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Title: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on January 06, 2012, 09:49:37 AM
Since the other film score thread seems to have disappeared, I thought it would be opportune to start a new one.  So feel free to discuss all things film score related here.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on January 09, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
So apparently Sony Classical is going to reissue the soundtrack to Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace in time for the 3D rerelease of the film.  But instead of a special edition soundtrack featuring every note of music recorded for the film, like some might hope, or even a rerelease of the sloppy and somewhat insulting "Ultimate Edition" (which contained the film edit), it's just going to be a rerelease of the original 74-minute soundtrack with slightly different packaging. 

If I was going to complain about George Lucas, I would complain about the fact that he spends so much money on things no one cares about like whether or not the Ewoks blink, but puts forth no effort to releasing full versions of prequel soundtracks. 
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on January 09, 2012, 07:31:38 PM
Thomas Newman is scoring the next Bond film.... http://www.007.com/newman-on-board-for-skyfall/ (http://www.007.com/newman-on-board-for-skyfall/)

Fuck you, Sam Mendes.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on January 10, 2012, 11:08:22 AM
Weird, I dunno what happened to that other thread.

Re: Episode I soundtrack...I only ever listen do the shortened version. The "ultimate edition" does nothing for me.

I made my own edit taken from the 74 minute soundtrack, the Ultimate Edition, and various episode 1 video games.  I tried to present the music in the same order as it would have appeared in the movie had all of it been used.  I used the special edition soundtracks of the original trilogy as my inspiration, so instead of presenting each cue individually, several cues are grouped into single tracks, and the second disc begins with the concert versions of Duel Of The Fates and Anakin's Theme.  It's not perfect, and the sound quality on quite a few tracks leaves a lot to be desired, but at least I can hear almost the entire score mostly as it was intended to have been presented, if not at the quality it was intended to be presented. 
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on January 10, 2012, 12:12:18 PM
Weird, I dunno what happened to that other thread.

Re: Episode I soundtrack...I only ever listen do the shortened version. The "ultimate edition" does nothing for me.

I made my own edit taken from the 74 minute soundtrack, the Ultimate Edition, and various episode 1 video games.  I tried to present the music in the same order as it would have appeared in the movie had all of it been used.  I used the special edition soundtracks of the original trilogy as my inspiration, so instead of presenting each cue individually, several cues are grouped into single tracks, and the second disc begins with the concert versions of Duel Of The Fates and Anakin's Theme.  It's not perfect, and the sound quality on quite a few tracks leaves a lot to be desired, but at least I can hear almost the entire score mostly as it was intended to have been presented, if not at the quality it was intended to be presented. 

I really don't like the "here's the music as it appeared on the movie" approach. I always, always prefer suites arranged by the composer.  If I want to hear the music as used in the movie I watch the movie.  This is why I never bother with isolated score tracks either (especially since there's often minutes of silence).  I mean, I guess from some kind of weird completist standpoint it's nice to have it all, but I'd still rather have it make sense musically than have to match something I'm not even watching.

The problem with that is I don't think the composer is always the best judge of what's the best music from the movie.  And if it's a score that's consistantly good both as music and as film music, then there's no reason to leave stuff out.  Take Star Trek V.  What got released on the original soundtrack album was good, no question, but it was a great score throughout, yet until recently there was only, like 40 minutes of it available in any official release. 
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: shodan on January 10, 2012, 12:26:18 PM
Thomas Newman is scoring the next Bond film.... http://www.007.com/newman-on-board-for-skyfall/ (http://www.007.com/newman-on-board-for-skyfall/)

Fuck you, Sam Mendes.
he does a lot of good music. road to perdition, series of unfortunate events,wall-e, green mile,  the good german. at least they didnt get randy newman.

" you've got a bullet in me....."
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on January 10, 2012, 12:44:04 PM
Have you heard the full score? Do you feel that the additions are more worthwhile musically?  I'm kind of an orchestral purist and I don't love electronic stuff (which is why a lot of what Goldsmith does irritates me--I love his "Explorers" themes, but when they get all electronic wurblewarbles I lose interest, so I have about 3 tracks from his whole album), and I feel like a lot of what was left off was this kind of bizarre weird moog synth shit.

Meh.  I don't mind that kind of electronic music so much.  At least Goldsmith only used the synthesizer for sounds he couldn't get from the orchestra.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on January 12, 2012, 08:05:42 PM
For anyone who missed it in the previous thread, Ludovic Bource's score for The Artist is amazing, no matter what the fuck Kim Novak says about it.

http://www.youtube.com/v/pKt9aalmIJo

http://www.youtube.com/v/diOeXCX8sS8
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on February 18, 2012, 08:51:04 PM
Andrew Lockington returns big time for Journey 2: The Mysterious Island. A perfect addition to his previous Journey to the Center of the Earth 3D score:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Ub7Hos91E_s

http://www.youtube.com/v/LOOzG2jvcyA
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on March 08, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
John Carter.

Holy shit, this score is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/v/dgOZYv8kmSs
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on March 13, 2012, 09:40:28 AM
If this was missed in the last thread, got two excellent slightly older scores for y'all - both by Debbie Wiseman.

First off, we have Arsene Lupin. It's to a French film based on the legendary thief character.

http://www.youtube.com/v/288zVmbYYqo

And then we have her more recent score for the movie Lesbian Vampire Killers. It's a parody score, but it's one of those serious parody scores - and DAMN. Massively gothic and beautiful - and also features the best cue title ever ("Whores of Fucking Hades, Prepare for Fucking Death!"):

http://www.youtube.com/v/313jG0txxTY
http://www.youtube.com/v/J64T6FnYxlw

How this woman doesn't have a bigger profile in the film scoring world, I'll never know.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Henry88 on March 25, 2012, 06:55:01 PM
Main Title/Return to Earth
http://www.youtube.com/v/I7QXwez1bWA?version=3&hl=en_US

Dragging Barugon Under/Finale
http://www.youtube.com/v/Da6AR_-mzs0?version=3&hl=en_US

cant go wrong with gamera ;D
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: anais.jude on March 27, 2012, 05:21:40 AM
The Star Trek theme they use in the movies is pretty fucking awesome....I say as it plays in the background on the telly.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on March 27, 2012, 03:33:56 PM
Far better Gamera music, for the first film in the much better 90's trilogy - unfortunately, all I can find is a suite. Music by Kō Ōtani, the man who would go on to score the game Shadow of the Colossus.

http://www.youtube.com/v/h7k2J7JS4H4
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on April 02, 2012, 10:54:00 PM
I don't know if this is released yet or still in preorder stage, but HOLY SHIT A PROPER RELEASE OF The Black Cauldron!

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7514/.f
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on April 03, 2012, 06:46:11 AM
It's not a theremin, it's an Ondes Martenot.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on April 03, 2012, 06:59:16 AM
Well, by that same token, you could argue that having music in a movie at all is a cheap copout, because what does film music do but tell the audience what they should be feeling?
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on April 03, 2012, 11:28:38 AM
Actually LaLaland Records did Star Trek V.  And Intrada released 4 and 6. 

I might have to get the First Contact release, though I already have the bootleg version. 
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on April 03, 2012, 06:23:36 PM
I have complete versions of all of Goldsmith's Trek scores, in forms of varying degrees of legality.  V is my favorite of the bunch.  The one I'd be most interested in having a 100% legal version of would be Insurrection, because the bootleg I have doesn't have the film version of the ending music.  Well, it has it, but it was obviously ripped from the DVD audio, because you can hear sound effects and faint echoes of dialogue.  I presume an official release would include a dialogue and sound effects-free version of that.

I'm curious, Imrahil.  Given your apparent disdain for electronic sounds in orchestral scores, how do you feel about the score to Short Circuit?  Sure it has a lot of synthesizer in it, but given the fact that it's a movie about a robot becoming self-aware and developing a respect for living things while fighting for its own survival, don't you think having a synthesizer prominently placed in the score is appropriate?
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: daltysmilth on April 03, 2012, 07:09:29 PM
I'm on my phone so I can't post direct links, but most of the score can be found here:

http://johnny-five.com/music.html (http://johnny-five.com/music.html)
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on April 10, 2012, 07:19:52 AM
Just got the La-La Land newsletter announcing their next releases... I'm so psyched:

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GALAXY QUEST: LIMITED EDITION         LLLCD 1208
Music by David Newman
Limited Edition of 3000 Units

ORDER “GALAXY QUEST: LIMITED EDITION” on April 10th (1pm PST) at www.lalalandrecords.com and get yours autographed by composer David Newman at no additional charge. Autographs are while supplies last and are not guaranteed.

STARTS SHIPPING APRIL 10
RETAIL PRICE $19.98

 La-La Land Records and Paramount Pictures presents the premiere official soundtrack release of the original motion picture score to the 1999 Dreamworks sci-fi action/comedy GALAXY QUEST, starring Tim Allen, Sigourney Weaver, Alan Rickman and Sam Rockwell and directed by Dean Parisot.  Acclaimed composer David Newman (SERENITY, SCOOBY DOO, ICE AGE, THE PHANTOM) pulls off an impressive musical feat, employing a comic touch while skillfully supporting the film’s legitimate, considerable sci-fi action and well-drawn character relationships.  Newman continues in the rich tradition of the Newman family musical legacy, composing a score that employs big choral passages and wondrous melodic themes.  Released previously only as a composer-produced promo CD, this official, longer and remastered edition, produced by Dan Goldwasser and mastered by Doug Schwartz, sounds stellar and features exclusive liner notes by film music writer Tim Greiving.  This is a limited edition of 3000 units.

 TRACK LISTING:

1. Galaxy Quest: The Classic TV Theme (0:57)
 2. TV Clip (1:32)
 3. Pathetic Nesmith (0:57)
 4. Galaxy Quest TV Clip #3/Introducing Sarris/
 Revealing the Universe (1:50)
 5. Transporting the Crew/Meet the Thermians (1:33)
 6. The N.S.E.A. Protector (0:43)
 7. Crew Quarters & The Bridge/The Launch (3:24)
 8. Jason Takes Action/Sarris Tortures Captain (1:41)
 9. Red Thingie, Green Thingie… Run! (3:30)
 10. Shuttle to Planet/Trek Across Planet (4:26)
 11. Rolling the Sphere/Pig Lizard/Rock Monster (6:05)
 12. “Digitize Me Fred” (1:13)
 13. “I’m So Sorry” (1:42)
 14. Fight, Episode 17 (1:15)
 15. The Hallway Sneak/Alex Finds Quellek (2:16)
 16. Angry Sarris/Into the Ducts/Omega 13/Heroic Guy/
 Reveal Chompers/Opening the Airlock (3:31)
 17. Big Kiss/Happy Rock Monster/Dying Thermians/
 Quellek’s Death/Into Reactor Room/Push the Button/
 A Hug Before Dying (4:08)
 18. Sarris Orders Attack/The Battle (3:34)
 19. Mathesar Takes Command/Sarris Kills Everybody (2:18)
 20. Mathesar, Hero/Goodbye My Friends/Crash Landing (1:45)
 21. Goodbye Sarris/Happy Ending (2:04)
 22. The New Galaxy Quest (0:59)

 TOTAL ALBUM TIME: 53:07

RETAIL PRICE: $19.98
 LLLCD 1208

BROKE SKY: LIMITED EDITION           LLLCD 1201
Music by Michael McCuistion, Lolita Ritmanis & Kristopher Carter
Limited Edition of 1000 Units

ORDER “BROKE SKY: LIMITED EDITION” on April 10 (1pm PST) at www.lalalandrecords.com and get yours autographed by composers Michael McCuistion, Lolita Ritmanis & Kristopher Carter at no additional charge. Autographs are while supplies last and are not guaranteed.

STARTS SHIPPING APRIL 10
RETAIL PRICE $15.98

 La-La Land Records presents the original motion picture score to the 2007 independent dramatic-thriller motion picture BROKE SKY, starring Will Wallace, Joe Unger and Bruce Glover, and directed by Thomas L. Callaway.  Composers Michael McCuistion, Lolita Ritmans & Kristopher Carter “Dynamic Music Partners” (BEN 10: ULTIMATE ALIEN, BATMAN: THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD, BATMAN BEYOND, TEEN TITANS, JUSTICE LEAGUE) bring their impressive musical talents to a unique and evocative orchestral score that is full of sonic surprises – much like this acclaimed southern noir, which tells the twist-laden tale of two county road-kill removal workers who are ultimately torn apart by a decades-old secret.  Produced by Michael McCuistion, Lolita Ritmanis & Kristopher Carter and mastered by James Nelson, this release includes exclusive liner note comments from the composers and filmmakers.  This is a limited edition of 1000 units.

 TRACK LISTING:

1. Broke Sky Main Titles* (2:34)
 2. Bucky Sets The Scene** (1:38)
 3. Possum Flop*/Meet the CRT3000*** (0:50)
 4. Bucky Flashback 1***/Delivering Groceries** (0:51)
 5. Comforting Liz*** (0:56)
 6. Tess Departs*/Earl Gets An Idea** (1:11)
 7. Tess Fishing*** (5:36)
 8. Scattering Rosebuds*/Meet Rufus** (2:31)
 9. Chain Gang Bucky*/Bucky Flashback 2*** (1:06)
 10. Late Night Montage** (1:05)
 11. Laundromat Flashback***/
 Bucky Makes Up His Mind** (1:40)
 12. Tess Laid To Rest** (1:46)
 13. Earl Sits With Rufus**/Don’t Go Out There* (0:52)
 14. Dress In The Trunk* (2:09)
 15. Earl Starts Losing It** (1:34)
 16. Bucky Learns The Truth* (3:57)
 17. Earl Goes Off The Deep End** (1:42)
 18. Cut To Slippery, Pt. 1** (1:29)
 19. Cut To Slippery, Pt. 2*** (6:14)
 20. Earl In The Pits** (2:44)
 21. Broke Sky Epilogue* (2:19)

Running Time: 44:44

 * by Michael McCuistion     ** by Lolita Ritmanis     *** by Kristopher Carter

I LOVED the Galaxy Quest score, and this expanded version is totally unexpected. The trio of composers for the second release are the team Shirley Walker gathered to help her with Batman: The Animated Series - the show that started my loved with not only scores, but also animation in general. Along with Shirley Walker, those three composers helped define my love for orchestral music when I was young. I already have the Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo score from the trio that La-La Land released, and it's fantastic. I didn't even know they'd done a movie score. I cannot wait to hear this.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on April 30, 2012, 08:24:16 AM
...Sad news:

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2012/04/30/joel-goldsmith-1957-2012/

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Joel Goldsmith has passed away at age 54. The composer was born on November 19, 1957.

To connect him to our community, the man started out by co-composing Laserblast with Richard Band. And survived that to go on scoring the Stargate TV series and many other projects. Sad to see him gone so young.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on April 30, 2012, 11:25:28 AM
I wish they would release The Muppet movie sound track on CD.  I can only find it used and it goes for an insane amount of money.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on May 16, 2012, 04:13:12 PM
So the Prometheus score got released early on Itunes - and it's actually not bad, especially coming from Marc Streitenfeld. Mostly orchestral tracks that balance some melody and the ambient suspense needed for the type of movie, with the expected string clusters and such for the more outright terrifying moments - plus two "positive" mood cues by Harry Gregson-Williams that complement Streitenfeld's material perfectly.  There's even a direct quote of Goldsmith's Alien music at the start of one track, along with the rest of the score being peppered with more subtle homages to the previous Alien scores.

It's not on the level of the previous Alien scores, and it might be a chore for some to listen to it on album,  but it's far better than I expected it be when I heard Streitenfeld was composing it, and it should suit the movie very well.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Sideswipe on June 11, 2012, 10:30:56 PM
I whole heartedly disagree with you.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Sideswipe on June 11, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
No, I dissagree with your opinion of the scores
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 13, 2012, 08:50:50 AM
A few weeks back, the movie podcast Battleship Pretension did 2 back to back episodes about movie scores.

One was about the career of Carter Burwell, who has done a lot of movies, including many of the Coen's films and the second was about just some scores that they and their guest thought were pretty good.  I highly recommend them.

Here's a taste of what they play:

http://www.youtube.com/v/LpmG6l0Zytc

http://www.youtube.com/v/W2YPsfwSPGg

http://www.youtube.com/v/Tp6ydK--Jko

http://www.youtube.com/v/7iI5urovHYI

http://www.youtube.com/v/vLt98WxrYAw
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Raefire on June 18, 2012, 05:26:54 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Man-Steel-Feature-Music-Hans-Zimmer-31457.html
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on June 20, 2012, 10:13:53 AM
I whole heartedly disagree with you.

I have all three of them on my iPod,I love them.
Title: Re: Dalty's "Where Did The Other Film Score Thread Go?" Film Score Thread
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 22, 2012, 10:33:39 PM
I wish the Blu-Ray for The Sting had an isolated score track.  Doing a quick comparison and I'd say the Blu-Ray sounds better than the CD, but the BD has all that pesky dialog and background sounds.

I'm planning to re-watch John Carter soon, didn't notice the soundtrack much the first time.  Going to watch it in 2D from now on since the 3D wasn't that great, I'll try to pay attention to the score this time.