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Title: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Danecho1967 on December 07, 2011, 11:35:40 AM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Nunyerbiz on December 07, 2011, 11:37:16 AM
Well, we'll get the inevitable Rifftrax treatment out of the deal... so there is at least some silver lining.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: doggans on December 07, 2011, 11:43:20 AM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html

Maybe he'll go away if we all reprot him?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RVR II on December 07, 2011, 12:30:16 PM
Mike Nelson's response..
Quote
My reaction upon hearing that there is definitely going to be a Transformers 4

http://www.youtube.com/v/xECx-42Wlho#t=2s
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: mrbasehart on December 07, 2011, 02:25:22 PM
Ehn.  It keeps Michael Bay away from any other films.  I'd rather have another Transformers film than another one like Pearl Harbour.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Danecho1967 on December 07, 2011, 03:47:10 PM
Ehn.  It keeps Michael Bay away from any other films.  I'd rather have another Transformers film than another one like Pearl Harbour.
Sadly, it appears he will be doing another film before shooting starts on Trannie4.  The closest thing to "good" about any of this is Shia (Where's) LaBeouf has said he won't do any more.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 07, 2011, 05:08:53 PM
Absolutely. This is fantastic news if you ask me. This is what RiffTrax was made for. I can only hope the next installment includes a fresh crop of once-respected actors who have resigned themselves to Michael Bay's Cash for Integrity Exchange.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on December 07, 2011, 05:42:22 PM
just except the  the good news  and pass the popcorn  >:D
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Thrifty on December 07, 2011, 06:35:09 PM
Maybe Congress should just pass a law allowing Michael Bay to print his own currency and he can skip the moviemaking dreck and spare us all a lot of pain.

The sad thing is that, unlike Twilight which is limited by the books Stephanie Meyer wrote, there is no preset limit to the number of Transformers movies to be released.  It could go the way of Jason Voorhies and get up to 11, followed by a reboot.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: bta on December 07, 2011, 06:43:17 PM
They made 3 of those things?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on December 07, 2011, 06:45:10 PM
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there is no preset limit to the number of Transformers movies to be released.  It could go the way of Jason Voorhies and get up to 11, followed by a reboot.

it is wonderful  that there is more giant robot madness  for years to come. :)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 07, 2011, 07:04:08 PM
This needs to stop. I tolerated the first 3 well, but dammit someone else needs to "write" and direct this time. Do NOT bring back Bay. At this point it's like they're just trying to milk the franchise for all it's worth.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 07, 2011, 07:15:44 PM
This needs to stop. I tolerated the first 3 well, but dammit someone else needs to "write" and direct this time. Do NOT bring back Bay. At this point it's like they're just trying to milk the franchise for all it's worth.

As a die-hard RiffTrax fan, I really don't see what the fuck everyone is complaining about. This franchise is a riffing goldmine. This is the Kashagan super-oil field of riffing, capable of sustainable comedy for the next fifty years. And don't tell me about things getting stale. In my opinion, the riffing has only gotten better with each subsequent pile of crap.

The sheep get to pump out their hard-earned cash to eat popcorn and watch giant robot movies, Bay gets to live in a platinum castle and do blow off ten different underwear models every night, and we get guaranteed-gold evisceration courtesy of Team RiffTrax.

It's win-win-win.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: shodan on December 07, 2011, 09:05:11 PM
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon and degrading respectable actors though. im still pissed over Nimoy
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 07, 2011, 09:09:19 PM
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon and degrading respectable actors though. im still pissed over Nimoy

I'm fairly certain the original cartoons remain untouched ,and nobody put a gun to these actor's heads and forced them to be in the movie. They have freewill. Face it, they whored-out for cash. Don't blame the movies, blame the choices the actors made.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 07, 2011, 09:09:48 PM
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon and degrading respectable actors though. im still pissed over Nimoy
They need my permission to make a fourth one. Okay Spielberg, let's get Michael Bay out of the picture for a second(Gets Michael Bay out of the picture), okay now here's a perfectly good director(introduces Christopher Nolan)

Spielberg: Hmmm, I dunno about that, he will no doubt produce a far superior product, and the people will notice and nobody will buy the Transformers movies or rent them again.
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon and degrading respectable actors though. im still pissed over Nimoy
I'm fairly certain the original cartoons remain untouched ,and nobody put a gun to these actor's heads and forced them to be in the movie. They have freewill. Face it, they whored-out for cash. Don't blame the movies, blame the choices the actors made.
Without the voice actors, those movies would have been Transformers in name only.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 07, 2011, 09:16:33 PM
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon and degrading respectable actors though. im still pissed over Nimoy
I'm fairly certain the original cartoons remain untouched ,and nobody put a gun to these actor's heads and forced them to be in the movie. They have freewill. Face it, they whored-out for cash. Don't blame the movies, blame the choices the actors made.
Without the voice actors, those movies would have been Transformers in name only.

Not sure what, if any, of the above points you're addressing here.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: shodan on December 07, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/27/Melbourne_Terminal_Station.JPG/300px-Melbourne_Terminal_Station.JPG)
TRANSFORMERS 4! white hot electrical transference action!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 07, 2011, 09:22:53 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/27/Melbourne_Terminal_Station.JPG/300px-Melbourne_Terminal_Station.JPG)
TRANSFORMERS 4! white hot electrical transference action!

MKB would riff the SHIT outta that facility!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on December 07, 2011, 09:33:39 PM
The only returning voice actor who did the same voice from the cartoon was Peter Cullen, and he HAD TO AUDITION FOR THE ROLE! Are you fucking kidding me with this bulllshit?!

I do agree that the actors themselves should be ashamed that they took these roles. I mean, John Turturo, wasn't the peeing scene in the fucking script?

Really, without Bay (and Spielberg) fucking these movies up, the Transformers concept is not exactly rocket science. Any director worth a damn should be able to cobble together a halfway watchable movie from a concept as easy as this. But no, we still have Spielberg involved, and he's the one who wanted the concentration to be on the "boy getting his first car" bullshit. And Bay, who couldn't put together a cohesive action scene to save his life pile of cocain.

All we really need is a little simpler robot designs (not as blocky as the cartoon, of course), fewer closeups during action scenes, and less involvement with the human characters.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: shodan on December 07, 2011, 09:36:11 PM
Really, without Bay (and Spielberg) fucking these movies up, the Transformers concept is not exactly rocket science
GIANT ROBOTS THAT TURN INTO THINGS!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: doggans on December 08, 2011, 03:53:35 AM
I mean, John Turturo, wasn't the peeing scene in the fucking script?

It's cute the way you think Michael Bay actually follows the script.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on December 08, 2011, 05:56:35 AM
I mean, John Turturo, wasn't the peeing scene in the fucking script?

It's cute the way you think Michael Bay actually follows the script.
:D Good point.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 09:24:17 AM
Not sure what, if any, of the above points you're addressing here.
I'm just saying you're right.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 08, 2011, 09:32:24 AM
Not sure what, if any, of the above points you're addressing here.
I'm just saying you're right.

Oh, okay. I think I was confused because we were talking about all the actors and you singled out the voice actors. No worries.

it's basically Transformers because it's big robots changing into shit, but after that it all goes down the toilet.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RVR II on December 08, 2011, 09:36:15 AM
it's basically Transformers because it's big robots changing into shit, but after that it all goes down the toilet.
It should've just been left alone as an 80s cartoon 8)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 08, 2011, 09:41:39 AM
it's basically Transformers because it's big robots changing into shit, but after that it all goes down the toilet.
It should've just been left alone as an 80s cartoon 8)

Like I said, the 80s cartoon is still there, unmolested, just as you remember it. That's never gonna change. Accept now we have these colossal cinematic embarrassments being served up on a silver platter to RiffTrax on a regular basis. How is that not the best of both worlds?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RVR II on December 08, 2011, 09:47:52 AM
it's basically Transformers because it's big robots changing into shit, but after that it all goes down the toilet.
It should've just been left alone as an 80s cartoon 8)

Like I said, the 80s cartoon is still there, unmolested, just as you remember it. That's never gonna change. Accept now we have these colossal cinematic embarrassments being served up on a silver platter to RiffTrax on a regular basis. How is that not the best of both worlds?
Oh.. I suppose so..
They should just riff the 80s cartoons instead ;D
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Pak-Man on December 08, 2011, 10:33:25 AM
The thing about the original Transforners was that the GOOD Stuff, the stuff fans carry with them today and hold on a pedestal, didn't happen in the TV shows or comics. It happened on our bedroom floors. The way the old stuff succeeded was it didn't give you everything. It gave you just enough to fuel your imagination while you were playing with the toys. That worked fine for what it was, but it gave us all this false memory of how good it was because it was limited only by our imagination. If you ask a Transformers fan what their favorite transformer was and why, odds are the qualities they love about that character (Except for maybe Optimus and Megatron) didn't get shown at all in the cartoon. MAYBE the comic. It's because we all read the tech specs and filled in the gaps.

So you take someone like Michael Bay who is tasked with making it into a movie and all he has to work with is a cartoon in which there are good robots, bad robots, some silly scheme involving crashing the earth into the moon or something, and they fight each other. He sees the same gaps as we did as kids, so he starts filling them in like we did. Only he's an adult, so he fills it up with scantily clad girls and crude humor.

The fans are upset because that never happened in the universe we cooked up (Probably.) Michael Bay's upset because he has no clue where the Transformers we're asking for is, and he's really doing what he can with what he has to work with. You just had to be there.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Danecho1967 on December 08, 2011, 02:07:59 PM
The fans are upset because that never happened in the universe we cooked up (Probably.) Michael Bay's upset because he has no clue where the Transformers we're asking for is, and he's really doing what he can with what he has to work with. You just had to be there.
It almost sounds like we're supposed to feel some pity for Bay, because he's "trying."  Well, screw that.  He can go to hell.  Straight to hell.

 ;)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RVR II on December 08, 2011, 02:11:57 PM
The fans are upset because that never happened in the universe we cooked up (Probably.) Michael Bay's upset because he has no clue where the Transformers we're asking for is, and he's really doing what he can with what he has to work with. You just had to be there.
It almost sounds like we're supposed to feel some pity for Bay, because he's "trying."  Well, screw that.  He can go to hell.  Straight to hell.

 ;)
Me Grimlock say Bay go to Hell! RARGH! :P
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Danecho1967 on December 08, 2011, 02:18:06 PM
The thought of how Bay would portray Grimlock makes me... sad.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RVR II on December 08, 2011, 02:18:53 PM
The thought of how Bay would portray Grimlock makes me... sad.
I have to agree there :-[
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Nunyerbiz on December 08, 2011, 04:21:47 PM
I still haven't seen the 2nd or 3rd Transformers movies... I'm sure I'll rent them or buy them used on eBay at some point for Rifftrax purposes... but it's not something I'm dying to get done. The biggest problem I had with the first movie was the action scenes. It's really the only reason I went to go see the thing in the theater... to see big robots fight... having no real expectations for how they were going to fill the non-CGI scenes. I actually didn't mind the whole Lebouf getting a car angle... seemed as good a reason as any to shoehorn in robots in disguise...considering the absurdity of that subject matter. But the action scenes were just a confused, shaky cam mess... concentrating on puny humans running around beneath the carnage... and nobody paid to see puny humans.

As far as the whole childhood memory thing... I had some Transformers as a kid... but they were always second banana toys. I grew up squarely in the lower middle class, and the Transformers toys were relatively expensive. It was always a bigger bang for your xmas/birthday buck to ask for GI Joe or Star Wars or whatever else that was based around $3 action figures... or Legos... which never cease to kick ass. So I guess I never got too drawn into the whole backstory... I'm sure I saw every episode of the original cartoon series multiple times... But couldn't tell you much beyond the fact that Starscream and Cobra Commander had the same voice.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 06:42:51 PM
Let's stop for a second and let's say that in a best case scenario somebody who cares about Transformers writes the next movie. I think I might be bothered to play with the mythology a little bit. I think it would be important to establish that the Decepticons are truly justified in their hunting down the Autobots all over the galaxy. I would like to explore the reasons why the Autobots are both pacifistic and ignorant on some level(again, NOTHING like the other 3 films).
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Pak-Man on December 08, 2011, 06:50:58 PM
The fans are upset because that never happened in the universe we cooked up (Probably.) Michael Bay's upset because he has no clue where the Transformers we're asking for is, and he's really doing what he can with what he has to work with. You just had to be there.
It almost sounds like we're supposed to feel some pity for Bay, because he's "trying."  Well, screw that.  He can go to hell.  Straight to hell.

 ;)

Not trying to defend him as much as explain him.

And when people who DID care about Transformers write Transformers, you get Transformers: Prime (Which rocks, BTW).
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 06:58:34 PM
And when people who DID care about Transformers write Transformers, you get Transformers: Prime (Which rocks, BTW).
No relation to Metroid Prime?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: shodan on December 08, 2011, 07:02:56 PM
And when people who DID care about Transformers write Transformers, you get Transformers: Prime (Which rocks, BTW).
No relation to Metroid Prime?
Samus Aran DOES share a lot of characteristics with transformers.... she can change into various things using her suit.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: doggans on December 08, 2011, 07:13:44 PM
Samus Aran DOES share a lot of characteristics with transformers.... she can change into various things using her suit.

*starts stopwatch until someone says "I'd rather see her change OUT of her suit."*
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Samus Aran DOES share a lot of characteristics with transformers.... she can change into various things using her suit.

*starts stopwatch until someone says "I'd rather see her change OUT of her suit."*
I'd rather see her change OUT of her suit. Dammit when are we going to see Samus in a V shaped one piece swimsuit...again?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: shodan on December 08, 2011, 07:34:31 PM
you had to work for that pic too.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 07:45:42 PM
you had to work for that pic too.
That's also why I can clear Super Metroid in less than 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on December 08, 2011, 08:11:29 PM
Well, he must be doing something right.  Considering the 3rd movie made over 1 billion dollars and is currently the 4th highest grossing film in history.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Rainbow Dash on December 08, 2011, 08:56:44 PM
I seem to remember an interview where Bay said he'd never do Grimlock.  Have to admit some enjoyable curiosity at how Bay would do Unicron.

it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/142/925/Ponyrage.jpg)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 09:09:47 PM
I seem to remember an interview where Bay said he'd never do Grimlock.  Have to admit some enjoyable curiosity at how Bay would do Unicron.
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/142/925/Ponyrage.jpg)
Those faces are fucking creepy as shit.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on December 08, 2011, 09:17:39 PM
I seem to remember an interview where Bay said he'd never do Grimlock.  Have to admit some enjoyable curiosity at how Bay would do Unicron.
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/142/925/Ponyrage.jpg)
Those faces are fucking creepy as shit.
COMPLETELY agree! Absolutely unapealing. Just really shitty artwork.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: shodan on December 08, 2011, 09:20:00 PM
I seem to remember an interview where Bay said he'd never do Grimlock.  Have to admit some enjoyable curiosity at how Bay would do Unicron.
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/142/925/Ponyrage.jpg)
Those faces are fucking creepy as shit.
COMPLETELY agree! Absolutely unapealing. Just really shitty artwork.
i concur, i have no idea why anybody likes my little pony today.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 08, 2011, 09:58:31 PM
I seem to remember an interview where Bay said he'd never do Grimlock.  Have to admit some enjoyable curiosity at how Bay would do Unicron.
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/142/925/Ponyrage.jpg)
Those faces are fucking creepy as shit.
COMPLETELY agree! Absolutely unapealing. Just really shitty artwork.

Darth, this has been explained to you before. These are rage comics. It's an internet meme. They're supposed to look simple and crude, or as you put it, shitty. It's not about the quality of the artwork; it's about the familiarity of the expressions.

If you're interested in learning more about it, you can check this out. (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/rage-comics)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: shodan on December 08, 2011, 10:00:26 PM
I seem to remember an interview where Bay said he'd never do Grimlock.  Have to admit some enjoyable curiosity at how Bay would do Unicron.
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/142/925/Ponyrage.jpg)
Those faces are fucking creepy as shit.
COMPLETELY agree! Absolutely unapealing. Just really shitty artwork.

Darth, this has been explained to you before. These are rage comics. It's an internet meme. They're supposed to look simple and crude, or as you put it, shitty. It's not about the quality of the artwork; it's about the familiarity of the expressions.

If you're interested in learning more about it, you can check this out. (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/rage-comics)
meme? was ist meme?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Pak-Man on December 08, 2011, 10:29:28 PM
All I know is memes sure can has cheeseburgers.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Danecho1967 on December 09, 2011, 09:25:37 AM
You have to love the internet.  Sure, it looks like half assed shit thrown together by a talentless hack.  It's supposed to look like half assed shit thrown together by a talentless hack.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Nunyerbiz on December 09, 2011, 09:27:22 AM
You have to love the internet Transformers movies.  Sure, it looks like half assed shit thrown together by a talentless hack.  It's supposed to look like half assed shit thrown together by a talentless hack.

Dovetails nicely back to the thread subject!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on December 09, 2011, 09:40:00 AM
You have to love the internet Transformers movies.  Sure, it looks like half assed shit thrown together by a talentless hack.  It's supposed to look like half assed shit thrown together by a talentless hack.

Dovetails nicely back to the thread subject!
:D But Michael Bay used his whole ass.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 09, 2011, 10:05:55 AM
You have to love the internet.  Sure, it looks like half assed shit thrown together by a talentless hack.  It's supposed to look like half assed shit thrown together by a talentless hack.

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/391056_216712951736088_126894987384552_495501_1295260256_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Russell on December 09, 2011, 06:18:43 PM
I'm wondering when I'm going to grow up and not give a shit about any of the things I liked as a child. It's only a matter of time. :(
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: daltysmilth on December 12, 2011, 10:19:28 AM
I just watched a few episodes of the original Transformers.  And I was wondering: the original cartoon is less stupid than the Michael Bay movies how, exactly?

Just to pick one example: the introduction of the dinobots.

Basically what happens is the autobots discover some dinosaur bones around the Ark, and because they've never seen dinosaurs before, they ask Spike to explain them.  So Spike takes the Jeep guy to a museum where Jeep guy takes out a device that to all appearances is a gun, and takes holographic pictures of the dinosaur exhibit, and no one even thinks to stop him at any point.  Then back at the Ark, Spike gives a grade-school explanation of dinosaurs that contained information that I think even at the time the episode was made was laughably outdated.  Because of Spike's description of how powerful the dinosaurs were (I believe his exact words were "the dinosaurs were powerful"), the medic autobot and one of the other ones decide that they should have some dinosaurs, you know, to do manual labor and such.  So they ask Optimus's permission, and Optimus basically says "I can't think of any reason that building robots based on creatures we've only just found out exist and know practically nothing about would be a bad idea.  Go ahead."

Unfortunately, since Jurassic Park would not come out for several years, the autobots didn't realize that recreating dinosaurs would inevitably result in the dinosaurs turning on their creators and wreaking havoc, which they do almost immediately.  So Optimus orders the dinobots to be deactivated, sealed in a cave, and never reactivated.  But then Optimus and the autobots are caught in a trap by the decepticons, and so they have to, surprise surprise, reactivate the dinobots to save them.  Only they're given just enough of a memory upgrade that they'll know not to attack the autobots and speak in sentence fragments.

Yeah, that's MUCH better than any of the live-action movies.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on December 12, 2011, 01:58:09 PM
I just watched a few episodes of the original Transformers.  And I was wondering: the original cartoon is less stupid than the Michael Bay movies how, exactly?
Well, I notice several things. First, there is no mention of Spike (ie. Sam) stammering like a coked up baboon. No mention of humping dogs, racist robot stereotypes who can't read, or unfunny slapstick (although I don't deny there may have been ufunny slapstick in the cartoon, and some of the characters were stereotypes). I particularly notice that you mention that Spike is actually useful in some way towards the plot. Also, unless this is a multi-episode story, IT ONLY TOOK ~25 MINUTES! The robot were distinguishable from each other, and when they actually do fight, you can tell what they are doing (whether you care, or it makes sense, is debatable).
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: bta on December 12, 2011, 03:10:51 PM
Wait, no humping dogs in the cartoon?  I'm out.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: daltysmilth on December 12, 2011, 06:38:35 PM
I just watched a few episodes of the original Transformers.  And I was wondering: the original cartoon is less stupid than the Michael Bay movies how, exactly?
Well, I notice several things. First, there is no mention of Spike (ie. Sam) stammering like a coked up baboon. No mention of humping dogs, racist robot stereotypes who can't read, or unfunny slapstick (although I don't deny there may have been ufunny slapstick in the cartoon, and some of the characters were stereotypes). I particularly notice that you mention that Spike is actually useful in some way towards the plot. Also, unless this is a multi-episode story, IT ONLY TOOK ~25 MINUTES! The robot were distinguishable from each other, and when they actually do fight, you can tell what they are doing (whether you care, or it makes sense, is debatable).

The robots were distinguishable from each other only in the sense that they looked slightly different and they had different voices.  Otherwise they were totally interchangable.  The only ones with anything resembling a personality were Optimus, Bumblebee, Starscream, and Megatron.  And Spike doesn't have a personality at all.  I would welcome a stammer or even an accent, or something that even vaguely resembles characterization. 
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on February 15, 2012, 07:02:58 PM
Does this mean they'll actually make a good movie this time?

http://badassdigest.com/2012/02/15/insiders-say-transformers-4-will-have-more-action-less-jokes/
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on February 21, 2012, 01:57:52 PM
They have been saying that since transformers 2,so no they are not making a good one this time.  Bay doesn't know how to make a good movie.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on February 21, 2012, 04:32:57 PM
I seem to remember an interview where Bay said he'd never do Grimlock.  Have to admit some enjoyable curiosity at how Bay would do Unicron.
it is butchering a beloved childhood cartoon
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/142/925/Ponyrage.jpg)
Those faces are fucking creepy as shit.
COMPLETELY agree! Absolutely unapealing. Just really shitty artwork.
i concur, i have no idea why anybody likes my little pony today.

What happened to my ponies?  Loved them as a child, but they're weird looking now.

And damn if they didn't have to change Strawberry Shortcake too
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Ben on March 01, 2012, 12:38:25 PM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html

How exactly is this sad news? All you have to do is not see it.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on March 01, 2012, 12:44:22 PM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html

How exactly is this sad news? All you have to do is not see it.

Well i think you could make a fun kids movie out of Transformers but as long as Bay is making them that will not happen. That is kind of sad.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Invader_quirk on March 01, 2012, 12:54:38 PM
It's sad because, if for no other reason, those millions could've fed millions of starving children.

Also it's a sad reminder of the state of the industry.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Danecho1967 on March 01, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html

How exactly is this sad news? All you have to do is not see it.
I could have named the thread "Transformers 4" but that would have been boring, and "Michael Bay sucks [expletive deleted]" is inappropriate.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on March 02, 2012, 06:58:46 PM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html

How exactly is this sad news? All you have to do is not see it.

Upvote!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on September 21, 2012, 07:18:49 PM
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/michael-bay-talks-transformers-4-peter-cullen-is-returning-as-optimus-prime-175975/

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and the studio says they want to restart the franchise. And someone could come in here and screw it up, you know?

Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on January 08, 2013, 06:01:39 PM
From Micheal Bay: (http://michaelbay.com/2013/01/08/jack-reynor/)
Quote from: MIchael Bay
I just hired a great new actor for Transformers 4 to star against Mark Wahlberg. Jack Reynor, he is an Irish kid that came to America with 30 bucks in his pocket. Pretty ballsy. Seriously who does that? Anyway I spotted him in a great little Irish movie WHAT RICHARD DID. This kid is the real deal.

Transformers 4, is not a reboot. That word has been floating around on the net.

This movie takes place exactly 4 years after the war in Chicago. The story makes a very natural transition, and reason as to why we have a whole new cast. This Transformers will feel very different than the last three. We are embarking on a new trilogy.

Michael

enjoy
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Satellite of Love on January 08, 2013, 06:10:45 PM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html

You lie!!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5s1muasTh1qbaj4uo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on January 08, 2013, 08:41:46 PM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html

You lie!!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5s1muasTh1qbaj4uo1_400.gif)
Lets all sing the Doom song!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Satellite of Love on January 09, 2013, 08:21:27 AM
Assuming our hopes and prayers remain unanswered, and Michael Bay doesn't get raped to death by wolves.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/michael-bay-will-direct-fourth-transformers-film.html

You lie!!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5s1muasTh1qbaj4uo1_400.gif)
Lets all sing the Doom song!

Doom!!

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m37y5eFJUZ1qdhmiuo1_500.gif)

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgmydzT3XO1qbilz6.gif)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on January 09, 2013, 08:27:24 AM
I wonder why/when Ben left the forum?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: BiteMe316 on January 09, 2013, 09:22:59 AM
It's official.  There is no God.  We're all gonna die.   :speechless: :scared:
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Gunflyer on January 20, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
I tolerated the first 3 like a good sport. Someone else, ANYONE else needs to take a stab at them.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on March 21, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
http://www.chud.com/129649/transformers-4-heads-to-motor-city-lets-loose-plot-details/ (http://www.chud.com/129649/transformers-4-heads-to-motor-city-lets-loose-plot-details/)

I keep hearing about how they are going to redesign the Transformers for the new movie, and somehow give a reason why. $20 says they make them even MORE complicated.

Also, the idea of humans using transformers technology (presumably to make their own robots) just brings to mind the G1 episode B.O.T. You know, the one that even the biggest Transformers fans hate!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Pak-Man on March 21, 2013, 10:53:13 AM
I say he should go for broke and try to make a movie out of "Carnage in C Minor". Orlando Bloom would make a good Zebop, so Michael Bay would probably cast Bruce Willis. :^)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on March 21, 2013, 06:29:12 PM
I'm not sure where you are getting all the hate of B.O.T.  Carnage in C Minor is hated way more than B.O.T
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on May 01, 2013, 03:36:16 PM
http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/kelsey-grammer-lands-lead-human-villain-in-transformers-sequel/

So Frasier is the human villain in Transformers 4.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Pak-Man on May 01, 2013, 04:21:25 PM
Optimus Prime vs. Sideshow Bob...
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 02, 2013, 02:22:25 AM
Optimus Prime vs. Sideshow Bob...

That would be great.  Shame that he simply be playing an exploding tit that says "Shit just got real."
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on May 02, 2013, 05:07:09 AM
Gobots!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on May 30, 2013, 07:31:59 PM
Bleeding Cool:
Meet The New Bumblebee From Transformers 4. The Makeover Is Pretty Radical – UPDATED (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/30/is-this-the-new-bumblebee-for-transformers-4-the-makeover-is-pretty-radical/)
Quote from:  Brendon Connelly
Meanwhile, here’s a big old rusty cab also spotted at the location by Instagram user RezzieBoi. An alt Optimus?
Ultra Magnus? (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/30/is-this-the-new-bumblebee-for-transformers-4-the-makeover-is-pretty-radical/battered-old-truck/)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Raven on May 30, 2013, 09:17:31 PM
Well the 3rd one was better than the 2nd one.  If they keep getting incrimentally better like that, by the 15th film one might be considered "alright."  Not watching this til there's a riff for it and I'm not hoping they make a riff for it.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Zeether on May 31, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
The ratty old Freightliner is rumored to be Grimlock, which makes zero sense. And they could have used THAT for Prime instead, but no, gotta have the giant ugly snubnose truck with the flames and the pipes sticking out at an angle...

I bet Bumblebee will be mute again too. And despite VW saying "we don't want to be associated with war toys" a Veyron is one of the Autobots, from a company owned by VW now.  ::)

Also, "B.O.T." is probably the worst G1 episode, not just because the plot is stupid but because there's ridiculous errors like the Autobots being flummoxed by a wooden door and the ubiquitous scale issues (which to be fair were always a thing with Transformers). Carnage in C Minor is just as bad though, wasn't that one of the episodes they outsourced to AKOM and it was rife with horrible animation errors?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on August 25, 2013, 07:04:59 PM

Call Sheet Reveals Tons of ‘Transformers 4′ Details Including Dinobots And Possible “New” Optimus Prime (http://www.slashfilm.com/call-sheet-reveals-tons-of-transformers-4-details-including-dinobots-and-possible-new-optimus-prime/)
Quote from: Germain Lussier
One big question I have is “New Optimus.” We know he looks new design wise, but if that’s just his look in the film, why call him “new” on the call sheet? Unless there is a “new” and “old” one. I have a feeling we might be in for some kind of Transformers: The Movie situation.

Bleeding Cool:
First Official Shot From Transformers 4, Word That Dinobots Will Be On Set Today (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/08/23/first-official-shot-from-transformers-4-word-that-dinobots-will-be-on-set-today/)


BAD:
How Optimus Prime’s Death Defined A Generation  (http://badassdigest.com/2013/07/29/how-optimus-primes-death-defined-a-generation/)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Zeether on September 09, 2013, 06:55:54 AM
Someone caught the crew filming a scene where Prime drives through explosions. Yup, Bayformers movie all right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4n3eqszkkE
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on September 09, 2013, 09:50:01 AM
I am still curious to see their "redesigned" robot forms. Maybe after 3 movies and 8 years developement, somebody has told them that fighting robots wouldn't have EXPOSED GEARS AND WIRING! Dumbass.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on September 23, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/9rukJQaDOmkvFzYYYEkJwQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMwMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/movietalk/transformers4-teaserposter-jpg_213945.jpg)

Quote
Age of Extinction" as the title of the fourth big-screen "Transformers" adventure has been unveiled exclusively here on Yahoo Movies.

The title reveal comes courtesy of the first official teaser poster, which incorporates the now-familiar logo of the number "4" merged with half of a Decepticon insignia. The artwork suggests we're somewhere in the desert (or perhaps some post-apocalyptic wasteland?), and the term "Age of Extinction" makes us think that one of our all-time favorite Transformers factions will be heavily featured in the movie.

We're speaking, of course, of the Dinobots, the robots that turned into dinosaurs that were one of Hasbro's masterstrokes in the seemingly never-ending sub-groups of Autobots and Decepticons. The Dinobots were about the coolest Transformers you could own back in the mid-'80s, with the team consisting of leader Grimlock (a T. Rex), Sludge (a Brontosaurus) and Slag (a Triceratops), with Snarl (a Stegosaurus) and Swoop (a Pterodactyl) introduced later.

The Dinobots have long been rumored to be making their debuts in "Transformers 4," er, "Transformers: Age of Extinction," mostly because including those characters seems like the next logical step in the franchise's evolution. Producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura all but confirmed the Dinobots being featured in the film in an interview earlier this week with Beijing News:

"I can not disclose the specifics, but you can be sure that the arrival of the Dinobots will give the audience a lot to be excited about," said di Bonaventura, via Tformers.com. "The world's coolest, most exciting cars will appear in the film, including Chinese vehicles, so whether you are a car enthusiast or not, it will be a feast for the eyes."

An interesting addendum there, as Hollywood blockbusters are all about catering to Chinese audiences lately. And they should be: "Pacific Rim" qualifies as a hit thanks to its astonishing $100 million take at the Chinese box office (more than that particular giant robot movie made in the U.S.). The new "Transformers" is being filmed in both in the U.S. and China, with Chinese singer/actor Han Geng making his English-language debut in the film.

Beyond this, plot details on "Transformers: Age of Extinction" are being kept under wraps. We do know the lead this time will be played by Mark Wahlberg, who takes over the reins from Shia LaBeouf. Wahlberg reteams with his "Pain & Gain" director Michael Bay, who told Yahoo Movies that Wahlberg plays a father in the new installment.

The cast of "Transformers: Age of Extinction" also includes Stanley Tucci, Kelsey Grammer, Nicola Peltz, Sophia Myles and T.J. Miller. The film will roll out (yeah, we almost made it to the end without including that reference) on June 27, 2014.

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/transformers-4-title-reveal-age-extinction-hints-dinobots-225716345.html
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 23, 2013, 08:34:46 PM
The cast of "Transformers: Age of Extinction" also includes ....T.J. Miller.

CYBERTRON, YEAH!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Henry88 on February 21, 2014, 06:35:40 PM
Titus Welliver Says ‘Transformers: Age of Extinction’ Is ‘Not a Kids’ Movie’
http://screenrant.com/transformers-4-age-extinction-darker-not-kids-movie/
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 21, 2014, 09:11:03 PM
Titus Welliver Says ‘Transformers: Age of Extinction’ Is ‘Not a Kids’ Movie’
http://screenrant.com/transformers-4-age-extinction-darker-not-kids-movie/

"It's really like Salo: 120 Days of Sodom but with robots."
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: The Lurker on February 21, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Titus Welliver Says ‘Transformers: Age of Extinction’ Is ‘Not a Kids’ Movie’
http://screenrant.com/transformers-4-age-extinction-darker-not-kids-movie/

"It's really like Salo: 120 Days of Sodom but with robots."
Or A Serbian Film
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on February 23, 2014, 11:37:05 PM
Titus Welliver Says ‘Transformers: Age of Extinction’ Is ‘Not a Kids’ Movie’
http://screenrant.com/transformers-4-age-extinction-darker-not-kids-movie/

Weird to change that 4 movies into a series, especially if it's still PG how is it not a 'kids movie'?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Johnny Unusual on February 24, 2014, 09:34:53 PM
Maybe he meant "even kids won't be stupid enough to enjoy this?"
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Ben on February 28, 2014, 04:57:28 PM
Titus Welliver Says ‘Transformers: Age of Extinction’ Is ‘Not a Kids’ Movie’
http://screenrant.com/transformers-4-age-extinction-darker-not-kids-movie/

"It's really like Salo: 120 Days of Sodom but with robots."

Didn't Michael Bay make that movie already? I think it was called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on March 04, 2014, 08:19:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ubGpDoyJvmI
Uh...so why is Optimus Prime hiding out in the middle of nowhere, like Yoda? How long does this take place after the last one? It seems like it's a long time because of him being rusty, but they don't rust like normal cars so presumably that's a disguise...?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on March 05, 2014, 04:31:22 AM
He is hiding to avoid all the anti Transformer backlash from inadvertently destroying Chicago.  This movie is 4 years after the last one.  Yes, you are right, it is only a disguise.  Also the phone number on the billboard is an actual working phone number.  Yeah, I called it.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on March 05, 2014, 07:15:45 AM
"inadvertantly" destroying Chicago? The Autobots pretended to be blown up so they could have "the element of surprise" which didn't amount to anything, and only served to wait for the battle to take place AFTER the Decepticons had already started their attack on Chicago. So yeah, that's largely on them.
I do like that there is some actual consequences for the actions in previous movies.
Sadly, while the look of them has changed a little bit, they are still WAY overcomplicated and messy to watch when moving.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on March 05, 2014, 07:40:49 AM
Hey Optimus is the same kind of truck he was in the cartoon/toy now.

Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on March 05, 2014, 08:23:49 AM
"inadvertantly" destroying Chicago? The Autobots pretended to be blown up so they could have "the element of surprise" which didn't amount to anything, and only served to wait for the battle to take place AFTER the Decepticons had already started their attack on Chicago. So yeah, that's largely on them.
I do like that there is some actual consequences for the actions in previous movies.
Sadly, while the look of them has changed a little bit, they are still WAY overcomplicated and messy to watch when moving.

They did actually have some surprise advantage.  They were able to get to Chicago without having to fight the whole way there and managed to get almost all the way to the pillar.  Had they not pretended to be blown up, they would have had to fight the entire Decepticon army from Washington D.C. to Chicago, a distance of almost 700 miles.  Seemed like Optimus had a sound strategy.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on March 05, 2014, 09:37:22 AM
They are robots in DISGUISE, and have already shown that they can turn into ANYTHING (thereby making it 'morphing', not 'transforming', but that is another issue). I don't buy that they couldn't have gotten there in secret before many many thousands of human deaths.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on March 05, 2014, 09:45:26 AM
No, we have been shown they can transform into vehicles with similar mass as their own.  Also, I still dont find it very likely that if the Autobots refused to surrender the Decepticons would have just let them go on their merry way.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: The Lurker on March 12, 2014, 09:06:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/EyHimsg.jpg)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: BathTub on March 13, 2014, 02:06:36 AM
Not sure I want to see the scene where he uses that. Or do I?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: fubisd on March 13, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
I didn't see the 3rd Transformers without Rifftrax help.  After seeing Devastator's balls in the 2nd one, I was done.

But speculation makes me wonder.... Could we see Unicron, and could that be Galvatron... voiced by Nimoy in the '86 cartoon movie?  Galvatron came back as a giant gun on tracks after Unicron worked his energon magic. 

Or do we have a synopsis and it's just a Devastator ball fest.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on March 14, 2014, 03:43:33 AM
Galvatron was the other main villian besides Megatron, right? the lazer cannon or something?


Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on March 14, 2014, 05:48:58 AM
Galvatron was the other main villian besides Megatron, right? the lazer cannon or something?
In the animated movie, Megatron was turned into Galvatron by Unicron. ...and I just realized how silly of a sentance that was...
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: fubisd on March 15, 2014, 04:23:05 AM
Yeah.  Hasbro wanted to refresh the toy line, so they killed off nearly a dozen autobots but only a small handful of decepticons.  Heck even most of those decepticons that were killed were absorbed by Unicron and spit back out as brand new, fully marketable toys.  Megatron being one of them, turning into Galvatron.  Thundercracker was turned into Scourge, yadda yadda yadda.

The one thing I hate in all the movies... beyond Devastators balls, beyond the racist autobots, beyond the fact that Prime had lips... was Starscream.  I mean ffs, he had to be the ugliest out of ALL of them.  No seething hate, no manipulative streak, no color, and his body just looked ridiculous.  You'd have to have never seen a single 80's Transformers cartoon to not understand Starscream.  Every time Megatron left to take a dump Starscream was there to stab him in the back.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on March 16, 2014, 05:52:50 AM
Yeah.  Hasbro wanted to refresh the toy line, so they killed off nearly a dozen autobots but only a small handful of decepticons.  Heck even most of those decepticons that were killed were absorbed by Unicron and spit back out as brand new, fully marketable toys.  Megatron being one of them, turning into Galvatron.  Thundercracker was turned into Scourge, yadda yadda yadda.

Galvatron was the other main villian besides Megatron, right? the lazer cannon or something?
In the animated movie, Megatron was turned into Galvatron by Unicron. ...and I just realized how silly of a sentance that was...

These are among the many reasons I remain shocked people are angry the movies are silly and disposable, the animated series was a repetitive and kind of awful commercial for cool toys.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Pak-Man on March 16, 2014, 01:04:56 PM
The fact that the source material was often kind of silly is the reason I usually give Bay's Transformers flicks a pass into the "Pretty Watchable" category.

What Bay's movies missed, and what I think most of the die-hard G1 fans are missing whether they realize it or not, is that each of the Transformers had a very unique, somewhat relatable personality. Most of Bay's Transformers had little to no personality, and the few that did were kind of obnoxious. It sounds conterintuitive, but I think if the TF movies were a bit more character-driven rather than action-driven, they'd resonate with the fans a little more.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on March 16, 2014, 01:52:35 PM
Yeah, that and the minor fact that the show was ABOUT THE ROBOTS! They were the main characters, not the humans.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on March 16, 2014, 02:09:01 PM
Yes, I would love to see a 2 hour movie 75% of it robots only, but that will never happen in a big block buster.  It will always be human centered.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on March 16, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
Uh, how about a ONE AND A HALF hour movie? Does anybody know how to make one of those anymore?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 27, 2014, 05:54:53 PM
So this movie...

Isn't that bad. 

It isn't great, but it's good.  The story is pretty coherent, shaky cam is kept to a minimum so you can see what's going on.  Humans don't overshadow the robots, and the ones in the film work with the story.  The dinobots are awesome, and there aren't a ton of robots to keep track of.

Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: The Lurker on June 27, 2014, 05:57:04 PM
Heard the comic relief is kept to a minimum.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 27, 2014, 06:01:01 PM
Heard the comic relief is kept to a minimum.

Very much so.  Basically, the little truck one from the last movie is in it, but he's barely in it.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on June 27, 2014, 06:05:34 PM
No, the other one that was in the third movie.  His name is Brains, not that any of you care.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 27, 2014, 06:15:54 PM
No, the other one that was in the third movie.  His name is Brains, not that any of you care.
The important thing is that there was a pony in the film. 

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2hqw0au.jpg)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: The Lurker on June 27, 2014, 06:21:10 PM
No, the other one that was in the third movie.  His name is Brains, not that any of you care.
The important thing is that there was a pony in the film. 

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2hqw0au.jpg)
So that's what it would look like if Shia and Del Toro fused.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on June 27, 2014, 06:35:00 PM
A transforming pony.  The ultimate crossover.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on June 27, 2014, 07:11:46 PM
A transforming pony.  The ultimate crossover.

And also something that actually caught my attention for a few seconds.

Unlike the rest of this pile of slop.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on June 27, 2014, 07:17:02 PM
Brad Jones (The Cinema Snob) review with his friends was surprisingly positive. Relatively, anyway. Still not a good movie, but better than the other ones, and not aggressively insulting.
I am looking forward to Spoony's rant.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Toyland Chairman on June 28, 2014, 12:11:45 PM
Brad Jones (The Cinema Snob) review with his friends was surprisingly positive. Relatively, anyway. Still not a good movie, but better than the other ones, and not aggressively insulting.
I am looking forward to Spoony's rant.

MovieBob's review was surprisingly positive. He Hated the first three.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/9485-Transformers-Age-of-Extinction-Better-Than-The-First-Three
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Trekker4747 on June 28, 2014, 07:01:19 PM
In Michael Bay's mind, it goes from dusk, to daytime, back to dusk again in inside two minutes.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Trekker4747 on June 28, 2014, 07:33:28 PM
Brad Jones (The Cinema Snob) review with his friends was surprisingly positive. Relatively, anyway. Still not a good movie, but better than the other ones, and not aggressively insulting.
I am looking forward to Spoony's rant.

Yeah, that surprised me. Brad was actually quite "praiseful" of it compared to the previous one.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on June 28, 2014, 09:47:24 PM
I'm glad to see this movie getting at least somewhat better reviews than the others. But I'll still wait for the inevitable Rifftrax.

And for some reason the search function sucks, and I can't find the thread I made a few years ago about the few positive things I could say about Bayformers.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Trekker4747 on June 29, 2014, 03:18:06 AM
And for some reason the search function sucks, and I can't find the thread I made a few years ago about the few positive things I could say about Bayformers.

Probably lost when the board software was updated a few years back. If you look in some of the older RT-Release forums you'll notice a LOT got pruned.

Ad for good things about Bayformers, well... They have endings, if you look hard enough you might notice the Transformers are in there as characters.  And... Hot actresses?

Anyway, I think it's too much to say the movie is getting better reviews. Professional reviews over at Rotten Tomatoes has it in the teens.

Most viewer reviews I've seen have been along the lines of "best one of the franchise" and "not bad."  Both kind of with a shrug and an admission that it's damming with faint praise.

I mean, don't get me wrong when I say I liked it.  The movie was still god-awful terrible and typical Bay excess, but it wasn't as over-the-top and annoying as the previous movies and I'm one to say it's the best movie of the franchise but that's only because something has to be. (I guess, think of the "Winning the Special-Olympics" internet image macro.)

It didn't have Shia LeBouff, offensive characters, after a certain point no useless annoying characters and wasn't all that annoying as the others. Also, the Autobots are actually more of characters in the movie and are more well handled.

On the other hand? It's almost three goddamn hours long!

There's nowhere near enough story here to support that run time and the movie becomes pretty tedious pretty quickly.  If the movie was trimmed down to inside of two hours, I'd probably be willing to actually give it a lot more praise and call it "good."  But as it stands?  The movie just "wasn't terrible."  Had some good visuals in it and, the human characters sort of serve a purpose and didn't want me to slam a car-door on their batch.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Nobody on June 29, 2014, 03:26:28 AM
No way I'll watch this without Rifftrax.  Michael Bay sucks Devastator's massive taint.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on June 29, 2014, 08:17:11 AM
It's the long runtime where I don't buy it when some people have claimed Michael Bay doesn't want to make these movies.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 29, 2014, 08:35:50 AM
It didn't feel like a three hour film.  It's surprisingly well paced with few few slow points.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Pak-Man on June 29, 2014, 11:14:03 PM
Yeah, it wasn't too bad. It's not the Transformers movie all the fans have been waiting for, and it's still distinctly Michael Bay, but the humans are way more sane and tolerable, the core team of about 5 Autobots have some actual personality and are worth rooting for, and the action sequences, though exhaustingly numerous, are way easier to follow.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Soguru on June 29, 2014, 11:34:45 PM
There will definitely be a Transformers 5 now that it's been officially labeled a hit. Dios ayuda todos nosotros.  >:(
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RandyMistie on June 30, 2014, 12:00:06 AM
OK! You know that I love you, Swipe... but what is the fucking thing with The Transformers, already....

I was totally done with, Go-Bots, Voltron, Boogie-bots.... or whatever.... like 30 years ago! I was so sick of seeing these transforming toy commercials I thought I might puke every day, (I was selling kids shoes and every shoe was some kind of Transformer thing), and then I worked in a toy shop.... holy my god and sonny jesus, I was so sick of transforming, Japanese robots....

And now, 30 years later, there are like 29 movies... WHY!!!

What is the appeal?! Please tell me.... gods I hate Japan and their goddamn robots! Good food, BAD ROBOTS!!!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on June 30, 2014, 06:19:04 AM
Hahaha, I get it.  It was a big part of my childhood.  My first real favorite t.v. show.  You know how you pick stuff up in your formative years and it just sticks around the rest of your ife.  Yeah, that's what happened.

I am under no illusions though, Im not going to argue that everything to do with Transformers is a masterpiece, execept maybe the Masterpiece collectible line.  It was a ridiculous toy commercial but it was an awesome one at that.  The movies, for the most part entertain the hell out of me too, so that's my personal bias.

Also, they toys were originally from Japanese toy lines, but they were considered a failure in Japan.  Hasbro licensed the molds and created the mythology and characters and eventually sold the characters back to Japan.  So the popularity relies a lot on Hasbro, maybe even more than Japan.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RandyMistie on June 30, 2014, 06:28:45 AM
LOL! Yes, Swipe, I think I freaked out like this before and you talked me off of the ledge... I get it!

For me it was Batman.... and Dracula.... I really get it.

Your pedagogical myths are no less silly than mine.... We all have these things...

I just need to breathe until the NEXT Transformers movie comes out.... And then, I cannot promise you I won't freak out again!!!

HAHA!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on June 30, 2014, 06:57:12 AM
Yeah, it wont be the last time I explain that.  I pretty much feel the same way about this Power Rangers reboot people are talking about trying to make.  I watched it a bit as a kid but never really stayed with it, I moved on and didn't look back.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RandyMistie on June 30, 2014, 07:12:15 AM
POWER RANGERS!!!!! NOoOOOoOOOOOooooooo!!!!!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on June 30, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
Here, Randy, maybe this will help you like Transformers better:

(http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/radicons-customs/27377031d1373676074-batman-transformer-crossover-batformer-battf01.jpg)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RandyMistie on June 30, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
NOOOoooooOOOOooooooO!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on June 30, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
Thats a Springer repaint from the Generations line.  He is a triple changer.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on June 30, 2014, 10:43:21 AM
Yes. But I do like that he turns into something that really looks like the Batmobile.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons-customs/946061-batman-transformer-crossover-batformer.html

(http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/radicons-customs/27377042d1373676158-batman-transformer-crossover-batformer-battf12.jpg)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RandyMistie on June 30, 2014, 10:50:15 AM
Oh my goodness! That you know that, is.... really quite remarkable!

I love the show, Comic Book Men, especially when the folks bring in something like that; a collectable, or a comic, and an expert can look for just a second and deconstruct the entire history of the object and give a valid estimate of it's value. It may be a useless skill compared to, say, astronomy, or Quantum Physics, but it is much more interesting to me, most times!

Although, I do study Astronomy and Quantum Physics, there are times I just wanna read some Batman comics, know what I am sayin'?

Ah, for fun....
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on June 30, 2014, 11:26:21 AM
I happen to have one of those figures.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x145/sideswipegta/batspring_zpsc04f6d80.jpg)
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RandyMistie on June 30, 2014, 11:40:54 AM
Amazing! You rock, dude!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Trekker4747 on July 02, 2014, 08:12:25 PM
It didn't feel like a three hour film.  It's surprisingly well paced with few few slow points.

I agree, it felt like a four-hour film.

I guess it was *terrible*, probably the better of the franchise all things considered as it toned down a lot of what made the other movies so painful (comic relief, annoying human characters) and surprising anti-tropes and character twists (what happens with Tucci's character.)  But *dam* this thing still is a mess.  There's not enough story to sustain a movie this long considering the whole story is just about the Autobots trying to recover another MacGuffin that'll destroy the world, or whatever.

Really seems like a lot could have been done to make the story tighter and shorter which, really, Bay *is* capable of, at least to some small degree.

I will give him *some* credit that the fight scenes were a bit more comprehensible and at least the Autobots used has distinct personalities and were in it a whole lot more than in other movies, and it's hard to dislike the idea of Optimus Prime riding a giant fire-breathing robotic dinosaur.

Cut this movie down to inside of two-hours and it would have been pretty... "decent."

At the very least, no Sia LeBeouf antics, his parents' antics (with his mother getting another lobotomy) and the fight scenes were a bit more comprehensible. Just a bit.  And there were some nice thrilling set-piece (like the high-wire crossing to the Sears Tower.)

But, god, this movie is still a wreck.

Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on July 02, 2014, 08:20:24 PM
So by this pace we'll get an actually good movie by, what, Transformers 12?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Toyland Chairman on July 09, 2014, 02:48:33 PM
Saw this last night, and it's better than the first three. Still needs work, but it's a step in the right direction. Nice to hear Frank Welker is back as Galvatron, even if the character feels tacked on. They probably should've saved him for TRANSFORMERS 5.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on July 09, 2014, 03:07:50 PM
He wasn't intended to be the big bad in this one.  Just an intro for him.  Like he said, we haven't seen the last of him.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: NRRork on July 09, 2014, 07:46:59 PM
It's already made $600 million. Who keeps paying to see this man's movies? And, more importantly, how can we find out so we can round them up and have them killed humanely?

. . .

I'm kidding about that last part, of course.

I don't care if it's done humanely.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on July 09, 2014, 07:53:53 PM
Your not an Apple consumer are you?  Because the majority of China would be wiped out. so no one will be able to make your iShit anymore.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: NRRork on July 09, 2014, 08:04:16 PM
No, I'm not. But even if I was, if it meant no more Michael Bay movies. . .

Woo, that'd be a tough decision.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Ben on July 10, 2014, 06:45:55 PM
It's already made $600 million. Who keeps paying to see this man's movies? And, more importantly, how can we find out so we can round them up and have them killed humanely?

. . .

I'm kidding about that last part, of course.

I don't care if it's done humanely.

Dude. It's just. A movie.

Just. A. Movie.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: NRRork on July 10, 2014, 07:35:08 PM
Dude. It's just. A joke.

Just. A. Joke.

I mean, I know I didn't pepper it with LOLs, smileys and <sarcasm> tags, as required by internet law, but I guess I'm just something of a rebel.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Ben on July 10, 2014, 07:44:46 PM
Oh, I knew it was meant to be a joke. But making casual puns about exterminating a large portion of the populace over a dumb film just strikes me as somewhat more hateful than the usual nerd snark.

I'm sure the idea of Jews being sent en masse to concentration camps and gas chambers would have been considered the height of absurdity in the 1910's/1920's. Just saying.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: NRRork on July 10, 2014, 08:30:26 PM
Well, I can't really argue comedic tastes because those are too subjective. But I will say these kinds of jokes are made with the presumption that none of us actually approve of slaughtering millions of innocents over something as trivial is a movie, and with the further presumption that it would never actually happen.

If the Transformers Genocide ever actually happens, I guess that'll be me retroactively looking like a bit of a dick. But I'm willing to roll those dice, I guess.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on July 10, 2014, 08:36:20 PM
Haha, not if, when the Transformers Genocide happens you bastards are all screwed.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RoninFox on July 11, 2014, 04:47:49 AM
Easy there, social justice warrior... and 1910's/1920's? What?

When you're re-reading this thread in 2030 you'll be happy he was specific.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on August 04, 2014, 06:08:13 AM
Transformers 4 gross hits 1 billion.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/box-office-milestone-transformers-age-of-extinction-93699472882.html
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: NRRork on August 04, 2014, 07:41:47 AM
And you think of all the other things that billion dollars could've gone toward:

The poor, the hungry, the sick, a better movie. . .
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Miku Fan on August 04, 2014, 09:17:44 PM
I thought about you Rifftrax forum people this weekend.  Drove past a theater and noticed that Transfomers 4 was playing.  Made me laugh, thinking about the forum.  I was surprised that I thought of the forum before thinking of the Riff-guys.   
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on August 04, 2014, 09:26:35 PM
I do hope Rifftrax does this movie. Previously I would have thought it was a given, but with MP3s so rare nowadays, you never know.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Miku Fan on August 04, 2014, 09:31:42 PM
I do hope Rifftrax does this movie. Previously I would have thought it was a given, but with MP3s so rare nowadays, you never know.

I still consider it a given, because they, especially Mike, make so many Shia Lebouf and Transformers jokes.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on August 05, 2014, 06:43:05 AM
Shia Lebouf is not in Transformers 4.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: RoninFox on August 05, 2014, 07:11:27 AM
Which can actually freshen things to being "The absence of Shia Lebouf" jokes. I imagine several opportunities where stupid Mark Wahlburg lines can lead to a "I miss the crisp dialog of 'nononononono' " etc.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on August 05, 2014, 08:37:31 AM
I expect lots of "Where's Le Beef?" jokes.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Miku Fan on August 05, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
I expect lots of "Where's Le Beef?" jokes.

I'll be crushed, crushed, I say, if I don't hear some "I'll take you down like a cabaret dancer" type quips.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: TeamRAD on August 23, 2014, 05:54:57 AM

But have any of you seen it in 4-D? Seth has...

http://www.youtube.com/v/U0BdcwMI0U4

Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Ben on October 04, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
I've been wondering why there hasn't been a riff released for AOE yet. After seeing the movie for myself, I finally understand why. If Mike and Co. barely survived the first three movies, part 4 would kill them outright.

Peter Cullen remains the only reason to sit through all the sound and fury. I love that man.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Pak-Man on October 04, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
Also it's only been out for 5 days. I wouldn't count it out yet...
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Toyland Chairman on October 05, 2014, 07:24:59 PM
I bought the DVD the day it came out. I think this is the best one Michael Bay has done, if still a bit flawed. I've been hearing Mark Wahlberg won't return for 5, but I hope he does. I don't want his character's worthless daughter and her even more useless boyfriend to be the main characters in the next one. If that's the case, I'd rather see a whole new cast again.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on October 05, 2014, 09:48:01 PM
Which can actually freshen things to being "The absence of Shia Lebouf" jokes. I imagine several opportunities where stupid Mark Wahlburg lines can lead to a "I miss the crisp dialog of 'nononononono' " etc.

if they had Dan Van Kirk as a guest this could be great
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Satellite of Love on October 12, 2014, 11:35:38 AM
Is it okay for me to get my hopes up? Is it likely that they will riff this one too?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on October 12, 2014, 11:45:25 AM
Is it okay for me to get my hopes up? Is it likely that they will riff this one too?
I would have thought so, but from the interview with Conor here
http://rifftrax.wikia.com/wiki/RiffWiki_Interviews:_Conor_Lastowka_-_RiffTrax_&_Gone_Whalin'
it sounds like we may not.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on October 12, 2014, 11:46:22 AM
I wouldnt.  They have done jack shit for MP3s this year.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Satellite of Love on October 12, 2014, 12:08:02 PM
Is it okay for me to get my hopes up? Is it likely that they will riff this one too?
I would have thought so, but from the interview with Conor here
http://rifftrax.wikia.com/wiki/RiffWiki_Interviews:_Conor_Lastowka_-_RiffTrax_&_Gone_Whalin'
it sounds like we may not.

What?? Awww man...that sucks
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on October 12, 2014, 12:20:07 PM
Yeah, I love all the Transformers riffs. Especially the first one. But if they aren't interested, I'd rather them not do it just for the sake of sales and we get a lackluster riff (like Avengers).

If they want to do something different, they should riff the 1986 animated Transformers movie. I think that'd have good sales.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Satellite of Love on October 12, 2014, 12:38:24 PM
Yeah, I love all the Transformers riffs. Especially the first one. But if they aren't interested, I'd rather them not do it just for the sake of sales and we get a lackluster riff (like Avengers).

If they want to do something different, they should riff the 1986 animated Transformers movie. I think that'd have good sales.

Yeah I see what you mean I guess....but the avengers riff, I loved it! I thought it was great!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: BathTub on October 12, 2014, 04:50:23 PM
Conor didn't start writing until Crossroads? Interesting,  it was his credit on 5th Element that tipped us all off to his involvement, so I thought he was riffing from the beginning.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Soguru on October 13, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
If they want to do something different, they should riff the 1986 animated Transformers movie. I think that'd have good sales.
Only thing is that movie is pretty rare, plus it's not even available on demand. Unbelievably stupid that it got a limited release, seeing as how it's still the definitive Transformers experience, and it's only 86 minutes!!!

Is there any chance Rifftrax could buy the rights and release a VOD version? Weird Al would have to be a guest riffer.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Sideswipe on October 13, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
Probably not to likely of that happening.  It would be more likely for them to do a live show that get the rights to sell VoDs.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Soguru on October 13, 2014, 08:39:37 PM
Probably not to likely of that happening.  It would be more likely for them to do a live show that get the rights to sell VoDs.
If they did a live show of the original Transformers movie, I'd be the first in line. I love the movie but I would love an affectionate riffing of it even more. All it can do is draw attention back to classic Transformers.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on October 13, 2014, 10:17:04 PM
If they want to do something different, they should riff the 1986 animated Transformers movie. I think that'd have good sales.
Only thing is that movie is pretty rare,
Is it?

EDIT: Just checked Amazon. Yeah, it seems to be out of print. I wonder if they are planning a BluRay release soon?
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Soguru on October 14, 2014, 09:55:57 PM
If they want to do something different, they should riff the 1986 animated Transformers movie. I think that'd have good sales.
Only thing is that movie is pretty rare,
Is it?

EDIT: Just checked Amazon. Yeah, it seems to be out of print. I wonder if they are planning a BluRay release soon?
I guess if they're going to go the anniversary route they could plan a Blu ray release for 2016.

Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on October 15, 2014, 08:48:32 AM
If they want to do something different, they should riff the 1986 animated Transformers movie. I think that'd have good sales.
Only thing is that movie is pretty rare,
Is it?

EDIT: Just checked Amazon. Yeah, it seems to be out of print. I wonder if they are planning a BluRay release soon?
I guess if they're going to go the anniversary route they could plan a Blu ray release for 2016.
Ah yes, the 30th Anniversary Yes You Are Goddamn Old Edition
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Compound on December 08, 2014, 07:01:07 PM
(http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Transformers-4-Oscar.jpg)

Well, I for one think it's a shoe-in for a Best Picture Nod.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Johnny Unusual on December 10, 2014, 05:31:15 AM
I'm sure pretty much every movie that's big enough does that.  Also, I think Jazz's hair was Oscar worthy.  Thanks, Yolanda!
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Kete on December 11, 2014, 12:29:36 PM
I can see it in the Transformers 5 promos:

"Directed by Academy Award entrant Michael Bay"
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Soguru on December 11, 2014, 12:52:34 PM
I think we already lost faith in the academy awards a long time ago but now I think less of them than ever.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Johnny Unusual on December 12, 2014, 01:06:40 AM
You realize that the academy takes no responsibility for whoever asks to be considered, don't you?

Also...
@josswhedon
"I don't care about Oscars. But my next project, "Mecha-Keanu vs Gun-Bot from Planet Titties: A Christmas Miracle" means they're all mine"
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: ScottotD on December 12, 2014, 09:30:26 AM
(http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Transformers-4-Oscar.jpg)

Well, I for one think it's a shoe-in for a Best Picture Nod.

If Crash and Forrest Gump can win it's at least worth a try.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on December 12, 2014, 10:20:33 AM
The only way Michael Bay is going to get an Oscar is for him to steal it from a temple, like Weird Al in UHF.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on December 12, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
Filmschoolrejects did an article recently about this. In short, sure, it's going to get laughed out of any sort of Picture, Director, or Acting awards, but they really don't care, because it's still going to clean house with the technical stuff (nominations if not outright wins). The Academy tends to treat the word Best like it means Most, so a movie that's just a general all-out assault to the eyes and ears is going to go far in those respective categories. And at the end of the day, an Oscar is an Oscar is an Oscar, no matter the category.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on December 12, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
I don't really mind these movies winning special effects awards, since that's really an entirely different department from Bay. Putting aside the waaaay too complicated designs, the CGI was very well done and they actually felt there in the scene.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Nobody on December 12, 2014, 08:04:26 PM
My Bay/Shyamalan rule:  if no riff exists, watch something else.  I doubt I'll ever see this movie.
Title: Re: Sad news: There will be a Transformers 4
Post by: Darth Geek on December 12, 2014, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah, I watched the first one in the theater, trying to give it a chance. I regret it to this day. The second and third one I have only seen with the Rifftrax. I haven't seen the fourth one because there isn't a Rifftrax (or iRiff) yet. And based on their MP3 output, may never.
That being said, I saw Pain & Gain without a riff, because of some of the positive reviews. And I really enjoyed that movie.