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Title: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: Johnny_Short_Torso on February 04, 2007, 07:27:12 PM
What is that line supposed to mean? Did George Lucas hear one of his children blurt out the line one day and decide it was cute enough for the future sith lord to say ???
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on February 04, 2007, 08:08:27 PM
One reason. To convince the audience that Darth Vader was once a regular human being.

Too bad it didn't work out so well, eh George?
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: BBQ Platypus on February 04, 2007, 10:45:59 PM
I don't think anything in the movie worked out too well.  Hell, one can argue that the entire prequel trilogy didn't work out too well.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: mrbasehart on February 05, 2007, 03:30:49 AM
He says it because although he's a slave, he's a person.  I think it points to Anakin's strength of character, and perhaps the eventual pride and quick anger that leads him to the dark side.  Still, it's a lousy line.   ;)
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: Johnny_Short_Torso on February 06, 2007, 12:29:23 AM
I always envisioned Anakin as a hotheaded teenager who was good at heart but believed the best way to achieve his goals was through bullying and violence, thus never had much remorse for any of his actions. I think the prequels would have been much better movies if he was like that.
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Post by: Ranika on February 06, 2007, 02:32:42 AM
If Anakin had been a much more anxious and strong-minded child, it'd have worked. But really, the kid was like 'I'm not a slave anymore, I'm free but mom can't come. Bye mom, I guess I'll randomly mature as an over-anxious, angry child, despite my previous characterization not justifying this at all'.

I think, solely on story, it would've worked better if young Anakin wasn't more or less a little mommy's boy, or had some other facet to his personality. The Padme-Anakin love story, if written with remote believability could have worked, but, no, it was terrible. He just seems to arbitrarily determine he'll be go to the darkside. Little is spent with actual mulling over the consequences (his thinking over his own possible death at the hand's of the Jedi, and thus his child growing up fatherless might have maybe been a good bit, thoughts?) of his seemingly random choice (did he ever consider simply owning up to the Jedi order and the subsequent consequences and asking for help? Could be a derivative of the aforementioned psychological problem he'd have). I mean, being a Jedi seems a pretty damn big commitment, you think he'd consider such things at some point, as opposed to 'I'll just abandon this lifelong commitment suddenly without seeking another solution that may prove as useful to me'.

I do not 'hate' the Phantom Menace, or the prequels in general, but I am amazed at the poor thinking behind a good chunk of it.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: MSTJedi on March 25, 2007, 06:12:53 AM
I just think it would've been much better if they'd started out with Anakin at 12 or 13. Then you get him in that critical point between child and man and there wouldn't have been so much childish goofiness. It would've made TPM much easier to watch in the end . . . especially because Jake Lloyd wouldn't have been Anakin.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: Pak-Man on March 25, 2007, 11:11:03 AM
I think the whole point of young Anakin was to show that Vader was once a happy-go-lucky. caring boy who shouted "Yipee!" It shows how powerfully the dark side consumed him and it's the best glimpse we get of the "Good" in Darth Vader that Luke's always going on about.
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Post by: AmandaGal on March 25, 2007, 11:12:31 AM
I think the point was that the kid came cheaper than a real actor.
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Post by: Sharktopus on March 25, 2007, 10:38:18 PM
Little is spent with actual mulling over the consequences (his thinking over his own possible death at the hand's of the Jedi, and thus his child growing up fatherless might have maybe been a good bit, thoughts?)

That could speak to the arrogance he'd developed over years of being told he's the chosen one, and best at everything ever.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on March 26, 2007, 12:55:16 PM
Little is spent with actual mulling over the consequences (his thinking over his own possible death at the hand's of the Jedi, and thus his child growing up fatherless might have maybe been a good bit, thoughts?)

That could speak to the arrogance he'd developed over years of being told he's the chosen one, and best at everything ever.

Y'know, Harry Potter was faced with essentially the same thing, yet he doesn't use his assumed power as an excuse to get whatever he wants!

So there...
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: MSTJedi on March 26, 2007, 06:54:28 PM
The main difference between Harry and Ani is that Harry somehow ended up for the most part humble and unassuming while Anakin ended up prideful and possessive. How Harry turned out that way being raised by his Aunt and Uncle is just a fluke of some kind, it seems. Anakin picked up the pride from the other Jedi of his time. His possessiveness came out of that pride in that he felt that it should be in his power to be able to hold onto people and things that he should let go.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on March 26, 2007, 07:01:47 PM
It might have something to do with their inate personalities, but I bet it also has something to do with Harry being raised to believe he's nothing special while Anakin is hailed as the chosen one as soon as he's removed from his little mud hut. Plus Harry was old enough to reason that he wasn't responsible for his fame when he found out, and Anakin wasn't.

Dear god, I remember the Harry Potter books.   :-X
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: MSTJedi on March 26, 2007, 07:05:27 PM
Don't be too ashamed. I'm an adult male who is inexplicably entertained by Harry Potter. Well, maybe at least know you're not alone.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on March 26, 2007, 07:07:19 PM
I loved them in my early teens, and I'm just surprised the knowledge has stuck with me. I wonder how much I remember Pokemon deep down in my subconscious.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: MSTJedi on March 26, 2007, 07:14:49 PM
At least you weren't into Piers Anthony books like I was. Still can't quite figure that one out.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: Reductio_ad_absurdum on March 26, 2007, 07:23:07 PM
I loved them in my early teens, and I'm just surprised the knowledge has stuck with me. I wonder how much I remember Pokemon deep down in my subconscious.

Oh how I wish those memories weren't there.  I can't get the cheesy bicycle tune out of my head!
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on March 26, 2007, 07:25:24 PM
Doooo doo doo doo doo doo doooo doo dooo dooo!  ;D
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: Reductio_ad_absurdum on March 26, 2007, 07:29:48 PM
Doooo doo doo doo doo doo doooo doo dooo dooo!  ;D

You are a barbarian.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on March 26, 2007, 07:33:30 PM
To slay your enemy, to drive him before you, to hear the 8-bit bicycle tune...
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on March 27, 2007, 01:36:05 AM
cant i got to go see that ballet with marge!  *makes funny face

Oh your gonna go see the bear in the car huh? 

huh?
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: 6079SmithW on March 27, 2007, 01:47:32 AM
At least you weren't into Piers Anthony books like I was. Still can't quite figure that one out.
My main email address still has the word 'xanth' in it because I've had it since 6th grade. Fortunately, pretty much everyone just thinks it's a nonsense word (or that I'm really into the color yellow.)
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: MSTJedi on March 27, 2007, 06:42:39 AM
Yeah, I just had pun overload after a while and the books stopped being entertaining. I'd like to think MST3K helped me with that. Sarcasm is so much better than silly wordplay . . . not that they didn't stoop to that every now and then in MST3K. At least when they did someone usually got hurt for it. It's good to see Rifftrax is carrying on that fine tradition. Pun is for punishment.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: 6079SmithW on March 27, 2007, 07:59:16 AM
Yeah, I just had pun overload after a while and the books stopped being entertaining. I'd like to think MST3K helped me with that. Sarcasm is so much better than silly wordplay . . . not that they didn't stoop to that every now and then in MST3K. At least when they did someone usually got hurt for it. It's good to see Rifftrax is carrying on that fine tradition. Pun is for punishment.
I decided I hated Piers Anthony when he justified his incredibly shitty puns on the grounds that (I'm paraphrasing from memory) "critics don't get the good ones, so I have to stick to obvious ones." Seriously, the layers of jerk in a statement like that are like geological strata, they go down for miles.
Title: Re: "I'm a person and my name is Anakin!"
Post by: timechaser on April 02, 2007, 03:33:52 PM
For some reason this line reminds me of the "I'm a woozle and my name is peanut" riff from the Giant Spider Invasion episode.