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Title: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on October 28, 2010, 07:27:31 PM
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/

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Christopher Nolan reveals title of third Batman film and that it wont be the Riddler
Oct. 27, 2010 | 6:25 a.m.

Nolan was most eager to talk about the fact that Warner Bros. had  agreed with his argument that the film should resist the current 3-D craze and instead use high-definition approaches and IMAX cameras to strike out on a different cinematic path than the stereoscopic technology that, for better or worse, has become the dominant conversation in the blockbuster sector.

Check back here later in the morning for a more in-depth look at that decision and the Nolan ambitions and reasons behind it.

As for the title, it shows the writer-directors intention to keep his Bruce Wayne trilogy tightly stitched together. Well use many of the same characters as we have all along, and well be introducing some new ones, Nolan said cryptically.  I had an odd thought: What if Nolan somehow brings back Harvey Dent? The only reason I even mention it is because, back during post-production on the second film, Nolan told me that the title The Dark Knight was just as much about Dent and his fall from the status of shining-knight civic crusader. Dent was plainly dead at the end of the last film, though, and Nolan has been intent on keeping his Gotham City film firmly rooted in a gritty gangland realism this isnt a franchise that has veered off into the supernatural or even much super-science.

Nolan plays things close to the vest hes one of the few filmmakers of his generation who actually does wear a vest and he chuckled when I tried to get a few more details out of him. Oh, you know me, I dont talk. He began our conversation by comparing it with a visit to the dentists office. Well, if so, hes a patient who never opens wide. I asked if he could imagine a time when Warner Bros. would let a filmmaker shoot a Batman script where the villain isnt one of the signature creations from the comic books. Ah, Geoff Boucher, master of the leading question, he said with a chuckle.

Thats when he did agree, however, to eliminate a villain candidate, namely Edward Nigma, the green-suited Riddler, who many people (myself included) assumed was the next natural choice. That character could be taken in a lot of directions think of Kevin Spaceys character in Seven as a compass point for one of those dark paths but Nolan and his team are going a different way. As with Dark Knight, the new film has a script written by Nolan and his brother, Jonah, and its based on a story by the director and David Goyer. Earlier, I got Nolan to take Mr. Freeze off the list and, yes, this is like pulling teeth but dont think for a minute that I mind. Nolan makes sublime films, and any secrets he wants to keep in place are done so to protect the final product. As for me, Im hoping now for Hugo Strange who, come to think of it, looks a bit like a dentist

So, we know the title, and we know the villain won't be The Riddler (damnit!).

We also know that it is based on a comic book and will most likely be in color.

July 20, 2012 is the release date, and I'm counting every damn second.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on October 28, 2010, 07:38:30 PM
You can call it any damn thing you please, I just ask two things: DO NOT HAVE A LOVE INTEREST, and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome). The ultra serious Nolan version of  Batman has already figured out he can't have a girlfriend without endangering her (something the audience figured out many years ago), and would have no problem punching a female villain. So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on October 28, 2010, 08:26:14 PM
You can call it any damn thing you please, I just ask two things: DO NOT HAVE A LOVE INTEREST, and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome). The ultra serious Nolan version of  Batman has already figured out he can't have a girlfriend without endangering her (something the audience figured out many years ago), and would have no problem punching a female villain. So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.

Casting is underway for a new female character, sources say; that could be a villain, a new love interest, or just another character who happens to be a woman. My bet is on number three.

I also don't want Bruce to be all "mopey" because of Rachel's death, but I don't see how it's possible if the story is going to focus on Bruce Wayne as Batman again. If he can carry the burden of Harvey Dent's death, and the burden of the people the Joker killed, he can carry the burden of Rachel's death. That's the Batman I want to see.

As for a villain (since my top picks, Riddler and Mr. Freeze, have already been axed) - I'd like to see The Ventriloquist, though it would be difficult to make him intimidating.

My current top pick would be Bane. The highly intelligent and therefore more dangerous Bane, not the stupid grunting lugnut we saw in Batman and Robin. Maybe both, even.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on October 29, 2010, 12:39:58 AM
You can call it any damn thing you please, I just ask two things: DO NOT HAVE A LOVE INTEREST, and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome). The ultra serious Nolan version of  Batman has already figured out he can't have a girlfriend without endangering her (something the audience figured out many years ago), and would have no problem punching a female villain. So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.

I don't know what about Catwoman as a costumed hero who is out to get Batman because she thinks he killed Dent?  Now that would be interesting.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on October 29, 2010, 05:12:08 AM
So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.
I think most people who follow this here know what my choice would be.

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on October 29, 2010, 06:01:41 AM
You can call it any damn thing you please, I just ask two things: DO NOT HAVE A LOVE INTEREST, and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome). The ultra serious Nolan version of  Batman has already figured out he can't have a girlfriend without endangering her (something the audience figured out many years ago), and would have no problem punching a female villain. So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.

I don't know what about Catwoman as a costumed hero who is out to get Batman because she thinks he killed Dent?  Now that would be interesting.
Not really, because that would be changing the backstory and motivastions and everything about the character (besides, Talia would have similar motivations because he killed Ras Al Gul) and she wouldn't be a threat to him in a fight.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on October 29, 2010, 06:41:10 AM
You can call it any damn thing you please, I just ask two things: DO NOT HAVE A LOVE INTEREST, and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome). The ultra serious Nolan version of  Batman has already figured out he can't have a girlfriend without endangering her (something the audience figured out many years ago), and would have no problem punching a female villain. So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.

I don't know what about Catwoman as a costumed hero who is out to get Batman because she thinks he killed Dent?  Now that would be interesting.
Not really, because that would be changing the backstory and motivastions and everything about the character (besides, Talia would have similar motivations because he killed Ras Al Gul) and she wouldn't be a threat to him in a fight.

Well The movie Joker and Ras Al Gul were not exactly the same as their comic book counter parts so I don't see how changing the back story would hurt that much.

Also they could cast an actress who works out in the part. 

I am not saying I want her in it just that there are ways that she could be it there is no reason the movie would be bad just because Catwoman is in it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lmolson73 on October 29, 2010, 07:41:58 PM
You can call it any damn thing you please, I just ask two things: DO NOT HAVE A LOVE INTEREST, and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome). The ultra serious Nolan version of  Batman has already figured out he can't have a girlfriend without endangering her (something the audience figured out many years ago), and would have no problem punching a female villain. So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.

I'd like to see Harley Quinn in a live action film, though I can't think of any particular actress who would be the best choice to play her. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on October 29, 2010, 07:47:03 PM
You can call it any damn thing you please, I just ask two things: DO NOT HAVE A LOVE INTEREST, and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome). The ultra serious Nolan version of  Batman has already figured out he can't have a girlfriend without endangering her (something the audience figured out many years ago), and would have no problem punching a female villain. So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.

I'd like to see Harley Quinn in a live action film, though I can't think of any particular actress who would be the best choice to play her. 
Me too. I think she'd be a good choice as she would be trying to free Joker from Arkham and she works mostly in the background, not a hand to hand combater. Maybe we only see the Joker in deep shadow and hear his voice a little.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 31, 2010, 07:00:14 PM
Yeah, I hope it's Talia.  They should also find a way to "resurrect" Ra's.

Well, there's always the Lazarus Pit, but that doesn't seem right for the movie versions of the character.  Still, that sounds like a fine idea.

Still, rather than one big villain, it could be a bunch of smaller ones (perhaps with the Penguin as a leader).  Not necessarily going for a lot of villains per se (we know how that usually turns out) but to continue the idea that both Batman and Joker changed everything and that classic crime has been replaced by madmen (which was tackled in the Long Halloween mini-series).  Scarecrow can come back in a small role.  You don't have to give them all special attention but just to show that traditional crime is being supplanted by something most destructive and unsettling.

Or maybe bring in Hugo Strange but also give him elements of recent Bat-Villain Dr. Hurt who wants to break down Batman both physically and psychologically.

If they do the Joker again, I think it would work, but it will be a Hell of a job for the actor replacing Ledger.

You can call it any damn thing you please, I just ask two things: DO NOT HAVE A LOVE INTEREST, and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome). The ultra serious Nolan version of  Batman has already figured out he can't have a girlfriend without endangering her (something the audience figured out many years ago), and would have no problem punching a female villain. So a background plotting type villain like Harley Quinn or Talia, that's fine.

I'd like to see Harley Quinn in a live action film, though I can't think of any particular actress who would be the best choice to play her. 
Me too. I think she'd be a good choice as she would be trying to free Joker from Arkham and she works mostly in the background, not a hand to hand combater. Maybe we only see the Joker in deep shadow and hear his voice a little.

I like Harley, but I don't think she belongs in the Nolan/Goyer version of Gotham.  She's a little too straightforwardly comedic.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Henry88 on October 31, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
 the penguin being the new villain  would be great  he is really underappreciated.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on October 31, 2010, 08:16:10 PM
the penguin being the new villain  would be great  he is really underappreciated.
And horribly butchered in Batman Returns.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Henry88 on October 31, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
the penguin being the new villain  would be great  he is really underappreciated.
And horribly butchered in Batman Returns.

and now they have (slim)chance to redeem him by making him the new villain
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on October 31, 2010, 09:44:33 PM
Maybe they're going to do Jervis Tetch. He needs an "Alice."

Eh... too gimmicky a villain in my opinion.

Nobody agrees with my suggestion of Bane?  :(
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 01, 2010, 05:51:20 AM
If they do the Joker again, I think it would work, but it will be a Hell of a job for the actor replacing Ledger.
Tommy Solomon man, or the kid that did this:

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/w2yv8aT0UFc?fs=1&hl=en_US&hd=1&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Cosmic Muse on November 01, 2010, 07:05:49 AM
....and do not have Catwoman in it (unless she gets the shit kicked out of her in three seconds flat, that would be awesome).

You defame Catwoman in such a vulgar manner!!!! I only reserve such cruelty to a knock off like Black Cat from Spiderman who's nothing more than a Catwoman ripoff who's only purpose seems to be the boobies.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 01, 2010, 07:54:53 AM
I'd rather see Egg-Head or King Tut.
Yesh! Well the latter anyway. :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 01, 2010, 05:50:09 PM
Maybe they're going to do Jervis Tetch. He needs an "Alice."

Eh... too gimmicky a villain in my opinion.

Nobody agrees with my suggestion of Bane?  :(

I don't mind Bane, but like Hush, he is a little too constructed to be "the ultimate Batman villain."  Which is funny, because I am a fan of Dr. Hurt who sort of plays the same role (not that I want him in the movie, I just think there are certain elements of him they could use to beef up the Hugo Strange character.

I'd rather see Egg-Head or King Tut.
Yesh! Well the latter anyway. :)

He's your favourite honky!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Henry88 on November 01, 2010, 06:07:11 PM
mark my words the penguin will be last  villain standing
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on November 03, 2010, 01:05:19 PM
No theories of the female character being Batgirl?!....only kidding....

I think that Penguin is already out of the question.  I don't think Nolan has said anything recently, but in the past he's said that the Penguin won't fit in this universe.  I'm thinking it will be a more obscure character that he can take a lot of licence with.  Perhaps Hush or Strange.  Maybe it will be a serial killer type like Zsasz.  I would also be happy to see Harley in this movie.

If Tom Hardy is to be one of the villains, I think he could do a decent job with a lot of villains, especially if they are reinterpreted by Nolan.

Since Tom Hardy has been cast, I wonder if Joseph Gordon Leavitt is out of the question.  I know you guys may beat me up for saying this, but I think he could do a decent job as a replacement for Heath Ledger (If you don't like Leavitt, go watch Brick right now).  Nolan has said that he won't replace Ledger, but I think that Leavitt would be a great addition in another role as well.

I think that the new Batman game, Arkham City, would be a great idea for a movie. 
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on November 03, 2010, 02:32:34 PM
It'd be interesting if it were Zsasz, though he did already kinda have a cameo and he went out like a punk. (In Batman Begins, one of Falcone's goons has hatch marks showing. Whether this was meant to be Zsasz himself or just a subtle reference could change I guess since he wasn't named.)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 03, 2010, 06:04:16 PM
It'd be interesting if it were Zsasz, though he did already kinda have a cameo and he went out like a punk. (In Batman Begins, one of Falcone's goons has hatch marks showing. Whether this was meant to be Zsasz himself or just a subtle reference could change I guess since he wasn't named.)

I just don't think he's interesting enough to carry an entire movie.  The fact is, even putting aside the Ledger factory, it's really had to follow up the character of the Joker.  I'm not the biggest fan of the 89 Batman, but I have a hard time blaming Burton for putting so much attention on the Joker, because even at his weakest, he's a fascinating character who, like Batman, can be approached in countless ways.  There are many other great Bat-villains, but the Joker is so amazing that if you can't have him in your movie, you are going to need to go in a very different direction (which, in a way, Dark Knight did when compared to Batman Begins).

That's why I think you might want to do a legion of madmen overtaking Gotham.  I also think, despite popular opinion, that you really do need to bring the Joker back.  Insanely challenging?  Definitely!  But I think that the Joker represents the sea change of crime in Gotham to simple corruption to (attempted) social erosion.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on November 03, 2010, 07:05:02 PM
Yeah, I think Bane (both in concept and design) is a little too "90s."

Hush could be interesting, but I think Hush only works as a concept when there's a really deep roster of supporting characters in Batman's world, which Nolan's version doesn't have just yet.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lassieface on November 03, 2010, 07:56:41 PM
So presumably this will be "the greatest movie ever made by man ever of all time!"*

*that's sarcasm, folks, I sure it will be good
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on November 04, 2010, 04:03:25 AM
So presumably this will be "the greatest movie ever made by man ever of all time!"*

*that's sarcasm, folks, I sure it will be good

Yeah, I'll be waiting for the breath-takingly snooty and condecending synopsis when the riff is relased.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: NRRork on November 05, 2010, 01:50:19 AM
I think Batman should be the focus for the first 20 minutes, and then he seemingly dies and the rest of the movie features an androgynous rookie with platinum blond hair and a traumatic past as a child soldier.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on November 05, 2010, 07:05:43 AM
Named Raiden?

Do I win anything for getting the reference?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on November 05, 2010, 11:08:12 AM
It'd be interesting if it were Zsasz, though he did already kinda have a cameo and he went out like a punk. (In Batman Begins, one of Falcone's goons has hatch marks showing. Whether this was meant to be Zsasz himself or just a subtle reference could change I guess since he wasn't named.)

He was indeed named Zsasz, in the courtroom scene where he first appears. Crane has him sent to Arkham, citing his self-mutilation as the cause, so that he can do easy time and be released to Falcone sooner.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Ketchup Pharaoh on November 11, 2010, 07:15:42 AM
I think Hush would be a great villian. Very much like the anti-Bruce Wayne. Plus Bruce and Hush have a history together going all the way back their childhood. Could be interesting, although its not really a character mass society knows much about.

I'm more concerned why every movie now has to either Rise, Return, or take Revenge upon. Can't a movie just Be people? Can't it just Be!? Guess it does sound kind of cool though...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on November 14, 2010, 06:44:12 PM
So much of the source material so far has been derived from the Loeb Batman stories.  I'd look to some of his work to figure out what will come next.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on November 14, 2010, 07:26:31 PM
I'd like to see Harvey Bullock and Renee Montoya brought into the "Nolan-verse".  They're both characters that I think would work well in Nolan's gritty "realistic" Gotham.  And they're interesting characters that a lot could be done with. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on November 14, 2010, 07:28:30 PM
Actually, come to think of it, maybe Montoya is the new female character they're casting for.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TTYT on November 14, 2010, 07:47:06 PM
What about Black Mask? As long as he isn't as scene-gnashing as they made him in Batman: Under the Red Hood, I think he'd be a perfect fit for Nolan's Batman universe.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on November 14, 2010, 09:57:12 PM
Actually, come to think of it, maybe Montoya is the new female character they're casting for.

I though they basically had her in the last one.

They had Ramirez, the only things she had in common with Montoya are that she's a cop, a woman, and Latina.  Montoya wouldn't have been bought out or bribed by the mob.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on November 15, 2010, 08:52:15 AM
Actually, come to think of it, maybe Montoya is the new female character they're casting for.

I though they basically had her in the last one.

They had Ramirez, the only things she had in common with Montoya are that she's a cop, a woman, and Latina.  Montoya wouldn't have been bought out or bribed by the mob.

Right, but I think I read that she was essentially their version of Montoya.

I thought I read somewhere that it was originally going to be Montoya, but they changed it to an original character because they thought fans would be upset at Montoya being portrayed as a cop who could be bought off.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 15, 2010, 03:25:14 PM
Actually, come to think of it, maybe Montoya is the new female character they're casting for.

I though they basically had her in the last one.

They had Ramirez, the only things she had in common with Montoya are that she's a cop, a woman, and Latina.  Montoya wouldn't have been bought out or bribed by the mob.

Right, but I think I read that she was essentially their version of Montoya.

I thought I read somewhere that it was originally going to be Montoya, but they changed it to an original character because they thought fans would be upset at Montoya being portrayed as a cop who could be bought off.

Makes sense.  I think it would be cool if they did a Gotham Central TV series.  Makes more sense than the ill-fated Robin series that somebody tried to get off the ground.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on November 15, 2010, 04:28:21 PM
Actually, come to think of it, maybe Montoya is the new female character they're casting for.

I though they basically had her in the last one.

They had Ramirez, the only things she had in common with Montoya are that she's a cop, a woman, and Latina.  Montoya wouldn't have been bought out or bribed by the mob.

Right, but I think I read that she was essentially their version of Montoya.

I thought I read somewhere that it was originally going to be Montoya, but they changed it to an original character because they thought fans would be upset at Montoya being portrayed as a cop who could be bought off.

Makes sense.  I think it would be cool if they did a Gotham Central TV series.  Makes more sense than the ill-fated Robin series that somebody tried to get off the ground.

That Robin series never

*takes off sunglasses*

...took wing...



YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on November 15, 2010, 06:03:29 PM

That Robin series never

*takes off sunglasses*

...took wing...


ROCK!
(http://www.girlsrockmovie.com/img/palcutb.gif)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 16, 2010, 07:16:27 AM
Actually, come to think of it, maybe Montoya is the new female character they're casting for.

I though they basically had her in the last one.

They had Ramirez, the only things she had in common with Montoya are that she's a cop, a woman, and Latina.  Montoya wouldn't have been bought out or bribed by the mob.

Right, but I think I read that she was essentially their version of Montoya.

I thought I read somewhere that it was originally going to be Montoya, but they changed it to an original character because they thought fans would be upset at Montoya being portrayed as a cop who could be bought off.

Makes sense.  I think it would be cool if they did a Gotham Central TV series.  Makes more sense than the ill-fated Robin series that somebody tried to get off the ground.

That Robin series never

*takes off sunglasses*

...took wing...



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 17, 2010, 02:07:05 PM
Hey, speaking of TV and untrustworthy rumors

http://www.avclub.com/articles/warner-bros-rumored-to-be-prepping-new-liveaction,47765/

Frankly, if they wanted to go the "Smallville" route, a young inexperienced Bruce Wayne traveling around the world preparing for his war on crime would be cool.  But I, like the article, am not putting much stock into this happening.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggans on November 17, 2010, 02:10:22 PM
Until proven otherwise, I choose to believe that they're un-canceling "Birds of Prey".
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 17, 2010, 03:05:10 PM
Frankly, if they wanted to go the "Smallville" route, a young inexperienced Bruce Wayne traveling around the world preparing for his war on crime would be cool. 
With a young Zatanna in tow? I could be down with that.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 17, 2010, 07:18:49 PM
Frankly, if they wanted to go the "Smallville" route, a young inexperienced Bruce Wayne traveling around the world preparing for his war on crime would be cool. 
With a young Zatanna in tow? I could be down with that.

Ooooh, that's good.  How can we sweeten the pot?  They could also bring back Kaiyodai Ken from the animated series.  And of course Ra's Al Ghul (since he's an international villain) could be the big bad for much of the series.  And Henri Ducard.  And since he's constantly trying to get taught by the best at what they do, there's always going to be people going after those types for whatever reason.  Oh, and Wildcat!  He taught the Batman boxing!  And he can learn meditation at Panda Narbat or whatever the hell that place is called.

The think the only issue is that there wouldn't be a recurring set that most TV series of these kind have... unless Bruce used his private zeppelin!  OK, maybe that last one just made it a little too awesome.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 18, 2010, 04:48:23 AM
Frankly, if they wanted to go the "Smallville" route, a young inexperienced Bruce Wayne traveling around the world preparing for his war on crime would be cool. 
With a young Zatanna in tow? I could be down with that.
Ooooh, that's good.  How can we sweeten the pot?  They could also bring back Kaiyodai Ken from the animated series.  And of course Ra's Al Ghul (since he's an international villain) could be the big bad for much of the series.  And Henri Ducard.  And since he's constantly trying to get taught by the best at what they do, there's always going to be people going after those types for whatever reason.  Oh, and Wildcat!  He taught the Batman boxing!  And he can learn meditation at Panda Narbat or whatever the hell that place is called.

The think the only issue is that there wouldn't be a recurring set that most TV series of these kind have... unless Bruce used his private zeppelin!  OK, maybe that last one just made it a little too awesome.
As long as there's a hot lil brunette in some gritty re-imaging of fishnets and a tail-coat I'm fine with anything else. ;)

Actually the learning thing would be a fun recurring element as a engine for plot arcs.

And young Talia could provide the Betty to Zatanna's Veronica (have I got that the right way round? Ones a Brunette the other's a Blonde I know but I don't really read Archie, ever).
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Manatee on November 19, 2010, 02:21:57 PM
The problem here is most the original batman villains are just ridiculous, almost as bad as most of spiderman's. The good ones that could possibly be in a serious movie have been used up aside from the riddler, so what's left? Also twoface is a good character but damn the guy playing him was just awful, a blight on every scene he was in so he better not be back.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TTYT on November 20, 2010, 03:35:46 AM
The problem here is most the original batman villains are just ridiculous, almost as bad as most of spiderman's. The good ones that could possibly be in a serious movie have been used up aside from the riddler, so what's left? Also twoface is a good character but damn the guy playing him was just awful, a blight on every scene he was in so he better not be back.

No, Dent's dead. I still think Black Mask would work. That, or the Penguin - he could add an extra layer of tension, what with him working as both a villain to Batman and as a financial competitor to Bruce Wayne.

Or maybe we could just FINALLY get Harley Quinn in a movie, maybe having her come in to take over what the Joker was doing

Or, for all we know, they could have Joker back, played by a different person and written to be just slightly different. Still Joker, but different. Like maybe he's cleaned up like his comic incarnation and is slightly more clownish, but not much. Sort of like how they wrote him for Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker or Arkham Asylum. I mean, it's Joker - he operates with no rhyme or reason, so it'd paradoxically make sense that his personality is just slightly different every time he appears.

EDIT: Apparently I missed where Nolan thinks the Penguin probably won't be it, and the rumour that there's gonna be a female villain... Please be Harley Quinn, please be Harley Quinn...

Oh, and also, this movie's gonna end the storyline. Good to know they're not gonna let this run on forever.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Manatee on November 20, 2010, 12:26:38 PM
The problem here is most the original batman villains are just ridiculous, almost as bad as most of spiderman's. The good ones that could possibly be in a serious movie have been used up aside from the riddler, so what's left? Also twoface is a good character but damn the guy playing him was just awful, a blight on every scene he was in so he better not be back.

No, Dent's dead. I still think Black Mask would work. That, or the Penguin - he could add an extra layer of tension, what with him working as both a villain to Batman and as a financial competitor to Bruce Wayne.

Or maybe we could just FINALLY get Harley Quinn in a movie, maybe having her come in to take over what the Joker was doing

Or, for all we know, they could have Joker back, played by a different person and written to be just slightly different. Still Joker, but different. Like maybe he's cleaned up like his comic incarnation and is slightly more clownish, but not much. Sort of like how they wrote him for Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker or Arkham Asylum. I mean, it's Joker - he operates with no rhyme or reason, so it'd paradoxically make sense that his personality is just slightly different every time he appears.

EDIT: Apparently I missed where Nolan thinks the Penguin probably won't be it, and the rumour that there's gonna be a female villain... Please be Harley Quinn, please be Harley Quinn...

Oh, and also, this movie's gonna end the storyline. Good to know they're not gonna let this run on forever.

Harley Quinn is cool but I don't know how she'd work out on here own. They never really set her up in the dark knight. Making her super grimdark would also eliminate most of her charm.

I guess it must be poison ivy? I guess that could be ok depending on how they do it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 21, 2010, 07:15:06 PM
The problem here is most the original batman villains are just ridiculous, almost as bad as most of spiderman's. The good ones that could possibly be in a serious movie have been used up aside from the riddler, so what's left? Also twoface is a good character but damn the guy playing him was just awful, a blight on every scene he was in so he better not be back.

No, Dent's dead. I still think Black Mask would work. That, or the Penguin - he could add an extra layer of tension, what with him working as both a villain to Batman and as a financial competitor to Bruce Wayne.

Or maybe we could just FINALLY get Harley Quinn in a movie, maybe having her come in to take over what the Joker was doing

Or, for all we know, they could have Joker back, played by a different person and written to be just slightly different. Still Joker, but different. Like maybe he's cleaned up like his comic incarnation and is slightly more clownish, but not much. Sort of like how they wrote him for Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker or Arkham Asylum. I mean, it's Joker - he operates with no rhyme or reason, so it'd paradoxically make sense that his personality is just slightly different every time he appears.

EDIT: Apparently I missed where Nolan thinks the Penguin probably won't be it, and the rumour that there's gonna be a female villain... Please be Harley Quinn, please be Harley Quinn...

Oh, and also, this movie's gonna end the storyline. Good to know they're not gonna let this run on forever.

Harley Quinn is cool but I don't know how she'd work out on here own. They never really set her up in the dark knight. Making her super grimdark would also eliminate most of her charm.

I guess it must be poison ivy? I guess that could be ok depending on how they do it.

I don't think Ivy would be in it.  I think they can do a largely less sci-fi version of her, but I don't really see how her plant obsession would fit in with the larger themes (order, chaos, the law, etc.) of the series so far.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on November 21, 2010, 09:31:14 PM
I could certainly see them trying to do Catwoman, since she doesn't really have any powers (movie incarnations notwithstanding). But I cannot see her lasting in a fight against Christian Bale in full battle gear with extensive ninja training. In these super serious Batman movies he would have no problem hitting a woman. I'm concerned that they would have to severely reduce his fighting ability to try to make it convincing (as they did in Batman Returns, and that was just Michael Keaton). Hopefully they'll get one hell of a fight choreographer!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on November 21, 2010, 10:01:54 PM
Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on November 22, 2010, 12:06:49 AM
Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice

The poor girl would never get a moment's peace if she landed that role.

Not to mention the strength of the geek community's collective nerdgasm would throw the earth off its axis and send it hurtling into the sun.

But it would be so, so worth it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Manatee on November 22, 2010, 02:02:11 AM
If it's catwoman it certainly gives new light to the name the dark knight rises.

Why fool myself? I guess it has to be catwoman but she's just not much of a villain, more like a frenemy with benefits. I don't think she could carry a whole movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TTYT on November 22, 2010, 02:23:26 AM
It's probably going to be Talia, I suspect.

But who knows? Maybe all that stuff is just more misdirection and we'll get Deathstroke - played by Ron Perlman, of course - attempting to hunt down Batman before Gordon gets him (or Deadshot, though he already appeared in one of the Gotham Knight shorts.)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 22, 2010, 03:49:11 AM
It's probably going to be Talia, I suspect.
Wooooo
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on November 22, 2010, 05:30:23 AM


But who knows? Maybe all that stuff is just more misdirection and we'll get Deathstroke - played by Ron Perlman, of course - attempting to hunt down Batman before Gordon gets him (or Deadshot, though he already appeared in one of the Gotham Knight shorts.)
That would be awesome!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on November 22, 2010, 05:42:50 AM
Or they could really surprise us and cast the Riddler (or other villain) as a female.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on November 22, 2010, 05:51:41 AM
Or they could really surprise us and cast the Riddler (or other villain) as a female.
I wouldn't like that because it goes against the comic just for the sake of going against the comic. They cast The Kingpin as black just because Michael Clark Duncan is one of the few people in the world who could physically play that character, and he's a good actor. That's a good reason to change something (and most importantly, they didn't change his personality just because the actor was black). Changing the Riddler to a female just to get another hot actress in the movie, when there are plenty of good actors who can play the role, that's just shameful.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on November 22, 2010, 06:32:59 AM
Or they could really surprise us and cast the Riddler (or other villain) as a female.
I wouldn't like that because it goes against the comic just for the sake of going against the comic. They cast The Kingpin as black just because Michael Clark Duncan is one of the few people in the world who could physically play that character, and he's a good actor. That's a good reason to change something (and most importantly, they didn't change his personality just because the actor was black). Changing the Riddler to a female just to get another hot actress in the movie, when there are plenty of good actors who can play the role, that's just shameful.

Yeah, when I think Chris Nolan movie.  Pointless T & A is what springs to mind first  :P
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggans on November 22, 2010, 09:44:23 AM
Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice

Somebody photoshop this. Now. For, um, no reason.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 22, 2010, 10:59:32 AM
Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice
It'll be Miley and you'll be grateful!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on November 22, 2010, 11:16:22 AM
Ya know, if they decide it will be catwoman, I think Summer Glau is the only choice
It'll be Miley and you'll be grateful!

If that's the case, I have no problem with Batman beating up a woman.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on November 23, 2010, 06:01:37 AM
In the midst of all this, I remembered something that's been in the works for awhile.

(http://www.gothampublicworks.com/images/gallery/forsaken/BFPosterFINAL.jpg)

Interesting looking fan film that's still being put together.  Looks like it might be too overloaded with characters, but it's probably the first "serious" fan film that I've had much interest in, mainly because it's being made by Gotham Public Works, a group of actors and models who specialize in Batman characters, and who's Harley (Tara Strand) is pretty much the perfect representation of the character from the cartoon.  She was so good Paul Dini made her a certificate of authenticity.

So yeah, if you're really desperate to see Harley Quinn in live action, this is probably your best shot.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on November 23, 2010, 09:31:59 AM
In the midst of all this, I remembered something that's been in the works for awhile.

(http://www.gothampublicworks.com/images/gallery/forsaken/BFPosterFINAL.jpg)

Interesting looking fan film that's still being put together.  Looks like it might be too overloaded with characters, but it's probably the first "serious" fan film that I've had much interest in, mainly because it's being made by Gotham Public Works, a group of actors and models who specialize in Batman characters, and who's Harley (Tara Strand) is pretty much the perfect representation of the character from the cartoon.  She was so good Paul Dini made her a certificate of authenticity.

So yeah, if you're really desperate to see Harley Quinn in live action, this is probably your best shot.
Looks interesting. Any idea when it will be out?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on November 23, 2010, 05:13:06 PM
In the midst of all this, I remembered something that's been in the works for awhile.

(http://www.gothampublicworks.com/images/gallery/forsaken/BFPosterFINAL.jpg)

Interesting looking fan film that's still being put together.  Looks like it might be too overloaded with characters, but it's probably the first "serious" fan film that I've had much interest in, mainly because it's being made by Gotham Public Works, a group of actors and models who specialize in Batman characters, and who's Harley (Tara Strand) is pretty much the perfect representation of the character from the cartoon.  She was so good Paul Dini made her a certificate of authenticity.

So yeah, if you're really desperate to see Harley Quinn in live action, this is probably your best shot.
Looks interesting. Any idea when it will be out?

No clue, I get the feeling it's kind of a "we'll work on it when we have the money and time around our real lives" type of project, but I can't be sure.  Now that I've seen a trailer for it though...I might already be cooling on it.  On one hand I love the look of the characters and that they're trying to keep a comic style, on the other hand the two speaking performances they highlight (Joker and Batman) are just...meh.  Actually I'll say Joker is meh, and Batman outright sucks.  He looks like he doesn't fit into that costume at all, and his dialog is delivered like a robot.  The other characters look great, no idea yet if their performances can keep it interesting though.

Harley...still looks perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/v/ATQ5sm_weAM?fs=1&hl=en_US
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on November 23, 2010, 05:40:37 PM
I don't think I'll understand why people like Harley. I want to punch her in the face, especially ther version from the cartoon
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 23, 2010, 05:44:58 PM
The original version then.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on November 23, 2010, 05:48:05 PM
I want to punch all versions of her in the face
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on November 23, 2010, 05:49:51 PM
I thought Harley Quin was invented for the cartoon?

After seeing the trailer, I have to agree with Ronin. The look is good, but the acting is pretty bad. And you're not "Forsaken" if the Joker takes everyone! Forsaken means if they turn their backs on you of their own accord. Also, I hated all the "Twilight pauses" in Batman's dialog.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on November 23, 2010, 06:11:58 PM
I thought Harley Quin was invented for the cartoon?

She was, Paul Dini designed her for one episode thinking she'd be a one shot henchwoman character (Joker's Favor I believe) but she caught on quickly and kept coming back.  Eventually she got adopted into the comics.  I think there were other characters with similar names before that in the comics, but they weren't the same character.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Manatee on November 23, 2010, 09:01:52 PM
I want to punch all versions of her in the face

I want to punch her, too. But not with my fist.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on November 24, 2010, 06:47:55 PM
I want to punch all versions of her in the face

I want to punch her, too. But not with my fist.

You can actually keep the fist part and still make it sexual.

Wow, I can't believe I just went there
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on November 24, 2010, 06:50:32 PM
I want to punch all versions of her in the face

I want to punch her, too. But not with my fist.

You can actually keep the fist part and still make it sexual.

Wow, I can't believe I just went there

My mind immediately went here.

(http://11.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kqgpvwXEEj1qzbfydo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 24, 2010, 07:01:48 PM
I want to punch all versions of her in the face
I want to punch her, too. But not with my fist.
You can actually keep the fist part and still make it sexual.

Wow, I can't believe I just went there
Let me second that wow. Bleeding hell Anais. :o

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Manatee on November 25, 2010, 12:30:44 AM
That would be a little xtreme for a first date, even if she is a villain.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on November 25, 2010, 12:59:46 AM
That would be a little xtreme for a first date, even if she is a villain.

I'm sure Mr. J has had her in more extreme situations. Something involving joy buzzers, grinning inflatable animals, and a pogo stick.

Picture that now, while I go fill out a change of address form for the lowest circle of Hell (because that's where I'm heading now).
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on November 25, 2010, 01:00:17 AM
That would be a little xtreme for a first date, even if she is a villain.

You and I go on different first dates it seems  ;)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on November 25, 2010, 11:41:39 AM
I thought Harley Quin was invented for the cartoon?

She was, Paul Dini designed her for one episode thinking she'd be a one shot henchwoman character (Joker's Favor I believe) but she caught on quickly and kept coming back.  Eventually she got adopted into the comics.  I think there were other characters with similar names before that in the comics, but they weren't the same character.

Heh. I just watched Joker's Favor yesterday.

I love that episode. The soundtrack sends it over the top for me.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lmolson73 on November 28, 2010, 09:54:54 PM
In the midst of all this, I remembered something that's been in the works for awhile.

(http://www.gothampublicworks.com/images/gallery/forsaken/BFPosterFINAL.jpg)

Interesting looking fan film that's still being put together.  Looks like it might be too overloaded with characters, but it's probably the first "serious" fan film that I've had much interest in, mainly because it's being made by Gotham Public Works, a group of actors and models who specialize in Batman characters, and who's Harley (Tara Strand) is pretty much the perfect representation of the character from the cartoon.  She was so good Paul Dini made her a certificate of authenticity.

So yeah, if you're really desperate to see Harley Quinn in live action, this is probably your best shot.
Looks interesting. Any idea when it will be out?

No clue, I get the feeling it's kind of a "we'll work on it when we have the money and time around our real lives" type of project, but I can't be sure.  Now that I've seen a trailer for it though...I might already be cooling on it.  On one hand I love the look of the characters and that they're trying to keep a comic style, on the other hand the two speaking performances they highlight (Joker and Batman) are just...meh.  Actually I'll say Joker is meh, and Batman outright sucks.  He looks like he doesn't fit into that costume at all, and his dialog is delivered like a robot.  The other characters look great, no idea yet if their performances can keep it interesting though.

Harley...still looks perfect.


Gotham Public Works!  !!wootwoot!! I need to go visit their site again, I haven't been there in ages.  I actually really like their Joker way better than any others I have seen.  The character is drawn with such an angular face it's got to be hard to find people who actually look something like that (I would think, anyway).  Their Harley is awesome, and I like Catwoman.  The others are okay.  I just like that fans put this much work into costumes and  making films on whatever they have for a budget.  I have seen many...MANY very horrible costumes.  ((shudder))
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on November 29, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Hey, when did Anais come back.  I've missed 'er.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Crow T. Robot 666 on November 29, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
OK, he was just pausing out of spite towards the end.  This... is where... the fish... lives.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on April 10, 2011, 04:03:52 PM
Not sure if this is legitimate or not, but here goes:

http://movies.ign.com/articles/116/1160724p1.html

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Ra's Al Ghul IS in Dark Knight Rises
Social Network's Pence cast in flashback scenes.


So Ra's Al Ghul will be in The Dark Knight Rises after all, but not in the way that you remember him from Batman Begins.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, actor Josh Pence (The Social Network, Battleship) has been cast as young Ra's in the threequel:

"The story line has also been kept locked up in the Batcave but Pence's casting throws more than a few crumbs to follow. Ra's Al Ghul was played by Liam Neeson in Batman Begins, thus paving the way for a possible return of the supposedly dead character. Also, while the studio never confirmed [Marion] Cotillard's character, it has been rumored to be that of Talia Al Ghul, the daughter of Batman's mentor-turned-enemy. Sources say Pence will appear in scenes that take place 30 years prior to the present story."

Pence played Tyler Winklevoss in The Social Network, but his face was digitally replaced by his "twin" Armie Hammer's in the final film.

Here's the original article, where they mention that the "flashbacks" will take place 30 years in the past.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/social-network-actor-lands-role-176577

Still no official word on Marion Cotilliard playing Talia al Guhl, but I'm sure we'll get it eventually.

I haven't seen The Social Network, so I have no clue if Pence is the right guy for the job, but he does kinda look like Liam Neeson if you squint and cock your head a bit. Thoughts?

Ninja edit: Meant to quote the article, not spoiler it. Whoops.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 10, 2011, 04:30:36 PM
He may not be the same Ra's Al Ghul Liam Neeson played in Batman Begins,remember the one Neeson played was at least the second person to use that name after another person had died.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on April 10, 2011, 04:38:51 PM
I'm excited that part of this film will be shot in Pittsburgh!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 10, 2011, 04:44:11 PM
I'm excited that part of this film will be shot in Pittsburgh!

Ah,so the real villains are going to be the Steelers!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on April 10, 2011, 04:51:37 PM
I'm excited that part of this film will be shot in Pittsburgh!

Ah,so the real villains are going to be the Steelers!

And the comic relief will be the Pirates.  ;)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 10, 2011, 04:54:51 PM
I'm excited that part of this film will be shot in Pittsburgh!

Ah,so the real villains are going to be the Steelers!

And the comic relief will be the Pirates.  ;)

And batman will become the Packers new quarterback.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on April 10, 2011, 04:57:32 PM
I'm excited that part of this film will be shot in Pittsburgh!

Ah,so the real villains are going to be the Steelers!

And the comic relief will be the Pirates.  ;)

And batman will become the Packers new quarterback.


WHOO PACKERS!!!!! Wait, I can't do that anymore....
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on April 10, 2011, 07:39:25 PM
He may not be the same Ra's Al Ghul Liam Neeson played in Batman Begins,remember the one Neeson played was at least the second person to use that name after another person had died.

Actually he was Ras the whole time, but used decoys in order to remain somewhat anonymous.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on April 10, 2011, 08:13:49 PM
He may not be the same Ra's Al Ghul Liam Neeson played in Batman Begins,remember the one Neeson played was at least the second person to use that name after another person had died.
Actually he was Ras the whole time, but used decoys in order to remain somewhat anonymous.
Exactly, as I was watching it I turned to my friend and said something like "odd casting, Ra's isn't Asian" and he said "I know, neither is Liam Neeson".  :D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on April 10, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
He may not be the same Ra's Al Ghul Liam Neeson played in Batman Begins,remember the one Neeson played was at least the second person to use that name after another person had died.

Actually he was Ras the whole time, but used decoys in order to remain somewhat anonymous.

I took that to be the Nolanverse version of the "lazarus pit" (i.e., the title of Ra's al Ghul rotates, thus making it seem like he's being reborn constantly) which is entirely too mystical a thing for his Batman.

There were some rumors flying around that Ra's would be featured not in flashbacks, but reincarnated in a Lazarus Pit as a younger man and part of the main storyline.

Ridiculous for Nolan's Batman, yes, but interesting to think about.

Also, the rumor that Joseph Gordon Levitt would be playing the new Ra's (having inherited the title) but I don't think that's true either (even though his role as Alberto Falcone was never fully confirmed).
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on April 11, 2011, 12:39:40 PM
He may not be the same Ra's Al Ghul Liam Neeson played in Batman Begins,remember the one Neeson played was at least the second person to use that name after another person had died.

Actually he was Ras the whole time, but used decoys in order to remain somewhat anonymous.

I took that to be the Nolanverse version of the "lazarus pit" (i.e., the title of Ra's al Ghul rotates, thus making it seem like he's being reborn constantly) which is entirely too mystical a thing for his Batman.

Which would make sense, except that when the League of Shadows arrived in Gotham after the first Ras died, Liam's character didn't  step forward with a new title, Bruce was introduced to a second decoy, and then figured out that it was a misdirection, leading to a line about duel identity.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on April 11, 2011, 01:47:29 PM
I guess they're going to reboot it again:

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljgu00Z60P1qa9hsto1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on April 11, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
The FUHHHHH.........  ???
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on April 13, 2011, 05:24:02 AM
I guess they're going to reboot it again:

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljgu00Z60P1qa9hsto1_500.jpg)

I'm very much looking forward to this.  My suggestions for cast?

Sam Rockwell as Spider-Man
Clint Eastwood as Ra/'s Al-Ghul
Jack Nicholson as Tougon
and Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton as Dr. JackStraw

A Merchant/Ivory Film
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on April 20, 2011, 01:04:08 PM
Welp, we can all stop speculating on Joseph Gordon Levitt and Marion Cotillard's roles now:

http://www.deadline.com/2011/04/chris-nolan-signs-bat-cast-members-joseph-gordon-levitt-and-marion-cotillard/

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Chris Nolan Signs Bat Cast Members Joseph Gordon-Levitt And Marion Cotillard

Neither of these castings in The Dark Knight Rises has been a surprise since February, but it demonstrates Chris Nolan's preference for working with the same actors. Both Gordon-Levitt and Cotillard starred in Inception, as did Tom Hardy, who was set earlier. Cotillard, who'll play Wayne Enterprises board member Miranda Tate, was rumored for her role in February, and Deadline was first to reveal that Gordon-Levitt was in talks. He will play John Blake, Gotham beat cop. Here's the official word from Warner Bros:

Quote
    BURBANK, CA, April 19, 2011 Warner Bros. Pictures announced today that Oscar winner Marion Cotillard (La Vie en Rose) and Joseph Gordon-Levitt have joined the cast of The Dark Knight Rises, the epic conclusion to the Dark Knight legend.

    Cotillard will appear as Miranda Tate, a Wayne Enterprises board member eager to help a still-grieving Bruce Wayne resume his fathers philanthropic endeavors for Gotham. Gordon-Levitt will play John Blake, a Gotham City beat cop assigned to special duty under the command of Commissioner Gordon. The film reunites the actors with Christopher Nolan, who recently directed them in the award-winning blockbuster Inception.

    The director stated, When you collaborate with people as talented as Marion and Joe, it comes as no surprise that you would want to repeat the experience. I immediately thought of them for the roles of Miranda and Blake, and I am looking forward to working with both of them again.

    Heading the cast of The Dark Knight Rises, Christian Bale stars as Bruce Wayne/Batman. The main cast also includes Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle and Tom Hardy as Bane. Nolan will direct the film from a screenplay he wrote with Jonathan Nolan, from a story by Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer. Christopher Nolan will also produce the film with his longtime producing partner, Emma Thomas, and Charles Roven.

    The Dark Knight Rises is slated for release on July 20, 2012. The film will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company.

...and that's that. JGL is a cop and Cotillard is a sexy business lady.

I have no doubt there's more to their roles than this article lets on. Perhaps Miranda Tate is a new love interest for Bruce?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on April 28, 2011, 09:59:32 PM
The Dark Knight Rises will be filming a key scene in India:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JakeLester/news/?a=36120
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Christian Bale The Only Cast Member To Shoot In India for TDKR

Recent reports have put The Dark Knight Rises shooting in India, as it turns out Christian Bale will be the only cast member making the trip. Also a fort in India seems to be the primary shooting location.
It seems that when The Dark Knight Rises comes to India to shoot it will only be for a couple of days and only include Christian Bale in the scenes they are shooting. According to The Times of India crew for the porduction will start arriving around May first with Bale showing up on May 4th or May 5th to shoot for around two days starting on May 6th and ending on May 7th. Also they will be shooting at Mehrangarh Fort, located in Jodhpur city in Rajasthan.

Here is the report from The Times of India:

    Nolan had come down to India in December to scout for locations in Jodhpur. That was when he chose to shoot in Jodhpur's Mehrangar Fort. The main crew will start arriving from May 1. Christian Bale is expected to arrive in India on May 4 or May 5. Though permissions have been sought for shooting the film for the whole of May, the unit will shoot in India for only two days May 6 and May 7. hotels in Jaipur and Jodhpur have been booked for the crew. Says a source, "Nolan had scouted locations in both Jodhpur and Jaipur. But, he fell in love with Jodhpur and decided to return to film here. They are coming with a very small unit of around 15 people and will be shooting here for two days. There are no Bollywood actors being cast in the movie. But, local actors and crew members might be roped in. The unit wants to use the beautiful fort as the background for the movie. However, nothing is known yet whether Jodhpur will feature as an Indian city in the movie or not."

The Dark Knight Rises will be released on July 20, 2012

Check the article link for a picture of the location in question.

Now, this is certainly interesting. In The Dark Knight, Batman went to Hong Kong to retrieve Lao so he could testify against the mob. What could be sending him to this location?

This fort could be where a resurrected League of Shadows is operating from, or it could be Bane's hideout, or it could be both. It could represent some neutral threat (terrorists  :o? I hope not) or it could just be Alfred's secret swinger's pad.

My money's on a League of Shadows base.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on May 09, 2011, 12:26:48 PM
Nolan digs hole in the ground, geeks every have to change their pants

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/CoastToCoastStation/news/?a=36732

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Here are the first two shots of the The Dark Knight Rises" shoot in Jodhpur, India. The photo looks like it was taken from the window of a moving train and shows the crew setting up a green screen for the shoot, which took place today. If you take a close look, it seems like there is a possibility of the Lazarus pit appearing in Chris Nolans upcoming final Batman film. Does that mean, that we will see more, than just a flashback of Ra's al Ghul?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Click the link for more (but less interesting images).

So, people everywhere are reading into this a bit too much (myself included) but it is very, very interesting. Could this be confirmation that a Lazarus Pit will be appearing in The Dark Knight Rises? Or did Nolan just grab a shovel and some green tarp to rile up the comic book community?

My guess is the former. This pit could be serving as an entrance to a cave, a mass grave, that place in the desert where they hid all those copies of the E.T. Atari game, or anything like it. Nolan has not come outright and said there would be no Lazarus pit, but he is steering clear of any and all magical elements in his movies (and green goo that brings people back to life is really a stretch even for the most liberal of sci-fi).
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 09, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
I don't think he will, but it could be a pretty ballsy maneuver to do that.  And maybe in this movie, Bane's Venom could have it's origins in the Lazarus Pit.  If not, then good mislead.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TTYT on May 20, 2011, 10:32:17 AM
Bane is apparently related to Scorpius:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=77792

(http://i.imgur.com/KwXkpl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/KwXkp)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on May 20, 2011, 11:00:05 AM
Too bad it's not a luchador mask.

What's that in the background?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on May 20, 2011, 12:11:15 PM
He looks like Psycho Mantis.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on May 20, 2011, 12:25:26 PM
He looks like Psycho Mantis.

I see you like to play Batman: Arkham Asylum!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on May 20, 2011, 09:17:45 PM
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on May 22, 2011, 02:59:19 PM
Man, I have a hard time mustering enthusiasm for a movie with Bane and Anne Hathaway, but I also thought his Joker looked like crap when I saw the teasers, so I'm still keeping an open mind.

As long as she has as many nude scenes as she did in 'Love and Other Drugs'.  Woof!!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on May 23, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
Anyone think this film will suffer "the curse of the 3quels?" Meaning: most trilogies end on a 3rd film that ranges from simple letdown to totally craptastic.
So, do you think The Dark Knight Rises will be closer to Spider-Man 3 or The Return of the King? (or Karate Kid III, har har)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on May 24, 2011, 12:20:28 AM
At this point I'm really going to give Nolan the benefit of the doubt. The biggest mark against this film at the moment seems to be Ledger's untimely demise, and that's ultimately overcomable if you've got a talented guy behind the camera who really knows what he's doing. The biggest reason for third-movie letdowns are because they're rushed out and controlled more by the studios than by the people who made the previous two movies so good (and sometimes those people aren't around at all, and you get stuff like X-Men 3), and that really doesn't seem to be the case here.

Also, I'd like to put The Bourne Ultimatum in the (very tiny) list of great trilogy cappers.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on May 24, 2011, 12:43:23 AM
The one sign I can see that this might (I emphasize might) suffer from threequelitis is that there are so many new characters being introduced.  It has the challenge in front of it of spreading itself too thin.  Not sure if Nolan can balance things between Bane and Catwoman and a young version of Ras while still going into what's going on with the mob.  I liked the balance between Joker and Two Face in Dark Knight, but in both movies so far Scarecrow was kinda disappointing.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on May 24, 2011, 06:20:54 AM
The one sign I can see that this might (I emphasize might) suffer from threequelitis is that there are so many new characters being introduced.  It has the challenge in front of it of spreading itself too thin.  Not sure if Nolan can balance things between Bane and Catwoman and a young version of Ras while still going into what's going on with the mob.  I liked the balance between Joker and Two Face in Dark Knight, but in both movies so far Scarecrow was kinda disappointing.
Agreed. Nolan may be able to juggle many characters better than a lot directors, but it still may feel overly bloated. I still think the creation of Two Face should have been the end of The Dark Knight and he should have been a villain in the next movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on May 24, 2011, 10:41:56 AM
Well I liked the Return of the King so i am hoping this will be as good as The return of the King.  If anyone can do it Nolan can.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on May 24, 2011, 10:14:54 PM
The one sign I can see that this might (I emphasize might) suffer from threequelitis is that there are so many new characters being introduced.  It has the challenge in front of it of spreading itself too thin.  Not sure if Nolan can balance things between Bane and Catwoman and a young version of Ras while still going into what's going on with the mob.

Yeah, I've gotten a similar impression from all these new characters being thrown in (the "Inception cast reunion" if you will). Also, I've never found female characters to be Nolan's strongest point. I wonder if a female villain will be more or less bitchy than Rachel Dawes was.

I'd rather just see more Scarecrow.

Agreed. Nolan may be able to juggle many characters better than a lot directors, but it still may feel overly bloated. I still think the creation of Two Face should have been the end of The Dark Knight and he should have been a villain in the next movie.

TDK would probably have been better if the film ended on a "where's Harvey?" cliffhanger. (As in Harvey Dent, not Harvey the rabbit.)

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on May 25, 2011, 04:23:52 AM
As I've said many times, Nolan could announce the villians as The Bookworm and King Tut and Betty White playing Robin and I'd still be looking forward to it and have faith I'd enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Hebs on May 26, 2011, 05:21:53 AM
As I've said many times, Nolan could announce the villians as The Bookworm and King Tut and Betty White playing Robin and I'd still be looking forward to it and have faith I'd enjoy it.

This just in, new villain announced:

(http://thecheappop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/egghead.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 27, 2011, 09:47:36 AM
As I've said many times, Nolan could announce the villians as The Bookworm and King Tut and Betty White playing Robin and I'd still be looking forward to it and have faith I'd enjoy it.

This just in, new villain announced:

(http://thecheappop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/egghead.jpg)


Finally a role for Karl Rove.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on May 27, 2011, 09:55:44 AM
Finally a role for Karl Rove.

I think you mean Karl Roe!  Oh, I love egg jokes!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on May 27, 2011, 10:26:14 AM
He had an idea for one, but he wanted it to incubate a little longer.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on May 28, 2011, 08:38:27 AM
Egg puns?  You guys can all go to shell.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on May 28, 2011, 08:41:06 AM
Do I have to get out my mega slapper that can slap ten people at once to stop these puns?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on May 28, 2011, 02:25:47 PM
You can't slap that many people, stop eggsagerating.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on May 28, 2011, 02:28:56 PM
*slap**slap**slap**slap**slap**slap**slap**slap**slap**slap*
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on May 28, 2011, 04:25:58 PM
Slapping?  Really?  Shouldn't you be BEATING us?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 28, 2011, 05:15:34 PM
Hey, stop deviling Dr. Who.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on May 28, 2011, 05:46:27 PM
But its so easy to do.  You might say it's over-easy.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 28, 2011, 06:02:56 PM
I'm sorry to hear that.  You should take a few days off and go on hollandaise. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on May 28, 2011, 08:48:12 PM
http://www.avclub.com/articles/matthew-modine-is-the-nowobligatory-80s-actor-in-t,56492/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/matthew-modine-is-the-nowobligatory-80s-actor-in-t,56492/)

The casting is starting to get all scrambled.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on May 29, 2011, 05:40:10 AM
Okay that does it,where is my gun?!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CrowTeeRobot on May 29, 2011, 07:18:05 AM
Make sure you have enough shells for your gun.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggans on May 29, 2011, 09:58:23 AM
Guys, seriously. No good will come of egging him on.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on May 29, 2011, 11:07:13 AM
I can't come up with any more egg puns anyway.  I think my brain is fried.

 :rimshot:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 30, 2011, 05:14:04 PM
I can't come up with any more egg puns anyway.  I think my brain is fried.

 :rimshot:

I think he's saying the time to make puns is ova.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on May 30, 2011, 05:24:37 PM
I can't come up with any more egg puns anyway.  I think my brain is fried.

 :rimshot:

I think he's saying the time to make puns is ova.

That's good, i was starting to crack.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on May 30, 2011, 07:26:56 PM
I'm willing to bet that every single Batman related thread in this forum has devolved into egg puns.  You guys are beyond repoach.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Henry88 on May 30, 2011, 07:37:33 PM
EggHead would be proud

(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/2100000/Mr-Vincent-Egghead-vincent-price-2129000-394-493.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on May 30, 2011, 07:56:13 PM
I'm willing to bet that every single Batman related thread in this forum has devolved into egg puns.  You guys are beyond repoach.

I almost went with devovulated, but I figured it was too big of a huevos rancheros.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CrowTeeRobot on May 30, 2011, 07:59:31 PM
All right, that's enough guys, no more egg yolks.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Pak-Man on May 30, 2011, 08:52:07 PM
We'll all just have to shell out some self restraint.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on May 30, 2011, 09:48:26 PM
Hear hear!  I'd like to propose a french toast to that!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on May 31, 2011, 01:43:05 AM
We'll all just have to shell out some self restraint.

Not likely, the eggs will always be incubating somewhere.

In the meantime, let's get philosophical: how about some chicken puns?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on May 31, 2011, 01:44:53 AM
Perverting a game of egg puns with chickens?  Don't be so fowl.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CrowTeeRobot on June 01, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
Yeah, there's a pecking order to these things.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on June 03, 2011, 05:30:11 PM
A series of viral videos related to The Dark Knight rises can be found on this Youtube account.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheFireRises#p/u

I can't make sense of them, honestly. But lots of fun.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on June 03, 2011, 06:18:12 PM
Ugh. Advertising is bad enough; it's worse when they try to make it into a "game" that's "fun".  Fuck viral ads.

How is it worse?  Seems viral marketing is easier to ignore than traditional advertising, all you have to do is not engage in the "fun game" and move on with your life.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on June 03, 2011, 08:35:22 PM
It's the Huck Finn whitewashing scene in ad form.

I think you mean Tom Sawyer.  It's been awhile, but if I remember correctly, the point of that scene was that Tom got his friends to do all of his work for him by fooling them into thinking it was fun.  I don't see how it applies to viral marketing.  The studio (or whoever is responsible for the marketing of the movie) does the work.  We just have to figure out what it means.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 03, 2011, 09:39:05 PM
Tom got his friends to do all of his work for him by fooling them into thinking it was fun. 

Warner Brothers gets their consumers do to their promoting for them by fooling them into thinking it's a game.

Btw, I don't think anyone's commented on Matthew Modine's addition to the cast. Or, as AV Club puts it, "Matthew Modine is the now-obligatory '80s actor in The Dark Knight Rises." http://www.avclub.com/articles/matthew-modine-is-the-nowobligatory-80s-actor-in-t,56492/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/matthew-modine-is-the-nowobligatory-80s-actor-in-t,56492/)
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In keeping with Christopher Nolan’s charitable aims of providing ’80s actors with late-career blockbusters, Matthew Modine has been added to the cast of The Dark Knight Rises, joining an esteemed ensemble of guys like Rutger Hauer, Eric Roberts, Anthony Michael Hall, and Tom Berenger who have all appeared in Nolan films in supporting roles. And of course, Modine’s Full Metal Jacket character gave Variety the opportunity to use the “Joker in Dark Knight Rises” gag already, leaving only useless scraps like Gross Anatomy or Married To The Mob to play with, unfortunately for you.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on June 03, 2011, 10:07:02 PM
Tom got his friends to do all of his work for him by fooling them into thinking it was fun. 

Warner Brothers gets their consumers do to their promoting for them by fooling them into thinking it's a game.


But they are games...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 03, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
Tom got his friends to do all of his work for him by fooling them into thinking it was fun. 

Warner Brothers gets their consumers do to their promoting for them by fooling them into thinking it's a game.


But they are games...

Are you calling me Hitler?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on June 04, 2011, 05:30:24 AM
It's the Huck Finn whitewashing scene in ad form.


But like the Twain analogy, it only works if you are a sucker. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on June 04, 2011, 07:24:26 AM
Im is always trying to ruin our fun.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Invader_quirk on June 04, 2011, 10:15:04 AM
Im is always trying to ruin our fun.

He's got some dark back story about fun killing his father or something that won't be revealed until the third act.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on June 04, 2011, 11:07:12 AM
After seeing Katonic's favorite music videos, I'm more worried about his back story.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 06, 2011, 03:41:50 PM
It's the Huck Finn whitewashing scene in ad form.

I think you mean Tom Sawyer.  It's been awhile, but if I remember correctly, the point of that scene was that Tom got his friends to do all of his work for him by fooling them into thinking it was fun.  I don't see how it applies to viral marketing.  The studio (or whoever is responsible for the marketing of the movie) does the work.  We just have to figure out what it means.

I assume that's what he meant, unless he's talking about the abridged Huck Finn that whitewashes history, but I don't think abridged books include scenes of the characters editing the books that they are featured in.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 06, 2011, 05:58:48 PM
I don't think abridged books include scenes of the characters editing the books that they are featured in.

Unless Charlie Kaufman starts writing novels.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on June 07, 2011, 04:21:49 AM
They're casting for extras age 18+ in Pittsburgh!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 07, 2011, 08:46:45 PM
I'm going to be so pissed if Catwoman shows up in a skintight outfit and a whip. In fact, if she is meant to exude
any sort of sexuality at all I'm going to be very disappointed, mainly because that seems very out of place and
inappropriate in this particular series.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 07, 2011, 10:53:45 PM
I'm going to be so pissed if Catwoman shows up in a skintight outfit and a whip. In fact, if she is meant to exude
any sort of sexuality at all I'm going to be very disappointed, mainly because that seems very out of place and
inappropriate in this particular series.

Would you prefer Maggie Smith, the headmistress of Hogwarts? As Mike Nelson observed: "Mentally undressing her is hard work."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 07, 2011, 11:15:11 PM
Would you prefer Maggie Smith, the headmistress of Hogwarts? As Mike Nelson observed: "Mentally undressing her is hard work."
A woman can be sexy yet keep her sexiness fairly low-key. I hate to reinforce the earlier post
but Anne Hathaway can be sexy without making it overt and in your face. That's probably why
she was chosen. The sexuality should be incredibly subtle in my opinion. I mean you could
see some very sexy women hanging around Wayne Manor and Wayne Tower in low cut outfits
but none of those women were the main focus of the film, and that's part of what lent Batman
Begins and The Dark Knight such credibility as superhero films(at least for myself anyway),
they didn't rely at all on sexuality to sell the product.

Usually, part and parcel of the comic book movie is outright portraying the femme fatale or main
female character as either a helpless bimbo(A la Mary Jane) or overtly sexualized to an
uncomfortable degree(Halle Berry as Catwoman,as the best, or WORST example depending on your
POV).

Before any of you women out there start accusing me of being sexist, I'm not. Yes, I'm not a
feminist really, but I believe in equal opportunity exploitation. If they can do it to women they should
do it to men as well. (Obviously, it's only fair right?)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 07, 2011, 11:36:19 PM
Would you prefer Maggie Smith, the headmistress of Hogwarts? As Mike Nelson observed: "Mentally undressing her is hard work."
A woman can be sexy yet keep her sexiness fairly low-key. I hate to reinforce the earlier post
but Anne Hathaway can be sexy without making it overt and in your face. That's probably why
she was chosen. The sexuality should be incredibly subtle in my opinion. I mean you could
see some very sexy women hanging around Wayne Manor and Wayne Tower in low cut outfits
but none of those women were the main focus of the film, and that's part of what lent Batman
Begins and The Dark Knight such credibility as superhero films(at least for myself anyway),
they didn't rely at all on sexuality to sell the product.

Usually, part and parcel of the comic book movie is outright portraying the femme fatale or main
female character as either a helpless bimbo(A la Mary Jane) or overtly sexualized to an
uncomfortable degree(Halle Berry as Catwoman,as the best, or WORST example depending on your
POV). 

I was just being an ass regarding Maggie Smith. I see your point.

The main thing I'm curious about is whether or not this will suffer from 3quelitis. We started discussing this a few pages back before the thread was hijacked by egg puns. I want to repost RoninFox's post as I think it brings up a good point & best summarizes what I mean by "Threequelitis":

The one sign I can see that this might (I emphasize might) suffer from threequelitis is that there are so many new characters being introduced.  It has the challenge in front of it of spreading itself too thin.  Not sure if Nolan can balance things between Bane and Catwoman and a young version of Ras while still going into what's going on with the mob. 

Do you have any thoughts on this, Gunflyer?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on June 08, 2011, 12:33:00 AM
There's only 3 new characters who will probably have big roles (Bane, Selina and whoever JGL plays), there were 3 last time (Joker, Falcone and Dent)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on June 08, 2011, 12:59:43 AM
Hat and a new take on Ras, either flashback or ressurected. Not a new character, but something that's going to likely take a lot of screen time to get through and explain to a partly casual audience.

Not going to say he can't do it. Dark Knight proved Nolan can spin a lot of plates. These at the kind of challenge that other directors have slipped up on though. I have confidence in this and I'm sure as hell going to be in the theater when it comes out. I'm just not going to stand here and say for sure it's going to be incredible because it'll be better if my expectations aren't for a life changing experience.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 08, 2011, 01:28:31 AM
There's only 3 new characters who will probably have big roles (Bane, Selina and whoever JGL plays), there were 3 last time (Joker, Falcone and Dent)

What about  Matthew Modine (http://www.avclub.com/articles/matthew-modine-is-the-nowobligatory-80s-actor-in-t,56492/)?
(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/56492/05_300dpi_jpg_627x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on June 08, 2011, 02:16:27 AM
Yeah, he's in it but there's nothing pointing to his role being bigger than Mayor Batmanuel in Dark Knight.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on June 08, 2011, 09:19:42 AM
Yeah, he's in it but there's nothing pointing to his role being bigger than Mayor Batmanuel in Dark Knight.

Ah, if only Nestor Carbonell had been allowed to perform that role in character as Batmanuel.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on June 08, 2011, 10:58:16 AM
JGL plays a cop, by the way. And then there's also (speaking of sexy...) Marion Cotillard, who's playing an executive something something for Wayne Enterprises.

I don't think either of their roles are very big.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 08, 2011, 11:43:54 AM
Do you have any thoughts on this, Gunflyer?
Well, if anybody is up to the challenge, it's Nolan. Though, I do see the challenge. I don't
think I can remember any 3rd installment in a movie series that was really any good.
I mean obvious examples being Spiderman 3, X-men 3, American Pie 3, Scary movie
3, Pirates 3, Revenge of the sith....lol.

Anyway, Yeah DKR has a LOT to live up to in terms of characterizations. I think it will be
quite easy for the movie to go too far in one direction that could easily derail the carefully
constructed narrative we saw in both TDK and BB.
 
That also being said, portraying both Bane and Catwoman as realistic villains is going
to be a massive challenge in terms of making them look more than your stock comic
book villains who laugh insanely at the tops of their voices and possess more muscles
than Arnie in his prime. If it sounds like i'm being ambiguous, yes, I am. Chris Nolan has
to the best of my knowledge never made a bad movie, but I am not sure even he can
surpass these obstacles to the best of his abilities.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on June 08, 2011, 01:44:42 PM

That also being said, portraying both Bane and Catwoman as realistic villains is going
to be a massive challenge in terms of making them look more than your stock comic
book villains who laugh insanely at the tops of their voices and possess more muscles
than Arnie in his prime. If it sounds like i'm being ambiguous, yes, I am. Chris Nolan has
to the best of my knowledge never made a bad movie, but I am not sure even he can
surpass these obstacles to the best of his abilities.

I don' t think that Catwoman is difficult to play well, despite the fact that she almost never has been.  I mean, if Nolan can pull off Two-
Face and Joker, he can pull off an acrobatic cat burglar.

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 08, 2011, 03:20:09 PM
I don' t think that Catwoman is difficult to play well, despite the fact that she almost never has been.  I mean, if Nolan can pull off Two-
Face and Joker, he can pull off an acrobatic cat burglar.
See my problem is a Cat Burglar isn't nearly as exciting to deal with as a psycho murderer.
Nolan needs to give Bane and Catwoman similar dimensions to the ones given to Ra's Al
Ghul and the Joker.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on June 08, 2011, 03:46:06 PM
I don' t think that Catwoman is difficult to play well, despite the fact that she almost never has been.  I mean, if Nolan can pull off Two-
Face and Joker, he can pull off an acrobatic cat burglar.
See my problem is a Cat Burglar isn't nearly as exciting to deal with as a psycho murderer.
Nolan needs to give Bane and Catwoman similar dimensions to the ones given to Ra's A
Ghul and the Joker.

A character doesn't need to be exciting to be interesting. Catwoman is a renegade with her own set of morals - which can be a very vague description of the Joker, as well. What's interesting about the Batman and Joker dynamic is how the two characters play off each other, how their differing ideologies clash and drive the conflict in the story. Batman and Catwoman will most likely have the same conflict - she doesn't have to blow up a boat or a police station or a hospital or a girlfriend to be an exciting character.

And Bane is more than any common thug - he's smart, he's ambitious, he gets shit done. I don't see how he could end up as a one-dimensional cackling supervillain, unless he kidnaps the President or tries to steal the world's supply of Hostess Fruit Pies. It's not a massive challenge to avoid such cliches.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 08, 2011, 07:59:58 PM
I don' t think that Catwoman is difficult to play well, despite the fact that she almost never has been.  I mean, if Nolan can pull off Two-
Face and Joker, he can pull off an acrobatic cat burglar.
See my problem is a Cat Burglar isn't nearly as exciting to deal with as a psycho murderer.
Nolan needs to give Bane and Catwoman similar dimensions to the ones given to Ra's A
Ghul and the Joker.

A character doesn't need to be exciting to be interesting. Catwoman is a renegade with her own set of morals - which can be a very vague description of the Joker, as well. What's interesting about the Batman and Joker dynamic is how the two characters play off each other, how their differing ideologies clash and drive the conflict in the story. Batman and Catwoman will most likely have the same conflict - she doesn't have to blow up a boat or a police station or a hospital or a girlfriend to be an exciting character.

And Bane is more than any common thug - he's smart, he's ambitious, he gets shit done. I don't see how he could end up as a one-dimensional cackling supervillain, unless he kidnaps the President or tries to steal the world's supply of Hostess Fruit Pies. It's not a massive challenge to avoid such cliches.
I think maybe it could work if it's played right. Catwoman and Batman don't necessarily need to be enemies. In fact, this
could be the time where Batman actually sympathizes with her because... maybe she doesn't burgle so much out of
want but out of necessity... a place where he himself has been before. That could be an interesting dynamic...

As for Bane... I don't know much of him other than he is the man who "broke the Batman". He may have some
potential to be a better villain than the joker.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on June 09, 2011, 10:49:24 AM
I think Catwoman could work as sort of a female Robin Hood type character.  Like, she only steals from people who have gotten their money from less-than-honest means anyway and gives the money to people who she thinks need it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on June 09, 2011, 11:02:15 AM
(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/56492/05_300dpi_jpg_627x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)
Whenever Mathew Modine comes up my wife and I always talk about how he never ages.  We won't be having that discussion anymore.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Bob on June 09, 2011, 11:22:04 AM
(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/56492/05_300dpi_jpg_627x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)
Whenever Mathew Modine comes up my wife and I always talk about how he never ages.  We won't be having that discussion anymore.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.....
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on June 09, 2011, 12:00:43 PM
I think Catwoman could work as sort of a female Robin Hood type character.  Like, she only steals from people who have gotten their money from less-than-honest means anyway and gives the money to people who she thinks need it.

And everybody who needs it happens to be herself.

Hmm... if they play her like YoSaffBridge from Firefly, I'll be truly ecstatic. That's an example of an interesting thief character - someone we do not know the true motivations behind.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 09, 2011, 12:36:03 PM
(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/56492/05_300dpi_jpg_627x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)
Whenever Mathew Modine comes up my wife and I always talk about how he never ages.  We won't be having that discussion anymore.

"Viene Kiraa!!!"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 09, 2011, 04:06:58 PM
I think Catwoman could work as sort of a female Robin Hood type character.  Like, she only steals from people who have gotten their money from less-than-honest means anyway and gives the money to people who she thinks need it.
Exactly, Batman might leave her alone when he sees the obvious parallels between himself
and her. I actually think this could be an interesting story, where although she's a criminal she
becomes Batman's/Bruce Wayne's love interest... but I am so uncreative right now I'm not sure
any other way it could go but for her to also die, driving Batman's cause even further.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 09, 2011, 05:08:42 PM
(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/56492/05_300dpi_jpg_627x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)
Whenever Mathew Modine comes up my wife and I always talk about how he never ages.  We won't be having that discussion anymore.

Did you ever that discussion about Tom Berenger, Eric Roberts or Rutger Hauer? (Because, you know, Nolan has a thing for aging former leading men.)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on June 10, 2011, 07:22:03 AM
I think Catwoman could work as sort of a female Robin Hood type character.  Like, she only steals from people who have gotten their money from less-than-honest means anyway and gives the money to people who she thinks need it.
Exactly, Batman might leave her alone when he sees the obvious parallels between himself
and her. I actually think this could be an interesting story, where although she's a criminal she
becomes Batman's/Bruce Wayne's love interest... but I am so uncreative right now I'm not sure
any other way it could go but for her to also die, driving Batman's cause even further.

Actually I was just thinking about this...  it woudl be cool to see her evolve in her outlaw/ borderline hero role just as we saw Batman in Batman Begins.  SEe her get hurt a few times and realize she needs some martial arts classes and training, see how her costume is practical in that loose clothes get caught or torn, the mask and cat persona helps hide her real ID etc.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 10, 2011, 05:19:13 PM
Actually I was just thinking about this...  it woudl be cool to see her evolve in her outlaw/ borderline hero role just as we saw Batman in Batman Begins.  SEe her get hurt a few times and realize she needs some martial arts classes and training, see how her costume is practical in that loose clothes get caught or torn, the mask and cat persona helps hide her real ID etc.
I can see that. Catwoman starting off as a hero in sort of the same vein as Batman then she sort of
de-evolves over time because she can't see any other way of doing things. I think it's easy for a character
to give up on trying to save the world when they're in too much pain to do so...the impetus for this needs
to be beyond compelling though.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on June 10, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
Here's an interesting bit of news:

http://www.movieweb.com/news/anne-hathaway-ruins-catwoman-costume-during-fight-on-the-dark-knight-rises

Well, not quite as interesting as, say, a leaked video of Bane and Batman sharing a malt at the malt shop, but it can lead to some unnecessary speculation. Hathaway gave a stuntman a black eye by hitting him with a prop gun - so Catwoman wields a gun? Also, she keeps tearing her costume - described as skintight latex. So, she has some very intense fight scenes (awesome), probably uses a gun (it would reveal a lot about her character, seeing how Batman and the Batman universe treats people who use guns), and is wearing the costume everybody expects Catwoman to wear.

Also! Matthew Modine's character is apparently named Nixon, if this viral image is to be believed.

(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width/hash/c0/bd/c0bdb34543c345d7a4c0215b818062b0.jpg)

What's most interesting about this, is that through some research, there was a character named Nixon who appeared in the Batman universe.

http://www.comicvine.com/nixon-two-bear/29-11387/

His name was Nixon Two-Bear. He was a former henchman of Two-Face, and eventually began working for Harley Quinn (this was detailed in Harley Quinn's solo line of comics).

That's nothing if not suspect. Could Harley Quinn be making an appearance?  :o

There's really nothing to suggest that. Nixon could just be another character with an unfortunate name (IMDB lists "Nixon" as his character name, though that could still be inaccurate). And, the problem with viral marketing is... all of it could be 100% fake. Though it still generates plenty of buzz.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on June 10, 2011, 10:14:49 PM
Interesting info. Can't really assume what Catwoman's gun stance is though. If she's hitting someone with it instead of shooting it there's a good chance it's a disarming act. Snatch the gun from a guys hand, knock him out quick, toss the gun aside.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on June 10, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on June 11, 2011, 09:29:08 AM
I guess Nixon's the one, then.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 11, 2011, 06:08:25 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.
Now THAT would be something to see.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on June 11, 2011, 06:25:28 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.

That seems... implausible.

I just can't wrap my head around that.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 11, 2011, 06:36:55 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.
That seems... implausible.
I just can't wrap my head around that.
I could see it working but it would have to be handled very, very carefully.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 11, 2011, 06:54:01 PM
I guess Nixon's the one, then.

I wonder if they'll cleverly throw in the line "I am not a crook."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 11, 2011, 07:47:37 PM
As long as the head villain isn't a bad guy called Bob the Goonie. And yes, the only reason
I even bring him up is because of RoninFox's Avatar.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on June 11, 2011, 09:23:16 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.

That seems... implausible.

I just can't wrap my head around that.
That would change her character too drasticly, though. She is a thief primarily, whatever her reasons for it may be, I don't see her getting the city behind her like they did Batman.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on June 11, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
Since the end of Dark Knight seemed to suggest the police/public would be against Batman, maybe Catwomen has replaced him in their minds as the saviour of Gotham.
That seems... implausible.
I just can't wrap my head around that.
I could see it working but it would have to be handled very, very carefully.

Even if it "works" and titanic effort is put in to make it "fit" within the movie's mythos, it just seems like way too much to swallow - it's too big to be believable. You might as well make Catwoman run for President - sure, you could certainly justify it, and I could suspend my disbelief to allow it, but it would always nag at the back of my mind that it just isn't sane, that it is all literally an act.

That would change her character too drasticly, though. She is a thief primarily, whatever her reasons for it may be, I don't see her getting the city behind her like they did Batman.

Though, upon further reflection - she could be seen as an icon and hero of Gotham without changing her character, if she is portrayed as an outlaw/folk hero ala Wild Bill Hickok, Jesse James, Banksy... not someone you would ever hand the key to the city, but someone you can say you admire to make yourself seem interesting to the opposite sex.

She couldn't be in it for the people of Gotham, but they rally around her anyways - at least when it's popular to do so. She could never be the "hero that Gotham deserves", but maybe she's a hero nonetheless. Maybe (hopefully) Harvey Dent's final criminal acts are revealed to the public, and they begin to doubt those that guard them at night - so they turn to someone who subverts the corrupt and ridiculous government.

She's not a savior, not like Batman so she certainly doesn't "replace" him, she's just an interesting character with attractive ideals in a moment of crisis.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on June 12, 2011, 12:26:28 PM
Yes the old "outlaw with a heart of gold" character that is usually portrayed by men.  Could work well.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on June 13, 2011, 02:36:56 PM
There were a shit ton of people trying out to be extras in Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on June 13, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
There were a shit ton of people trying out to be extras in Pittsburgh.
I wonder how many of them were extras in George Romero's classic zombie films. I was told by a Pittsburgh native that it was once pretty much tradition to be an extra in a George Romero movie. TDKR is probably filling a void for extras stranded by Romero's relocation to Canada.

Are the Chicago natives upset about Nolan shifting to Pittsburgh? I remember Roger Ebert expressing city pride about The Dark Knight being filmed there. I remember some critic said Gotham was a stand-in for NYC, and he was like "No no! Chicago is Gotham City! Suck on it!" (Not those exact words, but the same attitude)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on June 14, 2011, 09:35:44 PM
I feel like many of the people who tried out are just people who never tried out for the Romero movies, but who knows.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on June 17, 2011, 07:31:20 AM
There were a shit ton of people trying out to be extras in Pittsburgh.
I wonder how many of them were extras in George Romero's classic zombie films. I was told by a Pittsburgh native that it was once pretty much tradition to be an extra in a George Romero movie. TDKR is probably filling a void for extras stranded by Romero's relocation to Canada.

Are the Chicago natives upset about Nolan shifting to Pittsburgh? I remember Roger Ebert expressing city pride about The Dark Knight being filmed there. I remember some critic said Gotham was a stand-in for NYC, and he was like "No no! Chicago is Gotham City! Suck on it!" (Not those exact words, but the same attitude)

It's funny, a friend and I argued once about that.  Clearly Metropolis is a stand-in for New York.  He argued that Detroit was the Gotham equivalent, I argued Chicago.  I can see either I guess but as time goes on, I think that Gotham and Metropolis just represent the flip sides of New York City.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Raefire on July 11, 2011, 11:17:45 PM
Well, damn:

(http://i.imgur.com/BLq6nl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/BLq6n)

And rumours that a teaser might appear with HP7Pt2 next week: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/is-a-sneak-peek-of-the-dark-knight-rises-just-around-the-corner-
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 11, 2011, 11:39:11 PM
That's an EPIC goddamn poster. The third chapter in any series seems to always be the hardest...
and that's our only worry.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 11, 2011, 11:49:50 PM
That's an EPIC goddamn poster. The third chapter in any series seems to always be the hardest...
and that's our only worry.

Worries aside, is it next summer yet?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 12, 2011, 12:33:52 AM
Worries aside, is it next summer yet?
I would like to say yes, but the calendar says otherwise.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on July 12, 2011, 05:36:35 PM
Now, how to spin that into a Riff-poster...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on July 12, 2011, 08:03:58 PM

And rumours that a teaser might appear with HP7Pt2 next week: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/is-a-sneak-peek-of-the-dark-knight-rises-just-around-the-corner-

Just learned this afternoon: No longer a rumor.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 13, 2011, 04:32:40 PM
Well, damn:

(http://i.imgur.com/BLq6nl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/BLq6n)

And I thought Wayne Enterprises was going to be looking out for Gotham's infrastructure.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 17, 2011, 01:19:46 PM
Did they really have to have Commissioner Gordon

 
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

hope it isn't that way for the whole film.

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Variety of Cells on July 17, 2011, 08:01:59 PM
Felt that trailer was a little early.  Do they really need to start building hype?  They obviously haven't really shot anything, and it's not going to be released for quite a while.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 17, 2011, 10:25:21 PM
They have been shooting since May. Year long hype for this kind of movie is pretty much the norm.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: iv3rdawG on July 18, 2011, 09:54:22 AM
Trailer is online in HD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quLIqdtt_J8
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on July 19, 2011, 01:01:25 PM
At first I thought it was Hans Gruber in a hospital bed.  Man, that's gonna be good stuff.  Curious as to wear it's going to go.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 21, 2011, 05:04:58 PM
Chris Nolan... the man is a genius. I might have had some doubts at first about this
third installment in the series, but maybe I'm changing my mind. The question they
answer for themselves upon writing is what they really want the villain to do and
represent. Dammit, I look forward to seeing Ra's Al Ghul and the League of Shadows
again. Maybe that's the key? maybe it's the inmates of Arkham against the League
of Shadows? That would be a hell of a fight scene.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on July 22, 2011, 03:23:34 PM
They're filming a scene at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh in August. I might try out to be an extra.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on July 23, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
They're filming a scene at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh in August. I might try out to be an extra.

Wow. That means you could be riffed! What if you're onscreen for a few seconds (in a U2 shirt)? MKB: "Little known fact: all residents of Arkham Asylum are huge U2 fans." "I hear Scarecrow does a magnificent spoken-word rendition of 'Lemon.'"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on July 25, 2011, 11:39:14 AM
They're filming a scene at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh in August. I might try out to be an extra.

Wow. That means you could be riffed! What if you're onscreen for a few seconds (in a U2 shirt)? MKB: "Little known fact: all residents of Arkham Asylum are huge U2 fans." "I hear Scarecrow does a magnificent spoken-word rendition of 'Lemon.'"

:D :D :D Now I have to do this!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on August 05, 2011, 06:50:21 AM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6122/6011388126_0c55cbb369_b.jpg)

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on August 05, 2011, 08:45:42 AM
I almost wrote 'start dismissing this movie despite how amazing the last two were based on this photo.... now!' underneath the link but I felt I was underestimating people, should have known better I guess
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 05, 2011, 10:05:00 AM
If she were the Catwoman from the comics, her boobs would have prevented her from leaning forward far enough on that bike to drive it.

I don't know, this picture doesn't convince me that Catwoman is a good idea in these movies. I just hope they don't end up crippling Batman's abilities to make her seem credible as a threat. I mean, she stole the Batcycle from the GODDAMN BATMAN?!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on August 05, 2011, 10:17:09 AM
That's one possibility.  Not knowing anything about the plot, we don't know why she has the batcycle or if it even is THE batcycle.  It could well be that Batman loans it to her so she can help him stop the bad guys, like how he let Gordon drive the Batmobile in Batman Begins.  This would fit in if my "Catwoman as a Thief With A Heart Of Gold" theory pans out.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Bob on August 05, 2011, 12:16:26 PM
I like how you go from Zero to Condescending in less than 60 seconds.


That was Nic Cage's best movie.....
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Bob on August 05, 2011, 12:37:03 PM
It's impossible for Nic Cage to have a 'best' movie.

I take it you've not seen "Bad Liuetent 2" then........

Oh, you probably did.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 05, 2011, 12:45:37 PM
I hate Anne Hathaway. She's horrid. She ruins things that she's in.  That said, I'll give Nolan the benefit of the doubt; I hated the Ledger Joker when I first saw the costume, and that turned out fine.  I just really fucking hate Hathaway.

I'd like to think Nolan wouldn't let anyone fuck up his movie. Although, I'm not a fan of Katie Holmes, and Maggie Gyllenhaal bugs me a little bit. He's made some odd choices for female characters. Ellen Page struck me as sort of an odd choice for Inception, too.

Carrie-Anne Moss was a good pick for Memento and Marion Cotillard was the perfect choice for Inception.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 05, 2011, 01:00:06 PM
It's impossible for Nic Cage to have a 'best' movie.

Zero to Mildly Disinterested in Less than 60 Seconds had its moments.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mrbasehart on August 05, 2011, 04:07:33 PM
Not thrilled about the mask, but I want to see more from the film than just a photo before I start to worry.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on August 05, 2011, 07:36:32 PM
It's impossible for Nic Cage to have a 'best' movie.

Raising Arizona
Vampire's Kiss
Wild at Heart
Red Rock West

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on August 05, 2011, 08:56:23 PM
That fire alarm really ruins the composition. It's bugging the hell out of me.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on August 05, 2011, 08:58:34 PM
I hate Anne Hathaway. She's horrid. She ruins things that she's in.  That said, I'll give Nolan the benefit of the doubt; I hated the Ledger Joker when I first saw the costume, and that turned out fine.  I just really fucking hate Hathaway.

I had to look up her credits to see if I have ever seen a movie with her and I hadn't. How many of her movies have you watched that she ruined for you?? Princess Diaries would have been a good movie without her??   


I am just hoping that Bane is so badass that it doesn't matter how much the other characters suck.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 05, 2011, 09:23:20 PM
That fire alarm really ruins the composition. It's bugging the hell out of me.

(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1809/unled1wz.jpg)

Im, I'd shop out Hathaway for another actress, but that would take forever.   ;D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 06, 2011, 01:21:31 AM
It's impossible for Nic Cage to have a 'best' movie.

Raising Arizona
Vampire's Kiss
Wild at Heart
Red Rock West

Vampire's Kiss and Red Rock West are two wildly underappreciated films. Especially considering Oliver Stone ripped off the latter for his piece of crap U-Turn.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Bob on August 06, 2011, 06:26:16 AM

I hate Anne Hathaway. She's horrid. She ruins things that she's in.  That said, I'll give Nolan the benefit of the doubt; I hated the Ledger Joker when I first saw the costume, and that turned out fine.  I just really fucking hate Hathaway.

Well, the only way I can weigh in fairly on this would be for Anne and I to go to the Bahamas for a long weekend and see if she bothers me or not.   I am willing to make this sacrifice for the group.

(http://www.dailymakeover.com/appImages/galleryImages/Celebrity_Hairstyles/Anne_Hathaway%2B2004.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Bob on August 06, 2011, 07:28:41 AM
Hey, if you find the wide-mouth long-nosed idiot bitch thing attractive, go for it.

I draw no conclusions without solid field research.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 06, 2011, 08:08:17 AM
Hey, if you find the wide-mouth long-nosed idiot bitch thing attractive, go for it.
She's cute! But the thing is this Batman series should NOT be banking on the attractiveness
or sex appeal of this actress.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on August 06, 2011, 10:09:10 AM
Hey, if you find the wide-mouth long-nosed idiot bitch thing attractive, go for it.

Are you sure you're not confusing Anne Hathaway with Sarah Jessica Parker?  Cause then I'd empathize with you.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 06, 2011, 01:05:09 PM
Hey, if you find the wide-mouth long-nosed idiot bitch thing attractive, go for it.
She's cute! But the thing is this Batman series should NOT be banking on the attractiveness
or sex appeal of this actress.
Agreed! And in this picture from the set:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/06/article-0-0D511D1400000578-74_468x674.jpg)
she looks like a stiff breeze would knock her over.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on August 06, 2011, 01:26:38 PM
Ooh, I think I know why the Dark Knight is Rising!   :o
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on August 06, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
Hey, if you find the wide-mouth long-nosed idiot bitch thing attractive, go for it.
She's cute! But the thing is this Batman series should NOT be banking on the attractiveness
or sex appeal of this actress.
Agreed! And in this picture from the set:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/06/article-0-0D511D1400000578-74_468x674.jpg)
she looks like a stiff breeze would knock her over.

I'd knock her over with something stiff.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on August 06, 2011, 01:53:29 PM
Have you guys just not seen what pretty girls look like?

Dude, I work with a guy who wants to find naked pictures of Snooki, no matter how much I try and make him see that she's an ugly annoying troll.

Attractiveness is a subjective thing. Anne isn't your type, we get it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on August 06, 2011, 01:53:43 PM
They're filming at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh today!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 06, 2011, 02:11:48 PM
Dude, I work with a guy who wants to find naked pictures of Snooki, no matter how much I try and make him see that she's an ugly annoying troll.

Hmm, now I'm half tempted to try and Photoshop Snooki onto the bat cycle.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 06, 2011, 03:00:48 PM
This reminds me of how fans reacted with Matt Smith was cast as The Doctor,now most of those fans rank him min their top three or five doctors.  Why not wait for the movie to finish shooting before calling for her and Nolan to be strung up from the nearest lamppost.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 06, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
This reminds me of how fans reacted with Matt Smith was cast as The Doctor,now most of those fans rank him min their top three or five doctors.  Why not wait for the movie to finish shooting before calling for her and Nolan to be strung up from the nearest lamppost.

Show me where someone said to do that.

You're temper is really out of control over this,maybe you should just pretend this movie doesn't exist before you give yourself a stroke.

You are launching into person attacks not only on the actress(who you have not even seen on film in the role yet and you don't know a thing about the script)but also on anyone who say "wait and see" or that she is not ugly.  You're anger really is out of control,I think you really should take a break from this thread and maybe just avoid the movie full stop since it upsets you so much.

I can't stand Two and a Half men or CSI but you don't see me spending every second of my life attacking the stars of those shows and the shows fans.  live and let live.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 06, 2011, 03:58:52 PM
This reminds me of how fans reacted with Matt Smith was cast as The Doctor,now most of those fans rank him min their top three or five doctors.  Why not wait for the movie to finish shooting before calling for her and Nolan to be strung up from the nearest lamppost.

Show me where someone said to do that.

You're temper is really out of control over this,maybe you should just pretend this movie doesn't exist before you give yourself a stroke.

Straw Man Argument (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)

"A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position."

Please don't make me quote your personal attacks on this actress and other forum members.  If you are not angry then that just means you are launching personal attacks for the fun of it and that is called trolling.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 06, 2011, 04:10:10 PM
You did not call for them them be strung up with those exact words I was using something you should look up,it's called a figure of speech to give a general feeling of your post with out having to quote them.  Can you claim that you have never in your life used a figure of speech?

Here are some quotes from you and I would like you to explain how this are not angry personal attacks.

Quote
Hey, if you find the wide-mouth long-nosed idiot bitch thing attractive, go for it.

Quote
Have you guys just not seen what pretty girls look like?

Those are both not only an attack on her but on other forum members.

Quote
Hopefully at some point she slams it into a concrete wall at 90 MPH, and we see her broken body afterwards.

There you did not call for her to be strung up but you did call for the actress to be murdered by the film makers.  Since you have set the standard by attacking me for using a figure of speech I can only assume you really meant this and you really want to see her murdered on screen.

If you are calling for people to be murdered over a movie you need to take a step back and take a break.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 06, 2011, 07:46:33 PM
Those weren't personal attacks, and that wasn't a suggestion I emailed to the producers.

Doc, you're a moron.  (See how I used the correct version of "you're"?)

And yes, that's a personal attack.
So calling for someone's murder is only bad if it is done in the form of email,but if it is done on a forum it is okay?  Interesting.  I sure hope you do not have any guns.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 06, 2011, 08:04:22 PM
Those weren't personal attacks, and that wasn't a suggestion I emailed to the producers.

Doc, you're a moron.  (See how I used the correct version of "you're"?)

And yes, that's a personal attack.
So calling for someone's murder is only bad if it is done in the form of email,but if it is done on a forum it is okay?  Interesting.  I sure hope you do not have any guns.

This is coming from the guy who has called for entire segments of society to be shot.

Just because you're in one of your more rational phases right now doesn't change all the hyperbolic nonsense you've spouted in the past.

Seriously, you have zero credibility.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 06, 2011, 08:13:35 PM
I've seen The Dark Knight bring the worst out of people. I thought it was isolated to IMDB messageboards, but apparently not.

Meanwhile, Ms. Hathaway's going about her normal business, and this bickering doesn't have the slightest impact on her life.

Guys... Why so serious?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 06, 2011, 08:26:58 PM
It's OK, DB.  Doc has little to know reading and/or processing ability anyway if he thinks third person statements about other people constitute second-person personal attacks, and can't tell the difference between suggesting that a character an actress plays in a movie meet a grisly end and actually proposing murder.

I don't really know how what passes for a brain in his little head works, but I suspect there are serious, serious processing issues that he probably needs to have fixed.

Oh you made a mistake with your spelling.  The word you want is No not know.  By your logic you must has a tinny brain that doesn't work right and needs to be fixed too.  What a small world it is.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 06, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
That assumes you had a point besides attacking other people for things you yourself do all the time just to make yourself feel big.

Oh and here is a little point of logic for you to think about.  Do you want to see Catwoman's dead body on screen because you hate the character no matter who is playing her or do you want to see her dead on screen because of the actress playing her? If it is the later then it is really the actress you want to see die and the character has nothing to do with it. So you were expressing your wish to see the real actress dead.  Doesn't mater if you admit it or not,it's simple logic and I have no wish to exchange any more words with a rude,murderess bully who attacks other people so he can feel better about himself.

Man I wish this forum had an ignore button.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 06, 2011, 09:05:44 PM
Man I wish this forum had an ignore button.

 :D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on August 06, 2011, 09:18:47 PM
For me, Catwoman is and always will be Michelle Pfeiffer.  Mee-yowza!  But I have to say I wouldn't kick Anne Hathaway out of bed for eating crackers either.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on August 06, 2011, 09:31:03 PM
(http://www.stuffwelike.com/stuffwelike/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Batman-cry.jpg)

Pointless Internet arguments make Batman cry. (Also, dead parents.)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on August 06, 2011, 10:03:50 PM
(http://www.stuffwelike.com/stuffwelike/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Batman-cry.jpg)

Pointless Internet arguments make Batman cry. (Also, dead parents.)


Is that Napoleon Dynamite under there?

"I got skills.  Batarang skills...  Batmobile skills...  Gliding skills..."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on August 07, 2011, 04:33:46 AM
Crazy vs. Crazy, the winner is everyone else!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Variety of Cells on August 07, 2011, 10:28:54 AM
Crazy vs. Crazy, the winner is everyone else!

I think I lost... Lost interest in reading this thread anyway.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 07, 2011, 07:09:18 PM
Crazy vs. Crazy, the winner is everyone else!

I think I lost... Lost interest in reading this thread anyway.

You won! The prize? The time to read something more enriching.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 07, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
Have you guys just not seen what pretty girls look like?
Dude, in the right context, I think most women can look really HOT. Maggie Gyllenhaal
for example?
(http://media21.onsugar.com/files/upl0/0/0/02_2008/Fifi_468x468.larger/i/Fab-Ad-Maggie-Gyllenhaal-Agent-Provocateur.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 07, 2011, 10:57:32 PM
(http://media21.onsugar.com/files/upl0/0/0/02_2008/Fifi_468x468.larger/i/Fab-Ad-Maggie-Gyllenhaal-Agent-Provocateur.jpg)

"I wish I knew how to quit youuuuure brother."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on August 08, 2011, 08:35:02 AM
Have you guys just not seen what pretty girls look like?
Dude, in the right context, I think most women can look really HOT. Maggie Gyllenhaal
for example?
(http://media21.onsugar.com/files/upl0/0/0/02_2008/Fifi_468x468.larger/i/Fab-Ad-Maggie-Gyllenhaal-Agent-Provocateur.jpg)
I already thought Maggie Gyllenhaal was attractive, but seeing this picture of her...

*clears throat*

I'll be in my bunk.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 08, 2011, 09:41:29 AM
The volume of fanboy complaints about any given aspect of a film, TV show, comic book, or video game is inversely proportional to its importance.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 08, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
The amount of fanboy complaints about any given aspect of a film, TV show, comic book, or video game is inversely proportional to its importance.
Interesting theory you postulate. But how many fanboy complaints are there about Wrath of Khan?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: stansimpson on August 08, 2011, 11:36:56 AM
Have you guys just not seen what pretty girls look like?
Dude, in the right context, I think most women can look really HOT. Maggie Gyllenhaal
for example?

I already thought Maggie Gyllenhaal was attractive, but seeing this picture of her...

*clears throat*

I'll be in my bunk.
Thus, again, proving attractiveness is subjective.
(http://alntv.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/244_gyllenhaal_maggie_0925063.jpg)
Did something happen to the lower-half of her face or sumthin?  Why does her brother get a strong chin and she gets something closer to Roger Ebert's current one?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 08, 2011, 12:16:50 PM
Why does her brother get a strong chin and she gets something closer to Roger Ebert's current one?
Ouch! HARSH dude!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on August 08, 2011, 12:22:53 PM
Have you guys just not seen what pretty girls look like?
Dude, in the right context, I think most women can look really HOT. Maggie Gyllenhaal
for example?

I already thought Maggie Gyllenhaal was attractive, but seeing this picture of her...

*clears throat*

I'll be in my bunk.
Thus, again, proving attractiveness is subjective.
(http://alntv.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/244_gyllenhaal_maggie_0925063.jpg)
Did something happen to the lower-half of her face or sumthin?  Why does her brother get a strong chin and she gets something closer to Roger Ebert's current one?

With her hair cut like that, she's even cuter than the previous picture.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 08, 2011, 01:10:19 PM
(http://alntv.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/244_gyllenhaal_maggie_0925063.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/3792831438_3688390e2d.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 08, 2011, 04:50:34 PM
"I wish I knew how to quit you are brother"?

I know all those words, but that sentence makes no sense.

DAMMIT! I'm usually a stickler for spelling, but it eludes me when I try to quote one of my favorite jokes from the Dark Knight Rifftrax.

Proper reproduction: "I wish I knew how to quit youuuur brother." (Remember, during a scene with Christian Bale & Maggie Gyllenhaal, one of them speaks the Brokeback Mountain quote as Bruce Wayne, except changing "quit you" to "quit your brother" in the very middle of the word "you" [because, you know, Maggie is Jake's brother]. I hate explaining jokes, but in case one hasn't watched The Dark Knight Rifftrax...)

"I wish I knew how to quit you are brother", sounds like either a Burroughs cut-up or the new "All our bass r belong 2 us".
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 09, 2011, 07:42:38 AM
I never did see the DK rifftrax; the reauthoring had some kind of major issue for me that I never got around to fixing.
Well you-a know what the Italians say about the Donkey Kong...He's a Bigamist, but I thought that
was just an italian fog!

You know what? I think this calls for another gratuitous pic of Maggie Gyllenhaal!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
God bless Maggie Gyllenhaal in garters!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 09, 2011, 07:29:53 PM
I was expecting the "spoiler" to be some Maggie/donkey hybrid for furries or something.

I wish I knew how to quit you-u-u-ur donkey.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 09, 2011, 09:40:04 PM
I was expecting the "spoiler" to be some Maggie/donkey hybrid for furries or something.
I guess you haven't been reading Anais's Star Trek thread lately... :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 10, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
I was expecting the "spoiler" to be some Maggie/donkey hybrid for furries or something.
I guess you haven't been reading Anais's Star Trek thread lately... :)

Would you recommend it?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 10, 2011, 12:56:56 PM
I was expecting the "spoiler" to be some Maggie/donkey hybrid for furries or something.
I guess you haven't been reading Anais's Star Trek thread lately... :)

Would you recommend it?

It's pretty good. Lotta lens flare, though.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 10, 2011, 02:08:55 PM
It's pretty good. Lotta lens flare, though.
But I must say if the lens flare is that big of a problem, you've probably got way too much
time on your hands to complain about something that has no impact on the quality
of the story of the movie whatsoever, and that is all that should matter.

Now, getting back to the DKR... I've heard from reliable news sources that
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 10, 2011, 02:21:17 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 10, 2011, 02:29:55 PM
Except that movies are a visual medium and judging them for their visual content is a valid way to critique them.
So you're saying a movie should be visually dazzling and still be really great in spite of a really shitty story? Star Wars
prequels, anybody?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 10, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Except that movies are a visual medium and judging them for their visual content is a valid way to critique them.
So you're saying a movie should be visually dazzling and still be really great in spite of a really shitty story? Star Wars
prequels, anybody?

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3483/asdfbrp.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 10, 2011, 10:46:46 PM
Here's another angle from which to view this tiresome subject: http://www.ufosnw.com/definitions/lensflare.htm (http://www.ufosnw.com/definitions/lensflare.htm)

Whenever I see Jar Jar's protruding eyes I want to snip them off with a pair of scissors.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 12:09:26 AM
So you're saying that movies should just be blank screens with people talking?  Radio, anybody?
Okay, I wasn't overgeneralizing, but you are. If you really want to win me over with your argument, you're not doing a very
good job.

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 11, 2011, 01:45:33 AM
But I must say if the lens flare is that big of a problem, you've probably got way too much
time on your hands to complain about something that has no impact on the quality
of the story of the movie whatsoever, and that is all that should matter.

With all due respect, you're projecting a bit, Gunflyer. You're the one spending time obsessed with peoples' critiques of lens flare. It only takes a few seconds to insert "too much lens flare" into one's post. In proportion to the rest of our opinions, you're blowing the lens flare issue way out of proportion. And who says anyone's trying to win anyone over? A good-spirited debate isn't about conversion, it's about being able to get across one's point of view so the opponent can say "I may not agree with you, but you have a valid point & I can see where you're coming from."

Chill out, man. You really don't need to be so defensive & confrontational. Lens flare is not the end of the world (unless someone's filming the apocalypse).

Except that movies are a visual medium and judging them for their visual content is a valid way to critique them.
So you're saying a movie should be visually dazzling and still be really great in spite of a really shitty story? Star Wars
prequels, anybody?
Speaking of points of view, we seem to have completely different concepts of "visually dazzling"! I don't see how in god's name you could say the Star Wars prequels are "visually dazzling!" To me they're stale, antiseptic & lifeless. But to each his own.

There are many facets to a film that can come into play during criticism. It's a ridiculous argument to whittle the essence of film down to Images Vs. Words. As a visual medium, cinematography is as open to criticism as any other facet of a film & its pre-production, production & post-production processes. It's not an either/or proposition. It's quite possible to appreciate good dialogue AND good cinematography.

I wish everyone could simply accept each others' minute opinions without belittling or flaming. Having different points of view on a matter so tiny as lens flare really does not command such tremors. Hell, by this point, Tremors deserves more tremors than Star Trek: Dead Horse.

Maybe we should create a separate sub-forum devoted solely to Lens Flare, and people can let the same arguments play out year after year after year....

[I think I made a point somewhere in this post.]
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on August 11, 2011, 05:07:35 AM
It's pretty good. Lotta lens flare, though.
But I must say if the lens flare is that big of a problem, you've probably got way too much
time on your hands to complain about something that has no impact on the quality
of the story of the movie whatsoever, and that is all that should matter.

 :highfive:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Pak-Man on August 11, 2011, 07:59:54 AM
I, for one, won't watch a movie that doesn't use the occasional star-wipe. :^)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: stansimpson on August 11, 2011, 08:29:56 AM
Anyone else notice that "Dark Knight" threads cause more arguments than the religion thread?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on August 11, 2011, 10:11:43 AM
Well, this will actually happen  ;)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 10:25:10 AM
No, you were completely overgeneralizing. This is the second time you've shit your pants about someone complaining about something visual in a MOVIE.  God forbid!
Look, Imrahil, I can admit when I am wrong. Maybe I was over-generalizing, but let's face
it, you were doing the same. A visual effect that appears on screen for maybe a second at most
then disappears just doesn't matter to me. Now, these so-called lens flares did not impact
my enjoyment of the film because I am not absurdly picky about how the director chooses to
edit his visual effects. That doesn't matter to me! What matters is that the story is good, and the
characters all have a chance to do something important.

That being said, getting back to TDR, it has been said that Bruce Wayne will most likely step out
of the spotlight for a while and this will prompt Catwoman to take over as another vigilante. I think
it's possible she'll start killing people, and we'll see her provide Batman with the impetus to come
back. Ironically, it is her significant transformation from vigilante to cold-blooded killer that will
inspire Batman to come back because she is what he could have been had he gone into that club
and killed Falconi.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 11, 2011, 10:46:41 AM
Well, this will actually happen  ;)

What you dont believe in religion skwisgaar?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 10:50:49 AM
Yes, I was overgeneralizing to make a point. :)
As far as TKR vs. religion...I don't touch religion. I suspect a lot of people are the same way.
When I was on the TSE forum they didn't permit discussion about religion at ALL.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 11, 2011, 10:57:45 AM
Quote
When I was on the TSE forum they didn't permit discussion about religion at ALL.

Wimpy cowards.  I think we have had some dandy religion discussions here in this forum. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: stansimpson on August 11, 2011, 11:00:36 AM
A:  TDK divides people more than religion!
B:  NO!  Religion divides more people!
A:  TDK!
B:  RELIGION!

*Brand new holy war begins*

 ;D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 11, 2011, 11:02:47 AM
Sigh Fine ill go get my crusading armor brb
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 11:18:41 AM
A:  TDK divides people more than religion!
B:  NO!  Religion divides more people!
A:  TDK!
B:  RELIGION!
In the words of Duran Duran "I can't stop myself, it's a New Religion"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 11, 2011, 11:32:46 AM
Thats nice. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on August 11, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
So I hear there's a new Batman movie coming out next year. Why not talk about THAT?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 01:30:09 PM
So I hear there's a new Batman movie coming out next year. Why not talk about THAT?
Look at my last three posts on this thread! I'm normally guilty of trying to derail a thread, but usually I
also try hard to get it back on track too.

Okay, the Dark Knight rises. I'm thinking there will be a scene where
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
says to Bruce
"Nyah nyah, told you so!"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 11, 2011, 01:32:27 PM
I would pay good money to watch batman actually wrestle with the philosophic issues he causes IE he doesnt actually stop crime and his refusal to really deal heavily with the super criminals leads to a rather large civilian death toll. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 01:59:33 PM
I would pay good money to watch batman actually wrestle with the philosophic issues he causes IE he doesnt actually stop crime and his refusal to really deal heavily with the super criminals leads to a rather large civilian death toll.  
Hmmmm.... sure. Just as long as the tone isn't too dark. .. IRONY!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 11, 2011, 02:11:25 PM
you dont want the tone too dark?  You mean they cant play the score in minor key or something?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 11, 2011, 05:11:26 PM
I would pay good money to watch batman actually wrestle with the philosophic issues he causes IE he doesnt actually stop crime and his refusal to really deal heavily with the super criminals leads to a rather large civilian death toll.  
Hmmmm.... sure. Just as long as the tone isn't too dark. .. IRONY!

What if the tone is a single note on a stringed instrument that lingers, and lingers, and lingers, and LINGERS?!!!!

Quote
"Zimmer toiled for three months with the theme for the Joker and, in the end, he took a two-note motif and condensed it down to one note....In theory, any noise could function for a crazed individual, so long as it was presented in an abnormal way. A hair dryer, a garbage can lid, a squealing baby, the sigh of an orgasm. The problem with using one sound, one note for the Joker is that it betrays the complexity of the character. Once again, as with the Batman character, Zimmer has tried so hard, labored for so long, that he has over-thought the situation. Praise may be poured on the idea because it's intellectually different, but that doesn't mean that it's the best representation for the character. The attempt to simplify the musical idea for the purposes of being radically different says more about the composer than it does about the character on screen."http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/dark_knight.html (http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/dark_knight.html)

Or, as the Rifftrax guys described it during the interrogation scene: "Is there a plane about to take off?"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 06:02:34 PM
Ugh, zimmer.
Hell, if I was going to splurge on making a REALLY great Batman movie, I'd say "Fuck
it, let's spend 10 million on John Williams to do the score.

What if the tone is a single note on a stringed instrument that lingers, and lingers, and lingers, and LINGERS?!!!!
See my earlier reply about the lens flare complaint.
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 11, 2011, 06:25:04 PM
Hmmmm.... sure. Just as long as the tone isn't too dark. .. IRONY!
What if the tone is a single note on a stringed instrument that lingers, and lingers, and lingers, and LINGERS?!!!!
See my earlier reply about the lens flare complaint.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

No I meant like, ironically, is Zimmer's score "too dark" for you (ironically)?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 06:31:51 PM
No I meant like, ironically, is Zimmer's score "too dark" for you (ironically)?
I wasn't even thinking about that, I'm talking about the tone of the film in general. The
music is fine. Isn't the best, but it's fine.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 11, 2011, 07:27:37 PM
No I meant like, ironically, is Zimmer's score "too dark" for you (ironically)?
I wasn't even thinking about that, I'm talking about the tone of the film in general. The
music is fine. Isn't the best, but it's fine.

No, I mean--- I was trying to get you to give an ironic answer! You asked an ironic question, so I followed up with a question I was expecting an ironic answer to, haha. Oy vey. The one time I want an ironic answer I get a sincere one! Usually it's the other way around.  :)

Anyway, forget the score. One of my idiosyncrasies is being very amused by the relativity of what people consider "dark". It's funny to me when people say something is "dark" that is relatively light compared to what I consider "dark".  So I thought it was funny when you said "as long as the tone isn't too dark".

My communication skills seem to have deteriorated over the years. Unless one is telepathic, I can see how my replies are confusing if no one knows about my relation to the word dark. I have a running gag with one friend where we'll say "[Insert non-dark movie title] is dark," or we'll have different categories of dark ("Star Wars dark" being the most superficial). Sometimes I forget that no one else could possibly know this.

So now that I've tried to explain my confused psyche, if you read my last few posts but imagine me snickering at every utterance of the word "dark", that should change the tone.

Hmmmm.... sure. Just as long as the tone isn't too dark. .. IRONY!
No I meant like, ironically, is Zimmer's score "too dark" for you (ironically)?

I'll now employ a self-deprecating remark to get this post on topic:

I bet you guys all think I belong in Arkham Asylum.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on August 11, 2011, 08:28:43 PM
I would pay good money to watch batman actually wrestle with the philosophic issues he causes IE he doesnt actually stop crime and his refusal to really deal heavily with the super criminals leads to a rather large civilian death toll. 

There's no Batman and Bruce is in a coma from falling down the well when he was 8...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 11, 2011, 10:32:54 PM
No I meant like, ironically, is Zimmer's score "too dark" for you (ironically)?
I wasn't even thinking about that, I'm talking about the tone of the film in general. The
music is fine. Isn't the best, but it's fine.
No, I mean--- I was trying to get you to give an ironic answer! You asked an ironic question, so I followed up with a question I was expecting an ironic answer to, haha. Oy vey.
Oh, sorry. :) I've actually been wracking my brain trying to come up with a funny, ironic answer
and I can't think of one.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on August 12, 2011, 05:29:10 AM
I would pay good money to watch batman actually wrestle with the philosophic issues he causes IE he doesnt actually stop crime and his refusal to really deal heavily with the super criminals leads to a rather large civilian death toll. 

There's no Batman and Bruce is in a coma from falling down the well when he was 8...

There was no monster.  Bruce Wayne was recovered from the bottom of a well, in good health and of normal size.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on August 12, 2011, 07:20:47 AM
I would pay good money to watch batman actually wrestle with the philosophic issues he causes IE he doesnt actually stop crime and his refusal to really deal heavily with the super criminals leads to a rather large civilian death toll. 

There's no Batman and Bruce is in a coma from falling down the well when he was 8...

There was no monster.  Bruce Wayne was recovered from the bottom of a well, in good health and of normal size.

 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on August 12, 2011, 05:05:26 PM

Whenever I see Jar Jar's protruding eyes I want to snip them off with a pair of scissors.

Tex Avery-style, or Eli Roth-style?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on August 12, 2011, 05:11:09 PM

Whenever I see Jar Jar's protruding eyes I want to snip them off with a pair of scissors.

Tex Avery-style, or Eli Roth-style?

I'd like to see both, myself.  I'm a man of eclectic taste.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 13, 2011, 01:10:07 AM

Whenever I see Jar Jar's protruding eyes I want to snip them off with a pair of scissors.

Tex Avery-style, or Eli Roth-style?

Never thought about it. I never envisioned any spurting, so not Roth-style.

I'm thinking... more like Robert G Durant style (the Darkman villain played by Larry Drake). A cigar cutter makes it swift & clean.

Now, if only we get Michael Madsen to come & cut off his ears, then Jar Jar might start resembling the "Pale Man" from Pan's Labyrinth. If Jar Jar got crucified, his mutilated hands would provide a slot for his eyes.

(http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/panimage~2.jpg)

I'd like to see Batman fight that.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 13, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
(http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/panimage~2.jpg)

For him, excessive masturbation really could make him go blind.

 :rimshot:

So could a rim shot, for that matter.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 14, 2011, 06:42:35 PM
(http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/panimage~2.jpg)
D'ya think he has good hand/eye coordination?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 15, 2011, 06:06:59 AM
(http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/panimage~2.jpg)
He plays a confusing and terrifying game of peekaboo.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Bob on August 15, 2011, 07:48:00 AM
But no one can ever sneak a joy buzzer on him, so it is totally worth it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on August 15, 2011, 10:16:43 AM
(http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/panimage~2.jpg)

Also the saying "See with your eyes, not with your hands" doesn't really work on him.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 15, 2011, 11:18:10 AM

(http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/panimage~2.jpg)
So does he have to wash his hands with Johnson&Johnson Baby Shampoo?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 16, 2011, 12:58:17 AM
(http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/panimage~2.jpg)
During a scary movie, he covers his eyes with his face.

Which character in the Batman universe would be most likely to visualize this after inhaling Scarecrow's weaponized fear gas?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mrbasehart on August 16, 2011, 03:12:16 AM
(http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tom-hardy-batman-bane-01.jpg)
Bane.


This is a week or two old, but it at least gets us away from the hideous Pan's Labyrinth monster.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 16, 2011, 05:45:15 AM

(http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tom-hardy-batman-bane-01.jpg)
Does anybody know where I can get some...*looks at notes*...stare...o...ids?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on August 16, 2011, 02:11:09 PM
(http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tom-hardy-batman-bane-01.jpg)

Bane reads the address on the order form again, hopelessly lost and embarrassed that he is late for his first appointment as a strippergram.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2011, 06:35:14 PM
I think it's pretty cool how he looks like he has a Mohawk. Makes him
look even more sadistic somehow. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Henry88 on August 16, 2011, 06:46:59 PM
(http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tom-hardy-batman-bane-01.jpg)

i wonder how  The VENOM  going to play in?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2011, 06:48:00 PM
i wonder how  The VENOM  going to play in?
The Venom? This is what I get for not following the graphic novels...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 16, 2011, 06:49:25 PM
I think it's pretty cool how he looks like he has a Mohawk. Makes him
look even more sadistic somehow. 

The Dark Mohican Rises?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2011, 06:50:52 PM
The Dark Mohican Rises?
That's so dark! Shoulda been called Last of the Mobleakans.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on August 16, 2011, 07:14:58 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Sb91G4cmP2I/Td2FczdImwI/AAAAAAAAAGo/n8stqPt566A/s1600/bbane.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Henry88 on August 16, 2011, 07:23:10 PM
i wonder how  The VENOM  going to play in?
The Venom? This is what I get for not following the graphic novels...

the the steroid mix that bane uses  that is what i was asking
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 16, 2011, 08:06:47 PM
Do you think the movie will feature a pun like:

"He's the Bane of my existence!"

Sorry, had to get that out. I feel better now.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2011, 08:12:24 PM
Do you think the movie will feature a pun like:
"He's the Bane of my existence!"
Sorry, had to get that out. I feel better now.
What's your prediction for this fight?
Mr T: Prediction?
Yes, Prediction
Mr T:.... BANE
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 16, 2011, 08:17:24 PM
Is crime keeping you up at night with a splitting headache? Try Wayne Enterprise's new rapid-release BANE-killer.  :gouge:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
Is crime keeping you up at night with a splitting headache? Try Wayne Enterprise's new rapid-release BANE-killer.  :gouge:
He's a Bane-iac, Ban-iac on the floor...;)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 16, 2011, 08:28:59 PM
He's a Bane-iac, Ban-iac on the floor...;)

And he's...hamming like he's never hammed before?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Henry88 on August 16, 2011, 08:30:57 PM
*brings out clown hammer x4*

 ;D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 16, 2011, 08:37:15 PM
I played bass for Clown Hammer x4 back in high school.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 16, 2011, 10:04:57 PM
(http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tom-hardy-batman-bane-01.jpg)


To Be or not to be?!  What is this garbage?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on August 16, 2011, 10:40:50 PM
I found all those puns very Bane-al.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on August 16, 2011, 11:03:05 PM
"Gee, Bane, what are we gonna do tonight?"
"The same thing we do every night, Pinky.  Try to break Batman."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Action Batch on August 17, 2011, 09:07:48 AM
I played bass for Clown Hammer x4 back in high school.

My brother used to drive a Clown Hummer 4x4.

My Nana's favorite porcelain figurine was her Clown Hummel.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mrbasehart on August 17, 2011, 10:08:34 AM
A clown hummer is really just a hooker wearing a red nose while she blows you.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on August 17, 2011, 01:13:38 PM
A clown hummer is really just a hooker wearing a red nose while she blows you.

Ummm.. that's not a fake nose.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 17, 2011, 09:32:06 PM
A clown hummer is really just a hooker wearing a red nose while she blows you.

Does she swallow the Clown Hummus?

*GAG*
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 18, 2011, 09:33:17 AM
If it resembles hummus in any way, see a doctor immediately.
What the pumice?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on August 22, 2011, 03:28:11 PM
LEAKED PICS (and video)!!! Spoiler'd for size.

Also, how do we feel about spoilers? Technically, everything here is just speculation - no one's going to be posting excerpts from the script (I hope), or shouting BANE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!!! (I hope) so really, I have no problem posting every tidbit of info we can get. Though the leaked videos are a bit too revealing, so I'll keep those spoiler'd no matter what.

Anywho, Bane at Heinz field in Pittsburgh:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Hathaway's stunt double on the batpod:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Miranda Tate (played by Marion Cotillard):
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And HOLY CRAP LOOK AT THIS (video with awesome spoiler):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on August 28, 2011, 11:53:49 PM
I played bass for Clown Hammer x4 back in high school.

My brother used to drive a Clown Hummer 4x4.

DO NOT do a Google image search for "clown hummer."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 28, 2011, 11:57:45 PM
I played bass for Clown Hammer x4 back in high school.

My brother used to drive a Clown Hummer 4x4.

DO NOT do a Google image search for "clown hummer."

Full-blown nightmare fuel.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 29, 2011, 07:13:15 AM


Spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's still better then the halftime show at last year's Superbowl.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 29, 2011, 09:04:28 AM
Is Bane going to blow up a football stadium? Without evacuating the people first?

"If John G isn't dead in an hour, I'm going to blow up a stadium."

(VACATION!)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on August 29, 2011, 09:21:01 AM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 29, 2011, 10:02:06 AM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.
Except for Kosho.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on August 29, 2011, 10:49:55 AM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 29, 2011, 11:55:55 AM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Bob on August 29, 2011, 12:00:38 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 29, 2011, 12:16:11 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

*Cue John Madden speech on "tough actin' Tinactin"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on August 30, 2011, 08:45:38 AM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on August 30, 2011, 01:04:08 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 30, 2011, 01:10:15 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.

Wait,what is this thread about again?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 30, 2011, 01:32:08 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.

Wait,what is this thread about again?

Right-wing gay porn.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 30, 2011, 02:04:35 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.

Wait,what is this thread about again?

Right-wing gay porn.
:gouge:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 30, 2011, 05:26:51 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.

Wait,what is this thread about again?

Right-wing gay porn.
:gouge:

Michelle Bachman sitting on Anne Coulter's face

Last Blouse on the Left  :speechless:

-----

Not a porn title, but to merge this with the main topic:

The Dark Right Rises (it's facepalmingly stupid & fills me with shame, but it's on topic)

The right wing of the bat. There is no right wing of the bat, it's all right.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 30, 2011, 05:45:52 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.

Wait,what is this thread about again?

Right-wing gay porn.
:gouge:

Michelle Bachman sitting on Anne Coulter's face

Last Blouse on the Left  :speechless:

-----

Not a porn title, but to merge this with the main topic:

The Dark Right Rises (it's facepalmingly stupid & fills me with shame, but it's on topic)

The right wing of the bat. There is no right wing of the bat, it's all right.

Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, and Larry Craig in Grand Old Lemon Party.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on August 30, 2011, 07:33:22 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.

Wait,what is this thread about again?

Right-wing gay porn.
:gouge:

Michelle Bachman sitting on Anne Coulter's face

Last Blouse on the Left  :speechless:

-----

Not a porn title, but to merge this with the main topic:

The Dark Right Rises (it's facepalmingly stupid & fills me with shame, but it's on topic)

The right wing of the bat. There is no right wing of the bat, it's all right.

Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, and Larry Craig in Grand Old Lemon Party.

Abbreviated GOLP, but pronounced "gulp".
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 30, 2011, 07:49:45 PM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.

Wait,what is this thread about again?

Right-wing gay porn.
:gouge:

Michelle Bachman sitting on Anne Coulter's face

Last Blouse on the Left  :speechless:

-----

Not a porn title, but to merge this with the main topic:

The Dark Right Rises (it's facepalmingly stupid & fills me with shame, but it's on topic)

The right wing of the bat. There is no right wing of the bat, it's all right.

Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, and Larry Craig in Grand Old Lemon Party.

Abbreviated GOLP, but pronounced "gulp".

For a split second I misread "Larry Craig" as "Larry David".
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 31, 2011, 08:59:27 AM
I don't get this.  Everybody knows that sports do not take place in any comic book universe.

It's an all-cheerleader, no athlete world.
I WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD!

The Monkey paw gave him his wish.   Sadly, it was an all male cheerleader world.

And he's been transformed into one of their jockstraps.

And the male cheerleaders are all George W Bush.

Well that's somebody's fantasy world.

Wait,what is this thread about again?

Right-wing gay porn.
:gouge:

Michelle Bachman sitting on Anne Coulter's face

Last Blouse on the Left  :speechless:

-----

Not a porn title, but to merge this with the main topic:

The Dark Right Rises (it's facepalmingly stupid & fills me with shame, but it's on topic)

The right wing of the bat. There is no right wing of the bat, it's all right.

Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, and Larry Craig in Grand Old Lemon Party.

Abbreviated GOLP, but pronounced "gulp".

 :gouge:

You are trying to make me sick,right?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on August 31, 2011, 10:43:14 AM
Dear God, Batman save us from this thread!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 31, 2011, 10:58:19 AM
Im not usually a praying man, but if your up there superman
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 31, 2011, 11:06:40 AM
Im not usually a praying man, but if your up there superman

Superman's too busy jackin' it to While My Cigar Gently Weeps.

He's way more into left-wing porn
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 31, 2011, 11:08:33 AM
Micheal moore John kerry Al Franken Threeway?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on August 31, 2011, 02:44:58 PM
Dear God, Batman save us from this thread!

He's on his way!

(http://artmadness.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/20080112-batman-robin-3d-sidewalk-art.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 31, 2011, 02:49:52 PM
Micheal moore John kerry Al Franken Threeway?

 :gouge: :gouge: :gouge:

Anyone got a gun?  I feel the need to shoot myself.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on August 31, 2011, 08:02:15 PM
Micheal moore John kerry Al Franken Threeway?

 :gouge: :gouge: :gouge:

Anyone got a gun?  I feel the need to shoot myself.

Would it ease the pain to throw Daryl Hannah & Susan Sarandon into the mix? And one of Martin Sheen's daughters.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 01, 2011, 07:04:34 AM
Micheal moore John kerry Al Franken Threeway?

 :gouge: :gouge: :gouge:

Anyone got a gun?  I feel the need to shoot myself.

Would it ease the pain to throw Daryl Hannah & Susan Sarandon into the mix? And one of Martin Sheen's daughters.

I did not know Martin Sheen's had daughters,hopefully they are more sane then their brother.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on September 02, 2011, 04:26:13 AM
Micheal moore John kerry Al Franken Threeway?

 :gouge: :gouge: :gouge:

Anyone got a gun?  I feel the need to shoot myself.

Would it ease the pain to throw Daryl Hannah & Susan Sarandon into the mix? And one of Martin Sheen's daughters.

I did not know Martin Sheen's had daughters,hopefully they are more sane then their brother.

Actually I don't know for a fact either, I was just trying to think up more female liberals...

(Checking IMDB)...

...Okay, he only has one daughter, Renee Estevez. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0261729/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0261729/)

Of course, I shouldn't assume she shares her father's politics. The Baldwins have wildly diverging politics; I recall an article wherein one of the non-Alecs became a born-again christian & vocal pro-lifer, much to Alec's chagrin.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 02, 2011, 11:27:33 AM
Quote
Actually I don't know for a fact either, I was just trying to think up more female liberals.

rosanne bar?  Rosie o'donnel?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on September 03, 2011, 12:12:25 AM
Quote
Actually I don't know for a fact either, I was just trying to think up more female liberals.

rosanne bar?  Rosie o'donnel?

I was trying to talk Doctor Who out of suicide by proposing an alternative orgy of non-repulsive female liberals, but because of you he may threaten to shoot himself again.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 03, 2011, 04:23:14 AM
Hey i figured out what the next Batman movie is going to be named...

The Dark Knight eats Breakfast.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on September 03, 2011, 06:03:05 AM
It was Stephen who became the born again christian.



I like how you refer to him as the non Alec though,  :D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on September 03, 2011, 11:10:09 PM
Hey i figured out what the next Batman movie is going to be named...

The Dark Knight eats Breakfast.

*GROWLS* "Alfred, these Corn Flakes are soggy. You let the milk settle for too long. I need to pour new ones. WHERE ARE THEY?!"

Speaking of milk, how exactly did Rachel & Bruce play with powdered milk as children? Of all the tidbits revealed in BB... How do you play with powdered milk? Is there a magical childhood game I was deprived of?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on September 04, 2011, 05:55:50 AM
They meant Bruce made fun of Rachel because that was her only toy.


Bruce doesn't like poor people
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on September 04, 2011, 08:04:42 AM
They meant Bruce made fun of Rachel because that was her only toy.


Bruce doesn't like poor people

Neither does Alfred, apparently, if he was the one hiding it from them.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 04, 2011, 04:57:41 PM
Hey i figured out what the next Batman movie is going to be named...

The Dark Knight eats Breakfast.

*GROWLS* "Alfred, these Corn Flakes are soggy. You let the milk settle for too long. I need to pour new ones. WHERE ARE THEY?!"



That will be followed by The Dark Knight takes his dog for a morning walk.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 05, 2011, 09:14:45 AM
Hey i figured out what the next Batman movie is going to be named...

The Dark Knight eats Breakfast.

*GROWLS* "Alfred, these Corn Flakes are soggy. You let the milk settle for too long. I need to pour new ones. WHERE ARE THEY?!"



That will be followed by The Dark Knight takes his dog for a morning walk.

In my experience, The Dark Knight Dumps comes before The Dark Knight Goes Walkies with Wuffles

The first Batman movie to get slapped with an NC17 rating.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on September 05, 2011, 02:49:04 PM
Hey i figured out what the next Batman movie is going to be named...

The Dark Knight eats Breakfast.

*GROWLS* "Alfred, these Corn Flakes are soggy. You let the milk settle for too long. I need to pour new ones. WHERE ARE THEY?!"



That will be followed by The Dark Knight takes his dog for a morning walk.

In my experience, The Dark Knight Dumps comes before The Dark Knight Goes Walkies with Wuffles

Hey, Batman's dog is called Ace, thank you very much!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on September 05, 2011, 04:01:24 PM
Man that is such a better name than krypto.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on September 07, 2011, 12:15:28 AM
Hey i figured out what the next Batman movie is going to be named...

The Dark Knight eats Breakfast.

*GROWLS* "Alfred, these Corn Flakes are soggy. You let the milk settle for too long. I need to pour new ones. WHERE ARE THEY?!"



That will be followed by The Dark Knight takes his dog for a morning walk.

In my experience, The Dark Knight Dumps comes before The Dark Knight Goes Walkies with Wuffles

Hey, Batman's dog is called Ace, thank you very much!

Ace O'Spades?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 07, 2011, 12:46:49 PM
Hey i figured out what the next Batman movie is going to be named...

The Dark Knight eats Breakfast.

*GROWLS* "Alfred, these Corn Flakes are soggy. You let the milk settle for too long. I need to pour new ones. WHERE ARE THEY?!"



That will be followed by The Dark Knight takes his dog for a morning walk.

In my experience, The Dark Knight Dumps comes before The Dark Knight Goes Walkies with Wuffles

Hey, Batman's dog is called Ace, thank you very much!

Ace O'Spades?

I don't see what the colour of his fur has to do with anything, bigot.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggans on September 09, 2011, 04:08:00 AM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-womans-baseless-hatred-of-anne-hathaway-recip,21289/

Remind you of anyone? :P
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on September 20, 2011, 03:54:29 PM
I saw a teaser for TDKR at the cinema. Most of it consisted of Gary Oldman talking in a hospital bed, and I had a hard time making out half of what he was saying (I generally understood something to the effect of Gotham getting worse & the necessity of the dark knight rising).

What is it with Chris Nolan & dialogue with poor enunciation? Oldman's usually a crisp deliverer of dialogue, even as the facially mangled Mason Verger! Marion Cotillard was easier to understand in Contagion than Inception. I have no basis of comparison for Ken Watanabe, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. And if I recall correctly, Pacino was more mumbly than usual in Nolan's Insomnia remake. ("Jus' lemme sleep, lemme sleep")

I wonder if Nolan has hearing issues or is tone deaf. Let's give him a concert video to direct. Mumblecore?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 20, 2011, 05:49:39 PM
I saw a teaser for TDKR at the cinema. Most of it consisted of Gary Oldman talking in a hospital bed, and I had a hard time making out half of what he was saying (I generally understood something to the effect of Gotham getting worse & the necessity of the dark knight rising).

What is it with Chris Nolan & dialogue with poor enunciation? Oldman's usually a crisp deliverer of dialogue, even as the facially mangled Mason Verger! Marion Cotillard was easier to understand in Contagion than Inception. I have no basis of comparison for Ken Watanabe, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. And if I recall correctly, Pacino was more mumbly than usual in Nolan's Insomnia remake. ("Jus' lemme sleep, lemme sleep")

I wonder if Nolan has hearing issues or is tone deaf. Let's give him a concert video to direct. Mumblecore?

Maybe your theater just has bad speakers because I have never had any trouble understanding dialog in his movies.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on September 26, 2011, 09:11:42 AM
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2463/catwomanv.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on September 26, 2011, 12:01:30 PM
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2463/catwomanv.jpg)

Anne Hathaway IS Julie Newmar!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Bob on September 26, 2011, 12:08:23 PM
So, I wonder if they need any volunteers to help lube her up every morning to get into costume?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on September 26, 2011, 12:17:47 PM
So, I wonder if they need any volunteers to help lube her up every morning to get into costume?

And Land O'Lakes shares suddenly skyrocket.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on September 26, 2011, 12:54:06 PM
So, I wonder if they need any volunteers to help lube her up every morning to get into costume?

And Land O'Lakes shares suddenly skyrocket.
I'm pretty sure that costume is spray painted on. So it would be Crylon stock that goes up.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on November 21, 2011, 05:55:27 PM
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/11/21/dark-knight-rises-bane-empire.jpg)

Quote
News On The Dark Knight Rises
Tom Hardy on Bane, and Nolan speaks! (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32527)


You've seen the new Empire covers with Batman and Bane, but here's a sneak peek at some of the news on The Dark Knight Rises inside the magazine. Specifically, Nolan himself gives away a few tidbits on the film's plot and setting, and Tom Hardy talks about Bane.

Let's hear from director Christopher Nolan first, and see what he'll divulge about the film. "It's really all about finishing Batman and Bruce Wayne's story. We left him in a very precarious place. Perhaps surprisingly for some people, our story picks up quite a bit later, eight years after The Dark Knight. So he's an older Bruce Wayne; he's not in a great state.

"With Bane, we're looking to give Batman a challenge he hasn't had before. With our choice of villain and with our choice of story we're testing Batman both physically as well as mentally."

Speaking of physical challenges, what can Tom Hardy tell us about Bane? "He's brutal. Brutal. He's a big dude who's incredibly clinical, in the fact that he has a result-based and oriented fighting style. It's not about fighting. It's about carnage. The style is heavy-handed, heavy-footed, it's nasty. Anything from small-joint manipulation to crushing skulls, crushing rib cages, stamping on shins and knees and necks and collarbones and snapping heads off and tearing his fists through chests, ripping out spinal columns. He is a terrorist in mentality as well as brutal action."

Costume designer Lindy Hemming also lets drop a few clues to his backstory as she talks about Bane's look. On the mask, she says, "He was injured early in his story. He's suffering from pain and needs gas to survive. He can't survive the pain without the mask. The pipes from the mask go back along his jawline and feed into the thing at his back, where there are two cannisters."

For much, much more from all these people - as well as Christian Bale - pick up the new issue of Empire when it hits newsstands on Thursday. The Dark Knight Rises is out in cinemas on July 20, 2012.

Its prologue, Nolan has confirmed, will be in select IMAX cinemas on December 21. As with The Dark Knight, it will be - according to Nolan - "basically the first six, seven minutes of the film" and will serve as "an introduction to Bane, and a taste of the rest of the film."

Eight years later, Batman not in a great state, and challenged by a super bad ass.  Kinda sounds like the Rocky III of the Batman movies.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Prince of Space 5049 on November 21, 2011, 06:06:13 PM
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2463/catwomanv.jpg)

Anne Hathaway IS Julie Newmar!

Sorry, there is only ONE Julie Newmar!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on November 21, 2011, 06:17:26 PM
Quote
News On The Dark Knight Rises
Tom Hardy on Bane, and Nolan speaks! (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32527)


You've seen the new Empire covers with Batman and Bane, but here's a sneak peek at some of the news on The Dark Knight Rises inside the magazine. Specifically, Nolan himself gives away a few tidbits on the film's plot and setting, and Tom Hardy talks about Bane.

Let's hear from director Christopher Nolan first, and see what he'll divulge about the film. "It's really all about finishing Batman and Bruce Wayne's story. We left him in a very precarious place. Perhaps surprisingly for some people, our story picks up quite a bit later, eight years after The Dark Knight. So he's an older Bruce Wayne; he's not in a great state.

"With Bane, we're looking to give Batman a challenge he hasn't had before. With our choice of villain and with our choice of story we're testing Batman both physically as well as mentally."

Speaking of physical challenges, what can Tom Hardy tell us about Bane? "He's brutal. Brutal. He's a big dude who's incredibly clinical, in the fact that he has a result-based and oriented fighting style. It's not about fighting. It's about carnage. The style is heavy-handed, heavy-footed, it's nasty. Anything from small-joint manipulation to crushing skulls, crushing rib cages, stamping on shins and knees and necks and collarbones and snapping heads off and tearing his fists through chests, ripping out spinal columns. He is a terrorist in mentality as well as brutal action."

Costume designer Lindy Hemming also lets drop a few clues to his backstory as she talks about Bane's look. On the mask, she says, "He was injured early in his story. He's suffering from pain and needs gas to survive. He can't survive the pain without the mask. The pipes from the mask go back along his jawline and feed into the thing at his back, where there are two cannisters."

For much, much more from all these people - as well as Christian Bale - pick up the new issue of Empire when it hits newsstands on Thursday. The Dark Knight Rises is out in cinemas on July 20, 2012.

Its prologue, Nolan has confirmed, will be in select IMAX cinemas on December 21. As with The Dark Knight, it will be - according to Nolan - "basically the first six, seven minutes of the film" and will serve as "an introduction to Bane, and a taste of the rest of the film."


woooooooooooo
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 21, 2011, 06:27:14 PM
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2463/catwomanv.jpg)
Weird, never thought Hathaway looked like Ann's sister Mary and yet, in that pic.....
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 21, 2011, 06:30:00 PM
Excellent.  :D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on November 21, 2011, 06:46:26 PM
Oh, so they kept Catwoman in 6 INCH HEELS. Glad Nolan is so adamant about his gritty realism.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Raefire on November 21, 2011, 07:34:32 PM
Oh, so they kept Catwoman in 6 INCH HEELS. Glad Nolan is so adamant about his gritty realism.

Maybe it's supposed to be like a carbon fiber-reinforced titanium heel. Now imagine that connecting with your face.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on November 21, 2011, 07:54:49 PM
I can imagine it connecting with ice on a dark roof top. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on November 21, 2011, 08:19:22 PM
Oh, so they kept Catwoman in 6 INCH HEELS. Glad Nolan is so adamant about his gritty realism.
:D
He didn't agree with reality's bias towards cats walking bare-feet & hating leather costumes. When he talks of "realism", you may find a very microscopic asterisk which leads to this microscopic footnote: "Realism is like inception. I plant the idea in millions of peoples' minds that my movies are 'realistic.' Not only do they believe it, they send hate mail to anyone who says otherwise."

You'll find a more "realistic" cat-woman in the form of Fairuza Balk from The Island of Dr Moreau.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on November 22, 2011, 04:58:50 AM
I can imagine it connecting with ice on a dark roof top. 

Is she doing that in the photo?


Although I should know better, I'm pretty staggered by people basically writing this movie off based on some behind the scenes stills.  Given the last two movies I'm personally more than happy to trust Nolan to make an (at least) really good movie, am I in the minority?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: James of LinHood on November 22, 2011, 06:11:52 AM
Although I should know better, I'm pretty staggered by people basically writing this movie off based on some behind the scenes stills.  Given the last two movies I'm personally more than happy to trust Nolan to make an (at least) really good movie, am I in the minority?

Well, you're not alone.

Honestly, Nolan has never done anything yet to make me think that this movie is going to be bad in any way.  Still photos can be misleading as they only capture a small sliver of the entire product, and therefore can be easily taken out of context.

I remember thinking that the casting of Heath Ledger as the Joker in The Dark Knight was straight up bazaar.  I really didn't think he could pull it off.  And then I saw him in the trailers and was blown away. 

So, I've learned to trust Nolan.  I think he'll deliver.  Just like he's done on all of his previous films.   :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Invader_quirk on November 22, 2011, 09:24:17 AM
Maybe there will be a hilarious moment after Batman and Catwoman meet where Batman's in the foreground in front of Catwoman, looks sidelong at her and remarks "Oh, and Catwoman? Lose the heels." and then he jumps off the building and Catwoman looks offended. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on November 26, 2011, 09:27:25 AM
Maybe there will be a hilarious moment after Batman and Catwoman meet where Batman's in the foreground in front of Catwoman, looks sidelong at her and remarks "Oh, and Catwoman? Lose the heels." and then he jumps off the building and Catwoman looks offended. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Just read some more details from Christopher Nolan. Apparently, the Dark Knight rises
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Make of that what you will, and for the record I seriously doubt that Bane will break Batman's back not just for obvious pacing reasons, but because the author of the original story would probably have to get a shitload of money for his plot line being used in a 200+ million dollar movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on November 26, 2011, 05:20:55 PM
Maybe there will be a hilarious moment after Batman and Catwoman meet where Batman's in the foreground in front of Catwoman, looks sidelong at her and remarks "Oh, and Catwoman? Lose the heels." and then he jumps off the building and Catwoman looks offended. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Just read some more details from Christopher Nolan. Apparently, the Dark Knight rises
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Make of that what you will, and for the record I seriously doubt that Bane will break Batman's back not just for obvious pacing reasons, but because the author of the original story would probably have to get a shitload of money for his plot line being used in a 200+ million dollar movie.

All the creative work done for any major comic book label is wholly owned by the company (DC Comics in this case), last I heard. Which is why Alan Moore starts a little crusade every time one of his comics is made into a movie without his permission.

And it would be pretty much impossible to defend a copyright on the basis that "they ripped off the plot". From my brief history in internet legal sleuthing, I've found that in order for a work to be in violation of the copyright of another work it has to cause some confusion to the audience or customers. Like if I released a book entitled Harry Topper who goes to a magical school in Scotland called Pigtarts and battles the dark wizard Vulduemorte, I'd be in trouble. But writing a book about a kid who goes to a magical school, finds out he is the chosen one, and has to battle a dark wizard was done way before Rowling made enough money to buy her own planet and fill it with cat figurines.

Bane breaking Batman's back is a pretty specific plot point, though. Considering the writers of the story do not own the characters Batman or Bane or anything related to the Batman franchise, they would have to argue that somehow they own the rights to a villain crippling a hero, or someone getting their back broken, or some other creative interpretation.

And besides, Nolan used elements from other Batman novels and comic books in his previous two Batman films (notably Year One and The Long Halloween), so even if the writers get boatloads of cash for only inspiring the screenplay, they're obviously not adverse to it.

The moral of the story is: it really, really, really sucks to be a comic book writer, because you don't own anything. Unless you come up with something new, in which case good luck getting it published without the publisher making you put on a Robin costume and inviting you down to the Batcave.

I don't think Batman will get his back broken in TDKR either, though; because of the pacing.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on November 27, 2011, 05:38:38 PM
And besides, Nolan used elements from other Batman novels and comic books in his previous two Batman films (notably Year One and The Long Halloween), so even if the writers get boatloads of cash for only inspiring the screenplay, they're obviously not adverse to it.

Also Alan Moore's Killing Joke. In KJ the Joker had several different reasons on how he came to be..
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on November 28, 2011, 02:47:55 PM
All the creative work done for any major comic book label is wholly owned by the company (DC Comics in this case), last I heard. Which is why Alan Moore starts a little crusade every time one of his comics is made into a movie without his permission.
Hmm, I didn't know that before.
I don't think Batman will get his back broken in TDKR either, though; because of the pacing.
Yeah, the Dark knight rises isn't about the near-death of Batman, it's about his return to grace. Bane is like mountain with a sheer cliff face, and Batman is like a climber with little more than rope.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on November 28, 2011, 07:49:27 PM
All the creative work done for any major comic book label is wholly owned by the company (DC Comics in this case), last I heard. Which is why Alan Moore starts a little crusade every time one of his comics is made into a movie without his permission.
Hmm, I didn't know that before.

That is why Image Comics exists. The original founders were fed up of working for the big companies and not having any control over characters they created.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on November 28, 2011, 08:07:02 PM
Ironic i just saw this. 

http://www.the-gutters.com/comic/220-joe-st-pierre
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on November 28, 2011, 08:19:33 PM
Hah! That is good. What is really funny about Image and the original founders only Erik Larsen (Savage Dragon) is still writing and drawing every book. Image became what they hated about the industry.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on November 29, 2011, 03:41:37 AM
Hah! That is good. What is really funny about Image and the original founders only Erik Larsen (Savage Dragon) is still writing and drawing every book. Image became what they hated about the industry.

Who watches the watchmen?  ;D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nunyerbiz on November 29, 2011, 08:29:08 AM
I can imagine it connecting with ice on a dark roof top. 

Is she doing that in the photo?


Although I should know better, I'm pretty staggered by people basically writing this movie off based on some behind the scenes stills.  Given the last two movies I'm personally more than happy to trust Nolan to make an (at least) really good movie, am I in the minority?

I'm not writing the movie off based on stills. I really don't give a crap about that kind of stuff. I trust Nolan to make either a really good movie, ala Batman Begins, or take a horseshit script and make it smell acceptable, ala Dark Knight. I just never, ever understood the universal praise heaped on TDK. For two hours the Joker pisses in Batman's gaping maw whenever he wants... and instead of doing ANY Batman detective or hero type stuff to save the day, the screenwriter trots out Morgan fucking Freeman's dues ex machina. I got a hearty chuckle from the whole thing... Nolan ignoring just about everything that makes Batman a cool character in order to shoehorn in that trite "big brother is watching you" talking point... but I gotta give the guy credit... It was still an enjoyable watch despite that lackluster script... and I'll have no problems seeing the next installment.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: James of LinHood on December 02, 2011, 06:21:16 AM
The first 6 minutes of The Dark Knight Rises will be playing with Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol in the following IMAX theaters starting Friday, December 16th:

Austin, TX - IMAX Theater Austin - Austin
Boston, MA - Jordan’s IMAX - Natick
Boston, MA - IMAX 3D Theatre in Reading - Reading
Calgary, AB - Scotiabank Theatre Chinook 16 - Calgary
Chantilly, VA/Washington, DC - Udvar-Hazy Center IMAX - Chantilly
Chicago, IL - Navy Pier IMAX Theatre - Chicago
Des Moines, IA - SCI IMAX Dome Theater - Des Moines
Detroit, MI - Henry Ford IMAX - Dearborn
Edmonton, AB - Scotiabank Theatre Edmonton - Edmonton
Harrisburg, PA - Whitaker Center for Science & the Arts - Harrisburg
Houston, TX - Houston Marq*e Stadium 22 + IMAX - Houston
Indianapolis - White River IMAX - Indianapolis
Los Angeles, CA - Irvine Spectrum 20 + IMAX - Irvine
Los Angeles, CA - RAVE 18 + IMAX - Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA - Ontario Palace Stadium 22 + IMAX - Ontario
Los Angeles, CA - Citywalk Stadium 19 with IMAX - Universal City
Madison, WI - Star 18 Fitchburg with IMAX - Fitchburg
Miami, FL - AutoNation IMAX - Fort Lauderdale
Minneapolis, MN - Great Clips IMAX - Apple Valley
Montreal, QC - Cinema Banque Scotia Montreal - Montreal
Nashville,TN - Opry Mills Stadium 20 + IMAX - Nashville
New York, NY - Lincoln Square 13 with IMAX - New York
New York, NY - Palisades IMAX - West Nyack
Omaha, NE - Star Cinema 16 with IMAX - Council Bluffs
Orlando, FL - Pointe Orlando Stadium 20 + IMAX - Orlando
Ottawa, ON - Silvercity Gloucester + IMAX - Gloucester
Palm Springs - Desert IMAX Theatre - Cathedral City
Philadelphia, PA - IMAX & the Tropicana - Atlantic City
Philadelphia, PA - Tuttleman IMAX–Franklin Institute - Philadelphia
Phoenix, AZ - Arizona Mills 25 with IMAX - Tempe
Providence, RI - Providence Place 16 with IMAX - Providence
Quebec City, QC - IMAX Le Theatre At Quebec - Quebec City
Sacramento, CA - Esquire IMAX - Sacramento
San Antonio, TX - IMAX at RiverCenter - San Antonio
San Francisco, CA - Metreon 16 with IMAX & ETX - San Francisco
Seattle, WA - Boeing IMAX–Pacific Science Center - Seattle
Tampa, FL - Museum of Science and Industry - Tampa
Toronto, ON - Coliseum 12 Mississauga + IMAX - Mississauga
Toronto, ON - Scotiabank Theatre Toronto + IMAX - Toronto
Toronto, ON - Colossus 18 Woodbridge + IMAX - Woodbridge-Vaughan
Vancouver, BC - Colossus Langley + IMAX - Langley
Vancouver, BC - Silvercity Riverport 18 + IMAX - Richmond

Below is a list of the theatres in the UK in which the Prologue of “The Dark Knight Rises” will be revealed on December 21st:

UK - BFI London - London
UK - National Media Museum IMAX - Bradford
UK - Glasgow Science Centre IMAX Cinema - Glasgow
UK - Odeon Manchester IMAX @ The Printworks - Manchester
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
Dammit, it's not coming anywhere near my damn area... which begs the question... WHY? To be perfectly honest though I would pay just to see the prologue then walk out because I hate the Mission Impossible movies.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on December 08, 2011, 08:13:44 PM
Dammit, it's not coming anywhere near my damn area... which begs the question... WHY?

Because it is only going to play on IMAX screens that have 70mm projectors. Nolan only wanted it shown in 70mm.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 08:56:08 PM
Dammit, it's not coming anywhere near my damn area... which begs the question... WHY?
Because it is only going to play on IMAX screens that have 70mm projectors. Nolan only wanted it shown in 70mm.
Alright, I love Nolan but that's messed up.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on December 08, 2011, 09:05:53 PM
Dammit, it's not coming anywhere near my damn area... which begs the question... WHY?
Because it is only going to play on IMAX screens that have 70mm projectors. Nolan only wanted it shown in 70mm.
Alright, I love Nolan but that's messed up.

It doesn't seem to be playing anywhere in Missouri.  And I know St. Louis and Kansas City have Imax theatres.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 08, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
Dammit, it's not coming anywhere near my damn area... which begs the question... WHY?
Because it is only going to play on IMAX screens that have 70mm projectors. Nolan only wanted it shown in 70mm.
Alright, I love Nolan but that's messed up.
It doesn't seem to be playing anywhere in Missouri.  And I know St. Louis and Kansas City have Imax theatres.
To quote Ted Striker... "What a pisser".
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on December 08, 2011, 09:17:09 PM
Not all IMAX theaters have 70mm projectors.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 09, 2011, 02:07:45 PM
Not all IMAX theaters have 70mm projectors.
If only wishes were horses, then Horses would rule the world.... or Horses and apes.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 10, 2011, 09:03:03 AM
I have an idea. Wait until the full movie is released, that way you can see the first 6 minutes AND the rest of the movie in one sitting. Unless you enjoy being cockteased by Chris Nolan.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/bling529/rooster.jpg)(http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/c/chris-nolan-talks-batman-3-and-more-205-80.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lassieface on December 10, 2011, 10:37:50 AM
I have an idea. Wait until the full movie is released, that way you can see the first 6 minutes AND the rest of the movie in one sitting. Unless you enjoy being cockteased by Chris Nolan.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/bling529/rooster.jpg)(http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/c/chris-nolan-talks-batman-3-and-more-205-80.jpg)

I just realized that Christopher Nolan kind of looks like Crispin Glover.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 10, 2011, 12:38:38 PM
I just realized that Christopher Nolan kind of looks like Crispin Glover.
But only ONE is the real George Mcfly.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lassieface on December 10, 2011, 04:21:11 PM
(http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Dark-Knight-Rises-Teaser-Poster-550x813.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggans on December 10, 2011, 05:06:29 PM
I just realized that Christopher Nolan kind of looks like Crispin Glover.
But only ONE is the real George Mcfly.

And that one is...Jeffery Weissman.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 10, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
(http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Dark-Knight-Rises-Teaser-Poster-550x813.jpg)
I Was Legend?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 10, 2011, 05:09:25 PM
So, Bane's gonna beat his fuckin' ass first? This should be interesting.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 10, 2011, 05:37:10 PM
So, Bane's gonna beat his fuckin' ass first?
Or pound it.

How homoerotic would that poster be if it was the same image in broad, clear daylight? These Bane images strike me as the most fetishistic Bat-villain this side of Schumacher. But I'm not gay, so what do I know?

"That's right, Sutter. NUTHIN!"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 10, 2011, 05:42:12 PM
So, Bane's gonna beat his fuckin' ass first?
Or pound it.

How homoerotic would that poster be if it was the same image in broad, clear daylight? These Bane images strike me as the most fetishistic Bat-villain this side of Schumacher. But I'm not gay, so what do I know?

"That's right, Sutter. NUTHIN!"

(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/37323L.jpg)

"Kiss me like you kissed me that day at Arkham."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on December 10, 2011, 05:49:58 PM
Anyone post this?

http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced-batman-theory-why-nolan-will-kill-bruce-wayne/
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on December 10, 2011, 06:13:27 PM
So, Bane's gonna beat his fuckin' ass first?
Or pound it.

How homoerotic would that poster be if it was the same image in broad, clear daylight? These Bane images strike me as the most fetishistic Bat-villain this side of Schumacher. But I'm not gay, so what do I know?

"That's right, Sutter. NUTHIN!"
well Bane did break batman's back in the comic. he's one of the more successful DC villains.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on December 10, 2011, 07:49:52 PM
he did break batman's back in the comic. he's one of the more successful DC villains.

Only after releasing everyone from Arkham first. Batman had no juice left when Bane struck.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on December 10, 2011, 08:03:17 PM
has arkham been mentioned so far in nolan's films? i forget....
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 10, 2011, 08:35:22 PM
has arkham been mentioned so far in nolan's films? i forget....
Oh hell yes, Falcone was sent there by Doctor Crane in Batman Begins, so was Tony Szaz and of course, Crane himself.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on December 10, 2011, 09:02:09 PM
oh yea, duh. i guess im just used to the more crazy arkham.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on December 10, 2011, 09:46:01 PM
You gotta admit, though, part of Bane's success in Knightfall was just dumb luck.  Batman was already not feeling well when Bane let the prisoners out of Arkham.  If ol' Brucie wasn't under the weather in addition to being exhausted from re-catching all those crooks, it might have been a very different story.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on December 12, 2011, 08:09:19 AM
(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/37323L.jpg)


"I will destroy you!  I will break you!  Next Sunday night, at Wrestlemania, me and my manager Mr. Tajimoto will take the belt and make you wish you hadn't been born!  Isn't that right Tajimoto?"

"For the last time, I'm Clock King.  I'm not even Asian."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 12, 2011, 08:28:24 AM
(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/37323L.jpg)


"I will destroy you!  I will break you!  Next Sunday night, at Wrestlemania, me and my manager Mr. Tajimoto will take the belt and make you wish you hadn't been born!  Isn't that right Tajimoto?"

"For the last time, I'm Clock King.  I'm not even Asian."

I don't even know who Clock King is, and yet I found this quite humorous.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 12, 2011, 08:44:22 AM
Yes, Johnny, who is this Clock King? And one doesn't wake up to find him in their bed, I hope? (The King I refer to, of course, is Burger.)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on December 13, 2011, 12:30:28 PM
Like all Batman villains without super-powers, he's just a guy with an obsession: effective time management!

(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/24948/945903-406415_136948_clock_king_super_large.jpg)

Silly?  Yes, but it's better than his old look.

(http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/Images/Characters/ClockKing.jpg)

Although it does kind of work in the Brave and the Bold (as do all silly things Batman)

(http://images.wikia.com/batman/images/a/a8/Brave-the-bold-clock-king.png)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on December 13, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
Like all Batman villains without super-powers, he's just a guy with an obsession: effective time management!

(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/24948/945903-406415_136948_clock_king_super_large.jpg)



Anyone else think that Clock king and calendar man would make a good team up?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on December 13, 2011, 01:24:49 PM
Like all Batman villains without super-powers, he's just a guy with an obsession: effective time management!

(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/24948/945903-406415_136948_clock_king_super_large.jpg)



Anyone else think that Clock king and calendar man would make a good team up?


They might, at that. 

I'd like to see, like, a one-shot with Harley Quinn and Scarecrow psychoanalyzing/making fun of each other. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 13, 2011, 07:31:16 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on December 13, 2011, 07:34:21 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
"alright who the f*ck let Michael Bay onto the set?"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on December 13, 2011, 07:34:51 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
"alright who the f*ck let Michael Bay onto the set?"
:D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 13, 2011, 07:54:45 PM
Is a Pittsburgh Gotham City going to have the same flavor as a Chicago Gotham City? Considering how much Nolan emphasized real city locations, it seems like moving to a new city might mess with the visual continuity.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 13, 2011, 08:41:41 PM
Or does Nolan just think "All American cities look the same."
Nolan isn't stupid.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 14, 2011, 01:36:19 PM
Or does Nolan just think "All American cities look the same."
Nolan isn't stupid.

Actually, I meant it as joke reversing the "ignorant American" stereotype (so instead of some redneck saying "All [insert minorities] look the same"...). I sure did a poor job indicating so! Especially since the joke was at the tail end of a serious pondering. I'm going to edit my post so my point isn't cheapened by an invisible joke.

This is why I'm not a comedian!

....Okay. I've pared it down to:
Is a Pittsburgh Gotham City going to have the same flavor as a Chicago Gotham City? Considering how much Nolan emphasized real city locations, it seems like moving to a new city might mess with the visual continuity.
Which I am hoping for your thoughts on! Especially anyone who lives in either city. (Starman, you reading this?)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Prince of Space 5049 on December 14, 2011, 06:57:50 PM
I live near Pittsburgh, and given the locations he chose to shoot in, I don't see it being a problem.  If he uses skylines, then yes, it will be time for CGI.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on December 15, 2011, 04:10:40 AM
I like that Bane seems to be evil Batman in a lot of ways, I'm starting to think he might be seen as a hero by the people for at least part of the movie
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 15, 2011, 11:40:15 PM
I like that Bane seems to be evil Batman in a lot of ways, I'm starting to think he might be seen as a hero by the people for at least part of the movie

Well, Batman already does, at times, come off as an annoying do-gooder (think Mason Reese). "Would you stop trying to save these people who are against you?! Just break your fucking rule, and stop growling at me!" It's kind of like Magneto being the antihero of the X-Men series, a lot of people agree more with his point of view.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on December 16, 2011, 03:18:30 AM
Saw the full trailer before Sherlock Holmes tonight.

I am too tired to say much beyond I am really goddamned excited for that movie next year, but... yeah. It'll be online in a few hours probably, and I'll watch it a few dozen more times then (although I will say this now: Bane's voice might start to wear once we watch the whole movie. Just sayin').
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on December 16, 2011, 11:39:28 AM
Of course Pittsburgh is a great choice for Gotham. And I'm not just saying that because I live in the area.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 16, 2011, 09:33:33 PM
Of course Pittsburgh is a great choice for Gotham. And I'm not just saying that because I live in the area.

Did you ever try out as an extra, Starman? Slightly before you disappeared I remember you saying you were considering being a local extra for TDKR.

I live near Pittsburgh, and given the locations he chose to shoot in, I don't see it being a problem.  If he uses skylines, then yes, it will be time for CGI.

Let me rephrase the question. Some critics heavily emphasized The Dark Knight being Chicago (I'm neutral on the issue, btw. I live out in the fucking desert). From Roger Ebert's pissing contest with New York:
Quote
What did the critics have to say about TDK's Gotham City? "Gotham is a cleaner, better-lit place (Foundas, Village Voice). "It's no accident that the skyline of Gotham City figures prominently in so many scenes in 'The Dark Knight'" (Phillips, Onion). "Theirs is the emblematic modern megalopolis (in truth, a cleverly disguised Chicago), soulless, anonymous, a city of distorting and shattering mirrors" (Dargis, New York Times).

"Nolan dispenses with the stylized Gothic sets we're accustomed to in the series: he makes no attempt to hide the fact that Gotham City is modern Chicago" (Anson, Newsweek). "This town," the Joker jokes, "deserves a better class of criminals." (Morgenstern, Wall Street Journal). "Christopher Nolan presents the city as a wilderness of skyscrapers, and a key sequence is set in the still-uncompleted Trump Tower" (Me, Chicago Sun-Times).
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081112/OPINION/811129997 (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081112/OPINION/811129997)

Is there going to be a similar pissing contest between Pittsburgh & Chicago?

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on December 16, 2011, 09:38:29 PM
I do find it funny the Joker says "this city needs a better class of criminal." about Chicago, synonymous with political corruption and gangsters.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on December 16, 2011, 09:47:05 PM
I do find it funny the Joker says "this city needs a better class of criminal." about Chicago, synonymous with political corruption and gangsters.
they need another Al Capone.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on December 18, 2011, 03:48:50 PM
Currently active link to a bootleg of the newest full trailer:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/boxofficebuz/dark-knight-rises-bootlegged-full-trailer-48z2


Best thing about it? When the bootlegger chimes in at the end!

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 19, 2011, 11:04:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/XM6Vs09Vyk0?version=3&hl=en_US


EDIT: 720p now available.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on December 19, 2011, 12:01:43 PM
I noticed that as well, good to see Nolan going back to the topic (it was important in Begins, but I don't recall it being as pertinent a them in Dark Knight).

Also, I will say (again, sorta) that I can understand Bane just fine. That is, in that one line, I understood it no problem the first time I heard it. A full movie of it... we'll see. Still, looks pretty incredible overall, as expected.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Prince of Space 5049 on December 19, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Yup, Heinz field.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 19, 2011, 12:11:57 PM
Yup, Heinz field.

I think that's actually an improvement to that godawful playing surface.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 19, 2011, 12:58:06 PM
That was a bitchin' trailer. For now on, I'm going to say "When Gotham is in ashes, you have my permission to die"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Variety of Cells on December 19, 2011, 06:52:43 PM
That was... a trailer.  But it failed to get my hopes up or to let them down.  I didn't see anything that made me excited to see it or not want to see it.  I am left lukewarm.

There was a cg hole in a football field.  Some buildings getting blown up and random people being thrown around.  A couple punches thrown... nothing that made me excited like the trailers for the Dark Knight.  Maybe they are just really holding back.  Might be the case.

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on December 19, 2011, 07:43:52 PM
So for eight years...Batman won? He cleaned up Gotham...somehow? I am getting the aroma of some serious hand waving bullshit here.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on December 20, 2011, 09:51:14 AM
Of course Pittsburgh is a great choice for Gotham. And I'm not just saying that because I live in the area.

Did you ever try out as an extra, Starman? Slightly before you disappeared I remember you saying you were considering being a local extra for TDKR.

No, but I should have.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 21, 2011, 05:11:25 AM
There was a cg hole in a football field. 

Ooh, do football players & their audience get demolished? Will this movie offer us the jock extermination that The Rock's climax pussied out on?

(Hi. I'm Sutter Cane, and I hate sports.)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on December 21, 2011, 02:02:46 PM
So for eight years...Batman won? He cleaned up Gotham...somehow? I am getting the aroma of some serious hand waving bullshit here.

I don't.  The Giuliani administration took less than that to turn New York City around in the 90s.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 21, 2011, 02:05:43 PM
So for eight years...Batman won? He cleaned up Gotham...somehow? I am getting the aroma of some serious hand waving bullshit here.

I don't.  The Giuliani administration took less than that to turn New York City around in the 90s.

Didn't you hear, APGIL? New York is a seething cesspool of violent crime!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 21, 2011, 02:36:47 PM
'The Dark Knight Rises' Faces Big Problem: Audiences Can't Understand Villain (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dark-knight-rises-christian-bale-batman-tom-hardy-bane-275489)

Quote
Sources say some at Warner Bros. want Christopher Nolan to change the sound mix in response to complaints that Bane's dialogue is hard to hear. But the filmmaker plans only to alter the sound slightly.

Audience interest in next summer’s The Dark Knight Rises is ramping up thanks to Imax screenings of an extended prologue before Mission: Impossible -- Ghost Protocol and the debut online of the film’s trailer  Monday.

But despite the warm reception to the footage, Warner Bros. is running into an unexpected problem, one which is causing some handwringing among executives and others who are working on the movie.

Some audience members are grumbling that they can’t understand what Bane, the main villain in the final installment of the Christopher Nolan-helmed trilogy, is saying. Bane is a bad guy whose super-strength comes from a drug that he continuously inhales. In the prologue, the character, played by British actor Tom Hardy, is seen with a mask that covers his nose and mouth; his speech is garbled and muffled.

“A fantastic action sequence hurt by the fact that you cannot understand the villain at all,” commented Erik Davis on Twitter. Others poked fun at the seven-minute prologue. “The Dark Knight Rises prologue was really great, especially when Bane spoke the soon-to-be-classic line: 'Mmrbl ffrmrff hmrbblfmm,'" wrote one fan.

Fan websites, whose approval is seen in Hollywood as key to building buzz for big superhero tentpole movies, also have not been kind to the sound in the prologue. “We've seen the Dark Knight Rises prologue -- and yes, Bane really does sound that bad,” wrote IO9. The male-oriented site What Would Tyler Durden Do published the prologue’s purported script pages to help shed light on the dialogue. The site’s comment on fan reaction to the footage: “Most people immediately said two things: ‘damn that was bad ass!’ and ‘I have no idea what the f*** was going on!’”

Sources close to the movie say Warner Bros. is very aware of the sound issue. One source working on the film says he is “scared to death” about “the Bane problem.” And with good reason. The last Batman film, 2008’s The Dark Knight, grossed more than $1 billion worldwide, and the studio doesn’t want anything to tamper with Rise’s chances for success.

Sources also say some at Warners would like Nolan to change the sound mix, but the filmmaker, whose autonomy is well-earned (his Inception earned the studio more than $800 million and eight Oscar nominations), has informed executives that he plans only to alter the sound slightly, not to rework it completely.

“Chris wants the audience to catch up and participate rather than push everything at them. He doesn't dumb things down," says one high-level exec, declining to be named. “You've got to pedal faster to keep up.”

Nolan said similar things to The Hollywood Reporter at the prologue’s unveiling during a press event Dec. 8, explaining that it was OK for a moviegoer not to understand what was said at times, as long as the overall idea was conveyed. The filmmaker is currently editing the movie and won't have a cut to show the studio for at least a couple pf months.

While Warners has supported Nolan’s wishes in the past, moviegoer complaints about the character could create pressure to make changes. Or the studio and Nolan can do nothing and hope that fan interest in The Dark Knight Rises outweighs any issues with understanding Bane's dialogue.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on December 21, 2011, 03:29:53 PM
Nolan: "Okay, I guess I'll redub Bane's lines. But what actor in my clubhouse will I get to do it? DiCaprio? Juno?"
Watanabe: "Hi wrillll rue rid! Hri wahsz *grumblely-mumbly* riiinceptishin!"
Nolan: "Sounds good to me!"

Honestly, I think Nolan just needs to get his hearing checked.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on December 21, 2011, 04:04:15 PM
Nolan: "Okay, I guess I'll redub Bane's lines. But what actor in my clubhouse will I get to do it? DiCaprio? Juno?"
Watanabe: "Hi wrillll rue rid! Hri wahsz *grumblely-mumbly* riiinceptishin!"
Nolan: "Sounds good to me!"

Honestly, I think Nolan just needs to get his hearing checked.

Logically speaking, he seems to have excellent hearing and it's the rest of us who need it checked.

D'oh. Change the joke to "Chris Nolan has a mumbling fetish!" then.

Honestly, I had no trouble understanding what Bane (from the trailer) had to say, or Watanabe in Inception or Batman Begins, and I have pretty bad hearing. I guess I'm just practiced at figuring out what people are saying in context.

So it's not really a problem for me, but if the audience really, truly, 100% can not understand the character - which I don't think is the case here - then they should redub it. I think Chris is right in saying that they should "pedal faster to keep up".

Bane being understood perfectly when he's got a metal plate bolted to his mouth would be as ridiculous as Batman growling out every line like he's defending a piece of roadkill.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on December 21, 2011, 06:12:55 PM
I only saw the bootleg of it, so I assume that was some of the problem.

I also find Ian McKellan kind of hard to understands; he really slurs a lot of words, but most other people seem to follow him fine, so who knows. Maybe I'm the deaf one.
*mumble*mumble*mumble*PASS!
Okay, I heard that part.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on December 21, 2011, 08:52:15 PM
How does Bane compare with the Idea Men from the Tick?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 21, 2011, 11:33:19 PM
How does Bane compare with the Idea Men from the Tick?
Bane can tear steel girders in half with his bare feet. Bane can walk on the moon without a spacesuit, Bane can eat facehugger eggs for breakfast with no side effects at all. Bane can sit through all the Twilight movies without getting violently ill.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Variety of Cells on December 22, 2011, 12:12:53 AM
Honestly, I had no trouble understanding what Bane (from the trailer) had to say, or Watanabe in Inception or Batman Begins, and I have pretty bad hearing. I guess I'm just practiced at figuring out what people are saying in context.

So it's not really a problem for me, but if the audience really, truly, 100% can not understand the character - which I don't think is the case here - then they should redub it. I think Chris is right in saying that they should "pedal faster to keep up".


My educated guess is that it's not even a question of re dubbing his lines.  Bane's costume is a sound mixer's dream, because I'm 80% sure they were able to get a wireless little lav mic right in front of his mouth by sticking it inside his mask.  So the raw audio is probably very clear, and the muffledness is put in in post to make it sound like he's wearing a mask.  All Nolan (well, the post sound people with Nolan's permission) has to do is back off on the muffle EQ a little (which it sounds like is what he's planning on doing) and it'll please most people. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: James of LinHood on December 22, 2011, 05:28:21 AM
All Nolan (well, the post sound people with Nolan's permission) has to do is back off on the muffle EQ a little (which it sounds like is what he's planning on doing) and it'll please most people. 

I sure hope that whatever he does works.  I'll tear my hair out in frustration if I have to spend a majority of the movie trying to decipher what Bane is saying.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on December 22, 2011, 06:03:51 AM
The Dark Knight Rises, more mumbling and incoherent raspy talking than any other movie.
Bane:*mumble**mumble**mumble*
Batman *rasp**rasp**rasp*
Bane:*mumble*?
Batman:*rasp**rasp* WHERE ARE THEY?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Prince of Space 5049 on December 22, 2011, 06:39:26 AM
I know, let's get James Earl Jones to do a commanding voice over for Bane.  What?  Oh, never mind.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on December 22, 2011, 08:37:36 AM
How does Bane compare with the Idea Men from the Tick?
Bane can tear steel girders in half with his bare feet. Bane can walk on the moon without a spacesuit, Bane can eat facehugger eggs for breakfast with no side effects at all. Bane can sit through all the Twilight movies without getting violently ill.

I meant in terms of understandability:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afrPV4ONU28 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afrPV4ONU28)

(I couldn't find any clips of just the Idea Men talking, so you're going to have to watch the whole episode to find out what I'm talking about.  Which is why I was hoping someone else would just know what I meant.)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on December 22, 2011, 11:59:53 AM
How does Bane compare with the Idea Men from the Tick?
Bane can tear steel girders in half with his bare feet. Bane can walk on the moon without a spacesuit, Bane can eat facehugger eggs for breakfast with no side effects at all. Bane can sit through all the Twilight movies without getting violently ill.

So in Nolan's vision, Bane gains his strength from Chuck Norris blood?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on December 22, 2011, 01:25:57 PM
How does Bane compare with the Idea Men from the Tick?
Bane can tear steel girders in half with his bare feet. Bane can walk on the moon without a spacesuit, Bane can eat facehugger eggs for breakfast with no side effects at all. Bane can sit through all the Twilight movies without getting violently ill.

So in Nolan's vision, Bane gains his strength from Chuck Norris blood?
In Nolan's movie, the drug Bane pumps into his body is called Charlie Sheen.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 22, 2011, 02:17:27 PM
So in Nolan's vision, Bane gains his strength from Chuck Norris blood?
UMM.. YEAH!  ;D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on December 22, 2011, 06:43:02 PM
How does Bane compare with the Idea Men from the Tick?
Bane can tear steel girders in half with his bare feet. Bane can walk on the moon without a spacesuit, Bane can eat facehugger eggs for breakfast with no side effects at all. Bane can sit through all the Twilight movies without getting violently ill.

So in Nolan's vision, Bane gains his strength from Chuck Norris blood?
In Nolan's movie, the drug Bane pumps into his body is called Charlie Sheen.

Please don't ever use the words "Charlie Sheen" and "pumps" in the same sentence again.

Maybe he meant Christian Slater. As in: Bane "Pumps Up the Volume". He pumps the volume into his body, which results in the super-strength of BVI (Being Verbally Indecipherable).
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on December 23, 2011, 06:27:19 AM
(I couldn't find any clips of just the Idea Men talking, so you're going to have to watch the whole episode to find out what I'm talking about.  Which is why I was hoping someone else would just know what I meant.)

I got it Dalty.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on December 23, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
So in Nolan's vision, Bane gains his strength from Chuck Norris blood?
UMM.. YEAH!  ;D

Chuck Norris doesn't bleed. Hemoglobin flees from his veins.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on December 23, 2011, 04:37:11 PM
Someone made the best trailer for The Dark Knight rises, EVER!!!
http://www.youtube.com/v/KrmEyPkgDf8?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 02, 2012, 12:40:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/nsHfy.jpg)

Better 1, or better 2?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 02, 2012, 01:45:08 PM
having adam west record his voice and putting in the "moves" from the old show, ( including the batusi) would be a great DLC for arkham city. oh wait wrong thread.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 02, 2012, 02:14:45 PM
Someone made the best trailer for The Dark Knight rises, EVER!!!
http://www.youtube.com/v/KrmEyPkgDf8?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0

Yeah i don't care what any body says,I liked Be Kind Rewind.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 05, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YgJid.jpg)

Poor Leo. Forever Alone. Oh, and Ellen Page. Is it too late to shoehorn Ellen Page into TDKR?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 06, 2012, 02:00:28 AM
Poor Leo. Forever Alone. Oh, and Ellen Page. Is it too late to shoehorn Ellen Page into TDKR?
If Batman crashes into an architecture class, she could make a cameo. And there would be endless debate about whether TDKR was a dream.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 06, 2012, 10:27:36 AM
Bane can sit through all the Twilight movies without getting violently ill.

Laughed so hard I peed a little (I didn't I just want to express how much I laughed at that idea)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 06, 2012, 01:58:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YgJid.jpg)

Poor Leo. Forever Alone. Oh, and Ellen Page. Is it too late to shoehorn Ellen Page into TDKR?

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Lots of people bring this up as a knock on Nolan but I have no problem with it.  Lots of directors have a trope of actors they work with over and over because they work well together and it makes the shoot easy.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 06, 2012, 02:48:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YgJid.jpg)

Poor Leo. Forever Alone. Oh, and Ellen Page. Is it too late to shoehorn Ellen Page into TDKR?

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Lots of people bring this up as a knock on Nolan but I have no problem with it.  Lots of directors have a trope of actors they work with over and over because they work well together and it makes the shoot easy.
mel brooks did the same and made a lot of great movies.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 06, 2012, 03:41:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YgJid.jpg)

Poor Leo. Forever Alone. Oh, and Ellen Page. Is it too late to shoehorn Ellen Page into TDKR?

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Lots of people bring this up as a knock on Nolan but I have no problem with it.  Lots of directors have a trope of actors they work with over and over because they work well together and it makes the shoot easy.
mel brooks did the same and made a lot of great movies.

So did Hitchcock.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 06, 2012, 04:35:25 PM
Yep you want to act with people you know you have chemistry with, 'twas ever so, even before we had acting in pictures what move.

I'm definitely in favour of shoe horning Ellen Paige into something.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 06, 2012, 04:48:45 PM
Yep you want to act with people you know you have chemistry with, 'twas ever so, even before we had acting in pictures what move.

I'm definitely in favour of shoe horning Ellen Paige into something.

Yeah i was reading a book the other day that was saying the latest research leads experts to believe that Shakespeare wrote most of his plays to be preformed by the same group of actors and the same actor may have played the leading man in everyone of his plays.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 06, 2012, 05:11:39 PM
Roaring Boys? If not, read that one too.


Yes many of the streets in Stratford are named after members of Shakespeare's troupe (including Richard Burbage, the man who played the protagonist in most of the plays, my #1 girl from back when I was 10 lived in Burbage Avenue).  One of my ancestors was part of that group around the time Middleton was the manager of the company, he played the comedic roles. :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on January 06, 2012, 08:28:48 PM
Yep you want to act with people you know you have chemistry with, 'twas ever so, even before we had acting in pictures what move.

I'm definitely in favour of shoe horning Ellen Paige into something.

You mean shoehorning something into Ellen Page?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 06, 2012, 08:52:12 PM
Roaring Boys? If not, read that one too.


Yes many of the streets in Stratford are named after members of Shakespeare's troupe (including Richard Burbage, the man who played the protagonist in most of the plays, my #1 girl from back when I was 10 lived in Burbage Avenue).  One of my ancestors was part of that group around the time Middleton was the manager of the company, he played the comedic roles. :)

Wow that is cool.

I will have to see if I can find that book.  The book I was reading was just a book with some of the plays in it that had a really long forward that had a bunch of information about Shakespeare and his time in it.  I am going to see if I can get that book out of the library it sounds interesting.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 07, 2012, 07:15:07 AM
Wow that is cool.
A little, my girl Kate had the cooler ancestor though (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Blood).

I will have to see if I can find that book.  The book I was reading was just a book with some of the plays in it that had a really long forward that had a bunch of information about Shakespeare and his time in it.  I am going to see if I can get that book out of the library it sounds interesting.
Here are the two covers I know of:

(http://images.whitcoulls.co.nz/images/ar/97807509/9780750933698/0/0/plain/roaring-boys-shakespeares-rat-pack.jpg)

(http://images.pricerunner.com/product/image/88713810/Roaring-Boys-Shakespeare-s-Rat-Pack.jpg)

The edition I own has the top image but I think the bottom one is from the more recent printings. It goes over a lot of the personalities in the world of theatre during the late Elizabethan and Jacobean period. It's a nice accessible history book that can act (if somebody wants it to) as a springboard for more in-depth reading but doesn't have to and is still a satisfying read. :)

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on January 07, 2012, 08:32:31 AM

mel brooks did the same and made a lot of great movies.

Well, a couple anyway.
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Yup, two is the number I came up with also. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on January 07, 2012, 08:51:38 AM

mel brooks did the same and made a lot of great movies.

Well, a couple anyway.

Yup, two is the number I came up with also. 

Young Frankenstein/Blazing Saddles?

I'd put History of the World in there as "OK".
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We're like twins!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 07, 2012, 08:55:01 AM
no "robin hood, men in tights"? spaceballs?  dracula: dead and loving it?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on January 07, 2012, 08:55:33 AM
No. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 07, 2012, 09:00:05 AM
you have a very strange sense of humor then. to me anyway.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 07, 2012, 12:13:09 PM
Wow that is cool.
A little, my girl Kate had the cooler ancestor though (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Blood).

I will have to see if I can find that book.  The book I was reading was just a book with some of the plays in it that had a really long forward that had a bunch of information about Shakespeare and his time in it.  I am going to see if I can get that book out of the library it sounds interesting.
Here are the two covers I know of:

(http://images.whitcoulls.co.nz/images/ar/97807509/9780750933698/0/0/plain/roaring-boys-shakespeares-rat-pack.jpg)

(http://images.pricerunner.com/product/image/88713810/Roaring-Boys-Shakespeare-s-Rat-Pack.jpg)

The edition I own has the top image but I think the bottom one is from the more recent printings. It goes over a lot of the personalities in the world of theatre during the late Elizabethan and Jacobean period. It's a nice accessible history book that can act (if somebody wants it to) as a springboard for more in-depth reading but doesn't have to and is still a satisfying read. :)



Wow thanks a lot.  I'm off to see if the library has it.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Prince of Space 5049 on January 07, 2012, 03:34:17 PM
I would include "High Anxiety" in that list.  Cloris Leachman kills me in that movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 07, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
I would include "High Anxiety" in that list.  Cloris Leachman kills me in that movie.
i was gonna mention that and "to be or not to be", but i figured if they didnt say the others they wouldnt like those two.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 07, 2012, 07:43:50 PM
I would include "High Anxiety" in that list.  Cloris Leachman kills me in that movie.
i was gonna mention that and "to be or not to be", but i figured if they didnt say the others they wouldnt like those two.

I don't think Mel Brooks directed To Be Or Not To Be. It's funny, though, him & Woody Allen, we're so used to them being director/actors, wouldn't surprise me that people forgot Allen didn't direct Play It Again Sam or Scenes From A Mall (not that the latter begs to be remembered at all).

I think High Anxiety is a transitional film (like a late 70's Yes or Genesis album). It's better than what came afterwards, has some great & hysterical moments, but it's not as consistently good as Blazing Saddles or Young Frankenstein. I definitely agree with you on Cloris Leachman! "Those who are late do not get fruit cup."

I think in the 80's, Brooks' films became more juvenile. I mean, Spaceballs & Robin Hood doesn't exactly possess biting wit, you have to lower your standards to a more generic kind of pop culture silliness. Funny thing about Spaceballs is I don't even think it's that funny, but I enjoy the cinematography. I think, in a way, Spaceballs is the closest Star Wars fans can get to the original versions of the OT. That sandy desert in Spaceballs  looks more like Tattoine than the New Hope Special Edition! And it doesn't hurt that Spaceballs also features 80's ILM special effects that haven't been fucked with.

I think that might even be a secret appeal of Spaceballs, it reminds people of Stars Wars more than Star Wars does. One reviewer pointed out:
Quote
The simplicity of Spaceballs' design, from its economical plot to its archetypal iconography to its spartan sets, is suitably evocative of the least reproducible thing about Star Wars, or anything alchemical: its tone. (http://filmfreakcentral.net/dvdreviews/spaceballs.htm (http://filmfreakcentral.net/dvdreviews/spaceballs.htm))
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 07, 2012, 09:08:46 PM
Spaceballs is only funny in the villain scenes. Most everything about the heroes (sadly, including the normally great John Candy) is embarrasingly bad. Rick Moranis alone makes the movie worth watching though.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 07, 2012, 09:15:23 PM
Spaceballs is only funny in the villain scenes. Most everything about the heroes (sadly, including the normally great John Candy) is embarrasingly bad. Rick Moranis alone makes the movie worth watching though.
from time to time if im watching a movie and somebody says "we need to go faster!" or something like that, i think "LUDICROUS SPEED!"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on January 07, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love Spaceballs through and through (as a kid and now). Yeah, a lot of it is low humor, but it hits just right with me. And I do quote a lot of it frequently (especially the "What happened to then?""We missed it.""When?""Just now"). It's pretty much tied with Blazing Saddles as my favorite Brooks movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 07, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love Spaceballs through and through (as a kid and now). Yeah, a lot of it is low humor, but it hits just right with me. And I do quote a lot of it frequently (especially the "What happened to then?""We missed it.""When?""Just now"). It's pretty much tied with Blazing Saddles as my favorite Brooks movie.

Well, it's different when sentimental value is part of it. Not enough people take sentimental value into account. If someone proceeds to trash a movie after you've told them it had sentimental value or it's a guilty pleasure, then that's just rude! What I really hate is when people try to logically argue the faults of something that's clearly not up for debate. "Everything you liked as a kid is crap, and I want to ruin any fond memories you have."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 08, 2012, 09:59:15 AM
Wow that is cool.
A little, my girl Kate had the cooler ancestor though (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Blood).

I will have to see if I can find that book.  The book I was reading was just a book with some of the plays in it that had a really long forward that had a bunch of information about Shakespeare and his time in it.  I am going to see if I can get that book out of the library it sounds interesting.
Here are the two covers I know of:

(http://images.whitcoulls.co.nz/images/ar/97807509/9780750933698/0/0/plain/roaring-boys-shakespeares-rat-pack.jpg)

(http://images.pricerunner.com/product/image/88713810/Roaring-Boys-Shakespeare-s-Rat-Pack.jpg)

The edition I own has the top image but I think the bottom one is from the more recent printings. It goes over a lot of the personalities in the world of theatre during the late Elizabethan and Jacobean period. It's a nice accessible history book that can act (if somebody wants it to) as a springboard for more in-depth reading but doesn't have to and is still a satisfying read. :)



Wow thanks a lot.  I'm off to see if the library has it.

Well my library didn't have a copy so I just ordered one off of amazon.  I can't wait,thanks for telling me about this book.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 10, 2012, 04:25:11 PM
What does any of this have to do with The Dark Knight Rises?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 10, 2012, 04:31:22 PM
What does any of this have to do with The Dark Knight Rises?

Christian Bale IS Dark Helmet
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 10, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
Based on how pale he is generally, I doubt it ...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 10, 2012, 04:43:59 PM
What does any of this have to do with The Dark Knight Rises?

Christian Bale IS Dark Helmet
O i c. Unfortunately Mel Brooks is probably too over the hill to make another parody film.  :(
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 10, 2012, 04:49:16 PM
What does any of this have to do with The Dark Knight Rises?

Christian Bale IS Dark Helmet
Now I'm just picturing Rick Moranis wigging out over some lighting technition.  :D

I'm surrounded by assholes!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Hebs on January 11, 2012, 09:01:41 AM
What does any of this have to do with The Dark Knight Rises?

Christian Bale IS Dark Helmet
O i c. Unfortunately Mel Brooks is probably too over the hill to make another parody film.  :(

It hasn't stopped him for the past 35 years.

And then he can make a musical about his parody movie and then a movie musical of his musical movie parody!! 

INCEPTION
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 11, 2012, 08:30:40 PM
What does any of this have to do with The Dark Knight Rises?

Christian Bale IS Dark Helmet
O i c. Unfortunately Mel Brooks is probably too over the hill to make another parody film.  :(

It hasn't stopped him for the past 35 years.

And then he can make a musical about his parody movie and then a movie musical of his musical movie parody!! 

INCEPTION

And Nathan Lane's the spinning top?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 11, 2012, 08:43:57 PM
I had a dream last night where Bane said to Captain Picard "When the Federation is in ashes... you have my permission to die."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 13, 2012, 01:15:00 PM
Poor Leo. Forever Alone. Oh, and Ellen Page. Is it too late to shoehorn Ellen Page into TDKR?
Leo has more money than God. I think he'll survive Barnes.  ;D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 13, 2012, 01:16:12 PM
Um, stuff.

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/dark-knight-rises-ew-1.jpg)

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/01/12/dark-knight-rises-ew-2.jpg)

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/01/12/dark-knight-rises-ew-3.jpg)

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/01/12/dark-knight-rises-ew-4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 13, 2012, 01:36:55 PM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/402341_2809306325296_1637871610_2487166_1855936200_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 13, 2012, 04:49:10 PM
I am so not feeling this movie. At all.
I was dubious about Batman begins, then I saw it and all my doubts were erased. Same thing happened with The Dark knight...
Something tells me this is going to be the feel-good movie of the year... isn't that ironic?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 13, 2012, 06:09:53 PM
I am so not feeling this movie. At all.
its like that book that left a bad taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 13, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
I am so not feeling this movie. At all.
its like that book that left a bad taste in my mouth.
You mean Bad Taste the book by Peter Jackson?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 13, 2012, 08:11:21 PM
I am so not feeling this movie. At all.
its like that book that left a bad taste in my mouth.
You mean Bad Taste the book by Peter Jackson?
no that was the song that stunk.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 13, 2012, 08:30:59 PM
Well, I just got through watching the first six minutes of TDKR... and holy shit that was pretty amazing.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on January 13, 2012, 08:41:21 PM
Trying hard to keep my expectations under control  :-X
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 13, 2012, 09:13:08 PM
That is what I am trying to do as well. As much as I have really liked both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, and I think Nolan is a great director who won't let me down, I would rather keep my expectations relatively low and be impressed, than go in expecting perfection and being a little dissapointed.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Prince of Space 5049 on January 14, 2012, 07:31:24 AM
Please, just as long as the series doesn't end like this

(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k500/PrinceofSpace5150/8f5e68419fb6f47ceeb5ce919985e17b1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 14, 2012, 08:41:13 AM
I have to say there are almost too many movies coming out that look good to me.  This,The Hobbit,and The Avengers.  Hollywood is going to be getting a lot of my money this year.  Everything I see makes me think this movie is going to be the best Batman movie yet.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 14, 2012, 09:25:05 AM
Say what you want out this movie at least it doesn't have one of these guy as a villain.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19638_6-insane-batman-villains-you-wont-see-in-movies.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module (http://www.cracked.com/article_19638_6-insane-batman-villains-you-wont-see-in-movies.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module)

I think Crazy Quilt would make a good Venture Brothers villain,I wonder if DC would let them use him.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 14, 2012, 10:58:05 PM
Say what you want out this movie at least it doesn't have one of these guy as a villain.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19638_6-insane-batman-villains-you-wont-see-in-movies.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module (http://www.cracked.com/article_19638_6-insane-batman-villains-you-wont-see-in-movies.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module)

I think Crazy Quilt would make a good Venture Brothers villain,I wonder if DC would let them use him.
Goddamn, the RAINBOW CREATURE?! That's too campy even for the original Batman series.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 15, 2012, 08:02:25 AM
Say what you want out this movie at least it doesn't have one of these guy as a villain.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19638_6-insane-batman-villains-you-wont-see-in-movies.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module (http://www.cracked.com/article_19638_6-insane-batman-villains-you-wont-see-in-movies.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module)

I think Crazy Quilt would make a good Venture Brothers villain,I wonder if DC would let them use him.
Goddamn, the RAINBOW CREATURE?! That's too campy even for the original Batman series.

I know. I have no idea what the writers were thinking when they came up with him.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 15, 2012, 08:06:21 AM
I know. I have no idea what the writers were thinking when they came up with him.
* Comics are silly
* Kids'll buy it no matter what
* Kids like bright colours

Similar thinking went into making Jimmy Olsen a gorilla once a quarter....
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 15, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
I know. I have no idea what the writers were thinking when they came up with him.
* Comics are silly
* Kids'll buy it no matter what
* Kids like bright colours
Similar thinking went into making Jimmy Olsen a gorilla once a quarter....
Now I have to admit, if Jimmy was transformed into the wondrous Magilla Gorilla and stayed that way, that would have been genius... or hell, even Gorilla Grodd would have actually made even more sense than that, but it wouldn't have been as awesome.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 15, 2012, 12:36:15 PM
I know. I have no idea what the writers were thinking when they came up with him.
* Comics are silly
* Kids'll buy it no matter what
* Kids like bright colours
More like...crap, we need an idea for an issue this month.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 15, 2012, 12:40:11 PM
See bullet point one.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 15, 2012, 03:01:24 PM
More like...crap, we need an idea for an issue this month.
Batman tracks down the idiots who made that horrible salsa that came from... NEW YORK CITY?!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 15, 2012, 03:03:53 PM
he carried over into TV as well.
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/74139/1458615-fireflyrainbowcreature_super.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 15, 2012, 03:42:28 PM
he carried over into TV as well.
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/74139/1458615-fireflyrainbowcreature_super.jpg)
And who's the other guy? THe Fantastic Four?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on January 15, 2012, 05:22:08 PM
he carried over into TV as well.
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/74139/1458615-fireflyrainbowcreature_super.jpg)
And who's the other guy? THe Fantastic Four?

Freak Flag
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 15, 2012, 05:30:46 PM
anybody think Nolan will kill off batman in this one?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 15, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
I'm 99% sure that is how it will end.  No way he is letting Batman just walk away from this one. The only way it will not end that way is if Warner Brothers stops him.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 15, 2012, 05:39:02 PM
anybody think Nolan will kill off batman in this one?
Nope. Bruce Wayne OTOH...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 15, 2012, 05:42:00 PM
I get that feeling too. And while normally I would say that Warner Brothers wouldn't do that, they know that a reboot of some kind is the next step. Particularly with them making what will hopefully be a sucessful Superman movie, I am sure they are thinking crossover. And the Nolan Batman does not play well with others.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 15, 2012, 06:07:57 PM
I get that feeling too. And while normally I would say that Warner Brothers wouldn't do that, they know that a reboot of some kind is the next step. Particularly with them making what will hopefully be a successful Superman movie, I am sure they are thinking crossover. And the Nolan Batman does not play well with others.
A Superman/Batman movie? Fan boy's dream come true, but there's no way they could make a feasible movie out of that.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on January 15, 2012, 06:26:19 PM
I get that feeling too. And while normally I would say that Warner Brothers wouldn't do that, they know that a reboot of some kind is the next step. Particularly with them making what will hopefully be a successful Superman movie, I am sure they are thinking crossover. And the Nolan Batman does not play well with others.
A Superman/Batman movie? Fan boy's dream come true, but there's no way they could make a feasible movie out of that.
there are quite a few instances within the comic realm of a superman batman crossover ( and if they got their act together they might be able to produce a justice league movie). the key is to STAY FAITHFUL TO THE COMIC STORY ARC and to HIRE COMPETENT ACTORS.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 15, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
I get that feeling too. And while normally I would say that Warner Brothers wouldn't do that, they know that a reboot of some kind is the next step. Particularly with them making what will hopefully be a successful Superman movie, I am sure they are thinking crossover. And the Nolan Batman does not play well with others.
A Superman/Batman movie? Fan boy's dream come true, but there's no way they could make a feasible movie out of that.
I think they could. As long as they embrace their differences and their approaches to crime fighting, there is inherant drama there if done well.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on January 15, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
I get that feeling too. And while normally I would say that Warner Brothers wouldn't do that, they know that a reboot of some kind is the next step. Particularly with them making what will hopefully be a successful Superman movie, I am sure they are thinking crossover. And the Nolan Batman does not play well with others.
A Superman/Batman movie? Fan boy's dream come true, but there's no way they could make a feasible movie out of that.
I think they could. As long as they embrace their differences and their approaches to crime fighting, there is inherant drama there if done well.

I think that'll definitely be the case. The announced reboot of the series is to be in line with a Justice League movie, so at some point Superman and Batman will be on screen together: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/mar/30/dark-knight-rises-batman-christopher-nolan
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Variety of Cells on January 15, 2012, 10:43:56 PM
I get that feeling too. And while normally I would say that Warner Brothers wouldn't do that, they know that a reboot of some kind is the next step. Particularly with them making what will hopefully be a successful Superman movie, I am sure they are thinking crossover. And the Nolan Batman does not play well with others.
A Superman/Batman movie? Fan boy's dream come true, but there's no way they could make a feasible movie out of that.
I think they could. As long as they embrace their differences and their approaches to crime fighting, there is inherant drama there if done well.
.

I think that'll definitely be the case. The announced reboot of the series is to be in line with a Justice League movie, so at some point Superman and Batman will be on screen together: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/mar/30/dark-knight-rises-batman-christopher-nolan

This bothers me. After watching the Captain America Rifftrax, it seemed that the whole plot of the movie was 'get captain America into the future so we can get it over with and make an avengers movie already'. It felt like it was made because people felt it had to be made to get to something good.  Would be a shame if that happened to batman
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 16, 2012, 05:08:07 AM
I get that feeling too. And while normally I would say that Warner Brothers wouldn't do that, they know that a reboot of some kind is the next step. Particularly with them making what will hopefully be a successful Superman movie, I am sure they are thinking crossover. And the Nolan Batman does not play well with others.
A Superman/Batman movie? Fan boy's dream come true, but there's no way they could make a feasible movie out of that.
I think they could. As long as they embrace their differences and their approaches to crime fighting, there is inherant drama there if done well.
.

I think that'll definitely be the case. The announced reboot of the series is to be in line with a Justice League movie, so at some point Superman and Batman will be on screen together: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/mar/30/dark-knight-rises-batman-christopher-nolan

This bothers me. After watching the Captain America Rifftrax, it seemed that the whole plot of the movie was 'get captain America into the future so we can get it over with and make an avengers movie already'. It felt like it was made because people felt it had to be made to get to something good.  Would be a shame if that happened to batman

Really?  I didn't get that at all.  The whole story of the movie was about Captain America in WW2,the future had nothing to do with it.  There were two scenes that took place in the present day and they both took place completely outside of the main story.  In fact you could chop both of them off and the movie would work just fine,it would just be about a hero who gives his life in his mission this time.  You could cut from the kids playing with the shield and instead of fading to the present day fade to the credits and you would still have one of the best superhero movies ever made IMO.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 16, 2012, 06:23:06 AM
I agree. I think the only thing they really hurt themselves with was that we don't know how long he fought in WW2. It only seemed like a few months. And he was fighting Hydra that whole time. If they do a Captain America 2, I really want to see more of that time period, not him in the present. So it seems like there isn't that much time for them to have a full movie that takes place with him fighting in WW2 and before he got frozen.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Variety of Cells on January 16, 2012, 08:25:14 AM
I didn't care for Captain America, and I don't care for a majority of super hero movies, which is probably where we disagree most. Since I didn't care for the movie, to me it seemed to be a very formulaic film with not much care put into any of the other characters. It seemed like they didn't want to spend too much time with any other supporting characters because they would never be seen again after this film. If you enjoyed the film you aren't going to agree with that which is quite understandable and acceptable and not much reason to get much more off the topic of batman... In my opinion.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 16, 2012, 09:09:46 AM
I agree. I think the only thing they really hurt themselves with was that we don't know how long he fought in WW2. It only seemed like a few months. And he was fighting Hydra that whole time. If they do a Captain America 2, I really want to see more of that time period, not him in the present. So it seems like there isn't that much time for them to have a full movie that takes place with him fighting in WW2 and before he got frozen.

I think the movie started in 43(we were in Italy at the start of the movie)so I am pretty sure the whole ware was covered if you figure that he was created in 43,went on tour,and then went on the missions against Hydra in 44 that pretty much covers the whole war. We were only really in it for about 4 years so I figured that was the period covered by the film.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 17, 2012, 01:41:45 PM
This is pretty cool.

http://www.youtube.com/v/h1BOacY5eME?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 17, 2012, 01:45:29 PM
I still think that "When Gotham is in ashes..." line is screamingly camp.

La
Dee
Dah
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 17, 2012, 01:49:28 PM
I still think that "When Gotham is in ashes..." line is screamingly camp.

La
Dee
Dah
The line reminds me of the one in Van Helsing when one of the vampire brides says "I say when you can go. And I say you can go when you are DEAD!"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 17, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
I still think that "When Gotham is in ashes..." line is screamingly camp.

La
Dee
Dah
I get the meaning though, he knows Batman cares about Gotham city, and he won't let him  die until the whole city and its inhabitants are all dead and gone.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 17, 2012, 03:03:25 PM
Or "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum. Also, put on these glasses."
If you're implying Bane is some kind of Duke Nukem wannabe.... I'm actually okay with that. I relish in my imagination a moment where he says to Batman "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck... oh, I'm sorry, I don't mean shit, I mean GUANO"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 17, 2012, 03:48:15 PM
I still think that "When Gotham is in ashes..." line is screamingly camp.

La
Dee
Dah
I get the meaning though, he knows Batman cares about Gotham city, and he won't let him  die until the whole city and its inhabitants are all dead and gone.
And the only sensible response to gradiosity on that level is to snigger and say "you go girl!" or similar.

I have great difficulty taking things like this seriously.  :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 17, 2012, 04:12:41 PM
If it had been anyone but Bane, I think I'd be interested.  I really hate that character. Dig up Vincent Price even and have his skeletal form as Egg-Head and I'd be more interested.

You hate the actual character?!? Or are you basing your knowledge of Bane on the Schumacher film??

Don't get me wrong, he's not my favourite by far, but he is really the only villain to actually massively defeat Batman... and his story arch was actually very interesting.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 17, 2012, 04:47:42 PM
RAR! BANE BAD!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Invader_quirk on January 17, 2012, 04:48:45 PM
RAR! BANE BAD!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 17, 2012, 05:09:27 PM
RAR! BANE BAD!

Except I explained exactly why he's terrible. He says "might is better than wit or intelligence in Batman's world."  I didn't just say RAR.  That is, in fact, what Bane would do.

I dunno, I always found Bane to be rather intelligent, which is why I was so pissed at the "RAWR! BANE!" take on him in Batman And Arnold.

But hey, to each his own.... Personally, I always loved The Mad Hatter.  And for a GOOD Freeze movie, watch SubZero
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 17, 2012, 05:16:08 PM
King Tut could so be made to work in a Nolan Gotham, really he could.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 17, 2012, 05:19:51 PM
Sure, they're both fine (Mr Freeze is awesome in all those animated incarnations). Not sure the Mad Hatter would work that well on screen, but I do like him.  I like the Clock King, I even like the weird villains like the little tiny mob boss, the ventriloquist guy.  Even Crane is cool--not so much the androgynous, mildly slimy Crane of the first Batman movie, but the one in BTAS is awesome.  I just think Bane is a copout, a product of '90s EXTREME MOUNTAIN DEW thinking.

OMG The Clock King is one of my favourites.... although I think he originated against a different superhero, and not Batman... which made me sad, because he's so good against the bat.

I think my personal anger against the ruined "knowledge" of Bane caused by Schumuncher is one of the real reasons I was happy Nolan chose him.  Then maybe people will at least know who the character really is, instead of him just being the Hulk.   Also, it's a good way to ensure they don't continue on this same Batman without him (Nolan)!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BBQ Platypus on January 17, 2012, 06:27:21 PM
Condiment King.  Make it happen.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 17, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Condiment King.  Make it happen.

But make sure he is dark and gritty so he is true to his roots. Don't let him become a joke.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BBQ Platypus on January 17, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
Join us, won't we? (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Condiment-King-for-Batman-4/310651468978362)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 17, 2012, 08:48:27 PM
I just think Bane is a copout, a product of '90s EXTREME MOUNTAIN DEW thinking.
I think I know why he was needed though, because we need a villain who can actually stand toe to toe physically with Batman, and the tension is in part due to the risk of death(from a direct face to face confrontation) to Batman, something he's never had to face before. Yes, Ra's Al Ghul was strong, but in the end, Batman didn't have too much trouble overcoming him.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: daltysmilth on January 17, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
I just think Bane is a copout, a product of '90s EXTREME MOUNTAIN DEW thinking.
I think I know why he was needed though, because we need a villain who can actually stand toe to toe physically with Batman, and the tension is in part due to the risk of death(from a direct face to face confrontation) to Batman, something he's never had to face before. Yes, Ra's Al Ghul was strong, but in the end, Batman didn't have too much trouble overcoming him.

Well, to be more accurate, the point was to create a villain who was a physical AND mental match for the Batman.  Though I still call foul on his victory in Knightfall, because he wasn't facing Batman at his best.  I'm not talking about him being tired from having to recapture every villain from Arkham.  That's just par for the course for Batman.  I'm talking about the fact that in addition to having to recapture every villain from Arkham, Batman was also sick.  (He had a cold, if memory serves.)  If Batman had just been tired from having to recapture every villain from Arkham, Bane wouldn't have stood a chance.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 18, 2012, 11:55:22 AM
See, Superman never gets colds or Pan Fharrs or anything of that nature



I just wanted to say the plural of Pan Farr
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 18, 2012, 12:01:52 PM
Superman can't have sex with a normal woman. He'd blow his load like a shotgun through her back.

I would have been ok with that happening to the last chick who played Lois...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 18, 2012, 12:04:07 PM
Superman can't have sex with a normal woman. He'd blow his load like a shotgun through her back.

 :gouge:

Why would you even think about that?  I think I am going to be sick.
 :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 18, 2012, 12:07:23 PM
Superman can't have sex with a normal woman. He'd blow his load like a shotgun through her back.

 :gouge:

Why would you even think about that?  I think I am going to be sick.
 :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge:

He didn't http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113749/
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on January 18, 2012, 12:50:24 PM
Superman can't have sex with a normal woman. He'd blow his load like a shotgun through her back.

 :gouge:

Why would you even think about that?  I think I am going to be sick.
 :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge:

He didn't http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113749/


He didn't either.  Larry Niven did. http://www.redboots.net/comics/moswok.htm (http://www.redboots.net/comics/moswok.htm)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on January 18, 2012, 01:48:15 PM
Superman can't have sex with a normal woman. He'd blow his load like a shotgun through her back.

 :gouge:

Why would you even think about that?  I think I am going to be sick.
 :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge: :gouge:

He didn't http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113749/


He didn't either.  Larry Niven did. http://www.redboots.net/comics/moswok.htm (http://www.redboots.net/comics/moswok.htm)

There's also some very NSFW pictures drawn by Curt Swan that pertain to this article.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on January 18, 2012, 01:52:30 PM
Correct. You can thank Kevin Smith for that.

You are both wrong!  If only my previous replies weren't tagged as spam!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on January 18, 2012, 02:21:59 PM
Thanks you, MODS! 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 18, 2012, 05:51:53 PM
Thanks you, MODS! 

Well fuck I think mine is now spam-marked.

**GASP** Rifftrax Forum Mods must approve of SOPA!! How dare they?!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 18, 2012, 06:05:05 PM
Thanks you, MODS! 
Well fuck I think mine is now spam-marked.
**GASP** Rifftrax Forum Mods must approve of SOPA!! How dare they?!
Pants to be darkened!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 18, 2012, 06:07:09 PM
Pants to be darkened!
:D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 18, 2012, 06:19:42 PM
Pants to be darkened!
:D
Is it ironic that that could become a meme before too long if it isn't already?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 18, 2012, 06:55:35 PM
Superman can't have sex with a normal woman. He'd blow his load like a shotgun through her back.

Imagine Hulk. One load could've drowned and/or impaled Jennifer Connelly. How many inflatable pools could the Hulk's load fill....

To be on topic I could say "imagine Bane", but Tom Hardy's already exposed himself in a number of films. I guess his Bane will kind of be like Bronson minus the naked crisco-slathered combat?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggans on January 18, 2012, 08:57:55 PM
Depends how concerned he his about his size, I guess.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 18, 2012, 10:54:56 PM
Well Hulk isn't doing his nailing while Hulking, is he?

I haven't looked into the expanded universe, so I can't say for sure.  ;)

OT: Do genitals even exist in the Star Wars universe?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scribblesense on January 18, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
Well Hulk isn't doing his nailing while Hulking, is he?

I haven't looked into the expanded universe, so I can't say for sure.  ;)

OT: Do genitals even exist in the Star Wars universe?

(http://www.kristiangoddard.net/1059.jpg)

The answer to your question is a big, firm, shiny yes.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 19, 2012, 08:02:58 AM
What is wrong with you?  :speechless:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on January 19, 2012, 10:22:19 AM
Well Hulk isn't doing his nailing while Hulking, is he?

Actually, yes, but the girls that I know of were a demonic universal conqueror Umar (browbeating sister to the Dread Dormammu) and an uber-powerful alien whose name escapes me.

They had a son, whose aged accelerated and eventually found his way to Earth.

(http://skew.dailyskew.com/uploaded_images/SkaarSonOfHulk_01-736870.jpg)

So yes, the Hulk has gotten busy, but only with women who could survive it.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/6prbeq.png)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 19, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
Imagine Hulk. One load could've drowned and/or impaled Jennifer Connelly. How many inflatable pools could the Hulk's load fill....

OMFG, I would SO love to drown and/or impale Jennifer Connelly with my load.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 19, 2012, 11:54:41 AM
Imagine Hulk. One load could've drowned and/or impaled Jennifer Connelly. How many inflatable pools could the Hulk's load fill....

OMFG, I would SO love to drown and/or impale Jennifer Connelly with my load.


 :gouge:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 19, 2012, 11:57:43 AM
Imagine Hulk. One load could've drowned and/or impaled Jennifer Connelly. How many inflatable pools could the Hulk's load fill....

OMFG, I would SO love to drown and/or impale Jennifer Connelly with my load.

 :gouge:

You're welcome.  I do what I can.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 19, 2012, 01:16:24 PM
You're welcome.  I do what I can.
Jennifer said she was going to meet me for a date last night but didn't show!! DAMMIT!
Jennifer conned a me!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 19, 2012, 01:22:03 PM
You're welcome.  I do what I can.
Jennifer said she was going to meet me for a date last night but didn't show!! DAMMIT!
Jennifer conned a me!!!!  ;D

Good lord. Something that bad deserves vintage Keyboard Cat. Play him off, Johnny!

(http://i.imgur.com/oDQle.gif)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 19, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
You're welcome.  I do what I can.
Jennifer said she was going to meet me for a date last night but didn't show!! DAMMIT!
Jennifer conned a me!!!!  ;D

Good lord. Something that bad deserves vintage Keyboard Cat. Play him off, Johnny!

(http://i.imgur.com/oDQle.gif)
:D That is awesome.  :highfive:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 19, 2012, 05:15:00 PM
Imagine Hulk. One load could've drowned and/or impaled Jennifer Connelly. How many inflatable pools could the Hulk's load fill....

OMFG, I would SO love to drown and/or impale Jennifer Connelly with my load.

Typical Labyrinth fan.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 19, 2012, 05:51:32 PM
Typical Labyrinth fan.

Actually, never been a fan of Labyrinth.  Only ever sat through it once, really.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 19, 2012, 10:41:13 PM
Typical Labyrinth fan.

Actually, never been a fan of Labyrinth.  Only ever sat through it once, really.
Hah, same here. I just remember finding it a bit... unsavory the way the adult David Bowie lusted after jail bait Jennifer.

So, what Connelly films arouse your Spooge Bath / Impalement fantasy? Dark City era? House of Sand & Fog? Or does it all go back to Hulk?

(This thread is turning into some sort of deranged psychoanalysis session. There are sticky ids all over the place.)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 19, 2012, 11:03:09 PM
Typical Labyrinth fan.

Actually, never been a fan of Labyrinth.  Only ever sat through it once, really.
Hah, same here. I just remember finding it a bit... unsavory the way the adult David Bowie lusted after jail bait Jennifer.

So, what Connelly films arouse your Spooge Bath / Impalement fantasy? Dark City era? House of Sand & Fog? Or does it all go back to Hulk?

(This thread is turning into some sort of deranged psychoanalysis session. There are sticky ids all over the place.)

I'd have to say Jennifer in The Rocketeer does it for me quite well.... and really I dig her in pretty much anything, and I'd totally dig myself into her as well.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 20, 2012, 08:05:21 AM
Dark Crystal es el Diablo!  :speechless:
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on January 20, 2012, 11:56:20 AM
Dark Crystal es el Diablo!  :speechless:

Yeah not fond of Dark Crystal either.... or Neverending Story.  I think I'm generally not all that huge on most child-based fantasy movies.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Invader_quirk on January 20, 2012, 01:03:12 PM
Labyrinth didn't hold my attention for the runtime. The music was too atrocious. I seriously think it single-handedly ruined the entire movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 20, 2012, 01:20:31 PM
Labyrinth didn't hold my attention for the runtime. The music was too atrocious. I seriously think it single-handedly ruined the entire movie.
David Bowie's crotch allegedly and ironically held the female audience's attention.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: anais.jude on January 20, 2012, 01:28:10 PM
Labyrinth didn't hold my attention for the runtime. The music was too atrocious. I seriously think it single-handedly ruined the entire movie.
David Bowie's crotch allegedly and ironically held the female audience's attention.

No, it's true. Oh it's damn true
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 20, 2012, 01:47:48 PM
No, it's true. Oh it's damn true
Then maybe you'll like Jew Wario.  ;D
(http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Untitled1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Watchman on January 20, 2012, 03:41:20 PM
David Bowie's crotch allegedly and ironically held the female audience's attention.

No, it's true. Oh it's damn true

Even as Pontius Pilate from The Last Temptation of Christ?
(http://www.oddfilms.com/blog/media/last-temptation-bowie.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on January 20, 2012, 08:19:32 PM
No, it's true. Oh it's damn true
Then maybe you'll like Jew Wario.  ;D
(http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Untitled1.jpg)
:D Trying to find a picture of him in Suburban Knights with the crotch flare, but I can't.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on January 21, 2012, 09:45:13 AM
:D Trying to find a picture of him in Suburban Knights with the crotch flare, but I can't.
All the people who hate Suburban knights(which are probably few and far between) seem to ONLY complain about the crotch flare. Except Marzgurl, Obscurus Lupa and Nostalgia Chick. For some reason they like huge penises... I don't know why.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on January 23, 2012, 01:25:41 PM
David Bowie's crotch allegedly and ironically held the female audience's attention.

No, it's true. Oh it's damn true

Even as Pontius Pilate from The Last Temptation of Christ?
(http://www.oddfilms.com/blog/media/last-temptation-bowie.jpg)
That's a quintessential example of a film being nothing like as good as the book.

But then Kazanstakis, who I love, is hell to adapt. Though Pulp didn't do a bad version of Zorba:

http://www.youtube.com/v/DqgXzPfAxjo

;)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Ben on January 26, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
I'm a little worried about Bane, to be honest. I can't help but be reminded of a remark by Mike from the Film Crew commentary of KILLERS FROM SPACE:

"Here's another directing tip, put your lead actor in a giant face mask. Have him mumble through it."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on February 01, 2012, 09:09:17 PM
I get that feeling too. And while normally I would say that Warner Brothers wouldn't do that, they know that a reboot of some kind is the next step. Particularly with them making what will hopefully be a successful Superman movie, I am sure they are thinking crossover. And the Nolan Batman does not play well with others.
A Superman/Batman movie? Fan boy's dream come true, but there's no way they could make a feasible movie out of that.
there are quite a few instances within the comic realm of a superman batman crossover ( and if they got their act together they might be able to produce a justice league movie). the key is to STAY FAITHFUL TO THE COMIC STORY ARC and to HIRE COMPETENT ACTORS.

What "comic story arc" are you referring to? That story has been re-told a dozen times in the comics (in fact, it's being re-told right now in the rebooted Justice League comic).
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: shodan on February 01, 2012, 10:15:27 PM
i meant just generally to whatever crossover arc they choose to base the movie off of.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 30, 2012, 11:54:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ONebtUty3AI?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on March 30, 2012, 03:33:56 PM
A side benefit of doing extra work I suppose, my friend Jim also got to be legoised. :)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/TripeHoundRedux/Untitled-5.png)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on March 30, 2012, 09:16:44 PM
Or "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum. Also, put on these glasses."
If you're implying Bane is some kind of Duke Nukem wannabe....
It saddens me when someone attributes that line to Duke.  Especially since the glasses line is right there as a guide.

Damn, now I wanna watch They Live again, and it's still 4 hours until I leave for home.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 11, 2012, 01:17:54 PM
New photo of Catwoman.

(http://i.imgur.com/zeZ9A.png)

It was so thoughtful of the studio to release such a clean cutout. Makes it very easy to shop that right into your personal photos. Eh? Eh?!?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on April 11, 2012, 01:21:13 PM
Catwoman is going to be the new RVR II
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on April 11, 2012, 02:03:50 PM
It looks like they Photoshopped her butt.  (kinda blurry and stretched there)

I'd photoshop the HELL out of her butt...












...sexually.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 11, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/OM6CL.jpg)

Introducing Catwoman, with optional NoButt™, RegularButt™, and JunkInTheTrunk™*

Photoshop...for all your butt needs.


*Each butt sold separately.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on April 11, 2012, 02:50:40 PM
It looks like they Photoshopped her butt.  (kinda blurry and stretched there)


It only looks that way because you've gone cross-eyed from staring at it for too long.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: doggans on April 11, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
For all the "this is the serious Batman now" attitude of the Nolanverse...I actually like the Newmar-Kitt-Merriwether-esque take on the costume.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 12, 2012, 05:36:18 PM
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/04/12/dark-knight-rises-ew-01.jpg)

Is that an iPad?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on April 12, 2012, 05:55:54 PM
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/04/12/dark-knight-rises-ew-01.jpg)

Yes, don't worry, I'll save you in a moment citizen, let me just try...oh BULLSHIT!  I hate the boomerang ones.  Hold on now...NO!  There is no way a cowboy hat would save that pig if a boulder fell on him, I hate this game!  Look, just wait two more minutes, okay, I gotta three star this.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on April 14, 2012, 07:21:22 AM
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/04/12/dark-knight-rises-ew-01.jpg)

Yes, don't worry, I'll save you in a moment citizen, let me just try...oh BULLSHIT!  I hate the boomerang ones.  Hold on now...NO!  There is no way a cowboy hat would save that pig if a boulder fell on him, I hate this game!  Look, just wait two more minutes, okay, I gotta three star this.

Please tell me you will be doing an iRiff of this movie once it comes to DvD.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on April 14, 2012, 08:44:48 AM
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/04/12/dark-knight-rises-ew-01.jpg)

Yes, don't worry, I'll save you in a moment citizen, let me just try...oh BULLSHIT!  I hate the boomerang ones.  Hold on now...NO!  There is no way a cowboy hat would save that pig if a boulder fell on him, I hate this game!  Look, just wait two more minutes, okay, I gotta three star this.

Please tell me you will be doing an iRiff of this movie once it comes to DvD.

Hadn't really thought of it, kind of assumed a Rifftrax was likely, unless they're done with Batman. Might be worth looking into.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on April 14, 2012, 09:03:43 AM
Well i would buy both,your tracks are always funny.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on April 14, 2012, 06:20:18 PM
Yeah, I would buy both as well. Always good to get more than one take.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on April 15, 2012, 12:06:37 PM
This thread has become a surprising boost to my self esteem, and now this might be the first movie I seriously plan on riffing before it gets released. (Okay, second, I knew I'd want to riff the Nightmare on Elm Street remake as soon as I heard of it, and I WILL get to it)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 15, 2012, 12:18:25 PM
This thread has become a surprising boost to my self esteem, and now this might be the first movie I seriously plan on riffing before it gets released. (Okay, second, I knew I'd want to riff the Nightmare on Elm Street remake as soon as I heard of it, and I WILL get to it)

I say in the spirit of Batman & Robin, you open it up for submissions!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on April 15, 2012, 12:19:39 PM
I await your iRiff.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Raefire on April 30, 2012, 09:10:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/g8evyE9TuYk
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on May 01, 2012, 02:00:39 AM
Now that Avengers is out, I'm able to focus more of my freaking out in excitement time on this :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on May 22, 2012, 01:20:21 PM
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/05/21/dark-knight-rises-poster-2.jpg)

Looks like shit's startin' to get real up there.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on May 22, 2012, 02:00:21 PM
I certainly hope marketing kicks it up a notch in the coming weeks (given the size of this property and how well known it already is, that's not likely to really happen until about two weeks prior to release, give or take). I'm not expecting things to match the campaign for The Dark Knight, which was quite excellent (as far as movie advertising goes), but yeah, some amount of creativity or basic, non-shoddy-looking quality would be nice.

Of course, The Avengers had pretty awful posters for the entire run, so maybe not. It's not like they really need to try, either. No one's going to be dissuaded or persuaded on the basis of just the poster. Might as well just print a black sheet with the film title and release date.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on May 22, 2012, 02:08:10 PM
Well, modern poster design is pretty much a crapshoot these days, no matter how much clout or money is behind the property in question. Sometimes good designs leak through, but by and large it's a whole lot of quickly photoshopped nonsense. Sure, you could turn to Mondo, but then you've got to sell your soul just to buy one of their prints.

Still, gotta wait and see I guess. New posters did go up today (http://badassdigest.com/2012/05/22/newest-dark-knight-rises-posters-much-less-shitty/), and they are marginally better:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

EDIT: For quickie comparison, here are my favorite posters of from The Dark Knight:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on May 22, 2012, 02:31:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/0uNfk.gif)

 :D

Movie Poster Level: Unpaid Intern
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on May 22, 2012, 02:39:40 PM
It's especially a shame that they just slapped him over the older building style of the posters, since that one on its own was rather nice. Made for a nice tie-in to the previous two films:

(http://geektyrant.com/storage/post-images-2011/bat1.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1310997829331)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on May 22, 2012, 04:19:14 PM
I don't think the poster is bad.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on May 22, 2012, 04:23:37 PM
I don't think the poster is bad.

Is there a "hate" button?

I'm just kidding
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on May 22, 2012, 04:33:45 PM
I don't think the poster is bad.

No, I actually don't think it's atrocious either. Stuff like that one Avengers one-sheet (http://www.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/the-avengers-poster.jpg) are much worse, in that it's a complete mess of photoshop and cut/paste that's more befitting the cover of an Entertainment Weekly (where graphic design goes to die) than of a piece of advertising for a AAA title.

But the poster also isn't good. It's average and bland at best, and considering both the movie at hand and, as mentioned, the ad campaign of the previous movie, it's just irritating that they're choosing to go with the bare minimum to get by here. It's just the state of affairs of movie posters these days: no one, at least at the studios, seems to care about putting any sort of effort into them anymore. Just a lot of cut out bodies and dull-looking compositions.

Any graphic designers out there? Because now would be the time to weigh in.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on May 24, 2012, 02:36:42 PM
More CTRL-C CTRL-V.

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/05/24/dkr-banner-01.jpg)

"Scored me a Crown Vic. Whatddyall think?"


(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/05/24/dkr-banner-02.jpg)

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/05/24/dkr-banner-03.jpg)

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/05/24/dkr-banner-04.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 24, 2012, 09:07:38 PM

(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/05/24/dkr-banner-02.jpg)

"Look what I stole!  WEEEEEEEEEEEE!"


(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/05/24/dkr-banner-03.jpg)


"There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give me your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror. I await your answer. You have a full day to decide."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Compound on May 26, 2012, 05:41:06 PM
In related news...

DC's Animated division is working on a two film adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns, out this fall and next spring. Who's playing Batman? That'd be Peter "Robocop or Dr. Banzai for you nerdier types" Weller.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on May 26, 2012, 05:42:40 PM
I saw the trailer today and now July seems really far away.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 19, 2012, 01:29:32 PM
One last trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/v/3xWcN2qgK5c?version=3&hl=en_US

I like that melody line. It seems appropriately foreboding and climactic.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 19, 2012, 01:40:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/0uNfk.gif)

 :D

Movie Poster Level: Unpaid Intern
Yeah, even I could make something better than that.

I already got my ticket for the midnight... excuse me, 12:02 am showing. :D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on June 19, 2012, 07:57:34 PM
One last trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/v/3xWcN2qgK5c?version=3&hl=en_US

I like that melody line. It seems appropriately foreboding and climactic.
Not clicking play on that as the freeze frame is surely going to be some sort of boring old riot/battle and not the delightful full production song and dance number it looks like it is and so I'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 19, 2012, 10:22:40 PM
One last trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/v/3xWcN2qgK5c?version=3&hl=en_US

I like that melody line. It seems appropriately foreboding and climactic.
Not clicking play on that as the freeze frame is surely going to be some sort of boring old riot/battle and not the delightful full production song and dance number it looks like it is and so I'll be disappointed.

(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/897/batmannewmbigpicslide39.jpg)

♫ How do you solve a problem like the Batman? ♫
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Johnny Unusual on June 20, 2012, 12:35:25 PM
One last trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/v/3xWcN2qgK5c?version=3&hl=en_US

I like that melody line. It seems appropriately foreboding and climactic.
Not clicking play on that as the freeze frame is surely going to be some sort of boring old riot/battle and not the delightful full production song and dance number it looks like it is and so I'll be disappointed.

It's like West Side Story but from the cops' perspective.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 20, 2012, 06:19:26 PM
Anyone want to join me for the 12:02 am showing, late night July 18th/19th(Hope that doesn't confused anybody)?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gavind on June 21, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
One last trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/v/3xWcN2qgK5c?version=3&hl=en_US

I like that melody line. It seems appropriately foreboding and climactic.
Not clicking play on that as the freeze frame is surely going to be some sort of boring old riot/battle and not the delightful full production song and dance number it looks like it is and so I'll be disappointed.

It's like West Side Story but from the cops' perspective.

I don't have high hope in the sequel. If we compare this to Avengers,  the gap would be too much. By the way, the video was removed from youtube already. :(
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 21, 2012, 09:50:44 PM
:( This will be the best movie ever. Of this I have no doubt.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Raefire on June 21, 2012, 10:16:39 PM
Trailer 4 repost:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ASQqjK47c04
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on June 21, 2012, 11:26:26 PM
Trailer 4 repost:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ASQqjK47c04
fffffffffuuuuuucckkkinnn''' aweeesoommeeee!!!! Ack... forgive my Nerdgasm. :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontyServo on July 01, 2012, 09:23:27 PM
Been trying to avoid stuff about this movie wherever possible.  I did see the bit in front of the IMAX Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, but have been avoiding trailers for this.  I don't need to be sold on the film.

Anyway, is anyone going to go to the Dark Knight Trilogy that a lot of theaters are having on the evening of the 19th?

I already got tickets to go and am starting to get excited for the new movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on July 01, 2012, 09:29:20 PM
I've got 12:01 and I'm already 12-ish hours ahead of most of you guys.

BWAH-HA-HA-HARRR!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 01, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
I'm doing the marathon at my local theater (not the IMAX one, though, because I'm a little cheap). I can;t wait for that, especially since I'm the same way and avoiding watching any new trailers or whatever (save for those older ones, which I tend ot watch too much just to listen to some of the music cues).

And since I don't actually believe Scott exists, I can live with his supposed 12 hour lead.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 01, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
I can also live with a 12 hour lead. As long as I see it on the day I have ordained to see it, than I am happy.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 08, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
We said screw it and plunked down the dough for the DK Marathon!!   Can't wait!!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 09, 2012, 10:08:38 AM
Behind the scenes featurette!

http://www.youtube.com/v/9UuUxqfAOUM?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 09, 2012, 11:20:01 PM
I am really excited, but I am also really scared. I am afraid I am over-hyping The Dark Knight Rises in my mind. I remember however doing the same thing with the Dark Knight and it blowing me the hell away anyway... I am boiling over with anticipation... to say the very least.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Space version 2.0 on July 10, 2012, 07:01:22 AM
Nolan wears vests and coats but not a tie?
How barbaric!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 10, 2012, 04:03:37 PM
Nolan wears vests and coats but not a tie?
How barbaric!

It's just kind of stupid. It'd be like showing up in sperrys and a polo shirt, but without any pants or underwear.

(http://livinglindsay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Christmas-Vacation_Randy-Quaid_Cousin-Eddie-v-neck-face.bmp.jpg)
Oh, wouldn't he look silly, beleive you me!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 10, 2012, 04:12:03 PM
It's just kind of stupid. It'd be like showing up in sperrys and a polo shirt, but without any pants or underwear.
He's Christopher Nolan, if he doesn't want to wear a tie I'm not going to question the man. Honestly, would you either IRL Imrahil?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on July 10, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
I would. Really Chris, for a maker of such drearily portentous movies, you sure dress like a slob, funny.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 10, 2012, 04:33:06 PM
I would. Really Chris, for a maker of such drearily portentous movies, you sure dress like a slob, funny.
What he lacks in dress code he MORE than makes up for in directing.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on July 10, 2012, 04:35:10 PM
*shrug*

Don't know why exactly, but I just can't be bothered, just looks really really dull to me.

The terrible ADR in the trailer doesn't help but I assume they'll fix that in actual post.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 10, 2012, 05:24:59 PM
*shrug*

Don't know why exactly, but I just can't be bothered, just looks really really dull to me.

The terrible ADR in the trailer doesn't help but I assume they'll fix that in actual post.
Sounds fine to me, I think they fixed it because I can now understand everything Bane has said up till now.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on July 10, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
No that's what I mean; In order that you, and anyone else, can understand what he's saying, what's his face had to come back and rerecord his lines (people have to do that all the time even when not encumbered by a ballgag) but, as it currently stands, the EQ on it is all wrong and that's probably because trailers tend to be one of the first things done for a movie so the sound editing s fairly jerry rigged.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 10, 2012, 06:07:10 PM
Nolan wears vests and coats but not a tie?
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/09/article-1341846956699-13F9D452000005DC-146490_466x518.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 10, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/09/the-dark-knight-rises-review-leads-to-oscar-buzz/
"The Oscar talk for The Dark Knight Rises seems to have first started with a Twitter post from Marco Gennuso, which he attributed to an anonymous reviewer who had seen the film. The tweet said, “If this does not break the mold and win Best Picture, no comic book movie ever will. "
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 10, 2012, 11:57:09 PM
They released the whole soundtrack online. Here's a link for the Zimmer fans: *BWWWAAAAA* (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34498)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on July 11, 2012, 02:50:51 AM
http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/09/the-dark-knight-rises-review-leads-to-oscar-buzz/
"The Oscar talk for The Dark Knight Rises seems to have first started with a Twitter post from Marco Gennuso, which he attributed to an anonymous reviewer who had seen the film. The tweet said, “If this does not break the mold and win Best Picture, no comic book movie ever will. "

I would eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasily pick Dark Knight over any of the Best Picture nominees that year.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 11, 2012, 04:54:59 PM
I would eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasily pick Dark Knight over any of the Best Picture nominees that year.
Oh hell yes, let's see what else was nominated... Slumdog Millionaire... good, oscar material I must admit. Frost/Nixon... also good, but a little pretentious and obvious, Milk, The Reader? The Curious case of Benjamin Button?! WTF??? Benjamin Button wasn't that good! neither was The Reader! And if we're being honest here, they only nominated Milk because of political pressure. Seriously, would it have been so bad for those jackasses to at least nominate The Dark knight? I guess not because if they did, honestly, it would beat the hell out of all of them.

Then they have the gall to not even nominate Christopher Nolan for best director. Those guys have some seriously engorged cajones.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JimJ on July 11, 2012, 09:29:32 PM
I would eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasily pick Dark Knight over any of the Best Picture nominees that year.
Oh hell yes, let's see what else was nominated... Slumdog Millionaire... good, oscar material I must admit. Frost/Nixon... also good, but a little pretentious and obvious, Milk, The Reader? The Curious case of Benjamin Button?! WTF??? Benjamin Button wasn't that good! neither was The Reader! And if we're being honest here, they only nominated Milk because of political pressure. Seriously, would it have been so bad for those jackasses to at least nominate The Dark knight? I guess not because if they did, honestly, it would beat the hell out of all of them.

Then they have the gall to not even nominate Christopher Nolan for best director. Those guys have some seriously engorged cajones.

Milk was actually my favorite film that year.  Second favorite was The Wrestler, which also got snubbed from Best Picture.  Dark Knight definitely should have made it in over at least The Reader though.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 12, 2012, 02:42:12 PM
Milk was actually my favorite film that year.  Second favorite was The Wrestler, which also got snubbed from Best Picture.  Dark Knight definitely should have made it in over at least The Reader though.
Yeah, why didn't The Wrestler get nominated? It's definitely Oscar material.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on July 12, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Milk was actually my favorite film that year.  Second favorite was The Wrestler, which also got snubbed from Best Picture.  Dark Knight definitely should have made it in over at least The Reader though.
Yeah, why didn't The Wrestler get nominated? It's definitely Oscar material.
There are probably a lot of people in the academy that would see a movie about professional wrestling as beneath them, no matter how good the movie actually is.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on July 12, 2012, 06:30:38 PM
Milk was actually my favorite film that year.  Second favorite was The Wrestler, which also got snubbed from Best Picture.  Dark Knight definitely should have made it in over at least The Reader though.
Yeah, why didn't The Wrestler get nominated? It's definitely Oscar material.
There are probably a lot of people in the academy that would see a movie about professional wrestling as beneath them, no matter how good the movie actually is.

The IMDB comments section from before the movie was released is full of that and it's HILARIOUS. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Compound on July 18, 2012, 12:34:55 PM
And The Hub keeps showing why I pay an extra $5 a month just to have access to it.

It's the trailer to the Dark Knight Rises done with clips from Batman: The Animated Series.

http://www.youtube.com/v/btMtwz4P0fc?version=3
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on July 18, 2012, 12:58:06 PM
Just got back from a midnight screening, not sure if I love it as much as Dark Knight but I liked it a lot.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 18, 2012, 01:24:39 PM
I got bored again....

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0bom2DbDtpw/UAcTFNXR59I/AAAAAAAABPs/F8Saar5HeRo/s445/Reisers.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 18, 2012, 03:51:26 PM
The reviews have been great but slightly more mixed than on The Dark Knight, so I am getting worried that I am building my expectations too high.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on July 18, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
Look, more likely than not, there will be something in the film that doesn't work for you but overall you'll enjoy it, it'll meet what your expectations were.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 18, 2012, 06:11:59 PM
Just got back from a midnight screening, not sure if I love it as much as Dark Knight but I liked it a lot.

Is it true that it turns out his parents were dead the whole time?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 18, 2012, 11:00:30 PM
Just got back from a midnight screening, not sure if I love it as much as Dark Knight but I liked it a lot.

Is it true that it turns out his parents were dead the whole time?
Uhhh... Spoiler alert? ;)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2012, 08:20:18 AM
Rush Limbaugh's Bane vs. Bain Conspiracy: Host Says 'Dark Knight Rises' Villain Is Attack on Romney

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Rush Limbaugh sees left-wing conspiracy everywhere -- even Gotham City.

Speaking on his syndicated radio show Tuesday, the right-wing host brought up the Batman sequel The Dark Knight Rises (or as he called it, The Dark Knight Lights Up), in particular focusing on its main villain, the Tom Hardy-portrayed hulking madman Bane. With Mitt Romney's time at the investment fund Bain Capital (and the questionable time at which he retired from it) filling non-entertainment news headlines, Limbaugh tied the two together, casting some tough accusations at director Christopher Nolan and Warner Bros.

"Do you think it is accidental that the name of the really vicious, fire-breathing, four-eyed, whatever-it-is villain in this movie is named Bane?" Limbaugh asked his listeners.

Limbaugh did note that the film, the sequel to the 2008 blockbuster The Dark Knight, has been in the works for a long time, with a summer 2012 release date long part of the plan.

"So this evil villain in the new Batman movie is named Bane. And there's discussion out there as to whether or not this was purposeful and whether or not it will influence voters. It's going to have a lot of people," he continued. "The audience is going to be huge. A lot of people are going to see the movie. And it's a lot of brain-dead people -- entertainment, the pop culture crowd -- and they're going to hear Bane in the movie and they're going to associate Bain.

"And the thought is that when they're going to start paying attention to the campaign later in the year," Limbaugh asserted, "and Obama and the Democrats keep talking about Bain, not Bain Capital but Romney and Bain, that these people will start thinking back to the Batman movies, 'Oh yeah, I know who that is!' "

He then read from a Washington Times blog post that made the connection between Romney and Batman, as well.

Presumably, Limbaugh doesn't know the history of Batman and his enemies; Bane was not invented for this film, as he first appeared in 1993 in a storyline called Knightfall. That was a year before Romney made his first bid for elected office, his unsuccessful 1994 run against Ted Kennedy for the U.S. Senate.

There is some populist element in the film, as there is a take on wealth inequality in the story. Presumably, though, there is no politician in the film who founded an investment fund and later came under fire for contradicting his SEC forms.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Exm3gApFgPY?version=3&hl=en_US

Hydrocodone is a hell of a drug.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on July 19, 2012, 08:31:38 AM
Chuck Dixon is one hell of a prophet, creating an allegorical political attack character a year or more before Romney began his lethargic and faltering ascent; he must have a sort of Dead Zone thing going on....
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2012, 08:43:38 AM
Grab the fuckin' reins, people.


Ticket Re-Sellers, Scalpers Join 'The Dark Knight Rises' Frenzy

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Ticket brokers and scalpers, who normally tend to focus on sports events and concerts, are looking to cash in on the frenzy around Warner Bros.' The Dark Knight Rises.



Imax tickets for the first screenings of the film have been re-sold on such ticket trading web sites as Craigslist and Ebay's StubHub for as much as $100 each, the Wall Street Journal reported.



"Movies like The Dark Knight Rises come along once every few years," a ticket broker called Steve told the Journal. 

He said he works for a company that sells tickets, but declined to share his last name.

He said he has sold about 150 of the 200 tickets he bought and offered for $100. Many of the tickets went for the asking price, but the average sales price was $65, he told the paper. 

The 2008 second Batman movie in the Dark Knight trilogy is still the highest-opening 2D movie in North America, with a take of $158.4 million.




Rotten Tomatoes Kills Dark Knight Rises Comments Because the Fanboys Couldn’t Behave

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Here is why we cannot have nice things today: Rotten Tomatoes had to turn off user comments — for the first time in its history — because Dark Knight Rises fans went nuts against any critic who'd written a negative review. "The job of policing the comments became more than my staff could handle for that film," explained editor-in-chief Matt Atchity. Also, the fanboys broke rule No. 1 of Internet commenting, which is that you don't start with the personal attacks until after you've seen the movie. Just courtesy.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2012, 08:47:00 AM
Chuck Dixon is one hell of a prophet, creating an allegorical political attack character a year or more before Romney began his lethargic and faltering ascent; he must have a sort of Dead Zone thing going on....

Not only that, but...

Bane Creator Chuck Dixon: Limbaugh’s Batman Conspiracy Theory ‘Ridiculous’ — I’m a Staunch Conservative

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Making an unplanned phone call into the nationally syndicated radio program Schnitt Show yesterday, comic book writer Chuck Dixon, co-creator of the character Bane, refuted claims made by Rush Limbaugh that the homophonic similarities between the Batman villain and Mitt Romney's financial services company Bain suggest a liberal conspiracy to smear the presidential candidate.

"Graham and I are both staunch conservatives, so from our angle there is no liberal agenda," Dixon said, referring to his DC partner Graham Nolan.

"The idea that there's some kind of liberal agenda behind the use of Bane in the new movie is silly," Dixon told ComicBook.com in the aftermath of the Limbaugh segment. "I refuted this within hours of the article in the Washington Examiner suggesting that Bane would be tied to Bain Capital and Mitt Romney appearing. Bane was created by me and Graham Nolan and we are lifelong conservatives and as far from left-wing mouthpieces as you are likely to find in comics."

 :D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on July 19, 2012, 08:55:04 AM
And see Limbaugh would be all over some lawsuit demanding that the word "Manager" be banned due to being sexist....

They didn't even have to look up the history of the character, the definition of the word "Bane" should have been enough. But that there would be book learnin'.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 19, 2012, 02:20:45 PM
Sure I can understand how The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises may arguably be an allegory for the war on terror, but can anybody rightly latch onto specific details out of a film and assign them to real people?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Space version 2.0 on July 19, 2012, 02:59:42 PM
I got bored again....

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0bom2DbDtpw/UAcTFNXR59I/AAAAAAAABPs/F8Saar5HeRo/s445/Reisers.jpg)

I prefer The Dark Knight Ranger. You might remember their hit song, Sister Christian Bale.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2012, 04:15:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/wpnh8ih-8Xw?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 19, 2012, 05:57:22 PM
Just got done with Batman Begins at the marathon!  I haven't watched this in a long time..  Got my iPod all cued up for The Dark Knight coming up next!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 19, 2012, 07:14:24 PM
Just got done with Batman Begins at the marathon!  I haven't watched this in a long time..  Got my iPod all cued up for The Dark Knight coming up next!

I think I'm one of the few in the universe who prefers Batman Begins over The Dark Knight.  And considering how amazing TDK is, that shows my high appreciation for Begins.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on July 19, 2012, 07:28:40 PM
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Also, the fanboys broke rule No. 1 of Internet commenting, which is that you don't start with the personal attacks until after you've seen the movie.

Good rule.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: eegah on July 19, 2012, 07:30:19 PM
I think I'm one of the few in the universe who prefers Batman Begins over The Dark Knight.  And considering how amazing TDK is, that shows my high appreciation for Begins.

After re-watching Batman Begins recently, I think I'm going to have to agree with you.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 19, 2012, 07:57:38 PM
I think I'm one of the few in the universe who prefers Batman Begins over The Dark Knight.  And considering how amazing TDK is, that shows my high appreciation for Begins.

After re-watching Batman Begins recently, I think I'm going to have to agree with you.

It's just nice and simple... and reminds me more of the animated series.  The Dark Knight really was the next logical step, as far as movies go... so I have no complaints about it.  Also, it made people aware of how The Joker should be, as opposed to Jack Nicholson... but I loved the more stripped down Batman-ness of Begins.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 19, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
I have to agree too. I haven't watched Begins all the way through in a long time and I enjoyed it more than TDK.  Maybe I just watched the RiffTrax version too many times.  The mp3 lost sync pretty quickly for me in the theater and I still found myself laughing at points I remembered jokes.  Maybe too much RiffTrax can be a bad thing??
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2012, 08:47:46 PM
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Also, the fanboys broke rule No. 1 of Internet commenting, which is that you don't start with the personal attacks until after you've seen the movie.

Good rule.

But after you've seen the movie, let the personal attacks fly!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 02:07:51 AM
Bad, bad news from a Denver-area midnight showing:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/?tag=stack
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Compound on July 20, 2012, 02:07:51 AM
Just back from the midnight show.

Spoiler free review: Wow.

And the theater was more crowded at a midnight show than I've seen in years. I think they had 6 theaters just showing DKR.

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 20, 2012, 03:36:33 AM
Having just returned from not only the midnight show, but the entire trilogy, I am a little tired right now. As such, I will post my full thoughts tomorrow. I do have this to say right now, though:

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That is all.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on July 20, 2012, 05:24:15 AM
That was the only issue I had with it as well Dragon
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 20, 2012, 06:39:44 AM
And as for the movie itself.  It was...  good.  I think it's the "worst" of the three, but still good.  It's not even close to being a Spiderman 3 or Xmen 3. 

I thought the pacing was a bit wonky, the 2nd acting was a bit of a bore.  I think it was too grand in it's scope.  Still fun and it does have a satisfying conclusion.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lassieface on July 20, 2012, 07:51:29 AM
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 20, 2012, 08:00:22 AM
There might have been a little too much pandering through cameos and little "winks."

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 20, 2012, 09:22:25 AM
There might have been a little too much pandering through cameos and little "winks."

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Damnit! I really wish I hadn't read that! Figures, I've avoided spoilers really well se far.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lassieface on July 20, 2012, 09:27:49 AM
For some reason I could not figure out why I knew this actor. I'm an idiot.

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Compound on July 20, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
(Head desk)

And in less serious news, gah!
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 20, 2012, 04:26:42 PM
I know we're all preoccupied with last night's events, but if it's okay, I have a theory about the movie I'd like to run by everybody. Thinking about it for a while, I realized that in a weird way, TDKR is like the Empire Strikes Back of Batman movies. The Empire is like the League of Shadows and the antagonist and protagonist relate to each other in a very important way. The rebels, I'm sorry, I mean cops have to hide from the evil Empire, I'm sorry, I mean the League of shadows, and Han Solo(Gary Oldman) has to fly through an Asteroid field in the Batwing to avoid being shot at by Bane's evil henchmen!!!.... Wait what? Okay, that was bullshit, but I do think that there are quite a few points of comparison.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 20, 2012, 04:52:44 PM
It's funny, because I've seen a lot of people calling TDKR the Return of the Jedi to TDK's Empire Strikes Back.

More in terms of overall quality than actual plot comparisons, though.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on July 20, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
The Dark Knight really was the next logical step, as far as movies go... so I have no complaints about it.  Also, it made people aware of how The Joker should be, as opposed to Jack Nicholson...

As much as I love the Nolan movies, I would assert that the Nicholson version of the Joker was perfect... for that style of Batman movie. To play him differently would have had weird effects on the tone of the 1989 film.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 20, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
The Dark Knight really was the next logical step, as far as movies go... so I have no complaints about it.  Also, it made people aware of how The Joker should be, as opposed to Jack Nicholson...
As much as I love the Nolan movies, I would assert that the Nicholson version of the Joker was perfect... for that style of Batman movie. T
Yep... then when he realizes he's about to fall to his death, he becomes all scared and frightened. Heath Ledger's Joker laughs in the face of death, and is disappointed when his life is SAVED. For me, it's no contest who the better Joker is. ;)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 20, 2012, 05:52:53 PM
The Dark Knight really was the next logical step, as far as movies go... so I have no complaints about it.  Also, it made people aware of how The Joker should be, as opposed to Jack Nicholson...
As much as I love the Nolan movies, I would assert that the Nicholson version of the Joker was perfect... for that style of Batman movie. T
Yep... then when he realizes he's about to fall to his death, he becomes all scared and frightened. Heath Ledger's Joker laughs in the face of death, and is disappointed when his life is SAVED. For me, it's no contest who the better Joker is. ;)

I've always split up the three big Joker versions (Nicholson's, Ledger's, and Hamill's) by how they reacted to falling. Nicholson screamed, Ledger laughed, and Hamill laughed and then screamed. It pretty much explained their characters in a nutshell. And I too really dig Nicholson, for the style of the movie he was in.

The Joker has had a ton of different interpretations over the years, from just a bank robbing prankster to a man from nightmares. Whichever version you ultimately prefer is a personal matter, but they all essentially work on their own merits (save maybe for that one that teamed up with the penguin to fight Scooby and the gang).
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 05:52:57 PM
The Dark Knight really was the next logical step, as far as movies go... so I have no complaints about it.  Also, it made people aware of how The Joker should be, as opposed to Jack Nicholson...

As much as I love the Nolan movies, I would assert that the Nicholson version of the Joker was perfect... for that style of Batman movie. To play him differently would have had weird effects on the tone of the 1989 film.

Nicholson's Joker was perfect for that movie, yes... Perfect for Burton's "I don't know a thing about Batman, so I'll have some people clue me in on a few things while making the movie" Batman movie.  Also, Nicholson was perfect at playing himself dressed up as a sorta Joker character.

But Ledger, and to an even greater extent Hamill, was a better Joker based on THE CHARACTER.  I got beaten up quite a few times back in the early 90's for pointing out that the Nicholson/Burton "Joker" was NOT "The Joker".  He was even further from being The Joker than Romero was.

Call me an elitist snob if you want, but when someone bastardizes a character THAT much, it just annoys me.  (I have the same issue at a smaller scale with Gene Wilder's portrayal of Willy Wonka too...)

I have somewhere some old ViewMaster slides based on old Batman comics from yeeeeeeeears ago, and The Joker in those was almost exactly how they showed him in TAS... and Ledger was the closest to that I have seen on screen.

Although this guy who shot up the theater might be pretty close too.......
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontyServo on July 20, 2012, 05:57:13 PM
Maybe there should be two separate threads here, one for the movie and one for the shit that happened at the theater.

I still have a lot to say about the movie.  Will probably write up some very spoiler-rific comments later on tonight or tomorrow.

But yeah, maybe a mod can pull all of the comments about the shootings out of this thread and into their own thread, so we can use this one to talk about the movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontyServo on July 20, 2012, 05:59:32 PM
  Also, Nicholson was perfect at playing himself dressed up

This is pretty much all he ever does as far as I have seen.

He is not the only one either.  I could probably think of a bunch of actors that don't really "act", so much as just play themselves over and over.  Owen Wilson is one that comes immediately to mind.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Sideswipe on July 20, 2012, 06:00:30 PM
I like acting you can see!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: TheUnabeefer on July 20, 2012, 06:00:43 PM
  Also, Nicholson was perfect at playing himself dressed up

This is pretty much all he ever does as far as I have seen.

There's nothing inherently wrong about that though.  Some of the coolest actors tend to just play themselves...  It only sucks when they try to play set already known/created characters as themselves.

I also vote that there should be another thread for the shooting.  Technically I vote that the shooting should not have happened, but I can't change that.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 20, 2012, 06:20:53 PM
So back to movie talk....

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 20, 2012, 06:29:48 PM
I like acting you can see!
Do you like it very much?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: goflyblind on July 20, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
I like acting you can see!
Do you like it very much?

not as much as boot-blacking, obviously.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mrbasehart on July 20, 2012, 06:36:44 PM
  Also, Nicholson was perfect at playing himself dressed up

This is pretty much all he ever does as far as I have seen.

There's nothing inherently wrong about that though.  Some of the coolest actors tend to just play themselves...  It only sucks when they try to play set already known/created characters as themselves.

I also vote that there should be another thread for the shooting.  Technically I vote that the shooting should not have happened, but I can't change that.

I think you can point to his two standout performances in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and The Shining and see where the guy got pigeon-holed as that kind of actor, when in other movies he's brilliant - and understated! - in films like Five Easy Pieces, The Last Detail, and The Passenger.  Even in recent films like About Schmidt, but they pale into the background against the sinister, shouty roles that he gets through on the force of his eyebrows alone.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontyServo on July 20, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
OK then...

I saw all three films back-to-back-to-back last night at the theater.  My local multiplex had the Trilogy on their two largest screens and our screen was sold out.  I had only seen Batman Begins one time before and it has been a while since I had seen The Dark Knight. After watching all three, I can say that the second film is easily the best and my favorite.  The performances, not only of Heath Ledger but of Aaron Eckhart, just put this film over the top.  I do like the way all three films tied together as a trilogy.

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All in all, I enjoyed the film and loved seeing the trilogy the way I did.  Will be trying to go and see it again in a few weeks after the crowds die down a bit.  I might like it better seeing it removed a bit more from the superior second film.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gojikranz on July 20, 2012, 06:56:04 PM
really my biggest issue is
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anyways i definately enjoyed it but just some things bugged me.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 20, 2012, 07:05:21 PM
really my biggest issue is
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anyways i definately enjoyed it but just some things bugged me.

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontyServo on July 20, 2012, 07:14:03 PM
really my biggest issue is
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anyways i definately enjoyed it but just some things bugged me.

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 20, 2012, 08:24:53 PM
Maybe there should be two separate threads here, one for the movie and one for the shit that happened at the theater.

and I have some PMs asking the same thing... Locking this one TEMPORARILY while I do the split!

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 20, 2012, 08:35:09 PM
All done:

http://forum.rifftrax.com/index.php?topic=25530.0



Please use the new thread for the ongoing discussion of this horrific and pointless event...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nergol on July 20, 2012, 08:40:22 PM
Making the rounds:
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2wrqerp.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 20, 2012, 08:49:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/o7ycM.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 21, 2012, 12:22:01 PM
Just got out a little while ago. I liked it, but didn't think it was great. WAAAAAAY too long for one, especially given that at the end of the day, the crux of the threat is just another bomb. Bane's voice was at times difficult to understand, and the rest of the time just silly sounding. I hated that Batman had just dissapeared for eight years, and everything righted itself in Gotham just fine. And if Bruce wasn't Batman for 8 years, why was he still limping?

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That and plenty more bothered me about this movie. Although I did enjoy it. I just think simpler (and shorter!) would have been better.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Starman! on July 21, 2012, 01:21:35 PM
I saw it last night and I enjoyed it, though it is the least of the trilogy IMO. It does have some plot holes as everyone has stated. Bane is a weak villain too, especially when compared to Ledger as The Joker. And Tom Hardy sounds like Sean Connery in the movie. :P

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Despite that, it was pretty good, but I still like The Avengers better.

P.S. Anne Hathaway is hot.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on July 21, 2012, 02:46:37 PM
Hey! I'm close friends with Robin, or Joseph Gordon-Levitt, one of those. (http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/01/15/seeing-robin-in-the-dark-knight-rises/)

On the plus side, my friend Jim didn't get cut out of a movie again, so, well done him. :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mrbasehart on July 21, 2012, 03:46:39 PM
I thought Bane was a pretty good villain.  One of the best scenes in the movie is his first confrontation with Batman.  It's also the best action scene with Batman, too, which is where I thought the film was weakest.

And yes, Anne Hathaway is superhot.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 21, 2012, 04:42:39 PM
Ann Hatheway was very sexy as Catwoman. I was very glad they made her a formidable fighter, but never did a fight between her and Batman.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 21, 2012, 04:54:14 PM
Just got out a little while ago. I liked it, but didn't think it was great. WAAAAAAY too long for one, especially given that at the end of the day, the crux of the threat is just another bomb. Bane's voice was at times difficult to understand, and the rest of the time just silly sounding. I hated that Batman had just dissapeared for eight years, and everything righted itself in Gotham just fine. And if Bruce wasn't Batman for 8 years, why was he still limping?
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I didn't feel its length at all Darth Geek. Mostly because I never even got the urge to check my watch. Also, I didn't hear you complaining about the bomb in the Avengers movie.... I feel that what's important is that Bane and his plan are carrying on motifs established in Batman Begins. Honestly, I don't know why Bruce Wayne was limping. I might be wrong, but wasn't he limping when he ran back to the bat pod at the end of TDK? Seriously, I don't care about ancillary details. I'd rather the film respect my intelligence and allow me to make reasonable inferences. Honestly, would answering those questions make the movie any better? Because if they did tell you, I think you'd just be like oh... okay, and that would be it.
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 21, 2012, 05:14:02 PM
I didn't feel its length at all Darth Geek.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2Ogq9jLjtj4/T6hU3AWHDII/AAAAAAAACB8/krUnBHbtStI/s1600/MichaelScott.jpg)
Oh you! :P
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 21, 2012, 05:27:02 PM
As for the bomb in Avengers, I had more of an issue with the inclusion of the cliche 'Shadowy Council Of People Who Sit In Poorly Lit Rooms And Rule The World' (thanks Spoony). And the nuke was just a last minute add-on to the movie because they were in it. The bomb here was the major threat in the movie once Bane took over the city.

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 21, 2012, 06:45:48 PM
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on July 21, 2012, 06:47:58 PM
As for the bomb in Avengers, I had more of an issue with the inclusion of the cliche 'Shadowy Council Of People Who Sit In Poorly Lit Rooms And Rule The World' (thanks Spoony). And the nuke was just a last minute add-on to the movie because they were in it. The bomb here was the major threat in the movie once Bane took over the city.

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 21, 2012, 06:57:41 PM
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Dammit that's another motif I failed to see until now! :(
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on July 22, 2012, 12:37:43 AM
Lets see.  How should I say this.

I saw it.

Me like. 

That is all for now.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lassieface on July 22, 2012, 11:07:08 AM
I really want to make a screen-accurate replica of Bane's mask.

Also, has anybody posted this yet...

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2012, 11:12:54 AM

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I was thinking about that too while watching the movie.

Also, the "Death by exile" reminded me of the old "death by snoo snoo" joke.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
One thing I was wondering while watching it...how long has Bruce actually been active as Batman? The first movie is when he first started, and the second is, what? A year later? Less? And right after that, Bruce hangs up Batman for 8 years and only becomes him again for a day or two, is away healing for three months (IIRC) and then comes back for a day.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on July 22, 2012, 11:38:15 AM
I was wondering that too. I do get the impression that there were a few years between Begins and Dark Knight though, just judging by the opening of Dark Knight and how much Gotham had changed. It was enough time for Batman to be firmly established in peoples minds and make a major impact on crime.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
I was wondering that too. I do get the impression that there were a few years between Begins and Dark Knight though, just judging by the opening of Dark Knight and how much Gotham had changed. It was enough time for Batman to be firmly established in peoples minds and make a major impact on crime.
Do they actually say how much time has passed before The Dark Knight?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 22, 2012, 12:09:05 PM
.
Also, has anybody posted this yet...
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To quote MST3K: Riding with death "So... I don't think it would have taken out the whole town"
"Nope, might have singed the side of a bed and breakfast."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on July 22, 2012, 12:54:40 PM
I was wondering that too. I do get the impression that there were a few years between Begins and Dark Knight though, just judging by the opening of Dark Knight and how much Gotham had changed. It was enough time for Batman to be firmly established in peoples minds and make a major impact on crime.
Do they actually say how much time has passed before The Dark Knight?

When he addresses the mobster council, the Joker makes a statement about how much bolder they all were a year ago, before the appearance of The Batman.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2012, 01:28:02 PM
I was wondering that too. I do get the impression that there were a few years between Begins and Dark Knight though, just judging by the opening of Dark Knight and how much Gotham had changed. It was enough time for Batman to be firmly established in peoples minds and make a major impact on crime.
Do they actually say how much time has passed before The Dark Knight?

When he addresses the mobster council, the Joker makes a statement about how much bolder they all were a year ago, before the appearance of The Batman.
Ah, that must be what I was remembering. I was pretty sure they mention at one point it had been a year.

So he's really only Batman for 1 year in the trilogy.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: losingmydignity on July 22, 2012, 01:52:26 PM
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/07/the-massacre-in-aurora-can-you-blame-the-movies.html
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on July 22, 2012, 02:43:25 PM
Yup. Still crap writing, regardless of the thread it's posted in.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 22, 2012, 02:53:56 PM
I really want to make a screen-accurate replica of Bane's mask.

Get cracking:
https://www.youtube.com/v/mOADKg5SvVY

This was posted in may!!

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lassieface on July 22, 2012, 03:22:24 PM
I really want to make a screen-accurate replica of Bane's mask.

Get cracking:
https://www.youtube.com/v/mOADKg5SvVY

This was posted in may!!



It looks like it was designed from scratch...like you'd have to 3D print, and then cast all of the parts.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 22, 2012, 03:37:14 PM
I could ruin it for everyone if I said it looks like a sideways:

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2012, 03:38:18 PM
I could ruin it for everyone if I said it looks like a sideways:

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?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: k1 on July 22, 2012, 03:45:59 PM
Rhymes with gotee.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 22, 2012, 04:13:48 PM
Yeah, I think he's saying it looks like a big, gaping asshole.

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2012, 04:16:08 PM
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 22, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
As always, the Bum is awesome:

http://blip.tv/play/AYL%2BxxIC
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 22, 2012, 05:43:54 PM
As always, the Bum is awesome:

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Jesus, I made it through about forty-five seconds of that. Why is it TGWTG thinks just shrieking and waving his arms around is anything but extremely annoying? Kinda makes me wanna jam flaming shish kabobs into my ears.

And I don't give a shit if you did use to play bass for Flaming Shish Kabobs!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 22, 2012, 06:01:35 PM
Regardless of what it looks like, it's an obvious weak point that is right out in the open. I was surprised how easily Batman broke it when he punched it at the end of the movie.
I was also surprised that they never did a Jason style unmasking.
easily? It took about 10-15(minimum) punches to break the damn thing. Bearing in mind that those batsuit fists are probably reinforced and DESIGNED to break whatever/whoever they hit without much effort... that's probably about right.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: wurwolf on July 23, 2012, 07:18:16 AM
Regardless of what it looks like, it's an obvious weak point that is right out in the open. I was surprised
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Dude, the movie just came out a few days ago. You are posting spoilers all over the place. Please fix your posts and spoiler that shit.

^See how easy that is?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 23, 2012, 07:31:44 AM
My appologies. Spoilers covered in both threads.
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Post by: lassieface on July 23, 2012, 07:39:13 AM
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on July 23, 2012, 07:40:04 AM
My appologies. Spoilers covered in both threads.

I don't thing I'll ever get your love of TGWG network in the same way you seem to always have a problem with handicam-ish movies.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: wurwolf on July 23, 2012, 07:46:28 AM
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Yeah, I agree. I don't think they explained that very well.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on July 23, 2012, 10:53:31 AM
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Yeah, I agree. I don't think they explained that very well.

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 23, 2012, 01:07:37 PM
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I don't think there is anything specific in the movie except the exposition about
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I know that I read an article somewhere that instead of the drug/steroid Venom as in  the comics it was
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 23, 2012, 06:21:15 PM
Film comes full circle, like poetry.

(http://i.imgur.com/SiaFb.gif)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 23, 2012, 09:13:01 PM
Film comes full circle, like poetry.
(http://i.imgur.com/SiaFb.gif)
George Lucas: It's like poetry, so that they rhyme.... Hopefully it'll work
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: wurwolf on July 24, 2012, 11:00:06 AM
Read this review of The Dark Knight Rises (or, as my mother called it, "Night Life"). Just a warning, there are massive spoilers in the article so don't read it unless you've seen the movie.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/07/24/dark-knight-rises-review-logic-symbolism-christopher-nolan-batman/#ixzz21Yh6fO5X

It was an interesting read, but now I'm wondering just what the hell I was watching. I remember very little of what was discussed in this article; the whole middle of the movie was kind of boring so I pretty much just zoned out. I have no idea, for instance,
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I do agree about Tom Hardy's voice, though, and I just looked up his picture and omg he is a total babe.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 24, 2012, 11:09:48 AM
I'm seeing it again to get a better hold on things. I'm still digging it in my head, but it remains to be seen if everything holds up on a second viewing. I'll do a big write up afterword (which will be most repetition by now).

Meanwhile:
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/RelaxingDragon1/137501.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontyServo on July 24, 2012, 05:56:45 PM
I have no idea, for instance,
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I am drawing a blank as well.  A lot of stuff happens in that movie, it is easy to forget some of the smaller details.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: wurwolf on July 24, 2012, 07:05:45 PM
Evidently it was a huge plot point!

That's the thing that gets me about these Christopher Nolan movies. He has a tendency to let them become convoluted and difficult to follow. Inception was completely retarded with that. I dislike movies to begin with so popcorn movies is about my level. I find myself liking the actors as the characters they play more than the actual movie itself.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 25, 2012, 12:21:20 AM
Evidently it was a huge plot point!

That's the thing that gets me about these Christopher Nolan movies. He has a tendency to let them become convoluted and difficult to follow. Inception was completely retarded with that. I dislike movies to begin with so popcorn movies is about my level. I find myself liking the actors as the characters they play more than the actual movie itself.
I'll take Christopher Nolan's film-making over anything else out there today. I'm much more happy watching something "convoluted and difficult to follow" any day over something that outright insults my intelligence.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Riffman for Hire on July 25, 2012, 04:03:03 AM
There was some really sloppy stuff in the film.  For example, misspelling heist in a news article.  Two hundred and fifty million dollars and they can't use a spell checker?  And nobody caught that during editing?  And I wasn't even looking to nitpick things--I really wanted to enjoy myself.

Also the stock market chase.  In one part it's day, the next it's night.  Where's the transition?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on July 25, 2012, 05:13:16 AM
Well, they did mention it was 4am or so at the start of the raid

I have no idea, for instance,
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I am drawing a blank as well.  A lot of stuff happens in that movie, it is easy to forget some of the smaller details.


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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: wurwolf on July 25, 2012, 06:50:41 AM
Evidently it was a huge plot point!

That's the thing that gets me about these Christopher Nolan movies. He has a tendency to let them become convoluted and difficult to follow. Inception was completely retarded with that. I dislike movies to begin with so popcorn movies is about my level. I find myself liking the actors as the characters they play more than the actual movie itself.
I'll take Christopher Nolan's film-making over anything else out there today. I'm much more happy watching something "convoluted and difficult to follow" any day over something that outright insults my intelligence.

Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 25, 2012, 10:30:36 AM
Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.
I personally want a film that challenges me intellectually. I want it to keep me actively thinking and guessing what's going to happen next, as I believe that's the hallmark of the best cinema.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: wurwolf on July 25, 2012, 10:47:39 AM
Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.
I personally want a film that challenges me intellectually. I want it to keep me actively thinking and guessing what's going to happen next, as I believe that's the hallmark of the best cinema.

So you prefer movies that are needlessly complicated?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 25, 2012, 10:49:21 AM
Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.
I personally want a film that challenges me intellectually. I want it to keep me actively thinking and guessing what's going to happen next, as I believe that's the hallmark of the best cinema.
So you prefer movies that are needlessly complicated?
Heh, I guess I do...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: wurwolf on July 25, 2012, 10:53:08 AM
Does it have to be either or? Is it too much to ask to have a movie that's neither convoluted nor insulting to my intelligence? I love giant robots beating the shit out of each other but it's not as though I didn't think Michael Bay's Transformers didn't have godawful problems.
I personally want a film that challenges me intellectually. I want it to keep me actively thinking and guessing what's going to happen next, as I believe that's the hallmark of the best cinema.
So you prefer movies that are needlessly complicated?
Heh, I guess I do...

You and I probably go to movies for very different reasons. I like a lot of mindless entertainment. If things get too complicated I bail, which is probably why I stopped paying attention halfway through TDKR.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 25, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
You and I probably go to movies for very different reasons. I like a lot of mindless entertainment. If things get too complicated I bail, which is probably why I stopped paying attention halfway through TDKR.
I don't know if it's because I am so stingy with money these days or if it's because I really won't pay for a ticket unless it's something I am really excited for. Maybe it's a combination of both. I can tell you for sure there's only maybe 2-3 things I am seeing for sure before this year is out.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Space version 2.0 on July 25, 2012, 11:57:26 AM
I do agree about Tom Hardy's voice, though, and I just looked up his picture and omg he is a total babe.
You see his penis in Bronson.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Riffman for Hire on July 25, 2012, 01:12:58 PM
I do agree about Tom Hardy's voice, though, and I just looked up his picture and omg he is a total babe.
You see his penis in Bronson.

I don't think Charles Bronson would appreciate Tom Hardy's penis in him.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MrTorso on July 25, 2012, 01:29:59 PM
Just saw it again today. Holds up for me! 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jonny Jit on July 25, 2012, 01:32:38 PM
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I don't Charles Bronson would appreciate Tom Hardy's penis in him.

ha!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MontyServo on July 25, 2012, 02:25:10 PM
I do agree about Tom Hardy's voice, though, and I just looked up his picture and omg he is a total babe.
You see his penis in Bronson.

Just saw it again today. Holds up for me! 

Nuff said!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on July 25, 2012, 02:28:36 PM
Well, they did mention it was 4am or so at the start of the raid

I have no idea, for instance,
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I am drawing a blank as well.  A lot of stuff happens in that movie, it is easy to forget some of the smaller details.


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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 25, 2012, 03:31:28 PM
Well, they did mention it was 4am or so at the start of the raid

I have no idea, for instance,
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I am drawing a blank as well.  A lot of stuff happens in that movie, it is easy to forget some of the smaller details.


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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: NRRork on July 25, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
Well, just saw it. I'm not reading ANY other posts in here, or anyone else's opinion of it ANYWHERE until I have my own thoughts put down. I don't want them contaminated by accidentally, say, reading something that I didn't notice myself in the movie or. . . whatever. So, if I'm repeating a lot of common sentiments, well, so be it.

All and all, I say Nolan's Batman trilogy went from strength to strength.

For me at least, it took a good hour or more to build up steam, but after it does, well, it had a lot of goddamn steam. Let's put it that way. I was just starting to get kinda bored with it and a bit let down when it just started really picking up, and then it had me hooked. I had no idea what to expect from this movie, I deliberately read very little about it in the last few months. But I know I sure as hell wasn't expecting what I saw. And I loved what I saw. ^_^

Of course, that's after ONE viewing. I guess the real question will be how much staying power it has. Will it endure as well The Dark Knight did? I'm not so sure. I suspect the themes and story of The Dark Knight will endure better. It's probably the better movie, but a part of me just really doesn't even want to compare them. The two movies go in such different directions, which I think was a brilliant decision. There was no recreating The Dark Knight, and it would've been a disaster to try. And even IF they succeeded, it only would've been ANOTHER Dark Knight.

Here, they took some risks, and I believe it paid off handsomely. And even if ends up being remembered as not quite as good as its predecessor, it deserves some major praise for that.

Also I wasn't crazy about Bane's accent. But whatever, just one more reason we wanted to see Batman kick his ass!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 26, 2012, 07:46:47 PM
Did anyone else get a Wrath of Khan vibe at the end of the film with them reading the lines from A tale of two cities?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on July 26, 2012, 07:47:46 PM
Did anyone else get a Wrath of Khan vibe at the end of the film with them reading the lines from A tale of two cities?

That passage always makes me think Wrath of Khan, it never fails.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 26, 2012, 08:47:47 PM
That passage always makes me think Wrath of Khan, it never fails.
Indeed. :) I also like how
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on July 26, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
That passage always makes me think Wrath of Khan, it never fails.
Indeed. :) I also like how
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Which reminds me:
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Kete on July 27, 2012, 10:22:27 AM
Finally saw it.

I absolutely loved it.  I don't know if I can compare it to the others because it just seemed so epic.  Maybe that's the IMAX talking, but it just seemed like it had a much larger scope than the other two (not necessarily better, just bigger scope).

I have a few complaints, but I'll save those for later.  I just really enjoyed it, and I'm sad that it's over.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Danecho1967 on July 27, 2012, 11:28:40 AM
Saw it this morning.  I predicted a few of the twists, but that's okay.  It's Batman, after all.

Like Kete, I have a quibble over one thing, but it's a huge spoiler, so I'll save it for later.

Edit:  I forgot to say that I really liked the movie.  I'm happy with it as an ending to the trilogy.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 27, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
Alright, finally kinda-sorta collected my thoughts. This was written for another site, so it's a bit broad and likely touches on things already mentioned in here. Also, I do some hardcore rambling (but try to avoid any actual spoilers), so heads up:

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on July 27, 2012, 02:03:24 PM
You come across as a little harsh, but given the precedents, I guess its okay to hold Nolan up to a higher standard.  My overall impression was that this was a fantastic movie and not in any way a letdown like we have seen on the third outings of other superhero trilogies. 

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 27, 2012, 02:39:32 PM
The better the filmmaker, the higher the standards by which they are judged. Nolan is damn good at what he does, and even the stuff he isn't good at (like filming a fight sequence) he's getting better at (and, every once in a while, delivers something like the Big Rig Flip or Spinning Hallway Fight, bits that are so crazy good it makes everything else seem better just by being near it).

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: lassieface on July 27, 2012, 04:37:04 PM
Considering Nolan = box office gold, they'll probably let him make whatever he wants to next.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on July 27, 2012, 11:06:29 PM
I am more than slightly worried about what's in store next for the Batman franchise. It's not a question if Warner Brothers is going to do more Batman films, it's a question of when, and I'm sure the when will be sometime in the next 3 - 4 years at most, since it's such a cash cow. You know, I think it would be great if they could get Paul Dini to pitch a story.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on July 28, 2012, 07:42:56 AM
I am more than slightly worried about what's in store next for the Batman franchise. It's not a question if Warner Brothers is going to do more Batman films, it's a question of when, and I'm sure the when will be sometime in the next 3 - 4 years at most, since it's such a cash cow. You know, I think it would be great if they could get Paul Dini to pitch a story.

Considering the fairly giant pile of money the Arkham games made, who knows, this might be a possibility.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on July 28, 2012, 08:14:01 AM
I'd love to think that WB saw the $$ that came in from the Avengers movie and Marvel franchise movies and is interested in a drive towards a Justice League movie in the same way - building individual movies and characters up in their own films, and the next Batman outing will be part of that.  However, things are so disorganized with the DC properties I think it's unlikely that it would come together well unless someone like Dini was involved in developing all the pieces.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: a pretty girl is like on July 28, 2012, 12:59:07 PM
I'd love to think that WB saw the $$ that came in from the Avengers movie and Marvel franchise movies and is interested in a drive towards a Justice League movie in the same way - building individual movies and characters up in their own films, and the next Batman outing will be part of that.  However, things are so disorganized with the DC properties I think it's unlikely that it would come together well unless someone like Dini was involved in developing all the pieces.

Marvel is going to get Rocket Raccoon in a major motion picture before WB can get anything going for Wonder Woman, The Flash, or another Green Lantern.  Someone at WB really needs to get fired for this.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 28, 2012, 01:12:33 PM
Here's some fodder for speculation.

Anne Hathaway on Catwoman spin-off: 'It would be lovely to see more' (http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a394706/anne-hathaway-on-catwoman-spin-off-it-would-be-lovely-to-see-more.html)

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Speaking to Digital Spy, the actress admitted that she would embrace a solo Catwoman movie if her Dark Knight Rises director Christopher Nolan was involved in the project.

"I think it would be lovely to see more of her but only if it's with the right people," Hathaway said. "She lives in this Gotham City and so it would have to be established by the people who have made this Gotham City. For me, at least."


Nolan previously said that Hathaway deserves to have her own Catwoman film based on her performance in Dark Knight Rises.

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The helmer, who has now concluded his work on the Batman franchise, described the actress's performance in the film as "incredible".

He told Access Hollywood: "Anne is incredibly precise and articulate about the psychology of the character. She's really built it from the ground up, it's just a delight to watch her perform, the things she does in those heels is not to be taken lightly."

When asked whether Hathaway's Selina Kyle should be given her own film, Nolan added: "I certainly think she deserves it, she's incredible."
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: gbeenie on July 28, 2012, 01:28:29 PM
I'd love to think that WB saw the $$ that came in from the Avengers movie and Marvel franchise movies and is interested in a drive towards a Justice League movie in the same way - building individual movies and characters up in their own films, and the next Batman outing will be part of that.  However, things are so disorganized with the DC properties I think it's unlikely that it would come together well unless someone like Dini was involved in developing all the pieces.

My worry is, if The Avengers ends up outperforming TDKR, that WB will hastily make a full-court press to get a Justice League movie out there, caution about doing it well be damned; that sort of thinking is what gave us Green Lantern.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on July 29, 2012, 06:28:37 PM
Lets not forget that it will take INCREDIBLE care to make a balanced film out of the Justice League.  One of the biggest pieces of praise for the Avengers was that none of the characters seemed superfluous.  Every one of the Avengers had a place and a role to fill.  Can we really handle that in The Justice League?  When you already have Superman, how do you make the rest of the characters feel needed?  Not saying its impossible, but it will be an incredible challenge.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on July 29, 2012, 06:35:45 PM
Lets not forget that it will take INCREDIBLE care to make a balanced film out of the Justice League.  One of the biggest pieces of praise for the Avengers was that none of the characters seemed superfluous.  Every one of the Avengers had a place and a role to fill.  Can we really handle that in The Justice League?  When you already have Superman, how do you make the rest of the characters feel needed?  Not saying its impossible, but it will be an incredible challenge.

(http://playeraffinity.com/images/justice_league.jpg)

Anything's possible with the right forces behind it. Avenger's had Whedon to pull itself together. WB just needs to find someone who really understands the comics and players involved to make it all work. And probably a few intro movies for them; they may just have to straight up copy Marvel's formula, but that was a formula that worked, so it's not like that's a bad thing.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: RoninFox on July 29, 2012, 06:51:06 PM
Lets not forget that it will take INCREDIBLE care to make a balanced film out of the Justice League.  One of the biggest pieces of praise for the Avengers was that none of the characters seemed superfluous.  Every one of the Avengers had a place and a role to fill.  Can we really handle that in The Justice League?  When you already have Superman, how do you make the rest of the characters feel needed?  Not saying its impossible, but it will be an incredible challenge.

(http://playeraffinity.com/images/justice_league.jpg)

Anything's possible with the right forces behind it. Avenger's had Whedon to pull itself together. WB just needs to find someone who really understands the comics and players involved to make it all work. And probably a few intro movies for them; they may just have to straight up copy Marvel's formula, but that was a formula that worked, so it's not like that's a bad thing.

As I said, not impossible.  Don't discount the huge advantage of having an ongoing series as opposed to a movie though.  With a series you can pick and choose which characters to bring into the forefront as they are needed, for a Justice League movie no one will be satisfied unless everyone has their time in the sun.

Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on July 29, 2012, 06:56:38 PM
I am hoping that DC & WB DON'T try to do the opposite of Marvel and start out with a Justice League movie. They have talked about that in the past, and it just would mean having to do tons of exposition to explain all of these characters.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 29, 2012, 10:38:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/1NRsPDhyHrc?version=3&hl=en_US

I dig these trailer mash-up deals. Some of them work really well.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Danecho1967 on August 01, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
As I said a few days ago, I have one problem with the movie.  It is a spoiler, so I will hide it.  If you haven't seen the movie yet, be warned, it gives away the ending.

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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tyrant on August 01, 2012, 11:14:18 PM
As I said a few days ago, I have one problem with the movie.  It is a spoiler, so I will hide it.  If you haven't seen the movie yet, be warned, it gives away the ending.

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 Well, he's Batman. I don't think further explanation is needed.  >:D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 02, 2012, 12:08:00 AM
Part of the art of cinema is also in part the art of deception. It's like magic, and if you believe it, then the filmmaker succeeded, as long as the deception is for a good reason. I believed
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"It's just a movie" isn't a valid reason anymore. It's not a satisfying answer because movies like the Nolan Batman trilogy is more than just a series of three movies, it's epic story-telling at it's finest. When you argue logic, I argue that if the story-telling is fine enough, emotionally gripping enough, the "logic" doesn't matter as much anymore. I can stretch my disbelief to the same extent that I respect the filmmaker and his/her vision.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mrbasehart on August 02, 2012, 03:41:06 AM
As I said a few days ago, I have one problem with the movie.  It is a spoiler, so I will hide it.  If you haven't seen the movie yet, be warned, it gives away the ending.

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I would say that the very last scene of the film is open to interpretation, considering how it mirrors the scene earlier in the film.  Perhaps its a little too perfect?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: ScottotD on August 02, 2012, 04:19:39 AM
I'm less "it's just a movie" and more "your mileage may vary"... it's the same as the end of Inception, No Country for Old Men, a computer game, etc, etc. 

While the ending itself may not fit your exacting ideas, it's the ending you have.  For the record, I sort of wanted Bruce Wayne to die but the fact he (probably) didn't doesn't take away from how much I enjoyed the ride of Dark Knight Rises.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Danecho1967 on August 02, 2012, 06:50:45 AM
Part of the art of cinema is also in part the art of deception. It's like magic, and if you believe it, then the filmmaker succeeded, as long as the deception is for a good reason. I believed
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"It's just a movie" isn't a valid reason anymore. It's not a satisfying answer because movies like the Nolan Batman trilogy is more than just a series of three movies, it's epic story-telling at it's finest. When you argue logic, I argue that if the story-telling is fine enough, emotionally gripping enough, the "logic" doesn't matter as much anymore. I can stretch my disbelief to the same extent that I respect the filmmaker and his/her vision.
Well, don't get me wrong.  I liked the ending, overall.  It felt "right" in that...

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Mostly my quibble was an opportunity to make the refrigerator joke.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: pezdrake on August 02, 2012, 09:53:55 AM
As I said a few days ago, I have one problem with the movie.  It is a spoiler, so I will hide it.  If you haven't seen the movie yet, be warned, it gives away the ending.

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 Well, he's Batman. I don't think further explanation is needed.  >:D

"I'm Batman."  'nuff said.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 02, 2012, 01:29:39 PM
As I said a few days ago, I have one problem with the movie.  It is a spoiler, so I will hide it.  If you haven't seen the movie yet, be warned, it gives away the ending.

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Well, he's Batman. I don't think further explanation is needed.  >:D
"I'm Batman."  'nuff said.
What?! "... I'm the Goddamn Batman!!!"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: mrbasehart on August 02, 2012, 01:41:23 PM
As I said a few days ago, I have one problem with the movie.  It is a spoiler, so I will hide it.  If you haven't seen the movie yet, be warned, it gives away the ending.

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 Well, he's Batman. I don't think further explanation is needed.  >:D

"I'm Batman."  'nuff said.

'nuff said is Stan Lee's sign off, while Batman is DC. 

YOU GOT IT WRONG.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Russell on August 02, 2012, 02:42:22 PM
As I said a few days ago, I have one problem with the movie.  It is a spoiler, so I will hide it.  If you haven't seen the movie yet, be warned, it gives away the ending.

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 Well, he's Batman. I don't think further explanation is needed.  >:D

"I'm Batman."  'nuff said.

'nuff said is Stan Lee's sign off, while Batman is DC. 

YOU GOT IT WRONG.
Heh, I can see Comic Book Guy saying that exact same thing.
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Post by: k1 on August 02, 2012, 04:12:38 PM
I thought it was "Excelsior!"
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 02, 2012, 05:30:11 PM
I thought it was "Excelsior!"
He has several phrases.
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Post by: a pretty girl is like on August 02, 2012, 06:46:42 PM
I thought it was "Excelsior!"
He has several phrases.

His other big phrase:  Ditko?  Kirby?  Who are they?
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Post by: Tripe on August 02, 2012, 06:49:04 PM
Man I was at an art gallery opening a couple of months ago and managed to turn it into a story time where the tragic fate of Kirby was relived for one and all, and for the life of my I don't even know how it got from abstract art to that. :D
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 05, 2012, 04:44:53 PM
Finally saw the movie and I loved it.  It ended on just the right note and even though it was almost 3 hours and
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it mostly flew by for me, thanks to the film's otherwise exciting pacing.

Part of the art of cinema is also in part the art of deception. It's like magic, and if you believe it, then the filmmaker succeeded, as long as the deception is for a good reason. I believed
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"It's just a movie" isn't a valid reason anymore. It's not a satisfying answer because movies like the Nolan Batman trilogy is more than just a series of three movies, it's epic story-telling at it's finest. When you argue logic, I argue that if the story-telling is fine enough, emotionally gripping enough, the "logic" doesn't matter as much anymore. I can stretch my disbelief to the same extent that I respect the filmmaker and his/her vision.
Well, don't get me wrong.  I liked the ending, overall.  It felt "right" in that...

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Mostly my quibble was an opportunity to make the refrigerator joke.

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Post by: Darth Geek on August 05, 2012, 04:59:01 PM
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Post by: Russell on August 05, 2012, 06:03:31 PM
Just saw it again today with my father... and I enjoyed it even better the second time, and even my dad liked it a LOT, and that usually doesn't happen given his notorious nature to forget important details in such a short amount of time.

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Post by: wurwolf on August 05, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
I think I am the only person in the world who thought this movie was just okay.
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Post by: Tripe on August 05, 2012, 06:58:00 PM
That's because I've not gotten around to seeing it yet. If I do, I'm pretty sure I'll be of the same opinion more or less. :)
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Post by: TheUnabeefer on August 05, 2012, 07:21:53 PM
I think I am the only person in the world who thought this movie was just okay.

I personally liked it better than The Dark Knight... but I am a sucker for Bane. (done right, that is) .... Also, I completely love that Nolan very apparently didn't try to "out-do" the level of intensity of TDK.  He kept it ramped up, but very simple.

I still like Batman Begins best though.
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Post by: ManUnderMask on August 06, 2012, 02:11:28 AM
I finally saw it today and I thought it was great, but it had a lot of lingering story problems that you only noticed when you sat down and thought about the movie.

I also think it suffered from the same problems that the Batman '89, Returns, Forever, and And Robin had: It spent waaaay too much time with the villains (or in this case, villains and side characters) and not enough time on Batman.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Henry88 on August 06, 2012, 06:35:59 AM
Warner Brothers Wants ‘Batman’ Reboot To Hit Theaters In 2016

http://www.latino-review.com/2012/08/03/warner-bros-batman-reboot-hit-theaters-2016/
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Post by: ScottotD on August 06, 2012, 06:49:11 AM
I think if you like Batman Begins more than Dark Knight I would expect you be more into Dark Knight Rises because thematically it's verrry similar to Begins.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 06, 2012, 07:11:25 AM
Warner Brothers Wants ‘Batman’ Reboot To Hit Theaters In 2016

http://www.latino-review.com/2012/08/03/warner-bros-batman-reboot-hit-theaters-2016/
Given that we knew this was going to be the last of this series, I am actually okay with this. I am just hoping they completely bypass the origin this time.
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2012, 07:15:04 AM
Well, I'd be surprised if the whole "great movie mom and dad..oh no!" bit wasn't touched on in passing but, from the sounds of it, the movie will have Bats already set up in his role.
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Post by: RoninFox on August 06, 2012, 10:37:54 AM
Saw it a second time. This time in IMAX. It makes a huge difference, the action scenes become so much more intense. I do think both the advantages and limitations of IMAX have improved the series. Because of the shallow focus it has, they had to be a lot more careful about moving the camera. This means they needed action that could play out and stand on its own instead of relying on quick cuts and extreme close ups.

One thing that was kind of cracking me up was a description Kevin Smith gave the movie on a podcast that I couldn't shake.

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Just gave me a chuckle or two, couldn't ruin the movie for me.
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Post by: Russell on August 06, 2012, 10:52:55 AM
Warner Brothers Wants ‘Batman’ Reboot To Hit Theaters In 2016
I'd rather see a JLA movie than a Batman reboot.
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Post by: RoninFox on August 06, 2012, 11:01:42 AM
Warner Brothers Wants ‘Batman’ Reboot To Hit Theaters In 2016
I'd rather see a JLA movie than a Batman reboot.

I think that's the eventual goal. Create a Batman that would meld with a JLA franchise more.
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2012, 11:16:10 AM
Right; it'd be a tad tricky to do a Nolan style Amazon, Martian and Kryptonian, not impossible*, but tricky.

* in fact it migh be fun to speculate how they could be done.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 06, 2012, 11:52:59 AM
Warner Brothers Wants ‘Batman’ Reboot To Hit Theaters In 2016
I'd rather see a JLA movie than a Batman reboot.

I think that's the eventual goal. Create a Batman that would meld with a JLA franchise more.

Honestly, part of the appeal (at least for me) in seeing a JLA movie is how a purely practical character like Batman would interact and work alongside fantastic characters like Superman and Wonder Woman. So I kind of wish it had been a Nolan style Batman in JLA.
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Post by: a pretty girl is like on August 06, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Right; it'd be a tad tricky to do a Nolan style Amazon, Martian and Kryptonian, not impossible*, but tricky.

* in fact it migh be fun to speculate how they could be done.

Wonder Woman would be easy.  Play up the original bondage angle some.  That would be rather timely.

Martian Manhunter could work as a noir/sci-fi hybrid using the John Jones identity. 

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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2012, 01:54:08 PM
Now do Supes
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Post by: a pretty girl is like on August 06, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
Now do Supes

I got nothing. 
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2012, 02:08:42 PM
Yeah, no matter how gritty you make him, he's still a dude put on a rocket ship by his parents to escape his home planet before it goes boom, made super powerful due to The Sun being solitary.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 06, 2012, 02:19:18 PM
Superman shouldn't be gritty. That's just not the kind of hero he is. And seeing him interact with Batman would be interesting, if done well.
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2012, 02:20:42 PM
You're missing the point of the game.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 06, 2012, 02:29:09 PM
You're missing the point of the game.
Oh, right. Okay.

Superman is not refered to as "Superman" at all in the movie. As a humorous reference to it, however, he is often greeted by people with " 'sup?" He wears a dark blue hoodie most of the time (no symbol, of course). In a humorous scene in the bedroom, we see that he does wear red underwear.


Did I get the game right?
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2012, 02:47:17 PM
Does that sound like something from a Nolan movie?
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 06, 2012, 03:40:51 PM
Superman has to consistently fight the urge to simply subjugate the entire planet and solve all their issues for them (basically the core of Red Son).  He is constantly torn between having unlimited power in a flawed and weak world only he patience and upbringing stand between humanity and death and tyranny at the hand of an alien. 

How is that for dark?
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2012, 03:49:35 PM
Much more Nolanesque, still a little nagical but probably workably so. :)

Hello again Sarc.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 06, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
Better question is what would a Wheaton and a Nolan superhero collaboration look like?

PS  Hello again lol
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 06, 2012, 04:29:19 PM
Better question is what would a Wheaton and a Nolan superhero collaboration look like?

(http://i.imgur.com/6ffzU.jpg)
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2012, 04:34:06 PM
People would be reminded not to be dicks but the realism would basically force most of the to indeed be dicks.
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Post by: RoninFox on August 06, 2012, 04:35:06 PM
Better question is what would a Wheaton and a Nolan superhero collaboration look like?

(http://i.imgur.com/6ffzU.jpg)

I would watch the hell out of that movie.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 06, 2012, 05:29:40 PM
Why the crap did i think Wil Wheaton when i meant Joss Wheden.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 06, 2012, 05:38:33 PM
Technically Ubermensch, I mean Superman should look good naked by definition.  Kinda like Michangealo's David.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on August 06, 2012, 08:50:12 PM
I think I am the only person in the world who thought this movie was just okay.

I'm with you here, probably my least favorite of the Nolan Batman movies... as I think the scripts have gone steadily downhill since Batman Begins.

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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 06, 2012, 08:54:25 PM
I think I am the only person in the world who thought this movie was just okay.

I'm with you here, probably my least favorite of the Nolan Batman movies... as I think the scripts have gone steadily downhill since Batman Begins.

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Yup i was pretty damned underwhelmed to, this guy sums it up well for me. 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/6064-The-Dark-Knight-Rises
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Post by: Russell on August 07, 2012, 02:48:37 AM
TDKR is far and away the best film to come out this year and it easily stands head and shoulders above many crime thrillers to come out over the past 3 decades or so. I would say American culture is getting spoiled, but great films like this are few and far between these days. Honestly, I could make some of the same complaints about something like say, The Godfather part 2. The plot is heavily convoluted, it's not easy to understand what's going on without repeated viewings, there's a lot of characters and events that require you to actively pay attention to everything that's going on every second of the film... but despite that, the story is still great, the acting is top notch, the world it portrays feels real and the narrative emotionally grips you.
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Post by: Tripe on August 07, 2012, 03:24:12 AM
I'm glad you enjoyed the movie, it's great when that happens, but it's also okay for others not to have enjoyed it as much as you did. :)
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on August 07, 2012, 05:53:56 AM
The Godfather series is a good comparison to the Nolan Batman movies... As stated, all films in both series feature good acting and strong technical attributes ... and both suffer from heavy handed and rather dull scripts for the sequels. I didn't think the story in either TDK or TDKR offered anything remotely surprising, or even very interesting, maybe we have seen it all before.

And it's not as if either one is a bad movie by any means... They offer entertainment in the same way most super hero movies do... in a visceral, good defeats evil chunk of pablum. Nolan likes to toy around with bigger ideas, pulling out the clown hammer and bonking you over the head with 20 minutes of "Big Brother is watching you" or "Class Warfare / Tale of Two Cities omg lol!" in the last two movies... but none of it means anything in the end.. and none of it required "actively paying attention" unless it was to expose how shallow the entire exercise was from the get-go. I was a little worried that I might miss some intricately woven and very important plot point while the bat-o-copter flew between skycrapers to avoid those missles for three minutes... guess I better plunk down ten more bucks... I mean, this actually does stand above most horseshit that Hollywood releases... so I guess it's a masterpiece via the backhanded compliment theorem. 
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 07, 2012, 06:39:30 AM
The Godfather series is a good comparison to the Nolan Batman movies... As stated, all films in both series feature good acting...

With one notable, painful exception.

http://www.youtube.com/v/2UYLVBwnzws?version=3&hl=en_US

"Dad?"
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 07, 2012, 06:43:28 AM
The Godfather series is a good comparison to the Nolan Batman movies... As stated, all films in both series feature good acting...

With one notable, painful exception.

http://www.youtube.com/v/2UYLVBwnzws?version=3&hl=en_US

"Dad?"
The equivelant of the "mah doogs are hoongrey!" guy.
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Post by: Tripe on August 07, 2012, 06:44:25 AM
Yeah, her acting is about as good as the sparkling wine named after her.

(http://hpr1.com/images/music/wine_hodowine_nikki_web.jpg)
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Post by: mrbasehart on August 07, 2012, 08:07:50 AM
More Nolan related than Batman, but he did mention in an interview recently that he'd love to do a Bond movie at some point. 

I still want a period Bond movie, set in the 60s.  Perhaps only someone like Tarantino - the great rip-off artist he is - could do something like that though.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 07, 2012, 08:09:38 AM
More Nolan related than Batman, but he did mention in an interview recently that he'd love to do a Bond movie at some point. 

I still want a period Bond movie, set in the 60s.  Perhaps only someone like Tarantino - the great rip-off artist he is - could do something like that though.
Joe Johnston would make a great period era Bond, I think.

And keep Tarentino the fuck AWAY from Bond!
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on August 07, 2012, 08:12:54 AM
I think Nolan would make a pretty good Bond director. The opening sequence of TDKR was practically a Bond love letter anyways.
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Post by: wurwolf on August 07, 2012, 08:21:19 AM
I think Inception ruined me for Christopher Nolan, and probably Memento as well. TDKR was ruined for me because I felt as though it was a little too much like Inception. He seems to like that puzzle wrapped within a riddle wrapped within an enigma thing a little too much for my liking. I'm afraid he'd do the same to Bond -- which has been, from its beginning, a fairly straightforward venture.
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Post by: wurwolf on August 07, 2012, 08:38:47 AM
I think Inception ruined me for Christopher Nolan, and probably Memento as well. TDKR was ruined for me because I felt as though it was a little too much like Inception. He seems to like that puzzle wrapped within a riddle wrapped within an enigma thing a little too much for my liking. I'm afraid he'd do the same to Bond -- which has been, from its beginning, a fairly straightforward venture.

Really? Even knowing the Bond movies from seeing them ad nauseam on TV, half the time I have no fucking idea what the overall plot is. I know the set-pieces, because that's how I think Bond works ("oh, this is the part where they get dragged behind the boat."  "Oh, this is the part where he runs across the alligators." Etc.)  But I think they're usually not very straightforward.

By that I mean with Bond films there is generally nothing to be unraveled, no mystery to unfold. They exist to show you fast cars, cool guns, softcore fighting techniques, snappy dialog, bizarre villains/henchmen, and women with heaving bosoms. I see Nolan getting a hold of the Bond-verse and turning it into some muddled mysterious thing that you're never quite sure about and leaves unanswered questions at the end.
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Post by: Tripe on August 07, 2012, 08:41:56 AM
Then you've obviously not been shocked at the revelation of the relationship between Mr Big and Dr. Kananga in Live And Let Die, I was amazed, amazed I say!
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Post by: ScottotD on August 07, 2012, 08:47:05 AM
I think Inception ruined me for Christopher Nolan, and probably Memento as well. TDKR was ruined for me because I felt as though it was a little too much like Inception. He seems to like that puzzle wrapped within a riddle wrapped within an enigma thing a little too much for my liking. I'm afraid he'd do the same to Bond -- which has been, from its beginning, a fairly straightforward venture.

Really? Even knowing the Bond movies from seeing them ad nauseam on TV, half the time I have no fucking idea what the overall plot is. I know the set-pieces, because that's how I think Bond works ("oh, this is the part where they get dragged behind the boat."  "Oh, this is the part where he runs across the alligators." Etc.)  But I think they're usually not very straightforward.

By that I mean with Bond films there is generally nothing to be unraveled, no mystery to unfold. They exist to show you fast cars, cool guns, softcore fighting techniques, snappy dialog, bizarre villains/henchmen, and women with heaving bosoms. I see Nolan getting a hold of the Bond-verse and turning it into some muddled mysterious thing that you're never quite sure about and leaves unanswered questions at the end.

Besides the ambiguous ending of Inception I can't imagine a Nolan movie leaving you confused.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 07, 2012, 09:13:38 AM
I think Inception ruined me for Christopher Nolan, and probably Memento as well. TDKR was ruined for me because I felt as though it was a little too much like Inception. He seems to like that puzzle wrapped within a riddle wrapped within an enigma thing a little too much for my liking. I'm afraid he'd do the same to Bond -- which has been, from its beginning, a fairly straightforward venture.
I see what you mean. I would like to see Nolan make a movie with a much more straighforward plot. That would just make how well thought out his movies usually are even better.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on August 07, 2012, 09:14:37 AM
Besides the ambiguous ending of Inception I can't imagine a Nolan movie leaving you confused.

I think Momento was designed to be confusing, it's really the main interesting thing going for it, the fucked up structure with the varying black and white versus color scenes breaking up the narrative. It certainly wasn't designed to be straightforward for the audience... and it was a gimmick that I didn't fully figure out until the final act.... and even then I had to watch it again a week or so later to confirm that I sorta had figured it out.

Inception on the other hand, wasn't quite as challenging, twist ambiguity at the end withstanding... In fact, the second time I watched the movie (for Rifftrax purposes) I was bored over long stretches... primarily when Leo spends 25 minutes explaining to the audience... errr Ellen Page... how the plot of the film was going to work. It was exposition on complete overdrive... necessary the first time out as to not leave the audience cold, but tough to sit through on a second viewing.
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Post by: wurwolf on August 07, 2012, 09:21:27 AM
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Nolan's film making. He's made some pretty amazing movies. Memento in particular was good for its starting at the end and working backwards theme. It's just not my thing at all, really, and I don't think his approach would work well for Bond.
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Post by: Nunyerbiz on August 07, 2012, 09:24:46 AM
I think he shoots action pretty well, doesn't indulge in Michael Bay/Bourne Identity shakycam... hasn't bowed down to framing everything for 3D... gets good performances from his actors... Maybe it could work better if he agreed to shoot somebody else's script... but I think his general style behind the lens would work fine.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 07, 2012, 09:32:39 AM
I do think that Nolan is smart enough to adjust his style to fit the characters and type of movie he is trying to make.
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Post by: wurwolf on August 07, 2012, 09:35:15 AM
I do think that Nolan is smart enough to adjust his style to fit the characters and type of movie he is trying to make.

Do you think, though, that there's enough meat in a Bond film for a director like him? God knows I love James Bond movies, but to be completely frank, they are kind of plain ol' dumb fun. Nolan seems to enjoy making movies with a psychological twist to them, and I just think it would be an unhappy pairing.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 07, 2012, 09:39:22 AM
I do think that Nolan is smart enough to adjust his style to fit the characters and type of movie he is trying to make.

Do you think, though, that there's enough meat in a Bond film for a director like him? God knows I love James Bond movies, but to be completely frank, they are kind of plain ol' dumb fun. Nolan seems to enjoy making movies with a psychological twist to them, and I just think it would be an unhappy pairing.
I do agree that Bond is just plain old fun. Which means that if Nolan did do a Bond movie, it would be him deliberately going out of his wheelhouse a little bit, and just having fun.
Or he could pull an Ang Lee HULK, and try way too hard on a relatively simple property, and fail miserably.
...either way, I think Quiptracks should riff it!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 07, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
I do think that Nolan is smart enough to adjust his style to fit the characters and type of movie he is trying to make.

Do you think, though, that there's enough meat in a Bond film for a director like him? God knows I love James Bond movies, but to be completely frank, they are kind of plain ol' dumb fun. Nolan seems to enjoy making movies with a psychological twist to them, and I just think it would be an unhappy pairing.

That's a really good point. Unless they want to take the overall Bond experience to an entirely different level, Nolan is complete overkill. If they brought him in to just do another standard Bond film (especially one written by someone else), I imagine he'd feel creatively boxed in and end up feeling unchallenged, perhaps even bored. In a way, it would be a waste of his talent. There are plenty of people more than capable of effectively shooting an action movie. Nolan is capable of bringing so much more to the table.

I'm a huge fan of Nolan, both as a writer and director, and I want to see him devote his time and energy to projects in which he has as close to complete creative freedom as a director can get.
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Post by: wurwolf on August 07, 2012, 10:40:04 AM
From tumblr:

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“Every great magic trick consists of three parts or acts. The first part is called The Pledge.The magician shows you something ordinary: a deck of cards, a bird or a man. He shows you this object. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it to see if it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course… it probably isn’t. The second act is called The Turn. The magician takes the ordinary something and makes it do something extraordinary. Now you’re looking for the secret… but you won’t find it, because of course you’re not really looking. You don’t really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn’t clap yet. Because making something disappear isn’t enough; you have to bring it back. That’s why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part we call The Prestige.”
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 07, 2012, 11:42:49 AM
An oldie but goodie, that is:

http://www.youtube.com/v/N3lKI83zN2k?version=3&hl=en_US

And a quick word on what folks have been discussing, Nolan is all about puzzle stuff but that doesn't mean he can't do a straightforward narrative. Insomnia is pretty cut-and-dry in that regard, and he still manages to make a damn fine film of it. Nolan's just usually a big fan of creating a very precise structure in a very unusual way (as seen in Memento or The Prestige). More power to him, I say, since he makes some damn interesting and spectacular stuff that way.
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Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 07, 2012, 12:49:04 PM
cut-and-dried, not *cut-and-dry.

Hear here.
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Post by: Russell on August 07, 2012, 02:32:51 PM
cut-and-dried, not *cut-and-dry.

Hear here.
I second that emotion.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on August 07, 2012, 02:54:13 PM
Yeah its as plain as the nose on the face.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 07, 2012, 08:08:34 PM
Yeah its as plain as the nose on the face.
Voldemort dislikes this (http://www.scientificamerican.com/media/inline/why-is-everyone-on-the-internet-so-angry_1_thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: The Lurker on August 12, 2012, 07:32:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/jJ5l5ls0hP4
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Post by: mearnest on August 13, 2012, 06:46:43 PM
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 13, 2012, 07:32:29 PM
I particularly like that you put it in a spoiler tag.
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Post by: mearnest on August 13, 2012, 07:35:26 PM
I particularly like that you put it in a spoiler tag.
Well, I didn't want to be a dick.
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Post by: Darth Geek on August 13, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nergol on August 14, 2012, 12:48:56 AM
This is a quibble, I acknowledge, but...

So Bane makes his big announcement at a home (presumably NFL) football game, so both the audience and everybody watching the game at home in Gotham will see what he's saying.

But as an NFL home game that wasn't sold out (and it certainly didn't look like it was), wouldn't that game have been blacked out? So... wouldn't that have kind of put a crimp in Bane's plan to use the game as a platform to have the whole city see what he was up to?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Relaxing Dragon on August 14, 2012, 01:22:36 AM
This is a quibble, I acknowledge, but...

So Bane makes his big announcement at a home (presumably NFL) football game, so both the audience and everybody watching the game at home in Gotham will see what he's saying.

But as an NFL home game that wasn't sold out (and it certainly didn't look like it was), wouldn't that game have been blacked out? So... wouldn't that have kind of put a crimp in Bane's plan to use the game as a platform to have the whole city see what he was up to?

Gotham takes pride in all its home games, and to hell with the standard NFL broadcasting standards!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on August 14, 2012, 03:16:11 AM
Shouldn't he have been forced to pause in the middle of his statements for some commercial messages, nothing is more powerful than the advertisers.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darth Geek on August 14, 2012, 05:54:07 AM
Shouldn't he have been forced to pause in the middle of his statements for some commercial messages, nothing is more powerful than the advertisers.
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on August 14, 2012, 05:57:33 AM
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Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: D.B. Barnes on November 16, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/4BjTsjgk3Lg?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Tripe on November 16, 2012, 07:41:42 PM
I'd watch it.