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Title: HERCULE POIROT
Post by: Rufus T on February 04, 2007, 10:28:47 PM
 Anybody a fan? Murder on the Orient Express is awesome. But I also like The Big Four and Elephants Can Remember.
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Post by: Trufire on February 04, 2007, 10:42:31 PM
While I never read the books, I have always loved the pbs show when they had it. Not the movie Poirot but the tv show guy. I can't remember his name but a superb actor. Defenitly my favorite detective. Besides the CSI people ;) Las Vegas that is since I don't really care for the others.
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Post by: PsypherPunk on February 05, 2007, 05:56:17 AM
I've never read any of Agatha Christie's works but was a huge fan of Poirot during the David Suchet years.
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Post by: BathTub on February 05, 2007, 06:10:16 AM
I certainly enjoyed the tv episodes I saw, but I never saw many of them.
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Post by: Bob on February 05, 2007, 06:23:44 AM
Albert Finney was outstanding in the Murder on the Orient Express.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 05, 2007, 01:14:33 PM
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While I never read the books, I have always loved the pbs show when they had it. Not the movie Poirot but the tv show guy. I can't remember his name but a superb actor. Defenitly my favorite detective. Besides the CSI people  Las Vegas that is since I don't really care for the others.

Screw poirot its all about jeremy brett as sherlock holmes.  AMAZING how he captured the role. 

poor guy suffered from bi polar, just like holmes really. 
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Post by: Rufus T on February 05, 2007, 03:33:25 PM
Albert Finney was outstanding in the Murder on the Orient Express.

 That he was good sir.
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While I never read the books, I have always loved the pbs show when they had it. Not the movie Poirot but the tv show guy. I can't remember his name but a superb actor. Defenitly my favorite detective. Besides the CSI people  Las Vegas that is since I don't really care for the others.

Screw poirot its all about jeremy brett as sherlock holmes.  AMAZING how he captured the role. 

poor guy suffered from bi polar, just like holmes really. 
How dare you insult the great Hercule Poirot! Holmes is nothing compared to the wonderful Poirot.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 05, 2007, 03:36:15 PM
mycroft could take poirot that mincing little frog ;)

Seriously though jeremy brett is a bad ass.
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Post by: J-Proof on February 05, 2007, 03:54:38 PM
Agatha is an awesome mystery author, and Poirot is one of the best detectives - he's like a Belgian version of Shaloub's(?) Monk character =)
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Post by: Rufus T on February 05, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
mycroft could take poirot that mincing little frog ;)

Seriously though jeremy brett is a bad ass.

 Poirot saved the entire world in The Big Four. Has Sherlock or Mycroft Holmes ever saved the world? Probably not. I have not seen Jeremy Brett's performance but I'm sure you're correct in the assesment of him being a bad ass.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 05, 2007, 04:26:16 PM
oh yeah he totally nails the role.  from the bi polar, to the dry sarcasm, to the thrill of the hunt.  He is really good, and very very much like the books.  My family is addicted to stuff like that.  My parents have every poirot and every sherlock on both DVD and on VHS all store bought.  I think he has saved the world once or twice depending on how you mean it.  how did poirot save the world in the big four?
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Post by: J-Proof on February 05, 2007, 04:33:06 PM
I don't really have a list for my favorite literary detectives yet, but I know that among the top are:

C. Auguste Dupin (Can't beat the first of his kind...)
Hercule Poirot (cowards make great detectives sometimes)
Miss Marple (cuz she's got spunk even though she's like, 98 years old)
Sherlock Holmes (gotta love the guy, arrogant as he is)
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Post by: chinton on February 05, 2007, 04:35:15 PM
I consider Murder On The Orient Express and And Then There Was None two of the best mysteries ever written.
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Post by: J-Proof on February 05, 2007, 04:42:41 PM
Both Agatha, no? Murder on the Orient Express only ticked me off a little because ALL of the suspects did it - which seemed a little too..... I dunno, cheap? Fun read though!

I couldn't even tell you my favorite Agatha Christie, they're all really good. Though of the top contenders is "Death on the Nile," "The Witness for the Prosecution" (also a killer movie), and "The Miror Crack'd"
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 05, 2007, 04:58:07 PM
nah the only murders i can stand are sir arthurs  :)
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Post by: J-Proof on February 05, 2007, 04:59:30 PM
nah the only murders i can stand are sir arthurs  :)

Arthur Conan Doyle mysteries are great because they involve more action than Christie's (usually). Sherlock is totally cool toating a revolver around and chasing Dr. M. over cliffs ;)
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 05, 2007, 05:00:38 PM
or chasing monkeys over rooftops, or playing fist i cuffs to some lout in a bar.  (one of the best scenes in all of Pbs by the way)
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Post by: chinton on February 05, 2007, 05:03:23 PM
That's what made Orient Express so memorable. I just loved the conclusion.
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Post by: Rufus T on February 05, 2007, 05:15:15 PM
oh yeah he totally nails the role.  from the bi polar, to the dry sarcasm, to the thrill of the hunt.  He is really good, and very very much like the books.  My family is addicted to stuff like that.  My parents have every poirot and every sherlock on both DVD and on VHS all store bought.  I think he has saved the world once or twice depending on how you mean it.  how did poirot save the world in the big four?

 How did he save the world? He stopped the big four. They were four people that were highly connected with several governments. They were going to use their influences to start a war that would affect every country on earth. Poirot stopped him. It was one of the few times Poirot actually found himself in physical danger. He was kidnapped and threatend with knives and guns. But his intellect prevailed.
I don't really have a list for my favorite literary detectives yet, but I know that among the top are:

C. Auguste Dupin (Can't beat the first of his kind...)
Hercule Poirot (cowards make great detectives sometimes)
Miss Marple (cuz she's got spunk even though she's like, 98 years old)
Sherlock Holmes (gotta love the guy, arrogant as he is)

Poirot wasn't a coward. He just wasn't the kind of guy to duke it out with another guy.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 05, 2007, 05:32:09 PM
well sherlocks got the bruce-partington papers In which he manages to get back secret government documents outlying how to build a submarine.  He kept it out of enemy hands.  and this is the only time there were many more.  The radio program if you want to count those he had lots to do during WWII 

"A common setting for uncanonical pieces pits Holmes and Watson against the Nazis. Most notable were the films made during the Second World War starring Basil Rathbone, but more recently The Curse of the Nibelung: A Sherlock Holmes Mystery. Such pieces were in the spirit of Conan Doyle's patriotism, and indeed the canonic "His Last Bow" describes Holmes and his connections with British Intelligence on the eve of the First World War."

And of course there is always his brother mycroft

This is what sherlock says about him

"The conclusions of every department are passed to him, and he is the central exchange, the clearinghouse, which makes out the balance. All other men are specialists, but his specialism is omniscience."

and then this

"The reader learns in this story that Mycroft's government job is a bit more important than Holmes earlier let on in The Adventure of the Greek Interpreter. Holmes even says that his brother sometimes is the British Government."

Clearly the sherlocks regardless of which should never be trifled with




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Post by: starfighter on February 05, 2007, 08:52:08 PM
    Haven't read a Poirot in awhile but I did like the way Christie had a final story for him after her death, "Curtain."

     I'm going to throw a softball question out here for whoever can answer it first.  Name the connection between a Sherlock Holmes novel and Star Trek VI.


   Edit:  trufire, not even close.   There's a real one degree of separation factoid about Holmes and ST6.  The director of Star Trek II and VI, Nick Meyer, wrote the Holmes novel "The Seven-Per-Cent Solution" a very successful book which was later filmed with Nicol Williamson as Holmes and Robert Duvall as Watson.
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Post by: Trufire on February 06, 2007, 06:32:30 AM
Both had lines containing that "The game's afoot!" Now what do I win ;)
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Post by: J-Proof on February 06, 2007, 10:13:30 AM
Poirot wasn't a coward. He just wasn't the kind of guy to duke it out with another guy.

Yeah I was just throwing unneccessary poo lol. And Basil Rathbone = best sherlock ever for film
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 06, 2007, 10:17:12 AM
I like basil a lot and all, but i know him more for his radio program.  Its all about brett.
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Post by: Rufus T on February 06, 2007, 12:05:02 PM
 Basil Rathbone was an awesome villain in The Mark of Zorro with Tyrone Power. That movie contains my favorite sword fighting scene off all time.
Title: Re: HERCULE POIROT
Post by: mrbasehart on February 06, 2007, 01:47:43 PM
Basil Rathbone was an awesome villain in The Mark of Zorro with Tyrone Power. That movie contains my favorite sword fighting scene off all time.

That's a great movie.  Linda Darnell is gorgeous.   ;)

Personally, my favourite Detective is Phillip Marlowe.  The guy just keeps on getting beaten up, but won't stop. 
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Post by: J-Proof on February 06, 2007, 01:57:10 PM
Basil Rathbone was an awesome villain in The Mark of Zorro with Tyrone Power. That movie contains my favorite sword fighting scene off all time.

We are the ones that remastered that movie and colorized it as well.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 06, 2007, 01:59:28 PM
define we mr internet mod ;)



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Post by: BathTub on February 06, 2007, 02:28:55 PM
http://www.legendfilms.net/
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Post by: Rufus T on February 06, 2007, 02:53:53 PM
Basil Rathbone was an awesome villain in The Mark of Zorro with Tyrone Power. That movie contains my favorite sword fighting scene off all time.

That's a great movie.  Linda Darnell is gorgeous.   ;)

Personally, my favourite Detective is Phillip Marlowe.  The guy just keeps on getting beaten up, but won't stop. 

 Marlowe is pretty cool. My second favorite detective is Nick Charles from The Thin Man stories. I admire the guts of the story to trivialize the fact that the main character is an alcoholic. Humor about alcoholism just doesn't fly today. Anyway, the character of Nick Charles is cool. And of course the banter between him and his wife Nora is quite humorous.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 06, 2007, 05:11:44 PM
they trivialized holmes' heroine addiction
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Post by: Trufire on February 06, 2007, 05:36:04 PM
That's because when the books were written, it was the "in" thing to do :-P ::)
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 06, 2007, 05:39:03 PM
yes but oddly enough in fact screw ill just copy wiki ;)

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Modern readers of the Holmes stories are apt to be surprised that he was an occasional user (a habitual user when lacking in stimulating cases) of cocaine and morphine, though Watson describes this as Holmes' "only vice". Eventually, as recorded in "The Adventure of the Missing Three-Quarter", Watson was gradually able to convince Holmes to discontinue the use of these drugs:

"For years I had gradually weaned him from that drug mania which had threatened once to check his remarkable career. Now I knew that under ordinary conditions he no longer craved for this artificial stimulus, but I was well aware that the fiend was not dead, but sleeping."

Given that cocaine and morphine-related drugs like heroin were not yet illegal in the Victorian era and could be openly bought and sold for medical purposes, Watson was arguably ahead of his time in recognizing their dangers.


Interesting i thought
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Post by: lassieface on February 12, 2007, 09:37:06 AM
I'm reading Muder on the Orient Express right now. It's really good and the humor is almost ahead of its time.
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Post by: Jinto on February 14, 2007, 05:05:09 PM
What I find incredibly amusing is that an anime based on Agatha Christie's novels was made. The target audience seems to be children, so it's kid safe. It's simplistic really, but not bad if you're into these kinds of detective and mystery stories. The major problem with the series, however, is the inclusion of an incredibly annoying pet duck belonging to a young girl named Mable West, included as an original character, who is related to Mable (or Marple, whatever) and works for Poirot (in other words, she creates a link between those two characters). More info can be found here:

http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=2161 (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=2161)
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Post by: Jinto on February 14, 2007, 05:10:56 PM
Oh, and Sherlock Holmes is the greatest detective in fiction ever, hands down. You're nuts if you think otherwise. :P

Also, Jeremy Brett was, and forever shall be, the best Sherlock Holmes in film or television. No question, no discussion. It is simple, undeniable, universal fact. ;D