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Title: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 06:58:11 PM
Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters

Greetings again, my friends and fellow nerds. Here we meet again to discuss the results of our findings. From each of us, a list was contributed. 25 Science Fiction characters, the greatest of all, were ranked on this list. The number one pick selected, no doubt through much scientific scrutiny to determine his or her value, was worth 25 points, number 2 was worth 24 points, and so on. This system proving to be flawless, I now present to you, the Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters.


And some extra ones thrown in for fun.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 06:59:08 PM
# 50- The Brigadier

(28 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Doctor Who? And Compound
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/brigadier-01.jpg)

Full Name: Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart
From: Doctor Who (Early Doctors)
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Scientific Advisor for UNIT
Known For: “Facing the unknown with unflappable British aplomb.”
                                Having a Mustache (or so it seems to me from his photo)
Sci Fi Themes: Military action over passive or intelligent strategy


Dossier: Born an orphan, made a man in WW2, and then the head of the UK’s  permanent military intelligence group with rapid-reaction capabilities, which investigates alien and other unusual phenomena which might threaten the security of the nation….or whatever that means. Based on what I do know about the Doctor Who-verse, The Brigadier almost seems like the precursor to Captain Jack.

Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 07:00:02 PM
#49 – John Locke

(29 Points) 4 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Invader Quirk, Cole Stratton, D. B. Barnes, Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/john-locke.jpg)

Full Name: John Locke
From: Lost
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Box Factory Worker, Island Prophet, Tryer of Killing Jacob
Known For: Being the “man of faith” on the island versus Jack Shepard’s “man of science”
Sci Fi Themes: Faith vs. Science, Why “blind faith” is bad, the irresistible power of bald men in sci fi shows.


Dossier: Child of a jerkface con man and a crazy woman, John Locke has always had a destiny to be on that Lost island. Too bad he was (spoiler) and then he (spoiler), followed by (spoiler). John Locke represents an important philosophical element to the show and was always a fan favorite

Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 07:02:04 PM
#48 – Dr. Lazarus

(29 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Cole Stratton, Imrahil
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/13-Alan-Rickman-Alexander-Dane-Dr-Lazarus-Galaxy-Quest.jpg)

Full Name: Dr. Lazarus of Tev'Meck (Sir Alexander Dane)
From: Galaxy Quest
Planet of Origin: Tev/Meck and Earth
Position: Science Officer...?  Probably that
Known For: Having fish guils for a head, being extremely knowledgeable and scientific, being the classy and well trained actor alongside a hack in reference to someone.
Sci Fi Themes: Elegance in knowledge, Grapthor’s Hammer, Inability to suspend disbelief.
Dossier: a member of an alien species renowned for their intellect, Lazarus has a pretentious catchphrase: "By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged!" and is played by an actor that resents both his catchphrase and being typecast. Also, pretty frickin hilarious!
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 14, 2011, 07:04:26 PM
# 50- The Brigadier

(28 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Doctor Who? And Compound
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/brigadier-01.jpg)

Full Name: Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart
From: Doctor Who (Early Doctors)
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Scientific Advisor for UNIT
Known For: “Facing the unknown with unflappable British aplomb.”
        Having a Mustache (or so it seems to me from his photo)
Sci Fi Themes: Military action over passive or intelligent strategy


Dossier: Born an orphan, mad a man in WW2, and then the head of the UK’s  permanent military intelligence group with rapid-reaction capabilities, which investigates alien and other unusual phenomena which might threaten the security of the nation….or whatever that means. Based on what I do know about the Doctor Who-verse, The Brigadier almost seems like the precursor to Captain Jack.



 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Courtney was a real class act and made even the weakest story(Battlefield)worth watching.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 07:04:49 PM

#47 – The Prisoner

(29 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Johnny Unusual and LucasM
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/prisoner2.jpg)

Full Name: Unknown, but he is also referred to as Number 6
From: The Prisoner
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Ex Secret Agent
Known For: Being trippy and mysterious at the same time, being chased by giant ass bubbles, and being parodied by Homer Simpson
Sci Fi Themes: Utopia, Dystopia, Controlled Identity, Big Ass Bubbles

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/prisoner1.jpg)
Dossier: Little is known of Number 6’s life before the show begins. Instead, the show focuses on how the antagonists reacts to the surrealism he is in. Also, later he was turned into the guy that played Jesus in Passion of the Christ.
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/prisoner3.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 07:05:38 PM
#46 – Sam Beckett

(30 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Gunflyer, Compound, Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/sam.gif)

Full Name: Samuel John Beckett
From: Quantum Leap
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Time Traveller, Do Gooder
Known For: Saying “Oh Boy” in a comical manner after “leaping” into new situations, not taking advantage of his position to get laid and/or look at hot chicks (much to Al’s chagrin), getting a big middle finger from God in the series finales
Sci Fi Themes: Changing history, the morality of changing history, how Al gets so many chicks
Dossier: Sam Beckett was born in Indiana. He was super smart, had a brother who died in Vietnam, a sister who married an abusive husband, and a father who died of heart disease. Oh wait, no he didn’t, because he ignored his own rules to make his life better but didn’t do the same for Al….actually, maybe the ending of the series was justified.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
Special Category: Biggest Horndog Scifi Character – Al

(0 Points) 1 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/al.jpg)

Full Name: Rear Admiral Upper Half Albert “Al” Calavicci
From: Quantum Leap
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Sam Beckett’s Gal Friday, Hologram, Comic Relief
Known For: Abusing Sam’s position to see pretty ladies, hitting his hand held device
Sci Fi Themes: Visual representation to matter projected through time and space
Dossier: Al had a pretty hard knock life. Orphaned because his mom died and his Dad couldn’t handle the stress, had to take care of a sister with Down Syndrome, went to Nam, got tortured, came back to find his wife had….ya know what, let’s focus less on that and more on the fact that Al’s multi-layered past was always there to inspire Sam to do the right thing. Go Al!
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 14, 2011, 07:13:31 PM
GAH! I can't believe I forgot to include Quantum Leap characters on my list! I loved that show as a kid.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 14, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
Special Category: Biggest Horndog Scifi Character – Al

(0 Points) 1 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/al.jpg)

Full Name: Rear Admiral Upper Half Albert “Al” Calavicci
From: Quantum Leap
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Sam Beckett’s Gal Friday, Hologram, Comic Relief
Known For: Abusing Sam’s position to see pretty ladies, hitting his hand held device
Sci Fi Themes: Visual representation to matter projected through time and space
Dossier: Al had a pretty hard knock life. Orphaned because his mom died and his Dad couldn’t handle the stress, had to take care of a sister with Down Syndrome, went to Nam, got tortured, came back to find his wife had….ya know what, let’s focus less on that and more on the fact that Al’s multi-layered past was always there to inspire Sam to do the right thing. Go Al!


I'm pretty sure Captain Jack is a bigger horndog then this guy,he would sleep with the kitchen sink if the censors would allow it.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 07:14:30 PM
Well, he was one of my special votes. You have some too :)
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 14, 2011, 07:18:46 PM
Al is awesome. He's kinda like me, except he's more faithful. :D
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 14, 2011, 07:19:56 PM
GAME ON!!!

#49 – John Locke

Cool! I wasn't sure if he was going to make it. Four lists! Locke is such a great character. Completely made the final season for me.


#47 – The Prisoner


I completely spaced on this one. Dammit.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 14, 2011, 07:26:05 PM
#47 – The Prisoner

Just don't forget the dignified, legendary sport of kings... KOSHO!!!!
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 14, 2011, 07:48:58 PM

# 50- The Brigadier

(28 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Doctor Who? And Compound
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/brigadier-01.jpg)

Full Name: Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart
Ooh, good start.

#49 – John Locke

(29 Points) 4 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Invader Quirk, Cole Stratton, D. B. Barnes, Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/john-locke.jpg)

Full Name: John Locke

Never seen the show yet.  Someday.

#48 – Dr. Lazarus

(29 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Cole Stratton, Imrahil
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/13-Alan-Rickman-Alexander-Dane-Dr-Lazarus-Galaxy-Quest.jpg)

Full Name: Dr. Lazarus of Tev'Meck (Sir Alexander Dane)
Didn't think of this one.  Galaxy Quest was a fantastic movie.


#47 – The Prisoner

(29 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Johnny Unusual and LucasM
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/prisoner2.jpg)

Full Name: Unknown, but he is also referred to as Number 6
[
I watched the Prisoner for the first time recently, and it is amazing.  A brilliant take on individualism vs. collectivism.  And though the show only lasted one season and most of the episodes are stand alone, there is a great arc to his character: for the first half of the series (though episode order has been debated) the Prisoner is trying to find an escape, with each episode finding him failing.  However, as the show goes on he decides to change his strategy and let the Village and #2 strike first, after which he completely turns the crazy situation of the week around on them.  Hell, in a brilliant satire of spy conventions he defeats one #2 by basically acting suspicious, as if he has a big plan.  #2, already a control freak, becomes convinced that he's losing control... which causes him to do just that.  Now this #2, the nastiest and most aggressive of the series ends as a blubbering child, completely manipulated by the Prisoner into admitting his failure to #1.

Oh, and my favourite #2: Leo McKern.
http://www.youtube.com/v/zalndXdxriI
http://www.youtube.com/v/ato5NS9dW0A

#46 – Sam Beckett

(30 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Gunflyer, Compound, Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/sam.gif)

He probably wouldn't have made my list, but a damned good choice.  On Nerdist, I heard the best idea ever: hire Dean Stockwell to follow Scott Bakula for the day as Al, bothering him with certain things he needs to do to set things right!

#47 – The Prisoner


I completely spaced on this one. Dammit.

Yeah, I wish he placed higher, but I'm glad he's on the list.  He definitely deserves to be there.

#47 – The Prisoner

Just don't forget the dignified, legendary sport of kings... KOSHO!!!!
Teehee.  I love Kosho!  Especially since I used to own a trampoline.

http://www.youtube.com/v/NTqAfJYWe58

Good list so far, but I'd like to see who gave the highest vote for each entry.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 08:00:24 PM
Ok i will start doing that tomorrow
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Invader_quirk on August 14, 2011, 08:36:23 PM
I coulda sworn I voted for Alexander Dane. I didn't save my list after I arranged it so I can't be sure, but it's worth checking perhaps?
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 14, 2011, 08:41:03 PM
#47 – The Prisoner


I completely spaced on this one. Dammit.

Yeah, I wish he placed higher, but I'm glad he's on the list.  He definitely deserves to be there.

I hate this! It happens at least once on every list.  I feel like I'm letting down the people who remembered.  >:(
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 14, 2011, 09:22:59 PM
I coulda sworn I voted for Alexander Dane. I didn't save my list after I arranged it so I can't be sure, but it's worth checking perhaps?

Yes, you had him at 25. Let me double check the points tomorrow
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 15, 2011, 12:49:50 AM
Cool, list has already started. Nothing from me yet, though more because it's all stuff I haven't watched so far (well, back in the early days when I watched Lost, I was all over John Locke. He kicked serious ass. Though as I dropped out of the show sometime in Season 3, he slowly faded from memory... until he remained just the Stepfather once more).

Can't wait to see what's next!
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 15, 2011, 05:43:37 AM
The Brigadier almost seems like the precursor to Captain Jack.
Chap in the Club, I'll give him five rounds rapid....
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Invader_quirk on August 15, 2011, 06:23:32 AM
#49 – John Locke


John Locke is not only one of the most interesting characters in recent history...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: goflyblind on August 15, 2011, 08:32:03 AM
the Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters.

13616? that'll be a pretty long list.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 15, 2011, 09:10:57 AM
the Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters.

13616? that'll be a pretty long list.

Yeah. I think you mean 110010.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 15, 2011, 09:13:56 AM
I think she meant to put the right number but got caught up doing a binary solo. ;)
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 15, 2011, 09:48:35 AM
I think she meant to put the right number but got caught up doing a binary solo. ;)


That was the number the generator gave me.....
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 15, 2011, 09:59:09 AM
I think she meant to put the right number but got caught up doing a binary solo. ;)


That was the number the generator gave me.....

A generator gave you a number with two leading zeroes? You got scammed, foo'.
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 15, 2011, 10:34:27 AM
Here is the web page

http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

I put in 50 as the text to encode
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: goflyblind on August 15, 2011, 10:56:21 AM
Here is the web page

http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

I put in 50 as the text to encode

ah, well there's the problem. that converted the characters 5 and 0 into binary, not the number fifty.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=fifty+in+binary
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 15, 2011, 10:57:05 AM
Here is the web page

http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

I put in 50 as the text to encode

ah, well there's the problem. that converted the characters 5 and 0 into binary, not the number fifty.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=fifty+in+binary


Well then it's still technically correct  :P
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 15, 2011, 01:16:59 PM
That explains the leading zeroes as well, as it would be two sets of 8 bits (i.e., 2 bytes)
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 15, 2011, 01:34:06 PM
Anyway....nerds, tell me what number I should use and I will update :)
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 15, 2011, 01:35:58 PM
 110010
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 15, 2011, 01:37:26 PM
110010

Done :)
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 15, 2011, 01:47:02 PM
110010

Done :)

I still prefer the Binary Solo.

http://www.youtube.com/v/CTjolEUj00g?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 15, 2011, 01:48:07 PM
Well thanks Pan for that! I didn't think it was that bad/obscure a reference. :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 15, 2011, 05:29:54 PM
#45 – Yoda

(30 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 10 (D.B. Barnes) Voted by: PakMan, Gofyblind, D. B. Barnes
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Yoda_SWSB.jpg)

Full Name: Yoda….Y—O—D—A…Yoda
From: Star Wars
Planet of Origin: Yoda's race and home world have never been stated in any media, canonical or otherwise, and he is merely stated to be of a "species unknown" by the Star Wars Databank…. (I TOTALLY never knew that! Neat)
Position: Jedi Mah-sta
Known For: Convincing people to think that stupid-ass excuse for syntax he calls a language is cute, saying some awesome one-liners.

Sci Fi Themes: Judging people not by one’s size, ultimate control over one’s environment, living in a swamp is the secret to long lasting life.

Dossier: As just recently discovered by the interviewer (through Wikipedia), not much is known about Yoda. But I recall the following story:
I met him in a swamp down in Dagobah
Where it bubbles all the time like a giant carbonated soda
S-O-D-A, soda

I saw the little runt sitting there on a log
I asked him his name and in a raspy voice he said "Yoda"
Y-O-D-A, Yoda
Yo-yo-yo-yo Yoda
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 15, 2011, 05:34:30 PM
#44 – Zapp Brannigan

(31 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 7 (Anais.T.Kirk) Voted by: D. B. Barnes, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zapp.jpg)

Full Name: Captain, 25 Star General, Rear Brigadier, General Major Webelo, and Commodore 64 Zapp Brannigan
From: Futurama
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Incompetent Captain, Leela’s Ex-Looover, Author of “Zapp Brannigan’s Little Book of War”
Known For: Hyperbolizing the negative, and therefore comical, elements of Captain James T. Kirk….also, suffering from a very sexy learning disability.
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zapp2.jpg)

Sci Fi Themes: Incompetence is sexy, the amazing ability of sci-fi captains to escape a little too often.

Dossier:
Zapp Brannigan’s heroic feets include, but are not limited to:
•   Carpet bombed Eden 7
•   Defeated the pacifists of the Gandhi nebula
•   Conquered the Retiree People of the Assisted Living Nebula
•   Single-handedly defeated the "weak and womanlike" Spiderians of Tarantulon 6
•   Defeated the Killbots in the Auctlian system
•   Mated with a woman
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zapp3.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 15, 2011, 05:38:39 PM
#44 –  Commander/William Adama

(31 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 14 – (Adama 1987) by Doctor Who? / Number 8 by Anais.T.Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/adama.jpg)
 

  (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/adama2.jpg)
Ok, I totally misread Doctor Who’s list. Technically, I don’t think Commander Adama and William Adama are the same, but it would be a huge hassle to re-do the calculations (because I don’t have my list anymore and I don’t think you guys want to wait for it)

Full Name: Commander Adama / Admiral William “Husker” Adama
From: Battlestar Gallactica (Both)
Planet of Origin: Caprica
Position: Captain of the aforementioned Battlestar Gallactica, owner of a bitchin ‘stach (new series only)
Known For: Being a fair and beloved leader with almost unquestioned authority (both series)

Sci Fi Themes: The pressure of leadership in a science fiction environment, the importance of spirituality among leaders, the importance of political knowledge among leaders (all around awesome guy)

Dossier: Both Adama’s were Captain of “Battlestar Gallactica” a battleship that (for the majority of the series), was believed to be the only surviving people of the second Cyclon attack.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 15, 2011, 05:43:56 PM
#44 –  Commander/William Adama

(31 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 14 – (Adama 1987) by Doctor Who? / Number 8 by Anais.T.Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/adama.jpg)
 

  (http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/adama2.jpg)
Ok, I totally misread Doctor Who’s list. Technically, I don’t think Commander Adama and William Adama are the same, but it would be a huge hassle to re-do the calculations (because I don’t have my list anymore and I don’t think you guys want to wait for it)

Full Name: Commander Adama / Admiral William “Husker” Adama
From: Battlestar Gallactica (Both)
Planet of Origin: Caprica
Position: Captain of the aforementioned Battlestar Gallactica, owner of a bitchin ‘stach (new series only)
Known For: Being a fair and beloved leader with almost unquestioned authority (both series)

Sci Fi Themes: The pressure of leadership in a science fiction environment, the importance of spirituality among leaders, the importance of political knowledge among leaders (all around awesome guy)

Dossier: Both Adama’s were Captain of “Battlestar Gallactica” a battleship that (for the majority of the series), was believed to be the only surviving people of the second Cyclon attack.


That's fine.  I will just make it clear I voted for the 78 version of the character.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 15, 2011, 05:58:12 PM
#44 – Zapp Brannigan

(31 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 7 (Anais.T.Kirk) Voted by: D. B. Barnes, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zapp.jpg)

Full Name: Captain, 25 Star General, Rear Brigadier, General Major Webelo, and Commodore 64 Zapp Brannigan
From: Futurama
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Incompetent Captain, Leela’s Ex-Looover, Author of “Zapp Brannigan’s Little Book of War”
Known For: Hyperbolizing the negative, and therefore comical, elements of Captain James T. Kirk….also, suffering from a very sexy learning disability.
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zapp2.jpg)

Sci Fi Themes: Incompetence is sexy, the amazing ability of sci-fi captains to escape a little too often.

Dossier:
Zapp Brannigan’s heroic feets include, but are not limited to:
•   Carpet bombed Eden 7
•   Defeated the pacifists of the Gandhi nebula
•   Conquered the Retiree People of the Assisted Living Nebula
•   Single-handedly defeated the "weak and womanlike" Spiderians of Tarantulon 6
•   Defeated the Killbots in the Auctlian system
•   Mated with a woman
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zapp3.jpg)
Zap Rowsdauer?
Title: Re: Top 0011010100110000 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 15, 2011, 06:02:24 PM
Excellent (and funny) summaries for the characters, anais.T Kirk!  It makes even reading about characters I don't care about worthwhile.   ;D

#47 – The Prisoner

(29 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Voted by: Johnny Unusual and LucasM

I really wasn't sure any of my selections would get on the final list.  Now (after seeing this, and some of the subsequent winners) I have a bit more hope that more will turn up.  Oh, and :highfive: to JU for also voting for "#6".
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 15, 2011, 06:46:11 PM
  Oh, and :highfive: to JU for also voting for "#6".

HE IS NOT A NUMBER!  HE'S A FREE MAN!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 15, 2011, 07:52:35 PM
  Oh, and :highfive: to JU for also voting for "#6".
HE IS NOT A NUMBER!  HE'S A FREE MAN!

Indeed, most likely - tho never stated - John Drake aka "Danger Man" (in the US aka "Secret Agent", for which there was a hit song with the lyrics, "they're givin' you a number... and takin' 'way your name" a little too 'on the nose' to be ignored as "#6"'s situation).

I suppose I should have referred to him as " 'The Free Man' (from 'The Prisoner') who was repeatedly called #6".  But that's a tad unwieldy. ;)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 15, 2011, 08:04:45 PM
In the last episode, he is simply referred to as "the Prisoner," which is interesting since this was after he escaped.  Someone pointed out that in a way, his battle will go on, but now he's a prisoner to the world at large (still a hopeful ending though, since he seems up to the challenge).  Sort of reminds me of the tagline of the Howard the Duck comics: "Trapped in a World he Never Made."  I always liked that, since it's not just Howard's situation, it's the human condition.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Compound on August 15, 2011, 08:38:08 PM

Indeed, most likely - tho never stated - John Drake aka "Danger Man" (in the US aka "Secret Agent", for which there was a hit song with the lyrics, "they're givin' you a number... and takin' 'way your name" a little too 'on the nose' to be ignored as "#6"'s situation).

Although that was probably a reference to the other spy known by a number: 007.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 15, 2011, 08:46:18 PM

Indeed, most likely - tho never stated - John Drake aka "Danger Man" (in the US aka "Secret Agent", for which there was a hit song with the lyrics, "they're givin' you a number... and takin' 'way your name" a little too 'on the nose' to be ignored as "#6"'s situation).

Although that was probably a reference to the other spy known by a number: 007.
Indeed it was, despite the fact that the song was created for Danger Man.  Still it works.  Personally I think that the Devo version is more fitting for the Prisoner (although their version is really more of a presentation of secret agent as paper pusher).

http://www.youtube.com/v/xfPu51xl7NU
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 15, 2011, 09:16:05 PM
Indeed, most likely - tho never stated - John Drake aka "Danger Man" (in the US aka "Secret Agent", for which there was a hit song with the lyrics, "they're givin' you a number... and takin' 'way your name" a little too 'on the nose' to be ignored as "#6"'s situation).
Although that was probably a reference to the other spy known by a number: 007.
Indeed it was, despite the fact that the song was created for Danger Man.

And though 007 is 'credited' as the source for the line in the tune, truthfully, with 007, the Brit secret service did NOT take away his name per the song: he was still James Bond.  So it simply isn't true of what was supposed to be the line's inspiration.  [i.e. It doesn't really work.]

But I would not be at all surprised to find out that it was that line that helped inspire Patrick McGoohan to come up with the idea for the series 'The Prisoner' in the first place.  I've thought that since I saw the series on PBS in the 70s.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 16, 2011, 05:14:57 AM
Good to see Devo hasn't changed haberdashers.

No no no.  It's totally different.  Their blue now!  That was actually part of a focus group satire for their last album.  They also had fans vote on the songs on the last album (pick 12 of 16 songs) and then put the songs they wanted on the album anyway and added a sticker that said "88% fan approved."
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 16, 2011, 05:20:02 AM
So they didn't do the original tune for Dangerman then:

http://www.youtube.com/v/cLgNPYw9QMw

So much cooler.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 16, 2011, 10:40:58 AM
#45 – Yoda


I dig Yoda. He's a wise and powerful little dude. And the lightsaber duels are just about the only thing worth watching in the prequels. That and Natalie's bare midriff.

#44 – Zapp Brannigan


Yes! Zapp is classic. "We'll write our own bible, with less Sodom and more Gomorrah."

Not that West doesn't do a great voice, but I think Phil Hartman not getting shot by his nutjob wife would've made him even better.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 16, 2011, 11:18:41 AM
I left my laptop at home, so I will have many more tonight :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 16, 2011, 11:35:51 AM
#44 – Zapp Brannigan


Yes! Zapp is classic. "We'll write our own bible, with less Sodom and more Gomorrah."

Not that West doesn't do a great voice, but I think Phil Hartman not getting shot by his nutjob wife would've made him even better.

Yeah, that was a fucking hate crime against humanity.

Well put.

Every time I see him or hear his voice, this wave of sadness and anger crashes on me.  :(  :grr:
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 16, 2011, 12:05:20 PM
#45 – Yoda


I dig Yoda. He's a wise and powerful little dude. And the lightsaber duels are just about the only thing worth watching in the prequels. That and Natalie's bare midriff.

#44 – Zapp Brannigan


Yes! Zapp is classic. "We'll write our own bible, with less Sodom and more Gomorrah."

Not that West doesn't do a great voice, but I think Phil Hartman not getting shot by his nutjob wife would've made him even better.
It would have made a LOT of things better.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 16, 2011, 12:57:54 PM
#44 – Zapp Brannigan
 

I wonder if the other Zap will show up. You know...Rowsdower!

Then again, who's to say that Brannigan isn't "the other Zapp"?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 16, 2011, 01:00:24 PM
Yeah, at that time to me, he was the voice and face of comedy.  I was a huge NewsRadio fan and he was a big part of what made it so great, and his recurring work on the Simpsons was phenomenal ("Well, I lost your case.  Here's the pizza" "But we did win." "That's OK.  The box is empty!").  I can't help thinking about what would have been.  Aside from continuing on the Simpsons, I could have easily seen him working on a Colbert/Between Two Ferns-like show where he acts like a smarmy asshole (it sounds like an insult to say that he's amazing at that, but it is a true gift).
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2011, 01:33:22 PM
#44 – Zapp Brannigan
 
I wonder if the other Zap will show up. You know...Rowsdower!
Then again, who's to say that Brannigan isn't "the other Zapp"?
You mean you've never heard of the Teen sex romp that he starred in? I am not surprised,
it didn't go over very well, it was called "ZAPPED!" and there was even a Zequel called
"ZAPPED AGAIN!" :D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 16, 2011, 04:43:23 PM
#44 – Zapp Brannigan
 
I wonder if the other Zap will show up. You know...Rowsdower!
Then again, who's to say that Brannigan isn't "the other Zapp"?
You mean you've never heard of the Teen sex romp that he starred in? I am not surprised,
it didn't go over very well, it was called "ZAPPED!" and there was even a Zequel called
"ZAPPED AGAIN!" :D

Quite true!  And there was a homemade outrageous and vulgar sex tape that surfaced after those that has had a lot of news coverage.  The media refer to it as 'The Zapp-Ruder Film'.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 16, 2011, 05:00:09 PM
#44 – Zapp Brannigan
 
I wonder if the other Zap will show up. You know...Rowsdower!
Then again, who's to say that Brannigan isn't "the other Zapp"?
You mean you've never heard of the Teen sex romp that he starred in? I am not surprised,
it didn't go over very well, it was called "ZAPPED!" and there was even a Zequel called
"ZAPPED AGAIN!" :D

Quite true!  And there was a homemade outrageous and vulgar sex tape that surfaced after those that has had a lot of news coverage.  The media refer to it as 'The Zapp-Ruder Film'.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fQ-nQ4mC_nE/TaSuIRigEQI/AAAAAAAAEF8/tnsRFW2K44w/s1600/800px-simpsons_angry_mob-copy.png)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 16, 2011, 05:54:39 PM
I'm pleased... there's never been a series of puns that I was a part of that resulted in an angry mob before.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2011, 05:55:24 PM
I'm pleased... there's never been a series of puns that I was a part of that resulted in an angry mob before.  ;D
You know what they're chanting right? "ROWSDAUER SAVES US AND SAVES ALL THE WORRRRLLLLDDD!!!"
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 16, 2011, 06:28:34 PM
#42 – Data

(31 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 6 (FlockofRabidSheep) Voted by: Johnny Unusual, FlockofRabidSheep
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Data_2366.jpg)

Full Name: Lieutenant Commander Data
From: Star Trek: The Next Generation
Planet of Origin: Technically Omicron Theta,  but do androids really have a planet of origin? I mean really
Position: Second Officer and Chief Operations Officer, Comic Relief, Droid

Known For: Yellow skin, somehow having been created with the ability to do “it,” being annoying more than funny

Sci Fi Themes: He’s a frickin android trying to determine how humans act so he can be more like one. What’s more sci fi than that?

Dossier: Created by a man who isn’t Khan (despite the similar last name), named Dr. Noonien Soong, Data has spent his time tyring to be human while offering social commentary on the human race. Apparently, he sacrificed himself to save Picard in one of the movies I never bothered watching.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 16, 2011, 06:29:39 PM
#41 – The Master (not the dude from Buffy or Manos)

(31 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 13 (TripeHoundRedux) Voted by: Doctor Who?, TripeHoundRedux, FlockofRabidSheep
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/master1.jpg)

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Master_with_laser_screwdriver.png)

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/the-master-dr-who-431x300.jpg)



Full Name: Unknown. The Master is merely a name he gave to himself
From: Dr. Who (all)
Planet of Origin: Gallifrey
Position: Antagonist
Known For: Being crazy and wanting to kill the Doctor just because

Sci Fi Themes: The antithesis of the common hero, agelessness, infinite knowledge of time/space creates insanity.

Dossier: A Time Lord from the same planet and school as our hero, David Tennant, The Master is just as intelligent as The Doctor, but has plenty more evil to go around. What his motivation is has never been stated, but he wants The Doctor gone, the world to obey him and, knowing British stereotypes, he loves Tea.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 16, 2011, 06:30:49 PM
#40 – V

(32 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 9 (Johnny Unusual) Voted by: Johnny Unusual, Gunflyer, D. B. Barnes
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/V-For-Vendetta-front-side.jpg)

Full Name: Unknown
From: V for Vendetta
Planet of Origin: Earth (Alternative Reality)
Position: Anarchist and Metaphor
Known For: Wearing a Guy Fawkes mask and being a representation of anarchy and fighting for one’s right (to party)

Sci Fi Themes: The importance of the message over the messager, defeating the evil overlord, the importance of freedom, human experimentation is bad

Dossier: Nothing is known of V’s life before being captured and experimented on in a concentration camp. What is known is that being in concentration camp pissed V off pretty damn bad because he decided to blow up a parliament and all the idiots inside it. Although an allegory for the original Guy Fawkes, V has yet to get his own special day.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: gojikranz on August 16, 2011, 06:31:31 PM
well i spaced out on my list.  will be interested to see the results though
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 16, 2011, 06:31:57 PM
#39 – Scotty

(33 Points) 4 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 12 (Gofyblind and FlockofRabidSheep) Voted by: Doctor Who?, Gofyblind, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/montgomery_scott_enjoying_a_glass_of_scotch.jpg)
 



Full Name: Montgomery "Scotty" Scott
From: Star Trek
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Chief Engineer, Chief Stereotype, Chief Giver of all She’s Got

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/funny-celebrity-pictures-scotty.jpg)

Known For: Gaining quite a bit of weight between the Star Trek TV series and the movies, doing the most amazing, and somewhat unbelievable, things with the Starship Enterprise, refusing to do that Futurama episode and getting replaced by “Welshy”

Sci Fi Themes: Knowledge and understanding of electronics like they are human, red shirts don’t have to die first, unconventional knowledge and skill saves the day over doing things “by the book”

Dossier: Scotty was born in Scotland (conveniently), went to Star Fleet, somehow lost Admiral Archer’s dog, and rocked the Star Trek universe as the doer of all things cool on the Enterprise. Seriously, had Star Trek been originally conceived (not re-imagined) in this time period, Scotty would be the Vin Diesel of the Star Trek world, and Star Trek 3 would have been called “The Search for a Place to Tokyo Drift”




Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 16, 2011, 06:32:55 PM
#38 – Obi-Wan Kenobi

(33 Points) 2 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 6 (D. B. Barnes) Voted by: D. B. Barnes, Imrahil
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/obi-wan-kenobi.jpg)
 



Full Name: Ben “Obi-Wan” Kenobi…aka Obi-Wannnna Martini
From: Star Wars
Planet of Origin: Stewjon
Position: Jedi Master, Fucker-Up of Anakin’s training
Known For: Being the father figure to Luke Skywalker and taking him on some damn foolish crusade, talking about the force and getting his own way because of that damn “point of view” loophole

Sci Fi Themes: Extreme calm and awareness of ones surrounding, good over evil, placing all the force into one’s facial hair

Dossier: Obi-Wan is introduced in Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope. Having been conveniently waiting for Luke to do something stupid, Obi-Wan gives Luke his father’s light saber, takes Luke to the most retched hide of scum and villainy, and then admits that he fucked up Vader’s training. By this time, we all realize Obi-Wan kind of sucked as a Jedi and then he dies. Somehow, though, he has shown up in all the major Star Wars movies/TV specials except that one….
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 16, 2011, 06:35:06 PM
No Ainley? Boooooo

I'll be back for V when I'm not on my phone...
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 16, 2011, 06:44:14 PM
Ainley?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 16, 2011, 06:44:24 PM
Oh dear. I hate to do this, but I had Data at #9.   :-[

It's probably too much of a hassle at this point to fix it.


EDIT: Don't worry about it. This is karma for screwing up Johnny Unusual's #1 guilty pleasure movie.

How ironic is it that this also screws one of his picks?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 16, 2011, 06:49:51 PM
Ainley?

(http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Anthony_Ainley-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 16, 2011, 06:54:38 PM
Jesus, I'm feeling really alienated so far! Not a single one of my characters. Not even the luxury of a #50 tiebreaker. At this point very few of my votes are likely to be shared by others.

I hope, at least, Anais will use some of my bonus Worst/Dumbest/Silliest Sci-Fi Characters.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 16, 2011, 07:05:01 PM
Although an allegory for the original Guy Fawkes, V has yet to get his own special day.

Not sure allegory is the right word there.

I like V for Vendetta I really do, but it has caused one of my personal bugbears to come into existence (I really think the film is what did this); people who completely misunderstand what the Gun Powder Plot was all about.

Hint: The real Guido Fawkes would have had more in common with Suttler than V, well perhaps Fawkes' employers would have.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 16, 2011, 07:38:05 PM
Well, had I not tried to do my list at one sitting (early the morning it was due), I likely would've remembered The Master, and decided to put 'V' on my list.  Ah, well... such are the vicissitudes of all Lists of Crap.  :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 16, 2011, 07:39:45 PM
Although an allegory for the original Guy Fawkes, V has yet to get his own special day.

Not sure allegory is the right word there.

I like V for Vendetta I really do, but it has caused one of my personal bugbears to come into existence (I really think the film is what did this); people who completely misunderstand what the Gun Powder Plot was all about.

Hint: The real Guido Fawkes would have had more in common with Suttler than V, well perhaps Fawkes' employers would have.

Well, that's the thing with symbols, they are often perverted (or anti-perverted in the case of the Christian cross).

Wait, did you just use the fascist leader from the movie and not the comic.  Muttter Mutter.  Admittedly, the name of the leader from the comic escapes me, except that it sounds kinda gay.  Just looked it up.  It's Susan.  Feminine, I guess, but I was thinking it was Ladyfeather or something.

Dossier: Nothing is known of V’s life before being captured and experimented on in a concentration camp. What is known is that being in concentration camp pissed V off pretty damn bad because he decided to blow up a parliament and all the idiots inside it.

I don't think he blew up parliament because he was pissed off.  I always felt that he was mad about what happened, but despite the title "V for Vendetta," it was more about defeating the government and not the people who make it up (though quite a few of them die).

I always loved the speech he gives via the TV.

Quote
Good evening, London. I thought it time we had a little talk. Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...
I suppose you're wondering why I've called you here this evening. Well you see, I'm not entirely satisfied with your performance lately…. I'm afraid your work's been slipping, and...and well, I'm afraid we've been thinking about letting you go.

Oh, I know, I know. You've been with the company a long time now. Almost...Let me see. Almost ten thousand years! My word, doesn't time fly? It seems like only yesterday… I remember the day you commenced your employment, swinging down from the trees, fresh-faced and nervous, A bone clasped in your bristling fist... "Where do I start, sir?" You asked, plaintively.

I recall my exact words: "There's a pile of dinosaur eggs over there, youngster," I said smiling paternally the while. "Get sucking."

Well, we've certainly come a long way since then, haven’t we? And yes, yes, you're right, in all that time you haven’t missed a day. Well done, thou good and faithful servant. Also please don't think I've forgotten about your out-standing service record, or about all of the invaluable contributions that you've made to the company... Fire ,the wheel of agriculture...It's an impressive list, old-timer. A jolly impressive list. Don't get me wrong.

But...well, to be frank, we've had our problems ,too. There's no getting away from it. Do you know what I think a lot of it stems from? I'll tell you... It's your basic unwillingness to get on within the company. You don't seem to want to face up to any real responsibility, or to be your own boss. Lord knows, you've been given plenty of opportunities...We've offered you promotion time and time again, and each time you've turned us down. :"I couldn't handle the work, Guv'nor," you wheedled. "I know my place"

To be frank, you're not trying, are you? You see, you've been standing still for far too long, and it's starting to show in your work....And I might add, in your general standard behaviour. The constant bickering on the factory floor has not escaped my attention...Nor the recent bouts of rowdiness in the staff canteen. Then of course there's....Hmmmm. Well, I didn't really want to have to bring this up, but...Well, you see I've been hearing some disturbing rumours about your personal life.

No, never you mind who told me. No names, no pack drill...I understand that you are unable to get on with your spouse. I hear that you argue. I am told that you shout. Violence has been mentioned. I am reliably informed that you always hurt the one you love...The one you shouldn't hurt at all.
And what about the children? It's always the children who suffer, as you're well aware. Poor little mites. What are they to make of it? What are they to make of your bullying, your despair, your cowardice and all your fondly nurtured bigotries? Really, it's not good enough, is it? And it's no good blaming the drop in work standards upon bad management, either ...

Though, to be sure, the management is very bad. In fact, let us not mince words ... the management is terrible! We've had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars and lunatics making a string of catastrophic decisions. This is plain fact.

But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these people! You who gave them the power to make your decisions for you! While I'll admit that anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after century seems to me nothing short of deliberate.

You have encouraged these malicious incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workspace with dangerous and unproven machines.

All you had to say was "NO." You have no spine. You have no pride. You are no longer an asset to the company. I will however, be generous. You will be granted two years to show me some improvement in your work. If at the end of that time you are still unwilling to make a go of it...You're fired.
That will be all. You may return to your labors"

This isn't a man threatening the government.  This is a man threatening humanity.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to talk about Data.  Great character, and I don't find him annoying... except when he gets emotions.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 16, 2011, 07:46:52 PM
Remember what I said about the movie being the source of the misuse of the symbol?

EDIT: Also I think "well perhaps Fawkes' employers would have." might not have been too clear; Catesby and his confederates wanted to institute an oppressive Catholic theocracy, a return to the sort of rule found under Mary I only with the dials up to 11.  I'm not sure that Fawkes was all that ideological really, he may have been considering how long he endured torture but we definitely know the people who hired him were.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 16, 2011, 07:57:48 PM
Oh, sorry, misunderstood  you point a bit.  My bugbear (or wait, can mine be a Hobgoblin.  Those guys are cool) is obviously, the film itself, which I have gone on way too much about and for that I apologize.  The movie is fine and works on it's own merits, but to me, it's sort of like the difference between the novel Death Wish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Wish) and the movie it was adapted into (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Wish_(film_series))
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 16, 2011, 09:01:37 PM
Oh dear. I hate to do this, but I had Data at #9.   :-[

It's probably too much of a hassle at this point to fix it.


EDIT: Don't worry about it. This is karma for screwing up Johnny Unusual's #1 guilty pleasure movie.

How ironic is it that this also screws one of his picks?

Sorry about that. I worked really hard to get the final list together (it took 5 hours) so it pisses me off to seem I missed something :(
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 16, 2011, 09:02:40 PM
Zapp is so awesome. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 16, 2011, 09:50:05 PM
#41 – The Master (not the dude from Buffy or Manos)

(31 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 13 (TripeHoundRedux) Voted by: Doctor Who?, TripeHoundRedux, FlockofRabidSheep
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/master1.jpg)

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Master_with_laser_screwdriver.png)

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/the-master-dr-who-431x300.jpg)



Full Name: Unknown. The Master is merely a name he gave to himself
From: Dr. Who (all)
Planet of Origin: Gallifrey
Position: Antagonist
Known For: Being crazy and wanting to kill the Doctor just because

Sci Fi Themes: The antithesis of the common hero, agelessness, infinite knowledge of time/space creates insanity.

Dossier: A Time Lord from the same planet and school as our hero, David Tennant, The Master is just as intelligent as The Doctor, but has plenty more evil to go around. What his motivation is has never been stated, but he wants The Doctor gone, the world to obey him and, knowing British stereotypes, he loves Tea.


Roger Delogo is my favorite Master,he was so smooth and worked so well with Pertwee I don't mind that he turns up in every story of season 8.

Such a shame he died so early,his death is one of the main reasons Pertwee left the show.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 17, 2011, 11:51:49 AM
Oh dear. I hate to do this, but I had Data at #9.   :-[

It's probably too much of a hassle at this point to fix it.


EDIT: Don't worry about it. This is karma for screwing up Johnny Unusual's #1 guilty pleasure movie.

How ironic is it that this also screws one of his picks?

Sorry about that. I worked really hard to get the final list together (it took 5 hours) so it pisses me off to seem I missed something :(

No worries. Believe me, I know how much work goes into doing this. And hey, people make mistakes. I fucked up on both of the lists I did. The L.O.C. is resilient. It will forge on.  :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 17, 2011, 12:41:50 PM
Quote
I fucked up on both of the lists I did. The L.O.C. is resilient. It will forge on. 

OOh i just got a cool idea for a LOC.  Top  50 error recoveries.  You know a mistake someone makes and then still manages to do something big.  Kinda like Columbus missing india but finding the "new world" (im SURE there are better examples)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 17, 2011, 06:02:16 PM
#42 – Data

My second favorite character from the show, despite his inability to process bilirubin.

#40 – V


Cool. Glad to see he got enough votes to make it. I only know the character from the film, but I found the film version to be a great, enigmatic character.

#38 – Obi-Wan Kenobi


Whoa. Only #38? This is freakin' Obi-Wan Kenobi over here!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 17, 2011, 06:04:48 PM
#38 – Obi-Wan Kenobi
Whoa. Only #38? This is freakin' Obi-Wan Kenobi over here!
Alec Guinness would approve, well actually he'd like him to not be on there at all but actors can't be choosers.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 17, 2011, 07:56:15 PM

Whoa. Only #38? This is freakin' Obi-Wan Kenobi over here!


As the other one who voted for him, I'm ashamed of all of the rest of you.

My favorite "Kenobi" centers around some of my friends who were reading a Latin text and didn't know the word "coenobitus."  It's a Greek word borrowed into Latin from "koinos" (common) and "bios" (life) --referring to a type of monk who lives with other monks in a community, vs. the weird desert guys who live all on their own (monachoi, from 'monos' - 'single').  But the Romans used 'coenobitus' (whence our "cenobite") to just mean "monk," and I suspect that this is where our old man Kenobi gets his name from.  Lucas did a lot of pirating from old stories, so it's not impossible.

Anyway, Latin "c" is pronounced like a "k", so it would also be pronounced "kenobitus."  Just sayin'.

Reading that gave me a raging brainer
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 17, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
Also, I have reviewed the list and Obi Wan is actually 39.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 17, 2011, 07:58:56 PM
#42 – Data
My second favorite character from the show, despite his inability to process bilirubin.

Yeah... well I know Billy Rubin... he's kinda' odd, and a little hard to process for a LOT of us!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 17, 2011, 08:22:44 PM
#42 – Data
My second favorite character from the show, despite his inability to process bilirubin.

Yeah... well I know Billy Rubin... he's kinda' odd, and a little hard to process for a LOT of us!

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Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 17, 2011, 08:46:56 PM
#38 – Max Headroom

(38 Points) 2 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Cole Stratton) Voted by: Cole Stratton, LucasM
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Full Name: Max Headroom
From: The 80s
Planet of Origin: Earth…I guess
Position: Selling stuff in the 80s, Waitor at the Café 80s, All around neat effect
Known For: Stuttering.

Sci Fi Themes: One of the first examples of Artificial Intelligence and computer graphics for the sake of entertainment

Dossier: Talk show host broadcasting from the future, Max was able to fully embrace the 80s by appearing in music videos, selling  New Coke, and even appearing on Sesame Street.


Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 17, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
#37 – Billy Pilgrim

(38 Points) 2 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 3 (Johnny Unusual) Voted by: Johnny Unusual, Anais.T.Kirk
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Full Name: William Pilgrim
From: Slaughterhouse 5
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Army man, Time traveller
Known For: Time travelling as a metaphor for surviving the horror that was fighting in WW2, being a prophet for the Tralfamadorians

Sci Fi Themes: Time Travel and Aliens

Dossier: Drafted into the army in 1943, Billy Pilgrim fought in WW2, and it totally sucked. One thing that was different, was that Billy become “un-stuck” in time during his army days, and he was able to see his future, re-live his past, and end up on Tralfamadore and do it with a porn star. Once back on Earth, all he wants to do is spread the peaceful word of the Tralfamadorians….and then he is assassinated.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 17, 2011, 08:47:47 PM
#36 – Rorschach

(38 Points) 2 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 3 (Asbestos Bill) Voted by: Gunflyer, Asbestos Bill
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/rorschach.jpg)
 


Full Name: Walter Joseph Kovachs
From: Watchmen
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Righter of wrongs, defender of truth, friend to children
Known For: Never showing his face, rather brutal dealings with evil doers, his constant changing rorschach mask.

Sci Fi Themes: Just because you have power does not mean that you can do whatever you want, don’t go chasing waterfalls

Dossier: Rorschach has a shit childhood that I am not going to go into. His life turned around considerably when he realized that he could create a face he could bear to look at in the mirror. This “face” made from sci fi material meant nothing, however, unless the man behind the face did good. He then went on the rampage, killing evildoers in a fashion that would make Dexter proud. Always standing up for what he believed was right, Rorschach continued to be a “superhero” after the Keane act was passed and was the only watchmen to stand up to Ozymandis and Dr. Manhattan after they decided what they did was right (I am totally on Rorschach’s side).

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 17, 2011, 09:09:41 PM
#36 – Rorschach

(38 Points) 2 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 3 (Asbestos Bill) Voted by: Gunflyer, Asbestos Bill
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/rorschach.jpg)
 


Full Name: Walter Joseph Kovachs
From: Watchmen
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Righter of wrongs, defender of truth, friend to children
Known For: Never showing his face, rather brutal dealings with evil doers, his constant changing rorschach mask.

Sci Fi Themes: Just because you have power does not mean that you can do whatever you want, don’t go chasing waterfalls

Dossier: Rorschach has a shit childhood that I am not going to go into. His life turned around considerably when he realized that he could create a face he could bear to look at in the mirror. This “face” made from sci fi material meant nothing, however, unless the man behind the face did good. He then went on the rampage, killing evildoers in a fashion that would make Dexter proud. Always standing up for what he believed was right, Rorschach continued to be a “superhero” after the Keane act was passed and was the
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Bit of a spoiler at the end there...
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 17, 2011, 09:18:49 PM
I didn't say what they did to him
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 17, 2011, 09:24:24 PM
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"Why did you ask Data to scan for life forms?"
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 18, 2011, 05:41:20 AM
#37 – Billy Pilgrim

(38 Points) 2 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 3 (Johnny Unusual) Voted by: Johnny Unusual, Anais.T.Kirk
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So it goes...  What?  Too obvious?

See this is why it's important to have literary characters.

#36 – Rorschach

(38 Points) 2 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 3 (Asbestos Bill) Voted by: Gunflyer, Asbestos Bill
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How perfect would it be if he fought Two-Face.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 18, 2011, 05:52:53 AM
How perfect would it be if he fought Two-Face.
:clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 18, 2011, 07:40:14 AM
I didn't say what they did to him

Yeah but
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 09:11:45 AM

I personally think Ozymandias was right.

I know, it was one of the most fave discussions I have ever had with you on this forum, so I tossed it in :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 18, 2011, 09:39:36 AM
I think when the story's been out for 25 years and the movie for 2-3, we're past the point of "spoiler warnings."

It was his sled!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 18, 2011, 10:12:00 AM
I think when the story's been out for 25 years and the movie for 2-3, we're past the point of "spoiler warnings."

It was his sled!

It's a cookbook!
No, no, you're thinking of Chew
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Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: goflyblind on August 18, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
I think when the story's been out for 25 years and the movie for 2-3, we're past the point of "spoiler warnings."

It was his sled!

he played the crying game with his sled?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 01:10:53 PM
I think when the story's been out for 25 years and the movie for 2-3, we're past the point of "spoiler warnings."

It was his sled!

he played the crying game with his sled?

HI OH!!!  :o
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 18, 2011, 01:14:03 PM
I think when the story's been out for 25 years and the movie for 2-3, we're past the point of "spoiler warnings."
It was his sled!
he played the crying game with his sled?
No, no, that's not true, that's impossible!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 18, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
Quote
No, no, that's not true, that's impossible!

Yeah but kaiser soze has the sled now. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 09:06:16 PM
Worst Sci- Fi Character  – Terl

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Nominated by: Katonic
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Full Name: Terl the Lame (unconfirmed)
From: The craphole of L. Ron Hubbard (aka Battlefield Earth)
Planet of Origin: Psyclon (which I am sure is near the land of Xenu)
Position: Psyclon chief of Security on Earth, Maker of Dumb Jokes
Known For: Having SIX, count them SIX fingers!

Sci Fi Themes: Humanities fight against alien invaders, Xenu and Midiclhorians and I don’t care

Dossier: Terl liked to do it with important people’s daughters. Because of that he was sent to Earth. Terl doesn’t like Earth too much, so he decides to force land animals like Barry Pepper to dig gold. Luckily, Terl is extremely stupid and doesn’t mind when the land animals give him gold stolen from Fort Knox. Terl does end up dead and the earth is saved….except for the fact that all the frozen souls of a bunch of aliens trapped here by lord Xenu infect earth people’s minds and give us suffering and Tom Cruise
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 18, 2011, 09:19:07 PM
Worst Sci- Fi Character  – Terl

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Nominated by: Katonic
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This must be some kind of mistake!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 09:24:16 PM
#35 – Ender

(42 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Asbestos Bill) Voted by: Johnny Unusual, Asbestos Bill, Anais.T.Kirk
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Full Name: Andrew "Ender" Wiggin
From: The Ender’s Game series
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: The “Neo” in Earth’s fight against the “buggers” a race of….bug like beings
Known For: Being a third child when technically only two children are allowed per couple, having the right mix of compassion and military strategy, being used as a military tool.

Sci Fi Themes: Compassion and Military strategy are the best ways to be a true leader, using computer simulations as military training, leaders are made by their environment not their genetics (when you compare Ender and his brother, Peter), the indestructible will of a young child.

Dossier: A child genius, Ender was practically created to lead the human race in their fight against the buggers. Being a genius and an outcast (remember, people in this society do not look kindly to parents who produce more than two offspring), Ender had no one but his sister,  Valentine, to look up too. After being accepted to Battle School at a young age, Ender is moulded into humanity’s hope against the buggers, this backfires because Ender, who has never really had friends, learns and understands very specific ideas about compassion. This compassion allows him to feel betrayed at being used by the military and, in the end, he chooses to save the last surviving bugger queen so the bugger race can continue to exist.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 09:24:42 PM
#34 – The Terminator

(42 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 12 (Darth Geek and Imrahil) Voted by: Darth Geek, Imrahil, Katonic and Relaxing Dragon
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Full Name: Machines don’t have names…duh, but his official model is “Cyberdyne Systems Model 101"
From: The Terminator series
Planet of Origin: Post-Judgment Day Earth
Position: Killer of people, especially John Connor. Later, protector of John Connor

Known For: Saying awesome one-liners in an Austrian accent, Hilarious (and violent) misunderstandings of pre-judgement day earth culture, always showing up naked at the beginning of the films

Sci Fi Themes: Machines can love….but they mostly blow shit up

Dossier: So, Judgment Day happens and Skynet (those bastards) builds the T-101 model. Kyle Reese goes back in time because he realizes A) one of the T-101 is going back in time to kill John Connor…who happens to be his kid (I guess Kyle is the original doer of the nasty in the pasty). Later, the T-101 is sent back to protect John Connor…twice. This was not the same T-101, though, because he dies in every movie. Basically, Skynet thought Ahnuld was the best model for a humanoid robot. Considering the fact that a T-101 became the governor of California, they appear to be correct
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 09:26:48 PM
On the modified list....


#33 – Data

(44 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 6 (FlockofRabidSheep) Voted by: Johnny Unusual, FlockofRabidSheep, and D.B. Barnes
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Data_2366.jpg)

Full Name: Lieutenant Commander Data
From: Star Trek: The Next Generation
Planet of Origin: Technically Omicron Theta,  but do androids really have a planet of origin? I mean really
Position: Second Officer and Chief Operations Officer, Comic Relief, Droid

Known For: Yellow skin, somehow having been created with the ability to do “it,” being annoying more than funny

Sci Fi Themes: He’s a frickin android trying to determine how humans act so he can be more like one. What’s more sci fi than that?

Dossier: Created by a man who isn’t Khan (despite the similar last name), named Dr. Noonien Soong, Data has spent his time tyring to be human while offering social commentary on the human race. Apparently, he sacrificed himself to save Picard in one of the movies I never bothered watching.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 09:27:15 PM
#32 – Jayne

(42 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 8 (Compound) Voted by: Compound, TripeHoundRedux, Asbestos Bill, Anais.T.Kirk
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Full Name: Jayne Cobb
From: Firefly and Serenity
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Hired Gun
 
Known For: Being a big dumb oaf, yet clearly having a compassionate side for Kaylee (the ships engineer) and his mother (whom he sends his money too). Also LOVES guns.

Sci Fi Themes: Protect yourself above all others, comedy in the face of death is a good idea, being the hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne (so also being a Johnny Cash reference)

Dossier: Jayne had been a mercernary/gun for hire/ all around scoundrel for several years before becoming a member of Malcolm Reynolds Firefly crew. He likes guns, explosions, and booty (money and female). Although he carries himself with a very tough exterior, he has true elements of compassion. He clearly has a crush on Kaylee, he has cried on two occasions, especially seeing young men die for no reason. Had the show continued (like it should have…stupid Fox…grumble) Jayne would have developed into one hell of a character.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 09:28:39 PM
#31 – Captain Benjamin Sisko

(42 Points) 2 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Compound) Voted by: Gunflyer, Compound
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Full Name: Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko
From: Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Planet of Origin: Earth (New Orleans, actually, which is pretty cool)
Position: Captain 
Known For: Being a single daddy, really not liking Captain Picard (due to the fact that he is a Kirk fan), and love Baseball (therefore, he is now cool in my mind)

Sci Fi Themes: Forgiveness and repentance, prophecy, and bitchin creole cookin

Dossier: Born to a creole chef from New Orleans and a woman possessed by what I can only figure are the Star Trek version of Bularians, Ben Sisko joined starfleet, fell in love and had a baby boy. Then Picard got all Borg-ed out and killed his wife (indirectly). This pissed Ben off to no end and tried to avoid Starfleet and focus on raising his son. Later he is given command of Deep Space Nine and, through much soul searching, forgives Captain Picard. He then goes on to lead many exciting adventures of which some people on the forum love, and others didn’t like that much
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 18, 2011, 09:29:51 PM
On the modified list....

#33 – Data

(44 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 6 (FlockofRabidSheep) Voted by: Johnny Unusual, FlockofRabidSheep, and D.B. Barnes

Oh, look at that! Thanks for taking the time.  :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 18, 2011, 09:30:44 PM
#32 – Jayne

(42 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 8 (Compound) Voted by: Compound, TripeHoundRedux, Asbestos Bill, Anais.T.Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Jayne.jpg)
 



FYI, this man is HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOT I SAY
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 18, 2011, 09:31:04 PM
Heh i should of made a list lol.  Could of bumped the emisary up some.  I love your write ups Anais lol.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 18, 2011, 10:33:36 PM
Man, Sisko just cannot grow a goatee.
Im-rah-il, If you have some-thing, to say to me, then say, it! :D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 18, 2011, 10:41:10 PM
Hehe thread spill over.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 19, 2011, 05:50:54 AM
Man,  Data again?  This is going to be a confusing list compilation I think.

Nice to see Ender on there.  I found it to be a great book, though I was dismayed to learn about author Orson Scott Card's staunch anti-gay views, which turned me off of reading the rest of the series (though I'm sure are great).  It's not always easy to separate the artist and the art.

I really like Jayne, but in the end, he didn't make my list.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 19, 2011, 07:13:34 AM
*sigh* I hate to be "that guy", but there are a few mistakes in the Terminator and Ender writeups. For Ender, you refer to him as Bender several times. And for The Terminator, you rafer to the Arnold character as the T-1000 a few times
Considering the fact that a T-1000 became the governor of California, they appear to be correct

for example
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 19, 2011, 07:17:59 AM
Well, the T-1000 is an evil shapeshifter, which would explain Arnold's actions... over his entire life.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 19, 2011, 07:33:42 AM
Haha, I'm glad to see someone else noticing his weird-ass speech patterns. :)
Meh, just like Captain Kirk, I could care less about his speech patterns, Sisko is probably
the only main character in a Trek series who could knock a God on his ass... wait a minute, he DID
knock Q on his ass! And guess what? Q never messed with DS9 ever again! If that isn't
a testament to his "badassery", then I don't know what is. ;)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 19, 2011, 07:34:35 AM
How much less could you care?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 19, 2011, 07:54:10 AM
Haha, I'm glad to see someone else noticing his weird-ass speech patterns. :)
Meh, just like Captain Kirk, I could care less about his speech patterns, Sisko is probably
the only main character in a Trek series who could knock a God on his ass... wait a minute, he DID
knock Q on his ass! And guess what? Q never messed with DS9 ever again! If that isn't
a testament to his "badassery", then I don't know what is. ;)

How much less could you care?

Ugh. This and "irregardless".
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 19, 2011, 07:57:35 AM
Haha, I'm glad to see someone else noticing his weird-ass speech patterns. :)
Meh, just like Captain Kirk, I could care less about his speech patterns, Sisko is probably
the only main character in a Trek series who could knock a God on his ass... wait a minute, he DID
knock Q on his ass! And guess what? Q never messed with DS9 ever again! If that isn't
a testament to his "badassery", then I don't know what is. ;)

I love that scene.  You hit me!  Picard never hit me!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 19, 2011, 08:00:30 AM
Haha, I'm glad to see someone else noticing his weird-ass speech patterns. :)
Meh, just like Captain Kirk, I could care less about his speech patterns, Sisko is probably
the only main character in a Trek series who could knock a God on his ass... wait a minute, he DID
knock Q on his ass! And guess what? Q never messed with DS9 ever again! If that isn't
a testament to his "badassery", then I don't know what is. ;)

I love that scene.  You hit me!  Picard never hit me!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 19, 2011, 09:03:29 AM
Man,  Data again?  This is going to be a confusing list compilation I think.

No it won't, that was the only modification that needed to be made.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 19, 2011, 09:04:02 AM
*sigh* I hate to be "that guy", but there are a few mistakes in the Terminator and Ender writeups. For Ender, you refer to him as Bender several times. And for The Terminator, you rafer to the Arnold character as the T-1000 a few times
Considering the fact that a T-1000 became the governor of California, they appear to be correct

for example

Fixed
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 19, 2011, 09:19:14 AM
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here here" gets me.

Why does that get you?  And how do you feel about cheers? or oorah?  Or huah?

Quote
I love that scene.  You hit me!  Picard never hit me!

That scene was a great example of the difference between him and picard (although less so him and kirk i think).  I will say this out of all the captain (excluding ent since i didnt watch bakula) Sisko is the only one i would want as a captain.  The only one who would be good to lead you as a commander.  Picard is really a diplomat and as such i think he puts his crew at unnessicary risk at times and the whole surrendering thing REALLY irks me.  Kirk is a cowboy and puts himself and his crew at risk but comes at it from the other direction. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 19, 2011, 10:02:09 AM
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"here here" gets me.

Why does that get you?  And how do you feel about cheers? or oorah?  Or huah?


Because it's "hear, hear."  As in, "hear what this gentleman has just said!"  Not "come here, dog."
I've always been under the impression it's "hear, here", like "Hear what this person here has to say!"

Or it's just one of those things that doesn't translate well from spoken to written.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 19, 2011, 10:05:39 AM
I'm bored and on Wikipedia right now:

Quote
Hear, hear

Hear, hear is an expression used as a short, repeated form of hear him, hear him. It represents a listener's agreement with the point being made by a speaker. It is often incorrectly spelled "here here".
 
It was originally an imperative for directing attention to speakers, and has since been used, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, as "the regular form of cheering in the House of Commons", with many purposes depending on the intonation of its user. Its use in Parliament is linked to the fact that applause is normally (though not always) forbidden in the chambers of the House of Commons and House of Lords.
 
The phrase hear him, hear him! was used in Parliament from late in the 17th century, and was reduced to hear! or hear, hear! by the late 18th century. The verb hear had earlier been used in the King James Bible as a command for others to listen.
 
Other phrases have been derived from hear, hear, such as a hear, hear (a cheer), to hear-hear (to shout the expression), and hear-hearer (a person who does the same).
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 19, 2011, 10:09:14 AM
I would die a happy man if i could stamp Huah out of the air force. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 19, 2011, 10:21:50 AM
I've always been under the impression it's "hear, here", like "Hear what this person here has to say!"

Or it's just one of those things that doesn't translate well from spoken to written.

That was actually a joke in The Phantom Tollbooth.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 19, 2011, 12:48:22 PM
I've always been under the impression it's "hear, here", like "Hear what this person here has to say!"

Or it's just one of those things that doesn't translate well from spoken to written.

That was actually a joke in The Phantom Tollbooth.
Then I shall continue to use it as such, as I love all things Tollbooth :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 19, 2011, 02:39:51 PM
Then I shall continue to use it as such, as I love all things Tollbooth :)
My best friends call me "Re-Tardis", but unfortunately, that's what my worst enemies call me too.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 19, 2011, 03:02:29 PM
Why does that get you?  And how do you feel about cheers? or oorah?  Or huah?

Its spelled "hooah" you Chairforce bumb!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 19, 2011, 03:05:40 PM
lol its spelled annoying. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 19, 2011, 04:03:27 PM
There is ABSOLUTELY no reason you should. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Compound on August 19, 2011, 04:50:36 PM
For Pete's sake.

Oorah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oorah_%28Marines%29)- Marine spelling (And the Mounties)
Hooah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooah)- Army
Hooyah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooyah)- Seals

The general consensus seems to be that Airmen are using the Army version.

Yes, I'm glad that someone actually took the time to make wiki pages about a two syllable sound.

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: goflyblind on August 19, 2011, 04:56:06 PM
oprah?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Compound on August 19, 2011, 04:57:48 PM
No, Uma. Do keep up.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 19, 2011, 05:30:16 PM
yup it totally weird that we use that silliness (still i know we were army at one point)  whenever i can i tell people not to and that chants are for cults. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 19, 2011, 06:18:33 PM
Hooah, is not really a chant though.  It's more like a universal one word response.

"Let's go to the d-fac and get some chow!"
"Hooah!"

"Make sure you do a complete PMCS on your vehicle before the next convoy."
"Hooah."

And if you want to show how motivated you are to the visiting general, and why I hate the "word" hooah.

"How are you doing today soldiers?"
"HOOOOOOOOOOAH!"
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 19, 2011, 06:23:15 PM
i say its a chant just so i can associate it with cults its not that accurate i admit. 

Although your third use is pretty close it. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: goflyblind on August 19, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
Hooah, is not really a chant though.  It's more like a universal one word response.

"Let's go to the d-fac and get some chow!"
"Hooah!"

"Make sure you do a complete PMCS on your vehicle before the next convoy."
"Hooah."

And if you want to show how motivated you are to the visiting general, and why I hate the "word" hooah.

"How are you doing today soldiers?"
"HOOOOOOOOOOAH!"

so what you're saying is that soldiers are in fact smurfs.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 19, 2011, 06:25:05 PM
I was thinking Pokemon.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 19, 2011, 06:29:15 PM
It sounds to me like it is a sound designed to 'de-think' soldiers (so they become less and less verbally conscious or able to maintain language-based thought, thereby making it possible for them to kill easier).


[But there's a slight possibility that that could be the cynic, and the Psychologist in me over-thinking it.   ;) ]
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 19, 2011, 06:32:23 PM
That is possible.  The Army likes to think of it as motivation and team building.  The Army is all about the motivation.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 19, 2011, 08:13:55 PM
Quote
It sounds to me like it is a sound designed to 'de-think' soldiers (so they become less and less verbally conscious or able to maintain language-based thought, thereby making it possible for them to kill easier).


as the air force guy my guess is its really more to help the guys with ASVAB waivers have something nearly intelligable to say. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 19, 2011, 08:30:48 PM
Thats also likely.  It would explain why the infantry guys like it.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Compound on August 19, 2011, 08:36:32 PM
This actually pops into mind:

112. When saluting a “leg” officer, an appropriate greeting is not “Airborne leads the wa- oh…sorry sir”.

From Skippy's List of 213 Things He is No Longer Allowed to Do in the Army.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 19, 2011, 09:03:55 PM
Damn elitist Airforce bastards!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 19, 2011, 09:08:50 PM
Damn elitist Airforce bastards!

Think they're so high and mighty.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 20, 2011, 12:27:52 AM
Damn elitist Airforce bastards!

Think they're so high and mighty.

What with their air and their force!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 20, 2011, 01:19:18 AM
Damn elitist Airforce bastards!
Think they're so high and mighty.
What with their air and their force!

Seriously... it feels like they are looking down at the rest of us!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 20, 2011, 10:11:57 AM
lol :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 20, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
#30 – Q

(48 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Gofyblind) Voted by: Monty, Gofyblind, D.B. Barnes
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/q-star-trek.jpg)
 


Full Name: Q-bert Von Godlypants (Citation Needed)
From: Star Trek TNG, DS9, and Voyager
Planet of Origin: N/A; originates from the Q Continuum
Position: Trickster God-like creature who really likes humans (almost a little like Trelane from “The Squire of Gothos”)

Known For: Acting like a bi-polar 13 year old by going from jokester to ticking time bomb, appearing as a human in a starfleet captain’s uniform, getting punched in the face by #31.

Sci Fi Themes: Omnipotence, existence so complex human beings cannot understand it, even god-like beings can act like spoiled brats

Dossier: First showing up in Star Trek: TNG, Q has always been fascinated by humans. He assumes they are a dangerous race but is proven wrong by Picard. Later, he wants to study Riker (me too….rowr…oh not in that way, darn  ) to see how humans can ever possibly evolve behind beings like him. Q’s omnipotence is limited, it seems, because although he can figure out that humans shall evolve, he can’t figure out how. Also, there is something about a mirror universe and Q being the cause, and based on my star trek thread, I decided to stop reading the rest of the wiki page because I want to make my own opinions of the mirror universe.
Later on, Q is punched in the face by Sisko and Dr. Who? loved it.


Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 20, 2011, 09:56:03 PM
#29 – Marty McFly

(49 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (Anais.T.Kirk) Voted by: Johnny Unusual, Monty, Anais.T.Kirk
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/marty2.jpg)

Oh, no, wait….here he is:
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/marty.jpg)

 


Full Name: Martin Seamus "Marty" McFly, Sr (aka Marty McSuperfly)
From: Back to the Future
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Unwittingly becomes the first human time traveler (Einstein being the first mammal to experience time travel), Unwitting cupid for his own parents, bringer down of Biff Tannen and all forefathers.

Known For: Wearing a life vest in the 50s, wearing Nike’s in the 1880s, and kicking ass at Wild Gunman (despite it being a “baby’s toy” according to a young Elijah Wood) in 2015. Also, hates to be called “Chicken” and likes to say things are “Heavy”

Sci Fi Themes: Time Travel, Changing the Future for the better and changing the past for the worst, The Space Time Continuum can suck it when friendship is on the line.

Dossier: Once upon a time there was a young man named Marty living in Hill Valley, CA. He has a band, the love of a good woman, and crazypants Crispin Glover as a father. Being the good boy scout he is, Marty agrees to help his friend Dr. Emmett Brown test his new time machine. Of course, when the Libyans come, Marty has no choice but to drive said time machine to get away from the crazy terrorists (note to self: advise Obama to invest in Delorean’s for War against Terror). Marty ends up in the past and fucks things up royally, and then he has to fix it. He gets home by completing the greatest and most tension filled experiment of all time. Later, there are two sequels.

 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 20, 2011, 09:58:46 PM
Where is it stated that his middle name is Seamus?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 20, 2011, 10:04:45 PM
#28 – RoboCop

(50 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 9 (Monty) Voted by: Gunflyer, Katonic, Cole Stratton, Darth Geek, Monty
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/untitled-2.jpg)


Full Name: OCP Crime Prevention Unit 001 (formerly Detroit Police Officer Alex James Murphy and usually referred to as simply RoboCop)
From: RoboCop
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Robot Cop and mirror into our own humanity. Also, destroyer of evil doers.

Known For: Well, Alex is known for being literally destroyed! (Have you seen that scene? EPIC! I was thinking about posting the youtube clip, but its pretty brutal. If you want to see it go to youtube and search for “robocop alex murphy death”)
Robocop is known for being not entirely machine. Once memories of his life and death resurface, Robocop goes on a vengeance mission against the men who killed him. Much carnage ensues.

Sci Fi Themes: Mans rebirth and immortality, the media, resurrection, gentrification, corruption, privatization, masculinity, and human nature.

Dossier: It is the future and Detroit, MI is overrun with crime and Juggalos (which is worse? A question for the ages). Alex Murphy is a good cop and a good man. He gets transferred to the really really bad part of Detroit (ya know, not where Eminem is from) and gets friggin DEMOLISHED! Seriously, his arm, hand, and very large pieces of flesh are stripped from his body by gunshots. One of the coolest movie deaths ever!...But I digress. Once the mere mortal Alex is killed (like killed is a good enough word for it), Omni Consumer Products, the current funders of the Detroit Police Department, go all 6 Million Dollar Man on Alex and create……Half Man, Half Machine, All Cop.

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 20, 2011, 10:10:30 PM
#27 – Mike Nelson

(51 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 9 (PakMan and Compound) Voted by: PakMan, Darth Geek, Imrahil, Compound
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/tumblr_l9rzfqnyGd1qzjyfpo1_500.png)


Full Name: Mike Nelson
From: Mystery Science Theater 3000
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Mild mannered dope and test subject (according to Dr. Clayton Forrester)

Known For: Wearing a blue jumpsuit, making very funny commentaries about the films he is forced to watch, blowing up planets

Sci Fi Themes: Robots can be BFFs

Dossier: Is there anything I can write about this man that you don’t know?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 20, 2011, 10:50:46 PM
#27 – Mike Nelson

(51 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 9 (PakMan and Compound) Voted by: PakMan, Darth Geek, Imrahil, Compound
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/tumblr_l9rzfqnyGd1qzjyfpo1_500.png)
Full Name: Mike Nelson
Mike Nelson? Who the hell is that?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 21, 2011, 12:57:42 AM
#27 – Mike Nelson


Dossier: Is there anything I can write about this man that you don’t know?

His bio becomes much more complex if you factor in the "Time Chasers" episode. Particularly: there's an alternate timeline wherein he's dead and his brother is hosting MST3K. (I'll leave it to someone else to make the prerequisite "Abrams alternate timeline joke")
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Rattrap007 on August 21, 2011, 03:34:41 AM
Wonder if Mike ever regrets quitting working at Fridays? :D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 21, 2011, 06:31:11 AM
The way he makes fun on Fridays on various Rifftrax. I guess he regrets it all the time.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 21, 2011, 08:18:06 AM
#26 – Arthur Dent

(54 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Johnny Unusual) Voted by: Doctor Who?, Invader Quirk, Johnny Unusual, Gofyblind, FlockofRabidSheep
 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/simon-jones-as-arthur-dent.jpg)

And later…

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/arthur2.jpg)
(I prefer this ^ one…yum!)
 


Full Name: Arthur Phillip Dent
From: The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: The “Neo” of Earth

Known For: Wearing a dressing gown and slippers, not getting the hang of Thursdays, and as for his experience with tea, well this phrase sums it up best: Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

Sci Fi Themes: Being the chosen one, possibility and probability, the number 42

Dossier: Oh, poor Arthur Dent. One day he gets up and makes himself a cuppa, only to discover his home is soon  to be destroyed to make way for an intercity bypass. Then he realizes his bff is an alien from the planet Betelgeuse. Theeeeeen he learns the earth is about to be destroyed to make way for an intergalactic bypass. Luckily, Ford Prefect happens to be an excellent hitchhiker. Hilarity and probability and possibility ensue.



Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 21, 2011, 08:18:51 AM
#25 – Zim

(54 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 6 (PakMan and Invader Quirk) Voted by: PakMan, Invader Quirk, Darth Geek, Relaxing Dragon)
 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/951180-zim_pondering_large.jpg)
 


Full Name: Zim
From: Invader Zim
Planet of Origin: The Irken Homeworld
Position: Banished and Disgraced (and short) Invader of Earth

Known For: Having a malfunctioning robot assistant/friend/companion thing, GIR, being rather inept, having his plans foiled every episode only to come back with another one the following week (greenlight that sucker).

Sci Fi Themes: Alien Invaders a la Orsen Welles…well Fat Orsen Welles

Dossier: Overzealous, impulsive and convinced of his own greatness, Zim is incompetent as an invader. He constantly schemes to enslave or destroy mankind and, despite his access to potent Irken technology, his plans, frequently based on misconceptions, are never successful (sorry guys, that was totally stolen from Wikipedia, but I have actually never seen this show).
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 21, 2011, 08:31:27 AM
#24 – Wash

(57 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (Gofyblind)
Voted by: TripeHoundRedux, Cole Stratton, Asbestos Bill, Gofyblind, Anais.T. Kirk

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/wash.jpg)
 


Full Name: Hoban "Wash" Washburne
From: Firefly (and NOT Serenity. I do not recognize that film exists when it comes to this character).
Planet of Origin: Unnamed polluted planet (So sayeth the Wiki)
Position: Ship’s Pilot, Comedian, and doer of this fine foxy lady

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zoe.jpg)

Known For: Getting the Serenity our of some pretty hardcore situations with his amazing abilities, openly playing with dinosaurs (unlike Dark Helmet who hides it), being able to have a piece of this whenever he wants. Also, saying this: “Curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal!”

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zoesexy.jpg)

Sci Fi Themes: Physics: work with it, not against it, the term “space cowboys” can actually mean cowboys in space.

Dossier: Wash had a typical shit life growing up in the colonies. He became a pilot so he could leave said shit life behind. He became so darn good at piloting that he was requested by many a captain, good and bad alike. Who knows why he chose to be the pilot of Serenity (the above pictures have nothing to do with it I am sure), but for whatever reason, he lives on, flying the ship through further adventures and NEVER EVER DYING! DO YOU HEAR THAT, WHEDON! I WILL CUT YOU!!!!!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 21, 2011, 08:32:49 AM
Whoops, sorry about the Zim pic...gimme a moment here


PS: THe Wash post is dedicated to Tripe. Hope you like my pciture selections.


And a spoiler tag would ruin the joke, sorry
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 21, 2011, 08:36:53 AM
Indeed I do. :)

Yow. See I like the look of Zoe, and Jasmine and Sarge and whatever her name was in the show with Jennifer Garner in it that I only watched when she was on. But as characters go she's outside my top 25. :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 21, 2011, 08:44:44 AM
#26 – Arthur Dent

(54 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Johnny Unusual) Voted by: Doctor Who?, Invader Quirk, Johnny Unusual, Gofyblind, FlockofRabidSheep
 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/simon-jones-as-arthur-dent.jpg)

And later…

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/arthur2.jpg)
(I prefer this ^ one…yum!)
 


Full Name: Arthur Phillip Dent
From: The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: The “Neo” of Earth

Known For: Wearing a dressing gown and slippers, not getting the hang of Thursdays, and as for his experience with tea, well this phrase sums it up best: Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

Sci Fi Themes: Being the chosen one, possibility and probability, the number 42

Dossier: Oh, poor Arthur Dent. One day he gets up and makes himself a cuppa, only to discover his home is soon  to be destroyed to make way for an intercity bypass. Then he realizes his bff is an alien from the planet Betelgeuse. Theeeeeen he learns the earth is about to be destroyed to make way for an intergalactic bypass. Luckily, Ford Prefect happens to be an excellent hitchhiker. Hilarity and probability and possibility ensue.





Simon Jones is my favorite Dent because Adams wrote the part for him and it shows,he is perfect.  I wish they had made the sequels into Tv shows.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 21, 2011, 10:19:27 AM
I'm a bigger fan of the Freeman Dent, but that's more because I'm a bigger fan of the movie version than anything else.

Zim demands a proper photo!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 21, 2011, 11:00:51 AM
Zim demands a proper photo!

He failed to show up for his own photo.

That's SO Zim!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 21, 2011, 11:34:25 AM
#30 – Q

(48 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Gofyblind) Voted by: Monty, Gofyblind, D.B. Barnes
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110630193129/smallville/images/3/34/309862-56452-mr-mxyzptlk.jpg)
 
Fixed.

#26 – Arthur Dent

(54 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Johnny Unusual) Voted by: Doctor Who?, Invader Quirk, Johnny Unusual, Gofyblind, FlockofRabidSheep
 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/simon-jones-as-arthur-dent.jpg)
For other people it might be Zaphod or Ford, it occurred to me recently that Arthur is my favourite character.  He's a smart, reasonable man (it would easy to make his character just a guy who asks questions to provide exposition) who has the misfortune of being way in over his head in a world he's got to work hard to understand and acquits himself quite well.  And Simon is Arthurd Dent.  Although I read the book first, and in that I always imagined him as the guy who played Miles on Murphy Brown.

#24 – Wash

(57 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (Gofyblind)
Voted by: TripeHoundRedux, Cole Stratton, Asbestos Bill, Gofyblind, Anais.T. Kirk

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/wash.jpg)
 


Full Name: Hoban "Wash" Washburne
From: Firefly (and NOT Serenity. I do not recognize that film exists when it comes to this character).
Planet of Origin: Unnamed polluted planet (So sayeth the Wiki)
Position: Ship’s Pilot, Comedian, and doer of this fine foxy lady

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zoe.jpg)

Not the Firefly character I picked, but a great character.  Got to love Alan Tudyk.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 21, 2011, 11:48:35 AM
It's strange, but while I generally prefer the BBC version, Movie Hitchhiker fills me with this general sense of Joy that I don't think I get from any other movie. I'm not sure where it comes from specifically, but the movie just puts me in a really great mood.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 21, 2011, 11:50:02 AM
yeah there is something so awesome watching them heroically fill out paperwork to save trillian. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 21, 2011, 11:50:16 AM
I'm a bigger fan of the Freeman Dent, but that's more because I'm a bigger fan of the movie version than anything else.

Did you see the movie first or something? I've never heard anyone else say that.

Yeah the movie is okay but alot of Adams' more adult and satirical humor was left out or butchered by the movie.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 21, 2011, 12:15:25 PM
#30 – Q

(48 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Gofyblind) Voted by: Monty, Gofyblind, D.B. Barnes
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110630193129/smallville/images/3/34/309862-56452-mr-mxyzptlk.jpg)
 
Fixed.
But if his name is Q, and if he says it backwards... he would disappear every time he said his own name!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 21, 2011, 12:33:05 PM
Whoops, sorry about the Zim pic...gimme a moment here

I'll get it.

#25 – Zim

(54 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 6 (PakMan and Invader Quirk) Voted by: PakMan, Invader Quirk, Darth Geek, Relaxing Dragon)

(http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/galaxy-invader.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 21, 2011, 02:11:52 PM
I'm a bigger fan of the Freeman Dent, but that's more because I'm a bigger fan of the movie version than anything else.

Did you see the movie first or something? I've never heard anyone else say that.

I saw them both around the same time (and I do need to rewatch the BBC one), but I just happen to really enjoy the movie version. It's definitely got its share of problems, but I think it's got enough charm and new ideas to it to work. I basically get the same feeling that Pak does; just a real good feeling of happiness while watching it.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 21, 2011, 02:39:02 PM
#25 – Zim

(54 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 6 (PakMan and Invader Quirk) Voted by: PakMan, Invader Quirk, Darth Geek, Relaxing Dragon)

(http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/galaxy-invader.jpg)
:D :D So does that make the old guy with the ripped T-shirt Dib?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 21, 2011, 03:47:58 PM
#27 – Mike Nelson

Now this is a character that I seriously spaced on, by not putting him on my list!


#24 – Wash

I agree that Wash is superb.  Another 'Sci-Fi Theme' for him: "part of one of the only couples in all of fiction that have disagreements that don't get exaggerated all out of proportion".   I likely could have put all of the inhabitants of Serenity on my list for various reasons, but ended up opting for only two.

Oh, and I am very appreciative for the pictures of his spousal unit on the show, as well.  Yum!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 21, 2011, 04:05:09 PM
#39 – Scotty
Voted by: Doctor Who?, Gofyblind, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk

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(http://www.teefury.com/products_large_images/1311031800_BOTTOM__071815h52m18.jpg)

At teefury, the tees are only $10 each with $2.50 shipping (to the US).  They are VERY high quality, both in durability of the 100% cotton tees and in the quality of the silkscreening.  [And no, I don't get a referral commission, I just think they are great tees and others may like them.]
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 21, 2011, 06:53:55 PM
I like the idea for the shirt, but the execution is wonky; the letter spacing is way off in that sign, and that would annoy me.

Yeah, for the details section I think it is the font that was chosen.  The kerning is uneven for the font so that different letters have more space between them and the next letter than the others [like the 'R' and 'Y' in 'crystals'].  But mostly to me, it is that the person tried to stretch each line to come closer to filling the space, so that the spaces between words is too great.  If he'd left out a line, and made all the words larger it would've fit nicely without the extra spacing between words.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 05:38:06 PM
#23 – Bones

(58 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 3 (Anais.T.Kirk)
Voted by: Invader Quirk, Asbestos Bill, Imrahil, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/bones.jpg)

and in Lens Flare land….

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/leonard_mccoy_alternate_reality-1.jpg)

 

Full Name: Dr. Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy
From: Star Trek
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Doctor…lady…DR. Lady!, Oh no, just a regular doctor. Also, emotional counterpoint to Spock’s crazy logic

Known For: Cursing his ship’s captain in order to advise he is a doctor, being slightly racist against Vulcans, stating to Capt Kirk that someone is deceased (he has used the phrase “He’s Dead, Jim” at least 20 times in TOS) and being the coolest character on the Enterprise (IMO).

Sci Fi Themes: Doctor’s can do anything…especially SPACE Doctors! In every decision one must take all factors, including morality and emotions, into account to make the best decision

Dossier: Leonard McCoy is a young southern doctor. He likes Mint Julips and is a little opposed to blood that isn’t red. Always taking into account people and their individual lives and needs, Bones has come to represent an emotional conscious for his Captain. Also, unlike Spock, Bones is not opposed to standing up to Capt Kirk for what he believes in, although he would only go against a direct order if it was absolutely necessary (or involved Mint Julips).
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 05:40:14 PM
#22 – Optimus Prime

(59 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 3 (Gunflyer and Darth Geek)
Voted by: Gunflyer, PakMan, Darth Geek

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/350px-Optimusg1.jpg)
 

Full Name: Optimus Prime
From: Transformers
Planet of Origin: Cybertron
Position: His official title: Great Robo-kicker of ass. Alternatively, he leads the Autobots and gives “sage” advise to Shia (this advice has never been, “Shut up”)

Known For: Being calm, cool, and collective in leadership situations….and when that fails, turning into a bad-ass semi.

Sci Fi Themes: Aliens that are cars! Robots that are in disguise! Winners don’t use drugs!

Dossier: Optimus Prime was born to a loving family. His father was Taco Truck and his mother was a dainty and feminine Hummer. They raised Optimus in the most loving way, always doting on him and his brother, Megatron (who they kept calling “Future leader of the Deceptions” for some strange reason). Alas, all was not perfect in the Prime household. Optimus’ dad liked to take weekend trips with his friends. Little did Optimus realize that on these trips his father would come to earth and wreak havoc. One of this weekend trips is documented and narrated by Emilio Estevez in the Academy Award winning “Maximum Overdrive.” On one of his final trips to earth, Optimus’ father was killed by a young man named Michael who lived in the Bay area. Vowing his vengeance, Optimus waits patiently for the day he can have his revenge.*


*I have no idea the story of Optimus Prime. Please feel free to mention the correct one

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 22, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Wooooooo!  Optimus!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 22, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
I can't believe I forgot to put McCoy on my list.  I also can't believe we are more then half way done with this list and not single Babylon 5  character has turned up.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 07:06:42 PM
What is Babylon 5 anyway?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2011, 07:10:42 PM
Why the Babylon Project was a dream given form. Its goal: to prevent another war by creating a place where humans and aliens could work out their differences peacefully. It was a port of call, home away from home for diplomats, hustlers, entrepreneurs, and wanderers. Humans and aliens wrapped in two million, five hundred thousand tons of spinning metal, all alone in the night. It could be a dangerous place, but it was our last, best hope for peace.

Or something like that.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 22, 2011, 07:11:10 PM
#23 – Bones



You forgot to mention, current keeper of the famous ancestral McCoy family recipe for baked beans.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 07:38:01 PM
#21 – Captain Jack

(59 Points) 3 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (FlockofRabidSheep)
Voted by: Gofyblind, LucasM, FlockofRabidSheep
 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Captain_Jack_Harkness_by_LadyRosefire.jpg)
 

Full Name: Captain Jack Harkness
From: Dr. Who, Torchwood, Many many people’s inner fantasies
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Head of Torchwood, a British organization that stops the supernatural

Known For: Being a WHORE. Also, being the first character on Dr Who that can’t get married in most states.

Sci Fi Themes: Aliens, Supernatural, Time Travel and SEX. LOTS AND LOTS OF SEX.

Dossier: Jack was a villain who became a hero after hanging out with Christopher Eccelston (probably the only man who can ever say that). Jack’s heroics include destroying his own ship by putting a bomb on it to say the Doctor and then throws himself at the mercy of the Daleks only to have them slowly eat him alive…..oh wait, no he just sacrificed himself to the Daleks, they didn’t eat him. Luckily for the Captain, Torchwood just happened to be hiring and Starz just happened to buy the show off of BBC.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 22, 2011, 07:39:17 PM
I've been rewatching B5 and I dunno if it's just that I'm older or more cynical, or what, but the bad CGI, bad acting (mostly from guest stars and walk-on roles, but still) and generally melodramatic tone seem really rampant this time around.  I think that's why I didn't prioiritize any B5 characters.
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]Thats why I generally reffer to it as the poor mans Deep Space Nine
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2011, 07:41:09 PM
Also, being the first character on Dr Who that can’t get married in most states
*cough*Adric*cough*
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 07:42:21 PM
Also, being the first character on Dr Who that can’t get married in most states
*cough*Adric*cough*


I got my info from Wiki


Also: The Zim picture has been updated
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2011, 07:43:12 PM
I told you not to do that.

Also I may be making a mean spirited aside.

Or maybe not (http://www.astabgay.com/Gay_Icons/adric.htm)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 22, 2011, 07:44:04 PM
#21 – Captain Jack

Known For: Being a WHORE.

Technically, he's a slut... he never charges anyone for it.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 22, 2011, 07:45:07 PM
I think John Barrowman said Cap'n Jack would screw just about any sexy humanoind, so it's possible he could get married.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 07:55:39 PM
#20 – Arnold Rimmer

(60 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (Dr. Who?)
Voted by: Doctor Who?, TripeHoundRedux, GofyBlind, Imrahil
 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/arnold_rimmer.jpg)
 

Full Name: Arnold Judas Rimmer
From: Red Dwarf
Planet of Origin: Lo
Position: Lowly (way looooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly) ship's engineer, hologram

Known For: Being darn tall, wearing a scarlett “A” on his….wait, wait, wearing an “H” (color unknown) on his forehead (H = Hologram), is a fish (according to his extensive Autobiography put together based on term papers).

Sci Fi Themes: Nature vs Nurture, Holograms are people too, Dying in radiation leaks sucks ass

Dossier: Arnold was basically forced into joining Space Corps because of his dad. Not that his father’s overbearing personality helped Arnold actually achieve anything in space corps. After several years, Rimmer outranks exactly one person on Red Dwarf, and is treated even worse after dying and coming back a Hologram. In his hologram life, the only person Rimmer really interacts with is that same individual he outranks. I wonder who that person could be…..
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 07:56:13 PM
#19 – Dave Lister

(69 Points) 3 of 18 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Gofyblind) Voted by: Gofyblind, Imrahil, and Johnny Unusual
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/6380007.jpg)

Full Name: David "Dave" Lister
From: Red Dwarf
Planet of Origin: Earth
 Position: Very low ranking office, victim of fortune, original doer of past nastification (as far as Wikipedia tells me)

Known For: Being Lazy, Enjoying the aroma of curry stains on ones shirt, and, of course, being an ouroboros, meaning that he represents an ever continuing cycle. He’s the never-ending story

Sci Fi Themes: Ourobros, or the idea of constant recreation and re-birth, in this case through past nastification. The idea that even the most insignificant orphan as a fate and reason for living.

Dossier: Born an orphan (or so he thinks), abanonded by his parents (or so he thinks), complete loser with nothing to offer the world (or so he thinks), Lister has had a comical and sad fate. Drinking, Sex, and philosophical conversations about the Flinstones with his cat notwithstanding, Lister is represented as an insignificant and lazy member of society; however, even his little life has meaning in the grand scheme of things. He’s like a 40 year old virgin.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2011, 07:56:47 PM
Io (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_(moon))
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 07:58:43 PM
If you are just going to nitpick tripe then....I'll just get all huffy at you  :P
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2011, 07:59:56 PM
I said nothing about what's below the home planet, well moon....

 ;)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 22, 2011, 08:03:08 PM
I told you not to do that.


The web page you did direct me to helped in no way
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2011, 08:04:12 PM
Depends on what you were going for, the themes it would have. :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 22, 2011, 08:15:30 PM
#20 – Arnold Rimmer

(60 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (Dr. Who?)
Voted by: Doctor Who?, TripeHoundRedux, GofyBlind, Imrahil
 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/arnold_rimmer.jpg)
 

Full Name: Arnold Judas Rimmer
From: Red Dwarf
Planet of Origin: Lo
Position: Head of Torchwood, a British organization that stops the supernatural

Known For: Being darn tall, wearing a scarlett “A” on his….wait, wait, wearing an “H” (color unknown) on his forehead (H = Hologram), is a fish (according to his extensive Autobiography put together based on term papers).

Sci Fi Themes: Nature vs Nurture, Holograms are people too, Dying in radiation leaks sucks ass

Dossier: Arnold was basically forced into joining Space Corps because of his dad. Not that his father’s overbearing personality helped Arnold actually achieve anything in space corps. After several years, Rimmer outranks exactly one person on Red Dwarf, and is treated even worse after dying and coming back a Hologram. In his hologram life, the only person Rimmer really interacts with is that same individual he outranks. I wonder who that person could be…..


I did not know Rimmer was the head of Torchwood,now I may have to start watching that show.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 22, 2011, 08:30:11 PM
To tell the truth I used to be a huge DS9 fan(I taped it every week when it first aired)but since I found B5 on DvD I have real trouble watching it.  DS9 is just so ripped off of B5 and it had twice the budget to worked with and more episodes but some how the scale feel a lot smaller and the pacing is nowhere near as good as B5.  B5 would often pack in as much plot in one episode as DS9 would in 5.  The character were much better written in B5 too.  Also I don't care that the CGi has dated,the fact is it was pretty good when the show first aired and the production team used it to give the show a scale that to be frank most modern Sci-Fi shows struggle to match.  Oh and I will second liking all the characters in B5,they were just so much better then any that have been in Star Trek.  I mean one week I hated Londo and wanted him dead the next i would be cheering for him and it felt natural,not forced.

Oh and the scores on B5 are so much better then anything that was ever done on Star Trek.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 22, 2011, 08:37:55 PM
I've been rewatching B5 and I dunno if it's just that I'm older or more cynical, or what, but the bad CGI, bad acting (mostly from guest stars and walk-on roles, but still) and generally melodramatic tone seem really rampant this time around.  I think that's why I didn't prioiritize any B5 characters.
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]Thats why I generally reffer to it as the poor mans Deep Space Nine

Thing is, the actual writing is generally a lot better. The dialogue is crisper, the plotting is tighter, and I like all the characters.  It also shows a more realistic use of the station and you really get a sense of the scale of the place--unlike DS9, which looks like 3 rooms around a small, crappy shopping mall.  And anyway, DS9 clearly ripped off lots of elements from it.

What's crazy is show creator Michael J Straczynski wrote the Lion's share of episodes, which is pretty impressive considering that most shows with 22 seasons wouldn't do that (though I'm sure some people here can think of counter-examples like the Twilight Zone).

It's weird, I just think B5 is just OK to me, but I think it has some amazing writing and when it is on it's game it's way on.  Of course, I never finished the series (watched the first three seasons and a few random season four eps) but while it has great writing, something about it just never stuck with me.  Still, it does have some really impressive moments (one of my favs being an episode named after a gospel song, which is also the soundtrack to a political assassination is amazing.  I also love the Sheridan gets interrogated episode.

Lister was on my list, but Rimmer is a great choice too.  I guess I prefer Lister for similar reasons as Arthur Dent, except while Lister isn't too quick and has nasty habits, I like the fact that he also has some strong values and that he teaches Kryten to be a jerk (which is a lot more positive than it sounds).  I also like the relationship between Rimmer and Lister and the fact that they can't stand each other is simultaneously driving each other mad, yet the conflict gives them something to focus on during their endless journey.  I also recommend the books based on the show, which play with some interesting ideas.

Never saw Back to Earth, but considering the negative reviews it got, I'm afraid to.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 22, 2011, 08:45:04 PM
I've been rewatching B5 and I dunno if it's just that I'm older or more cynical, or what, but the bad CGI, bad acting (mostly from guest stars and walk-on roles, but still) and generally melodramatic tone seem really rampant this time around.  I think that's why I didn't prioiritize any B5 characters.
[/quote

]Thats why I generally reffer to it as the poor mans Deep Space Nine

Thing is, the actual writing is generally a lot better. The dialogue is crisper, the plotting is tighter, and I like all the characters.  It also shows a more realistic use of the station and you really get a sense of the scale of the place--unlike DS9, which looks like 3 rooms around a small, crappy shopping mall.  And anyway, DS9 clearly ripped off lots of elements from it.

What's crazy is show creator Michael J Straczynski wrote the Lion's share of episodes, which is pretty impressive considering that most shows with 22 seasons wouldn't do that (though I'm sure some people here can think of counter-examples like the Twilight Zone).

It's weird, I just think B5 is just OK to me, but I think it has some amazing writing and when it is on it's game it's way on.  Of course, I never finished the series (watched the first three seasons and a few random season four eps) but while it has great writing, something about it just never stuck with me.  Still, it does have some really impressive moments (one of my favs being an episode named after a gospel song, which is also the soundtrack to a political assassination is amazing.  I also love the Sheridan gets interrogated episode.

Lister was on my list, but Rimmer is a great choice too.  I guess I prefer Lister for similar reasons as Arthur Dent, except while Lister isn't too quick and has nasty habits, I like the fact that he also has some strong values and that he teaches Kryten to be a jerk (which is a lot more positive than it sounds).  I also like the relationship between Rimmer and Lister and the fact that they can't stand each other is simultaneously driving each other mad, yet the conflict gives them something to focus on during their endless journey.  I also recommend the books based on the show, which play with some interesting ideas.

Never saw Back to Earth, but considering the negative reviews it got, I'm afraid to.

Don't.  The last episode where they do a spoof of Blade Runner is okay but the rest of it is pretty much the cast wondering around the modern world,making cheap jokes,and looking too old for the roles they are playing.  It's pretty sad.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 22, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
#27 – Mike Nelson

Over on the Cinematic Titanic forum, they're doing this exact same poll, except Joel got #27 instead of Mike.  >:D

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I can't believe how few movie entries there have been so far (my only contributions so far being the eponymous characters of Terminator & Robocop). The majority have been from TV shows, it seems, with some sprinklings of pop literature. I'm just not a TV person (outside of MST3K, The Daily Show, South Park, and the occasional episode of Twilight Zone/Outer Limits/Thriller). How many other movie people are there here; that is to say, those who enjoy films unriffed? (I know Darth Geek's a movie buff, but I haven't really discussed film with the rest)

I'm not complaining. Just... TV's alien to me.

To end on a positive note, I did feel some kinship when I saw that those who chose the Terminator chose the original Terminator, as opposed to Liquid Metal Terminator or Bloodrayne Terminator.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2011, 09:54:06 PM
Also, being the first character on Dr Who that can’t get married in most states
*cough*Adric*cough*
Also Captain Yates, depending on who you ask.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 22, 2011, 10:46:41 PM
I had a pretty even spread of Movie/TV characters, with 8 Movie characters, 11 TV characters and 6 video game characters (None of which, I'm starting to think, will make this list).

I think TV characters have the advantage because you have a longer time to get to know them. If a character doesn't grab you this week, they get to try again next week.

I've had literal DAYS to get to know the crew of the Planet Express on Futurama, for instance, but only 2 hours to spend with Rick Deckard from Blade Runner (Just as a for-instance). Therefore, there was a lot more time for the characters to endear themselves to me.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 22, 2011, 10:56:11 PM
I'm a movie centric person, but only half my list was movie folks. Sci-fi is one of the few genres where I'm actually fairly well spread over the various mediums, so my list gets around. I think when it comes to movies, though, while I can think of a ton of sci-fi movies I hold close to my heart, a lot of them I love more to the concepts and aesthetics and general nature of the story than the characters within (not that I don't love the characters to, they're just... not the primary focus, I guess is a way to put it).

I also had Lister on my, uh, list. I didn't have Rimmer, though I did put brief thought into including Ace Rimmer (what a guy!). I love Lister because he seems like the perfect, enjoyable everyman (enjoyable from a distance, at least; to have to live with him would drive anyone quite mad in a matter of minutes). He's just clever enough to get by in any situation and still seems to enjoy what space has to offer. Even if he really just wants to get back home to Fiji.

Also, I rather enjoyed the Back to Earth specials. It's been a while, but I'd definitely peg it above the last series, and it had enough funny moments (loved the Enhance parody scene) to get by. The general Blade Runner spoof was pretty sweet too. Still, I remember years and years ago, when I was looking forward to the movie. Saw the news and the makeup tests, and for far too long I wouldn't let go of the delusion that it was still coming...
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 22, 2011, 10:57:28 PM
Just about half my list has shown up in both the TV and film mediums (some in all three including literary.)

I would agree that TV characters have an advantage due to the fact that you can develop more of a relationship with them. I wonder if characters like Kenobi suffered (and Vader/Anakin might suffer) due to their substandard prequel manifestations.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 22, 2011, 11:50:58 PM
Good points.

Regarding relationships with television characters, I'm reminded of this friend I had in high school who was a huge fan of Star Trek: The Next Generation. One day he makes a crack about "Dixon Hill" in a Patrick Stewart voice. I'm like... "I gather this has something to do with Star Trek, but who the hell is Dixon Hill?!" He explains to me that it's Picard's favorite (fictional) author. I had to remind him "I don't watch the show, you can't expect me to know that."  :D

It's funny, though, it occurred to me that TV fans have a similar relationship to their material as cult movie fans when it comes to accumulating trivia & minutia. I like to revisit particular worlds, but I'd rather watch a film multiple times & pick up new things on subsequent viewings than devote myself to an ongoing drama. I suppose cult movie fans make their own relationships. (I also hate hate hate commercials, but DVD & streaming video make these more avoidable.)

My only minor disagreement would be that I don't think intellectual or cerebral sci-fi films are necessarily an exception; only if one is going by Hollywood standards, in which case, yes, the most popular sci-fi films tend to be sci-fi/action hybrids (I love the term "thinking man's action movie").

I suppose the compromise between TV shows & films are miniseries. Or, perhaps, radio shows. I've been meaning to listen to Orson Welles' original radio broadcast of War of the Worlds.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 23, 2011, 12:06:07 AM
I suppose the compromise between TV shows & films are miniseries. Or, perhaps, radio shows. I've been meaning to listen to Orson Welles' original radio broadcast of War of the Worlds.

That's a good time right there. I downloaded the broadcast on MP3 off Amazon for 99 cents, then burnt it onto a CD. Me and Tyrant listen to it as a Halloween tradition with the lights turned down low.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: gojikranz on August 23, 2011, 01:08:45 AM
i woulda had some B5 characters on mine if i had been paying attention.

b5 starts a bit slow but season 3-4 are, i think, some of the greatest sci fi television or just television period.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 23, 2011, 03:15:19 AM
b5 starts a bit slow but season 3-4 are, i think, some of the greatest sci fi television or just television period.

What I've said to people who I've talked to is similar, but a bit different: I think that Babylon 5 is probably the best SciFi that's been filmed (whether on TV or in movies).  The depth of the characters, the depth of the story, and the follow through are all exceptional.  [That is especially true if one mentally shuffles seasons 4+5 together... since Straczynski was told that the show would be dead after season 4 by the network, he had to cram the conclusion to the Earth war all into that one season, and eliminate the Psy war.  He intended them to overlap, just as the Shadow war and Earth wars overlapped.  Instead the fifth season has an almost 'tacked-on' feel, though I'm sure it would not have, had he been given the five years initially programmed for the one, massive, highly-interwoven story.]

The only problem I have with re-watching it (the next time will be my fourth I think) is consciously setting aside roughly 90 hours for one story.  ;D

It is, actually, the only science fiction that originated in an audio-visual medium where I have cared enough about the story to actually read books derived from it (the excellent - but roughly War and Peace-length - trilogy explaining what happened to Sheridan's son, Londo and G'Kar that was outlined by Straczynski and written by Peter David.  [One of the few writers to be allowed to script an episode of the TV series (the one dealing with Londo's wives), and whose run on the comic The Hulk was often extraordinary.  But I digress...  ;)  [And, yes, for those in the know, that last line was deliberate.]])

I liked Christopher Franke's music for the series, some of it independent of the series (i.e. some works out of context).  And for me, the fact that they were the first to try to go with all-computer effects, and pulled it off as well as they did, was remarkable in those days, when everyone else was still 'playing with toys'. ;)

Oh, and this from Wikipedia, for those comparing B5 to DS9 (keep in mind: DS9 was still my favorite Star Trek series... possibly for this reason):
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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine controversy
The pilot episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (DS9) aired just weeks before the debut of Babylon 5. Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczynski indicated that Paramount Television was aware of his concept as early as 1989,[57] when he attempted to sell the show to the studio, and provided them with the series bible, pilot script, artwork, lengthy character background histories, and plot synopses for 22 episodes "or so planned episodes taken from the overall course of the planned series".[58][59] Paramount passed on Babylon 5, but later announced Deep Space Nine was in development after Warner Bros. announced its plans for Babylon 5. Straczynski has stated on numerous occasions that, even though he's confident that Deep Space Nine producer/creators Rick Berman and Michael Piller did not see this material, he thinks Paramount may have used his bible and scripts to steer development of Deep Space Nine.[60][61]


It's funny, my brother and I were discussing TV vs. Film a while back (I came down heavily on the side of TV, as the ability to develop relationships between characters, and between characters and their environments can happen in a more believable fashion, not being crammed into usually a 90-120 minute timespan).  But I do acknowledge and appreciate the occasional remarkable film that has a believable progression during its time-frame.  [I don't know if anyone saw my photos of my film collection elsewhere in the forum, but they were not all RiffTrax'ed films.]

I agree with Imrahil: most so-called film SciFi tends to be
loud and explosiony and dumb
and - dare I say it - rarely actually SciFi, usually what calls itself SciFi in film and on TV tends to be 'Fantasy' or 'Action' in Space... that's not the same thing.


Well, as anyone that knows me knows, the fact that this post is as long as it is (and that some sentences never QUITE seem to end, with multiple detours before their conclusion ;) ), I'm waaaaaaay past my capacity and should've already been in bed trying to sleep.  [It's ~6:15am now.]  So I'm outta' here.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 05:38:35 AM
I actually think the movies vs TV angle has to do with what movies are considered iconic in the sci-fi genre. Take those movies and think about the characters you would spend HOURS defending and anaylsing. In my mind, there as much substance to the movie characters as to some of their TV counter-parts.

Also, Star Trek is movies more than TV amongs the general populace, I would say.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 23, 2011, 07:44:34 AM
I actually think the movies vs TV angle has to do with what movies are considered iconic in the sci-fi genre. Take those movies and think about the characters you would spend HOURS defending and anaylsing. In my mind, there as much substance to the movie characters as to some of their TV counter-parts.

Also, Star Trek is movies more than TV amongs the general populace, I would say.

Really? I wouldn't.  I mean, I guess the general populace under 20 might only know about the recent movie, but even that has made clear its roots in TV.

I think Anais might have meant comparing the OS movies to the OS shows & the TNG movies to the TNG shows; at least that's what sprang to my mind. I don't immediately think of Star Trek 2009* because these reboot incarnations have no televised antecedents (unless you count Old Spock [I almost typed Old Spice], but that's a debate I'm steering clear of).

Let's put it this way... I think pre-Abrams Star Trek movies are more likely to be a gateway to the show than vice versa. At least in my own personal experience as a film guy, the Borg as presented in First Contact I found such an interesting concept that I tracked down & watched the TNG episodes that dealt with the Borg. Similarly, The Wrath of Khan inspired me to watch "Space Seed".

*=(I must say, the most irritating thing about these remakes, reboots, "reinterpretations", sequels, etc, is that you can't simply say the title. You have to add the year or the director's name to specify whether you're talking about the original or the remake.)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 23, 2011, 09:24:31 AM
in response to your footnote: That's because they appropriate the fucking title of the previous franchise without a distinguishing mark. It's irritating.

Yeah, I mean, the prequel to "the Thing" is called "the Thing"?  Not "the Thing Lives" or "the Thing from Another World" or god forbid: "the Thing: Origins"?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 09:38:02 AM
That is exactly what I mean Katonic.


My absolute first introduction to Star Trek (outside of clips in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey) is watching Search for Spock. Then I watched Generations and First Contact. A part of me always wanted to watch the show, but I need to watch things in order and at the time (I was in high school, so 97 and 98) it was pretty hard to get entire seasons of a TV show. Then when they released the seasons on DVD, Star Trek was always really expensive. I tried renting the original via Netflix, but the order was really off from my research. Now that they are on instant watch, I can finally enjoy them
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 23, 2011, 09:49:02 AM
in response to your footnote: That's because they appropriate the fucking title of the previous franchise without a distinguishing mark. It's irritating.

Yeah, I mean, the prequel to "the Thing" is called "the Thing"?  Not "the Thing Lives" or "the Thing from Another World" or god forbid: "the Thing: Origins"?

Makes it all the more irritating when they insist it's not a remake, and then do it like that. I'm sure they're not the only example for something like that, either.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 23, 2011, 09:52:46 AM
I am not looking forward to next.  I mean at least the first Star Trek movie was called Star Trek the motion Picture so the 2009 movie was the first movie named Star Trek,but come next summer there will be two movies named Star Trek 2.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 10:19:59 AM
I am not looking forward to next.  I mean at least the first Star Trek movie was called Star Trek the motion Picture so the 2009 movie was the first movie named Star Trek,but come next summer there will be two movies named Star Trek 2.

Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Lens Flare


Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 23, 2011, 10:39:18 AM
I actually think the movies vs TV angle has to do with what movies are considered iconic in the sci-fi genre. Take those movies and think about the characters you would spend HOURS defending and anaylsing. In my mind, there as much substance to the movie characters as to some of their TV counter-parts.

Also, Star Trek is movies more than TV amongs the general populace, I would say.
I think Anais might have meant comparing the OS movies to the OS shows & the TNG movies to the TNG shows; at least that's what sprang to my mind. I don't immediately think of Star Trek 2009* because these reboot incarnations have no televised antecedents (unless you count Old Spock [I almost typed Old Spice], but that's a debate I'm steering clear of).

Let's put it this way... I think pre-Abrams Star Trek movies are more likely to be a gateway to the show than vice versa. At least in my own personal experience as a film guy, the Borg as presented in First Contact I found such an interesting concept that I tracked down & watched the TNG episodes that dealt with the Borg. Similarly, The Wrath of Khan inspired me to watch "Space Seed".

*=(I must say, the most irritating thing about these remakes, reboots, "reinterpretations", sequels, etc, is that you can't simply say the title. You have to add the year or the director's name to specify whether you're talking about the original or the remake.)
That is exactly what I mean Katonic.


My absolute first introduction to Star Trek (outside of clips in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey) is watching Search for Spock. Then I watched Generations and First Contact. A part of me always wanted to watch the show, but I need to watch things in order and at the time (I was in high school, so 97 and 98) it was pretty hard to get entire seasons of a TV show. Then when they released the seasons on DVD, Star Trek was always really expensive. I tried renting the original via Netflix, but the order was really off from my research. Now that they are on instant watch, I can finally enjoy them

First, to those who grew up after the original series aired, and who didn't live in an area where a local station had the TV shows on a constant-loop, the films may very well have been their introduction to the series.  I happened to see the original Star Trek TV series when it first aired (luckily, my dad was a mild SciFi buff or our house's TV wouldn't have been turned to that show).

But the reason those characters might have been so fascinating in the films is because they did have the years on TV to develop them and their relationships, regardless of whether you had seen them or not.  The depth and backstory was already there from the TV series before the films were made, so the films had that depth imbued within them.  It did not have to all be generated and explained within 90-120 minutes.

I think that most 'self-contained' SciFi films (i.e. 'SciFi films that didn't have character and relationship development that occurred elsewhere, most often on a TV series') are not able to create iconic characters that have depth and staying power.  That is because the characters and the relationships don't have to be 'introduced' as much if they have already had extensive backstory.  With the extensive backstory they had (on TV), the characters in the films 'live' more than they would if the films came out 'cold'.

There are exceptions of course (e.g. 'Blade Runner'), but the exceptions often are telling a limited story, either time-wise, or 'character-arc'-wise.  (And, though not a direct adaptation, even Blade Runner had the depth of Dick's original novel to 'feed' the film's effectiveness.)  Other times where that is true seem to be when the screenwriter spends the time, him/herself, extensively thinking through the backstory for all the characters and places that are 'in play' in the film, regardless of whether any of it is to be filmed.  With the turnover necessary for Hollywood (and for feeding one's family), that rarely happens.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 23, 2011, 12:04:20 PM
in response to your footnote: That's because they appropriate the fucking title of the previous franchise without a distinguishing mark. It's irritating.

Yeah, I mean, the prequel to "the Thing" is called "the Thing"?  Not "the Thing Lives" or "the Thing from Another World" or god forbid: "the Thing: Origins"?



You know Blair's famous quote "That thing wanted to be us!" He's talking about the prequel.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 12:05:34 PM
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You know Blair's famous quote "That thing wanted to be us!" He's talking about the prequel.

actually i dont. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 23, 2011, 01:30:37 PM
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You know Blair's famous quote "That thing wanted to be us!" He's talking about the prequel.

actually i dont.  
You gotta be fuckin' kidding...

 ;)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:03:47 PM
#18 – HAL - 9000

(71 Points) 6 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (Johnny Unusual)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Katonic, Johnny Unusual, Gofyblind, D.B. Barnes, Imrahil,

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Hal.jpg)
 

Full Name: Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer version 9000
From: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Planet of Origin: Earth (Urbana, IL to be precise)
Position: Maintainer of all shipboard systems on interplanetary missions, BFF to a lonely crew, very needy ex-gf type figure (think a computerized version of Alex from Fatal Attraction).

Known For: Asking Dave what he’s doing, expressing complex emotions through only his voice (kudos to Canadian voice actor Douglas Rain), and trying to kill EVERYONE….which somehow pushes Dave into the next dimension so he can be re-born as a star child? I am not sure what happens at that part actually, maybe I should read the book.

Sci Fi Themes: Robots…Robots with FEELINGS…Robots that can KILL

Dossier: Hal was created in a lab in Illinois (much like Robot Abraham Lincoln) in 1992 (or 1997 depending on book or film), which means he was created almost 20 years in the past for our sci-fi list. HAL’s momma, Dr. Chandra, was always riding HAL to be perfect, giving him those fancy cerebral implants that all the other mothers said were dangerous, but Dr. Chandra thought “to hell with that, my little HAL is winning that little miss beauty pageant so I can be on toddlers and tiarras.” Later in life, HAL makes a calculating error (he was thinking about his mother at the time) and Dave and his co-pilot, God, decide to shut HAL down; however, those pesky cognitive functions include a desire for self-preservation. HAL instead turns on those pesky humans, and, in one of the most brilliant scenes in all of cinema, slowly sings “Daisy Bell” while being aware of his own destruction. EPIC. I don’t think any of you guys read my dossier on Optimus Prime, so this dossier is a test…Did you pass?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:06:10 PM
#17 – Zaphod Beeblebrox

(72 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (TripeHoundRedux)
Voted by: TripeHoundRedux, Cole Stratton, Imrahil, Anais.T. Kirk, Relaxing Dragon

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zaphod1.jpg)

And later
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zaphod-plush-o.jpg)

Of wait, I mean
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/zaphod2.jpg)
 

Full Name: President Zaphod Beeblebrox I (or the Nothingth)
From: The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Planet of Origin: Betelgeuse
Position: Snake Oil Salesman, Politician, stealer of chicks we are interested in

Known For: Having two heads and three arms, caring more about fashion than actually doing his job, kidnapping himself

Sci Fi Themes: Politicians are stupid and merely talking heads, charisma wins elections….and chicks!

Dossier: Much like that other great charasmatic leader, Zapp Brannigan, let me merely run down the list of Zaphod’s impressive achievements:
•   invented the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster
•   was voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" seven times.
•   been described as "the best Bang since the Big One" by Eccentrica Gallumbits, and as "one hoopy frood" by others.
•   "owner of the hippest place in the universe" (his own left cranium), as voted on in a poll of the readers of the fictional magazine Playbeing.
•   briefly the President of the Galaxy (a role that involves no power whatsoever, and merely requires the incumbent to attract attention so no one wonders who's really in charge, a role for which Zaphod was perfectly suited).
•   the only man to have survived the Total Perspective Vortex,
•   used his position as President of the Galaxy to steal the Heart of Gold, a spaceship taking advantage of Infinite Improbability Drive, at its unveiling.








Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
#16 – Ellen Ripley

(73 Points) 7 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (Compound)
Voted by: Compound, Katonic, Cole Stratton, Darth Geek, Monty, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Relaxing Dragon

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Ripley.jpg)

Full Name: Ellen Ripley
From: The “Alien” Franchise (as long as Predator’s not involved)
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Warrant Officer/Lieutenant, Killer of the big nasty bug, doer of the big nasty bug (See Alien: Resurrection)

Known For: Wearing underpants a tad too small, kicking alien ass, and shaving her head and making it cool (unlike Demi Moore)

Sci Fi Themes: Girls Kick ASS! (All other themes pale in comparison to this one)

Dossier: Ripley was a member of the ship Nostromo. They were nicely making their way back to earth when they received a distress signal. Upon investigation, John Hurt gets a face hugger who plants an egg in his tummy. This egg later hatches and bursts through his gut. Parodies of these incidents can be seen in everything from MST3K (Tom looked so cute with that little face hugger) and Spaceballs (with Hurt revising his own role and stating “Oh no, not again.”) That cute little Alien became a big, bad ass monster Alien that liked to scare cats and kill Harry Dean Stanton. In the end, Ripley destroys the Alien with skimpy underpants power!

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:10:33 PM
#15 – Crow T. Robot

(76 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Darth Geek)
Voted by: Katonic, Invader Quirk, Cole Stratton, Darth Geek, D. B. Barnes

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Crow.gif)
 

Full Name: Crow T(he) Robot aka “Art”
From: Some show, I don’t know what it’s called
Planet of Origin: The Satellite of Love (although made from parts that come from Earth)
Position: Goofy sidekick, film director, lover of Adrian Barbeau

Known For: Watching bad movies and then becoming characters from the film, like the time he watched “Riding with Death” and became….Turkey Volume Guessing Man!!

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/turkeyvolumeguessingman.jpg)

And here is crow as a Belarian

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/belariancrow.jpg)

Also, is known to have his voice change inexplicably every seven years or so.

Sci Fi Themes: Evil Scientific Experiments, Inept Mad Scientists, the ability to eat and breathe in the middle of space for almost 10 years

Dossier: Crow's accomplishments during the show's run include:
•   Writing several screenplays, including
o   Earth vs. Soup (his seminal work) (seen in Earth vs the Spider)
o   Peter Graves at the University of Minnesota (Beginning of the End),
o   The Spy Who Hugged Me (Secret Agent Super Dragon)
o   Chocolate Jones and the Temple of Funk.
•   also wrote a rather poorly researched documentary titled Crow T. Robot's Bram Stoker's The Civil War,
•   Being an avid member of the Kim Cattrall and Estelle Winwood fan clubs.
•   Co-writing a satirical musical called Supercalifragilisticexpiali-wacky!
•   wrote a Christmas carol titled "Let's Have a Patrick Swayze Christmas", inspired by his favorite movie, "Road House"
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:11:27 PM
I heart Zaphod.  And Mark Wing-Davey's portrayal, though I like Sam Rockwell's too.

I heart you for hearting Zaphod
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:15:59 PM
#14 – Jean Luc Picard

(77 Points) 4 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (D. B. Barnes)
Voted by: Doctor Who?, Johnny Unusual, D. B. Barnes, FlockofRabidSheep

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/facepalm_picard2.jpg)

Full Name: Captain Jean Luc Picard
From: Star Trek: The Next Generation
Planet of Origin: Earth (La Barre, France…wait, he’s FRENCH, I had no idea)
Position: Captain of the Enterprise-D (Kirk having allowed the original to be destroyed in Star Trek 3), being the only man who can drink tea on a regular basis and still kick physical behind (unless Liam Neeson drinks tea), and sexiest bald man on the planet and beyond. Also, he loves to make things so.

Known For: The aforementioned bald head and tea drinking, also commands the Enterprise with an extremely different style, using diplomacy and leadership intelligence over his fists…therefore, his uniform didn’t rip nearly as often.

Sci Fi Themes: Mind over Matter, the French can fight (who knew), one should encourage iditiotic children instead of stranding them on Seti Alpha 6 (which is what I would have done to Wesley Crusher)

Dossier: Jean Luc totally knew he was destined for greatness. He fought hard to join starfleet academy and, once there, totally rocked archeaology, but was not perfect, having actual failed a semester of organic chemistry. This combination of hits and misses allowed Jean Luc to create a greater understanding people’s goodness and pitfalls. Picard was stabbed in the heart during a bar fight. Later he becomes a Borg, not once, not twice, but thrice! Throughout the series and movies, Picard has often struggled with two sides of himself, making him similar to Spock from TOS. Therefore, I propose Capt Picard is the love child of Spock and Capt Kirk ;)

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 23, 2011, 06:22:05 PM
When were the other 2 times he became a borg?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 23, 2011, 06:29:19 PM
I heart Zaphod.  And Mark Wing-Davey's portrayal, though I like Sam Rockwell's too.
Yep, probably the best part of the movie, aside for Neil Hannon's music
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:29:46 PM
Most Godlike Character – Paul Atriedes

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: TripeHoundRedux

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Paul.jpg)

Full Name: Paul Atreides, later known as Paul Muad'Dib)
From: That movie RVR likes
Planet of Origin: Caladan and Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuune
Position: Well..God

Known For: Being God, having bright Blue eyes, being played by the guy from Showgirls, The “Neo” of Dune

Sci Fi Themes:  Destination, riding worms, space travel
Dossier: The son of Duke Leto Atreides I and the Lady Jessica, Paul Atreides is the heir of House Atreides, a nuclear-armed aristocratic family that rules the planet Caladan. Early on, his father is forced to go to the Dune planet where he is then killed. Paul, his mamma, and his freaky ass baby sister go to live with the natives. There, the natives discove Paul is their messiah, and he, in turn, kills all the bad guys and rules the planet. Also, there was a movie made of this story, later riffed by RoninFox…check it out!

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:30:41 PM
#13 – Peter Venkman

(81 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (PakMan)
Voted by: PakMan, Johnny Unusual, Monty, Asbestos Bill, Anais.T. Kirk

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/venkman.jpg)

Full Name: Peter Venkman Ph.D (He holds PhD's in both parapsychology and psychology…and those are real!)
From: Ghostbusters
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Believer in the supernatural, charmer of possessed woman, buster of ghosts (also, first Ghostbuster to get “slimed”)

Known For: Being more into money and scheming than actual science, showing his true colors when he needs to, saying the BEST. LINE. EVER. “Dogs and Cats, living together, Mass Hysteria”

Sci Fi Themes:  $$$, Charisma, and the supernatural   

Dossier: Venkman was born in Brooklyn and met his co-Ghostbusters, Egon Spengler and Raymond Stantz during college. Realizing that the paranormal, in addition to being pretty darn cool, was an easy way to make money, Peter turned his focus to studying the paranormal. Whether he truly believes in his own field at the beginning of the Ghostbusters film is a matter of speculation, but he certainly does by the end when he falls in love with a woman who turns into a dog. Oddly enough, this woman happened to have killed Aliens in an alternate life, odd how she couldn’t kick a little Gozor ass.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:31:23 PM
When were the other 2 times he became a borg?

I don't know, I have yet to watch, but one of them was in the movies I know...
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 23, 2011, 06:32:05 PM
Most Godlike Character – Paul Atriedes

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: TripeHoundRedux
Love those books, hate that bastard. :)

Do like many of the other members of his family however.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 23, 2011, 06:39:44 PM
#15 – Crow T. Robot


Dossier: Crow's accomplishments during the show's run include:
•   Writing several screenplays, including
o   Earth vs. Soup (his seminal work) (seen in Earth vs the Spider)
o   Peter Graves at the University of Minnesota (Beginning of the End),
o   The Spy Who Hugged Me (Secret Agent Super Dragon)
o   Chocolate Jones and the Temple of Funk.
•   also wrote a rather poorly researched documentary titled Crow T. Robot's Bram Stoker's The Civil War,
•   Being an avid member of the Kim Cattrall and Estelle Winwood fan clubs.
•   Co-writing a satirical musical called Supercalifragilisticexpiali-wacky!
•   wrote a Christmas carol titled "Let's Have a Patrick Swayze Christmas", inspired by his favorite movie, "Road House"

I feel compelled to make Crow multidimensional, thus referencing once more Episode 821: "Time Chasers".

Quote
Host segment 1: Tom sends Crow back in time to convince Mike the dude to stop taking temp jobs
Host segment 2: Crow succeeds and, returning to the SOL, finds Mike’s big brother Eddie in Mike’s place, and learns that Mike’s new future was worse than the old one
Host segment 3: Having seen the future, Crow returns to the past to keep Crow from performing his mission

• This episode got internet fans talking about the number of Crows that are out there—remember you also need to count the one that went back in time in Terror from the Year 5000!
 http://www.mst3kinfo.com/?p=4727 (http://www.mst3kinfo.com/?p=4727)

I like to think that Crow has more alternate timelines than Spock or John Connor.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:45:19 PM
#13 – Peter Venkman

(81 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (PakMan)
Voted by: PakMan, Johnny Unusual, Monty, Asbestos Bill, Anais.T. Kirk

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/venkman.jpg)


Doh, blanked on Ghostbusters.

I had the hugest crush on him when I was a kid (cartoon and live action)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 23, 2011, 06:45:56 PM
See I don't count Ghostbusters as Sci Fi personally
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:47:50 PM
See I don't count Ghostbusters as Sci Fi personally

What do you count it as? Because (due to the lack of Buffy characters) I might propose a top supernatural characters
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 23, 2011, 06:49:25 PM
Pretty much, horror/supernatural .

It's absolutely one of my favourite movies but I don't think of it as sci fi.

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 06:50:18 PM
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I had the hugest crush on him when I was a kid (cartoon and live action)

Peter or Bill Murray?  As much as i like Bill his hair is really scraggly.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 06:51:22 PM
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I had the hugest crush on him when I was a kid (cartoon and live action)

Peter or Bill Murray?  As much as i like Bill his hair is really scraggly.

The character. Not sure why I had a crush on him, but the fact that I keep saying he is charming has something to do with it I am sure
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 06:56:04 PM
Is he really?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 23, 2011, 07:01:05 PM
When were the other 2 times he became a borg?

I don't know, I have yet to watch, but one of them was in the movies I know...

He was only assimilated once.  The scene in the movie(First Contact) was a flashback to Best of Both Worlds.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 23, 2011, 07:06:21 PM
Pretty much, horror/supernatural .

It's absolutely one of my favourite movies but I don't think of it as sci fi.

I'll have to concur with this. Ghostbusters is a "paranormal comedy" or something like that. If Ghostbusters counts, might as well include Beetlejuice & Gremlins. The "Handbook For the Recently Deceased" is nothing if not scientific.   ;)

Btw, cheers to everyone who listed HAL-9000.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 07:07:42 PM
What about the handbook for proton blasters?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 23, 2011, 07:14:10 PM
What about the handbook for proton blasters?

                                                                                                                   
Chapter One
 
The joys of not crossing the streams


Imagine all life as you know it stopping instaenously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 23, 2011, 07:21:03 PM
anais.TKirk, I just want to reiterate something I said way earlier in this thread: reading your summaries, even for characters I might otherwise skip, is an absolute joy!  And reading them for characters I like is even better [loved the Hal9000 backstory!]

Kudos, and keep it up.  This has already been the most fun LoC in my memory.   ;D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 23, 2011, 07:51:53 PM
anais.TKirk, I just want to reiterate something I said way earlier in this thread: reading your summaries, even for characters I might otherwise skip, is an absolute joy!  And reading them for characters I like is even better [loved the Hal9000 backstory!]

Kudos, and keep it up.  This has already been the most fun LoC in my memory.   ;D


YAY! You have passed
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 23, 2011, 07:54:52 PM
What about the handbook for proton blasters?
Oh sure there are Sci Fi elements, I just don't think of it as Sci Fi though, too much of the occult to it.

I've told of my frustration with maths class connected to Ghostbusters right?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 23, 2011, 07:59:52 PM
What about the handbook for proton blasters?
Oh sure there are Sci Fi elements, I just don't think of it as Sci Fi though, too much of the occult to it.

I've told of my frustration with maths class connected to Ghostbusters right?

Yeah, I certainly can understand not seeing it that ways, but I personally think it does since it has characters who use tech and scientific methods in order to combat the supernatural.  It's all about the approach.  Still, can see it the other way too.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 23, 2011, 08:01:27 PM
Yeah ever since I saw it at 8, I've always been more interested in the spiritual/supernatural elements.

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 23, 2011, 08:38:51 PM
It occurs to me that great marketing would have been to publish Tobin's Spirit Guide.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 23, 2011, 09:17:35 PM
#18 – HAL - 9000

Six lists. Nice! By far the most compelling computer ever.

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Dossier: Hal was created in a lab in Illinois (much like Robot Abraham Lincoln) in 1992 (or 1997 depending on book or film), which means he was created almost 20 years in the past for our sci-fi list. HAL’s momma, Dr. Chandra, was always riding HAL to be perfect, giving him those fancy cerebral implants that all the other mothers said were dangerous, but Dr. Chandra thought “to hell with that, my little HAL is winning that little miss beauty pageant so I can be on toddlers and tiarras.” Later in life, HAL makes a calculating error (he was thinking about his mother at the time) and Dave and his co-pilot, God, decide to shut HAL down; however, those pesky cognitive functions include a desire for self-preservation. HAL instead turns on those pesky humans, and, in one of the most brilliant scenes in all of cinema, slowly sings “Daisy Bell” while being aware of his own destruction. EPIC. I don’t think any of you guys read my dossier on Optimus Prime, so this dossier is a test…Did you pass?

 :D Well done!

#15 – Crow T. Robot

Yes! Although now that I now Kirk's gonna beat out Picard, I should've voted Crow #1. Belieau's Crow was great and then Corbett pulled off the seemingly impossible task of making him even better.

"I think you're uncomfortable acknowledging Crow as a sexual being."
http://www.youtube.com/v/Hws16jiT5ZA?version=3&hl=en_US

I like to think that Crow has more alternate timelines than Spock or John Connor.

Things really get crazy when you figure in loaner Crows.
http://www.youtube.com/v/aCHyedeYQT8?version=3&hl=en_US


#14 – Jean Luc Picard


I'm a little disappointed he didn't place higher and that Kirk's gonna beat him. I'm biased because TNG was my favorite of all the shows and the one I was most into. Oh well, not a bad showing at all.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 23, 2011, 09:36:01 PM
#18 – HAL - 9000

Six lists. Nice! By far the most compelling computer ever.

He's got nothing on Deep Thought, but he's not a bad little glowing red eye.

Oh man, that's a total space out on my part. I only had one character from Hitchhiker's on my list but I should've included Deep Thought. It's been too long and I've lost too many brain cells since I read the books. I think I may try and rectify this with the audio books.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 23, 2011, 10:07:20 PM
i know hes not technically a sci fi character but...... i think comic book guy should be on here somewhere. if only to just keep him from saying "worst top 50 sci fi charecters ever"

now that i think about im laughing cause im going over this list with him running a commentary in my head
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 23, 2011, 10:18:40 PM
Barnes? Picard is your number 1 favorite sci-fi character? Yes, why don't we Baldly
go where no man has gone before, eh monsieur? When he was a kid, his mother
used to buy clothes for him from a store called "Wee Monsieur"
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 23, 2011, 10:23:30 PM
Barnes? Picard is your number 1 favorite sci-fi character? Yes, why don't we Baldly
go where no man has gone before, eh monsieur? When he was a kid, his mother
used to buy clothes for him from a store called "Wee Monsieur"

uh dude you're insulting captain Jean Luc Picard. on a forum full of die hard nerds......in a thread specifically created for said nerds. of which im one and hold Picard in damn high esteem especially considering TNG was what made me into the trekkie i am today
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 23, 2011, 10:26:39 PM
uh dude you're insulting captain Jean Luc Picard. on a forum full of die hard nerds......in a thread specifically created for said nerds. of which im one and hold Picard in damn high esteem especially considering TNG was what made me into the trekkie i am today
Want to know what Picard would say?
TREKKIES! I LOVE THEM, SO GENTLE! :D

Honestly, it wasn't so much an insult as it was a poke at what I perceive to be unwarranted praise. Even I wouldn't
put Kirk at number 1, however...

Kirk is like this: I'm going to count to three, then fire... 1, 2..FIRE!
Picard is like: I'm going to count to three, then fire, 1, 2, 3, I'm serious now!, 4, 5, should we discuss this further?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 23, 2011, 10:44:25 PM
Picard is like: I'm going to count to three, then fire, 1, 2, 3, I'm serious now!, 4, 5, should we discuss this further?

You should probably watch First Contact.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 23, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
sorry i think i just let my nerd side get the better of me for a second. the only time i ever did something like this before was when i got into a very heated argument about some aspect or other of a super man story arc.... i mean really heated i was quoting specific issues and everything
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 23, 2011, 10:49:59 PM
I see Ghostbusters as more of a Sci-Fi/Supernatural/Comedy movie. If it was just guys encountering ghosts, I'd say it's not sci-fi, but it delves into the technological methods and not-yet-existing technologies that allow the entrapment of ghosts. That's what pushes it into the realm of Sci-Fi to me.

(Well, really, Space Opera, but if we were only using TRUE Sci-Fi very little of this stuff would have qualified)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 23, 2011, 10:52:05 PM
Picard is like: I'm going to count to three, then fire, 1, 2, 3, I'm serious now!, 4, 5, should we discuss this further?

You should probably watch First Contact.
That's my problem with First Contact actually. he's this enlightened intellectual in the series, then all of a sudden
NO reason, he turns into a murdering psychopath who yells "NOOOOOO!!!" then destroys his own Starship
Trophy cabinet. That's NOT Picard. Picard from the series never would have done such a thing, he became an
action hero in First Contact just because Berman wanted him to be.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 23, 2011, 10:54:31 PM
No reason??  Have you seen Best of Both Worlds?  I think he's got a few  good reasons to be super pissed at the Borg.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 23, 2011, 10:58:53 PM

Quote
Picard is like: I'm going to count to three, then fire, 1, 2, 3, I'm serious now!, 4, 5, should we discuss this further?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctCM2NEqqX4&feature=related
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 11:01:09 PM
Quote
Picard is like: I'm going to count to three, then fire, 1, 2, 3, I'm serious now!, 4, 5, should we discuss this further

I cannot over emphasize the fact that in the first season he willingly without a fight surrendered his vessel TWICE.   Captain Picard is a neat diplomat with a regal voice, but no captain.  (although i will admit he got MUCH better at it as seasons went on).  

Quote
Picard from the series never would have done such a thing

I think they made it pretty clear that mentally he was scarred by what happened to him at the hands of the borg.  He later attempts to destroy the collective using Hugh as a plague carrier against Hugh's knowledge.   They totally established his hatred (and total fear i think) of the borg.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 23, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
No reason??  Have you seen Best of Both Worlds?  I think he's got a few  good reasons to be super pissed at the Borg.
The thing is they addressed that in post-"Best of both worlds" episodes like I, Borg and Descent. Picard
could have gone all genocidal on the Borg back then, but he didn't! Picard clearly has a strong sense of
ethics, and isn't going to just murder his own crew if they're turning into borg because HE was turned into
a borg and saved too. His behavior in First Contact is just contrary to everything about the man! But then
again, that's par for the course with ALL the Next Gen movies.

He later attempts to destroy the collective using Hugh as a plague carrier against Hugh's knowledge.   They totally established his hatred (and total fear i think) of the borg.
Nope, he  actually decided against sending Hugh back without the virus, or whatever it was. And Admiral
Nechayev berated him later for not doing it. Dammit, hasn't anybody here ever watched all the other Borg
episodes?!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 11:05:54 PM
uh why are you ignoring my comment about picards attempt at genocide?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 23, 2011, 11:06:59 PM
uh why are you ignoring my comment about picards attempt at genocide?
See my response above please. :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 23, 2011, 11:08:34 PM
I think this LoC has generated more discussion and debate than any other LoC.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 23, 2011, 11:09:54 PM
I think this LoC has generated more discussion and debate than any other LoC.
It's possible Pak.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 23, 2011, 11:10:25 PM
I, Borg and Descent were small to individual incidents in fringe space.  Not a full out assault by the Borg in strength on his homeworld.  Like Sarc said, he very nearly used Hugh to destroy the entire collective in I, Borg.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 11:14:57 PM
Yeah thats what i said NEARLY im sure its in the somewhere (good cover side)  lol

But i really do think they made it clear he would be happy to obliterate them and he finds them full scale evil and a deep scar has been placed on his psyche.  I think its something they illustrated quite clearly and its one of the things i liked about TNG. 

All this is irrelevant because like i said he is a diplomat.  Not a captain :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 11:15:34 PM
I think this LoC has generated more discussion and debate than any other LoC.
It's possible Pak.

I disagree
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 23, 2011, 11:20:26 PM
I think this LoC has generated more discussion and debate than any other LoC.
It's possible Pak.

I disagree
Then we must agree to disagree disagreeably.

I, Borg and Descent were small to individual incidents in fringe space.  Not a full out assault by the Borg in strength on his homeworld.  Like Sarc said, he very nearly used Hugh to destroy the entire collective in I, Borg.
Nearly only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades, and in this case my buddy Sideswipe,
we are dealing with neither. :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 23, 2011, 11:21:18 PM
I cannot over emphasize the fact that in the first season he willingly without a fight surrendered his vessel TWICE.   Captain Picard is a neat diplomat with a regal voice, but no captain.  (although i will admit he got MUCH better at it as seasons went on).  

It's been a while since I watched season 1, but I would like to point out that one of those time he surrender was to a, for all intents and pourposes, a superpowerfull GODLIKE bieng.  
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 11:27:22 PM
Actually if i remember right it was both times if i remember right.  Heres the things as i see it.  If you are powerless entirely, then your surrender/nonsurrender has no consequence one way or the other.  He went with surrender without any hesitation if i remember.  Damn it all now im gonna have to watch them all again to double check myself. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 11:27:52 PM
Quote
hen we must agree to disagree disagreeably.

I will fight you tooth and nail over this.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 23, 2011, 11:31:35 PM
I heart Zaphod.  And Mark Wing-Davey's portrayal, though I like Sam Rockwell's too.
It's funny, much as I enjoy the movie, I don't care as much for Rockwell's performance. I certainly liked it, but he seemed to be playing the character in a much more stupid manner than he should've been. Zaphod's not stupid, he's pretty cunning. He's also just really, really laid back about everything, so I guess it's an easy mistake to make.

Whatever the case, I, too, still <3 Zaphod.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 23, 2011, 11:33:30 PM
He was bascily playing Zaphod as George W. Bush.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 23, 2011, 11:37:35 PM
Quote
hen we must agree to disagree disagreeably.

I will fight you tooth and nail over this.
told you saying something about picard would start something
*grabs his bat'leth and puts on his pointy ears*
lets get this over with then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AphxyjrH4SE
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
I am not fighting about Picard.  I am fighting about whether or not this LOC has generated the most discussion and debate.

Its not really your epic spock kirk battle its more like this

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 23, 2011, 11:57:32 PM
oh alrite never mind then no worries
... but im keeping my bat'leth out just in case somebody makes the slightest remark about science fiction that i disagree with...ha
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 23, 2011, 11:58:41 PM
Sci fi is pointless childishness. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 24, 2011, 04:36:20 AM
Sci fi is pointless childishness.  

science fiction 
noun
a form of fiction that draws imaginatively on scientific knowledge and speculation in its plot, setting, theme, etc.

You are clearly thinking of Crocodile Dentist.  This is an honest mistake and one made all too often.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 24, 2011, 07:45:43 AM
Sci fi is pointless childishness. 
Dad? Why are you posting on the Rifftrax forums?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 24, 2011, 09:17:32 AM
Sci fi is pointless childishness. 

Unlike reality tv and TMZ,those are so adult.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 24, 2011, 09:29:49 AM
Sci fi is pointless childishness. 

Unlike reality tv and TMZ,those are so adult.
Dude, they are SO mature, bro.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 24, 2011, 09:58:47 AM
I was thinking of Crocodile Dentist!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 24, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
Yea because it's not as though the scifi genre has influenced the advancement of human technology over the past century.....
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 24, 2011, 10:02:38 AM
Truth!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 24, 2011, 10:41:49 AM
Truth it hasn't?

Also i like how so many people are responding seriously (i assume) to the guy who is calling himself Sarcasm made easy
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 24, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
it has
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 24, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwVebk2AjavdQDanSLeCarNPG3mO2aL65-KBFvAMzqZUeHOSfK3Q)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 24, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
(http://dennisjudd.com/albums/funpics/wffy.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 12:04:54 PM
I think this LoC has generated more discussion and debate than any other LoC.
It's possible Pak.

I disagree

Your mother
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 24, 2011, 12:26:29 PM
MY MOTHER WAS A SAINT!

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le428uBCNR1qdh0kpo1_400.jpg
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 24, 2011, 12:29:41 PM
Oh so is mine. My grandmother however was a complete tart, her stories are far more entertaining.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 24, 2011, 12:36:10 PM
(http://dennisjudd.com/albums/funpics/wffy.jpg)
That was the episode where Picard swapped bodies with the AVGN
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: gojikranz on August 24, 2011, 04:03:23 PM
me and my brothers favorite line to quote to eachother is probably still.

"the line must be drawn here!"    its great for any occasion.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 24, 2011, 04:08:16 PM
me and my brothers favorite line to quote to eachother is probably still.

"the line must be drawn here!"    its great for any occasion.

Yeah I use that whenever burger king puts pickles on my burger after I told them "no pickles".
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 24, 2011, 04:25:10 PM
me and my brothers favorite line to quote to eachother is probably still.

"the line must be drawn here!"    its great for any occasion.

I use that a lot when I'm doing graphics work.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 24, 2011, 05:13:56 PM
me and my brothers favorite line to quote to eachother is probably still.

"the line must be drawn here!"    its great for any occasion.

It's why the First Contact Connect the Dots Book was so easy.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: goflyblind on August 24, 2011, 05:15:25 PM
me and my brothers favorite line to quote to eachother is probably still.

"the line must be drawn here!"    its great for any occasion.

i say that at crime scenes while pointing at the body. no one else seems to find it quite so funny. :-\
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 24, 2011, 05:20:25 PM
me and my brothers favorite line to quote to eachother is probably still.

"the line must be drawn here!"    its great for any occasion.

That's the name of the first chapter of my teach yourself to draw book.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 07:40:29 PM
#12 – Bender

(87 Points)  6 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 5 (Gofyblind)
Voted by: Doctor Who?, Darth Geek, Monty, Gofyblind, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk, Relaxing Dragon


(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/1028071406.jpg)

Oh wait, that’s not the one you guys voted for

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/bender.png)

There we go
 

Full Name: Bender Bending Rodriguez (aka Bending Unit 22)
From: Futurama
Planet of Origin: Earth (Made in a in a factory in Tijuana, MX)
Position: Ship’s “cook,” alcoholic, whore-mongering, chain-smoking gambler, Bender of things not bent,

Known For: Drinking, Smoking, Stealing, and his love of Folk Music. Also, having a swarthy Latin charm

Sci Fi Themes:  Robots…Robots that do everything a human secretly wants to do (Drinking, Smoking, and Stealing with no consequences), Robots as BFFs

Dossier: What hasn’t Bender done? He was buried in Roswell from the 1950s to 3002 or 3003, he has stolen every major work of art, caused the destruction of earth civilization (one of the times), rescued a turtle from an over heated death, tossed Nibbler down the toilet only to go rescue him later…and the list goes on. Oh, also, changed his Gender to win the Olympics:

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Bend_her.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 24, 2011, 07:42:15 PM
only patrick stuart can say the word 'here!' and have it be three syllables long
anyway
Quote
me and my brothers favorite line to quote to eachother is probably still.

"the line must be drawn here!"    its great for any occasion.

thats the line i use to make my iconic bugs bunny cartoons
speaking of which is duck dodgers on this list
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 07:43:53 PM
#11 – Spike Speigal

(89 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 3 (PakMan)
Voted by: PakMan, Invader Quirk, Asbestos Bill, Compound, FlockofRabidSheep, Relaxing Dragon

 

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Spike_Spiegel___Bang_by_Graytiv.png)

Full Name: Spike Spiegel (スパイク・スピーゲル Supaiku Supīgeru?)
From: Cowboy Bebop
Planet of Origin: Mars
Position: Bounty Hunter

Known For: Martial Arts style of Jeet Kundo, left a mafia syndicate that he was supposed to lead (due to jealousy issues with his BFF), uses slieght of hand in a way that would make Gob Bluth very envious, and is very (VERY) handy with a firearm.

Sci Fi Themes: Space Bounty Hunting, Living your own life, Destiny   

Dossier: Spike was a rising member of the Red Dragon Crime Syndicate until he got wounded and fell in love with his best friend’s girl (scholars believe this incident was the correct inspiration for “Jessie’s girl.” Hoping he could go off with his girl and not get killed, Spike faked his own death. His girl, however, never showed….

Spike’s ending is not an end, but actually a determination to see if he ever truly lived.

BANG!


Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 24, 2011, 07:48:48 PM
Im just living a dream i can wake up from.  Spike was amazing. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 07:49:08 PM
#10 – Darth Vader

(91 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Imrahil)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Cole Stratton, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Relaxing Dragon

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/113774-darth_vader.jpg)

Full Name: Anakin “Sand Hater” Skywalker
From: Star Wars Episodes 4-6
Planet of Origin: Tatooine
Position: Sith Lord, Personal Beotch to the Emperor, impregnator of Natalie Portman

Known For: Da Da Da, da da da, da da da. Also known for, having a beautiful black exterior and a crippled old white man underneath.

Sci Fi Themes:  Destiny (running theme I have noticed), Giving in to your hate, Redemption

Dossier: Look, we all know what happened to Anakin/Vader. It’s a typical “beware of your own talent because it can make you evil” story. Along the way, we learned that Anakin hates (I mean HATES) sand (he says it get’s “everywhere” but what he means exactly is never explained). Anakin also will go in killing sprees that make him feel icky inside.

Vader, on the other hand. Is a BADASS. If Vader’s helmet had an engraving it would say “Bad Mother Fucker on it.” He is cool, calm, collected, and will kill just because he has an itchy force finger. The real depth of his character occurs in The Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi when he reveals his own identity to his son and then saves the little mini-Padme.

Then Lucas shites all over him by having Hayden Christiansen be in the updated Return of the Jedi

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/haydenjedi2.jpg)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 07:52:38 PM
#9 – Tom Servo

(96 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Darth Geek)
Voted by: Invader Quirk, Cole Stratton, Darth Geek, Monty, D. B. Barnes, Relaxing Dragon

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/mst3k-tom-servo-president.jpg)

Full Name: Tom Servo
From: MST3K
Planet of Origin: The Satellite of Love (although made from parts that come from Earth)
Position: Singer of dainty ballads, explorer of uncharted elements of the SOL (Almost invariably, however, any attempts at confronting danger or displaying his intellectual skill cause him such frustration that he ends up crying), lover of underwear, and counterpart to # 15

Known For: Being a squat crimson pig, liking to make bad puns, getting into brotherly fights with Crow and mocking Mike.

Sci Fi Themes:  Is collecting underwear and crying all the time a theme?   

Dossier:

http://www.youtube.com/v/4RHVoFpncgA?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
Oh for Fuck sake, how to I embed Youtube vids again?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 24, 2011, 07:58:14 PM
Oh for Fuck sake, how to I embed Youtube vids again?

On the YouTube page, click the 'Share' button, then click the 'Embed' button, then check the box labeled 'Use old embed code'. Copy the url within the embed code and put that inside the flash tags, and then specify the size.

Like this:

Code: [Select]
[flash=420,345]http://www.youtube.com/v/p6xgewsUHqY?version=3&amp;hl=en_US[/flash]
http://www.youtube.com/v/p6xgewsUHqY?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 07:58:36 PM
#8 – Ford Prefect

(102 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 4 (Tripe and Anais)
Voted by: TripeHoundRedux, PakMan, D. B. Barnes, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk, Relaxing Dragon

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Ford_Prefect.jpg)

And

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Ford2.jpg)

 

Full Name: His real name is quite unpronouncable
From: The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
Planet of Origin: A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse
Position: Journalist and writer for The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, the greatest selling guidebook ever known, friend and comedic sidekick to # 26

Known For: Always, I mean ALWAYS knowing where his towel is, being a rather mellow fellow, enjoying all sorts of crazy adventures

Sci Fi Themes:  Exploring new worlds, friendship, and always knowing where your towel is (Yes it is a theme!)   

Dossier: Ford came to Earth for a week and stayed for several years because he just found British people to have the best teeth! Actually, he was stranded. In an attempt to make due, Ford befriends Arthur and decides to take Arthur with him when he hitchhikes away on a Vulcan vessel. He appears in all 4 of the major sequels to this trilogy and has numerous adventures with Arthur.


Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 24, 2011, 08:01:23 PM
#8 – Ford Prefect

(102 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 4 (Tripe and Anais)
Voted by: TripeHoundRedux, PakMan, D. B. Barnes, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk, Relaxing Dragon

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Ford_Prefect.jpg)

And

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Ford2.jpg)

 

Full Name: His real name is quite unpronouncable
From: The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
Planet of Origin: A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse
Position: Journalist and writer for The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, the greatest selling guidebook ever known, friend and comedic sidekick to # 26

Known For: Always, I mean ALWAYS knowing where his towel is, being a rather mellow fellow, enjoying all sorts of crazy adventures

Sci Fi Themes:  Exploring new worlds, friendship, and always knowing where your towel is (Yes it is a theme!)   

Dossier: Ford came to Earth for a week and stayed for several years because he just found British people to have the best teeth! Actually, he was stranded. In an attempt to make due, Ford befriends Arthur and decides to take Arthur with him when he hitchhikes away on a Vulcan vessel. He appears in all 4 of the major sequels to this trilogy and has numerous adventures with Arthur.




I once saw an interview where Adams said that Ford is just The Doctor if The Doctor was more interested in going to parties then saving planets. I find that an interesting idea since he does kind of remind me of Peter Davison's Doctor.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 08:02:58 PM
Thanks D.B. Why is that so needlessly complicated
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 24, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
Thanks D.B. Why is that so needlessly complicated

You're most welcome. I think it has something to do with how the forum software deals with videos.  ???


#10 – Darth Vader

(91 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Imrahil)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Cole Stratton, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Relaxing Drago

Five lists?!? What the hell is goin' on?

It's the prequels, isn't it? Goddamn prequels.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 08:08:14 PM
#7 – Fry

(104 Points) 7 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Invader Quirk)
Voted by: Doctor Who?, PakMan, Invader Quirk, Johnny Unusual, Monty, Asbestos Bill, FlockofRabidSheep

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Fry_Vulcan_Salute_by_javoec.png)

Full Name: Phillip James Fry
From: Futurama
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Delivery boy at Planet Express, originally, the original doer of the nasty in the pasty until I started compiling this list, the “Neo” of the Niblonians

Known For: His clumsy, goofy, and charming manner, having a robot for a BFF, and crushing on (and sometimes getting with) the lady Leela.

Sci Fi Themes:  Again, Destiny. Also cryogenic freezing and being BFFs with a robot and in love with a one-eyed “alien”
Dossier: Born in the twentieth century in New York City Fry is an average, thoroughly unremarkable loser in his mid 20s. He is a pizza delivery boy who, during the first few seconds of the year 2000, fell into a cryonic tank while delivering a pizza to Applied Cryogenics. He remains frozen until the last day of the year 2999. He then meets the one-eyed career officer Leela, and a cigar-smoking, booze-fueled, kleptomaniac robot Bender. Together, they are employed by Fry's distant nephew, the senile and demented old scientist Prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth, as the crew of his delivery company Planet Express.


Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 08:09:22 PM
#6 – Mal

(107 Points) 6 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Compound)
Voted by: Compound, PakMan, Cole Stratton, Johnny Unusual, Asbestos Bill, LucasM

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Mal23.jpg)
 

Full Name: Captain Malcolm Reynolds
From: Firefly and Serenity
Planet of Origin: Shadow
Position: Former Browncoat, Captain of the Serenity, complete ignorer of the fact that he could totally bone Inara.

Known For:  Hating religon but still believing in the goodness of humaity, being uber protective of his crew and NEVER GETTING IT ON WITH INSARA! I mean WTF, Mal!

Sci Fi Themes:  Faith in humanity (his and others) despite seeing the worst humanity has to offer, Lack of Faith in government, strict protection of those nearest and dearest to you.
Dossier: Mal Reynolds joined the Independents Army and fought against the Alliance before the show’s timeline. During his time in the army he met, and became closest to, Zoe. Broken and empty after the war, Mal decides it’s better to drift and continue instead of create a life. He takes Zoe, hires a crew, and becomes a space pirate! Argh!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 24, 2011, 08:18:57 PM
Like Lister and Arthur Dent, Fry is a great everyman character.  It would be easy to label him as a young Homer Simpson, but while they're equally incompetent, Fry has a lot going for him.  He's amazingly adaptable (see "the Cryonic Woman") and he reflects the best and worst of mankind.  But I think it's the fact that he's a character who is exactly where he wants to be in life (after all, all of his boy and manhood dreams of space travel have come true) and more often than not, he's really appreciative of that.  He may not be as smart as most sci-fi fans (believe themselves to be) but he's the pne in the place we'd like to be (well... after a fashion).

I'm pretty sure that despite being from human, Mal's not from Earth, since I got the impression that Firefly takes place in a distant Solar System.  I could be wrong, as I haven't watched it in ages.  Interestingly, there are certain sci-fi characters who totally count, and yet what draws me to them is not the SF aspect.  In those cases I usually left them off the list, but if they were charming rogues then they get an automatic pass.

EDIT:
#10 – Darth Vader

(91 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Imrahil)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Cole Stratton, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Relaxing Drago

Five lists?!? What the hell is goin' on?

It's the prequels, isn't it? Goddamn prequels.

Eh, he's certainly a commanding presence, but he doesn't do much for me.  Still, perhaps if there were no prequels.  Unfortunately, we'll never know.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 24, 2011, 08:22:31 PM
Mal's from Shadow.

They constantly refer to "Earth that was" suggesting nobody has been born on Earth for a long time.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 24, 2011, 08:27:41 PM
Mal's from Shadow.

Even the dude's planet of origin is awesome.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 24, 2011, 08:30:02 PM
Mal's from Shadow.

They constantly refer to "Earth that was" suggesting nobody has been born on Earth for a long time.


Updated.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 24, 2011, 08:36:50 PM
Kang and Kodos must be in the top 5. :D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 24, 2011, 11:45:03 PM
Bender, Fry, Ford, and Tom (featuring Darth). That's both a good update and a great band line-up.

Johnny, that's a great write-up of Fry, it actually makes me regret that I didn't include him on my list (he just didn't quite make the cut). Contentment with one's place in life, no matter how "lesser" said position might be, is a great thing in a character, especially one who handles everything so well (he's Dude-like, in that respect). He can be pretty feeble sometimes, but he still asserts himself at the right moments (when he starts throttling Nibbler back in the past is a good highlight for him in that respect). Plus, he was the first to recognize Bender's greatness, and for that he will be spared in the uprising.

And it is always a damn charm to see Spike pop up. That dude just oozed cool in ways previously unknown to man. That I chose him over the more obvious choice of Ed speaks a lot about him (or maybe just the show).

Now, on to the Top 5! Excited for it (and the accompanying write-ups, as those do rule (as previously established)), even though it looks like my #1 and #2 will be sorely absent (still holding out for #3!).
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 24, 2011, 11:48:48 PM
#10 – Darth Vader

(91 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Imrahil)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Cole Stratton, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Relaxing Drago

Five lists?!? What the hell is goin' on?

It's the prequels, isn't it? Goddamn prequels.

It's the sand. Gave him lots of character.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 24, 2011, 11:55:44 PM
Woo! Didn't think Fry would beat out Bender.

What I love most about Fry is that his thought process is frighteningly identical to mine just before I REALLY start thinking about what I'm thinking about. :^)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 25, 2011, 12:01:02 AM
You know what MKB say about Benders...
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 25, 2011, 02:51:35 AM
#10 – Darth Vader

(91 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Imrahil)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Cole Stratton, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Relaxing Drago
Five lists?!? What the hell is goin' on?

It's the prequels, isn't it? Goddamn prequels.

The prequels have nothing to do with his standing for me.  To me, he has no character depth whatsoever: he is a character outline (as are all the Star Wars characters).  The most personal depth Darth Vader has is disliking sand, wanting his own way, and his anger at
[spoilered for events that anyone who's seen the prequels knows]
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
getting killed, and all of those happened in the prequels (i.e. the ONLY character depth he ever got were in the prequels).  If a character has no personal depth, no apparent source for their motivation, they are of no interest to me whatsoever (which is also why Obi-Wan, Yoda, another character I fear may be in the top 5, and all others from the Star Wars series weren't even considered when making my list).  [As I've stated elsewhere on the forum, I was too old when the first trilogy came out, as I feel George Lucas writes for 7-10 year olds.  So I have no nostalgic childhood attachment to them to outweigh my particular adult approach to 'characters'.]

[My reason for not voting for any in the Star Trek realm were very different.  In Star Trek, I knew all I wanted to know about those characters I liked, so they ceased to be of interest to me.  Noticing a pattern here for how I chose favorites?  :)  If a character had untapped potential, where I'd want to know more about them, they could potentially be interesting enough to make my list (that's why Mal Reynolds was my #3 pick, and likely why my #2 and #1 picks won't be on the list at all [besides coming from pulp magazine stories, and books, respectively, neither of which have had much play here]).  Characters who I felt lacked depth and potential (e.g. those in Star Wars) were never of interest, much less favorites; and those whose potential feels exhausted to me (e.g. those in Star Trek) are no longer 'favorites'.  (Though I will give the 'rebooting' of Star Trek at least another couple films before deciding if I'll 'reopen' consideration of those characters should this LoC topic come up again in another 3-5 years.)]

But as I've said repeatedly: others can like whatever they wish.  That's just how I look at films and film characters, and how my 'favorites' were chosen.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: MontyServo on August 25, 2011, 03:40:27 AM
#9 – Tom Servo

(96 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Darth Geek)
Voted by: Invader Quirk, Cole Stratton, Darth Geek, Monty, D. B. Barnes, Relaxing Dragon
Don't know if it is going to affect the ranking, but I had Tom at #1.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 05:52:31 AM
#9 – Tom Servo

(96 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Darth Geek)
Voted by: Invader Quirk, Cole Stratton, Darth Geek, Monty, D. B. Barnes, Relaxing Dragon
Don't know if it is going to affect the ranking, but I had Tom at #1.

It won't affect it at all for the following reasons: A) I am not redoing the list, B) the points are most likely still correct because I did those at a different time than the names.

However, please except my apologies for not mentioning you had him as number 1
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 25, 2011, 09:26:14 AM
#10 – Darth Vader

(91 Points) 5 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Imrahil)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Cole Stratton, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Relaxing Drago
Five lists?!? What the hell is goin' on?

It's the prequels, isn't it? Goddamn prequels.

The prequels have nothing to do with his standing for me.  To me, he has no character depth whatsoever: he is a character outline (as are all the Star Wars characters).  The most personal depth Darth Vader has is disliking sand, wanting his own way, and his anger at
[spoilered for events that anyone who's seen the prequels knows]
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
getting killed, and all of those happened in the prequels
 (i.e. the ONLY character depth he ever got were in the prequels).  If a character has no personal depth,W no apparent source for their motivation, they are of no interest to me whatsoever (which is also why Obi-Wan, Yoda, another character I fear may be in the top 5, and all othersA from the Star Wars series weren't even considered when making my list).  [As I've stated elsewhere on the forum, I was too old when the first trilogy came out, as I feel George Lucas writes for 7-10 year olds.  So I have no nostalgic childhood attachment to them to outweigh my particular adult approach to 'characters'.]

[My reason for not voting for any in the Star Trek realm were very different.  In Star Trek, I knew all I wanted to know about those characters I liked, so they ceased to be of interest to me.  Noticing a pattern here for how I chose favorites?  :)  If a character had untapped potential, where I'd want to know more about them, they could potentially be interesting enough to make my list (that's why Mal Reynolds was my #3 pick, and likely why my #2 and #1 picks won't be on the list at all [besides coming from pulp magazine stories, and books, respectively, neither of which have had much play here]).  Characters who I felt lacked depth and potential (e.g. those in Star Wars) were never of interest, much less favorites; and those whose potential feels exhausted to me (e.g. those in Star Trek) are no longer 'favorites'.  (Though I will give the 'rebooting' of Star Trek at least another couple films before deciding if I'll 'reopen' consideration of those characters should this LoC topic come up again in another 3-5 years.)]

But as I've said repeatedly: others can like whatever they wish.  That's just how I look at films and film characters, and how my 'favorites' were chosen.
I think they gain alot of depth and complexity more in the expanded universe. But the again that may be because Lucas doesn't have a hand in the books
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 12:19:25 PM
I think Vader's fantastic.  The scene in Jedi where he's looking at Luke's saber and talking to his son is probably the best one in the movie.  He might be "anakin" underneath, but he's Vader to me.
I don't even consider the prequels as canon, personally. I consider them to be part of an
alternate, incompetent star wars universe where people are idiots, jerks and assholes
for no reason.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 25, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
I think Vader's fantastic.  The scene in Jedi where he's looking at Luke's saber and talking to his son is probably the best one in the movie.  He might be "anakin" underneath, but he's Vader to me.
I don't even consider the prequels as canon, personally. I consider them to be part of an
alternate, incompetent star wars universe where people are idiots, jerks and assholes
for no reason.

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

I do the same thing,when I say that I have watched the Star Wars movie I don't mean i watch episodes 1-3.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 25, 2011, 01:09:51 PM
I think Vader's fantastic.  The scene in Jedi where he's looking at Luke's saber and talking to his son is probably the best one in the movie.  He might be "anakin" underneath, but he's Vader to me.
I don't even consider the prequels as canon, personally. I consider them to be part of an
alternate, incompetent star wars universe where people are idiots, jerks and assholes
for no reason.
I knew it! I'm surrounded by assholes!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 01:17:31 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap:
I do the same thing,when I say that I have watched the Star Wars movie I don't mean i watch episodes 1-3.
Indeed, but it's also not so much that they're bad movies, they just don't feel like Star Wars
at all. It's like any meshing with the OT doesn't really feel right on any level except for some
vague imagery.

I knew it! I'm surrounded by assholes!
And sadly, I think part of the reason they were so bad was because the advice George was given
was "keep firing assholes!", but unfortunately took that advice literally because he left out a comma
there.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 25, 2011, 03:26:54 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap:
I do the same thing,when I say that I have watched the Star Wars movie I don't mean i watch episodes 1-3.
Indeed, but it's also not so much that they're bad movies, they just don't feel like Star Wars
at all. It's like any meshing with the OT doesn't really feel right on any level except for some
vague imagery.

I knew it! I'm surrounded by assholes!
And sadly, I think part of the reason they were so bad was because the advice George was given
was "keep firing assholes!", but unfortunately took that advice literally because he left out a comma
there.

I think he was listening more to yogurt when he said "spaceballs 2: the search for more money". George just ran with that.....right off a cliff
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 03:48:53 PM
I think he was listening more to yogurt when he said "spaceballs 2: the search for more money". George just ran with that.....right off a cliff
yyyyyyyup... or you might say he whizzed the whole goddamn thing right down his pant leg!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 25, 2011, 05:30:36 PM
He might have been replaced at some point in the early 90's by a plaid based alien with really terrible plans to take over the world through the film industry.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 25, 2011, 06:09:58 PM
So no love for spike?  would thought there would have been a bit more talk about him. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 06:59:10 PM
Are you ready to end this, bitches???


I mean "bitches" in the nicest possible way
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 06:59:28 PM
#5 – Doc Brown

(109 Points) 7 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 8 (Cole Stratton)
Voted by: PakMan, Cole Stratton, Darth Geek, Gofyblind, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Anais.T. Kirk

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/DocBrown.jpg)
 

Full Name: Doctor Emmett Lathrop "Doc" Brown, Ph.D.
From: Back to the Future series
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Scientist (mad or otherwise), time traveler,

Known For: Saying “Great Scott” in homage to his favorite Sci Fi character (Great Welshy doesn’t have the same ring to it), being a HUGE nerd, having crazy white hair and taking the young Marty McFly on many crazy adventures, getting shot in the back….by Buford Tannen!....over a matter of 80 dollars!

Sci Fi Themes: The thin line between genius and insanity, Old men should always hang out with boys much younger than them, always experiment on the dog first.

Dossier:
The day: November 5th, 1955.
The Place: Brown Mansion, Hill Valley, CA
The Event: While standing over his toilet to hang a picture, Dr. Brown falls and hits his head.
The Aftermath: Doc awakens with a vision…of this

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/flux20capacitor.jpg)

The Discovery: This ^ is what makes time travel possible







Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:00:00 PM
Dumbest Sci-Fi Characters Part 2 – Nick Miller and JK Robertson

Nick: (1 Point) 1 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 25 (Compound)
JK: (0 Point) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: Katonic

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/castleton_official_2.jpg)

And

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/J_K_Robertson.jpg)
 

Full Name: The completely unacceptable geeky hero and Bob Evil, respectively
From: Time Chasers
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Nick is a loser scientist who builds a Time Machine. Bob Evil is the head of Evil Co.

Known For:
Nick is known for driving a geeky ten speed, trying to engulf Lisa with his chin butt, and being an alumnus of Castleton

J.K. is known for having his office in a library atrium, being a self made man with his company Evil Co, and bringing a semi-automatic weapon to the Revolutionary War.

Sci Fi Themes: You too can make a crap film with no budget
Dossier:
http://www.youtube.com/v/vdE0f5Hj7xw?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:00:39 PM
#4 – Captain Kirk

(135 Points) 7 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Imrahil)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Doctor Who?, Compound, Cole Stratton, Monty, Imrahil, Anais.T. Kirk

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Star-trek-captain-kirk-star-trek-6336018-497-377.jpg)

And

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/kirk-awesome.jpg)

(^This version not technically voted by Im)

 

Full Name: Captain James Tiberius Kirk
From: Star Trek
Planet of Origin: Earth
Position: Captain, fighter, lover

Known For: Getting his shirt ripped after five seconds of fighting, having unnecessary Twilight like              pauses in between words, climbing something “because it’s there”

Sci Fi Themes: Being a starship captain, doing it with green women (which I have yet to actually see happen), Boldy going where…blah, blah, yawn.

Dossier: Born in Iowa, Kirk was on Tarsus IV when Kodos the executioner did his genocide impression. Kirk is the only person to have beaten the famous Kobayashi Maru test…oddly he did this in both the original and alternate versions. Kirk became a very young captain of the Starship Enterprise and totally used it to pick up space chicks. In between, he became BFFs with Bones and Spock and used their friendship and guidance to be a really cool captain. Kirk got it one with one Carol Marcus (rowr) and then had a space seed of his own, David Marcus. Conveniently enough, David is killed by Kilngons in Star Trek 3, making Star Trek 6 way more exciting. Captain  KIrk died while having a fight to the death with Captain Picard. Alas, Kirk was actually killed by the dude from A Clockwork Orange, so we still have no idea who is better: Kirk or Picard


 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:01:09 PM
Grossly Overrated – Boba Fett

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: LucasM

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/4242-boba-fett.jpg)
 

Full Name: Bobble Fett
From: Star Wars
Planet of Origin: That water planet
Position: Hunter of Booty…I mean Bounty. Taker of Han

Known For: Getting eaten by that thing in Return of the Jedi, having his back story ass raped by George Lucas, being a freak genetic clone

Sci Fi Themes: Cloning
Dossier: Ya know, it can’t be easy being a fake single father and simple man just trying to make your way in the universe while killing people and being chased by Jedis, but somehow, Jango Fett pulled it off. He and Bobble (later Boba as Bobble sounded too much like a soft drink) were livin the American Dream….in a galaxy that thinks “America” is a hemorrhoid cream. But Boba’s life was not meant to be wine and tapas for long. While still an impressionable young freak of nature, Boba witnessed his father being be-headed by the baddest mofo of the Universe. Samuel L. Windu. Boba decides that being a simple man trying to make his way in the universe is totally lame and grows up to be a bounty hunter. Then he takes Han away and that makes us mad!

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:01:44 PM

 
#3 – Spock

(148 Points) 9 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Anais.T.Kirk)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Cole Stratton, Johnny Unusual, Darth Geek, Gofyblind, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, FlockofRabidSheep, Anais.T. Kirk

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/spock1.jpg)

And alternately

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Spock_Zachary_Quinto.jpg)

(^This version not technically voted by Im)
 

Full Name: Spoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooock
From: Star Trek
Planet of Origin: Vulcan
Position: Science Officer, Number 2, Kirk’s BFF, Socrates of Space

Known For: Having green blood and pointy ears, getting his Pon farr on, and signing about “the greatest little hobbit of them all”…oh wait, that was Leonard Nimoy. Also had a one man show about Vincent Van Spock.

Sci Fi Themes: Inner conflict and turmoil, finding your place in the universe when you are the child of two different worlds, logic rules over everything, including star fleet regulation. Star Trek depicts a "troika" of Spock, Kirk, and Doctor Leonard McCoy (DeForest Kelley); while McCoy often acts as Kirk's conscience, Spock offers the captain an emotionally detached, logical perspective

Dossier: RoninFox says it best in his iriff of Star Trek: The Motion Picture: “Spock Block.” Spock is a fighter. He will fight for his inner peace, fight for his captain (old and new). Spock will fight for his honour, his planet, and probably Vulcan stew. One of the greatest characters in all of science fiction, Spock will never do anything he does not see as a the logical path for him. A man completely in control of his own destiny, he makes the greatest sacrifice in Wrath of Khan only to be re-born in Search for Spock.

Therefore, Spock is God. WWSD



Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:02:20 PM
Worst Sci-Fi Character(s) Part 3 – The Entire Whitwicki Family, including Dogs, (Movie Version)
 

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: D.B. Barnes

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/whitwicki.jpg)

And

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/mojo.jpg)

 

Full Name: The Family Whitwicki
Patriarch: Ron Whitwicki
Matriarch: Judy Whitwicki
Idtiot Son: Sam Whitwicki
Dog: Mojo Whitwicki

From: Michael Bay Crapfest 1-3 (It’s MY list of crap and I can hate Transformers if I want to)
Planet of Origin: Earth (except Mojo….he is from planets beyond)
Position: Poster family for not breeding

Known For: Saying the stupidest lines, making me cringe and want to toss up my popcorn, being pretty one-dimensional….oh and having their house destroyed.

Sci Fi Themes: Aliens need human sidekicks
Dossier: The Grand Patriarch of the family, Archibald Whitwicki, was an explorer who discovered the transformers first. Then he left all of his crap to his idiot grandchild (despite him saying “No, no, no, no, no, no, no). His idiot grandchild turned out to be the savior of the human race…YAWN.




Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:03:01 PM
#2 – The Doctor

(155 Points) 7 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 1 (Doctor Who?, FlockofRabidSheep, and Johnny Unusual)
Voted by: Doctor Who?, TripeHoundRedux, Johnny Unusual, Gofyblind, LucasM, Imrahil, FlockofRabidSheep

 
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/Versions_of_the_Doctor.jpg)

And voted by number by our very own Imrahil……

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Full Name: Unknown
From: Doctor Who
Planet of Origin: Gallifrey
Position: Time Lord

Known For: Changing appearance ever couple of years, having females accompany him and his journey that he doesn’t have sex with, always has a british accent despite not being from Earth

Sci Fi Themes: Time travel, space, preservation of sentient life

Dossier: The Doctor is a Time Lord, an extraterrestrial from the planet Gallifrey, who travels through time and space in an internally vast time machine called the TARDIS (Time And Relative Dimension(s) In Space). The Doctor explores the universe at random, using his extensive knowledge of science, technology and history (from his perspective) to avert whatever crisis he encounters unless it is a fixed point in time and space. The imprecise nature of his travels is initially attributed to the age and unreliability of the TARDIS's navigation system.



Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 25, 2011, 07:15:26 PM
Grossly Overrated – Boba Fett

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: LucasM

Dossier:While still an impressionable young freak of nature, Boba witnessed his father being be-headed by the baddest mofo of the Universe. Samuel L. Windu.

Glad he made the list (in this form ;) ).  In regards to this Dossier comment (which I like greatly), as I've commented elsewhere buried in the boards: for Boba to become the angry bounty hunter he later was, seeing his father beheaded in front of him in the prequels was pretty much a 'Fett Accompli'.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 25, 2011, 07:15:50 PM
Dumbest Sci-Fi Characters Part 2 – Nick Miller and JK Robertson


I'd like to see this post in a more dignified suit!

Worst Sci-Fi Character(s) Part 3 – The Entire Whitwicki Family, including Dogs, (Movie Version)



YES! This is arguably the most irritating, shrieking, and loathsome group of people/animals that has ever been onscreen at the same time.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 25, 2011, 07:18:57 PM

 having females accompany him and his journey that he doesn’t have sex with

The most shocking super-power of all.  I was just watching "the Mind Robber."  Have you seen Zoe's ass?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ognmH3g7KYE/TJoAXEG4hbI/AAAAAAAAAao/TZ5WTgNRMug/s400/MindRobber_PDVD_057_400.jpg)

The Tardis explodes but that's what fans are gonna remember.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 25, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ognmH3g7KYE/TJoAXEG4hbI/AAAAAAAAAao/TZ5WTgNRMug/s400/MindRobber_PDVD_057_400.jpg)

Looks like a grape-flavored Roger.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 25, 2011, 07:21:16 PM
It's odd... with Kirk, Spock and The Doctor out of the way, I honestly cannot think of who could be #1.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
Yea, I am not sure how long I will wait to post it, but I want you all to squirm!


Squirm! La conejita demands it!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 25, 2011, 07:24:24 PM
It's odd... with Kirk, Spock and The Doctor out of the way, I honestly cannot think of who could be #1.

Really? My guess is you ain't gonna like it.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:26:13 PM
It's odd... with Kirk, Spock and The Doctor out of the way, I honestly cannot think of who could be #1.

Really? My guess is you ain't gonna like it.

That's cryptic. I want you to PM me with who you think Number 1 will be.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 25, 2011, 07:31:22 PM
Most irritating character that will definitely be on the regular list:
Kirk

#4 – Captain Kirk

I $%#@&!% KNEW IT! Goddamn Shatner.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:32:19 PM
Darth, post your quote about Spock. I loved it!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 25, 2011, 07:34:48 PM
Most irritating character that will definitely be on the regular list:
Kirk

#4 – Captain Kirk

I $%#@&!% KNEW IT! Goddamn Shatner.

Oooooh, it's gonna get GOOD!  ;D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 25, 2011, 07:35:14 PM
I have a feeling #1 will have an appropriate last name...
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 25, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Quote
We get it. You hate Star Wars.

Heh all i got to say is this was covered flawlessly in fanboys
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 25, 2011, 07:46:28 PM
Grossly Overrated – Boba Fett

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: LucasM
We get it. You hate Star Wars.

Actually 'hate' isn't accurate.  I just think that things like Boba's wild popularity and the adoration toward him [prior to the prequels], when he had - what? 5-10 minutes screen time in the entire original trilogy and said nothing the whole time (or close to nothing, I forget if he talked to Hutt briefly) - it just makes no sense to me.

But I had a Clinical Psychology supervisor who liked the original film.  With her background and approach to film, she apparently could see something in it that I could not with my background and approach to film.

Like I said, 'hate' isn't accurate: I am more "intensely indifferent" to the films.  :)  Other people dislike stuff I care for deeply.  BFD, ultimately as it is all 'entertainment'.  And we are all entertained by different things.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 25, 2011, 07:50:28 PM
Grossly Overrated – Boba Fett

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: LucasM
What?  Boba Fett is a great comedic character.  He's so wacky!


http://www.youtube.com/v/WwC_o_fcW1s

See, he did two pratfalls and got done et up by a sabretoothed space vagina.  He's the Tom Green of a long, long time ago.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 07:51:47 PM
Boba said "He's worth a lot to me" to Vader
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 25, 2011, 07:54:24 PM
Which is weird, because he was talking about the Boba Fett action figure with the firing backpack that was discontinued.  Really, a holy grail for collectors.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 25, 2011, 08:05:16 PM
Quote
Haven't seen it. It looks terrible.

Actually it was quite good.  A good celebration of just being a fan of something.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Compound on August 25, 2011, 08:10:21 PM
Hey! You build a time machine into your plane using only 10 floppies worth of info and then you can call him stupid, missy!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 25, 2011, 08:12:29 PM
Hey! You build a time machine into your plane using only 10 floppies worth of info and then you can call him stupid, missy!

Yeah, the man was a crop-dusting genius!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 25, 2011, 08:13:01 PM
Boba said "He's worth a lot to me" to Vader

Ahhh... six words out of three films.  Average of two words per film.  [If he'd avoided conjunctions, he could've made it seven, and made it much more difficult to do the math.  ;) ]

... a holy grail for collectors.

Though I smiled at your comment, this part actually brings up one of the things that confuses me about the film(s): that there is an almost religious fanaticism about the series.  [Of course, that is true of many SciFi series, and things like football and baseball too... I can't comprehend that, either.]  To me, if it had been just the first film, it would have been a nice little allegory about spirituality and listening to one's 'inner self' to solve problems.  Forgettable, but nice to see once.  But again, I was at least 10 years too old when the first film came out to get into it deeper.  I didn't play with the toys so I didn't imbed the iconography into my head.  But a friend of mine is almost exactly 10 years my junior, and he did... and is a rabid Star Wars fan, having once - as an adult - painted a room in his house with accurately spaced, accurately depicted planets from the series, with the Death Star in one corner.

I do remember specifically when I was walking out of the theater when the original film was over thinking, "eh... but if it's successful at least it may mean Hollywood will do more science fiction, possibly something I'll really like."  And before the second film came out, at a comic convention I bought a copy of the original Star Wars movie poster [quite a good investment, as I believe it cost me about $7, and I've never displayed it, so it's still in nearly-new condition].  So I'm not totally against it, I just don't comprehend the extent people get attached to it when [from what a fan mentioned in another thread] George Lucas himself stated what I have been saying: the series/characters have little depth to them.  So all I'm saying is apparently what Lucas himself has admitted to.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 08:22:30 PM
What?  Boba Fett is a great comedic character.  He's so wacky!
http://www.youtube.com/v/WwC_o_fcW1s
See, he did two pratfalls and got done et up by a sabretoothed space vagina.  He's the Tom Green of a long, long time ago.
I have a theory about Boba Fett in Return of the Jedi....
Boba comes to Jabba's palace, he sees no reason to
hang around, but he knows Han's buddies are going to
come looking for him And Boba, so Boba meets his
biggest fan at Jabba's palace. He never goes anywhere,
so Boba gives him a replica of his armor and rocketpack.

Therefore, the Boba Fett we saw die was NOT Boba Fett.
Ipso, Facto, simply because nobody can prove that actually
WAS Boba Fett because aside from "argghh!" nobody ever
heard him speak in ROTJ.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 25, 2011, 08:26:23 PM
Quote
It had the unfunny fat guy from the ping pong movie in it, right?

As a supporting character yeah.  Also had the skinny nerd guy from tropic thunder.  Seth Rogen plays two different people in it.  The cameo list is pretty extensive with Billie D Williams, Carrie Fisher, Shatner, that guy from machete, Darth Maul, and a few others i cant remember. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 25, 2011, 08:38:16 PM
#1 – Han Solo

(191 Points) 12 of 19 Lists – Highest Vote: Number 2 (Monty)
Voted by: Gunflyer, Doctor Who?, PakMan, Invader Quirk, Cole Stratton, Johnny Unusual, Darth Geek, Monty, Asbestos Bill, D. B. Barnes, Imrahil, Relaxing Dragon

 
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Full Name: Hanover P. Solo
From: Star Wars
Planet of Origin: Corellia
Position: Captain of the Millennium Falcon, Smuggler, Scoundrel, Scruffy looking Nerf Herder

Known For: Getting frozen in carbonite, getting to take this home:

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/princess-leia-costume-metal-bikini.jpg)

And SHOOTING FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sci Fi Themes: Smugglers with a heart of Gold

Dossier: One day, Han Solo was stroking his wookie in a bar on Tatooine, when he was approched by an old man and a kid with a Dorothy Hamill haircut. Han agrees to take the old man and wuss to Alderaan for a lot of Pesos (not sure why Pesos are the galactic currency of the Empire, but there ya go). Before Han can leave, he shoots some bounty hunter (FIRST). Han gets tangled up in some Jedi/Empire hijinks, which is annoying because he really wants to get paid until he sees Princes Leia. Being the tough macho man that he is, Han totally ignores his attraction to Leia and they start bickering like 5th graders who like each other. Han finally gets Leia in the sack (scene only available in George Lucas’ “private” collection) only to have the colt 45 dude betray him and turn him over to a bounty hunter. Leia rescues him from Jabba’s clutches and then he goes to play with Teddy Bears for an hour before Spielberg calls him to do Indiana Jones. The rest is a career with mostly good movies and Firewall.

Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 08:41:02 PM
Speaking of Han Solo, has anybody ever taken the clip of Han and Greedo shooting at the same time and
repeatedly putting it to "Turkey in the straw"?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: LucasM on August 25, 2011, 09:04:29 PM
Thank you, Anais.La.Conejita, for hosting a very fun list, despite your having to take time out during it to change your name.  ;)

As I expected, VERY few of my choices made the final cut.  Since people will, invariably, do so, let me be the first to post my list, showing just how 'out of the mainstream' I was for this.   :D  [Those in red actually made the list.]

1   Lazarus Long (Heinlein's 'Time Enough for Love')
2   Doc Savage (1933-~1939, when the spectacular was real, instead of fraud)
3   Mal Reynolds (Firefly/Serenity)
4   Frankenstein's Creature (yes, it is - at its core - Sci-Fi, not horror)
5   Tisianne brant T'sara sek Halima sek Ragnar sek Omian [aka 'Dr. Tachyon'] ('Wild Cards' series)
6   Captain Jack Harkness
7   Doctor Who (only from 2005-forward [Eccleston-on])
8   River Tam ('Firefly'/'Serenity')
9   Edward Wong Hau Pepulu Tivruskii 4th [aka just 'Edward'] ('Cowboy BeBop')
10  Adam Warlock ('Strange Tales' 'Warlock' etc.)
11  Marvelman/Miracleman (the Alan Moore treatment only)
12  Max Headroom
13  Doctor Walter Bishop ('Fringe')
14  Major Motoko Kusanagi ('Ghost in the Shell' TV series [both series])
15  Echo ('Dollhouse')
16  G'Kar ('Babylon 5')
17  Doctor Manhattan ('Watchmen')
18  Valentine Michael Smith ('Stranger In A Strange Land')
19  #6 ('The Prisoner')
20  Delenn ('Babylon 5')
21  Ymir (Harryhausen's '20 Million Miles to Earth')
22  Axel Pressbutton ('Warrior' mag in England, assorted variations of the title 'Axel Pressbutton and Laser Eraser' comics in U.S.)
23  The Brain ('Pinky and the Brain')
24  Brock Samson ('Venture Brothers')
25  Kim Possible ('Kim Possible')
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
My list is:

25 Godzilla
24 Snake Plissken
23 Mork from Ork
22 Sam Beckett(Quantum Leap)
21 Judge Dredd
20 V(for Vendetta)
19 Robocop
18 Zool/Gozer
17 Ming the Merciless
16 DarkSeid
15 Sephiroth
14 Sebastian Shaw
13 Alucard
12 HAL
11 Gul Dukat
10 Elim Garak
9 Han Solo
8 Rorschach
7 Boba Fett
6 Spock
5 Captain James T. Kirk
4 Captain Benjamin Sisko
3 Optimus Prime
2 Khan Noonien Singh
1 Darth Vader
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 25, 2011, 09:08:11 PM
I wish Maud dib had made this list preferably in the #1 spot.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 25, 2011, 09:08:25 PM
Darth, post your quote about Spock. I loved it!
22.Spock (fuck that Kirk jackass, Spock rules!)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 25, 2011, 09:09:48 PM
Here's my list:

LoC Favorite Sci-Fi characters:

1. Crow T Robot
2. Tom Servo
3. Optimus Prime
4. Dr. Insano (He's SCIENCIER!)
5. Dr. Bunsen Honeydew
6. Doc Brown
7. Megatron
8. Han Solo
9. Bender
10.Mike Nelson
11.Invader Zim (VICTORY! Victory for ZIIIIM!)
12.The Terminator (T-800)
13.Leela (Futurama)
14.Incredible Hulk (any incarnation except the 2003 Ang Lee movie)
15.Dr. Forrester
16.Darth Helmet
17.Ellen Ripley (Alien)
18.Iceman (ny favorite X-men, because he has my alltime favorite superpower)
19.Robocop
20.Egon Spengler (all the Ghostbusters are awesome, of course, but Egon was always my favorite)
21.Dr. Herbert West
22.Spock (fuck that Kirk jackass, Spock rules!)
23.Sarah Connor (mostly for Terminator 2)
24.Starscream
25.Grommet





Runners up:
Tony Stark/Iron Man (particularly as played by Robert Downey Jr.)
Morbo
Fox Mulder
K (Tommy Lee Jones in Men In Black)
Johny 5 (Short Circuit)
WALL-E
T-1000



Muuuust puuuut oooon liiiist:
Hypnotoad

Most irritating character that will definitely be on the regular list:
Kirk

Most likely to have been overlooked by people:
Roboduck (Blathering Blatherskites!)
Disembaudio

Best Facial Hair:
Dr. Robotnic

Worst written female character ever:
Polly Perkins (Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 25, 2011, 09:20:09 PM
Most likely to have been overlooked by people:
Roboduck (Blathering Blatherskites!)



You mean Gizmoduck?

and since when is Disembaudio a scifi character?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Darth Geek on August 25, 2011, 09:28:00 PM
Most likely to have been overlooked by people:
Roboduck (Blathering Blatherskites!)
You mean Gizmoduck?

and since when is Disembaudio a scifi character?
Actually, I think you are right. I looked it up and apparently he was originally called RoboDuck and then it changed, so that must have been why it came up in my search when I made my list.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 09:33:03 PM
23  The Brain ('Pinky and the Brain')
24  Brock Samson ('Venture Brothers')
25  Kim Possible ('Kim Possible')
My brain is still trying to process the fact that you voted
silly cartoon characters above the likes of Han Solo and
Hal 9000.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 09:38:58 PM
Does anybody rememeber Yoda's classic line from The Phantom Menace?

Burritos lead to gas
Gas leads to farts
Farts… lead to suffering!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 25, 2011, 09:42:05 PM
Well done on the list, Anais!  :clap:

I guess I'm more of a mainstream representative of the sci-fi genre when it comes to fandom. While I enjoy much of what it has to offer, it's not my favorite. As such, I suppose my list is appropriately mainstream.

1. Jean-Luc Picard
2. Spock
3. Darth Vader
4. Crow T. Robot
5. Sulu
6. Obi-Wan Kenobi
7. Han Solo
8. Dirk Gently
9. Data
10. Yoda
11. Ford Prefect
12. John Locke
13. C3PO
14. Doc Brown
15. Dr. Venture
16. Q
17. Sam Lowry
18. V
19. Fox Mulder
20. Faye Valentine
21. Zapp Brannigan
22. Tom Servo
23. Agent Smith
24. Ripley
25. HAL 9000
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: shodan on August 25, 2011, 09:45:28 PM
Quote
Thank you, Anais.La.Conejita, for hosting a very fun list, despite your having to take time out during it to change your name. 

As I expected, VERY few of my choices made the final cut.  Since people will, invariably, do so, let me be the first to post my list, showing just how 'out of the mainstream' I was for this.     [Those in red actually made the list.]

1   Lazarus Long (Heinlein's 'Time Enough for Love')
the guy's name is lazarus long... and the title is time enough for love..... i didnt think a porno movie would make the list
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 25, 2011, 09:56:22 PM
Quote
Thank you, Anais.La.Conejita, for hosting a very fun list, despite your having to take time out during it to change your name.  

As I expected, VERY few of my choices made the final cut.  Since people will, invariably, do so, let me be the first to post my list, showing just how 'out of the mainstream' I was for this.     [Those in red actually made the list.]

1   Lazarus Long (Heinlein's 'Time Enough for Love')
the guy's name is lazarus long... and the title is time enough for love..... i didnt think a porno movie would make the list

Lazarus Long (aka Lazarus Longbone), grandfather of Johnny Longbone and inventor of a legendary stew recipe made from chicken, corn, green peppers, chili, *sigh* onions...
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 25, 2011, 10:00:28 PM
Squirm! La conejita demands it!
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
J.K. is known for having his office in a library atrium
This gave me a good laugh, thank you!

Grossly Overrated – Boba Fett

(0 Points) 1 of 19 Lists – Voted by: LucasM
We get it. You hate Star Wars.
Actually 'hate' isn't accurate.  I just think that things like Boba's wild popularity and the adoration toward him [prior to the prequels], when he had - what? 5-10 minutes screen time in the entire original trilogy and said nothing the whole time (or close to nothing, I forget if he talked to Hutt briefly) - it just makes no sense to me.
You know what I love about you, LucasM? You're the one person here who manages to totally eclipse my own irreverence towards Star Wars.  :D
As I expected, VERY few of my choices made the final cut.  Since people will, invariably, do so, let me be the first to post my list, showing just how 'out of the mainstream' I was for this.   :D
I may have to challenge your non-mainstream status with my list (albeit we both had only 5 of our characters make the final cut).

Katonic's 25 Sci-Fi Characters:
1. Max Renn (James Woods) - Videodrome
2. THX-1138 (Robert Duvall) - THX-1138
3. Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) - Blade Runner
4. Dr. Solomon Eddie (Peter Stormare) - Minority Report
5. Pris (Daryl Hannah) - Blade Runner
6. Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford) - Blade Runner
7. Zed (Sean Connery) - Zardoz
8. Ellen Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) - Alien films
9. Dr. Hans Reinhardt (Maximilian Schell) - The Black Hole (1979)
10. Maximilian the Robot - The Black Hole (1979)
11. HAL 9000 - 2001: A Space Odyssey
12. Allegra Geller (Jennifer Jason Leigh) - Existenz
13. Dr Seth Brundle (Jeff Goldblum) - The Fly (1986)
14. Gigolo Joe (Jude Law) - A.I.
15. RoboCop (Peter Weller) - RoboCop
16. H. George Wells (Rod Taylor) - The Time Machine (1960)
17. Douglas Quaid (Arnold Schwarzenegger) - Total Recall
18. Harry Tuttle (Robert De Niro) - Brazil
19. Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) - The Terminator
20. Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) - The Terminator
21. Bishop (Lance Henriksen) - Aliens
22. Roy Neary (Richard Dreyfuss) - Close Encounters of the Third Kind
23. Dr. Clayton Forrester - MST3K
24. Crow T Robot - MST3K
25. Lobo (Tor Johnson) - Bride of the Monster

And as far as silly / bizarre characters go, here's one of my unsung choices:
--"Box" the freezer robot from Logan's Run (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0017113/ (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0017113/), http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0017113/quotes (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0017113/quotes))

Great job, Anais! And thanks for including my "worst" picks Terl & J.K. Robertson!
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 25, 2011, 10:11:51 PM
Woo, got pretty shut out in my top 10. But that's OK by me; you're still my main man Riddick!

1. Riddick (Pitch Black)
2. Christopher Johnson (District 9)
3. Dr. Zoidberg (Futurama)
4. Andrew Ryan (Bioshock)
5. Dave Lister (Red Dwarf)
6. Spike Segal (Cowboy Bebop)

7. Raz (Psychonauts)
8. Ford Prefect (Hitchhiker’s Guide)
9. GIR (Invader Zim)
10. Tom Servo (MST3K)
11. WALL-E (WALL-E)
12. Han Solo (Star Wars)
13. Bender (Futurama)

14. Morpheus (The Matrix)
15. Darth Vader (Star Wars)
16. Zim (Invader Zim)
17. Ellen Ripley (Alien)
18. The Terminator (The Terminator)

19. Agent Smith (The Matrix)
20. Nessus (Ringworld)
21. Buckaroo Banzai (The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai)
22. Wrex (Mass Effect)
23. Zaphod Beeblebrox (The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy)
24. GERTY (Moon)
25. Jabba the Hutt (Return of the Jedi)

I'd like to give some quickie kudos to Katonic for Dr. Solomon Eddie (and also for his current avatar, but that's another matter).
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 25, 2011, 10:41:01 PM
I guess I'm the only one who thought of video games as a source of Sci-Fi. (Should have put GlaDOS on there while I was at it...)
EDIT: I guess a couple other video game characters made a couple other lists. There just wasn't enough correlation.

1. Roger Wilco (Space Quest)
2. Commander Shepard (Mass Effect)
3. Spike Spiegel (Cowboy Bebop)
4. Han Solo (Star Wars)
5. Peter Venkman (Ghostbusters)
6. Zim (Invader Zim)
7. Mal Reynolds (Firefly)

8. Ed (Cowboy Bebop)
9. Mike Nelson (MST3K)
10. HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic)
11. Ford Prefect (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
12. "Doc" Emmit Brown (Back to the Future)
13. Optimus Prime (Transformers)
14. Phillip J. Fry (Futurama)

15. Earthworm Jim (Earthworm Jim)
16. Mega Man (Mega Man)
17. Liara T'soni (Mass Effect)
18. Cameron (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles)
19. Tron (Tron)
20. Jabba the Hutt (Star Wars)
21. Dr. Zachary Smith (Lost in Space)
22. Yoda (Star Wars)
23. Robby the Robot (Forbidden Planet)
24. Space Ghost (Space Ghost Coast to Coast)
25. Krang (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 25, 2011, 11:10:16 PM
Had I remembered HK-47, I would have put him on my list. Being the forgetful meatbag that I am, though, it slipped my mind >_<

I chose Wrex instead of Shepard, since as cool as Shep is, he still has that vague aurora of plainness that the PCs always have. Wrex is just awesome no matter how you slice it. I had to put Ryan, but at least he made a different list, so I'm not too upset.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Russell on August 25, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
Had I remembered HK-47, I would have put him on my list. Being the forgetful meatbag that I am, though, it slipped my mind >_<
I chose Wrex instead of Shepard, since as cool as Shep is, he still has that vague aurora of plainness that the PCs always have. Wrex is just awesome no matter how you slice it. I had to put Ryan, but at least he made a different list, so I'm not too upset.
HK-47 was the character that should have been in some Star Wars movies. If I ever make my own
cut of Empire Strikes back, it'll be him who shot C3-PO.

I'm also surprised nobody voted for Samus or Ridley from Metroid. Those two are like Ripley and
Alien, in a parallel sense.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 26, 2011, 03:44:26 AM
Great list.  I saw Solo coming a mile away.  Not my pick, but a great character nonetheless.  Here's my list:

1. The Doctor (Doctor Who)
2. Arthur Dent (Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy)
3. Billy Pilgrim (Slaughterhouse Five)
4. The Prisoner (AKA Number 6)
5. HAL 9000
6. Spider Jerusalem (Transmetropolitan)
7. Lister (Red Dwarf)
8. Charlie (Flowers for Algernon)
9. V (V for Vendetta)
10. Spock
11. Captain Jean Luc Picard
12. Peter Venkman (Ghostbusters)
13. Mal Reynolds (Firefly)
14. Fry (Futurama)
15. Data (Star Trek: TNG)
16. Silver Surfer
17. Han Solo
18. Marty McFly
19. Robot Man (Doom Patrol)
20. Anthony Fremont (It’s a Good Life/the Twilight Zone)
21. Barbarella
22. Doctor Doom
23. Ender (Ender’s Game)
24. Winston Smith (1984)
25. Doc Savage
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 26, 2011, 03:48:39 AM
Here is my list.

1)The Doctor(doctor Who)
2)Londo(Babylon 5)
3)Sarah Jane Smith(doctor who)
4)John Sheridan(Babylon 5)
5)Arnold J.Rimmer(Red dwarf)
6)G'Kar(Babylon 5)
7)Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart(Doctor Who)
8)Avon(Blake's 7)
9)Susan Ivanova(Babylon 5)
10)Captain Jean-Luc Picard(Star Trek TNG)
11)Jeffrey Sinclair(Babylon 5)
12)Jamie(Doctor who)
13)Barbra Wright(Doctor who)
14)Commander Adama(Battlestar Galactica 1978 TV series)
15)The Master(Doctor Who)
16)Count Baltar(BSG 1978)
17)Han Solo(Star Wars)
18)Bender(Futurama)
19)Alfred Bester(babylon 5)
20)Michael Garibaldi(Babylon 5)
21)James T Kirk(Star Trek)
22)Scotty(star Trek)
23)Arther Dent(The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
24)Davros(Doctor Who)
25)Philip J Fry(Futurama)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 26, 2011, 07:13:23 AM
1.   Zaphod Beeblebrox (Hitchhikers Guide Books)
2.   Leto II (Children of Dune/God Emperor of Dune)
3.   Alia Atredies (Dune/Dune Messiah/Children of Dune)
4.   Ford Prefect (Hitchhikers Guide Books)
5.   Baron Vladimir Harkonnen (Dune/Children of Dune)
6.   Agrajag (Life, The Universe and Everything)
7.   The Doctor (Doctor Who)
8.   Thursday Next (the series that features her)
9.   Princes Irulan Corrino-Atredies (Dune/Dune Messiah/Children of Dune, but especially the TV versions because Julie Cox is smoking hot).
10.   Thomas Jerome Newton (The Man Who Fell To Earth)
11.   Arnold Judas Rimmer (Red Dwarf)
12.   Captain Nemo (20,000 Leagues Under the Sea/The Mysterious Island)
13.   The Master (Doctor Who)
14.   Wash (Firefly/Serenity)
15.   Bill, the Galactic Hero (the book of the same name)
16.   Deja Thoris (the Barsoom books)
17.   John Carter (The Barsoom books)
18.   Vir Cotto (Babylon 5)
19.   James Bolivar “Slippery Jim” DiGriz (The Stainless Steel Rat books)
20.   Lord Jagged of Canaria (The Dancers at the End of Time)
21.   The Midwitch Cuckoos (The Midwitch Cuckoos)
22.   The Iron Orchid  (The Dancers at the End of Time)
23.   Gwen Cooper (Torchwood)
24.   Jane (Firefly/Serenity)
25.   Duncan Idaho (every single fecking Dune book, at least the good ones)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 26, 2011, 07:21:07 AM
I do, I like the books, once I was able to make it through Children on the fourth or fifth try. I don't like the prequels and sequels much but I think there are a bunch of interesting characters in the ones actually written by Frank.. The film is shite, it really is, it gets some of the visuals fairly well but it's awful in the final analysis, I like the performances in the TV version better in many cases, but really the books are what I like.  :)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 26, 2011, 07:27:03 AM
24 Snake Plissken

He would be really cool if he never talked, but he's really dumb in the first games ("Card key?"). He is a good comedic character in Smash Bros., though.

#1 Ender Wiggin (Ender's Game)
Endo Kanna (20th Century Boys)
Walter Joseph Kovacs (Rorschach) (Watchmen)
Endo Kenji (20th Century Boys)
Yoshitsune (20th Century Boys)
Phillip J Fry (Futurama)
Spike Spiegel (Cowboy Bebop)
Ai Tanabe (Planetes)
Han Solo (Star Wars)
Hachirota Hoshino (Planetes)
Peter Venkman (Ghostbusters)
Dr. Zoidberg (Futurama)
Eames (Inception)
Werner Locksmith (Planetes)
Otcho (20th Century Boys)
The Friend (20th Century Boys)
Hoban “Wash” Washburne (Firefly)
Leonard “Bones” McCoy (Star Trek)
Hermes Conrad (Futurama)
Malcolm Reynolds (Firefly)
Jane (Ender's Game)
9-JACK-9 (Zot!)
Arthur (Inception)
Vir (Babylon 5)
Dr. Breen (Half-Life 2)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 26, 2011, 07:31:44 AM
4. Andrew Ryan (Bioshock)

&

24. GERTY (Moon)

Totally should have been on my list.

19)Alfred Bester(babylon 5)

Oh! I forgot about him. He was the Chekov guy from Psycorps, right? As it was, Vir was my only B5 character.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 26, 2011, 07:32:51 AM
24 Snake Plissken

He would be really cool if he never talked, but he's really dumb in the first games ("Card key?"). He is a good comedic character in Smash Bros., though.


I can't tell if you're trying to be funny or not; I'll assume not.  Snake Plissken is the guy from Escape from New York.

Heh. That's right. They're basically and non-coincidentally interchangeable though.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: goflyblind on August 26, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
01. Q (Star Trek)
02. Dave Lister (Red Dwarf)
03. Bender (Futurama)
04. Rufus (Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure)
05. Wash (Firefly & Serenity)
06. Doc Brown (Back to the Future)
07. The Doctor (Doctor Who)
08. Badger (Firefly)
09. Captain Jack (Doctor Who & Torchwood)
10. Spock (Star Trek)
11. Dana Scully (X-Files)
12. Scotty (Star Trek)
13. Walter (Fringe)
14. Arthur Dent (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
15. Fox Mulder (X-Files)
16. Yoda (Star Wars)
17. Roy Batty (Blade Runner)
18. Wikus (District 9)
19. Lone Starr (Spaceballs)
20. Klaatu (The Day the Earth Stood Still - 1951)
21. Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)
22. Arnold Rimmer (Red Dwarf)
23. HAL9000 (2001: A Space Odyssey)
24. Harry Tuttle (Brazil)
25. Commander Norton (Rendezvous With Rama)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 26, 2011, 09:17:37 AM
Great list overall, though I still think the Doctor should have one.  Not a slight to Solo, but to me he's more an adventure archetype and I like my sci-fi characters to be vehicles to look at "What If" type scenarios, and for that, the Doctor is the ultimate, since he can basically go anywhere a writers mind will allow.  Any episode can be a new world.  Or, you know, Daleks again.  They are popular.

I'm a little disappointed no one else had Charlie from Flowers for Algernon.  That story made me tear up.  But then, there are a lot of great choices in the world of science fiction.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 26, 2011, 09:55:15 PM
8. Taylor (Planet of the Apes)

Taylor's a great, unique character. I love how cynical & misanthropic he is during the first act of the film. Wish I thought to put him on my list.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: ColeStratton on August 27, 2011, 12:04:48 AM
Pretty good list! I'm not surprised my #1 didn't make it, in the sense that the source material falls more in the realm of supernatural/comedy than Sci-Fi, sort of like Ghostbusters, but Jack Burton is amazeballs. And what about Master Blaster? HE RUNS BARTER TOWN. Centauri will always have a soft spot for me, as The Last Starfighter was one of my favorite movies growing up.

1. Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China)
2. Max Headroom (Max Headroom)
3. Captain Malcolm Reynolds (Firefly)
4. Han Solo (Star Wars)
5. Dr. Lazarus (Galaxy Quest)
6. Captain James T. Kirk (Star Trek)

7. Centauri (The Last Starfighter)
8. Doctor Emmett Brown (Back to the Future)
9. Wikus van de Merwe (District 9)
10. Snake Pliskin (Escape from New York)
11. Master Blaster (Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome)
12. Ripley (Aliens)
13. Tom Servo (MST3K)
14. Crow T. Robot (MST3K)

15. Agent Smith (The Matrix)
16. Zaphod Beeblebrox (Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy)
17. Kevin Flynn/Clu (Tron)
18. Officer Alex J. “Robocop” Murphy (Robocop)
19. Darth Vader (Star Wars)
20. Mr. Spock (Star Trek)

21. Admiral Ackbar (Star Wars)
22. Hoban “Wash” Washbourne (Firefly)
23. E.T. (E.T.)
24. Jordan Collier (The 4400)
25. John Locke (Lost)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 27, 2011, 07:54:49 AM
Big Trouble in Little China isnt a sci fi movie.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: ColeStratton on August 27, 2011, 12:16:57 PM
Big Trouble in Little China isnt a sci fi movie.

It is as much as Ghostbusters is...
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 27, 2011, 12:19:22 PM
Nah, Ghostbusters actually has some techy paraphernalia. I don't think of it as Sci-Fi but a better case can be made for it than Big Trouble.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 27, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
Wait, they had sci fi weapons and equipment for capturing ghosts in Big Trouble in Little China?  Not quite the same.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 27, 2011, 02:14:33 PM
I think LOST is on par with Ghostbusters as far as sci-fi–ness, which is why I didn't include it (even though I did vote for Venkman). Both have overtly paranormal elements that characters attempt to explain / control with science, but ultimately it's magic.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 27, 2011, 02:17:48 PM
I think LOST is on par with Ghostbusters as far as sci-fi–ness, which is why I didn't include it (even though I did vote for Venkman). Both have overtly paranormal elements that characters attempt to explain / control with science, but ultimately it's magic.

Just like House.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 27, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
I think LOST is on par with Ghostbusters as far as sci-fi–ness, which is why I didn't include it (even though I did vote for Venkman). Both have overtly paranormal elements that characters attempt to explain / control with science, but ultimately it's magic.

You can say that about lightsabers and hyperdrive, and the fuckin force.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 27, 2011, 02:49:50 PM
I think LOST is on par with Ghostbusters as far as sci-fi–ness, which is why I didn't include it (even though I did vote for Venkman). Both have overtly paranormal elements that characters attempt to explain / control with science, but ultimately it's magic.

You can say that about lightsabers and hyperdrive, and the fuckin force.

What the fuck is a midichlorian?!?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 27, 2011, 03:02:21 PM
I think LOST is on par with Ghostbusters as far as sci-fi–ness, which is why I didn't include it (even though I did vote for Venkman). Both have overtly paranormal elements that characters attempt to explain / control with science, but ultimately it's magic.

You can say that about lightsabers and hyperdrive, and the fuckin force.

No, only the fuckin force.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 27, 2011, 03:02:39 PM
You can say hyperdrive works by magic, jackhole.  There's no real explanation for it.  Warpdrive on the other hand is does obey the laws of physics.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 27, 2011, 03:06:21 PM
*Blows dust off of Bachelor's thesis.*

Fun thing about Merlin, initially he achieved most of this feats through practical means, the Disguising of Uther so he could get it on with Igraine?"' Make-up not altering the morphic field.

You can say hyperdrive works by magic, jackhole.  There's no real explanation for it.  Warpdrive on the other hand is does obey the laws of physics.
No, it doesn't, Warp uses a dimensional state that doesn't exist, you can't have warp without subspace and subspace doesn't exist, it's no more hard science than a hyperdrive.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Sideswipe on August 27, 2011, 03:09:54 PM
It uses no such thing.  It creates a field around the ship that moves space around it.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 27, 2011, 03:13:33 PM
You can say hyperdrive works by magic, jackhole.  There's no real explanation for it.  Warpdrive on the other hand is does obey the laws of physics.

 The difference is, with sci-fi, it's the writer trying to disguise magic with science. With Lost and Ghostbusters, it's the characters trying to apply science to paranormal phenomena. In the case of Ghostbusters, it's mostly effective. In Lost, the Dharma Init. is just coming up with workarounds and stop-gaps to kind of accomplish what they want...sometimes... I guess that's the fine line that allows me to exclude the Losties and keep Venkman.

It uses no such thing.  It creates a field around the ship that moves space around it.

But how is that done?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 27, 2011, 03:21:17 PM
You can say hyperdrive works by magic, jackhole.  There's no real explanation for it.  Warpdrive on the other hand is does obey the laws of physics.

 The difference is, with sci-fi, it's the writer trying to disguise magic with science. With Lost and Ghostbusters, it's the characters trying to apply science to paranormal phenomena. In the case of Ghostbusters, it's mostly effective. In Lost, the Dharma Init. is just coming up with workarounds and stop-gaps to kind of accomplish what they want...sometimes... I guess that's the fine line that allows me to exclude the Losties and keep Venkman.

Whatever. Locke was a fuckin' badass.  ;D
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 27, 2011, 03:35:54 PM
It uses no such thing.  It creates a field around the ship that moves space around it.
Yes that field is created by manipulating subspace.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 27, 2011, 03:44:18 PM
You can say hyperdrive works by magic, jackhole.  There's no real explanation for it.  Warpdrive on the other hand is does obey the laws of physics.

 The difference is, with sci-fi, it's the writer trying to disguise magic with science. With Lost and Ghostbusters, it's the characters trying to apply science to paranormal phenomena. In the case of Ghostbusters, it's mostly effective. In Lost, the Dharma Init. is just coming up with workarounds and stop-gaps to kind of accomplish what they want...sometimes... I guess that's the fine line that allows me to exclude the Losties and keep Venkman.

Whatever. Locke was a fuckin' badass.  ;D

Agreed. He was a tragically lost, scared little badass. I had him somewhere near the top. Ben was #2.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 27, 2011, 03:57:58 PM
You can say hyperdrive works by magic, jackhole.  There's no real explanation for it.  Warpdrive on the other hand is does obey the laws of physics.

 The difference is, with sci-fi, it's the writer trying to disguise magic with science. With Lost and Ghostbusters, it's the characters trying to apply science to paranormal phenomena. In the case of Ghostbusters, it's mostly effective. In Lost, the Dharma Init. is just coming up with workarounds and stop-gaps to kind of accomplish what they want...sometimes... I guess that's the fine line that allows me to exclude the Losties and keep Venkman.

Whatever. Locke was a fuckin' badass.  ;D

Agreed. He was a tragically lost, scared little badass. I had him somewhere near the top. Ben was #2.

Locke was Everyman, the ultimate in faith.

Ben was amazing, I should've included him. Total space, especially since I had Locke at #12.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 27, 2011, 04:27:37 PM
8. Taylor (Planet of the Apes)

Taylor's a great, unique character. I love how cynical & misanthropic he is during the first act of the film. Wish I thought to put him on my list.


That's the brilliance; he goes from being a misanthrope to a humanist.  The only humanist, really.
Yes, literally! But it takes the subjugation & devolution of the human race as he knows it to become a humanist! Apes & humans alike, he's fed up with societies & institutions. But I just love how nihilistic he is at the beginning as they're journeying through the forbidden zone.


You can say hyperdrive works by magic, jackhole.  There's no real explanation for it.  Warpdrive on the other hand is does obey the laws of physics.

 The difference is, with sci-fi, it's the writer trying to disguise magic with science. With Lost and Ghostbusters, it's the characters trying to apply science to paranormal phenomena.

Agreed, Bill. A lot of paranormal entertainment (from ghost comedies to "reality" shows like Ghost Hunters) use pseudo-scientific equipment or explanations, but something like Electronic Voice Phenomenon isn't science fiction just because they use technology to record alleged ghost voices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon)). I think the technology in Ghostbusters is more accurately pseudoscience than science fiction.

However, it's rather amusing to think of Ivan Reitman as a "Master of Science Fiction". According to this list, Ivan Reitman creates better sci-fi characters than Philip K Dick & Harlan Ellison. All hail the visionary Ivan! ;) (I didn't see his movie Evolution, how sci-fi was that? Was it any better than Father's Day?)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 27, 2011, 04:29:16 PM
Im still shocked paul atredis (sic) did not make the list.  Dune is still pretty much the epitome of a sci/fi book in my mind. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: anais.jude on August 27, 2011, 10:30:52 PM
Oopsie Moment (Hopefully the only one) – Roy Batty

Points: According to Katonic


17. Roy Batty (Blade Runner)

#17 is 9 points, correct?

Roy Batty was #3 on my list. Which would be 23 points?

23+9=32 points. And #50 on the final LOC was 28 points, so... Batty's missing.

His logic seems pretty on the ball

 [/b](http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/RoyBatty.jpg)
 

Full Name: Roy Batty: Model Nexus-6 N6MAA10816
From: Blade Runner
Planet of Origin: [Blank]
Position: leader of the renegade Nexus-6 replicants, combat model
Known For: Having platinum blonde hair, having a weird British yet not-British accent, having more insight into humanity than humans do.

Sci Fi Themes: Knowing that your life is about to end and coming to terms with it (androids and humans alike…or just androids if
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
, coming to the realization that everything you think you know is not true

Dossier:
There is no way I can say it better than the man himself
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZTzA_xesrL8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US]/center]
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 27, 2011, 11:15:07 PM
Quote
Haven't read a lot of science fiction then, have you?
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Ive read a decent amount.  What do you have against dune?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Pak-Man on August 27, 2011, 11:38:30 PM
Well a lot of these entries don't qualify under the hard-and-fast rules of Science Fiction.

Quote from: wikipedia
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with imaginary but more or less plausible (or at least non-supernatural) content such as future settings, futuristic science and technology, space travel, aliens, and paranormal abilities. Exploring the consequences of scientific innovations is one purpose of science fiction, making it a "literature of ideas".
 
Science fiction is largely based on writing rationally about alternative possible worlds or futures. It is similar to, but differs from, fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature (though some elements in a story might still be pure imaginative speculation).

Only a handful of this stuff would qualify as hard Science Fiction. Most of it tends more toward "Space Opera". Which is sort of like a fantasy story set in a futuristic or alternate universe. It's the difference between Star Trek's attempts to scientifically explain their Tricorders and Phasers and what-not, and Han Solo's Laser Blaster, which just kinda shoots lasers because that would rock. But we lump the two together a LOT because I think it makes it easier on the book stores. :^)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 28, 2011, 12:06:03 AM
I dunno how plausible i would say the stuff in Dune is but it is all explain, vaguely through science.  it is doing that its so far in the future that stuff looks almost magical thing. 
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Watchman on August 28, 2011, 12:43:15 AM
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/anaisjude/RoyBatty.jpg)
 

Full Name: Roy Batty: Model Nexus-6 N6MAA10816
From: Blade Runner
Planet of Origin: [Blank]
Position: leader of the renegade Nexus-6 replicants, combat model
Known For: Having platinum blonde hair, having a weird British yet not-British accent, having more insight into humanity than humans do.

Sci Fi Themes: Knowing that your life is about to end and coming to terms with it (androids and humans alike…or just androids if
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
, coming to the realization that everything you think you know is not true

Dossier:
There is no way I can say it better than the man himself
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZTzA_xesrL8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US]/center]
Thank you, Anais. Wonderful write-up.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Asbestos Bill on August 28, 2011, 11:21:54 AM
Only a handful of this stuff would qualify as hard Science Fiction. Most of it tends more toward "Space Opera". Which is sort of like a fantasy story set in a futuristic or alternate universe. It's the difference between Star Trek's attempts to scientifically explain their Tricorders and Phasers and what-not, and Han Solo's Laser Blaster, which just kinda shoots lasers because that would rock. But we lump the two together a LOT because I think it makes it easier on the book stores. :^)

I voted for hard SF, but nobody from Planetes made it :-\ (Star Trek is not Hard SF)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 28, 2011, 11:48:56 AM
4. Andrew Ryan (Bioshock)

&

24. GERTY (Moon)

Totally should have been on my list.

19)Alfred Bester(babylon 5)

Oh! I forgot about him. He was the Chekov guy from Psycorps, right? As it was, Vir was my only B5 character.

Yeah he was a villain but he was very interesting character in his own right and proof that WK can can.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Compound on August 28, 2011, 12:32:02 PM

Yeah he was a villain but he was very interesting character in his own right and proof that WK can can.

Koenig can can?

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1470/kcan.jpg)

(Shudder)

(Oh, and sorry Walter.)
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 28, 2011, 12:56:42 PM
What constitutes something that is REALLY representative of the genre?  My next choice epitome of sci/fi would probably by Ray Bradbury's  The Martian Chronicles, or Asimov's I Robot.  I would figure both of those fit totally into the genre right?
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 28, 2011, 01:02:14 PM
Science fiction is probably the most subdivided genre there is; all three of those represent the variety contained within the genre
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 28, 2011, 01:09:23 PM
Science fiction is probably the most subdivided genre there is; all three of those represent the variety contained within the genre

Agreed, although fantasy comes pretty close, despite most people thinking D & D type stuff when they think of it.

Not to disagree with either of you (because I don't necessarily), but Ray Bradbury doesn't consider himself an SF writer, although based on his definition, he sees sci fi as hard sci fi.  Personally for me it's Dr. Who, which isn't hard sci fi by any stretch but the very nature of the program takes viewers from one "what if" scenario to another episode to episode (or to go old school, from serial to serial).  But that is the tricky thing about epitomes: how can one show/character/story represent a genre with such a vast playing field.

I think part of the reason that Dune might not be the epitome (then again, whose to say what an epitome is.  If it's an epitome to you, then that's fine) is that while it is sci-fi, it also seems to take a lot from old sagas and such (I'm sure that there's a specific work that it can be compared to that escapes my grasp at the moment).  It seems to take a lot from epics about kingdoms at war and revolution (as well as mysticism) and such, it has as much to do with them as spaceships and aliens.
Title: Re: Top 110010 Sci-Fi Characters
Post by: Tripe on August 28, 2011, 01:18:34 PM
Well fantasy and sci-fi are sort of semi co-joined twins.
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Post by: Tripe on August 28, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
Out of curiosity what things?
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 28, 2011, 01:22:45 PM
Out of curiosity what things?

Not things.  Stuff!  Pay attention.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 28, 2011, 01:34:14 PM
Out of curiosity what things?
The feudal structure of the Landsraad and the "desert people" and their messiah leap out to me.  Aren't the Fedaykin even something similar to a current arab group? Fedayeen or something?

Yeah, it takes elements from actual events, but to be fair, art doesn't exist in a vacuum and sci fi isn't any different.  After all, famous shows like the Twilight Zone and Star Trek were generally all about the social issues of the time (sometimes clunkily, sometimes brilliantly) and space operas are essentially fairy tales and swashbucklers with aliens.  The creativeness comes from taking pre-existing elements and doing something unique with them.  I'm not a big Dune fan, but the writer created a well-realized world with a focus on it's eco-system, which may determine the fate of intergalactic travel.
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Post by: Tripe on August 28, 2011, 01:38:24 PM
And the planet itself is pretty new to Dune especially the worms. I realize it's an aquired taste but it's still sci fi, it's not even the most questionable series on my list but I suppose people don't read Moorcock and Burroughs all that much. :)
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Post by: Doctor Who? on August 28, 2011, 03:07:09 PM

Yeah he was a villain but he was very interesting character in his own right and proof that WK can can.

Koenig can can?

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1470/kcan.jpg)

(Shudder)

(Oh, and sorry Walter.)

That was supposed to read 'can act" I was posting on IE and it doesn't let me see what I am typing.
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Post by: Watchman on August 28, 2011, 11:44:26 PM
This might happen more with Horror than Sci-fi, but I hate when filmmakers & artists go out of their way to distance themselves from the genre.

"This is more than just Horror, this is a supernatural thriller."
"I hate sci-fi, but my wife persuaded me to read the script and I realized it's a great story. But it is NOT science fiction, it's a domestic drama that takes place in a futuristic space cruise involving nanotech A.I. & parallel universes."

Genre will always be ghettoized, and the finest examples often aren't recognized as "legitimate" until after they're dead; think H.P. Lovecraft & Philip K Dick.

Reading your debates about what you do/don't consider sci-fi made me think of this. I'm assuming everyone posting in this thread thinks of sci-fi in positive terms, but there are plenty of snobs out there who take it as an insult to be associated with "Sci-Fi".
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 28, 2011, 11:46:30 PM
Are there any comic books that are sci fi? 
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Post by: Compound on August 29, 2011, 01:18:13 AM
Are there any comic books that are sci fi? 

Green Lantern, Legion of Superheroes, Guardians of the Galaxy, 2000 AD...
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 29, 2011, 05:33:32 AM
Are there any comic books that are sci fi?  
Despite your name, I can't tell whether this is sarcasm or not.

Yeah, I could go on forever on that one.  I mean, well over 50 percent of super-hero books are sci-fi.  Do you mean more traditional, like a space opera?  Or hard sci-fi?  For hard sci-fi, Warren Ellis has done quite a few good ones, including Ocean, Orbiter, and Ministry of Space.  For space opera, there's aforementioned Green Lantern as well as the incredibly trippy New Gods books by Jack Kirby.

Some personal favourite sci fi comics: We3, Transmetropolitan (who's Hunter S Thompson like protagonist was my number 6), The Invisibles (which is also equal parts fantasy), Marvelman/Miricleman, Tharg's Future Shocks, Ex Machina, Ronin (one of Frank Miller's best works), Sweet Tooth and Gantz.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 29, 2011, 08:18:37 AM
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True. But I think questions of genre are important for understanding a work

How so?  From what i would gather this is quite near your bailiwick so I am just trying to understand what you know. 




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Despite your name, I can't tell whether this is sarcasm or not.

I guess i was talking about this "hard" Sci FI category, because i was thinking of silver surfer and the like and i realized this did not meet Imrahils definition. 
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Post by: Pak-Man on August 29, 2011, 09:20:57 AM
Genre's really just a good way to organize a book store or typecast an author. It can help a little bit with composition because there's something of a template to work with. In my (unpublished) writing experience, though, it can be very limiting to come to a decision in your writings by going, "Well this is X genre, so it's supposed to go like this." It's best to let the story flow and be what it is, and leave the pigeon-holing to the librarians.
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Post by: Watchman on August 29, 2011, 09:49:02 AM
Genre's really just a good way to organize a book store or typecast an author. It can help a little bit with composition because there's something of a template to work with. In my (unpublished) writing experience, though, it can be very limiting to come to a decision in your writings by going, "Well this is X genre, so it's supposed to go like this." It's best to let the story flow and be what it is, and leave the pigeon-holing to the librarians.

Good point, but why must you pigeon-hole librarians as pigeon-holers? Why not critics or pop culture columnists?
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Post by: Pak-Man on August 29, 2011, 10:07:17 AM
Just using them as the example because they're kind of the quintessential organizers of books. It's all over the place.
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Post by: Tripe on August 29, 2011, 10:58:51 AM
Genre's also useful when discovering new authors. If you like William Gibson you might very well like Neal Stephenson for example.
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Post by: Watchman on August 29, 2011, 12:13:17 PM
Just using them as the example because they're kind of the quintessential organizers of books. It's all over the place.

But unlike critics & gossip columnists, librarians keep their opinions to themselves & don't go all Joan Rivers on their patrons.

Hmm... this leads me to an odd thought. Imagine a Dewey Decimal system based on opinion rather than genre. Some books are in the Pretentious section. Some are in Overrated. Some are in Underrated. Hackwork. Incomprehensible. Anti-Art. Right. Wrong. FatGayAspergerJewMulattoArby's...
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 29, 2011, 12:14:33 PM
Genre's really just a good way to organize a book store or typecast an author. It can help a little bit with composition because there's something of a template to work with. In my (unpublished) writing experience, though, it can be very limiting to come to a decision in your writings by going, "Well this is X genre, so it's supposed to go like this." It's best to let the story flow and be what it is, and leave the pigeon-holing to the librarians.

That's disgusting.
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Post by: Tripe on August 29, 2011, 12:17:28 PM
Depends on the librarian:

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/TripeHoundRedux/Forum%20Furniture/librarian.jpg)
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Post by: Watchman on August 29, 2011, 12:26:08 PM
Don't you be dissin' libraries. Remember, my local library accepted my suggestion to carry Best of Rifftrax Shorts Vol 1 & 2, in addition to my suggestions on MST3K box sets. After returning it one day, I even overheard a local librarian exclaiming "I love MST3K!"

But I think you'd accept the following individual as a librarian: (http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/object/103/103064/gypsy_mst3k_pictureboxart_160w.jpg)

Methinks y'all need to brush up on this: http://www.rifftrax.com/shorts/library-world (http://www.rifftrax.com/shorts/library-world)
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Post by: Pak-Man on August 29, 2011, 01:01:48 PM
I'm not really dissing genre organization. I guess I'm saying it's more useful after the creative process than it is before/during,
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 29, 2011, 01:25:29 PM
I'm not really dissing genre organization. I guess I'm saying it's more useful after the creative process than it is before/during,

I'm not sure that's true.  See my post above; it allows you as an author to consider what place your work is taking in a larger scheme, and to what audience you're going to aim it.  Even choosing to write prose instead of poetry is a genre decision, and that's part of the "creative process."

I think it really all depends on the author and what he wants to create.  I've been reading Haruki Murakami's Wind Up Bird Chronicle, and while this book can be considered fantasy (specifically the often tricky category of "magic realism"), the fantasy elements seem secondary to the character's emotional journey.
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Post by: anais.jude on August 29, 2011, 02:42:28 PM
I agree with Im, but that is what I personally find enjoyable in reading Genre fiction. This also explains why I have a master's degree in English. As for you lovely people on this lovely forum, I don't care what you call it, I'm just glad you read :)
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Post by: anais.jude on August 29, 2011, 02:51:36 PM
Does straight fiction mean it can get married?
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 29, 2011, 02:56:45 PM
Only to non fiction.  Fiction to fiction marriages are not reconized.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 29, 2011, 02:57:34 PM
HOT LEATHER BOUND ACTION!!!
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Post by: goflyblind on August 29, 2011, 03:42:52 PM
...your bailiwick ...

i propose we just step back from the discussion for a moment and bask in the goofy-sounding-ness of the word bailiwick.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 29, 2011, 03:43:44 PM
I LOVE that word.  Forsooth. 
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Post by: Tripe on August 29, 2011, 03:46:00 PM
Ever been to the Channel Islands?
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 29, 2011, 04:19:34 PM
Channel Islands California?  Yeah i am from that area. 
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Post by: Tripe on August 29, 2011, 04:25:23 PM
Nope, the Channel Island between England and France.

You'd probably enjoy their official names....