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Title: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on September 07, 2006, 07:56:53 PM
I'll just let everyone know right now: I'm an animation geek. :^) I've seen more than any man of 29 has any right to say they've seen, and there's some animated movies that'd make great riffing material. This topic kinda started in my Christmas post, but doesn't anyone else here wanna see some animated fare riffed? :^)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 07, 2006, 08:00:52 PM
actually i love animation too pakky.  I would love to see some riffed.  I think some myazaki or pixar should be riffed.  Mostly because i want to see some good movies get riffed. 

And if we want to REALLY go off the wall how about fantasia?
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 07, 2006, 08:04:05 PM
I think Akira would work fantastically, but I tend to think comedy movies wouldn't really work for riffing.

Maybe Treasure Planet, because... what a stinker!
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 07, 2006, 08:05:05 PM
Or how about disneys atlantis.  That blew hardcore
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on September 07, 2006, 08:05:27 PM
Shrek has possibilities. Does anyone remember the name of those awful Scooby Doo movies they show to death on Cartoon Network? The one where Shaggy's a werewolf and has to win a race would be awesome. :^)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 07, 2006, 08:09:05 PM
Or how about disneys atlantis.  That blew hardcore

I LOVE Disney's Atlantis.

The plus side would be that I already own the DVD.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on September 07, 2006, 08:11:14 PM
I kinda liked Atlantis. Home on the Range was bad, though. Disney traditional Animation's last Hurrah was more of a pathetic yay. :^) Not too riffable though. 101 Dalmations was good, but riffable! :^)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 07, 2006, 08:11:28 PM
to each his own.  i think if we are gonna go anime akira isnt the one i would do.  im not sure which one i would do however.  I think princess monoke would rule.  The movie is amazing truly awesome but i see some good riffing possibility too.  think of the billy bob thorton fun we could have.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 07, 2006, 08:19:06 PM
I kinda liked Atlantis. Home on the Range was bad, though. Disney traditional Animation's last Hurrah was more of a pathetic yay. :^) Not too riffable though. 101 Dalmations was good, but riffable! :^)

The 2-D animation has been re-instated now though! :D
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on September 07, 2006, 08:20:37 PM
Then there may still be hope for Animated features!

And I have to reccomend Transformers: The Movie, 'cuz I'm a Transfan and I'd be remiss if I didn't.

Wouldn't wanna be remiss...
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 07, 2006, 08:22:57 PM
transformers would be good. they are re-releasing it on DVD for the upcoming live action movie so i think that would work well.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 07, 2006, 08:25:28 PM
Though there ARE at least two versions of that movie.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 07, 2006, 08:30:03 PM
not technically animation but what about dark crystal???

There is a sequal coming out to it directed by genndy tartofsky (or how ever its spelled) that could be fun.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: torgosPizza on September 07, 2006, 08:33:20 PM
What about the Polar Express? CG Animation counts too, right? And it would kind of work well if we continue a "seasonal" theme..
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Chrysolithos on September 07, 2006, 09:49:20 PM
Two words; Speed Racer
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 07, 2006, 10:01:31 PM
Two words; Speed Racer

There's a speed racer movie?
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: MoralThreat on September 07, 2006, 10:28:25 PM
What about Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within?  That movie was so melodramatic and preachy it made me sick.  Plus a Baldwin dies.  That's always a good thing.

Could always do Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children.  That thing was totally Emo.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 08, 2006, 12:43:01 AM
What about the Polar Express? CG Animation counts too, right? And it would kind of work well if we continue a "seasonal" theme..

Oh yeah. The animation on that was terrible. Pretty much their biggest gimmick on that thing was that pretty much every character looks and sounds like Tom Hanks. I'm sure Mike could get some good riffs out of that.

I recommended The Hobbit in another thread. A TV special, yes, but definitely riff-worthy.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: SaucyRossy on September 08, 2006, 12:59:33 AM
First Treasure Planet RULES.....

you must of been thinking of Titan A.E.

secondly....there is some REALLLY bad anime out there....would be hard to get though.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Edward J Grug III on September 08, 2006, 01:03:41 AM
First Treasure Planet RULES.....

Oh! How embarrassing! I bet you'll regret drunk posting in the morning!  8)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: mrbasehart on September 08, 2006, 02:01:40 AM
I think it'd be nice if he tore new ones on some of the classics: Bambi, Dumbo, Pinocchio, The Lady and the Tramp. 

Who cares if they're beloved: Destroy them all!  ;D
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 08, 2006, 05:45:40 AM
again i say fantasia.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Tarantulas on September 08, 2006, 06:21:53 AM
You guys are totaly forgetting about Rankin Bass' LOTR stuff..

Its classicaly good/bad.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: DeevFactor on September 08, 2006, 06:34:29 AM
I read that Lilo & Stitch scares J-Proof, so I figured that movie could be riffed in the near future. :P
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 08, 2006, 08:49:55 AM
In the 3D realm: Shark Tale

Honestly, if it didn't have Jack Black, Robert DeNiro, Peter Falk, and Martin Scorsese, it'd be the worst movie of the year!
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on September 08, 2006, 09:09:24 AM
Any of the non-Pixar cookie-cutter CGI movies would work. Shark Tale, Robots, Over the Hedge. that little red riding hood flick, the other 3 or 4 staring animals on the run...
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 08, 2006, 10:00:28 AM
Any of the non-Pixar cookie-cutter CGI movies would work. Shark Tale, Robots, Over the Hedge. that little red riding hood flick, the other 3 or 4 staring animals on the run...

that little red riding hood flick

as in Hoodwinked?


I liked Robots for the most part. Granted, Robin Williams was doing absolutely nothing new, but he was still funny. Just loved the "Musical Arm Farts" gag!
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 08, 2006, 11:14:59 AM
oliver and company would rock too i think.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 08, 2006, 12:43:54 PM
oliver and company would rock too i think.

Once again, I am reminded of this film.

I saw this as a kid, forgot about it, and then remembered it again during an interview between John Kricfalusi and Mike Judge (http://www.inthe80s.com/july1995/animate/beavis.html), which had this exchange:

Quote
MIKE: Yeah, it's the exact same thing. You want to know a Disney movie I really hate? It's that one that has ... what's it called? It was made in the early '80s and it's about this dog in Manhattan.

JOHN: Oliver? The one that was supposed to be like a Ralph Bakshi movie?

MIKE: This tape I play for my kid has that on it-it's one of those Disney sing-along tapes.

JOHN: Oh, you mean when your kid's bad it's to punish her.

 :D

Not a fan of the movie, either.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Tarantulas on September 08, 2006, 12:47:59 PM
Ok.. meet the animation thing half way w/ "Cool World"
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 08, 2006, 01:00:46 PM
Ok.. meet the animation thing half way w/ "Cool World"

I've been holding out on that, since I'm worried that Mike wouldn't go easy on the director. I mean, yeah, it's a pretty crappy film, but what can you do? The studio messed it up. It was supposed to be an animated horror film, but the producer tried to turn it into Who Boinked Roger Rabbit or something like that.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: McThornbody on September 08, 2006, 09:03:37 PM
hmm seems that there was a Lord of the Rings flick that was animated. Seems it from the 70's. Half way through though they ran out of money and used old war footage colored over to finish it. Can't remember the name since i am not a LOR's fan.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2006, 09:12:48 AM
Correction: that wasn't stock footage: that was shot directly for the film, and the reason they had live-action merged with animation on that was an artistic choice, not a budgetary choice. I thought the movie was excellent, BTW.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: jammindude on September 09, 2006, 09:49:34 AM
Correction: that wasn't stock footage: that was shot directly for the film, and the reason they had live-action merged with animation on that was an artistic choice, not a budgetary choice. I thought the movie was excellent, BTW.


I actually really enjoyed that flick....until the end.    But I heard that THAT *was* budgetary.     Meaning....they did the story line for FOTR and TTT, and suddenly got the ROTK and realized they were out of money, so they had to wrap up the final part of the trilogy in like, ten minutes.       

So now I find it unwatchable...just because I know that all the good stuff is going to lead up to a steamy pile of an ending.    VERY anti-climactic....
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2006, 10:20:30 AM
I actually really enjoyed that flick....until the end.    But I heard that THAT *was* budgetary.     Meaning....they did the story line for FOTR and TTT, and suddenly got the ROTK and realized they were out of money, so they had to wrap up the final part of the trilogy in like, ten minutes.

The director himself confirmed that this story is untrue. It was originally supposed to be three films, then it was negotiated down to two films, and then United Artists released the first film as "The Lord of the Rings," instead of "The Lord of the Rings: Part One," as it was supposed to be, and then they refused to fund the sequel.

In order to cover this fact up later on, when the rights went to Time/Warner (who had purchased the catalog of Saul Zaentz, who produced the film), they went and overdubbed the alternate narrative over the film's climatic ending. It originally had the narration after the ending, and the announcement was that a sequel would come later. But as you know, this didn't work out too well.

And then Rankin/Bass aired their version of "The Return of the King" in May, 1980, and it was too late for them to change their minds. United Artists folded in November, after the box-office bomb "Heaven's Gate."
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: jammindude on September 09, 2006, 11:05:17 AM
Wow....did not know that.   

Explains alot.

But wasn't UA still in existence when (shockingly popular) Rocky 3 was released?   circa 1983?   Or did UA just get bought up by someone else?
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2006, 12:07:50 PM
After Heaven's Gate, UA was sold to MGM, which was eventually bought by Turner Entertainment, which was bought by Time/Warner. The MGM catalog is now owned by Sony (although 20th Century Fox now has distribution rights), although certain titles are owned by other companies.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 09, 2006, 01:09:41 PM
Thats a lot of talk about who owns what crappy movies
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Rube_Maroon on September 09, 2006, 04:44:41 PM
I am with pakman for Shrek. Awful piece of shit. The popularity of this crap genuinely makes me weep.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 26, 2006, 02:26:02 AM
Any of the non-Pixar cookie-cutter CGI movies would work....

I recently saw a UK CGI-animated film, Valiant (although the writing was so poor it could easily be mistaken for an American production with British actors). All the while I was watching it, I couldn't help but feel that it could be improved by Mike's riffing. Not only because I hated the flick, but because it has so many moments where a riff or two could be thrown in.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: JonnyFrag on September 27, 2006, 06:43:07 AM
I think you guys may be missing a classic one that is really great for riffing, if you are actually going with animation.

All Dogs go to Heaven.

Think of all the folks' voices in that one.

It's like being able to riff Cannonball Run , but with DOGS!

You know, I bet thats how that was pitched originally.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 27, 2006, 07:37:34 AM
lol cannonball run would be great too

but your right all dogs go to heaven would be PERFECT.  even the whole doggy hell thing was hilarious. 
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: hamstar on September 27, 2006, 09:23:59 AM
It would not interest me in the least. Due to the already disembodied nature of RT a cartoon would just not hold my attention.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: jewishcarpenter on September 27, 2006, 10:27:06 AM
I don't know if anyone could sit through this even with really good riffing from Mike, Kevin and Bill.
Titanic: The Animated Movie
So horrible.... so horrible. Talking animals.
Edited to add -It says a lot when an animated movie can be considered worse than the actual disaster it's based off of.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: SaucyRossy on September 27, 2006, 10:33:39 AM
I agree Cool World would be a nice halfway point for riffing on animation....

As for Shrek and other CGI movies...I think the obvious choice would be the first Final Fantasy movie.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 27, 2006, 10:47:42 AM
All Dogs go to Heaven.

Yeah, I hate Don Bluth. He's only made two good pictures, in my opinion: "Secret of N.I.M.H." and "An American Tail."

The problem with Bluth is not only that he tries to make films based on a really watered down version of the Disney formula, but he tries to make depressing films based on a really watered down version of the Disney formula. So he makes watered down, depressing Disney movies. Except that it's not Disney.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 27, 2006, 11:22:21 AM
secret of nihm was great, and creepy as hell, if we are gonna go that route i say the dark crystal. 
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on October 20, 2006, 01:56:53 PM
On November 7th, they rerelease Transformers: The Movie on a nifty new DVD.

This movie, while animated, fits VERY well into the Rifftrax fodder we've seen so far. It's got guns a-blazing, cheesy dialogue, and, if riffed, would bring in a massive following of Transformers fans (And we are LEGION!)

So if Rifftrax is looking for a chance to do animation, might I suggest starting here?
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Cap'n UKRiffer on October 20, 2006, 02:38:10 PM
On November 7th, they rerelease Transformers: The Movie on a nifty new DVD.

This movie, while animated, fits VERY well into the Rifftrax fodder we've seen so far. It's got guns a-blazing, cheesy dialogue, and, if riffed, would bring in a massive following of Transformers fans (And we are LEGION!)

So if Rifftrax is looking for a chance to do animation, might I suggest starting here?

Not my beloved Transformers  :'( (Is a TransFans as well as a MSTie)

I don't think i could take Mike riffing on Optimus Prime...
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: mrbasehart on October 20, 2006, 07:45:18 PM
I don't think i could take Mike riffing on Optimus Prime...

"Optimus Prime? That was 20 years ago.  He's now Optimus Well-Past-His Prime."  :)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on October 20, 2006, 07:50:52 PM
Heyooooo! :^) Yeah I'm a big time Transfan myself, but if you take off the nostalgia goggles, there's a lot there to be made funny (And what Transformers-Addict doesn't wanna see Wheelie get riffed!? :^))
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Justin on October 20, 2006, 09:56:20 PM
I rented a CG straight-to-video movie called Kaena: The Prophecy.  It's not too bad, but it's very riffable.  Kaena's voiced by Kirsten Dunst (or as I call her: "The Problem with the Spiderman Franchise").

But I'm totally with everyone on Final Fantasy:TSW and Akira.  It's hard to think of anime films that are well-known, riffable and readily available.  Ghost In the Shell

Can we split the difference on the animation and suggest Space Jam and Looney Toons: Back In Action?

How about A Scanner Darkly?  Animation and Keanu.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on October 21, 2006, 04:18:16 AM
How about A Scanner Darkly?  Animation and Keanu.

A serious movie about the negative effects of drug use (I mean, a realistic portrayal of the negative effects of drug use, not an over-the-top exaggeration, like Reefer Madness) would be too depressing to mock. Plus, it's from the excellent Phillip K. Dick novel. Keanu or not, the movie would never fit the RiffTrax mold. Sorry.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on October 21, 2006, 10:39:30 AM
im still not sure if there is ANYThing that doesnt fit the mold. 
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Cibernético II on October 21, 2006, 10:50:59 AM
Adam Sandler's Craptastic "8 Crazy Nights" definately deserves to be riffed. But it might be a difficult one because A) it's comedy and comedies don't work quite as well B) most of the characters are already being made fun of and C) Adam's Sandler's voices are so annoying that even a good riff may not be enough bandage for the pain of watching
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on October 21, 2006, 10:56:59 AM
yeah that was a really really lame movie, what the crap was he thinking.  he should have stuck to the water oy and happy gilmore type movies.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: servo106 on October 21, 2006, 11:20:38 AM
Quite a few animated features worth riffing on. Here are a few just of the top of my head.

Titan AE
The Bakshi Lord Of the Rings..Actually you know what Bakshi's entire filmography would be great.
Princess Mononoke (which I actually like however, I think it could be a REALLY fun Rifftrax)
Space Jam
The Point would be way too obscure, but I would love to see that one.
Metroplis would also be really fun.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: shortstack on October 21, 2006, 01:35:47 PM
I don't know if anyone could sit through this even with really good riffing from Mike, Kevin and Bill.
Titanic: The Animated Movie
So horrible.... so horrible. Talking animals.
Edited to add -It says a lot when an animated movie can be considered worse than the actual disaster it's based off of.

I haven't seen it personally, but it was shown as the 'worse animated film ever' at our local con's 'anime hell'.  I researched it a bit and found that it was originally in italian, and about 20 minutes of it was cut out (which probably included the ending).

I think Titan AE would be a good candidate, and Bakshi's LOTR (which I've always been iffy about).  Or you could go with other freaks of nature like "Scooby-Doo Meets Batman" (I own it- painfully hilarious) or the recent "Legend of Frosty the Snowman" (where Frosty sounds borderline retarded).
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on October 21, 2006, 07:53:04 PM
The Bakshi Lord Of the Rings..Actually you know what Bakshi's entire filmography would be great.

Mike wants to do Peter Jackson's LOTR at one point, which I'd actually rather see riffed than Bakshi's.

Given that Mike's a clean comedian, I wouldn't expect him to sit down and riff on any of Bakshi's R or X-rated films (plus, the subject matter explored in Ralph Bakshi's work would make anyone fairly uncomfortable; I can't see how that would work for a comedy track), which doesn't leave much ("Fire and Ice" and "Wizards" aren't as widely available as say, "Crossroads" or "Road House").
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: shortstack on October 21, 2006, 11:56:50 PM
The Bakshi Lord Of the Rings..Actually you know what Bakshi's entire filmography would be great.

Mike wants to do Peter Jackson's LOTR at one point, which I'd actually rather see riffed than Bakshi's.

Given that Mike's a clean comedian, I wouldn't expect him to sit down and riff on any of Bakshi's R or X-rated films (plus, the subject matter explored in Ralph Bakshi's work would make anyone fairly uncomfortable; I can't see how that would work for a comedy track), which doesn't leave much ("Fire and Ice" and "Wizards" aren't as widely available as say, "Crossroads" or "Road House").

What about American Pop? I don't know about you, but out where I am, Wal-Mart seems to have a surplus of them in their bargain bins. Mind you, I don't consider it a very riffable movie- I tend to think that it's Bakshi's best work (mostly historical), but that's just me.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Jinto on November 26, 2006, 02:33:07 PM
I'll throw in my vote for Transformers the Movie as well.

Ghost in the Shell might also be a good, if you wanted Rifftrax to do an anime film. It's probably more widely known than most other anime titles, besides Akira, which might be a bit much to deal with perhaps.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on December 01, 2006, 11:07:53 AM
I'll throw in my vote for Transformers the Movie as well.

Ghost in the Shell might also be a good, if you wanted Rifftrax to do an anime film. It's probably more widely known than most other anime titles, besides Akira, which might be a bit much to deal with perhaps.

Ghost in the Shell will be too difficult to understand for those who've not seen it before. It would make more sense to riff an animated movie more people have seen.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on December 01, 2006, 11:11:04 AM
Riffing movies that don't make sense to most people can be fun. :^) Befuddled astonishment can make a great riff all by itself. Look at the MST3K version of Jack Frost. :^)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Jinto on December 01, 2006, 03:21:44 PM
Ghost in the Shell will be too difficult to understand for those who've not seen it before. It would make more sense to riff an animated movie more people have seen.
Riffing movies that don't make sense to most people can be fun. :^) Befuddled astonishment can make a great riff all by itself. Look at the MST3K version of Jack Frost. :^)

I agree that understanding the movie isn't a really essential when you're making fun of it to begin with. Anyway, my opinion that Ghost in the Shell would be good was based first on the assumption that IF you wanted the animated movie to specifically be an anime title, THEN you have to consider two primary factors:
1)Which anime movie would stand a chance of even having its name recognized by anyone that is NOT already familiar with anime in general.
2)Would it then be popular enough for people to own it already, or at least be fairly accessible to people to rent at a local store? (despite Netflix, local movie rental stores still get a lot of business.) This will depend greatly on where you live. Most video rental stores where I live do NOT have any more than the sporadic anime title, half of which seem to end up being one DVD out of 5 or 6 of a tv series.

The best candidates then, in my opinion, are Akira and Ghost in the Shell, which have been around long enough (and were popular enough back in the day) to have had a chance to seep into general culture via fanboy word-of-mouth. Most other anime films are still too new and unmarketed to anyone outside the anime fan culture to be widely recognized, even if they are good films (like Metropolis for example). This of course excludes Ghibli films, which Disney made sure everyone heard about rather quickly, but I don't think any Ghibli film would make for a good riff. Two exceptions to the word-of-mouth and Disney-backed advertising methods, would be Final Fantasy: the Spirits Within, since it actually made it to a lot of theaters in the US, and maybe the Cowboy Bebop movie, since the Cowboy Bebop TV series was one of the most popular anime series ever to hit the US that was also enjoyable to "normal people" (i.e. didn't put them off with bizarro-world monster pets or make them feel like pedo's watching teenage girls transform magically, not to mention scantily, into "soldiers" that battle evil in ridiculous looking outfits, etc. etc. )

So as it stands, the number of anime titles that would have a chance of being riffed are slim (given the market recognition/acceptance limitations) to none (given that it seems Mike and crew aren't really keen on anime, or even animated titles of Disney or Pixar fame in general according to what I've heard thus far. So this is all just academic anyway I suppose.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: daltysmilth on December 01, 2006, 03:42:20 PM
If you want a good anime film to riff, you should go for Ninja Scroll.  It just begs for it.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Jinto on December 01, 2006, 04:00:09 PM
If you want a good anime film to riff, you should go for Ninja Scroll.  It just begs for it.

Ninja Scroll is incredibly bad, I agree. Unfortunately it would also put "normal" people off from watching it, due to the ludicrious inclusion of grotesque, unnatural characters and sorcerous abilities into what could have otherwise, potentially, been a decent medieval japanese feudal setting and story. Plus it's just not that well known outside anime circles.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on December 01, 2006, 05:22:30 PM
Mayhaps an Inuyasha movie. It's just bizzare enough to work. :^)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Jinto on December 01, 2006, 06:22:59 PM
Mayhaps an Inuyasha movie. It's just bizzare enough to work. :^)

I was about to ask you if you really thought people who took 167 episodes to "finish" a story could actually make a movie of only 2 hours... but apparently they made a number of them.  :P  heh, can't imagine they're very good though. the series always looked pretty tame from the episodes I saw. I'd be surprised if they managed to inject anything better than yawn-worthy story-telling in them.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on December 01, 2006, 06:23:49 PM
There is some very adult subject matter in Ninja Scroll, much moreso than Road House. I don't see that as a possible riff based on its adult content.

I don't know how it is in many other states, but in both Oklahoma and Texas, you can walk in to any Best Buy store and find an entire aisle of nothing but Anime films and TV shows.

Now Akira would be a good riff if they used the English Dub from back in the early 90s. The voices were so rediculous, and the translation was very stupid, completely changing much of the story to fit the english voices. That one deserves a good riffing. They changed the Colonel's voice from a very deep Japanese voice to a high pitch, squeaky American voice. Stupid.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Jinto on December 01, 2006, 07:08:53 PM
There is some very adult subject matter in Ninja Scroll, much moreso than Road House. I don't see that as a possible riff based on its adult content.

Now Akira would be a good riff if they used the English Dub from back in the early 90s.

oooh, bad-dub Akira. heh. I still have that version myself. good ol' VHS  :P  (only the corrected version made it to DVD thankfully)

Even Akira had some pretty tough subject matters though. The cheesy moments aside,
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That makes me think of a couple of scenes in Jin-Roh actually.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: mrbasehart on December 02, 2006, 07:53:06 AM
You're all wrong.  Legend of the Overfiend would be an awesome rifftrax.   ;D
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on December 02, 2006, 08:26:38 AM
You're all wrong.  Legend of the Overfiend would be an awesome rifftrax.   ;D

You're right!

Everyone's already has a copy of it, and is completely *not* prudish! heh


Fun for the whole family!!!


(good one, Mr. B!  :D)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Dirty Smelly Anteater on December 03, 2006, 01:47:48 PM
I don't really think riffing comedies is a great idea, though I think it's an experiment they should at least try at some point.  A whole lot of animated films (basically all of Pixar's, and most other CG films) fall at least partially into the comedy bin.  I think to do animation well, you'd have to go after something that takes itself way too seriously, so I have a couple suggests.  One, Dinosaur from a couple years back.  Big-budget Disney, stupid plot, and just preachy enough to work.  My second pick is a bit older, Ferngully: The Last Rainforest.  It doesn't get more "message"-y than this.  Plus, it's just so stupid at times.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: excalibear on December 04, 2006, 02:03:10 AM
You know what desperately needs to be riffed?

Disney's Pocahontas
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Sharktopus on December 04, 2006, 02:07:23 AM
I finally got around to putting my new Transformers: The Movie DVD in the other night, and as I sat down, the mp3 player with which I play RiffTrax caught my eye. As my nostalgia quickly washed away, I found myself desperately wanting to switch on the mp3 player in the illogical hope that a Transformers Riff had magically appeared on it.

Man, that movie sucks. And I really like Transformers.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Pak-Man on December 04, 2006, 02:08:34 AM
Aww, TF:TM wasn't BAD. It was just a TOTAL product of the '80s. I miss cartoons trying to sell toys. :^)
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: excalibear on December 04, 2006, 02:13:24 AM
Disney's Pocahontas

All Dogs Go To Heaven

The Last Unicorn

Tom and Jerry The Movie

The Black Cauldron

Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame

The Chipmunk Adventure

Mulan

The Year Without Santa Claus


These, my friends, are all animated films dying to be riffed
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Sharktopus on December 04, 2006, 02:30:02 AM
Aww, TF:TM wasn't BAD. It was just a TOTAL product of the '80s. I miss cartoons trying to sell toys. :^)

I can overlook killing off virtually every character so they could introduce new toys, but they could have at least introduced characters that didn't suck. Optimus tells Ultra Magnus that the matrix will light the Autobots' darkest hour. So what does Ultra Magnus do? Whip the matrix out and practically hand it to Galvatron. Ultra Magnus, getting your ass handed to you is not "the Autobots' darest hour." That movie killed anybody who would've been worthy of the matrix of leadership.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Justin on December 04, 2006, 10:13:26 PM
Maybe the He-man/She-ra Christmas Special.

"But I don't want to feel good!  I want to feel evil!" - Skeletor
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Sharktopus on December 04, 2006, 11:10:24 PM
Maybe the He-man/She-ra Christmas Special.

"But I don't want to feel good!  I want to feel evil!" - Skeletor

You have to appreciate Skeletor's self-awareness. Most villains don't accept that they're evil, but ol' Skelly just goes with the flow.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: RaoulDuke on December 05, 2006, 06:42:04 PM
how about the old ralph bacchi lotr cartoon or heavy metal
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: zoidbergMD on December 06, 2006, 12:12:49 PM
The Prince of Egypt, anyone?
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: Dirty Smelly Anteater on December 17, 2006, 01:24:18 AM
I have some experience with the show, and after seeing adult swim advertise the heck out of them I'd have to say, any of the "Inuyasha" moveis would be awesome.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: shortstack on December 19, 2006, 08:03:22 AM
The Prince of Egypt, anyone?

I'm all for that.

Or anything from the 70s that had no right being a cartoon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKN_yjoDTCY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdG3K90LSDs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXpIDxO4VeM

Not very easy to find, mind you.
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: KingOfShippers on December 19, 2006, 05:17:45 PM
how about the godawful peace of crap known as The Black Cauldron truly the worst Disney movie ever made the acting was terrible and the little furry guy gave me the feeling he may have inspired Jar-Jar Binks
Title: Re: Animation Worth Riffing?
Post by: ekublai on December 19, 2006, 10:23:47 PM
Shrek has possibilities. Does anyone remember the name of those awful Scooby Doo movies they show to death on Cartoon Network? The one where Shaggy's a werewolf and has to win a race would be awesome. :^)

dude that's my favorite scooby doo movie of all time.