stats are above average. In first Gen, its weaknesses and resistances were also quite bad, but after the changes made to Bug and Poison, they are at least even (with two .25x resistances in Fighting and Grass). Beedrill has the potential to be tricky, however. It can learn moves like Toxic Spikes to harrass the oposing team, and U-Turn, which allows it to attack and switch out. It can also learn Venoshock, which doubles in power (to 130) when the defending pokémon is already poisoned.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly or Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/beedrill):
U-Turn
Toxic Spikes
Pursuit
X-Scissor
Knock Off
Brick Break
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/6/61/015Beedrill.png/145px-015Beedrill.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 14, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
can't believe i left of primeape.

no love for beedrill? cmon its got three stingers what a badass.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 14, 2012, 12:12:46 PM
Beedrill's pretty great, but was one of the many Pokemans that got pushed off my list.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: pegaso220379 on March 14, 2012, 02:36:42 PM
Girafarig, also a palindrome.  And more on what could have been the biggest freak of nature here.  I much prefer his chain-chomp.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Prototype_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_characters#Kirinriki

Reminds me of CatDog (so which end defecates through it's mouth?)

After hours trying to figure out what Girafarig could be an anagram for, I finally realized I'd mixed up the words anagram and palindrome again.

Possibly fun fact: The Chinese, upon first seeing a giraffe, thought they have had found an actual Qilin, a mythical Chinese beast. The Japanese borrowed this idea (along with half the Chinese language), but changed the name to Kirin, which is the current Japanese name for giraffe. Americans further distorted the name in SaGa Frontier by spelling it Kylin.   

Along with Girafarig, Suicune and Arceus are also borrowed from the Qilin mythos.  More borrowing of ideas, Japan?
 
But, more fun with giraffes!  The Europeans named it camelopard, after its camel's looks and leopard's spots.  They even named a constellation after it.

http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/camelopardalis.htm

Sorry, it's Pi day and I'm getting my geek on.  (Which isn't too different from any day, really.)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: pegaso220379 on March 14, 2012, 02:56:19 PM
For Phanpy, they have the ability Pickup.  An occasional Rare Candy?  Win!!  "What, You want it, little Phanpy?  You can't have it!  You'll go Donphan and think you can get out of work!"

And yes, Beedril forever lives in my nightmares.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 14, 2012, 03:02:58 PM
Japan also jacked Goku from China. Journey to the West.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 15, 2012, 07:23:20 AM
#36: Blaziken
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/257.gif)          (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/257.gif)
FIRE / FIGHTING
Points: 26; Lists: 2; Highest: Coragale (#5)

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/14/May_Blaziken.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            The final evolution of Ruby/Saphire/Emerald starter Torchic, Blaziken is much less like a bird and more like some sort of disco...mountain man...Viewtiful Joe. It produces fire from its wrists and ankles and can jump over buildings.

The change from pure fire type to fire/fighting when it evolves into Combusken trades a weakness to rock for flying and psychic weaknesses, and adds a resistance to dark moves. Blaziken has both Attack and Special Attack in large amount, making it a diverse attacker.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly or Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/blaziken):
Swords Dance
Hi Jump Kick
Protect
Flare Blitz
Low Kick
Thunder Punch
Blaze Kick
Stone Edge
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/9/90/257Blaziken.png/150px-257Blaziken.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 15, 2012, 08:22:45 AM
#35: Ninetales
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/038.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/038.gif)
FIRE
Points: 26; Lists: 3; Highest: pegaso220387 (#9)

                                                                                                                                                                            Commonly misspelled "Ninetails," Ninetales does have nine tails, and I have never heard it tell a single tale. It is derived from Japanese folklore that says that "many-tailed foxes can breathe fire, create illusions, and have extremely long lifespans." The number nine is associated with suffering in Japan as well. Ninetales have a 75% chance to be female.

Ninetales is a first Gen pokémon exclusive to Blue. Vulpix can be found on Routes 7 and 8, and in Pokémon Mansion; in Yellow, they can be bought from the Rocket Game Corner. Ninetales has high speed and Special Defence, making it a good special wall, but it can just as easily be used as an attacker. It's wide movepool includes moves such as Energy Ball, Payback, Nasty Plot, and Hypnosis. Ninetales itself does not learn any moves by leveling up, however, so be sure to get all those moves with Vulpix before giving it a Fire Stone.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid, Modest, or Calm

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/ninetails):
Fire Blast
Flamethrower
Will-O-Wisp
Energy Ball
Hypnosis
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/05/038Ninetales.png/150px-038Ninetales.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 15, 2012, 12:18:47 PM
#34: Honchkrow
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/430.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/430.gif)
DARK / FLYING
Points: 28; Lists: 2; Highest: Pak-Man (#8)

(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/220/9/e/Honchkrow_by_heatrailshade.png)
by heatrailshade via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Honchkrow is the first mafia-affiliated pokémon, called a "Big Boss Pokémon" in Pokédex entries. The dorky witch hat of Murkrow changes into a stylish, large brimmed fedora and it gains a voluminous white ascot or cravat of down under its beak. He also seems to have a bouquet of roses in place of tailfeathers. I guess after finding out about all the floozies Honchkrow takes on the side, Mrs. Krow let him know where he could put his flowers.

Honchkrow is an added evolution (via Dusk Stone) for Gen 2 pokémon Murkrow that showed up in Gen 4 as a Diamond exclusive. Though its defenses are low, its HP is above average, leaving it with decent staying power. It's strength is its high Attack and Special Attack, along with one of  its abilities, Super Luck, which increases its chances for critical hits. In Gen 5, it can gain the hidden ability Moxie, which increases its Attack by one stage when it KOs an opponent. This makes it an adept sweeper, so the mob image is quite appropriate.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant or Naughty

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/honchkrow):
Brave Bird
Sucker Punch
Roost
Substitute
Pursuit
Superpower
Heat Wave
Night Slash
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/4/46/430Honchkrow.png/200px-430Honchkrow.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Johnny Unusual on March 15, 2012, 12:54:34 PM
Does that bird have a naturally occurring hat?  Also, if I ever release an album, I'll call it "Naturally Occurring Hat"
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 15, 2012, 01:40:42 PM
Looking at him, I see less a mafia guy and more a pimp (the animation is even him showing some unsuspecting ho the backside of his wing). Which works just as well, since the Pokemon world needs both.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 15, 2012, 02:15:24 PM
Honchkrow is AWESOME. As soon as I found out I could get one in Diamond, I got the HELL out of one.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Thrifty on March 15, 2012, 07:44:04 PM
Primeape has been my favorite Pokemon since the 1st generation days.  He sucked then, but when Fighting types became more useful in the 2nd generation, I was thrilled.  Mine had Cross Chop (Fighting type gotta have a good Fighting move) Endure, Reversal (Reversal is tricky without Endure) and Rock Slide to take care of flyers.  I did end up using a Primeape later with Earthquake instead of Endure.

I had a heck of a time figuring out how to breed Reversal onto my Primeape.  Nothing that  could breed with Primeape could learn it.  Except Smeargle :D  Of course nothing wild used Reversal.... I ended up getting something with Reversal, and no other moves, then using Mystery Gift with my cousin's Game Boy Color to get that Pokemon as the only Pokemon on the mystery trainer's team.   Then it was easy to get Smeargle to Sketch Reversal and breed it with a wild Mankey.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 15, 2012, 08:24:52 PM
#33: Gengar
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/094.gif)          (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/88/Spr_2c_094.gif)
GHOST / POISON
Points: 28; Lists: 3; Highest: Coragale (#14)

(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/026/8/a/gengar_by_rykyramirez-d4nnoqf.jpg)
by rykyramirez via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Constantly grinning malevalently, Gengar is a creepy guy. He could be based partially on the Cheshire cat. Not always malicious, Gengar mostly just enjoys playing tricks on people—pretending to be a person's shadow, for instance. In the episode "The Tower of Terror," Ash meets all three of his evolutionary stages, who try to entertain him with standup.

Gengar is a first Gen pokémon that evolves from Haunter only when it is traded. It has very high stats in Special Attack and Speed. Its low defenses and HP necessitate something like Substitute though.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/gengar):
Substitute
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Disable
Pain Split
Thunderbolt
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/c6/094Gengar.png/180px-094Gengar.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 15, 2012, 08:26:58 PM
#32: Mew
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/151.gif)(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/151.gif)
PSYCHIC
Points: 29; Lists: 2; Highest: Relaxing Dragon (#3)

(http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic275788_md.jpg)
"Ancient Mew" promo card

                                                                                                                                                                            Mew's existence is shrouded in mystery. It was hinted that this one-of-a-kind pokémon was used as the basis for the genetically engineered Mewtwo, and even that it was somehow the root of all forms of pokémon life. The Pokémon Stadium description indicates that it originates in South America, while the Red/Blue text merely states that many believe it to be a mirage. It plays a key role in Pokémon: The First Movie, as it is the only thing powerful enough to stand up to Mewtwo.

Outside the games is where its mythic status is most apparent, however. For a long time, Nintendo itself didn't know of its existence because one of the programmers put its data into the code at the last minute when he saw there would be room in the memory for just one more pokémon. (Incidentally, its pretty awesome that they used up the GameBoy's resources so efficiently). He did not program a way to obtain it, just the data. Thus, aside from the heads of the developer, Game Freak, it was some of the players who discovered it first—through glitches—and rumors of a hidden pokémon spread like wildfire. Nintendo used this to its advantage, running a sweepstakes to give 28 winners Mew. There were 78,000 entries, and the publicity catapulted Pokémon to bestseller status.

That was in Japan. In the states, there were many different rumors about how to obtain Mew. I remember hearing one where you swam around the S.S. Anne and some way to get on top of a girl's table and mess with one of her dolls. I tried them all, but none of them worked. Its stats are perfectly even and total 600, wheras Mewtwo's are biased toward Special Attack and speed, and total 680. The only thing Mew is better at is defenses. BUT, Mew is the only pokémon that can learn every TM and HM in the game.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid, Jolly, or Bold

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/mew):
It's pretty well open, but of course Psychic is a reliable STAB move.
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/b/b1/151Mew.png/200px-151Mew.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 15, 2012, 08:55:53 PM
#31: Butterfree
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/012.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/012.gif)
BUG / FLYING
Points: 30; Lists: 2; Highest: Relaxing Dragon (#8)

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a7/Jeremy_Butterfree.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            Butterfree is pretty much a butterfly. It has little hands and feet instead of six legs, and an odd little fanged snout, but other than that, yeah. It is known for saying "FREEBEE!" in a high falsetto, and thus is used by store owners to advertize free samples.

I've honestly always been mildly annoyed by Butterfree, and it was kind of bad in the games. Its stats were below average for a third stage pokémon, and it had more weaknesses than resistances—including a 4x weakness to Rock. One redeeming factor came with its ability Compound Eyes, which raises its Accuracy. This allowed it to use the usually dodgy Stun Spore and Sleep Powder with very nearly 100% accuracy. In Gen 5, Butterfree gained access to a hidden ability called Tinted Lens and a new attack, Quiver Dance. The former allows it to hit foes with resistances to its attack for double damage, essentially negating the resistance unless it is a double resistance. The latter is a move that raises Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed all at once.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/butterfree):
Quiver Dance
Stun Spore
Sleep Powder
U-Turn
Substitute
Big Buzz
Psychic
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/d/d1/012Butterfree.png/190px-012Butterfree.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 15, 2012, 09:01:10 PM
Never did like Gengar, never could get into him (by which I mean I could never get him). He was too much of a little imp.

I do <3 Mew. I actually watched that movie in a theater and got one of those Ancient Mew cards. Dunno where it went, but it counts for something. And I never could get him in the game, but I remember getting a perfect picture of him in Pokemon Snap (yeah, that game I remember. I like it, as I recall).

And while Butterfree wasn't the most powerful of mons, I actually tended to have one as a key party member for a good chunk of the start of the game. Gives you some good grass attacks, speed, and (most importantly) sleeping powder. I eventually needed to box him when things got tough, but I liked having the little guy around for a while.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 15, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
We lined up for the Pokemon movie, but they still ran out of Ancient Mew before we got our tickets. I have one now that I got in a trade at some point.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 15, 2012, 09:57:05 PM
Butterfree was ESSENTIAL to Brock's gym, if you had a Charmander. It learned Confusion, and none of the Pokemon in that gym had a resistance to it. It's speed was high enough that it'd go first, too. In Gen I, it was a monotype, I believe. I don't think they made splits until second Gen. This meant that it was only a little weak to rock.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 16, 2012, 12:28:47 AM
I'm probably not the first to come up with this, but I thought of it on my own.

My theory:

Gengar

(http://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/gengar.jpg)

is the ghost of Clefairy.

(http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg446/schrei_photo/Pokemon/Clefairy.jpg)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 16, 2012, 12:36:34 AM
You're not. I believe the theory is that Gengar is Clefable's shadow. The Pokedex calls him the Shadow Pokemon.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 16, 2012, 09:04:37 AM
#28a: Lucario
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/448.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/448.gif)
FIGHTING / STEEL
Points: 32; Lists: 2; Highest: Asbestos Bill (#3)

(http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2010/239/8/9/Lucario_used_Aura_Storm_by_purplekecleon.png)
by purplekecleon via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            For a long time, I thought it was a psychic pokemon due to its blue color and seemingly magic energy, but Lucario is an aura fighter, proficient at manipulating his chi or essence or whatever you want to call it. Not only does he use it to improve his strength and reflexes, but he can focus it into a hadouken-like blast. It can also read the auras of others, allowing it to predict their moves. Lucario can understand speech and communicate telepathically.

http://www.youtube.com/v/RELSX1rpiaY

Lucario was introduced in Gen 4, in which he is obtained by evolving a Riolu that is given to the player after traversing Iron Island with Riley. It is a proficient sweeper, with high Attack and Special Attack. Its typing gives it 9 resistances, one immunity, and only three weaknesses. Among these is a 4x resistance to Stealth Rock and an immunity to Toxic Spikes, two common entry hazards. Lucario has access to too many good moves to use, so there's a lot of room to tailor it to fit your team. Train Speed and Attack/Special Attack and wipe the opposing team out before they have a chance to react.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant, Jolly, Modest, or Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/lucario):
Nasty Plot
Aura Sphere
Extreme Speed
Close Combat
Ice Punch
Crunch
Agility
Shadow Ball
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/d/d7/448Lucario.png/190px-448Lucario.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 16, 2012, 09:12:53 AM
Butterfree was ESSENTIAL to Brock's gym, if you had a Charmander. It learned Confusion, and none of the Pokemon in that gym had a resistance to it. It's speed was high enough that it'd go first, too. In Gen I, it was a monotype, I believe. I don't think they made splits until second Gen. This meant that it was only a little weak to rock.

I can't find any confirmation of that, and in fact Smogon denies it... I'd have to find my Blue game to check for sure.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 16, 2012, 09:51:46 AM
#28b: Exeggcute
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/102.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/102.gif)
GRASS / PSYCHIC
Points: 32; Lists: 2; Highest: Pak-Man (#9)

                                                                                                                                                                            One of the weirdest pokémon concepts in first Gen, Exeggcute is a group of psychic rotten eggs. The form of telepathy that the species utilizes causes them to gather in groups of six, sort of like a cliquey hive mind. The Pokémon Yellow description says that "The heads attract each other and spin around. There must be six heads for it to maintain balance." If one of their group is lost, they will try to replace it with a similarly egg-like pokemon, such as Togepi, as seen in Pikachu's Rescue Adventure. In Crystal, however, the description says that if one is lost, it will rejoin the others "instantly."

Despite their similarity to eggs, Exeggcute are actually more like seeds, as revealed in the Fire Red description in Gen 4. It makes a little more sense, then, that it evolves into a tree.

In Red and Blue, the sprite for Exeggutor had one of the eggs about ten times larger than the others, which made it seem much more imposing than it was: (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/6a/Spr_1b_102.png) Actually, for a first stage pokémon, Exeggcute wasn't that bad. It has decent Defense and a lot of resistances...and a lot of weaknesses too. Its best chance is to try to put the opponent to sleep.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Bold, Modest, or Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/exeggcute):
Sleep Powder
Substitute
Leaf Storm
Psychic
Giga Drain
Synthesis
Sunny Day
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/a/af/102Exeggcute.png/200px-102Exeggcute.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 16, 2012, 10:34:22 AM
#28c: Empoleon
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/395.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/395.gif)
WATER / STEEL
Points: 32; Lists: 2; Highest: Asbestos Bill (#5)

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/188/b/c/Empoleon_used_Surf_by_seiryuuden.jpg)
by seiryuuden via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Rarely has there been a more badass penguin. Empoleon may have the stature of his French namesake (to the inch, in fact), but it also has huge, steel rimmed wings and a beak that forms a trident-like crown, making him much more imposing than that Bonaparte loser. They lead large colonies of their kind, the Empoleon with the largest crest being the alpha male.

Empoleon is the final evolution of fourth Gen starter Piplup. It is a powerhouse pokémon, with a huge list of resistances thanks to its type pairing, and is one of few Water types to be damaged normally by Grass. It excells in Special Attack and Special Defense. Empoleon can tank Special damage efficiently, although it has no recovery moves.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Calm, Modest, or Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/empoleon):
Ice Beam
Scald
Surf
Grass Knot
Stealth Rock
Agility
Roar
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/7f/395Empoleon.png/210px-395Empoleon.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on March 16, 2012, 10:38:41 AM
I love Japan, they really have some creative minds...
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 16, 2012, 11:05:21 AM
#27: Ditto
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/132.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/132.gif)
NORMAL
Points: 32; Lists: 3; Highest: Smith Dr John Smith's brother (#9)

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/160/3/7/Ditto_Hat_by_clearkid.png)
by clearkid via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Ditto is a very unique pokémon, whose only ability is to transform into a copy of any pokémon it faces or any object. Actually, Mew can also turn into other pokémon, but Ditto is the only reproducing species that can. Sometimes, Ditto forgets or is unable to transform its face, resulting in a doppleganger that has Ditto's tiny eyes and wide mouth.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/3a/Duplica_Ditto_Pikachu.png)

In Red and Blue, Ditto can be encountered on routes 13, 14, 15, and 23, and in Cerulean Cave. It has very bad stats, but they change along with everything else when it transforms...except HP. It is always going to be at a disadvantage because you have to waste a turn on Transform. The only way to regain an even playing field is to put status effects on the whole opposing team beforehand.

In Gen 5, Ditto gets a hidden ability, Imposter, which makes it transform when the opponent switches in. This could be good? At least you don't have to use a turn on it, but it doesn't work when you switch in...

If you want to catch a Ditto before Gen 5, start with a pokémon with an easy catch rate, such as a Caterpie, as Ditto will copy that too when it transforms.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/empoleon):
Transform
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/3/36/132Ditto.png/200px-132Ditto.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 16, 2012, 11:26:49 AM
Of course the best use for Ditto is to put him out to stud in the daycare because he'll breed with any pokemon of any gender. No need to worry about catching females or catching certain compatable types (Unless you're breeding for a move). If you want an egg of a pokemon, you just need any of that pokemon.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 16, 2012, 12:17:34 PM
Of course the best use for Ditto is to put him out to stud in the daycare because he'll breed with any pokemon of any gender. No need to worry about catching females or catching certain compatable types (Unless you're breeding for a move). If you want an egg of a pokemon, you just need any of that pokemon.

That's right. I forgot to go into that.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 16, 2012, 01:44:10 PM
maybe at the end you should add up the votes for each evolution tree.  i think i had haunter instead of gengar cause i never traded up to gengar.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 16, 2012, 03:26:06 PM
My biggest memory of Ditto is that the very first time I encountered one, I accidentally wasted my Master Ball in catching it.

Come to think of it, I made a ton of basic screw-ups in my early playthroughs, back in my Game Boy Pocket days (I had never played games before... ever. It's a remarkable learning curve to look back on now).
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 17, 2012, 11:42:15 AM
Only 2 away from half done. That's usually about how I pace my list. Half one week half the other. Plus he's been listing all the ties in the same placing. If he'd just grabbed the top-most 50, it would probably be done now.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 17, 2012, 11:50:19 AM
Only 2 away from half done. That's usually about how I pace my list. Half one week half the other. Plus he's been listing all the ties in the same placing. If he'd just grabbed the top-most 50, it would probably be done now.

One away actually. I got distracted yesterday and forgot to post #26. And the ties are not increasing the length because I'm using standard competition ranking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranking#Standard_competition_ranking_.28.221224.22_ranking.29).

#26: Hypno
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/097.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/097.gif)
PSYCHIC
Points: 33; Lists: 2; Highest: Coragale (#4)

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs21/f/2007/238/4/6/Hypno_by_KaseyKase.png)
by KaseyKase via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Hypno is a humanoid pokemon that puts people to sleep with its pendulum in order to feast on their dreams. It often does this to passing travelers on lonely roads. The Fire Red description notes one incident in which a Hypno led away a child it had hypnotized. Its appearance is marked by its large nose and ruff of white fur around its neck, making it look somewhat like the Spider Man villain, The Vulture:

(http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans/ASM7_Vulture.JPG)

Hypno has mostly average stats except for his high Special Defense. His speed is low, but he can use Trick Room to reverse move order. Hypno is probably best used as a support and/or special wall. It can use Wish and Protect to heal and stall while whiddling them down with something like Toxic. Because Wish heals the turn after it is used, it can also be used to heal pokémon that switch into it.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Calm, Quiet, or Modest

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/hypno):
Nasty Plot
Wish
Protect
Trick Room
Pasychic
Shadow Ball
Toxic
Thunder Wave
Baton Pass
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/0a/097Hypno.png/180px-097Hypno.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Johnny Unusual on March 17, 2012, 11:52:43 AM
Can we at least solicit the next list now then so there isn't more delay?

I sent mine in.  I always do it early cause I just can't wait.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 17, 2012, 03:41:55 PM
Can we at least solicit the next list now then so there isn't more delay?

There's been no delay, but do whatever you want. I'm gonna continue following the implicit LOC protocol.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 17, 2012, 04:32:57 PM
#25: Charizard
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/006.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/006.gif)
FIRE / FLYING
Points: 33; Lists: 3; Highest: Smith Dr John Smith's brother (#4)

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs31/f/2008/220/1/2/125b8743016eff64d03c9eccb451cdc4.jpg)
by eic via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Charizard is the obligatory fire breathing dragon. At the end of its tail is a flame that burns strogner as it gains experience—if it is put out, the pokémon will die. Charizards like to fight by nature, but won't attack weaker pokémon unless provoked or commanded to do so.

I don't know what popular opinion was when the Red and Blue were first released, but when the card game came out, Charizard was THE rare card. Actually, there was ostensibly a pokémon popularity contest in Official Nintendo Magazine just last month that ranked him at #1, so he's still pretty popular. As far as the game goes, Charizard is unfortunately outclassed by Moltres, who shares the same types and has higher stats except for speed. To make up for this, in Black and White, Charizard can get the hidden ability Solar Power, which decreases HP but raises Special Attack by 50% when in sunshine.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/charizard):
Sunny Day
Fire Blast
Air Slash
Solar Beam
Focus Blast
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/7e/006Charizard.png/230px-006Charizard.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 17, 2012, 05:15:25 PM
Coragale just pointed out that it isn't quite fair to compare Charizard to a legendary pokémon, which is kind of true. The legendaries in the original games weren't nearly as overpowered, though, and Moltres is so bad that it hardly counts as legendary. Charizard and Moltres are both in the Rarely Used tier in online tournaments, which is why it came up.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 17, 2012, 05:24:51 PM
#23a: Marill
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/183.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/183.gif)
WATER
Points: 35; Lists: 2; Highest: Pak-Man (#3)

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/072/b/2/Marill_by_SailorClef.jpg)
by SailorClef via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Marill uses the ball on its tail as a buoy to keep it afloat. It dives to the bottom of rivers to eat plants, with the ball bobbing on the surface. I've never had one of these, so I don't really have anything else to say about it...

Marill is a Gen 2 pokémon that is found on Mt. Mortar. Its stats are pretty low, although it does have decent "bulk" (combined HP, Defense, and Special Defense), but if it has the Huge Power ability, its Attack is doubled. Then if it gets the Sap Sipper hidden ability in Gen 5, it gets immunity from Grass, which it would normally be weak to. Its main drawback is its low speed, which can be made up for with Aqua Jet, a priority attack that is also physical (to make use of Marill's boosted Attack), but the move itself is relatively low in power.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/azumarill):
Waterfall
Aqua Jet
Ice Punch
Return
Focus Punch
Double Edge
Superpower
Toxic
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/4/42/183Marill.png/220px-183Marill.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 17, 2012, 08:44:06 PM
#23b: Jigglypuff
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/039.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/039.gif)
NORMAL
Points: 35; Lists: 2; Highest: Pak-Man (#1)

(http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2010/129/8/a/Jigglypuff_used_Outrage_by_purplekecleon.png)
by purplekecleon via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Jigglypuff is the cute little puffball with the volitile personality. At least in the anime, in which it got mad when everyone was lulled to sleep by its lullabies. Jigglypuff's vocal chords (sic.) are able to change the wavelength of it's voice, according to the Ruby description. Just in case you were wondering what vocal cords (sorry, "chords") are for. It is known as a Balloon Pokémon, and uses its lung capacity to sing non-stop without breathing. Apparently, if a foe does not fall asleep quickly, it can endanger its own life by trying to continue singing as it runs out of breath.

Jigglypuff is a first Gen pokémon found on Route 3 in Red and Blue, and Routes 5, 6, 7, and 8 in Yellow. It has high HP, but is weak in all other areas. It does have a lot of defense moves, so its strategy is usually geared around that. It is a much better fighter in Super Smash Bros., which is the only arena where it can hope to beat Lucario.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Calm

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/wigglytuff):
Reflect
Light Screen
Wish
Seismic Toss
Heal Bell
Sealth Rock
Protect
Thunder Wave
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/3/3e/039Jigglypuff.png/200px-039Jigglypuff.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 17, 2012, 09:14:53 PM
#22: Mawile
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/303.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/303.gif)
STEEL
Points: 35; Lists: 3; Highest: pegaso220379 (#4)

                                                                                                                                                                            Mawile is an interesting case. It, at first glance, seems like just an off-the-wall concept—a pokémon with a big, aligator-like mouth growing out of the back of its head. Mawile actually has its roots is ancient Japanese mythology, though. There is a legend of a woman with a second mouth in the back of her head, called a futakuchi-onna, or "two-mouthed woman." In one version of the story, a miserly stepmother starved her stepdaughter to death because she favored her real children. The spirit of the girl inhabited the back of the stepmother's head and tormented her, forcing her to feed it constantly. In these stories, the mouth often also uses the hair as appendages.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/40/Futakuchi-onna.jpg)

Mawile's head jaws, while explained in-game as horns, appear more like hair, and the pokédex lists it as a "deceiver pokémon." To read the full story, click here (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Mawile) for the Origin of Species column.

Mawile was introduced in Gen 3 as a Ruby exclusive. Its stats are nothing special, with a focus on Attack and Defense. Of course the Steel type brings with it a ton of resistances and a poison immunity. With the hidden ability Sheer Force, Mawile gains an ace up its sleeve. It increases the power of moves with secondary effects by 30%, but removes the effects.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/mawile):
Swords Dance
Iron Head
Fire fang
Sucker Punch
Crunch
Baton Pass
Taunt
Substitute
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/c0/303Mawile.png/180px-303Mawile.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 17, 2012, 09:39:12 PM
#21: Hitmonlee
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d3/Spr_3f_106.png)           (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/0f/Spr_3e_106.gif)
Fighting
Points: 35; Lists: 4; Highest: Coragale (#7)

                                                                                                                                                                            Hitmonlee, along with Hitmonchan, is one of a pair of fighting pokémon—not initially related, though now parallel evolutions of Tyrogue—that are based on famous fighters. In Japan, their names are based on Tadashi Sawamura, the first kickboxer, and Hiroyuki Ebihara, a boxing champ. In the english versions, they are based on Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan. Hitmonlee's appearance is rather odd. While Hitmonchan is very humanoid, Hitmonlee has no head, but instead keeps his eyes in his chest. He also flexy straws for legs.

Hitmonlee is acquired in Red and Blue by choosing between it and Hitmonchan after beating the Fighting Dojo in Saffron City. Hitmonlee has very high attack and Special Defense stats for a single-evolution pokémon. With the ability Reckless, his attack power is further increased for moves that deal recoil damage.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant or Jolly

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/hitmonlee):
Hi Jump Kick
Double Edge
Sucker Punch
Stone Edge
Mach Punch
Close Combat
Rapid Spin
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/3/32/106Hitmonlee.png/190px-106Hitmonlee.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 17, 2012, 10:02:40 PM
[Jigglypuff] is a much better fighter in Super Smash Bros., which is the only arena where it can hope to beat Lucario.

And I'll KEEP beating you. AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN! BWAHAHA!
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 17, 2012, 11:25:44 PM
Woo! Jigglypuff! I think what I like most about him is his blank, cheery expression as he pummels your pokemon. There's something demasculating about being beaten by something called a Jigglypuff, and I enjoy passing out that Demasculation. :^)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 18, 2012, 12:19:32 AM
oh ya hitmonlee i had him as oppossed to chan (on my list and in my game)  gotta love kicking stuff.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 18, 2012, 06:31:47 AM
Hitmonlee, along with Hitmonchan, is one of a pair of fighting pokémon—not initially related, though now parallel evolutions of Hitmontop

All the hitmons evolve from Tyrogue, actually.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 18, 2012, 08:41:10 AM
Hitmonlee, along with Hitmonchan, is one of a pair of fighting pokémon—not initially related, though now parallel evolutions of Hitmontop

All the hitmons evolve from Tyrogue, actually.

Fixed.

And we need more things like this on this list:

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/226/b/e/Asshole_Pokemon_Trainer_by_michaelfirman.gif)



Coragale, I know you're holding out.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 18, 2012, 01:07:27 PM
I bring them when I can:

(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/316247441_Vf8ff-L-2.jpg)

Marill caused a bit of a stir way back when on the playground in elementary school. I'm talking when all there was was Red and Blue, and possible sequels were but a vague rumor (this was a simpler, pre-internet time, when the world seemed so pure and mysterious). Some pics of Marill popped up, and everyone thought it was a new Pikachu evolution that you get by crossing it with the surfstone called Pikablu. I tried for so many hours to find that damn stone based on some "walkthroughs" I found online, along with others that said if you beat the Elite 4 99 times then you'd gain access to a secret city after the 100th. I actually made it about 20-something times in before giving up.

Like I said, it was a simpler time.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 18, 2012, 01:13:18 PM
#20: Pidgeot
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/018.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/018.gif)
NORMAL / FLYING
Points: 36; Lists: 2; Highest: Relaxing Dragon (#4)

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/2/27/Jenny_Pidgeot.png/800px-Jenny_Pidgeot.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            Pidgeot is a large bird of prey evolved from the very common Pidgey. It hunts fish and bugs with the grace and precision of an eagle. In the anime, Ash Ketchum used a pidgeot that he caught as a Pidgeotto. It evolved when Ash was attacked by a flock of Fearow, to protect him. Subsequently, Ash released it to let it look after a flock of Pidgies and Pidgeottos. Pidgeot's colors and long head plumage have led some to thorize that it is in part based on Ra and or Horace:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Re-Horakhty.svg/220px-Re-Horakhty.svg.png)

Pidgeot is an often overlooked pokémon in Red and Blue, perhaps because of the commonness of Pidgey in early areas. Pidgeot is a powerful bird, though. Mirror Move is what allows Pidgeot to use moves outside its relatively narrow moovepool, so should always be considered. Normal STAB moves are another staple. Pidgeot is good as a sweeper or setup for a team. Unfortunately for Pidgeot, subsequent generations have brought with them many Normal / Flying types that simply outclass Pidgeot, leaving it in the dust.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly or Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/rb/pokemon/pidgeot):
Mirror Move
Double-Edge
Hyper Beam
Agility
Mimic
Substitute
Fly
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/5/57/018Pidgeot.png/165px-018Pidgeot.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 18, 2012, 01:22:24 PM
Uploading them as we speak.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 18, 2012, 01:27:57 PM
Without even meaning to do it, Pidgeot became a key member of my team for most of my playthroughs, sometimes right to the end. It was crazy fast (thanks partially to the stat boosters I kept feeding it) and back in the early days not many fliers could outclass it. Was a pretty well balanced mon, though sometimes I needed to use Fly a lot to keep it out of harms way (and then there were those awkward moments when I used Fly the same time the other guy used Dig).
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 18, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Here's something.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 18, 2012, 01:44:51 PM
#19: Shedinja
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/292.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/292.gif)
BUG / GHOST
Points: 37; Lists: 2; Highest: Invader Quirk (#9)

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/25/Hansen_Shedinja.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            What if after a cicada emerged from its old skin, the skin kept living as its own creature? That's what Shedinja is. When Nincada evolves into Ninjask, Shedinja is left over. Little is known about the pokémon except that it is protective of Ninjask, quiet, and deceptively fragile.

Shedinja is unique in many ways, and demands a unique strategy. Aside from being the only byproduct pokémon, it is the only pokémon with only 1 HP—if it's hit, it's dead. HOWEVER, it is also the only pokémon with the Wonder Guard ability, which makes it only able to be hit by super-effective moves. For Shedinja, that means it can only be defeated by Fire, Flying, Rock, Ghost, and Dark moves. ...And status moves, because it can be burned or poisoned.

This bizarre set of traits makes Shedinja extremely tricky to use, and it will always be a gambit. But if it is properly set up, it could just win your battle for you. Unfortunately, it can't learn reversal, which guages its power off of remaining HP, being power 200 at 1HP. It can learn Final Gambit, though, which does the same thing except that the user faints to perform it.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Lonely

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/shedinja):
Swords Dance
X-Scissor
Shadow Sneak
Protect
Final Gambit
Trick
Sucker Punch
Will-O-Wisp
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/5/59/292Shedinja.png/180px-292Shedinja.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 18, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
Some pics of Marill popped up, and everyone thought it was a new Pikachu evolution that you get by crossing it with the surfstone called Pikablu.

I REMEMBER THIS. I don't remember the rumor of using a surfstone, but I definitely remember people calling it Pikablu.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 18, 2012, 07:58:14 PM
I remember the rumors that you could catch a Mew by swimming through some city to a truck and using strength to push the truck after completing the Pokedex, etc, etc... :^)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 18, 2012, 09:05:51 PM
I remember the rumors that you could catch a Mew by swimming through some city to a truck and using strength to push the truck after completing the Pokedex, etc, etc... :^)

I tried the truck one. It took a crazy amount of effort to trade for a Pokemon that had Cut and another with Surf so I could get to it in the first place (the version I heard was that you needed to do this while the S.S. St. Anne was still around). I was so excited... and then nothing.

It was a dark time when I realized there wasn't quite as much in video games as I'd been led to believe there was.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 18, 2012, 09:09:17 PM
I remember the rumors that you could catch a Mew by swimming through some city to a truck and using strength to push the truck after completing the Pokedex, etc, etc... :^)

yep and a similar story to the pikablu one above was you get mew after you beat elite 4 100 times. 

i also remember the pikablu myths quite exciting times.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 18, 2012, 09:17:30 PM
#18: Mudkip
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WATER
Points: 39; Lists: 3; Highest: Compound (#4)

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by The-EverLasting-Ash via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            I heard you liek them. Mudkips are small amphibians with spiky orange gills on its cheeks. The large fin on its head can sense movement around it, acting as a kind of radar. When under duress, it can tap into its inner strength to crush rocks bigger than itself. It buries itself in soft soil to sleep.

Mudkip is the Gen 3 water starter, eventually evolving into Swampert. it has a decent Attack and otherwise average stats. While its moovepool is not large, it does have access to some uncommon moves and thus has some interesting options.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/mudkip):
Waterfall
Rock Slide
Double-Edge
Return
Superpower
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Curse
Counter
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 18, 2012, 10:24:32 PM
#17: Charmander
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FIRE
Points: 42; Lists: 2; Highest: Compound (#2)

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by Vermeilbird via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Charmander is a fire lizard, based on old superstitions revolving around salamanders. It was believed that they could survive a fire, and even that they could start fires. Hence, Charmander. Unlike its evolutions, Charmander is friendly and well-behaved.

Charmander is, of course, the fire starter from Red and Blue, and we've already talked about his hardships in the first two gyms. Unlike other fire pokemon, Charmander has some unusual moves it can learn, including several Dragon moves.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/charmander):
Dragon Dance
Fire Blitz
Brick Break
Rock Slide
ThunderPunch*
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/73/004Charmander.png/185px-004Charmander.png)

*ThunderPunch is listed in both the recommended movesets on Smogon University, but every source I've looked at says Charmander can't learn it... I'm not sure what they were thinking.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 18, 2012, 10:49:21 PM
#16: Raichu
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ELECTRIC
Points: 42; Lists: 3; Highest: pegaso220387 (#2)

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                                                                                                                                                                            Raichu is the evolution of Pikachu, obtained by exposing Pikachu to a Thunderstone. Raichu is much more aggressive than its predecessor. Like Pikachu, it stores electricity in the patches on its cheeks. Fun Fact: Thomas Edison actually used a Raichu to electrocute the elephant he recorded, as hinted in the Fire Red description:

Quote
Its electric charges can reach even 100,000 volts. Careless contact can cause even an Indian elephant to faint.

And speaking of "Pikablu," apparently a mistranslation in Red and Blue was another contributor to the theory that Marill was in the Raichu evolutionary tree. In the Japanese Blue, a scientist on Cinnabar Island trades a Graveler for a Kadabra. Afterwards, he remarks that the pokémon he recieved evolved because Graveler and Alakazam evolve upon trading. In the English versions, you trade him a Raichu for an Electrode, but he says the same thing, leading people to believe there was another, hidden stage to its evolution.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/raichu):
Nasty Plot
Thunderbolt
Encore
Grass Knot
Focus Blast
Volt Switch
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/8/88/026Raichu.png/190px-026Raichu.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 18, 2012, 10:52:15 PM
Mudkip isn't a bug ghost type.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: CJones on March 19, 2012, 08:45:25 AM
Quote
Fun Fact: Thomas Edison actually used a pikachu to electrocute the elephant he recorded, as hinted in the Fire Red description

I kinda doubt that's actually true. I am happy to see that Raichu made it though.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 19, 2012, 09:11:14 AM
Quote
Fun Fact: Thomas Edison actually used a pikachu to electrocute the elephant he recorded, as hinted in the Fire Red description

I kinda doubt that's actually true. I am happy to see that Raichu made it though.

Which part do think isn't true? That they were hinting at that?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 19, 2012, 10:09:19 AM
Just checked my Fire Red Pokedex entry. It's confirmed.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 19, 2012, 11:48:44 AM
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 19, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 19, 2012, 05:04:00 PM
#15: Blastoise
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WATER
Points: 42; Lists: 3; Highest: Asbestos Bill (#7)

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                                                                                                                                                                            Blastoise is a tank of a pokémon—a huge tortoise with dual water cannons on its back that are said to be powerful enough to cut through steel. The cannons can also be rotated to point backward in order to facilitate jet-powered body slams. It is actually not that heavy, weighing only 188 pounds, but it is quite hardy.

Blastoise is the final stage of first Gen water starter Squirtle. It has high Defense and Special Defense, with the other stats hovering in the middle range. It has two weaknesses and four resistances, and is the only single type pokémon of the first Gen starters at their final stages. It has access to a number of support moves to harrass the oppositon while it tanks, including Foresight, Yawn, Roar, Dragon Tail, and of course Toxic.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Bold

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/raichu):
Scald
Rapid Spin
Roar
Toxic
Dragon Tail
Foresight
Surf
Ice Beam
Rest
Sleep Talk
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/02/009Blastoise.png/160px-009Blastoise.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 19, 2012, 05:24:48 PM
#14: Parasect
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BUG / GRASS
Points: 43; Lists: 2; Highest: Invader Quirk (#3)

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                                                                                                                                                                            Parasect is based on an actual fungus that infects ants. The fungus slowly eats the non-essential bodily functions, then compels the host to climb a blade of grass, where it disintegrates in the wind, spreading the fungal spores. That's why Paras' evolved form, Parasect, has dead, gray eyes. When you evolve Paras, you kill it and gain a fungus that uses your old pokémon's corpse as a host.

Parasect can be found in Safari Zone or Cerulean Cave in Red and Blue, or evolved from the more common Paras. Strategically, its typing is risky, having six weaknesses and five resistances, two of each of which are doubled. Fortunately, the resistances are for more common attack types than half of the weaknesses, and if it has the ability Dry Skin, its resistance to Water becomes an immunity. It's still a pretty big gamble, but the move that makes it worth the risk is Spore, a 100% accurate sleep inducer that, in first Gen, was exclusive to Paras and Parasect, and even in Gen 5, only 5 pokémon can learn it.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Careful or Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/parasect):
Spore
X-Scissor
Aromatherapy
Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Substitute
Protect
Seed Bomb
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/8/80/047Parasect.png/160px-047Parasect.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 19, 2012, 08:24:57 PM
#12a: Steelix
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STEEL / GROUND
Points: 47; Lists: 3; Highest: Asbestos Bill (#3)

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                                                                                                                                                                            Steelix is a gigantic metal snake. In lore, it is said to be formed by an Onyx being compressed deep underground, which forges it into a metal harder than diamonds.

In the game, Steelix is acquired by trading an Onyx while it is holding a Metal Coat. It has incredibly high Defense and its typing gives it nine resistances and two immunities. Its main threats are Fire and Water, which it is weak to, and even Grass and Ice, which deal normal damage but are likely to match up against its lesser, Special Defense rather than Defense.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Relaxed or Sassy

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/steelix):
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Curse
Gyro Ball
Roar
Dragon Tail
Toxic
Stone Edge
Explosion
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 19, 2012, 08:42:15 PM
Steelix was one I always really, really wanted when I played Silver. Mostly because he was like Onyx, only he was actually a worthwhile fighter.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 19, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
#12b: Bulbasaur
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GRASS / POISON
Points: 47; Lists: 3; Highest: Relaxing Dragon (#1)

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by Lanmana via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            We passed Bulbasaur's final form, Venusaur, a ways back, but Bulbasaur surpassed it through sheer charisma (I'm guessing). Bulbasaur are lap pokémon known for their loyalty and obedience. The bulb on their back is not only a Swiss Army Knife of surprises (bullet seeds, vine whips, various spores...) but a handy alternative source of nutrients. When food is scarce, Bulbasaur can sit in the sun and photosynthesize.

As a starter, Bublasaur has a lot of appeal. Not only is he strong against the first two gyms, but he's bulkier and less cutesy than the other two, while still being charming. That's why I picked him years ago. As a Little Cup competitor, Bulbasaur has good Special Attack and Special Defense. It doesn't have a lot of options in its attacking moovepool, but with the speed boost of a Choice Scarf, it makes a good revenge killer.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Modest

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/bulbasaur):
Sleep Powder
Leaf Storm
Sludge Bomb
Toxic
Venoshock
Leaf Storm
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/2/21/001Bulbasaur.png/160px-001Bulbasaur.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 19, 2012, 09:22:29 PM
Ah, Bulbasaur. My very first Pokemon, the one that started it all. Sure, he was probably the easiest option, considering how well he worked against the first two gyms (especially Misty), but he was such a lovable little guy you just didn't mind. Pretty much the first one I think of when someone says Pokemon.

And now, a relevant comic from one of my favorite comic artists (a very old scan, so be prepared for some tiny writing):
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And then the sequel (in color!):
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 19, 2012, 10:16:25 PM
#11: Farfetch'd
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NORMAL / FLYING
Points: 48; Lists: 3; Highest: Asbestos Bill (#2)

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/2b/Holly_Farfetch%27d.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            Farfetch'd may be weak, but he's a pretty cool guy. He hits things with a leek and doesn't afraid of anything. Farfetch'd are very protective of that leek, treating it as a swordsman would a prized blade. Their personality is overall very knightlike, in fact, and they are perhaps the most chivalrous of pokémon.

They are more than just honorable leek-weilders, however. Farfetch'd holds an interesting significance in Japanese culture by being an illustration of an idom: A duck bearing onions. This is a phrase to describe a serendipitous event—green onions being the second most important ingredient for a duck stew (the first should be obvious). This coincides with the rarity of Farfetch'd in-game, who was originally a one-time trade offer by an NPC in Red and Blue and who has ever since been tricky to obtain. Click here (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Farfetch%27d) for the full article, which also goes into a second meaning of the phrase.

I found the Smogon write up for Farfetch'd humorous, and I don't think I can say it any better:


Quote from: Smogon University
In Generation V, many monsters rely on cowardly tactics—hit-and-run maneuvers with Choice items, unfairly exploiting their foes' typings to set up, or using despicable entry hazards to violate the sanctity of Focus Sash. Some simply use sheer brute force to crush those foes who are less fortunate, or a favorable typing and natural defensive power to wall their foes. Farfetch'd is a simpler kind of Pokémon. An honorable Pokémon. A decent Pokémon. Using Farfetch'd isn't just picking a team member—it's standing up for the restoration of knightly virtue to Pokémon battles. Farfetch'd can't use Choice items; it doesn't have a STAB combo that leaves many Pokémon no choice but to flee. Nor does it wield those entry hazards, or any other such trickery. And of course it is humble, statistically. Farfetch'd is a Pokémon which desires a duel; in a situation where its foes grant it the chance it needs to show its abilities, it cannot be beat.

While this set is superficially similar to such brutes as Terrakion, or even the violent god Arceus, Farfetch'd functions entirely differently from them. Those Pokémon get their opportunity to set up by treacherous means—threatening premature violence against unprepared foes chief among these. Farfetch'd instead believes in its foe's honor—a three-turn preparation period is agreed to, during which Farfetch'd and its foe ready themselves.

Farfetch'd dances with its blade, and at the end of the three turns its Attack stat is 1004. Perhaps its foe will have made similar efforts, or perhaps it will have changed places with a comrade better equipped to fight Farfetch'd. Either way, Farfetch'd will then unleash its full power. With Return, Farfetch'd's blade shall cleave many foes in two, but some survive. Fear not! Against these greater enemies, Farfetch'd spreads its wings and unleashes Brave Bird. Foes as great as the mighty elephant Donphan will be broken.

Steel-type Pokémon, with armored hides and iron fangs, can survive Farfetch'd's attacks. However, if they have any honor at all they will not take these traits without offering their offensive capabilities in trade; Farfetch'd's Revenge gives it a chance, however slim, against these.

Even with all your setup, many foes will still outrun Farfetch'd and kill it before it has a chance to strike—for example, Terrakion. Or Dragonite. Or Haxorus. Or Salamence. Or Scizor. Or Gyarados. Or Lucario. Or Metagross—these are but a scant few of the members of this list. There's no shame in dying with honor, though. As long as Farfetch'd stays and fights to the end, that's enough; better a noble death than a cheap victory. Ladder ratings may fall, but your spirit shall soar.

Farfetch'd has some extent of less honorable fare, such as Toxic and Knock Off, with which to attempt a support set. Nonetheless, it's a disgraceful path for Farfetch'd to go down, and one in which it is entirely outclassed by Archeops. Or Archen.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly or Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/farfetchd):
Swords Dance
Return
Brave Bird
Revenge
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/f/f8/083Farfetch%27d.png/150px-083Farfetch%27d.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 20, 2012, 01:06:33 PM
#10: Gardevoir
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/282.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/282.gif)
PSYCHIC
Points: 49; Lists: 2; Highest: pegaso220379 (#1)

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by purplekecleon via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Gardevoir takes the form of an elegant woman, though it can technically be either male or female. It evolves from Kirlia, the "Empathy Pokémon" to become the "Embrace Pokémon." If a male Kirlia is exposed to a dawn stone, however, it would instead become Gallade, the "Blade Pokémon." Gardevoir, by contrast, prefers peace to conflict, and will defend its trainer to the death if necessary. Its name is most likely French inspired, from "garde" (guard) and "voir" (to see) or "devoir" (duty). The idea of seeing comes into play through Gardevoir's clairvoyant abilities.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a0/Melodi_Gardevoir.png)

Gardevoir was introduced in Gen 3. Despite seeming to be all about defense, it has great Special Attack. Of course, as a special attacker, Gardevoir will have to compete with pokémon such as Alakazam, but it has a diverse moovepool that allows for many options.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid, Modest, or Bold

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/gardevoir):
Psychic
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
Calm Mind
Trick
Will-O-Wisp
Reflect
Wish
Light Screen
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: goflyblind on March 20, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
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y'know, other than killing people, roadside bombs are pretty neat.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: CJones on March 20, 2012, 04:16:39 PM
It only just now occurred to me, Parsas (which I had at #1) is short for Paralysis.

Also, why is there no #13? Don't tell me you're superstitious....
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 20, 2012, 05:45:44 PM
farfetchd!  i always liked trading for it it was pretty cool.  come to think of it i was really into birds i liked the legendary birds i always had a spearow/fearow for a long time early on.  farfetchd pigeot.  love the birds.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 20, 2012, 06:36:36 PM
#9: Kabutops
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/141.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/141.gif)
ROCK / WATER
Points: 50; Lists: 3; Highest: Invader Quirk (#5)

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b9/Brock_Kabutops_Adventures.png)(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/7f/Kabutops_Fossil_anime.png/390px-Kabutops_Fossil_anime.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            Kabutops was an extict pokémon until scientists ressurected it using a fossil. Though its adolescent form looks like a trilobite or horseshoe crab, Kabutops' stance and scythe-like arms resemble a praying mantis. It may be based on the Trilobite Beetle, which is longer, and has spiky segments similar to Kabutops' back. Its head segment is also similar in shape to Kabutops' own.

(http://imghost.me/images/Z4cqp.jpg)

Kabutops' typing takes away his Water weakness, but makes him 4x weak to Grass. It does still have five resistances to his four weaknesses, though. It has high Attack and Defense, and Speed that is average, but can be doubled under rain conditions if it has the Swift Swim ability. This makes it very difficult to revenge kill.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly, Adamant, or Impish

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/kabutops):
Waterfall
Stone Edge
Swords Dance
Aqua Tail
Aqua Jet
Superpower
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/2/29/141Kabutops.png/180px-141Kabutops.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 20, 2012, 06:40:58 PM
#8: Cubone
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/104.gif)          (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/104.gif)
GROUND
Points: 50; Lists: 4; Highest: pegaso220380 (#2)

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs36/f/2008/264/e/4/Cubone___Trade_by_EarthKnight.png)
by EarthKnight via deviantArt

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/091/5/d/Craft_Cubone_by_raizy.png)
by raizy via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Cubone is notable for several reasons. It is one of very few pokémon to weild a weapon—a bone that it hurls at foes like a boomerang—which makes up for its miniscule size (a little over a foot in height). It wears the skull of its deceased mother like a mask, which later fuses with its head upon evolution, becoming a part of it. From the Pokémon Emerald Pokédex description of Marowak:

Quote from: Emerald Pokédex entry
A Marowak is the evolved form of a Cubone that has grown tough by overcoming the grief of losing its mother. Its tempered and hardened spirit is not easily broken.

It is also theorised that Cubone was originally supposed to evolve into Kangaskahn, given the similarity in appearance of a Cubone, sans-skull, to the child pokémon carried in Kangaskahn's pouch, and the adult Kangaskahn's skull, which is close to that worn by Cubone. I would like to think that maybe the loss of its mother starts a child Kangaskahn on a different evolutionary path, leading to an entirely different adult form. There's no way to put that story into the game mechanics, though. And hatching a baby Kangaskahn, then killing its mother to make it a Cubone would be ridiculously cruel, so maybe it's for the best.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

In-game, Cubone is a decent fighter. From Gen 2 on, a Cubone or Marowak could hold its bone as an item called Thick Club (much like Farfetch'd's Stick). Thick Club doubles their attack stat, giving even an unevolved Cubone fearsome strength—up to over 400 at lvl100. It's defense is also quite high. If it has the ability Rock Head, recoil damage is negated, allowing it to use super powerful moves like Double-Edge without consequence. Alternatively, if it has Lightningrod, he becomes useful as a support for water pokémon in double battles, as he draws all electric attacks to himself.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant or Brave

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/cubone):
Earthquake
Double-Edge
Fire Punch
Substitute
Ice Beam
Swords Dance
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/2a/104Cubone.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 20, 2012, 06:57:23 PM
It only just now occurred to me, Parsas (which I had at #1) is short for Paralysis.

Also, why is there no #13? Don't tell me you're superstitious....

It's "Paras," actually, which is more likely a shortening of "parasite."

There's no 13 because I'm using standard competition ranking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranking#Standard_competition_ranking_.28.221224.22_ranking.29). So the second #12 superseded #13. That's why there's still 50 total, despite the ties. ...Well, actually since there were a bunch tied for 49, it's something like 53 I think.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Thrifty on March 20, 2012, 08:14:12 PM
So if Cubone wears its dead mother's skull as a mask, what does a Cubone with a living mother look like?  Or does every female Cubone die in childbirth?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 20, 2012, 08:31:16 PM
Behold!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic181.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 20, 2012, 08:40:13 PM
So if Cubone wears its dead mother's skull as a mask, what does a Cubone with a living mother look like?  Or does every female Cubone die in childbirth?

A Cubone without a dead mother looks like a baby Kangaskhan, like those in their pouches. Well, according to this theory. Bill's idea about baby Kangaskhans becoming Cubones IF their mother dies is pretty cool, though.

EDIT: Also, since Kabutops showed up:
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4126/5040077088_8c2fba280f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37834339@N02/5040077088/)
Kabutops (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37834339@N02/5040077088/) by invader_quirk (http://www.flickr.com/people/37834339@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: CJones on March 20, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
It only just now occurred to me, Parsas (which I had at #1) is short for Paralysis.

Also, why is there no #13? Don't tell me you're superstitious....
It's "Paras," actually, which is more likely a shortening of "parasite."

Damnit, I screwed that up. Parasite does make more sense.

Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 20, 2012, 09:08:56 PM
#7: Rayquaza
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/384.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/384.gif)
DRAGON / FLYING
Points: 50; Lists: 3; Highest: Invader Quirk (#5)

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/288/6/7/pokemon__rayquaza_by_mark331-d2x50dz.jpg)
by mark331 via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Rayquaza is a lenendary member of the Weather trio, which also contains Groudon and Kyogre. They are essentially gods of air, land, and sea, respectively. Rayquaza is the leader of the group, and serves as a mediator between the other two when they are in conflict. It is said to have lived for hundreds of millions of years in the earth's ozone layer.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/39/Weather_trio.png)

Rayquaza is a Gen 3 pokémon, and can be found at the top of Sky Pillar in Ruby, Saphire, and Emerald. It is extremely powerful, with the same stat total as Mewtwo, Ho-Oh, etc. It is a deadly sweeper and wallbreaker, though its speed is relatively low (for a legendary).
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly, Hasty, Adamant, Naïve, or Mild

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/rayquaza):
Dragon Dance
Swords Dance
Extreme Speed
Outrage
Draco Meteor
Overheat
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Waterfall
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e4/384Rayquaza.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 20, 2012, 09:19:32 PM
#6: Donphan
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/232.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/232.gif)
GROUND
Points: 52; Lists: 3; Highest: Invader Quirk (#4)

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110530002952/pokemon/images/thumb/8/80/Jimmy_Donphan.png/640px-Jimmy_Donphan.png)

                                                                                                                                                                            Donphan is a second-stage evolution of Phanpy. It is most known for it's ability to curl up and roll around on the tire-like hide on its back and trunk, as seen in Pokémon: The First Movie. Donphan are herd pokémon, led by a single alpha male. They are temperamental, and will go on a rolling rampage if angered. Donphan also roll to compete for mates.

Donphan first appeared in Gen 2, in which they can be caught in the wild, though only in Silver. Later, when these games were re-released as Heart Gold and Soul Silver, Donphan was switched over to be Gold-exclusive. Donphan has a base stat total of 500—putting it in the upper tier of non-legendary pokémon—much of which is focused on Attack and Defense. In competitive play, Donphan is useful as a trap remover, using Rapid Spin to get rid of things like Spikes or Stealth Rock, which damage pokémon switching into the battle, as well as moves like Bind and even Leech Seed. Unlike some other Rapid Spin users, like Hitmontop, Donphan can also deal out heavy hits and take them too. His lack of recovery moves makes him somewhat less viable as a tank, however.
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/donphan):
Earthquake
Assurance
Rapid Spin
Ice Shard
Stone Edge
Stealth Rock
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/53/232Donphan.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 20, 2012, 09:34:33 PM
Bonus: Magikarp
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/129.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/129.gif)
WATER
Points: 21; Lists: 4; Highest: Relaxing Dragon (#15)

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs29/f/2008/130/4/3/magikarp_by_SailorClef.jpg)
by SailorClef via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Magikarp was on the most lists without making the cut, so it gets a bonus entry.

Magikarp is the most worthless pokémon in the game, knowing only Splash by default—a literally pointless move: "The user just flops and splashes around to no effect at all..." But this only serves to make its transformation that much more dramatic when it goes from pathetic to badass.


Spoiler (click to show/hide)
                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Adamant or Jolly

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/magikarp):
Splash
Tackle
Flail
Bounce
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/02/129Magikarp.png/170px-129Magikarp.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 20, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
Thank goodness there was finally reason to post that Manly Guys strip.

(http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/magikarp-swear.gif)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 20, 2012, 10:28:43 PM
so can magikarp learn tackle?  I always figured it couldnt learn anything not that i ever tried. 
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 20, 2012, 10:33:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pgdRH.gif)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 21, 2012, 01:52:59 AM
Incidentally, Am I the only one who heard, "Eat Pokemon to understand the power that's inside?" I knew it couldn't be right (And now I finally see the lyrics and know it's not) but that's what I always heard.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 21, 2012, 08:06:51 AM
Incidentally, Am I the only one who heard, "Eat Pokemon to understand the power that's inside?" I knew it couldn't be right (And now I finally see the lyrics and know it's not) but that's what I always heard.

Those lyrics are wrong too. It's TEACH Pokemon to understand the power that's inside.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 08:38:22 AM
so can magikarp learn tackle?  I always figured it couldnt learn anything not that i ever tried. 

It learns Tackle and Flail by leveling up. But its attack is so pathetic that there's practically no point.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Johnny Unusual on March 21, 2012, 08:46:36 AM
Incidentally, Am I the only one who heard, "Eat Pokemon to understand the power that's inside?" I knew it couldn't be right (And now I finally see the lyrics and know it's not) but that's what I always heard.

It does raise the question of what people in Pokemon Land eat, considering that they are essentially the only animals around.  Are everyone vegetarians?  And if so, can they eat plant pokemon?

As a side note, if you had to eat a Pokemon, which one would you eat.  Me, I choose you, Magikarp.

BTW, I sent a 2 entry list and both have shown up in some capacity.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 21, 2012, 09:01:13 AM
They eat nothing but Jelly Donuts, of course!


http://www.youtube.com/v/X9Srh6pyyFs
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 21, 2012, 09:42:22 AM

It does raise the question of what people in Pokemon Land eat, considering that they are essentially the only animals around.  Are everyone vegetarians?  And if so, can they eat plant pokemon?

As a side note, if you had to eat a Pokemon, which one would you eat.  Me, I choose you, Magikarp.


Crappy misspelled caption, but it answers the question.
(http://chzpokememes.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/pokmon-as-long-as-it-tastes-fine.jpg)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 21, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
I dunno which Pokemon I'd eat. If I was a bum on the streets, I'd probably sustain myself with Rattatas. In my current standard of living, I'd probably be eating... Tauros. The manliest bull.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 21, 2012, 11:13:11 AM
http://ds.ign.com/articles/119/1197905p1.html
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 11:24:47 AM
Abomasnowcones?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 21, 2012, 11:29:50 AM
so can magikarp learn tackle?  I always figured it couldnt learn anything not that i ever tried. 

It learns Tackle and Flail by leveling up. But its attack is so pathetic that there's practically no point.

Somehow I Don't remember that.  It would be fun to not let it evolve and keep training it until it was a fighting stud just to confuse people.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 21, 2012, 11:34:36 AM
There's something about going for Vanilite/Abomisnow that seems less cruel until you realize that he's a pokemon you probably wouldn't kill first. He'd just be screaming while you slowly licked him away to nothing.

Miltanks are farm-raised. I'll go for a Miltank burger with a milkshake on the side!
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
so can magikarp learn tackle?  I always figured it couldnt learn anything not that i ever tried. 

It learns Tackle and Flail by leveling up. But its attack is so pathetic that there's practically no point.

Somehow I Don't remember that.  It would be fun to not let it evolve and keep training it until it was a fighting stud just to confuse people.

Actually it just learned Tackle in Red and Blue, then Flail in later games. Just to be pedantic.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 11:36:12 AM
There's something about going for Vanilite/Abomisnow that seems less cruel until you realize that he's a pokemon you probably wouldn't kill first. He'd just be screaming while you slowly licked him away to nothing.

This needs to be an animation.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 11:55:35 AM
#5: Pikachu
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/025.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/025.gif)
ELECTRIC
Points: 53; Lists: 4; Highest: Smith Dr John Smith's brother (#7)

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/265/4/c/pika_ball_by_beyx-d4alfsn.png)
by beyx via deviantArt

(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/017/0/8/pikachu_by_moni158-d37e05d.png)
by moni158 via deviantArt

(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/147/2/f/hoverchu_by_beyx-d3hbx2z.png)
by beyx via deviantArt

                                                                                                                                                                            Pikachu is an electric mouse pokémon that stores static charge in the red pouches on its cheeks. If its charge builds up too much, it will need to discharge through its tail in order to avert potential injury. Pikachu live in groups in the wild, and while not territorial, they can collectively conjure thunderstorms if threatened.

Pikachu is the masthead of the Pokémon franchise and easily the most recognized. It is the sidekick of Ash Ketchum in the anime, and for some reason the repeated target for capture of the bumbling Team Rocket. Ash's pikachu seems to be unusually intelligent for its species, and also more powerful. It is not invincible, however, and is often defeated throughout the show. Ash's pikachu is also resistant to the idea of evolving, choosing to stay in its adolescent form, much like its seemingly immortal owner.

Pikachu can be found very rarely in Viridian Forest, just outside Viridian City at the begining of Red and Blue. It can be extremely frustrating to try to go for one, battling or just running from endless swarms of bugs, and then you better damn well catch it once you encounter one. If you're doing Effort Value training off the bat, though, that kind of eases the pain. [Weedles give Speed, Caterpies give HP, and Metapods and Kakunas give 2 Defense EVs each. Since the ideal goal is to rack up 252 EVs in each of two stats, grinding is more bearable (for me, anyway) and when that Pikachu finally shows up, it's icing on the cake.]*

(If you want, I can do a post about Effort Values, Individual/Determinant Values, Natures, and the finer points of training. It's kind of complicated, but the rewards are great.)

Anyway, once you have a Pikachu, you have a fast little glass cannon that you can use to blast Pidgey to ashes and fry Misty's team. From Gen 2 on, wild Pikachu have a small chance to hold a Light Ball, an item that doubles its Special Attack (and Attack too, from Gen 4 on). This makes it more powerful than a Raichu (without an item), but it can only be used by Pikachu. Raichu also doesn't learn any moves by itself, so there's another reason to wait befroe you give Pikachu a thunderstone.

*[EDIT] After further research, it looks like this understanding of Effort Values only applies to games from Gen 3, onward. Battling tons of weak pokémon early is still useful though.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/pikachu):
Thunderbolt
Substitute
Encore
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot
Focus Punch
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/0d/025Pikachu.png/190px-025Pikachu.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 21, 2012, 12:00:46 PM
I was wondering when/if the Pokemon Poster-Boy was going to show up. Normally on these lists, it's pretty easy to call the top 5 based on the rest of the list. I have no idea what to expect from here...
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 21, 2012, 12:00:55 PM
(http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/080324.jpg)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 21, 2012, 12:02:04 PM
NONONONONONONO.

The forest is between Viridian and Pewter, BOTH of which are north of Palette Town. FOOL.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 21, 2012, 12:25:33 PM
NONONONONONONO.

The forest is between Viridian and Pewter, BOTH of which are north of Palette Town. FOOL.

NONONONONONONO.

The forest is between Viridian and Pewter, both of which are north of PALLET Town. FOOL!
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 21, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
NONONONONONONO.

The forest is between Viridian and Pewter, BOTH of which are north of Palette Town. FOOL.

NONONONONONONO.

The forest is between Viridian and Pewter, both of which are north of PALLET Town. FOOL!


NONONONONONONO.

The three piece meal comes with TWO sides! FOOL.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 12:46:48 PM
I don't know what to believe anymore.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Thrifty on March 21, 2012, 01:05:30 PM
I'll always remember the "Tobybro" from generation 1 Pokemon.  It was the only Pokemon that could really stand up to Mewtwo.  It was a Slowbro.  It has Surf, Amnesia, Thunder Wave, and Rest.  The Psychic sub type and Slowbro's high Special would keep Mewtwo from pummeling it.  Thunder Wave to slow down Mewtwo and hopefully cost him some turns.  Surf to pummel Mewtwo once you got in some good Amnesias, and Rest to recover what damage he did do.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 01:34:16 PM
#4: Scyther
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/123.gif)           (http://sprites.pokecheck.org/b/123.gif)
BUG / FLYING
Points: 55; Lists: 3; Highest: Asbestos Bill (#1)

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by Paleona via deviantArt

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                                                                                                                                                                            Scyther is based on the praying mantis, though the scythes themselves are less like the mantis' arms than the scythes of Kabutops. Scyther has the large abdomen and wings, though. Scyther's claim to fame, aside from his cutlery, is its extreme speed. It is known to hide in long grass and hunt with its nija-like agility. It's signature moves are Slash and Double Team.

Scyther was a Red exclusive, found rarely in the Safari Zone. Alternatively, it could be purchased from the Game Corner. In Gen 2, you could evolve Scyther into Scizor by trading it while holding a Metal Coat. Though its stat total did not increase (speed dropped, Attack and Defense increased), it went from Bug/Flying to Bug/Steel, a far superior combo. But scizor isn't nearly as cool. And despite Scyther's many weaknesses, he's still a force to be reckoned with. With Swords Dance, Schyther can cut foes down, then Baton Pass when the going gets tough. With the ability Technician, consider weaker moves like Aerial Ace, Wing Attack, and even Cut, as Technician doubles the power of moves with power 60 or less.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Jolly

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/scyther):
Swords Dance
Aerial Ace
Bug Bite
Brick Break
U-Turn
Quick Attack
Baton Pass
Roost
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 21, 2012, 01:57:20 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Look back to this, bros.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 02:22:30 PM
#3: Alakazam
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PSYCHIC
Points: 71; Lists: 3; Highest: Coragale (#1)

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                                                                                                                                                                            Alakazam is a moustachioed psychic pokémon. Even the females have moustaches, but they are smaller. It has an extremely high mental capacity, giving it an IQ of 5000. Its brain cells are constantly multiplying, until it has to use telekinesis to help its neck support the weight of its head, and it never forgets anything—according to the description in Pokémon Yellow—ever. Despite this, it is only capable of knowing four moves at a time.

Aalakazam is a powerhouse special attacker with very high speed to boot. Max Special Attack on an Alakazam reaches over 400 with a helping nature. Its downfall is low HP and Defense. Gen 5 brought two new boons to Alakazam's effectiveness. First is the move Psyshock, which uses the user's Special Attack, but the receiver's regular Defense stat. This is useful for clearing out special walls and pokémon like Blissey. The second is the hidden ability Magic Sheild, which negates indirect damage. That includes poison and self-inflicted damage.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/alakazam):
Psychic
Substitute
Psyshock
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
Calm Mind
Signal Beam
Grass Knot
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 03:07:19 PM
Top two will be posted after we get done working with Ryan, so, about 7 MST
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Thrifty on March 21, 2012, 04:48:01 PM
Scyther was awesome in Pokemon Stadium GS in that one arena where you could only use level 5 Pokemon that were not at their highest evolution.  Chansey too.  I think it was called the Little Cup.  I used Elekid, Squirtle, Cubone, Scyther, Chansey, and Houndour.  Made liberal use of breeding to and TMs and HMs to get good moves.  You can see them here (http://"http://mstabosz.com/teams.html") if you check Team Iota.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 06:45:13 PM
#2: Haunter
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GHOST / POISON
Points: 72; Lists: 4; Highest: Relaxing Dragon (#2)

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                                                                                                                                                                            Haunter is the evolutionary stage immediately previous to Gengar, who graced this list at #33. Like Gengar, Haunter likes playing tricks on people and despite seeming evil, is often just playful. Since it gains a pair of floating hands once it evolves from Ghastly, it is able to learn physical attacks like Poison Jab. Haunter inhabit graveyards, abandonded mansions, and sometimes caves. Its lick steals life energy.

Haunter is a first Gen pokémon found in Pokémon Tower in Red and Blue. It has a high Special Attack and above average speed, but its HP and defenses are terrible. This is somewhat counterballanced by having three immunities and three resistances, two of which are double, but it is still fragile. A wider moovepool and secondary STAB options sets it apart from other Ghosts like Mismagius, letting it stay a viable option even among current generation pokémon.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/haunter):
Substitute
Shadow Ball
Disable
Sludge Bomb
Pain Split
Hypnosis
Thunderbolt
Explosion
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Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 07:26:30 PM
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#1: Mewtwo
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PSYCHIC
Points: 74; Lists: 6; Highest: Invader Quirk (#1)

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                                                                                                                                                                            Mewtwo was genetically engineered from Mew's DNA in an effort to create the ultimate pokémon. When it awoke, it destroyed the lab and left to hide in a cave. In the anime, it is implied that Mewtwo worked for Giovanni for a time. In Pokémon: The First Movie, Mewtwo creates his own army of superclones, inviting the best trainers in the world, plus Ash, to Mewtwo's lair to steal their pokémon. He planned to take over the world, erradicating the human race.

Mewtwo is in the base 680 stat range, with only Arceus being more powerful. He is found at the end of Cerulean Cave after the Elite Four are beaten. Mewtwo is the pokémon the Masterball was clearly designed for, because if you waste it on something else, you'll have a hell of a time trying to capture him—both because his catch rate is so low, and because he is quite powerful. With godly stats and a diverse moovepool, Mewtwo is good at just about everything.

                                                                                                                                                                           


Ideal nature: Timid

Recommended moves (http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/mewtwo):
Calm Mind
Aura Sphere
Thunder
Shadow Ball
Substitute
Recover
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Selfdestruct
Taunt
Reflect
Light Screen
Trick
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/78/150Mewtwo.png/230px-150Mewtwo.png)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 21, 2012, 07:37:53 PM
Awesome list! Great work Bill!

Mewtwo, of course! I'm kind of surprised Haunter beat Gengar. I figure a Pokemon with feet is better than a Pokemon with no feet.

Here's my personal list:

1. Jigglypuff
2. Loudred
3. Marill
4. Spoink
5. Porygon
6. Togepi
7. Tepig
8. Honchkrow
9. Exeggcute
10. Vulpix
11. Aipom
12. Phanpy
13. Wigglytuff
14. Donphan
15. Shinx
16. Emboar
17. Igglybuff
18. Natu
19. Murkrow
20. Rotom
21. Scizor
22. Exploud
23. Polywrath
24. Probopass
25. Golurk

And since I had so much fun talking about Pokemon here, I've opened an official thread here: http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=24141.0
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Johnny Unusual on March 21, 2012, 08:01:25 PM
My, if you can call it that, list:

1. Magikarp
2. Hitmonlee
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 21, 2012, 08:19:10 PM
had to be.  glad to see haunter didn't think he would make it after seeing gengar.  i guess others never got around to evolving him like me.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 21, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
I just think Haunter is way cooler than Gengar.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 21, 2012, 09:05:34 PM
1. Alakazam
2. Gardevoir
3. Aggron
4. Hypno
5. Blaziken
6. Slowpoke
7. Hitmonlee
8. Pichu
9. Tauros
10. Mudkip
11. Seaking
12. Ninetales
13. Torkoal
14. Gengar
15. Empoleon
16. Honchkrow
17. Lucario
18. Glaceon
19. Leafeon
20. Dragonair
21. Staraptor
22. Medicham
23. Sableye
24. Jolteon
25. Altaria

This, my friends, is what a TRUE MAN'S list looks like. LOOK AND BE AMAZED!
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: MightyJack on March 21, 2012, 09:37:40 PM
Nice work, it was a great looking piece and fun to read even if I didn't know enough to participate.

I didn't see Snorlax, that's the only other one I know well. Way back when my wee nephew was into this thing, he gave me a small stuffed Snorlax for Christmas, because, like me, it was fat and liked to sleep.   ;D (yeah baby, that's my kind of hero)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: gojikranz on March 21, 2012, 09:38:39 PM
ya surprised no snorlax.

or gyarados!?
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Pak-Man on March 21, 2012, 09:43:04 PM
I was about to say I think there should be more love for Spoink and Tepig, then I realized those are both Pig Pokemon. I never realized it, but I seem to like the combo of Pig and Pokemon. (Porkemon?)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 21, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
ya surprised no snorlax.

or gyarados!?

That is pretty odd.


My list:
Mewtwo (The guy is just awesome. Awesome appearance, awesome backstory, awesome power, and yes, AWESOME MOVIE)
Alakazam
Parasect (The truth behind it is just so deliciously cruel)
Donphan (I was in love with this guy from the moment he rolled up and started tearing around in the first movie)
Kabutops
Cofagrigus (Easily the coolest pokemon from gen 5. LOVE this guy)
Scyther
Steelix
Shedinja (An incredibly clever concept for a pokemon)
Golduck
Haunter
Noctowl
Rayquaza
Tentacruel
Hypno
Sableye (Ridiculously good types)
Mew
Gengar
Mawhile (I didn't used to like it, but learning about the legend behind it made it suddenly one of my favorites)
Gyarados
Hitmonlee
Murkrow
Aradactyl
Dodrio
Cubone
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 09:58:59 PM
1. Scyther
2. Farfetch'd
3. Lucario
4. Steelix
5. Empoleon
6. Parasect
7. Blastoise
8. Donphan
9. Haunter
10. Chansey
11. Kabutops
12. Rayquaza
13. Shedinja
14. Abra
15. Muk
16.Tentacruel
17. Gengar
18. Sudowoodo
19. Bastiodon
20. Sableye
21. Growlithe
22. Mewtwo
23. Dragonaire
24. Torterra
25. Bonsly


Yeah, Snorlax is pretty awesome, but he got bumped from my list. It's too bad Torterra didn't make it (wasn't even close), because I had an awesome pic for him:

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/141/7/0/Pokemon___Torterra_by_TheStink411.jpg) (http://thestink411.deviantart.com/art/Pokemon-Torterra-123238553)

Now no one will ever see it...


Also, I was disappointed by the lack of cool pictures of some of the pokémon at the top. Farfetch'd I can see, but there should have been more for Kabutops and Scyther (eh, Quirk?  :angry:). It was my intention to have more and larger pictures as the list went on so it was epic by the end, which mostly worked, but...yeah.

Anyway, I enjoyed doing this and I'm glad you guys enjoyed reading it.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 21, 2012, 10:09:33 PM
Also, I was disappointed by the lack of cool pictures of some of the pokémon at the top. Farfetch'd I can see, but there should have been more for Kabutops and Scyther (eh, Quirk?  :angry:).

Yeah, I began work on an epic Scyther painting a couple years ago and never finished. I have great shame.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Asbestos Bill on March 21, 2012, 10:12:43 PM
And just to make Johnny Unusual's job easier, here's the whole list:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: CJones on March 22, 2012, 01:05:41 AM
Well here's mine, just in case anybody cares. I've never played a single Pokemon game in my life. Interesting write ups though...

Paras. For nostalgia's sake. My cousin, who was 12 at the time, gave me a bunch of Pokemon trading cards as a Christmas gift (he had a whole book of them and could rercite stats and abilites from memory). He starts college this year. This was the only one I could find.
Raichu. One of his cards I saw, and remember because I happen to know "Rai" means lightning in Japanese.
Mew-Two. You know, from that movie.
Jiggly-Puff. Thanks to Super Smash Bros Melee (which I only ever played at that same cousin's house)
Wooper. That write up of On the Origin of the Species was quite interesting.
Metapod. Simply because of the whole penis/harden thing.
Pikachu. For obvious reasons.
Mawile
Castform
Charizzard
Squirtle

Meowth
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on March 22, 2012, 09:30:53 AM
Mmm, now that's a good set to end on. The best Ghost Pokemon and the original, true legendary powerhouse.

Haunter actually come very close to being my number 1. I just think there's something really wicked about his general apperance and style, something that I just can't get enough of. I'll let this picture I commissioned a while back sum him up:
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/RelaxingDragon1/1246231759gasmask_haunterfalighter.jpg) (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2449665/)


1. Bulbasaur
2. Haunter
3. Venusaur
4. Pidgeot

5. Dragonite
6. Mew
7. Squirtle
8. Butterfree

9. Magneton
10. Blastoise
11. Exeggcute
12. Kabutops
13. Ditto

14. Lapras
15. Magikarp
16. Meganium
17. Mewtwo
18. Articuno
19. Steelix

20. Lugia
21. Noctowl
22. Xatu
23. Piplup
24. Luxio
25. Mudkip

Rather surprised at the lack of Dragonite and Lapras, those should have been core members of upper-tier teams by the end of your playthroughs. And Magneton is more a personal choice, since I started to really rely on that guy after a while (keep him away from water and ground and he will serve you well). And at least Piplup's later evolutionary forms made it.
Title: Re: LOC 57: Top 50 Pokemon {Now counting down!}
Post by: Coragale on March 22, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
I actually can't think of any dragons I really used, ever. I suppose Altaria, but I think that's it. It's a shame, because I REALLY like Dragonair. Not Dragonite so much, but Dragonair was the original beauty queen Pokemon.