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Title: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on September 16, 2010, 11:13:40 AM
If you are unfamiliar with the source material, go read these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire). You can thank me after your fourth re-read for your new addiction. GO!

For the rest of us, it's time for an official thread because there is now enough info and media out there to get the hype machine rolling on here.

First, an official teaser trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/v/FAZzCFPcLoo&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1

And some behind the scenes:
http://www.youtube.com/v/zjY6QnOPcoI&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1

Official site for the show: http://www.hbo.com/#/game-of-thrones

Great blog entry from the creators of the show, talking about how they came upon the series:
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/a-note-from-the-series-creators.html
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I think everything looks and sounds good, but I really hope that the final product has more use of natural light instead of the washed out/stylized lighting that they use in the trailer.

Also, any bets on whether the 5th book will be out before the show starts? :P
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on November 19, 2010, 04:06:33 PM
Lots of new bits since my last post.

First some behind the scenes featurettes:
http://www.youtube.com/v/FJTFmZHvaNo?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/GQZ4uwQRxkM?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/cgAd7MfPrj8?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/0Wub12IZmVY?fs=1&hl=en_US


Then this week EW put up the first run of production shots:
http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20385926_20442931,00.html

I'm officially excited.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on November 29, 2010, 07:59:07 AM
More! Now with actual show footage:
http://www.youtube.com/v/eNhgIjyEock?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/atFX6keD95o?fs=1&hl=en_US

I will keep this thread alive until more than just Imrahil and I give a shit! :P
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on November 29, 2010, 08:46:29 AM
I'm very excited for this.  Visually it looks pretty spot on, and Sean Bean is usually pretty awesome in these kinds of roles. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on November 29, 2010, 10:12:11 AM
Never heard of the books and I dont really go in for fantasy type stuff (LOTR movies were the exception).   The previews I have seen on HBO look quite good, so I am looking forward to this.   As far as I know going in, looks to be set in medival times and there is a lot of murder and plotting going on......
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: torgosPizza on November 29, 2010, 10:16:44 AM
I'm halfway through the first book... and this looks awesome. *Pushes glasses up so I can finish GoT*
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on April 14, 2011, 07:33:09 AM

So excited for Sunday! I wanna rock Castle Black.

Santa really does exist...baseball, Who, and this! Awesome times.  :)

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Post by: a pretty girl is like on April 18, 2011, 03:34:53 AM
Well that was a decent first episode.  Wasn't as cringey as I thought it would be.  There'd better be way more classy smut in future episodes because the tons of exposition is waaaaaaaaaaay boring.

Things I liked: Mark Addy and Sean Bean
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
and Peter Dinklage and those adorable werepuppies.
Kinda awkward: The Dothraki.  Yikes, they're embarrassing. And the horrible wigs and dye jobs.  I get that they're trying to be book accurate but I guess they spent all the money on that badass/ridonkulous dog helmet on Ser Dog Helmet.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 18, 2011, 06:29:38 AM
Never read the books but I watched this with ^ last night. It wasn't bad. Exposition is always tiresome, but once it settles down the series promises to be compelling. Loving all the tits and ass and boning so far.

Hee hee...

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on April 18, 2011, 06:47:32 AM
Haha, not at all. It did have 'problems' - nothing is complete sacred cow territory. I expected liberties with the source material to be taken and will never bitch about that...mostly, but they did leave out my favorite line from the book. "But you killed him." "Only once." between Ned and Robert in the crypt. Aside from that...meh, they failed to really capture the intimacy between Ned and Cat and how tender their relationship is. The Danni scenes were ULTRA cheesy. It definitely needs some breathing room, just like any new series, but I'm hopeful. Not even close to perfect, but I'm satisfied.
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Post by: Thrashalla on April 18, 2011, 08:04:51 AM
Dani is one of my fav characters in the books, actually. So that was kind of disappointing.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 18, 2011, 10:09:39 AM
Also I thought the opening credits were fantastic (I notice those things). I liked how it looked like some sort of German-style tabletop game done in clockwork, and I thought it lent itself well to the premise of the series while being visually striking. The music was great, too.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 18, 2011, 05:37:04 PM
Also I thought the opening credits were fantastic (I notice those things). I liked how it looked like some sort of German-style tabletop game done in clockwork, and I thought it lent itself well to the premise of the series while being visually striking. The music was great, too.

Never read the books, so I figured the opening would be a clever way of giving a "Cliff Note" version of the universe they live in...... very well done.

The pilot eposide HAS to have exposition or no one knows what the hell is going on.   So far, very enoyable.

Oh, and I love how the idiot from Master Ninja is now a very good director.   His listing in IMDB is very impressive.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 18, 2011, 07:53:29 PM
Oh, and I love how the idiot from Master Ninja is now a very good director.   His listing in IMDB is very impressive.

He and Fred Savage top my list of "Directors That Make Me Go 'Buh-WHAAAA?' When I See Their Name"
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on April 19, 2011, 09:36:45 AM
W00t! Second season has already been green-lit!
http://grrm.livejournal.com/211736.html
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on April 19, 2011, 10:25:31 AM
Just started reading.  I've enjoyed it so far.  I can't watch something then read it, so I'm trying to read things before I see them in the show.  The show seems so well done, though, that I can't help but feel like just watching.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on April 19, 2011, 05:50:11 PM
Add me to the list of those who thought it was impressive.  They've gotten the look of everything just how it should be, some of the performances were spot on, and it ended probably where it should for the first episode.  I think they might have rewritten Tyrion's character slightly at the beginning though, considering how much he'll come to the fore in the following seasons.  Nice to see that Jamie's still a gigantic asshole, though.  I wonder who they'd cast as Brianna - that'll be a challenge.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on April 24, 2011, 06:03:33 PM
Well, Dani is easily the worst character in the books. 

Worse than her older brother?

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I happen to like Dany, too.   :)

I'm just about finished w/ the first book, and it rocked my world. I'm not going to start CoK until June, but I'm highly anticipating it. Alright, more Kingslayer douchiness tonight! Woo!!

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 25, 2011, 11:43:51 AM
I really need to stop clicking the spoiler tags in this thread!  :angry:
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on April 25, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
same here lol  im with ya wurwolf
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on April 25, 2011, 12:30:39 PM
Me too.  I keep thinking that since I'm caught up with the show, spoilers don't matter.  I resisted the urge to click on Imrahil's spoiler, at least.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on April 25, 2011, 12:35:10 PM
Better?

Now I want to click on it even more.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on April 25, 2011, 12:35:46 PM
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Better

My glasses are pretty thick, could make the font a sqosh bigger
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 25, 2011, 12:53:41 PM
Haha, better. That angry emoticon was mostly directed at myself because I know I can't resist clicking the spoilers.

Great thing about having a lousy memory, though -- I forget everything within a half hour of reading it.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on April 25, 2011, 04:48:11 PM
Watched the second episode last night.   Not a bad show, but since i've never read the books and i have no clue where the story is going,  i was confused as hell at the mile a minute exposition that the pilot episode was doing.  Thankfully, the second episode slowed things down a bit and you were able to feel out these characters a bit.  I'm still on the fence about the show, but last nights episode kept me interested enough to make up for the confusing as hell first episode.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 25, 2011, 05:25:22 PM
I agree that the first episode was very confusing. After it ended I was like, Well, I liked the fucking! But then I read up on it a little on the internet (thank you, TWOP recap and forums) and by the time the second episode aired I felt like I had a pretty good handle on who was who and what was going on.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 25, 2011, 05:34:20 PM
Absolutely. Another reason those recaps are great is that I have a hard time understanding what is being said, so then I read the recap and I'm like, Ohhh, so that's what that was all about.

I suppose I could just read the books, but if I read further ahead than the tv show it would spoil it for me.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 25, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
I think after the end of the first season I might pick up the first book to read it. Onil has them all, the huge nerd, so they're just sitting in my house.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on April 26, 2011, 07:05:28 AM
I would like to disagree about as passionately, and emphatically as one possibly could about both Martin's prose being nothing fancy (which I admit is subjective once you get past 'competent') and about losing nothing if you don't read the books. The changes have been subtle, but they're extreme enough where I'm now treating the book and the show as separate entities. The show is still good, but as Imrahil said, they've given the characters moral facelifts...this is a bad thing in my book, as the nastiness, the ambiguity, all of that wonderful self-serving ego were major draws for me. I've quite literally cringed when I've seen them pull punches.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on April 26, 2011, 02:02:37 PM
I would like to disagree about as passionately, and emphatically as one possibly could about both Martin's prose being nothing fancy (which I admit is subjective once you get past 'competent') and about losing nothing if you don't read the books. The changes have been subtle, but they're extreme enough where I'm now treating the book and the show as separate entities. The show is still good, but as Imrahil said, they've given the characters moral facelifts...this is a bad thing in my book, as the nastiness, the ambiguity, all of that wonderful self-serving ego were major draws for me. I've quite literally cringed when I've seen them pull punches.

I agree completely.  And I also find it baffling why HBO would do this in the first place.  It's not like they haven't had other successful shows with utterly vile and morally reprehensible lead characters.  This is right in their wheelhouse and it's strange for them to make such changes.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on April 26, 2011, 02:42:08 PM
I don't know...I think 5 would be a generous estimate, haha. As for the rest; they might be fuckbags, but they're good at it and they're entertaining. Killing them off would deprive us of further fuckbaggery...and then I would be sad. :( <- see, sad. I'm just drawn to brutality and deplorable human behavior. the less I can relate to a character, it seems, the better.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 27, 2011, 06:54:04 AM
I would like to disagree about as passionately, and emphatically as one possibly could about both Martin's prose being nothing fancy (which I admit is subjective once you get past 'competent') and about losing nothing if you don't read the books. The changes have been subtle, but they're extreme enough where I'm now treating the book and the show as separate entities. The show is still good, but as Imrahil said, they've given the characters moral facelifts...this is a bad thing in my book, as the nastiness, the ambiguity, all of that wonderful self-serving ego were major draws for me. I've quite literally cringed when I've seen them pull punches.

I agree completely.  And I also find it baffling why HBO would do this in the first place.  It's not like they haven't had other successful shows with utterly vile and morally reprehensible lead characters.  This is right in their wheelhouse and it's strange for them to make such changes.

Maybe it's because there's so much ground to cover that the excessive villainy has been dropped. They're sacrificing character development in order to keep the story moving.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 01, 2011, 04:40:37 PM
Never read the books and I did not find the pilot episode confusing.   Maybe because the opening credits did such a good job of showing the layout of the all the towns (which probably filled up numerous uber-nerd pages in the books!   :P)

So far, enjoying it.   

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TTYT on May 02, 2011, 01:00:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GiqZ0.gif)
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Post by: wurwolf on May 02, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
That gif rules. Peter Dinklage rules.
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Post by: Bob on May 04, 2011, 04:54:53 PM
Wow, LOTS of back story in that episode!

I felt like I needed to take note.
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Post by: wurwolf on May 05, 2011, 02:49:43 PM
I made a little T-shirt design today based on this:
http://www.zazzle.com/lannisters_keep_it_in_the_family_tshirt-235044463530929331

I thought about using wurwolf'd "Twincest" as a header, but figured that'd probably be less t-shirt friendly.  Still, might do it as a variant, until they yank it for copyright infringement.

HAHAHAHA that's awesome!  :clap:
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 07, 2011, 07:47:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GiqZ0.gif)

Let's ramp up the Tyrion-ownage of the Joff:

http://www.youtube.com/v/qYNeT2nzEgA?fs=1

Loving the show, and could've the "water dance" been portrayed anymore perfect?

But damn, did the first book rule. From Arya's final story on, that was amazing. I immediately had to delve into CoK. What an addicting series!   :)

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Nergol on May 11, 2011, 12:26:27 AM
*SPOILER*

(I haven't read the books, so I don't know the story farther ahead than the current episode)

Just finished episode 4, and...

I'm guessing that Lady Stark may have overplayed her hand a bit having Tyrion arrested. She'd need some very solid evidence to go after a Lannister, and all she has is a secondhand story that the dagger used to attack Bram was owned by Tyrion at one point. So the Lannisters can just say he lost it, or gambled it away again, or that it was stolen. Case closed. After all, not only do the Lannisters have no apparent motive for attacking Bram (as long as he doesn't remember what he saw in the tower), but Tyrion especially doesn't.

This could put Ned in a very, very bad spot, just when he doesn't need it.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 11, 2011, 05:20:18 AM
Still enjoying the show, but having a devil of a time remembering who anyone's name actually is as all the characters have these "fantasy sounding" first names.   I know you have to keep them all with the same names as the books, but to those of us who have not read the books, it makes it all very confusing.

And who was the guy they said was the enouch?   I could not catch the name and went to IMDB and could not find anyone close.

Thanks.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 11, 2011, 05:40:36 AM

And who was the guy they said was the enouch?   I could not catch the name and went to IMDB and could not find anyone close.

Thanks.

That would be Varys.   

Finally, a Hodor sighting this past Sunday. Yes.   

I cannot wait for the Eyrie ascent, and later on, sky cells! Massive ownage possibly on its way!   :)

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 11, 2011, 05:50:12 AM

And who was the guy they said was the enouch?   I could not catch the name and went to IMDB and could not find anyone close.

Thanks.

That would be Varys.   

Finally, a Hodor sighting this past Sunday. Yes.   

I cannot wait for the Eyrie ascent, and later on, sky cells! Massive ownage possibly on its way!   :)



Varys.... cannot find the character in the listing in IMDB..... who is that that again?

Thanks.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 11, 2011, 06:06:15 AM

He's a part of the King's small council and known as the "master of whisperers". He hears everything, and is quite the wildcard in GoT.

Rockin' character.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 11, 2011, 07:44:15 AM
Still enjoying the show, but having a devil of a time remembering who anyone's name actually is as all the characters have these "fantasy sounding" first names.

Like "Catelyn" and "Jaime" and "Ned"? Yeah, I hear you.

Cersei, Tywin, Ser, Daenerys, Viserys..... yeah, those are a bit much for the casual viewer.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 11, 2011, 08:29:45 AM
This IMDB page begs to differ

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/fullcredits#cast (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/fullcredits#cast)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 11, 2011, 09:19:47 AM
Yeah, I guess of those 32 names about 20 don't have equivalents.  But they're minor characters generally--do you even hear "Irri" or "Luwin"?

Ha-ha, let me check my many pages of detailed notes!

Not impossible to follow, but this one IS a bit rough for the casual viewer who has never heard of the books.    But I am enjoying the heck out of it.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Nergol on May 16, 2011, 12:10:28 AM
So yeah... Episode 5.

What was that I was saying about Lady Stark doing something rash and impulsive that could only end badly?

There was a lot of rashness and impulsiveness in this episode, actually. It was rash and impulsive of Robert to not listen to Ned, and of Ned to quit on the spot. It was rash and impulsive of Jaime to confront Ned in the street like that, especially in front of someone who deals in information. It was rash and impulsive of Loras Tyrell to put thoughts of being king into Renly's head. It was rash and impulsive of Varys and Littlefinger to confront each other, setting up a confrontation.

The conversation between Cersei and Robert may have been the highlight of a very brutal, but very great episode.

I wonder how they pulled off that scene of a boy who had to be five or six years old sucking on a bare breast. Or at least, how they did that without facing legal problems.

It's just not letting up one bit... and it's great.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on May 16, 2011, 06:36:40 AM
Yeah, while i'm not exactly condoning breastfeeding after a child is past six months, the simple act of breast feeding isn't sexual at all.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Nergol on May 16, 2011, 11:12:05 PM
Seen on Twitter: @Jon_Favreau: Let's save time and just give Peter Dinklage an Emmy right now. #gameofthrones

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 17, 2011, 07:19:34 AM
Not impossible to follow, but this one IS a bit rough for the casual viewer who has never heard of the books.    But I am enjoying the heck out of it.

Agreed, I never read the books, either, so it's hard to sort out all of the characters, but what makes it even more difficult is the unusual names. Two things have helped me in that regard: one, I read the recaps and some of the forums over at Television Without Pity (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/game-of-thrones/) and it's helped me get a handle on the dialog (the accents are tricky for me, too), the plot and the characters. Two, the houses are color-coded by hair, for the most part. It's easy to remember that Daenerys and Viserys are siblings because they have the same hair; this is true of the Lannisters as well. The Starks are easy to figure out because they all wear wolf skins.

I wonder how they pulled off that scene of a boy who had to be five or six years old sucking on a bare breast. Or at least, how they did that without facing legal problems.

I was wondering that as well, and I kind of figured that it was a fake breast and not the woman's real breast.

Yeah, while i'm not exactly condoning breastfeeding after a child is past six months, the simple act of breast feeding isn't sexual at all.

According to WHO: "On a population basis, exclusive breastfeeding for the first six months of life is the recommended way of feeding infants, followed by continued breastfeeding with appropriate complementary foods for up to two years or beyond." Cutting a baby off after six months seems a little extreme, but yeah, that kid was way too old to be nursing. I kind of liked it, because it set up how creepy and crazy Catelyn's sister is. I loved the looks on everyone's faces as they stood there before her. Disbelief, shock, revulsion, and then, "Oh shit, we're screwed."

And YES, a million times over, Peter Dinklage is just kicking so much ass in this show. Every time he's on, the scene lights up. He's fantastic.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Compound on May 17, 2011, 09:49:42 AM
Okay, just popping my head in for a sec.  I enjoy the books, but no HBO so I'm trying to see as little about the series as possible until it hits DVD so that I can actually watch it. However, I'm glad that the show's success is allowing formerly real inside baseball references like this to actually become understandable to a wider swath of the public:

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Now I suppose the Schwarzenegger child will adopt the surname Snow and go serve on The Wall.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 17, 2011, 03:19:57 PM
Well hello, unhinged Lysa Arryn!  :D

This episode was packed w/ so many goodies. I still cannot believe they showed Ser Gregor beheading his horse after being knocked down by the Knight of Flowers. It was as brutal as it was depicted in the book, and a "holy shit" moment in both mediums. The sky cells, ruled. However, I was momentarily bummed they didn't show why the Eyrie is so impregnable, via its waycastles (Stone, Snow, Sky). It really captured my imagination while reading it, and if I was at war in Westeros, that's where I want to hang. Riverrun isn't too shabby, too.

One more thing concerning the Eyrie, it was neat seeing its addition to the opening credit's sequence. Very cool.

I loved how the narrative played out as "Ned Stark's Bad Day". The dude gets pulverized in this episode.

The additional King Robert/Queen Cersei discourse was a nice touch. It felt organic, but in the book it obviously wouldn't have worked b/c we didn't have neither of their point-of-views. Nevertheless, a nice touch.

Best episode to date up until next weeks, when a certain someone gets his golden crown! I've gotta go find some confetti!!

Seen on Twitter: @Jon_Favreau: Let's save time and just give Peter Dinklage an Emmy right now. #gameofthrones

Couldn't agree more.

Most definitely, and it should only strengthen within the coming weeks. He's gonna shine, big-time, next Sunday.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 17, 2011, 06:18:48 PM
Well hello, unhinged Lysa Arryn!  :D

This episode was packed w/ so many goodies. I still cannot believe they showed Ser Gregor beheading his horse after being knocked down by the Knight of Flowers. It was as brutal as it was depicted in the book, and a "holy shit" moment in both mediums. The sky cells, ruled. However, I was momentarily bummed they didn't show why the Eyrie is so impregnable, via its waycastles (Stone, Snow, Sky). It really captured my imagination while reading it, and if I was at war in Westeros, that's where I want to hang. Riverrun isn't too shabby, too.

One more thing concerning the Eyrie, it was neat seeing its addition to the opening credit's sequence. Very cool.

I loved how the narrative played out as "Ned Stark's Bad Day". The dude gets pulverized in this episode.

The additional King Robert/Queen Cersei discourse was a nice touch. It felt organic, but in the book it obviously wouldn't have worked b/c we didn't have neither of their point-of-views. Nevertheless, a nice touch.

Best episode to date up until next weeks, when a certain someone gets his golden crown! I've gotta go find some confetti!!

Seen on Twitter: @Jon_Favreau: Let's save time and just give Peter Dinklage an Emmy right now. #gameofthrones

Couldn't agree more.

Most definitely, and it should only strengthen within the coming weeks. He's gonna shine, big-time, next Sunday.



Goddamn you with your spoilers about someone getting a crown, Team Rad! Spoiler tag that shit next time.  :)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 17, 2011, 07:48:25 PM

Hey, I'm speculating!  :)

In my defense, the next episode's named, "The Golden Crown".

...and it was co-written by Mutant Enemy alum, Jane Espenson. Neat.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 18, 2011, 04:51:35 AM

This totally made my day already...

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llb3z4O9vu1qis07wo1_400.gif)


 :D :D :D :D

And it's becoming stronger in the ratings...

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/05/17/game-of-thrones-ratings-climb/

*cheers*

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 18, 2011, 06:30:02 AM
That gif is creepy awesome.

Also, hooray for the ratings climb! I'd like to see this on for a while yet.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 18, 2011, 07:43:32 AM
Even if he doesn't there's likely enough material for HBO to continue production for at least a few more years yet.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Johnny Unusual on May 18, 2011, 03:52:39 PM
I'd like to see HBO catch up and then try to stall by having the Sand Kings shoehorned in.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on May 19, 2011, 10:38:46 AM
I don't know what happens, but boy would I like to see the Eyrie crushed.....and a few other people/places.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 20, 2011, 11:44:36 AM
I don't know what happens, but boy would I like to see the Eyrie crushed.....

...as would I.

Next time on Arrested Westeros...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llbkv7RooE1qk2t5co1_500.jpg)


:D

Oh man, some of these are pretty awesome...

http://arrestedwesteros.tumblr.com/

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on May 20, 2011, 12:06:55 PM
Just finished the first book.  It was fantastic.  I've started on the second, but my wife and I are sharing the book.....well....I'm sharing, she's hogging.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 21, 2011, 05:34:51 PM
Since they are showing the episodes a week early on their HBO GO app, it is sooooo hard to resist the urge to watch.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 22, 2011, 06:28:42 AM
They're showing the episodes a week early on HBO Go? When I logged in the other day the most recent episode I saw up was #5, which was the one that just aired this past Sunday.

Tonight is one episode on TV and then the next episode will immediately follow on HBO Go. I like the idea of catching up on repeated viewings of favorite shows on HBO Go, but I'm less than thrilled with airing brand new episodes there. The quality on the computers to which I have access can in no way compare to the hi-def big screen television. I'm hoping that doesn't become a regular thing.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 22, 2011, 06:40:14 AM
They're showing the episodes a week early on HBO Go? When I logged in the other day the most recent episode I saw up was #5, which was the one that just aired this past Sunday.

Tonight is one episode on TV and then the next episode will immediately follow on HBO Go. I like the idea of catching up on repeated viewings of favorite shows on HBO Go, but I'm less than thrilled with airing brand new episodes there. The quality on the computers to which I have access can in no way compare to the hi-def big screen television. I'm hoping that doesn't become a regular thing.

Well, that is what they said at the end of last week's episode.   I have resisted the urge to peek.   Maybe it is only availble for a short time?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 22, 2011, 06:51:55 AM
I hope it's just a one time thing. You have, I assume, watched HBO Go. What do you think of it? I like the idea in theory, but it's not the same as watching it first run or getting the DVDs and watching it that way. HBO Go is like seeing a video on YouTube in quality, or maybe even worse since it takes longer to load an hour-long episode as opposed to a ten-minute clip. I tried to watch it on my netbook and it just wasn't happening.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 22, 2011, 08:04:03 AM
I hope it's just a one time thing. You have, I assume, watched HBO Go. What do you think of it? I like the idea in theory, but it's not the same as watching it first run or getting the DVDs and watching it that way. HBO Go is like seeing a video on YouTube in quality, or maybe even worse since it takes longer to load an hour-long episode as opposed to a ten-minute clip. I tried to watch it on my netbook and it just wasn't happening.

Looks pretty darned good on the iPad
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 22, 2011, 08:21:48 AM
They're showing the episodes a week early on HBO Go?

I'm under the impression it's just for this week to promote this new service of theirs. I'm veering away from it, because I like the idea of Sunday nights being event television for the time being. Who Saturdays & GoT Sundays, in addition to Brewer-baseball...this borders on orgasmic for me!

With that being said, I'm jazzed for tonight!

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 22, 2011, 08:29:19 AM
One of my favorite tv writers wrote tonight's episode (Jane Espenson), so I expect a great episode.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on May 22, 2011, 08:35:08 AM
One of my favorite tv writers wrote tonight's episode (Jane Espenson), so I expect a great episode.


Hey, I'm speculating!  :)

In my defense, the next episode's named, "The Golden Crown".

...and it was co-written by Mutant Enemy alum, Jane Espenson. Neat.



;)

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 22, 2011, 10:04:18 AM
I hope it's just a one time thing. You have, I assume, watched HBO Go. What do you think of it? I like the idea in theory, but it's not the same as watching it first run or getting the DVDs and watching it that way. HBO Go is like seeing a video on YouTube in quality, or maybe even worse since it takes longer to load an hour-long episode as opposed to a ten-minute clip. I tried to watch it on my netbook and it just wasn't happening.

Looks pretty darned good on the iPad

Well, excuse me, Mr. Moneybags!   ;)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 22, 2011, 10:34:24 AM
Well, excuse me, Mr. Moneybags!   ;)

(http://gigapple.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bender_monocle.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 22, 2011, 07:09:29 PM
Can I love Peter Dinklage any more than I already do? Let me check.

Nope.

Also, fast-melting gold FTW.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 23, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
Dialog coach? You mean his accent or the way he delivers his lines.

Because hands down, I understand him way more easily than I understand anyone else on this show. Perhaps because he's American. I generally have no idea what anyone is saying, especially Littlefinger (who I love but I have to read the recaps to get what hes saying).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 23, 2011, 05:34:11 PM
God, I hope his dialect coach leaves him alone so I can continue to understand at least one person on the show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 24, 2011, 06:46:11 AM
Yes, I do. I hear what they're saying and I know they are speaking English, but I don't understand it until I read the recap of it later. For instance, during the scene where the Knight of the Flowers was jousting with the Mountain, at one point Littlefinger leans toward Sansa and you can clearly hear him say that the knight was riding a mare in heat in order to throw off the Mountain's stallion. And I heard him say that but it didn't register with me until I read the recap later on. That's just one example, but it happens a lot.

I can understand Tyrian pretty well and some of the others, but most of the time I just wind up watching the show on Sunday night, read the recaps and forum posts over the next few days, and then watch it again on HBO Go to see the stuff I missed.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 24, 2011, 06:59:54 AM
That's a good idea. I asked APGIL if we had closed captioning for the show and he got mad at me. He normally doesn't mind subtitles, I guess he just didn't feel like hunting around to see if we had it. But if I can do subtitles for the HBO Go thing I will. Thanks.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on May 24, 2011, 06:50:53 PM
That's a good idea. I asked APGIL if we had closed captioning for the show and he got mad at me. He normally doesn't mind subtitles, I guess he just didn't feel like hunting around to see if we had it. But if I can do subtitles for the HBO Go thing I will. Thanks.

I'm not closed captioning the show because I speak English and I am not deaf.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 24, 2011, 09:08:52 PM
That's a good idea. I asked APGIL if we had closed captioning for the show and he got mad at me. He normally doesn't mind subtitles, I guess he just didn't feel like hunting around to see if we had it. But if I can do subtitles for the HBO Go thing I will. Thanks.

I'm not closed captioning the show because I speak English and I am not deaf.

Yeah. Thanks. Doesn't matter if I'm having a hard time with it.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Nergol on May 26, 2011, 01:04:17 AM
Some comments about Episode 7, with spoilers for those who haven't seen it:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on May 26, 2011, 07:28:17 AM
I like CC if there is a complex story line.  I'm a visual person, and I retain knowledge much better if I see it visually.  I don't need it on GoT because I've read the book, but if I hadn't, I would probably use it to help keep all the names straight.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 27, 2011, 05:28:05 AM
Yeah, her tit looked pretty damn real but in the end I figured it had to be a fake. I don't think they could get away with having a kid of almost ten sucking on a real tit.

Again, I didn't read the books, but I feel like some of the casting is brilliant and some of it is lacking. Among the brilliant casting choices are, of course, Peter Dinklage (I know you don't like his accent, Im, but I think his acting is fantastic), Aiden Gillen as Littlefinger (loved him in The Wire, love him here -- perfect casting choice), Maise something as Arya, and of course Sean Bean. Also love Harry Lloyd. There are a lot of other people who interest me, too, like Alfie Allen as Theon and Emilia Clarke as Dany.

The biggest misstep in casting for me was The Knight of the Flowers. I don't know if they're going for the whole twink angle here because he's gay, but he looks ridiculous. I in no way believe that that guy can lift a blade that heavy to fight, or even be able to clunk around in a suit of armor. I don't really know enough about Renly to make an informed opinion.

I still haven't quite decided how I feel about Lena Headley's Cersei. I've read complaints that she's too subtle, too icy. Evidently the Cersei of the books was quite the flamboyant villainess, but I actually think it might be a positive thing that Lena Headley isn't portraying her that way. I think a more subtle and understated approach works better for what HBO is known (dramas about behind-the-scenes intrigue and the machinations of the powers that be) than Cersei as Snidely Whiplash, twirling her mustache and snickering with evil intent.

Also still not sure about Mark Addy's King Robert. All he does is bellow. That scene where he ordered Ned to kill Dany really got on my nerves, it was just one bellowed line after another. I mean, I get that bellowing is what Robert does best, but come on already.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 27, 2011, 05:49:22 AM
We use it a lot--especially on British shows.  The only place I don't like to use CC is on comedies as it often ruins the timing of the jokes.

I'm just glad there don't seem to be any Geordies in the cast--that's a fucking impenetrable accent.

The show that I REALLY need close captioning on is the Aussie show Underbelly.    They mumble and have thick accents.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 27, 2011, 09:09:31 AM
Yeah, that quiet scene with Cersei did show a non-bellowing side of Mark Addy's portrayal. Those are few and far between, however.

I would imagine there are quite a few miscasts in the minds of book readers. I haven't read the books so I'm taking these characters for who they are in the HBO telling of the story.

I'd heard that the Mountain was supposed to be enormous. I like it when he's about to joust and he opens the oven door on his helmet to show the king his grumpy face.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 31, 2011, 06:33:15 AM
Well, I guess one thing to keep in mind when watching this show is this: Don't get too attached to any one character.

I really didn't see Robert's death coming. Viserys, yes. Robert, no. I also didn't expect Cersei to outright admit that all of her kids are her brother's, too.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 31, 2011, 07:09:58 AM
Noooooooooo
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: dignan on May 31, 2011, 06:39:17 PM
I'm also not sure about Lena Headey; I thought originally that it was just that the character was being written differently, but I'm beginning to think she's just unable to emote very much.  She seems to always just have this sort of "sleepy frog" expression on her face--flat wide mouth, heavy lidded eyes, never really reacts to much.  Even when she's getting it from Jaime she's just kind of there.  Maybe she's had a lot of botox or surgery or something which has deadened her facial features, but she was always very deadpan in Sarah Connor Chronicles too.

I was thinking along the same lines.  She wears the same expression on her face no matter what the scene calls for. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 31, 2011, 06:46:59 PM
Noooooooooo

Double Noooooooooo
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: dignan on June 01, 2011, 04:33:37 AM
Aside from Tyrion, and perhaps Dany and Arya, I think I'd be hard-pressed to name a character whose death would upset me significantly. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 01, 2011, 06:33:33 AM
Aside from Tyrion, and perhaps Dany and Arya, I think I'd be hard-pressed to name a character whose death would upset me significantly. 

I agree with this. I really don't like kids in movies and tv shows but I don't mind the kids so much in this one. Arya's alright, if only for the suppressed chuckle she shared with her father when Sansa said, "I don't want someone who's kind and handsome and brave! I want Joffrey!"

So far I'm digging the Dothraki story line and Tyrion's story. I really didn't care much about the Wall but this last episode started reeling me in.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on June 01, 2011, 07:24:23 AM
Aside from Tyrion, and perhaps Dany and Arya, I think I'd be hard-pressed to name a character whose death would upset me significantly. 

Aww, dig. You don't have any love for Jon, Samwell, or Bran for starters?

Which is weird, because I hated both the wall and Dany (dear sweet lord I hated Dany) in the books. 

Past tense, Im?   :)

I knew you'd come around.  ;)

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 01, 2011, 11:03:08 AM
I can't even count the number of characters I'd like to see die slow, painful deaths. Gunnar Nelson got off easy if you ask me.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on June 01, 2011, 06:16:46 PM
Littlefinger's fuck scene monologue was absolutely brilliant.  Best thing the show has done so far, I think.  Made me miss Al Swearengen's blowjob monologues.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: PsychoGoatee on June 01, 2011, 08:10:10 PM
Glorious show! Right off the bat one of the best shows on TV. No one touches the dragon, baby!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on June 03, 2011, 07:39:57 AM
Littlefinger's fuck scene monologue was absolutely brilliant.  Best thing the show has done so far, I think.  Made me miss Al Swearengen's blowjob monologues.

Agreed. Sadly I've seen some major rants to the contrary.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 05, 2011, 03:59:17 PM
I've got my thrones jones on. This shit is highly addictive.

"The Pointy End" - and I thought "Cripples, Bastards, and Broken Things" was a great title!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 06, 2011, 05:30:24 AM
Littlefinger's fuck scene monologue was absolutely brilliant.  Best thing the show has done so far, I think.  Made me miss Al Swearengen's blowjob monologues.

Agreed. Sadly I've seen some major rants to the contrary.

I think the main thing people had problems with was that it felt like they had to give exposition into Littlefinger's character, but that was too boring so HBO added a sex scene to pass the time.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 06, 2011, 06:47:25 PM
There's a time and a place for subtlety, and that was before Scary Movie.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on June 06, 2011, 10:54:30 PM
One Wang, Two Wang= Lots of Wang.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on June 07, 2011, 01:03:01 AM
One Wang, Two Wang= Lots of Wang.

I only subscribe to HBO but I imagine on any series on the premium channels there's always a scene inserted just to remind the viewer that they are watching a PREMIUM channel.  Or maybe the assassin's floppy Wang was symbolic as in he was "dead meat."
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 07, 2011, 05:39:29 AM
I don't mind seeing dicks at all. Bring 'em on, I say. The more dicks the better. This past Sunday night's show had a dick in it, too.

The only time it bugged me was when Theon and Roz were fucking and he pulled away. I in no way bought that his cock was limp that quickly and I was so taken with how wrong it was that I missed much of the rest of the scene. I mean, I get why HBO can't show erect penises (heaven forbid, because we all know that the only natural state for a cock is flaccid) but then why bother showing Theon's dick at all?

But again, not complaining. Always fun to see a dick.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 07, 2011, 06:16:06 AM
There's kind of a lot of wang in this show.  Like the assassin's wang.  And Theon's. 

and...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on June 07, 2011, 06:50:39 AM

Past tense, Im?   :)

I knew you'd come around.  ;)



I'm just saying that Dany in the series is not the same Dany as in the books.  Neither is Cersei, or Cat.  Or even Ned, really.

I know, Im. I just couldn't help but play around a small bit there w/ knowledge of your disdain for Dany.

And I must spoil-tag this for anyone that hasn't read the source material, because of what the context foreshadows:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)



A couple of times now I've noticed the limited budget--first with the Tourney, and now with the Eyrie seeming very small and kind of insignificant.  I never pictured it that way.

Agreed on both accounts. I imagined the Tourney of the Hand to be epic, and it looked as if it could have transpired in the parking lot of my apartment. The crowd was also much more coy than I would've imagined.

The Eyrie was a letdown, but my expectations weren't too high w/ the aforementioned budget constraints.

 
There's kind of a lot of wang in this show.  Like the assassin's wang.  And Theon's. 

and...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 :D

And has anyone seen this brilliant gem from Tyrion/Bronn's Eyrie victory?

http://www.youtube.com/v/5AymyHLQgBQ?version=3

...as if it needed to be anymore badass.  :)

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 07, 2011, 06:59:01 AM
No offense, but why was that brilliant? Just the Bronn's fight/Tyrion's exit scene with Beverly Hills Cop music over it.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 07, 2011, 08:19:41 AM
I don't mind seeing dicks at all. Bring 'em on, I say. The more dicks the better. This past Sunday night's show had a dick in it, too.

Really? You like limp, dirty dicks?

It really bothers me because it feels like the only reason why they're doing it is to push the envelope.  It's like they're just trying to get viewers from people talking about how racy it is.  I think a lot of it ads nothing to the story or artistic nature of the show.  They're trying too hard (pun intended).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 07, 2011, 09:30:05 AM
I don't mind seeing dicks at all. Bring 'em on, I say. The more dicks the better. This past Sunday night's show had a dick in it, too.

Really? You like limp, dirty dicks?

It's all tits, all the time. It gets tiresome. Even if it's limp and dirty, it's still a dick.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 07, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
I'll pass.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on June 07, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
No offense, but why was that brilliant?

I'm easily impressed. 

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 08, 2011, 08:26:48 AM
I'll pass.

It's gonna be the final frontier of TV nudity.

And I'm sure if anyone will boldly venture forth, it will be HBO.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 13, 2011, 07:42:32 AM
WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 13, 2011, 08:47:36 AM
WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up.
I haven't seen yesterday's episode.  Now I'm intrigued.  Are you talking about a plot point or another Littlefinger exposition?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 13, 2011, 09:08:19 AM
WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up.
I haven't seen yesterday's episode.  Now I'm intrigued.  Are you talking about a plot point or another Littlefinger exposition?

I'm talking about... shit. I can't say it. Just watch yesterday's episode.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Jinto on June 13, 2011, 09:48:06 AM
WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up.
I haven't seen yesterday's episode.  Now I'm intrigued.  Are you talking about a plot point or another Littlefinger exposition?

I'm talking about... shit. I can't say it. Just watch yesterday's episode.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this show.

I'll tell you what's "wrong" with it. It keeps defying your expectations. It gives meaning back to the phrase "plot twist", where so many other shows and movies have watered it down to mean, at most "well gee, person A was NOT person B's long lost sibling, but in fact person C's offspring! <exaggerated gasps of feigned surprise>". (... yawn ...)

The books are like this too. You start thinking you know what's going to happen next, and then the story tells you, in no uncertain terms, "no, you don't".

And this is GOOD.  >:D

It's also the reason why people who have read the books or watched the show already, find it difficult to talk about the story (in either medium) without spoiling something. Even seemingly innocuous factoids can clue someone in earlier than they should be to future events, thus ruining some of the suspense.

Imagine mentioning something seemingly trivial, like Gandalf"s new look (all white) in LotR after he returns to someone who's only watched the first movie. You've given away two facts: a) he returns, so therefore he's not dead (a common cliche in stories), and b) something has changed about him, and according to cliche this means he's most likely "powered up". So since now the person you told knows he's not the same as he was before, you've ruined the "surprise" at not only seeing him again, but seeing the changes. This may be a very minor thing in LotR with all it's predictability, but now think of doing something similar with GoT. Not so easy to avoid spoiling is it?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 13, 2011, 09:52:47 AM
It's also the reason why people who have read the books or watched the show already, find it difficult to talk about the story (in either medium) without spoiling something. Even seemingly innocuous factoids can clue someone in earlier than they should be to future events, thus ruining some of the suspense.

My wife is 1 book ahead of me right now.  She'll just mention a person's name, and I'll get after her about spoilers.  If you say a name, I know that they're not dead!!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Jinto on June 13, 2011, 10:01:51 AM
It's also the reason why people who have read the books or watched the show already, find it difficult to talk about the story (in either medium) without spoiling something. Even seemingly innocuous factoids can clue someone in earlier than they should be to future events, thus ruining some of the suspense.

My wife is 1 book ahead of me right now.  She'll just mention a person's name, and I'll get after her about spoilers.  If you say a name, I know that they're not dead!!

Which isn't usually a problem in most cliche stories where you expect that, but with GoT, well....  >:D
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 13, 2011, 10:05:43 AM
WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up.
I haven't seen yesterday's episode.  Now I'm intrigued.  Are you talking about a plot point or another Littlefinger exposition?

I'm talking about... shit. I can't say it. Just watch yesterday's episode.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this show.

I'll tell you what's "wrong" with it. It keeps defying your expectations. It gives meaning back to the phrase "plot twist", where so many other shows and movies have watered it down to mean, at most "well gee, person A was NOT person B's long lost sibling, but in fact person C's offspring! <exaggerated gasps of feigned surprise>". (... yawn ...)

The books are like this too. You start thinking you know what's going to happen next, and then the story tells you, in no uncertain terms, "no, you don't".

And this is GOOD.  >:D

It's also the reason why people who have read the books or watched the show already, find it difficult to talk about the story (in either medium) without spoiling something. Even seemingly innocuous factoids can clue someone in earlier than they should be to future events, thus ruining some of the suspense.

Imagine mentioning something seemingly trivial, like Gandalf"s new look (all white) in LotR after he returns to someone who's only watched the first movie. You've given away two facts: a) he returns, so therefore he's not dead (a common cliche in stories), and b) something has changed about him, and according to cliche this means he's most likely "powered up". So since now the person you told knows he's not the same as he was before, you've ruined the "surprise" at not only seeing him again, but seeing the changes. This may be a very minor thing in LotR with all it's predictability, but now think of doing something similar with GoT. Not so easy to avoid spoiling is it?


This is what I meant, but with less smugness and pomposity.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 13, 2011, 11:00:05 AM
Oh no you didn't Thrones!!!

(http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/images/2010/11/Hulk.jpg)

My appetite for fictional revenge knows no bounds.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Jinto on June 13, 2011, 11:21:24 AM
This is what I meant, but with less smugness and pomposity.

Clarifying exposition in the future may decrease the likelihood of misinterpretation of (apparently) rhetorical questions being perceived as eliciting postulating elucidation.

 ::)    ;D


and now for something completely different. randomness, because I feel like being silly:

"A bannister always frames its steps!"
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: dignan on June 13, 2011, 04:21:17 PM
I AM NOT HAPPY.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on June 13, 2011, 04:36:14 PM
I liked seeing Tyrion being forced into battle, even though he had no business on the field in the first place.  I also like the scene with Brom in the tent with T's new "girl".


I DID NOT WANT the last scene.  In one hand, it takes balls to do that.  On the other, it makes me a sad panda.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 14, 2011, 06:44:54 AM
I AM NOT HAPPY.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/wurwolf/yeahthat.gif)

Except not with a happy face. More like this:  :scared:

Can we talk about it yet? Has everyone seen it? I'm going to talk about it.

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: torgosPizza on June 14, 2011, 08:12:20 AM
WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up.

From what my friends have said, just wait until a couple more books.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 14, 2011, 08:49:57 AM
Can we talk about it yet? Has everyone seen it? I'm going to talk about it.

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 14, 2011, 10:58:14 AM
Can we talk about it yet? Has everyone seen it? I'm going to talk about it.

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Jesus, these spoiler posts are a lotta work! I gotta lie down for a while.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 14, 2011, 12:44:25 PM

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I'm the opposite.  Since I have a picture of how it should look in my mind, I'm a little disappointed when the Tyrion battle scene falls short.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on June 14, 2011, 01:21:40 PM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 14, 2011, 01:56:20 PM

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I'm the opposite.  Since I have a picture of how it should look in my mind, I'm a little disappointed when the Tyrion battle scene falls short.

Oh, I see what happened here. I wrote an atrocious sentence that led you to think I meant I was a reader of the books. At least I think that's what happened there. Anyway, I think we're saying the same thing.

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 14, 2011, 02:02:58 PM
Sean Bean 'stabbed' in the arm following a row over glamour model April Summers (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2003338/Sean-Bean-stabbed-arm-following-row-glamour-model-April-Summers.html)

He became known to millions as the rugged, hero soldier in historical drama Sharpe. And now actor Sean Bean has proven once and for all that his tough-guy image is not just fictional. The Daily Mail has learned that Bean was ‘stabbed’ in the arm following a row over a beautiful young model.

The four-time married star was apparently attacked outside the Hill Bar and Brasserie in Camden, North West London late on Sunday evening. Mr Bean was said to have a cut arm and a bruised face, according to witnesses. However, extraordinarily, he declined to attend hospital. Instead, the star walked back into the bar and, after staff gave him aid from a first aid kit, ordered another drink.  A member of staff said: ‘Sean is a regular here and we’ve never had any problems before. He was with a very attractive woman and an incident occurred outside the bar. ‘He came in with a cut on his arm and a bruise on his eyebrow. We saw to his injuries with the first aid kit. He seemed ok and wanted to have another drink.’


Mr. Bean seems like a real piece o' work!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 14, 2011, 04:44:11 PM
What can you say, he loves the ladies.

That gif was sad.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on June 14, 2011, 04:58:30 PM

However, I was momentarily bummed they didn't show why the Eyrie is so impregnable, via its waycastles (Stone, Snow, Sky). It really captured my imagination while reading it, and if I was at war in Westeros, that's where I want to hang.


Scratch that, if I'm at war in Westeros, I wanna hang in Tyrion's tent!

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 14, 2011, 06:10:17 PM
"WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up."

I think that is a very good quote for what I finally got around to seeing tonight.

I mean, REALLY..... wow.   I honestly have no idea what is going ot happen now.    But well done!   

And I could go for a Zombie character.

No clue who is going to live or who is going to die, but......
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The lack of battle scenes does not bother me because I have seen them in dozens of other movies and they are pretty much all the same.   To me, they would almost be a "drum solo" and take away from the characters or driving the plot forward.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 14, 2011, 07:30:41 PM
No clue who is going to live or who is going to die, but......
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 16, 2011, 08:05:53 AM
WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up.

From what my friends have said, just wait until a couple more books.

Remember what I said about not getting attached to characters.

No kidding!   Well, I am sure that is the last beloved character that will get killed so we can all go on and enjoy the rest of the show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 16, 2011, 09:20:23 AM
I just finished book 2, and I've started book 3.  I'm curious how they'll do a lot of things next season
(spoilers unless you've read book 2)
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: dignan on June 16, 2011, 05:10:05 PM
WTF? Seriously. This show is twelve kinds of jacked up.

From what my friends have said, just wait until a couple more books.

Remember what I said about not getting attached to characters.

No kidding!   Well, I am sure that is the last beloved character that will get killed so we can all go on and enjoy the rest of the show.

Yup!  It's all good now!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on June 18, 2011, 09:32:37 AM
Can we talk about it yet? Has everyone seen it? I'm going to talk about it.

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I just finished book 2, and I've started book 3.  I'm curious how they'll do a lot of things next season
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 18, 2011, 06:48:10 PM

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When I read that part, I was dreading having to watch it.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on June 18, 2011, 08:12:12 PM
I always pictured Stannis as Patrick Stewart.

I pictured Stannis as Count Tyrone Rugen!  :D


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When I read that part, I was dreading having to watch it.

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 20, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 20, 2011, 04:06:31 PM
Wow, we need 2 levels of spoilers.   One for the show and one for people reading the books and talking about future events.

Do we really need a spoiler for the season 1?   In the mean time, I will spoiler until everyone agrees one way or the other.

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on June 20, 2011, 05:32:14 PM
Ya, it seems that way. I think they've submitted at least four other actors in that category as well.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: dignan on June 21, 2011, 01:37:00 PM
Hot Pie!!! 

And, I could care less about Stannis, I'm more interested to see who they get to be Dolorous Edd. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 21, 2011, 03:15:12 PM
I could look at this all day...

(http://static.tvfanatic.com/files/tyrion-slaps-joffrey.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 22, 2011, 07:19:01 AM
I am reading the books now that the first season is done and I'm a hundred pages or so into Game of Thrones. I found it hilarious that one of the first things anyone says about Joffrey is when Jon Snow is asked his opinion of him and he says that Joffrey is a little shit. It seems to be the perfect epithet for him.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 22, 2011, 09:18:23 AM
It might be different for me, you're right. Unlike the book readers, I am picturing these characters as the actors who portrayed them rather than thinking of them as a product of my own imagination, and oddly enough (given the fact that a lot of book readers think Lena Headley is way wrong for the part of Cersei) I am having the least trouble picturing Cersei. For some reason Ned is different to me than Sean Bean. Tyrion, I think, is meant to be uglier than Peter Dinklage, but I am not complaining about that casting choice, as I think Dinklage completely sells the role. Everyone else seems right on.

I am amazed at how true (so far) the show was to the book. I see a lot of the same lines that I remember hearing in the show. Most of the scenes play out the same exact way, it's just that with the book you obviously know more of what the characters are thinking.

The ages are also fudged a bit -- everyone seems to have gotten a bump in age for the TV show, especially the kids. Sansa is supposed to be 11, Joffrey is supposed to be 12, and Dany is supposed to be 13, but again, I am not complaining about that. Joffrey and Sansa acting like prats at 12 and 11, respectively, is understandable to me, but Dany becoming who she is by the end of the book when she's only 13 at the start seems ridiculous and completely unbelievable. As much as this series was about fantasy, there still has to be some humanity involved that is common with the reader (or viewer).

Yeah, that "scene" was almost a deal-breaker for me as well. I think I mentioned in The Wire thread here that I had to stop watching the show after they killed off Stringer Bell, because that death was so visceral and heart-breaking for me. Despite the fact that Bell was a drug lord and a thug, he was nevertheless a man trying to better himself and approach his business professionally, so when he was gunned down (and the way in which they shot the scene) I was so moved by it I just had to stop watching, if only for my own sanity. It was almost that way with what happens in Episode 9 of Game of Thrones, but I think the rest of the show is too compelling to give up, so I will be there front and center in the spring of 2012 for season 2.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on June 22, 2011, 12:39:13 PM
The year long wait for Season 2 started to wear me down, so i DL'd a copy of Clash of Kings off of iBooks.  Seeing as i already read most of the Southern Vampire Mysteries and still enjoy True Blood, hopefully this won't spoil my enjoyment of the second season.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Nergol on June 22, 2011, 11:22:12 PM
Stannis? I nominate Phil Glenister for the part.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 23, 2011, 07:31:28 AM
Also, one other really super awesome thing about reading the books after watching the series is that now I know how to pronounce names. I would have been stumbling all over some of those names (Viserys Targaryen, anyone?) if I hadn't heard it on the show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 23, 2011, 08:12:53 AM
It's got to be a damn sight better than I would have pronounced it, left to my own devices. It would have been "Tar...mumble mumble..."
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 23, 2011, 08:37:43 AM
Also, one other really super awesome thing about reading the books after watching the series is that now I know how to pronounce names. I would have been stumbling all over some of those names (Viserys Targaryen, anyone?) if I hadn't heard it on the show.

I still have not gotten a good hand of all the fantasy names.    I do better when they do not refer to a character offscreen by name!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 23, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
Really? It's just Tar + Gar + Yen, all words which exist in English.

I am not one who processes words in unfamiliar formations very well, be they written or spoken. If it takes more than a split second to figure out my mind discards it and moves on.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 23, 2011, 10:21:50 AM
Really? It's just Tar + Gar + Yen, all words which exist in English.

I am not one who processes words in unfamiliar formations very well, be they written or spoken. If it takes more than a split second to figure out my mind discards it and moves on.

Interesting.  Maybe doing ancient languages has accustomed me to this.

Can I rent you out and you sit next to me during next year's shows?    Whenever they refer to some character offscreen, you can just yell out the actor who plays them.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 23, 2011, 10:31:08 AM
Really? It's just Tar + Gar + Yen, all words which exist in English.

I am not one who processes words in unfamiliar formations very well, be they written or spoken. If it takes more than a split second to figure out my mind discards it and moves on.

Interesting.  Maybe doing ancient languages has accustomed me to this.

Can I rent you out and you sit next to me during next year's shows?    Whenever they refer to some character offscreen, you can just yell out the actor who plays them.

I agree, Bob, the names, families and plot lines are hard to keep straight. The only thing that helped me was reading the TWOP recaps and the forums.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 23, 2011, 11:32:36 AM
Really? It's just Tar + Gar + Yen, all words which exist in English.

I am not one who processes words in unfamiliar formations very well, be they written or spoken. If it takes more than a split second to figure out my mind discards it and moves on.

Interesting.  Maybe doing ancient languages has accustomed me to this.

Can I rent you out and you sit next to me during next year's shows?    Whenever they refer to some character offscreen, you can just yell out the actor who plays them.

I agree, Bob, the names, families and plot lines are hard to keep straight. The only thing that helped me was reading the TWOP recaps and the forums.

Perhaps they'll throw in some groovy Electric Company cutaways to help out the viewers.

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2791/unled1gz.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 23, 2011, 11:48:05 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: wurwolf on June 23, 2011, 11:54:06 AM
Seconded!  :D
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 23, 2011, 12:08:45 PM
Unfortunately, I think the people on the show don't analyze it the way I do, so it's probably more like:

Tar
Gary
En

(that's the only way I can think of that they got to the pronunciation they did)

This does not, however, change the awesomeness of DB's post. :)

The audiobook pronounces it the same way as the show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on June 23, 2011, 12:22:30 PM
It's always Gary's fault.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 24, 2011, 12:21:18 PM
(http://www.gameofthronesofmuppets.com/poster/Rizzo_lg.jpg)

All of them here... (http://www.gameofthronesofmuppets.com/Game_of_Thrones_of_Muppets__You_Wink_or_You_Die/Home.html)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on June 26, 2011, 08:48:39 AM
Finally watched the last two episodes. Still annoyed that I'm gonna have to sit through a whole season before
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unless they move that up.

Got any recommendations for other projects the guy who plays Lord Frey has been in besides this and Harry Potter? First Tonks showed up, then him... I'm half-expecting Emma Watson to show up next season as a new addition to Littlefinger's brothel.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on June 28, 2011, 01:42:22 AM
Hot Pie!!! 

*cheers*

And, I could care less about Stannis, I'm more interested to see who they get to be Dolorous Edd. 

Where's Wierzbowski Dolorous Edd?!!!!!!

I always pictured Tyrion as Bruce Villanch, actually. Just a bit shorter.

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u154/craigcrusade/NuTyrion.png)

Who's said going to the Eyrie wasn't any fun?



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Post by: Raefire on July 03, 2011, 06:17:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZwdKv.jpg)

My god, it all makes sense now...
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on July 04, 2011, 12:21:26 PM
Firstly, this is a thread about the HBO series, not the books, so how about not possibly spoiling things for people in the future seasons of the show? I'd rather there be no book talk whatsoever in here, unless it's to compare how things were adapted.

Secondly, I just finished watching the series.  Reading the books beforehand helped me get a handle on what was going on, so I didn't really feel the confusion that some are feeling from the constant jumping around - I actually like the wide cast of characters: it aids in the scope of the story, and it's not THAT harmful if one of them happens to cork it. 

Thirdly, there's some really great tits in the show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: bta on July 04, 2011, 12:38:39 PM
Excellent points mrba. 
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Post by: Bob on July 04, 2011, 12:49:53 PM
Excellent points mrba. 

Agreed, no book spoilers please

And, more breasts please.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on July 06, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
I don't mind book spoilers as long as they are hidden.  It would be nice if there was a note to say what type of a spoiler it is (book 2 spoiler, book 3 spoiler).

I love the picture of Joffrey and Nellie.  That's just perfect.

Has anyone heard any casting rumors?  I'm dying to get a look at next season's characters.  For those who haven't read book 2, would you consider it a spoiler to talk about character names?  I really want to see the casting for:
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on July 06, 2011, 08:07:19 PM
Has anyone heard any casting rumors?  I'm dying to get a look at next season's characters.  For those who haven't read book 2, would you consider it a spoiler to talk about character names?  I really want to see the casting for:
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 07, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
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Now, is this a book spoiler or a show spoiler? And if it's a book spoiler, please list the book number, chapter number, page number, paragraph number, and preferably the line number. Also, if it's not too much trouble, can you divide the line up into four segments and note the specific segment?

That would be great.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on July 08, 2011, 01:17:50 AM
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Now, is this a book spoiler or a show spoiler? And if it's a book spoiler, please list the book number, chapter number, page number, paragraph number, and preferably the line number. Also, if it's not too much trouble, can you divide the line up into four segments and note the specific segment?

That would be great.

Didn't you get the memo?

Oh, and since this is my first comment on the series, I loved the book and liked the series quite a bit, even though I couldn't help but get caught in compare and contrast mode. Still only finished the first book so far, so I'm one of those the book-specific spoilers are meant for.

Also, I'm lazy, so I don't want to go through all the other pages to see just how much this has been discussed already, but I thought of such a great cast all around, Tyrion Lannister was cast perfectly.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on July 08, 2011, 08:41:13 AM
Pretty cool casting news:
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 08, 2011, 01:25:23 PM
Pretty epic. Wish the guitar and bass were mixed a bit louder, though. I guess it's hard to compete with nine violin tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/v/0OWQXQgHgq8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: dignan on July 09, 2011, 06:39:42 AM
Pretty cool casting news:
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I like what I'm hearing about that.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on July 14, 2011, 07:28:38 AM
Looks like Peter Dinklage got nominated for an Emmy for Best Supporting Actor.

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Post by: Kete on July 14, 2011, 07:51:22 AM
I guess I should list all the nominations:

Casting For A Drama Series
Costumes For A Series (The Pointy End)
Directing For A Drama Series (The Pilot)
Hairstyling For A Single-Camera Series (A Golden Crown)
Main Title Design
Makeup For A Single-Camera Series (Non-Prosthetic) (The Pilot)
Prosthetic Makeup For A Series, Miniseries, Movie Or A Special (A Golden Crwon)
Supporting Actor In A Drama Series (Peter Dinklage)
Outstanding Drama Series
Sound Editing For A Series (A Golden Crown)
Special Visual Effects For A Series (Fire And Blood)
Stunt Coordination (The Wolf And The Lion)
Writing for a Drama Series (Baelor)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on July 14, 2011, 09:09:17 AM
Well deserved too.  He's got a great character to work with, but that doesn't mean it's easy.  I hope he wins.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 14, 2011, 09:33:57 AM
Looks like Peter Dinklage got nominated for an Emmy for Best Supporting Actor.

Well deserved too.  He's got a great character to work with, but that doesn't mean it's easy.  I hope he wins.

If he hadn't been nominated, it would've been one of the more egregious snubs in recent memory. I'd be really surprised if he doesn't win. He's so good; completely steals every scene he's in.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on July 14, 2011, 10:23:55 AM
Looks like Peter Dinklage got nominated for an Emmy for Best Supporting Actor.

Well deserved too.  He's got a great character to work with, but that doesn't mean it's easy.  I hope he wins.

If he hadn't been nominated, it would've been one of the more egregious snubs in recent memory. I'd be really surprised if he doesn't win. He's so good; completely steals every scene he's in.



So true. My favorite character in the book was made even better with Dinklage's portrayal.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on July 14, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
As much as I liked Dinklage on the show, I did Walton Goggins deserves a win for his work on this last season of Justified.  He didn't just steal some scenes, he stole the entire series.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on July 15, 2011, 09:25:07 PM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 18, 2011, 02:53:17 PM
Introducing The Legosters

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5115/5864326044_6ffebe05af_z.jpg)

"A Legoster Always Puts Itself Back in the Box"
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on July 18, 2011, 04:29:06 PM
Even in Lego form I fucking hate them.

All of them?

Although I do agree that even in Lego form, Joffrey is completely face-punchable.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on July 18, 2011, 04:42:08 PM
Love this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/A-aPeKKP4Sk?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2011, 01:14:55 PM
More casting news...

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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 20, 2011, 09:17:30 AM
Some more casting news...

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 20, 2011, 10:21:04 AM
Not quite how I pictured the character, but I'll wait until I see him in costume.  When do they start filming?

It starts (or already started) filming this month and season two is supposed to air starting next April.

Is it next April yet?
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 27, 2011, 02:05:43 PM
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Post by: mrbasehart on July 27, 2011, 02:30:13 PM
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Out of character line-up photo

Nooo! My immersion!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 29, 2011, 02:00:43 PM
Gotta love HBO.

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HBO Exec: 'Game of Thrones' Will Go on as Long as George R.R. Martin Keeps Writing (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hbo-exec-game-thrones-will-216668)

HBO executives stressed their commitment to making Game of Thrones authentic to George R.R. Martin's books and to keeping the show going as long as Martin keeps writing -- which is a considerable commitment given Martin's prolific nature.

Addressing critics at the semi-annual Television Critics Association press tour, Richard Plepler, co-president of HBO, said Martin is happy with the networks adaptation of his work.

"The truth is when you see how thrilled he is with the production, we know we’ve succeeded partially by his satisfaction," said Plepler. "We told George we’d go as long as he kept writing."

Michael Lombardo, president of programming at HBO, admitted that he has not read Martin's books. But he noted that Thrones writers/producers David Benioff and Dan Weiss are among Martin's "biggest fans."
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 29, 2011, 02:27:57 PM
Just like Carnivale and Rome did, right?

I don't see the ratings for Thrones tanking like they did for Carnivale. Not exactly sure why they cancelled Rome.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on July 29, 2011, 03:03:15 PM
Just like Carnivale and Rome did, right?

I don't see the ratings for Thrones tanking like they did for Carnivale. Not exactly sure why they cancelled Rome.

I think it was because the BBC pulled out of co-funding it and the show was too expensive to do on their own.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on July 29, 2011, 06:18:08 PM
I have no interest in reading the books and I'll tune in!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 29, 2011, 06:32:32 PM
Just like Carnivale and Rome did, right?

I don't see the ratings for Thrones tanking like they did for Carnivale. Not exactly sure why they cancelled Rome.

I think GoT worked in the first season because it's a compelling "what will happen next?" kind of story.  But if you check the NYT bestsellers, GRRM books are on the top ten all over the place because people want to find out that question, and they'll now know the answer.  So will they tune in come next April?

Interesting question. I think people will still be psyched to see it. At least I hope so. Seems like the forum folks that have read it were still very into the show. Seven books, seven seasons; is that how it works? That would be glorious!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on July 30, 2011, 02:48:43 AM

Interesting question. I think people will still be psyched to see it. At least I hope so. Seems like the forum folks that have read it were still very into the show. Seven books, seven seasons; is that how it works? That would be glorious!

I'm interested in watching to see the scenes that didn't make the books (Cersei and Robert last season was a highlight for me), and because I read those first few books a good decade ago and don't remember all the details anyway. 

As far as number of books, they're already talking that it will take two seasons to get through book #3, and that a "major plot point" (spoiler) would be the finale of the first part of the season.  Go check out the comic-con panel on youtube, it's kinda fun, if you're interested.  The guy playing Drogo is a riot.

I think it's because he's got comic-con pedigree, having been there a bunch of times with...I'm thinking a Stargate TV series.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 30, 2011, 11:10:17 AM

Interesting question. I think people will still be psyched to see it. At least I hope so. Seems like the forum folks that have read it were still very into the show. Seven books, seven seasons; is that how it works? That would be glorious!

I'm interested in watching to see the scenes that didn't make the books (Cersei and Robert last season was a highlight for me), and because I read those first few books a good decade ago and don't remember all the details anyway. 

As far as number of books, they're already talking that it will take two seasons to get through book #3, and that a "major plot point" (spoiler) would be the finale of the first part of the season.  Go check out the comic-con panel on youtube, it's kinda fun, if you're interested.  The guy playing Drogo is a riot.

Thanks for the tip on the Comic-Con video. That was a treat. Drogo was on fire! I think Emilia Clarke looks great with dark hair; I guess that's her natural color. Everybody seemed really nice and humble, except for maybe Dinklage, who came off as a little too cool for school, although he was predictably hialrious.

It was really interesting to hear Martin talk about his philosphies on storytelling. How refreshing! It was also interesting to hear them talk about adding material that never appeared in the books. They specifically mentioned Drogo ripping out his rival's heart and the converstaion between the king and Queen, both of which are a couple of my favorite scenes.

Sounds like if everything goes as planned, this show could end up surpassing Sopranos in terms of longevity. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 30, 2011, 11:39:39 AM
I loved the way everyone on the panel hid his/her face when he talked about "Raping beautiful women."

That was priceless! Also, when one of the writers is asked what we can look forward to next season, he pauses and then says "Well, everyone dies."

And of course, "dance number."
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on August 16, 2011, 10:53:42 AM
Casting Roundup (http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on August 17, 2011, 08:58:22 PM
Casting Roundup (http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984)

Asha Greyjoy.

*melts*

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on September 05, 2011, 11:58:34 AM
I thought this was an interesting article comparing Game of Thrones to True Blood as literary-adapted television. It's no wonder True Blood became such a complete mess. It seems Alan Ball made some significant initial changes that pretty much destined it to fall flat on its face, whereas the Game of Thrones team took great care to understand the future impact of their changes to avoid the types of pitfalls that befell True Blood.

While I haven't read either one of the series, it seems clear why GOT is and should continue to be the far superior adaptation. I'm glad I gave up on True Blood; I don't miss it one bit. It devolved into slapstick, uninteresting and annoying muddle. I should've ditched it two years ago. On the contrary, each episode of GOT further immersed me and pulled me in. Hour-long episodes seemed like thirty minutes and it just became more and more compelling. And even while there are dramatic differences in tone between the two, it doesn't change the fact that mistakes in execution can easily turn a promising show into a unwatchable wreck.

Anyway, here's The Atlantic article (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/08/fantasy-on-tv-how-game-of-thrones-succeeds-where-true-blood-fails/244365/).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on September 07, 2011, 07:25:29 AM
Today's teefury shirt:
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$10 + $2 shipping.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on September 07, 2011, 03:57:08 PM
That would look pretty good on a shirt.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on September 14, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
COOL!

Quote
Neil Marshall Among Directors Booked For HBO’s ‘Game Of Thrones’
Feature director Neil Marshall (The Descent) is set to direct an episode from the second season of HBO’s fantasy series Game of Thrones. This marks the TV debut of Marshall, repped by ICM and Principato-Young, who a huge fan of the adaptation of George R.R. Martin’s books. Other directors tapped for Season 2 of Emmy-nominated Game of Thrones include top TV helmers Alan Taylor, who worked on the series’ freshman season, and David Nutter as well as Alik Sakharov and David Petrarca (Boardwalk Empire).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 14, 2011, 01:50:09 PM
Okay so I have been hearing good things about this series and I hear Sean Bean is in it and I am a fan of his work so does anyone here have any idea when it is coming to DvD so I can see it?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on September 14, 2011, 02:02:22 PM
There's been no announcement of the DVD yet.  You can watch it on HBOGO.com.  It requires an HBO subscription, but I think you can sign up, watch them all, and cancel.  This way it would only cost $12 (I think).

Otherwise, I've heard there might be other ways to watch it online.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 14, 2011, 02:27:54 PM
Okay so I have been hearing good things about this series and I hear Sean Bean is in it and I am a fan of his work so does anyone here have any idea when it is coming to DvD so I can see it?

You're not going to like it. It's full of sex and swearing and violence.

I can't imagine it's worse then Rome or Deadwood and I do have a fastforward button on my remote.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on September 14, 2011, 02:39:59 PM
Okay so I have been hearing good things about this series and I hear Sean Bean is in it and I am a fan of his work so does anyone here have any idea when it is coming to DvD so I can see it?

You're not going to like it. It's full of sex and swearing and violence.

I can't imagine it's worse then Rome or Deadwood and I do have a fastforward button on my remote.

Well, almost nothing can have more cursng than Deadwood and almost nothing can have more violence than Rome (and I love those two shows dearly).   One of my mom's actual sentences, "I really like Rome, the costumes and music are beautiful........and they sure have a lot of beheadings".

I have never read the books and outside of having an issue following all the names..... I really like the show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on September 14, 2011, 02:45:50 PM
Okay so I have been hearing good things about this series and I hear Sean Bean is in it and I am a fan of his work so does anyone here have any idea when it is coming to DvD so I can see it?

You're not going to like it. It's full of sex and swearing and violence.

HELL YEAH IT IS!!!

I can't imagine it's worse then Rome or Deadwood and I do have a fastforward button on my remote.

I'm guessing you beat off to Deniro in Taxi Driver. Or maybe Gollum?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on September 18, 2011, 07:36:41 PM
Peter Dinklage won the Emmy! http://www.emmys.com/nominations/2011/Outstanding%20Supporting%20Actor%20In%20A%20Drama%20Series

Now to wait and see if the show wins Best Drama...
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on September 18, 2011, 07:58:22 PM
*sigh*

Mad Men won Best Drama.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on October 01, 2011, 08:40:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/yci-rAanhs4

No premiere date announced as of yet.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 01, 2011, 08:44:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/yci-rAanhs4

No premiere date announced as of yet.

Well that's a big bag of nothing.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 05, 2011, 01:55:22 PM
Best paperweight ever.

(http://geek-news.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/game_thrones_paperweight.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on October 05, 2011, 01:57:56 PM
That's an excellent use for all your leftover letter openers.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on October 10, 2011, 01:52:57 PM
April 2012.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on November 21, 2011, 12:28:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/pE12H1HorUU?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on November 28, 2011, 12:00:28 AM
Info on the DVD/BD release:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=50301

(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/gotblu2.jpg)

Release date: 3/20/2012

Wait, so I have to go through all of that again?!?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on November 29, 2011, 10:02:02 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on November 29, 2011, 10:55:02 PM
Would it be inappropriate here for me to plug (http://www.zazzle.com/neds_dead_baby_neds_dead_tshirt-235459357628161034) my Zazzle design?

Spoilery link. Don't click if you don't want to know about who gets beheaded.


Not at all, Im. That's awesome! I bet HBO could sell that shit.

 :clap:
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on November 30, 2011, 05:19:30 AM
Would it be inappropriate here for me to plug (http://www.zazzle.com/neds_dead_baby_neds_dead_tshirt-235459357628161034) my Zazzle design?

Spoilery link. Don't click if you don't want to know about who gets beheaded.


Not at all, Im. That's awesome! I bet HBO could sell that shit.

 :clap:

That is brilliant
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on November 30, 2011, 10:41:21 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Compound on November 30, 2011, 05:16:54 PM
BTW- the DVD/blu-Rays? March 6.

(http://scifimafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Game-of-Thrones-s1-BluRay-DVD-Cover.jpg)

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Compound on November 30, 2011, 05:33:31 PM
Whoops. Well, hitting the "back" button is too complex for me.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on December 03, 2011, 09:37:58 PM
Today's TeeFury Shirt. (http://www.teefury.com/)

(http://www.teefury.com/products_large_images/1320200816_BOTTOM__11119h09m34.jpg)

On  a side note, i've been devoruring the books like crazy...already on A Feast for Crows.  Dammit!   April can't seem to get here fast enough.

And also:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on December 04, 2011, 05:48:36 AM
Nice to see they includes maps and family trees so you can try and piece together how the hell everyone is related.......
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on December 04, 2011, 10:20:27 PM
and the Van Patton conspiracy continues....
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on December 05, 2011, 10:40:46 AM
making my way through the series now,
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
dont see how that's much of a spoiler i purposefully used that term because it applies to several characters.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on December 05, 2011, 10:48:56 AM
I would spoiler that.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 05, 2011, 11:46:21 AM
Oh, thank christ I didn't see this thread until now. I can only imagine what lies beneath that spoiler tag.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on December 05, 2011, 11:48:28 AM
Oh, thank christ I didn't see this thread until now. I can only imagine what lies beneath that spoiler tag.

The recipe for 7 herbs and spices......
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 05, 2011, 11:50:38 AM
Oh, thank christ I didn't see this thread until now. I can only imagine what lies beneath that spoiler tag.

The recipe for 7 herbs and spices......

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wguNVzEuVI0/TG5Uw2uAiqI/AAAAAAAAAqc/x6sgGu8c6Yk/s1600/face-melt.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on December 05, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
making my way through the series now,
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
dont see how that's much of a spoiler i purposefully used that term because it applies to several characters.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on December 05, 2011, 12:03:50 PM
making my way through the series now,
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
dont see how that's much of a spoiler i purposefully used that term because it applies to several characters.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on December 05, 2011, 12:09:49 PM
making my way through the series now,
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
dont see how that's much of a spoiler i purposefully used that term because it applies to several characters.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Interesting  ;)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 11, 2011, 06:08:48 PM
Tease.

http://www.youtube.com/v/sBrsM_WlfV8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on December 11, 2011, 06:16:59 PM
Tease.

http://www.youtube.com/v/sBrsM_WlfV8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
hopefully the kids face disintegrates like in the trailer
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on December 12, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
Okay, this is a cool article:

http://gizmodo.com/5867312/heres-how-game-of-thrones-dothraki-language-came-to-be
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on December 12, 2011, 08:49:38 PM
Okay, this is a cool article:

http://gizmodo.com/5867312/heres-how-game-of-thrones-dothraki-language-came-to-be
thats awesome.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 17, 2011, 04:38:53 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw44l0WTwP1qdxlfoo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on December 17, 2011, 09:20:58 PM
(http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/132268/132268,1291489174,1/stock-photo-medieval-knight-in-shining-armour-dressed-as-a-christmas-santa-claus-with-red-hat-and-cloak-and-a-66524338.jpg)
mrs. Claus must defeat the white walkers and restore the honor of the Stark name.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on December 22, 2011, 11:40:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/8hSp46jcDxI?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

Northern Ireland: Nature's Green Screen
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on December 22, 2011, 11:54:27 AM
well they also mention Pyke and the iron islands of the house  Greyjoy.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on December 31, 2011, 03:12:10 PM
What's Northern Ireland standing in for? Riverrun?

I'm gonna place a guess and say Storm's End.

The Stannis-narrated teaser trailer's chilling. I loved the three horn-calls at the end, too.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on January 04, 2012, 10:22:35 AM
So Netflix is still showing this series with an unknown release date,has a DvD release been announced?  I don't get HBO and after reading this thread the wait to see this series is killing me.  It sounds like it is so good.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: turbospaz3000 on January 04, 2012, 10:30:36 AM
So Netflix is still showing this series with an unknown release date,has a DvD release been announced?  I don't get HBO and after reading this thread the wait to see this series is killing me.  It sounds like it is so good.

google is your friend.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on January 04, 2012, 10:43:43 AM
So Netflix is still showing this series with an unknown release date,has a DvD release been announced?  I don't get HBO and after reading this thread the wait to see this series is killing me.  It sounds like it is so good.

google is your friend.

What's this google thing that people keep talking about?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: turbospaz3000 on January 04, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
So Netflix is still showing this series with an unknown release date,has a DvD release been announced?  I don't get HBO and after reading this thread the wait to see this series is killing me.  It sounds like it is so good.

google is your friend.

What's this google thing that people keep talking about?

from what i gather, it is some sort of information delivery tube.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 13, 2012, 01:55:41 PM
Season Two Premiere: Sunday, April 1st

That's this weekend, right?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on January 13, 2012, 02:01:24 PM
Season Two Premiere: Sunday, April 1st

That's this weekend, right?

No, unfortunately not. Dammit.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 16, 2012, 02:44:24 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2012/01/xlarge_a8117526be2de733a446ecaa1404f267.jpg)

Looks like somebody got a head start on the free Moet.


And I guess I'll just leave this here:

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2012/01/xlarge_ea52c5d40cad9b26de2e6db8b43859f1.jpg)

"Yeah, Jay? It's George. I was wondering if I could borrow your chin to wear to the Golden Globes."

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on January 16, 2012, 03:43:22 PM
Well, I got a copyright violation notice email, so I won't be downloading S2 of this. So I'll see season 2 sometime in 2013. Fucking HBO and their refusal to actually offer a way to watch something without subscribing.

Really?  Are they going to follow up on it, or was it just to scare you?  Do you use any sort of anonymizer?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 16, 2012, 03:53:40 PM
Well, I got a copyright violation notice email, so I won't be downloading S2 of this. So I'll see season 2 sometime in 2013. Fucking HBO and their refusal to actually offer a way to watch something without subscribing.

Really?  Are they going to follow up on it, or was it just to scare you?

They will not follow up. ISPs send out millions of these e-mails.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 17, 2012, 01:05:24 PM
Croatia = Instant Epic Setting

http://www.youtube.com/v/7p5ItWizs08?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

Lookin' good, Emilia. Lookin' goooood.

C'mon, April 1st! Be a day already!!!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on January 17, 2012, 04:43:07 PM
Today's Teefury Shirt

(http://www.teefury.com/products_large_images/1323293084_BOTTOM__12713h08m13.jpg)

I believe, gentlemen, that this qualifies as awesome sauce.....
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 19, 2012, 02:33:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/JvdRx80UsNA?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

Just seeing brief glimpses of the sets gets my Thrones Jones on. I can't freakin' wait for this to start!

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 29, 2012, 06:28:34 PM
Oh yeah.

http://www.youtube.com/v/rOzXsqoJhtE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 29, 2012, 06:58:09 PM
He called Melisandre a man?

That's a new character for this season, right?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on January 29, 2012, 07:04:51 PM
He called Melisandre a man?

That's a new character for this season, right?
yup.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on January 29, 2012, 07:49:50 PM
He called Melisandre a man?

That's a new character for this season, right?

Yeah, red-headed woman in the trailer when he says the second one.

Huh. He does say "three great men." No idea.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: shodan on January 29, 2012, 07:54:38 PM
He called Melisandre a man?

That's a new character for this season, right?

Yeah, red-headed woman in the trailer when he says the second one.

Huh. He does say "three great men." No idea.
well im at book four and theres no indication of any gender bending on the part of Melisandre, so i think it was just a bad cut. the three great men is referring to something completely different. though in retrospect
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on January 29, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Today's Teefury Shirt

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I believe, gentlemen, that this qualifies as awesome sauce.....

Mine just came in the mail on Saturday. Indeed, it's the awesome sauce.

He called Melisandre a man?

That's a new character for this season, right?

Yeah, red-headed woman in the trailer when he says the second one.

Semantically, I'm confused a little. Nonetheless, she's a priest(ess) of R'hllor.

The trailer's awesome.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 09, 2012, 12:33:36 PM
SEASON TWO PRODUCTION STILLS

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on February 13, 2012, 08:21:48 PM
http://collider.com/game-of-thrones-valentines-day-cards/145061/
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 14, 2012, 12:25:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/v/sfkOD5AzAkE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

The beginning is classic.  :D

My Thrones-Jones grows stronger with each passing day.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 14, 2012, 02:31:24 PM
More GoT Valentine stuff.

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421532_10150552993692734_74133697733_9174288_725596553_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423144_10150552993807734_74133697733_9174293_658656229_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/407478_10150552993757734_74133697733_9174290_1699911505_n.jpg)

DAT CHIN! So adorable.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 17, 2012, 12:45:10 PM
The Season One Blu-Ray set sounds pretty sweet (http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Reviewing_the_Game_of_Thrones_Blu-ray/). I'm really looking forward to the extras and commentaries.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 20, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/AfPtTnaDbdk?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

April 1st is starting to seem like an eternity from now.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on February 21, 2012, 03:31:20 PM
Then stop watching those videos, dummy!  :)
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Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on February 22, 2012, 01:57:26 PM
Can't wait for the DVD set.  Saw where its coming in March.

I really miss by cable TV sometimes.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 22, 2012, 02:05:42 PM
Season 1 blu ray is currently $35 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Game-of-Thrones-The-Complete-First-Season-Blu-ray/ref=%26%2574%2561g%3d%2562l%2575r%2561y%252d033%252d20?SubscriptionId=AKIAIY4YSQJMFDJATNBA&tag=bluray-033-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B003Y5HWMW&ASIN=B003Y5HWMW&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER).  Pretty good deal actually, since the msrp is $80.

Hell yeah. I'm gonna pre-order that up so I can re-watch season one leading up to the premiere.
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Post by: JimJ on February 22, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Season 1 blu ray is currently $35 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Game-of-Thrones-The-Complete-First-Season-Blu-ray/ref=%26%2574%2561g%3d%2562l%2575r%2561y%252d033%252d20?SubscriptionId=AKIAIY4YSQJMFDJATNBA&tag=bluray-033-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B003Y5HWMW&ASIN=B003Y5HWMW&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER).  Pretty good deal actually, since the msrp is $80.


I get an email from BluRay.com every other day or so that lists new price drops and was very happy to see this one. I've had it preordered ever since it was available for preorder. I would've been happy paying the original price of 54.99, so 34.99 is a goddamn steal.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 23, 2012, 09:38:54 AM
There are probably more than a few folks who can relate to this.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: wurwolf on February 24, 2012, 06:18:20 AM
I agree with the message of that bit wholeheartedly, but is it wrong that I laughed out loud at the fake ads?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 24, 2012, 09:03:45 AM
I agree with the message of that bit wholeheartedly, but is it wrong that I laughed out loud at the fake ads?

Not wrong at all, The Oatmeal is hilarious.

The fake ads are a crack up!

"UR PENIS = TOO SMALL...Y U NO GET BIG PENIS?!?"
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Post by: TeamRAD on February 26, 2012, 08:52:41 AM

Up until last night, I had no idea there was a videogame being released this Spring based on the series. My interest was piqued and I had to check out the trailer for it, and I'll be damned, Martin's a maester in it:

(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd449/CraigRAD/MaesterMartin.png)

 :D

I hope they've a 59-course meal at some point in the game!

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Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 26, 2012, 11:07:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/v/X66PDW1Mjf8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Post by: TeamRAD on February 27, 2012, 05:28:13 AM

http://www.youtube.com/v/X66PDW1Mjf8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 29, 2012, 10:21:26 PM
I did another GoT shirt design today. I think it's mildly clever.

http://www.zazzle.com/greyjoys_do_not_sew_tshirt-235459929312273910

 :clap:

Awesome! Love the design and it looks great on black. Nice job with the shading on the needle and squid. And yes, clever indeed.

I may actually have to buy this.
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Post by: wurwolf on March 01, 2012, 06:34:27 AM
I did another GoT shirt design today. I think it's mildly clever.

http://www.zazzle.com/greyjoys_do_not_sew_tshirt-235459929312273910

 :clap:

Awesome! Love the design and it looks great on black. Nice job with the shading on the needle and squid. And yes, clever indeed.

I may actually have to buy this.

Agreed, I think it's pretty awesome, too. I'm going to show it to APGIL. You'd think a squid would be a natural at sewing, with all of those appendages.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 01, 2012, 06:55:44 AM
I would never say that out loud in front of a Grejoy. :)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 01, 2012, 01:37:27 PM
Sneak peek at some of the GRRM commentary.

http://www.youtube.com/v/uaErTddleCQ?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 05, 2012, 11:36:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/UV3RflsNxak?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0fawo0NBv1qkyhuao1_500.png)


(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0fevhjs9z1qdawlio1_500.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 05, 2012, 12:04:22 PM
Seriously, is it fucking April yet?

When the series premiered last year, I hadn't read any of the books. I didn't even care about the series and only watched because APGIL put it on. As soon as the season ended, however, I started reading the books and now have read all five. I'm wondering if this second season will look any different to me because I know what's coming now. I feel as though the shock of Ned Stark's outcome cannot be topped, and in the end was the thing that really sold me on the series.

On a side note, every time I see Strong Belwas in the trailers I'm like, Hey, there's Strong Belwas!

(I'm also interested to know which names I've been pronouncing wrong in my head while reading.)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 05, 2012, 12:19:49 PM
He's in that trailer that DB posted at the :48 mark.
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Post by: Compound on March 05, 2012, 12:27:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/367Nd07eF9E?version=3

Watch it fast. Fox has been taking these down like mad.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 05, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
He's in that trailer that DB posted at the :48 mark.

The fat guy? I thought strong belwas was...you know, strong.  To be honest, I was always dead-bored by the Dany shit, so maybe I just missed it.

He's almost exactly as I pictured Strong Belwas. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but from what I remember of the description of him it looks like him. Strong Belwas was short and very round, but also very strong.

Plus someone who looked like Arstan Whitebeard was walking behind him in that clip as well.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 07, 2012, 02:34:56 PM
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0jcviM14A1qzlfumo1_500.jpg)

A Lannister always retracts his claws.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 07, 2012, 04:13:50 PM
Son, you don't know the Lannisters very well, do you?
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 07, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
Son, you don't know the Lannisters very well, do you?

On second thought, it should probably be more along the lines of "A Lannister never retracts his claws, because he's too busy stabbing you in the fucking throat with them."

It's a bit wordy, but that's what I'm going with.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Mrs. Dick Courier on March 08, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
Just got my season 1 DVD.  Now I can finally see what the big deal is
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 08, 2012, 01:48:42 PM
Just got my season 1 DVD.  Now I can finally see what the big deal is

Oh, you'll see what the big deal is.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Compound on March 08, 2012, 07:05:08 PM
And the Stark kids sing along to the theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/v/t92ukx0A2fk?version=3
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Post by: dignan on March 08, 2012, 08:12:36 PM
I was kind of like wurwolf in regards to this show.  Hadn't read any of the books last year at this time, didn't care much about the show, caught an episode...hooked immediately.  Read all five books, and am eagerly awaiting season 2.  Clash of Kings has been my favorite book of the series so far, I can't wait for April 1st!
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Post by: JimJ on March 08, 2012, 08:13:59 PM
And the Stark kids sing along to the theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/v/t92ukx0A2fk?version=3


One of the most entertaining moments of the commentaries.  I've been watching them all in order, the next one up is GRRM's commentary on episode 8, which is the one I've been looking forward to since the extras were announced.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 09, 2012, 05:11:03 AM
We just got our bluray of GoT this past week, so APGIL and I will start watching this weekend. Maybe I can convince him to turn on the goddamn subtitles.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 12, 2012, 11:58:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/7S14rYrSSW8?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

ENOUGH ALREADY!!! BRING IT!!!
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Post by: iv3rdawG on March 15, 2012, 03:07:15 PM
Poster for Season 2 (spoilers for those that haven't seen Season 1):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Kete on March 15, 2012, 03:30:17 PM
I don't think I've ever seen such a spoilery poster.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 15, 2012, 04:29:25 PM
It caused a bit of a stir when they posted it on their bookface page, which is pretty ludicrous at this point. After all, according to the new Official Spoiler Rules (http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6739482/official-spoiler-rules), a spoiler ceases to be a spoiler two months after the season finale.
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Post by: Tripe on March 15, 2012, 06:01:32 PM
Hmm I was rather hoping this would have filtered through to the entertainment packages on international flights. Alas, I'll not be able to check it out when I go to Madrid on Tuesday.
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Post by: Tripe on March 15, 2012, 06:10:05 PM
Eight days, oh the pictures I shall take.  :)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 15, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
http://www.imdb.com/news/ni24447044/

"Burly actor Jason Momoa accidentally broke both the hands of his scriptwriting pal David Benioff during a drinking game at the Game Of Thrones wrap party."

Now that's hammered. Hope he's got good speech recognition software, or better yet, a super-hot nurse who just happens to type 120WPM.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 16, 2012, 06:03:44 AM
I wonder why Momoa was even there. 

Maybe he was in a Dany flashback.
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Post by: wurwolf on March 16, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
I wonder why Momoa was even there. 

Maybe he was in a Dany flashback.

Maybe. I wonder if, after Conan tanked, he's just kind of hanging around on other people's couches (metaphorically speaking).

I wondered that, too. My first thought was, "Well, what else has he got to do?" But then I wondered if he's in a flashback. He doesn't reappear in the books except in Dany's thoughts and words, so I wondered if maybe he would show up again on the show.
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Post by: wurwolf on March 16, 2012, 06:33:30 AM
I wonder why Momoa was even there. 

Maybe he was in a Dany flashback.

Maybe. I wonder if, after Conan tanked, he's just kind of hanging around on other people's couches (metaphorically speaking).

I wondered that, too. My first thought was, "Well, what else has he got to do?" But then I wondered if he's in a flashback. He doesn't reappear in the books except in Dany's thoughts and words, so I wondered if maybe he would show up again on the show.

They seemed to really like him (aka, he's probably a bit of a party animal), so maybe they just invited him to the party anyway.  Finger-snapping good.

I remember reading that when he got the role he started reading the books, and when he got to the end of the first one he was like, "WHAT?! I'm DEAD???" So evidently the gig was pleasant to him and he seems a likable enough guy. I can totally see him still hanging out with the crew long after his role was complete.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 19, 2012, 06:38:42 AM
Less than two weeks! I can't wait!

Just last week we got the blu ray of the first season and we watched two episodes over this past weekend. I have to say that it is very different for me this time around, because the first time I watched it I hadn't read the books and I was completely unfamiliar with the story. This time, I've seen the first season and read all of the books, so I know who everyone is and where their story is going, and I can devote more time to picking up subtleties that I missed the first time around. For instance, the group of rangers from the wall are north of the wall when they see the white walkers (I assume it's north because they're talking about wildings and wildings aren't south of the wall, and because the white walkers wouldn't be seen south of the wall yet), but when the deserter from the group is picked up by riders from Winterfell he's clearly south of the wall. So how did he get past the wall? That was just one thing that occurred to me, there were other fun things to catch as well (Dany walking into the scalding water -- I know now how she was able to stand it) and because I know what's coming I was able to pick up on some of the foreshadowing more easily. I'm amazed by how much just went right over my head the first time around.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 19, 2012, 11:06:43 AM
I seriously considered taking up reading the books mainly because I was tempted to find out everything that happens, but given that the show has the potential to be on for years, that's the way I'd like to experience the story. Also, I love season premieres and finales, and all the excitement and anticipation that goes with them.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 19, 2012, 11:39:44 AM
Having watched the entire first season without having read the books, and watching it again after reading them, I can definitely say that I am enjoying the show so much more this time around. I feel like I actually know what's going on, whereas the first time, between not knowing who anyone was and the English accents, I hadn't a fucking clue. So I personally feel like having read the books is adding to my enjoyment of the series.

And as far as the premieres and finales goes, I feel no less excitement and anticipation over the start of Season 2 than I did at the end of Season 1, when I hadn't read any of the books.

Not trying to argue, just saying why I'm glad I read the books.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 20, 2012, 08:09:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/qzVSchaagNg?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Thrones Jones at maximum intensity.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 20, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
Every time I see Jorah Mormont now I think he's Sir Richard the newspaperman.

I know, which is weird because I fear I'm gonna start not liking him. Ooooh, I hate that Sir Richard SO MUCH!!!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 20, 2012, 09:58:06 PM
Every time I see Jorah Mormont now I think he's Sir Richard the newspaperman.

I know, which is weird because I fear I'm gonna start not liking him. Ooooh, I hate that Sir Richard SO MUCH!!!

He WILL publish that story about you!

Let him! I'll go to America and find a cowboy in the Middle West and bring him back to shake us up a bit!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 21, 2012, 06:53:55 AM
Every time I see Jorah Mormont now I think he's Sir Richard the newspaperman.

I know, which is weird because I fear I'm gonna start not liking him. Ooooh, I hate that Sir Richard SO MUCH!!!

He WILL publish that story about you!

Let him! I'll go to America and find a cowboy in the Middle West and bring him back to shake us up a bit!

Oh, you fallen woman.

I have no idea what you two are on about, but I think the casting of Ser Jorah Mormont is a big misstep for me. He's supposed to be darker and more burly.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 21, 2012, 07:45:14 AM
He plays a character on Downton Abbey who does what we were talking about.

Who would you have cast?

Not really sure... I have a picture of Jorah Mormont in my mind but I can't think of anyone who matches it. Not the guy they have cast now, though.
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Post by: wurwolf on March 21, 2012, 08:34:29 AM
I actually quite liked him, even though, as you say, he's not quite the same. He certainly does seem hairy.  Really, none of the characters are who I imagined they would be.  Maybe Robert was the closest out of all of them.  I certainly didn't think of Sean Bean as Ned, or Dinklage as Tyrion, but they were both good.

I know you hated Dany and probably skimmed over her chapters, but she refers to Ser Jorah as her "bear", and this guy doesn't really seem bear-like to me. Although years of looking at gay porn has probably tainted my image in that regard. :D
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 21, 2012, 10:54:40 AM
I get a kick out of imagining what literary characters look like when I'm reading something. It's interesting that you were still able to imagine your own conception of them after watching the show, wulf. At least I think you only started reading after watching the first season. Is that right?

I remember reading The Shining after seeing the movie and having a hell of a time imagining the characters looking anything other than the actors who portrayed them.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 21, 2012, 11:15:20 AM
Yeah, I watched the show first and then started reading the books after season 1. Most of the characters look like the actors in my mind but I feel as thought Jorah was described differently (he's also supposed to be balding and what little hair he has is dark) so when I was reading the actor never matched up with my vision of Jorah. Strong Belwas, though, holy shit I recognized him right away in the trailers for the new season.
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Post by: a pretty girl is like on March 21, 2012, 01:07:24 PM
Luis Guzman would make a good Ser Jorah.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 21, 2012, 02:03:07 PM
So, like a younger Oliver Reed, maybe? he's fairly dark and hairy.  He never really went bald though.
(http://i2.listal.com/image/258727/600full-oliver-reed.jpg)



Closer to Oliver Reed than Luis Guzman.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 23, 2012, 03:27:06 PM
'Game of Thrones' Creators Discuss Book Departures, Unleash New Photos, Clips

Quote
Addressing the upcoming second season, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss curb expectations for a TV version of "A Clash of Kings": "We’re not looking at our series as a book-by-book adaptation so much as an adaptation of George’s entire saga."

If there were any doubts over whether or not "war is coming," HBO is dismissing them ahead of Game of Thrones' April 1 return.

The network has released new images, clips and back story on Season 2, including feedback from co-creators and executive producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss. In talking about the next run, the duo also discuss ways in which the series is going to depart from author George R. R. Martin's source material.

"We’re not looking at our series as a book-by-book adaptation so much as an adaptation of George’s entire saga," said Benioff. "In other words, in our minds season two is not A Clash of Kings. It is the second season of our adaptation of [series] A Song of Ice and Fire."

Not that they aren't going by the books. The duo mention that, if they do get additional seasons, the novels will be executed in different fashions. A Sword of Storms, at 973 hardcover pages, won't fit into just one season, and A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons will likely be lumped together, as their time frames overlap.

"Fans of the books will obviously have more of a line into events, but we’re taking approaches that might surprise them as well," said Weiss. "A lot of the characters that George created are so rich and so wonderful that you often find yourself wondering what would happen if this one met that one: When Robb [Richard Madden] finds himself alone with Jaime [Nikolaj Coster-Waldau], for instance, what do they say? And we’ve been blessed with such fabulous, talented actors that you really find yourself just wanting to write more and more for them, to explore the characters that they’re making their own."

[Not really a spoiler; just being extra cautious. These are quotes from Benioff and Weiss about the overall season two storyline.]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Clarke, Benioff and Weiss discuss the character's dire circumstances in a new 22-minute featurette from HBO, "You Win or You Die." Watch it below for a crash course in Season 1 and a generous helping of what's ahead and take a look at all the new images in THR's Game of Thrones Season 2 gallery (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/game-thrones-season-2-preview-288547#1).


http://www.youtube.com/v/Dku_Uya8Ygc?version=3&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gbeenie on March 25, 2012, 02:46:40 PM
I often picture places when I'm reading.

Did I mention that I lived in an old farmhouse out in the country when, at the age of 10, I read the novelization of Night of The Living Dead?  Good times.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 25, 2012, 07:18:15 PM
Alright. One week to go and I think this is the last promo. Just one final tease to bring the anticipation to a boiling point.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Il7FT4p2jqE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on March 25, 2012, 07:22:52 PM
Episode 1 set to record on my DVR....

Frozen Planet, Mythbusters, Unchained Reaction, and Game of Thrones... Fuck yeah, Sunday!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 29, 2012, 09:59:03 AM
Okay, one last tease.

http://www.youtube.com/v/8JAQcQQ2H-A?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

I'd pledge the shit outta my allegiance, but you know, House Stark.



(http://i.imgur.com/ar9YY.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 29, 2012, 10:08:34 AM
That House Stark picture is awesome!  :clap:

THREE MORE DAYS!!!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 01, 2012, 10:36:21 AM
APGIL and I just finished up the blu ray of Season 1 of GoT and we are ready for tonight! Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 01, 2012, 11:01:16 AM
Gosh, watch season two of this or The Killing tonight........
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 01, 2012, 06:06:37 PM
We are ON!!!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 01, 2012, 07:56:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/txVxj.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 02, 2012, 06:21:50 AM
That was fantastic. They crammed a lot in that first episode, Dany doesn't show up until several chapters into the book so I was kind of surprised to see her. Also I don't recall Bran's wolf dreams starting this early. And there were a couple of scenes that didn't appear in the book (the scene between Cersei and Littlefinger didn't happen, for instance, and the slaughter of King Robert's bastards is mentioned but I don't think it was actually shown in the book).

Speaking of Littlefinger, did anyone notice how different Aiden Gillen's voice sounded? It sounded like they took out his voice and dubbed someone else in. It was so strange.

Also I figured out a big problem with why I have a hard time understanding English accents. They don't pronounce their R's when it appears in the middle of a word. So every time someone would mention the Starks I'd have to stop and think, Now why are they talking about stocks, and by the time I realized they meant Starks I was already a sentence behind.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 02, 2012, 07:25:23 AM
I really did not notice his voice sounding different, but I did not pay that much attention the first time.

I never have read the books and they do not attract me at the beginning, so I am probably the average HBO fan of the show!

But I do enjoy it.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 02, 2012, 07:08:15 PM
I don't know if the credits were longer. The only new things I noticed in the credits were that Peter Dinklage was listed first, where Sean Bean used to be, and they included Dragonstone and the Riverlands this time. I was surprised they went to Vaes Dothrak in the credits, since Danerys is now in the Red Waste and is no longer in Vaes Dothrak, but whatever.

I loved the CGI direwolf, too! When APGIL and I were watching the blu ray I mentioned to him that one of the disappointments of the first season was how small the direwolves were, that they were just the size of dogs and that I'd pictured them much, much bigger. Now this time, they were. Grey Wind was HUGE! It was fantastic.

I know what you mean about it being painful to watch some of this, knowing what's coming.

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They did a good job casting Craster. He's exactly as I pictured him. And his house is exactly as I pictured it, too.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 02, 2012, 07:37:11 PM
I kind of want to do a
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T-shirt for him.

LOL! That would be awesome. Lord knows that chain is about ten feet long, you'd have to continue on the back.

You are correct, GRRM did include aurochs. I just figured they were big deer or wild oxen type things; I didn't realize both direwolves and aurochs were actually real creatures. My spell check is going crazy with the wiggly red lines to tell me that neither direwolf nor auroch is a legit word. Whatever, spell check!

With regards to your second spoilered comment (and a warning to anyone who clicks this, it is full of major spoilers)...

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 02, 2012, 08:03:31 PM
Ah, that sounds right. I suppose I could've looked it up, but....meh. :)  I look forward to that scene.

I hope they get to do justice to the books and don't get shit-canned midway through the way HBO does with all their other series (I'm looking at you, Rome and especially Carnivale, which I stopped watching because I knew there was no longer any point in doing so).  It's really kind of unprecedented for a show like this--a fantasy/medieval show based on an ongoing series of books--to be so complex and so well-done.  The Sword of Truth thing that was on syndication was more how I think these things usually go, in that they're seriously dumb, usually cast with vaguely good-looking but awful actors, and packed with shitty effects and bad dialogue.  That show was Hercules and Xena quality.   This is really something quite different, even if some of the accents are a bit wonky, and every now and then the budget shows.

Truthfully, I would be really surprised if HBO's version of Game of Thrones was pulled before it comes to completion. There is a set story in GoT; GRRM has already written all of this out so there's no sputtering out the way Carnivale did, which had an excellent premise but just kind of lost direction after the first season. Rome had history to follow as a guideline, but there was nothing quite so detailed as GoT has been.

So you've got a compelling and set story -- but then there's the fan base, which for GoT is far and above any HBO show I've seen since the Sopranos. Book sales for the series have jumped, and I'm sure the blu ray/DVD has been selling well, too. HBO has a bona fide hit on their hands with this series, and you know what? It shows. I can tell by just one episode in the second season that the GoT budget has probably gotten larger due to its success. I mean look at the CGI direwolf, just as one example. I doubt they had the money for something like that last year.

And let's not forget Peter Dinklage's emmy!

So I doubt that this will just kind of peter out and limp away. As long as the fans stick with it (and I believe they will), this show will continue.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 02, 2012, 08:17:44 PM
Yeah, that's true, I hadn't considered that the plot is mostly done already. They have the advantage of being able to trim some of the fat too--a lot of the last book, for example. 

As far as I know the BD sets are a huge hit.  It's still #1 on the Amazon best sellers list.  Incidentally, the John Carter BD is #2. :)

Yeah, you can tell that GRRM and the writing staff are making changes to the story to, as you said, trim the fat and just to make things a little more palatable to the audience. I remember reading an interview with him once where he said that had he it to do all over again he probably would have made Dany sixteen or seventeen in the book instead of thirteen, and you can see that they've done that in the tv show. That's just one example of the things they've changed based on not only the audience's tastes but also because GRRM is editing himself as they go.

Glad to hear that about John Carter!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 03, 2012, 04:25:06 AM
Oh man. I'm gonna miss out on all these "about to happen" conversations. That's okay. I really prefer watching and not knowing what's coming. THE DRAMA!!!

Episode One:
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I'm just so stoked this is back on. I missed it, and the off-season really did seem like an eternity. It's great to see all the old characters again, the exciting promise of new characters, and such gorgeous locations. This truly is a television treat, and I can’t believe we get ten full episodes of it. I almost feel spoiled. God, I sound like a schoolgirl, but dammit if I'm not completely swept away by the grandeur of the thing.

I don’t think this show is going anywhere, either. I only see it gaining momentum and more fans along the way. And yeah, the key is having the story there where people can expect not only what they'll see, but also how much they expect to see for the story to be complete. All the pieces are in place for this thing to last as long as The Sopranos.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 03, 2012, 07:14:20 AM
You know, I read through the thing you spoilered, DB, and all I could think was, "Damn, I want to tell him what happens!"  :)

I won't.

I am not sure why you hate Sansa so much. Granted, she was at one time in love with Joffrey (or as "in love" as a teenager can be with a prince) and followed along with his machinations -- now she hates him. He murdered her father after she begged for mercy and he killed her septa, and it was because of him and his lies that her direwolf is dead. If she ever held any true affection for him, that feeling is long gone. Now she's stranded in Kings Landing with Robb as her only hope for rescue and the feeling that she has to play Joffrey's little games or he'll have her murdered as well. He's set a precedent for both violence and deceit, after all. Sansa is doing the best she can in an insanely desperate situation. She may not be as kick ass as Danerys or as feisty as Arya, but she's doing an admirable job of coping. She is really at the mercy of the Lannisters.

I'm glad you like Danerys. I don't talk about her much because I know Im hates her, but I adore her. She is one of the best characters in the book. I love how she went from frightened girl to the blood of the dragon, but, as you said, you still see vulnerable moments (and you will later on, too). That, to me, is great multi-faceting in a character. I like how you said that she looked like any mother of newborns trying to figure out what to do with a baby -- one of her titles is Mother of Dragons.

That "power is power" scene was added for the tv show and was not in the book. I feel like they've taken a decidedly different route with Cersei than the books; I hope I'm not spoiling anything by saying that along the way in the books she devolves into a mustache-twirling villain, and it gets a bit ridiculous. I think they're doing something very different with her for the tv show, and I like it a lot. She seems more collected and yet malevolent, like a river that looks calm on the surface but has a treacherous undercurrent. To me she's more sinister than the book Cersei because of that.

Your dire wolf gif is awesome. :)

Can I just say that I have always been disappointed with the casting of Renly. In the books Renly is full of vim and vigor and life -- a lot more refined than his brother, Robert, and a lot more personable than his brother, Stannis. The guy playing Renly now to me is like the best looking guy at the D&D table. Every time I see him spit out his lines with that dumb antler crown on his head I want to laugh.

They are doing an amazing job with the sets and locations for this show. Everything looks exactly as I pictured it from the books. I can hardly wait to see some of the upcoming events.
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Post by: MSTJedi on April 03, 2012, 07:45:09 AM
Can I just say that I have always been disappointed with the casting of Renly. In the books Renly is full of vim and vigor and life -- a lot more refined than his brother, Robert, and a lot more personable than his brother, Stannis. The guy playing Renly now to me is like the best looking guy at the D&D table. Every time I see him spit out his lines with that dumb antler crown on his head I want to laugh.

Same here. In the books, Renly's described as a younger, fitter Robert, but is nothing of the sort in the show. I guess for the series they wanted someone a little more obviously (stereotypically) gay. I don't really agree with the choice.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 03, 2012, 08:13:48 AM
I'm glad you like Danerys. I don't talk about her much because I know Im hates her, but I adore her.

I just see her as petulant and irresponsible, and for all her protestations of "wanting to do the right thing," she never really does.  But comment away, I'll try not to further piss on the parade. :)

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Can I just say that I have always been disappointed with the casting of Renly. In the books Renly is full of vim and vigor and life -- a lot more refined than his brother, Robert, and a lot more personable than his brother, Stannis. The guy playing Renly now to me is like the best looking guy at the D&D table.

The D&D table comment is priceless. :)  Yeah, he was a huge disappointment.  Renly really needed to be the Baratheon version of Jaime.

I'm actually not thrilled with their Stannis either; he just looks constipated, and while that's sort of OK, I also got the impression that the real ("real") Stannis was a lot tougher than he appear to be. He just looks kind of vaguely worried and just saying "fuck it, i'm going with this."  But it's early days, so we'll see.

You're not wrong about Danerys, Im. I see her as irresponsible and petulant, too. She makes a lot of wrong choices and too often lets her heart stand in the way of the smartest path. Still, that sort of thing endears her to me because she's neither callous nor conniving. I want to see her win because she's not only got the best claim to the throne but she pulled herself up from the bottom and forces people to deal with her on her terms. Some of the most poignant scenes in the book (and show), to me, were Danerys scenes.

And EXACTLY! Renly definitely should be the Baratheon version of Jaime! That's a perfect way to put it. I agree with you, MSTJedi, that they cast someone who fit the gay stereotype -- they did the same thing with the Knight of the Flowers -- which is a shame. I guess HBO doesn't know that gay people come in all shapes and sizes, and they did a disservice both to gay people and to the character of Renly to cast him based on their idea of the stereotype.

Both Renly and Stannis have claims to the throne through being Robert's brothers. Stannis got people to follow him because he's the older brother and because he's taciturn and unsentimental. Renly got people to follow him because he's smart and funny and handsome. Tell me, do you see any of that in the Renly that they cast?
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 03, 2012, 09:56:04 AM
I am not sure why you hate Sansa so much. Granted, she was at one time in love with Joffrey (or as "in love" as a teenager can be with a prince) and followed along with his machinations -- now she hates him. He murdered her father after she begged for mercy and he killed her septa, and it was because of him and his lies that her direwolf is dead. If she ever held any true affection for him, that feeling is long gone. Now she's stranded in Kings Landing with Robb as her only hope for rescue and the feeling that she has to play Joffrey's little games or he'll have her murdered as well. He's set a precedent for both violence and deceit, after all. Sansa is doing the best she can in an insanely desperate situation. She may not be as kick ass as Danerys or as feisty as Arya, but she's doing an admirable job of coping. She is really at the mercy of the Lannisters.

She just behaved so horribly over the course of the first season, especially when compared to the behavior of her sister, brothers, and parents. Although you do remind me she is just a stupid teenager, and now a terrified one at that. I think I sometimes overlook how old some of these people are supposed to be. Perhaps she's not savvy enough to realize how valuable she is to the Lannisters as their one remaining bargaining chip to get Jaime back; something that might infuse her with a bit of courage and confidence. Then again, perhaps I'm overlooking the possibility that Joffrey might kill her anyway at the drop of a hat because he's an evil lunatic.

All I know is, if Arya was in her place (which she never would have been) that little girl would've stabbed him in the fucking throat the first chance she got, regardless of the consequences.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 03, 2012, 10:07:35 AM
I hate to keep bringing up the books since these shows should and do stand alone, but in the book Sansa is around twelve when she's first brought to Kings Landing. She's not even a teenager yet but still a child. Even though they aged most of the characters up in the show, her actions are still very much in keeping with a pre-teen. Before she got to know him, Joffrey was her version of Justin Bieber!

All of the Stark kids (except Rickon, who knows wtf is going on with him) have weapons in their arsenals -- intangible weapons but weapons all the same -- and they all use them well. Sansa's is her prettiness and her ability to say the right thing and be charming. It's all she's got right now and she's doing her best to play the game, in her own way.

As far as her value in a trade for Jaime, even Robb said that simply trading someone like Jaime Lannister for one young girl is hardly fair (so he added a bunch of terms to his peace treaty). Women aren't especially valued in that society, and Sansa probably knows this. She is all the Lannisters have right now to bargain with, but she also probably knows just how precarious that is. If anything happens to Jaime, she's done.

That said, what I don't understand is why Robb is keeping Jaime in chains in mud and rain and cold. You'd think he'd want to take care of his biggest asset in his quest to become King of the North. What happens if Jaime gets sick and dies, you know?
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 03, 2012, 10:26:09 AM
Out of curiosity, how many years would you guys say the writers have aged the younger folks? From what I've read here, they've definitely aged Sansa and Danerys. What about Arya and Bran?
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Post by: wurwolf on April 03, 2012, 10:42:09 AM
That said, what I don't understand is why Robb is keeping Jaime in chains in mud and rain and cold. You'd think he'd want to take care of his biggest asset in his quest to become King of the North. What happens if Jaime gets sick and dies, you know?

That's interesting. It's definitely an insight from a 21st century perspective, but I don't know if it's that we know more about germs and whatever or that we're just spoiled by comfort.  Either way, the thinking is probably that "well shit, most of the soldiers sleep in this, so why can't he?"  And the chains are an obvious necessity.  By the way Robb talks about his bannermen, he's probably got the only key himself.

Sansa never bothered me in the books particularly; she was kind of a bimbo, but as you said that's kind of what women are expected to be in the society.  She's only now starting to figure out that it's something you -do-, not something you -are-. 

I'm not sure I agree, wurwolf, that Cersei in the books became a mustache-twirler; I think her motivations were always fairly clear and made sense (I feel like a proper MT villain doesn't really have motivations).  She's just a lot more certain about herself and about the world than her TV counterpart is, and about 1500% cuntier. 

I find it hilarious that she's still blonde in the new season, while the two Lannister lads have forsaken their peroxide, despite it being a plot point in the first season. :)

Good point. I guess it probably never entered anyone's mind that Jaime might get sick sitting out in the raw weather for days on end. I guess I am looking at it from today's standpoint and comfort level.

I see what you're saying about Cersei. I just think that she's a lot more clear about her designs on the throne than she is on tv. In the books it's pretty obvious that she might talk a good game about family and loyalty, but she really just wants to rule through her son. She's just as much after the throne as any of the others are. Whereas on tv that's not so clear to me. But, maybe that's why they added the "power is power" scene, so that it would be more evident that she was power hungry.

Out of curiosity, how many years would you guys say the writers have aged the younger folks? From what I've read here, they've definitely aged Sansa and Danerys. What about Arya and Bran?

I think they aged up everyone except Arya, Bran and Rickon. Robb, Jon Snow and Theon were around 16 or 17 in the books, now they seem more like 20 or so. The Lannisters and the Starks' ages weren't mentioned, I don't think, but they're older than I had assumed (Cat talks in the first book about still being young enough to give Ned another son). Viserys is older on the show, too.

Tywin is about right. The elder Mormont (can't remember his first name) is right, too.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 03, 2012, 10:53:39 AM
Jeor, I think?

I love their casting for him. James Cosmo really inhabits that role.  I also rather like that they (generally) have kept the Yorkshire accents for the northmen and the posh ones for the Lannisters.  Though that leaves a bit of a weird loophole where Robert's accent was concerned I guess, since that was northern and the Stormlands aren't.

Yeah, you're right, it was Jeor. I think he's fabulously cast, as well.

I didn't really notice the difference in the accents until we re-watched season 1 (I guess because I was just so bamboozled by it all not being American). But upon the second viewing I noticed it, and I kind of like that, too.

And who cares about dumb Robert's accent, he's gone anyway.  :D
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 03, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
'Game of Thrones' Season 2 Premiere Scores Record 3.9 Million Viewers
Rising 27 percent from its previous high, the HBO drama drew 6.3 million during the course of three Sunday broadcasts.


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HBO's Game of Thrones staged a royal return Sunday night, boasting its highest ratings to date with the premiere of its sophomore season. The episode, up a whopping 74 percent from its series premiere, also was the most-watched scripted series on cable for the week.

A total of 3.9 million viewers saw the inaugural broadcast, with 6.3 million tuning in among all of the network's broadcasts for the night. That marks 53 percent gains from its freshman season average and a 27 percent rise from its previous series high.

Thrones premiered in April 2011 to 2.2 million viewers and a 0.9 rating among adults 18-49. It showed steady ratings growth during the course of the freshman season, ending with a record 3 million and a 1.4 rating in the demo.

Although a significantly more costly production, Thrones' premiere easily bests the recent season highs for HBO's already-renewed Boardwalk Empire. Its Season 2 finale in December brought that series 3 million viewers.

It's also a huge jump from recent Sunday drama Luck. David Milch's horse-racing series drama debuted to 1.4 million before dropping significantly.

That'll do, show. That'll do.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 03, 2012, 01:22:22 PM
Spoiler for season 1 (how much longer do you think we need to consider this a spoiler?)
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This much longer?
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Post by: wurwolf on April 03, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
I feel like Season 1 is over and is out there on DVD, and has also been talked about endlessly on the internet. If someone doesn't know what happens by now, they're living under a rock.
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Post by: Raefire on April 03, 2012, 04:40:52 PM
I just love the fact that they didn't even wait a few episodes to have Joffery get slapped. First episode - BAM!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 03, 2012, 06:39:58 PM
There aren't many things more satisfying than watching people slap the shit outta that little prick.

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Post by: wurwolf on April 03, 2012, 06:56:01 PM
Even the Hound is into it.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 04, 2012, 12:18:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/biqw1vDPhsU?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

Arya better get some significant screen time in this one!
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Post by: wurwolf on April 05, 2012, 08:13:59 PM
I keep seeing loads of gifs of Arya and Gendry on tumblr so I think she probably will get a lot of screen time this week.
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 06, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Geek Out Merch

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'Inside HBO’s Game of Thrones' Takes You Further Into Westeros

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Are you ready for this Sunday’s Season Two premiere of Game of Thrones? Want the inside scoop on how HBO’s hit show came to be, and what goes on behind the Iron Throne, in book form? Well, you’ll have to wait on that – but like Winter, a new coffee table book called Inside HBO’s Game of Thrones is coming.

The book from Chronicle and HBO is still in production, so we probably won’t get a glimpse of it for the next few months. And in fact, the volume won’t be on book stands until the Fall. But we do have some info for you on what it will contain, right now:

- The book is written by Bryan Cogman, who you might know better as the writer of two season one episodes, and Story Editor on most of the show so far.

- A forward by A Song of Ice and Fire creator George R.R. Martin, followed by an afterword that will be available six years from now. Just kidding.

- A fold out map of Westeros! Gears probably not included.

- A breakdown of the Dothraki language, so you can challenge Klingon speakers for “ultimate nerd” status.

- As well as character profiles, on-set photography, maps, family trees and interviews with cast and crew members.

And then here’s two quotes about the project from the press release!

“The extraordinarily talented actors and artisans who work tirelessly to bring Game of Thrones to life are unequaled anywhere,” stated Cogman. “This book is a tribute to them. It’s been a joy to write for this fantastic series and an honor to put together this book, which I hope will please fans, both old and new.”

“The team at Chronicle Books loves the Song of Fire and Ice and is obsessed with the show,” said Sarah Malarkey, Chronicle Books’ Executive Editorial Director. “The chance to collaborate with HBO and the Game of Thrones team to capture their magic on paper is a total treat for us—and we anticipate will be for the show’s fans, too.”

The book will be available at the HBO Shop when they darn well get around to it, for a suggested retail price of $40.00 or one petrified dragon egg, whichever is of lesser value at the time.

Stop it, you're killing me.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 06, 2012, 08:08:01 PM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 09, 2012, 07:40:32 PM
SO... er... has anyone who's read the books seen last night's show?
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 10, 2012, 09:32:16 AM
Episode Two:

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Some great, although not surprising, news on the ratings front.

'Game of Thrones' Retains More Than 97 Percent of Premiere Audience

The HBO series' ratings remain almost unmoved in the second outing of the season, bringing in 3.8 million viewers during its initial airing.


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In something of a rare feat, HBO's Game of Thrones continued its sophomore season Sunday night without losing a noticeable portion of its premiere audience.

Last week's record 3.9 million viewers were followed by 3.8 million viewers for last night's 9 p.m. airing of the second episode, a more than 97 percent retention rate. An additional 1.1 million viewers watched the encore at 11 p.m.

With limited data from encores, On Demand and HBO Go after last week's premiere, the network also cites that the Season 2 opener of Game of Thrones brought in 7.5 million viewers, putting it on track to top last year's average gross of 9.3 million viewers.

Despite gains and good news, HBO remains silent on an official Season 3 pick-up for the series --  which, given the numbers and shower of media attention, seems imminent.

Game of Thrones premiered in April 2011 to 2.2 million viewers and a 0.9 rating among adults 18-49, growing over its 10 episode run to end with 3 million viewers and a 1.4 rating in the demo. It's currently on track to best its freshman average by more than 50 percent.

UPDATE:

'Game of Thrones' renewed for third season

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Game of Thrones has been officially renewed for a third season by HBO. The network ordered another 10 episodes of the fantasy hit, which recently debuted its second season to record ratings, then followed up with a nearly identical performance this week.

The third season is expected to be more-or-less based on the first half of George R.R. Martin’s A Storm of Swords — the third novel of his “Song of Ice and Fire” series of fantasy bestsellers. Long a fan favorite book of the series,  Swords has several dramatic twists and confrontations. Given the book’s length (the paperback edition is 1216 pages) and action-packed content, producers plan to break up the novel into two seasons. So … save the date!

“As George and all his fans have said for a long time, there’s no way to do it in a single season, so it’s being broken into two,” said executive producer David Benioff during a recent interview with EW. “We’re still kind of figuring out exactly what goes where. We don’t want it to feel like a two-part season … From the beginning we’d always prayed we’d get to season three at least because, you know, two of our favorite scenes from the entire saga are in season three.”

So far Thrones is averaging 3.9 million viewers for debut episodes this season, with the second season premiere’s all-viewing total up to around 7.5 million viewers.

As if that wasn't going to happen. Still nice to make it official.

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Post by: wurwolf on April 10, 2012, 10:35:01 AM
WOOOO SEASON THREE! Like you said, knew it was going to happen but glad to see it made official.

They are making a lot of changes from the book this season.

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I like Salladhor Saan in the show much more than I do in the book. Davos has always been a great character. Also I'm finding tv Gendry much more likable than book Gendry. I think this has a lot to do with the actors, and the life they're imbuing in their characters. The words are the same, or at least close to it, but the way these two characters in particular have been brought to life says a lot about the people who are portraying them.

This time around, along with much pouting and being grumpy, APGIL actually turned on the subtitles for me. It was fantastic! I understood everything going on the first time around and didn't have to guess at what anyone was saying! I LOVED IT SO MUCH!!! He didn't talk to me for the rest of the night but I didn't care. Subtitles! Yay!
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Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 10, 2012, 10:58:13 AM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 10, 2012, 11:39:49 AM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on April 10, 2012, 12:27:16 PM
It's hard not to say anything to DB about certain spoilers, but I'll keep my mouth shut. Not to mention, you never know when they'll take a detour from the books. It seems the biggest things that they stray from are making plain in the series what is only hinted at in the books.

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 10, 2012, 12:44:26 PM
It's hard not to say anything to DB about certain spoilers, but I'll keep my mouth shut. Not to mention, you never know when they'll take a detour from the books. It seems the biggest things that they stray from are making plain in the series what is only hinted at in the books.

Book spoiler:
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While I do miss out on some of the discussion, I do appreciate the discretion.

I enjoy hearing about how they've changed things for the show, after they've happened of course. It's interesting to me from the standpoint of this being such a huge undertaking from a scriptwriting perspective to take these books and put them on the screen. It's fun to hear how the writers dealt with certain story elements, especially what they've added--presumably to spice things up a bit.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 10, 2012, 12:52:50 PM
It's hard not to say anything to DB about certain spoilers, but I'll keep my mouth shut. Not to mention, you never know when they'll take a detour from the books. It seems the biggest things that they stray from are making plain in the series what is only hinted at in the books.

Book spoiler:
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I generally try to keep any upcoming hints or speculation about the book completely out of this thread, so that people who haven't read the books have no idea what's coming. That said...

DB, don't click this spoiler, because this is about something that's going to happen:

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"Book spoiler" works, too.

Also, I agree that it is difficult not to spoil things for DB. Like when he was shipping Danerys and the Dothraki guy. That was fun. :)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on April 10, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 10, 2012, 06:23:27 PM
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Unspoilering this part because it doesn't really need to be spoilered. I'm only spoilering things that are mentioned in the book and either will come to fruition in the show or haven't been completely ruled out in the show.

That discussion forum thread was interesting, thanks for linking that (not linking it because it is 100% spoilerrific). I guess a lot of other people thought that Stannis and Melisandre had sex in the books, too, so evidently I'm wrong there? I don't know. What seems to be questioned the most in the thread is Stannis' motive for the act. The tv show has only just introduced Stannis and hasn't quite made it clear (I don't think) that he is all about duty and obligation, and that he's not the kind of person who would engage in a sexual relationship with Melisandre based on mere lust. Nor would he really do such a thing simply for the promise of a son, because that son would be a bastard and he'd be no better than his brother, Robert, with all of his bastards everywhere.

I think they had sex for a very specific purpose which will eventually be revealed, but that's just speculation on my part. Book Stannis has never had a problem keeping it in his pants.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 10, 2012, 06:43:00 PM
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Unspoilering this part because it doesn't really need to be spoilered. I'm only spoilering things that are mentioned in the book and either will come to fruition in the show or haven't been completely ruled out in the show.

That discussion forum thread was interesting, thanks for linking that (not linking it because it is 100% spoilerrific). I guess a lot of other people thought that Stannis and Melisandre had sex in the books, too, so evidently I'm wrong there? I don't know. What seems to be questioned the most in the thread is Stannis' motive for the act. The tv show has only just introduced Stannis and hasn't quite made it clear (I don't think) that he is all about duty and obligation, and that he's not the kind of person who would engage in a sexual relationship with Melisandre based on mere lust. Nor would he really do such a thing simply for the promise of a son, because that son would be a bastard and he'd be no better than his brother, Robert, with all of his bastards everywhere.

I think they had sex for a very specific purpose which will eventually be revealed, but that's just speculation on my part. Book Stannis has never had a problem keeping it in his pants.

Could it be she wields some sort of supernatural power over him? I'm not clear on exactly what she is, but that whole trip with drinking the poison and the glowing necklace was pretty witchy.

Ooo-ooh, witchayy woman...
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 10, 2012, 07:53:40 PM
She might, although I think Stannis is pretty strong-minded. I get the feeling that he's more of an ally or an equal to Melisandre than he is a puppet. They're in this together, I think.

She's a priestess, but for all intents and purposes she's a witch. She does some pretty out there stuff in the books, too -- you've just seen the tip of the iceberg so far.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 11, 2012, 03:47:51 AM
Speaking as someone who has not read the books or even cares too......

LOTS of confusing characters and good acting in this show.   Kind of confusing to follow all the sub stories of course.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on April 11, 2012, 05:52:25 AM
Speaking as someone who has not read the books or even cares too......

LOTS of confusing characters and good acting in this show.   Kind of confusing to follow all the sub stories of course.


I agree.  And since I haven't read the stories I feel free to speculate on the little prick Joffrey's demise.  I can see Cersei  poisoning her own son or having something to do with his death.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 11, 2012, 07:42:15 AM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on April 12, 2012, 11:09:41 AM
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At the risk of sounding ignorant,  what does that mean?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 12, 2012, 11:20:32 AM
Did you watch the first season yet?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 12, 2012, 08:03:03 PM
Ah, Syrio. Google "Not today Game of thrones" and you'll see a good clip that explains it.

Finally saw "The Nightlands."

First thoughts:  Lots of fucking.  Pretty much all fucking in this show is shorthand for "brutality" in some way, isn't it?  The scene in Littlefinger's brothel was good, but kind of tough to watch.

wurwolf, you're totally right about Gendry. He was a stump in the books, if memory serves; he's not that way here.  Quite likeable really.

It was fun watching Theon getting the piss taken out of him, the arrogant, self-important twat.  I think the scenes with him on the boat and with Asha were pretty much verbatim from the books.

Balon isn't what I expected.  Thinking about it I thought maybe he'd have a west country or welsh accent, while he has quite a posh one. I like that Theon sounds like a Stark instead of them; probably unintentional, but it works well.

I love Davos. He's my favorite character in the books, and the guy playing him is killing it.
Were his kids devout in the books? I forget.  I do think it's an interesting discussion for them to have here; it's a subtext in the books, certainly, but I don't feel like religion comes to the forefront there.

Re: Your spoiler, I didn't think it was that explicit in the books either.  Like there was something there, but not...out in the open like that.  However, I like that Melisandre makes it a point of yielding to the faith.  Again, sex is sort of brutal here, and really about power; the fact that he fucks her on the map of Westeros in order to get a son is also a nice touch.  It's a pretty common trope in ancient literature, at least, that sex is about power as well (indeed, homosexuality as a "bad" thing in the ancient world is defined largely in terms of who's on the receiving end and who's the penetrator). I wonder who working on the scripts is weaving this kind of thing in?  It seems less prevalent in the books.

Maybe it was just because I was watching on my computer, but this episode was really dark. Not so much in tone, but rather in actual lack of light. Kind of hard to see. Was it this way for you guys?

Some good lines:

--"You don't have to be a knight to buy armor. Any idiot can buy armor."
-"How do you know?"
--"I've sold armor."

"You don't know how persuasive I am. I've never tried to fuck you."

"I'm no king, but I think there's more to ruling than that."

Not as good as the first ep, but I liked it well enough. We need some kind of a setpiece soon to liven things up a bit.



Yeah, there was tons of sex in this episode. And usually it's fine with me, and it was this time around, too, but when they had three sex scenes in a row I was like, Okay, are you trying to tell us something, Game of Thrones? You're right about it being about power -- I hadn't noticed how little actual joyful fucking there is in this show until you just pointed it out.

I'm glad you agree with me about Gendry, so I know it's not just me. He was an okay kid in the books but there was nothing super special about him as a character. The guy on tv is doing a great job with this character and I'm really enjoying the interaction between him and Arya, something that surprises me because I can't stand Arya, either in the book or the show.

I am alone in my love for Theon, I guess. I have a soft spot for arrogant dudes. Even as time goes on I continue to love him -- his story is one of the most interesting and compelling for me in the series.

I agree, the guy playing Davos is spot on with the role. Davos is a great character and this guy has him absolutely nailed. As far as his kids being devout, I remember that they switched over to R'hollor but I don't remember them being especially wild about their new religion -- cripes, I don't even remember any of his kids having dialog in the books.

I can see why it would have been dark to watch, because there were a lot of dimly lit scenes. I had no problem seeing it, though, except for the end with Craster in the woods with the baby.

Didn't mention it before but I loved the scenes between Samwell and Jon Snow in this episode. The guy playing Sam couldn't have been better cast, in my opinion. He's sweet and funny and wonderfully craven, just as he was in the books.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 12, 2012, 08:20:24 PM
And very fat! Even fatter than I pictured Sam, really.  It's sort of a wonder he stays that fat at the Wall.

I'm sad you don't like Arya. She's probably my favorite of the Stark children, in both the book and the TV show.  I could do without Bran; that actor especially bugs me for some reason.  I think he reminds me of one of my nephews I don't particularly like.    I guess that balances out your like for Theon, because to me,
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  I mean, I can see that he's sort of trapped and is an outsider wherever he goes, but that doesn't excuse him being a complete cocksucker in the meantime.

You're right, Sam is really fat, although I wonder how much of that is padding. I mean, my god, he's perfectly round.

Something about Arya just rubs me the wrong way. I find her boring, mostly. I'm always glad when her scenes are done, in the show and the book.

As far as your spoiler goes...
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But yeah, I agree he is a presumptuous and arrogant dick. That's kind of his appeal (for me).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 12, 2012, 08:38:40 PM
Does that mean APGiL is an iron islander at heart?

Iron islander, Pacific islander... same thing.  ;)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 13, 2012, 05:36:47 AM
The AV Club writeup this week was pretty good. They point out that the whole episode was really about how it's not ok to be in power in Westeros (or among the Dothraki) unless you're a man, which I sort of missed. It ties it together thematically more completely than just the fucking does.

They also point out the idiocy of changing Asha to Yara in order to avoid confusion with Osha, but then making it an anagram of "Arya."


That is an amazing write up. I also read the TWoP recaps, but they are exactly that -- recaps. A blow-by-blow account of the entire episode. It's fun to relive it and pick up things I missed upon viewing, but I think I enjoy the AV Club's reviews just as much, for lines like this lovely little nod to Aiden Gillen's other HBO show as much as anything else:

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This week’s proposed spinoff: Baelish And Whores. In which Petyr Baelish struggles with the sheer difficulties inherent in running a brothel in a city rife with political intrigue. In a third season subplot, he will run for mayor.

I didn't really pick up on the women struggling for power, and just how taboo that notion is in that world. It's something I didn't pick up in the book, either, and I'm interested to see how it all plays out this season. I especially liked this from the review:

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It’s when the show can find these little connections between storylines that it goes from a ridiculously entertaining show with lots of fun storylines and characters to something on the level of Breaking Bad or Mad Men, and that it’s done so so early this season bodes well for the season to come.

Indeed.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 13, 2012, 07:52:53 AM
Someone in the AV Club expert review thread said that the fact that the show has left Stannis' daughter out of the mix shows that she doesn't matter at all to the overall plot of the books and so was cut out completely. I have noticed that, too, and not just in regards to Shireen but to other characters as well, and it's kind of a spoiler for the books because now you know Shireen's not going to be an issue past book 5.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 13, 2012, 08:07:19 AM
Since I do not read the books, if you quizzed me I could not give you anyone's name or any story that is different from the books.

This forum is pretty amazing.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 13, 2012, 08:21:06 AM
She's got grayscale scarring, right?
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And anyway, they never said he doesn't have a daughter; they never mentioned her at all.  She's kind of like Rickon in that regard, except I think we see him...once?

Yeah, she's the one with the grayscale scarring. And your spoiler is exactly why I'm surprised they haven't mentioned her... yet.

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on April 13, 2012, 09:34:50 AM
This tweet from Sean made my day:

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Knifed the Honda dealer, declared "I pay the iron price, not the gold!" Guess none of these shrieking idiots know Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on April 13, 2012, 10:19:38 AM
Ah, Syrio. Google "Not today Game of thrones" and you'll see a good clip that explains it.



Got it.  Saw the first season but am not as big a fan as you all are.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 14, 2012, 06:46:44 AM
There are some pretty dumbass decisions going on in that story.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Smith Dr John Smith on April 14, 2012, 07:18:53 AM
I just wish this show would finally come off of "very long wait" on Netflix so I could see it already!  I have a feeling that by the time I see the first episode it will be over.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on April 16, 2012, 07:22:34 AM
You'll have to go disc-only with Netflix on this one, I'm afraid, unless you have HBO and access to HBO Go: http://www.examiner.com/game-of-thrones-in-national/no-netflix-streaming-game-of-thrones-anytime-soon-if-ever (http://www.examiner.com/game-of-thrones-in-national/no-netflix-streaming-game-of-thrones-anytime-soon-if-ever)

Also, every time I feel like going out and buying the books, I find myself stopping and not doing it. Partially because all the books are fairly expensive in one snap - but also because I'm finding it extremely entertaining only knowing snippets of what happens in them, and really not knowing where the story is going on the show. It makes the show far more exciting for me, and I'm not inclined to be pissed off about something if it's changed from the novel. Kinda of the same reason I still haven't read any of the Walking Dead collections.

But seriously, even with it busy in multiple plots now, the fact that I'm not lost at all in any of these storylines is just a testament to how well they're handling everything. Kudos to the writers.

And kudos to Dinklage, especially. The guy was an excellent actor before he joined the series, but he just shines in this role.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 16, 2012, 07:59:20 AM
Speaking of that, they dropped one of my favorite things from the books...

(This is a very mild spoiler, and is really only spoilery if you haven't read the books but plan on doing so.)

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Also, farewell, Lommy. That's what you get for yielding.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bastard Poetry on April 16, 2012, 05:11:43 PM
They really did a perfect job casting Brienne. When I saw a photo of the actress, my initial thought was that she was far too pretty to be playing Brienne, but WOW, they really did a great job making her.. homely. Also, she's freakishly tall! When she was walking alongside Catelyn, she looked like a giant.

Margaery's acknowledgment and support of Renly's homosexuality wasn't in the book--his sexuality was only implied--but it makes perfect sense. They're really doing a great job with the "added" scenes; adding clarification for those things we may have suspected as readers, even if only on a subconscious level. This is one of those rare occasions when the adaptation gives the readers more insight, and less rage, over minor changes.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Danecho1967 on April 16, 2012, 07:54:05 PM
My first thought about Brienne was a line from Deuce Bigalow.

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I agree with Raefire.  I haven't read the books either, but that seems to be a good idea, because I don't know what's coming next.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on April 18, 2012, 02:05:19 PM
The sexposition scenes are starting to bore me.  First of all, it's never a good thing to have that much exposition to throw at the audience.  Secondly, when you're getting made fun of by a lame SNL skit, it's time to start rethinking how things get done.  There's something perfunctory about the scenes at this point.  It's script writing by checklist. 

When Al Swearengen lets you in on his thoughts whilst being fellated, it fucking has impact.  There's a greater meaning to it then just the teehee factor.  Really, the only good one from Game of Thrones has been Little Finger's from season 1. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bastard Poetry on April 18, 2012, 10:56:37 PM
Al Swearengen is a dark god among men.

As far as the perfunctory dialogue and exposition goes, I do see what you mean, but I don't think it can really be done any other way. HBO's already exceeding expectations for a book-to-media adaptation, which is extremely rare. SNL can make lame skits about anything; it doesn't change the quality of the show at all.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on April 19, 2012, 12:51:58 PM
Al Swearengen is a dark god among men.

As far as the perfunctory dialogue and exposition goes, I do see what you mean, but I don't think it can really be done any other way. HBO's already exceeding expectations for a book-to-media adaptation, which is extremely rare. SNL can make lame skits about anything; it doesn't change the quality of the show at all.

Yeah, there is another way.  Show it.  Don't just talk about it. 

I'll use Deadwood as an example again.  The very first scene (the hanging): you learn about the town of Deadwood, Bullock's character traits, why he's going to Deadwood, who he's going with, what he expects to be doing there, and the general lawlessness of the country the show wants to portray.  And you can infer from all this given information that what Bullock expects to do is not even close to what will eventually happen.  All in about 6 highly entertaining yet tension-filled minutes.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gbeenie on April 19, 2012, 03:02:32 PM
Speaking as someone who has not read the books or even cares too......

LOTS of confusing characters and good acting in this show.   Kind of confusing to follow all the sub stories of course.


I agree.  And since I haven't read the stories I feel free to speculate on the little prick Joffrey's demise.  I can see Cersei  poisoning her own son or having something to do with his death.

I'm pushing for Arya to stick him.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on April 20, 2012, 02:39:12 PM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bastard Poetry on April 23, 2012, 01:19:41 AM
Yeah, there is another way.  Show it.  Don't just talk about it. 

I'll use Deadwood as an example again.  The very first scene (the hanging): you learn about the town of Deadwood, Bullock's character traits, why he's going to Deadwood, who he's going with, what he expects to be doing there, and the general lawlessness of the country the show wants to portray.  And you can infer from all this given information that what Bullock expects to do is not even close to what will eventually happen.  All in about 6 highly entertaining yet tension-filled minutes.

Can't argue there. Deadwood did everything so masterfully--it's still the only thing in existence, that I know of, that can make profanity sound poetic!

Re: this week's GoT episode - Melisandre's baby was a lot cuter than I expected him to be. Awwww..
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on April 26, 2012, 07:25:56 AM
All right - I gotta give props to the child actors here. They really stepped it up for "Garden of Bones." Especially Jack Gleeson as Joffrey. Good lord, I have NEVER hated a character so much before. And I thought Joffrey was a sadistic little prick last season...

And of course, Dinklage continues to be awesome.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bastard Poetry on April 26, 2012, 07:07:04 PM
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30600000/GoT-Characters-USA-politicians-game-of-thrones-30610974-553-1060.png)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on April 26, 2012, 07:35:03 PM
Alright, I have a nagging question...Is that red comet still there? Or was it just for that one episode?

Also, I may not be a big fan of Sarah Silverman, but this tweet was good:

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 02, 2012, 11:24:40 AM
- Nice to see some actual progress on the Dany storyline.  I was getting kind of tired of the "wander around, whining" thing (which I consider to be 99% of her story in the books, so it's nice that it was trimmed quite a lot for tv).
- The shot of Qarth when the gates open was spectacular. Too bad once we're inside we don't see that kind of vista again.  However, the warlock guy was awesome (why do I remember so little of this?).

Maybe because, by your own admission, you skipped most of the Danerys parts of the books?  ;)

I'm looking forward to seeing Qarth along with the House of the Undying. I saw a couple of gifs on tumblr of Drogon trying to flame a piece of meat and it looked adorable. Looking forward to seeing that, too. (The warlock's name is Pyat Pree, btw.)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 02, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
No, I read it all. One book I skipped the chapters and then came back to them at the end. I read all the chapters that way though, not just Dany's

Oh okay, I guess I misunderstood. I didn't realize you'd read them at all.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bastard Poetry on May 02, 2012, 10:31:23 PM
"Jaqen apparently follows the RED god? What? Does this mean they aren't going to bother with the Many-Faced God? What about the coin? What about Arya's training? I'mma scared!"

He actually refers to the Red God in the book, too. The Faceless Men serve the Many-Faced God (Death), and every manifestation of death in every religion. R'hllor is the fiery aspect, and since Jaqen, Biter and Rorge were almost killed by fire, R'hllor is the version they now owe.

That actually threw me for a loop as well, but the friendly researcher-nerds at westeros.org clarified the whole thing.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 03, 2012, 04:49:30 AM
I was confused by that, too. Thanks for posting that information!  :clap:
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 03, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
As someone who does not read the books, the names of all these characters means almost nothing as they are almost so odd, you cannot remember them.  But the show is still good.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bastard Poetry on May 04, 2012, 01:10:58 AM
Found this great parody series for Game of Thrones

Season 1 playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL25C75E567A8DF6DC&feature=plcp

Season 2 playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL47BAA63BD182FBCA&feature=plcp

Sorry if you guys are already aware of it. Still great fun happy super enjoyment times.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on May 04, 2012, 08:59:48 AM
Game Of Thrones Parody?  The title needs some work.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gbeenie on May 04, 2012, 08:06:43 PM
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30600000/GoT-Characters-USA-politicians-game-of-thrones-30610974-553-1060.png)

Eh. It's nowhere near as clever as it aspires to be; which wouldn't, in itself, be a problem, except that I have roughly 0% doubt that the author endlessly congratulated himself for his cleverness.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on May 10, 2012, 03:16:32 AM
They could do this every single episode and I don't think I'd ever get tired of it.
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on May 10, 2012, 07:43:06 AM
They could do this every single episode and I don't think I'd ever get tired of it.
(http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/tumblr_m3o2xfTd1I1qazkdco1_250.gif)
(http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/thetvscreen.gif)


Reminds of the slapping scene from Airplane.  Maybe there will be an episode where all the characters line up and take turns slapping that little shit.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: 100dollars on May 14, 2012, 06:18:43 PM
someone splain to me the most recent episode where Arya and Tywin are talking and he says she should act like a noble person.  Does he know or suspect she's a Stark?  Or just noble born?  I dinna understand.  No spoilers please.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gbeenie on May 16, 2012, 12:27:26 PM
The impression I got is that Big Daddy Lannister was able to tell that Arya's only pretending to be a commoner (in case anyone's not figured out yet, he's REALLY smart). But, he's intrigued by her cleverness, and I have a hard time believing she'd still be walking around unfettered if he even suspected she was Arya Stark.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 17, 2012, 09:30:21 AM
The impression I got is that Big Daddy Lannister was able to tell that Arya's only pretending to be a commoner (in case anyone's not figured out yet, he's REALLY smart). But, he's intrigued by her cleverness, and I have a hard time believing she'd still be walking around unfettered if he even suspected she was Arya Stark.

I'm reasonably sure they never met in the books.

They did not.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on May 17, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VNKQe.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on May 17, 2012, 09:38:19 PM
 :D

What a couple o' hams!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 18, 2012, 05:37:45 AM
There's so little room for kids to be kids in this show that it's kind of refreshing to see the actors goofing around.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on May 19, 2012, 10:09:20 AM
Quite a contrast to first watch an episode of Game of throne and then Rifftrax Live "Jack the Giant Killer."  Hilarious.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on May 20, 2012, 07:20:38 PM
Yeah, they've changed quite a bit from the books, but that is to be expected.  COnversation happen in different circumstances, but some are kinda puzzling.


The Mysterious non-appearance of the Reeds.

Like Jon & Ygritte

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Xaro Xhoan Daxos

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But honestly, if anything, it makes Dany's part somewhat more interesting and not super boring.  In the books, she just goes from place to place for seemingly no reason.  Her story dosent ramp up until Slaver's Bay anyway.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 21, 2012, 07:34:44 AM
APGIL and I are slowly catching up. I think we're only two episodes behind now. We just watched the one where Dany's dragons are taken.

I am a little mystified by the changes they've been making. I can see making minor changes because the book is so sprawling and you need to run a tighter ship with a television show, but it seems like things are being changed in ways that will dramatically alter characters' stories -- Dany, in particular, with her stolen dragons. That wasn't in the book at all and probably changes what was one of my favorite Danerys scenes (at the end of a Clash of Kings).

Some of the changes are somewhat spoilerish for the series as a whole, because GRRM is involved in the tv show and if he approves the changes then it might mean something in the book. This is mostly due to the people who have been cut out of the show, like the Reeds, Shireen and Patchface. I can only assume that they have no great bearing on the story as a whole. We've got five books and GRRM has said there would be seven, so I assume that if Shireen isn't showing up in the show then her role in the story as a whole is kind of inconsequential.

Spoilering this because there's a plot point that I'm not sure has been resolved yet...

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on May 21, 2012, 09:21:10 AM
Hasn't been played in a while but wanted to post one of my favorite themes from this season, and the show in general, ranking up there with "Await the King's Justice" from last season. "Lord of Light":

http://www.youtube.com//v/HzuhbYQM1IY

http://www.youtube.com/v/lFpAA3cxCac
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 22, 2012, 08:55:21 AM
I realized with a start once the other actor started talking about "my bastard" that he was Roose Bolton.  Not at all what I imagined, but I liked him.

Same. Not at all what I thought Roose Bolton would be (especially his voice), and I really can't tell if I like him or not. But yeah, when he said "my bastard" and mentioned Dreadfort, I knew he was Roose.


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Harrenhal:
This is my favorite stuff; the guy playing Jaqen is awesome. Arya is awesome. And Charles Dance is awesome.  I'd watch a series of those two just sitting in that room and talking. 

I am really not liking the Arya/Tywin scenes at all. Tywin spends way too much time talking to Arya and cares far too much about her as a person and her opinion. I mean she's just there to fetch him food and drink. Why would a man of Tywin's stature be so concerned with a servant? So I feel like that stuff is just shoe-horned in for exposition/plot interest.

I agree, though, that the guy playing Jaqen is awesome. For some reason him talking in third person just really really works, but I get annoyed when he switches to first person.

Arya: I was always a girl.
Jaqen: And I was always aware.

Shouldn't that have been "And a man was always aware"? Bleh, he kept switching between first and third person and it was driving me nuts.


What the hell is it with Rickon and walnuts, anyway?

I think it's just to show that he's got pent-up aggression but because he's a kid he can't express it very well. They haven't really done anything with Shaggy Dog yet in the tv show but I remember thinking in the books that you got more about Rickon's personality and emotions from Shaggy Dog than you actually got from Rickon himself.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on May 24, 2012, 08:23:26 AM
For some reason, I was having trouble streaming the GoT torrents to my X-box.  So I broke down and paid for HBO for a month.  HBO GO is pretty sweet, though.  I think I may just pay for it in the Summer during the off-season lull to catch up on the HBO shows I've missed.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Variety of Cells on May 24, 2012, 10:22:02 AM
HBO GO is quite nice.  I enjoy having parents who don't take advantage of having access to it, so I do.  But as a friend of mine always says, I would happily pay for stand alone HBO GO service.  Even if it was a monthly fee.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on May 28, 2012, 05:22:44 PM
I find myself rooting for so many characters with so many conflicting goals.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gbeenie on May 29, 2012, 01:24:31 AM
I felt so sorry for Sansa. Being stuck in a tiny room with an increasingly-liquored-up Cersei was possibly more traumatic than seeing her father get beheaded.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 29, 2012, 06:24:07 AM
We are finally all caught up. I agree with you, gbeenie. And I thought my mother-in-law was bad -- Cersei's just the absolute worst.

I am also bummed out that they didn't use Tyrion's chain during the Battle of Blackwater. I am finding myself increasingly disappointed with the stuff they're adding and taking out. I understand that they couldn't use everything in the books because they're sprawling and it would be crazy, but there are a lot of things I think are pointless, like the whole Arya/Tywin thing. Events I was looking forward to seeing won't happen because of the changes they're making.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on May 29, 2012, 08:22:18 AM
There's finally a payoff for gaying up Renly and Loras.  His joining Tywin actually makes sense.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 29, 2012, 08:28:18 AM
I had no idea that was Loras at the time. I totally thought it was Lancel all this time until someone at work just said something about "Renly's guy joining the old Lannister guy".
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 29, 2012, 05:07:35 PM
HBO released a list of new characters coming to Season 3 here (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/29/game-of-throne-season-3-cast/).

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 29, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
HBO released a list of new characters coming to Season 3 here (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/29/game-of-throne-season-3-cast/).

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They listed Beric, but he was actually already in season 1 briefly. Ned charged him with finding the Mountain, I believe.

I think I'm most looking forward to the Queen of Thorns.  I don't give a shit about the Reeds at all; Osha could easily take their place in the story without it losing a beat.

Edmure is Cat's brother, is that right? I forget.

You're right, Beric Dondarrion was charged by Ned with finding the Mountain. I'd forgotten about that.

You're also right about the Reeds, although I'm hoping they replace Osha. She's got one expression and it's annoying.

And yes, Edmure Tully is Cat's brother.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on May 29, 2012, 06:39:52 PM
For some reason I thought HBO gave them more episodes this season.  I really wasn't expecting it to end so soon. 

Also the one playing Osha is closer to how I pictured Ygritte.  The Ygritte they have is too fancy and feminine. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 29, 2012, 06:44:02 PM
All I can say is the Reeds must be great people.

You always trusts Reeds.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 29, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
You know, Dany was always my favorite in the books, but the tv show has tarnished a lot of that luster for me. I'm not sure where they're going with the changes they've made to her storyline -- are they trying to make her more like Viserys, the beggar king? Basically all she's doing is stomping around yelling, I WANT SHIPS WHO TOOK MY DRAGONS. And I know she did that in the books, but I don't remember it being so overt. I don't remember thinking, JFC JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP like I kind of do with the tv show.

So I'm not necessarily coming around to your way of thinking, Im, but I am beginning to understand your disdain a little better.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: imapotato on May 30, 2012, 11:52:17 AM
As someone who never read the books, I am enjoying this show immensly...so much so that I will not read the books until it is finished.

I think too many people who read the books get disappointed over a favorite scene or dialogue that it ruins it for them, or they simply watch the show to complain. I've done it and rather be blissfully ignorant with this show

BTW, last episode Blackwater had the feel of a movie...amazing
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 30, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
Actually, I should amend my last post a little. In the books Dany's dragons were never stolen. She used her possession of them and her imperious attitude to get her ships, so to me, in the books, she had less of that whiny-ness about her. Now that she doesn't have them in the tv show, she's lost a lot of her leverage and it just takes away a lot of that badass-ness that she had. Her whole shtick in the books is that she's got the smarts of her brother Rhaegar and the drive of her brother Viserys, and the two together make her a real contender for the Iron Throne. In the tv show she's less in control of her destiny and more a victim, and it kind of diminishes her in my eyes.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 30, 2012, 12:56:31 PM
I think what bothers me most about Dany is her self-assurance that she has a legitimate claim to the throne and that Westeros wants her and the Targaryens back.  I keep thinking, "what the fuck gives -you- the right?"

But don't they ALL kind of think that way? Every single one of them, even fucking Renly, was like, I am totes legit and the people will rejoice when I take the throne. I think Robb is the only one who is like fuck the Iron Throne, you shitheads stay down there and leave us alone in the North.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bastard Poetry on May 30, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
I think the inclusion of Olenna Redwyne and Tormund Giantsbane in Season 3 is the best possible news. Viewers need to know that Tyrion isn't the only witty smart-ass in the series!

Also, I made a poster to express my excitement over how great Blackwater turned out:

http://i47.tinypic.com/izrz7s.jpg

Neil Marshall is one of those rare geniuses who can turn a budget that is 1/1000th the size of a LotR budget, and still make it look just as good.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on May 31, 2012, 07:48:14 AM

Neil Marshall is one of those rare geniuses who can turn a budget that is 1/1000th the size of a LotR budget, and still make it look just as good.

Slow down. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 31, 2012, 08:46:04 PM
I mean even the fucking Greyjoys, trolling everyone though they might be, are still after the throne because of their goddamned "iron price" and they think that makes them legit contenders, too.

I dunno. I see the problems with Dany the character and her story more clearly in the tv show than I do in the book. She is kind of a brat who fucks up a lot of shit, and she couches her lust for the throne in more people-friendly and moralistic goals which, after a while, just seem like a bunch of bullshit. I don't disagree with you about that. I just think she has a lot of badass moments, some of which gave me goosebumps or nearly brought me to tears. I mean, in both the tv show and the book, that scene where she emerges unburnt from the fire with her three dragons, and Jorah falls to his knees and says, "Blood of my blood", that scene still is amazing to me. She continues to do some pretty epic things (although we haven't seen much of it this season in the tv show). I am more willing to forgive her temperamental moments because of scenes such as those.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 31, 2012, 08:57:30 PM
I found her story in the latest book the be the best and most compelling she's been, really.  Though that's possibly because she's surrounded herself with awesome people like Strong Belwas and "Arstan."

Speaking of that, didn't we see Belwas in one of the promos for the season? So I guess he'll show up on Sunday?

I agree, she was pretty compelling in the last book, although the way it ended... eeeeeeee.

By the way, I don't consider the fact that we're saying she's still alive in the fifth book to be a spoiler, because it seems pretty clear to me that they're changing things around for the tv show. What might be true in the books hasn't been necessarily true for tv. Dany might drop dead in next week's episode.

Anyway, I think I totally derped on Strong Belwas, after getting all excited about seeing him. The guy I thought was Strong Belwas in the trailer I think has turned out to be the leader of the 13, the spice trader who denied Dany his ships (did they even give him a name?). I just saw him at the front of a pack of men advancing in what was clearly Qarth or Aastapor or Mereen or whatever one of those cities are, and he was fat and there was an older looking guy behind him, so I just assumed he was Strong Belwas with Arstan. My bad. I'm assuming we'll see those two in season 3.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 01, 2012, 05:40:48 AM
I think what bothers me most about Dany is her self-assurance that she has a legitimate claim to the throne and that Westeros wants her and the Targaryens back.  I keep thinking, "what the fuck gives -you- the right?"

Also (and I'm sorry if I'm beating a dead horse) but Dany thinks she has the right to rule Westeros probably more than anyone else in the story because she has been told all of her life by Viserys that the people of Westeros are on pins and needles to return to a Targaryen rule. He said at least a few times that the people will rejoice when he comes back (and with a Dothraki army at his back, cripes, how delusional was he). For all she knows they will all completely lose their shit when she shows up, because that's what she's heard from a little girl on up.

I think that's in keeping with her philanthropic mindset ("I have to get back there for the good of the people" or "My people need me") and also in keeping with how shocked she was when Jorah told her that the people don't give a fuck who sits on the Iron Throne, they just care about keeping a roof over their heads and food on the table.

Okay, I'm sorry, I started off agreeing with you and now I'm like BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND DANY so I'll just shut up. I'm actually kind of working this out for myself as much as talking to anyone else.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 01, 2012, 07:38:49 AM
I guess above everything else I think Westeros is better off without the Targaryens.  They're weird, incestuous foreign interlopers, whose primary contribution after uniting the kingdoms was providing a complete crapshoot every time a new king takes the throne--flip a coin! Good king, or insane, sadistic tyrant?

Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. And Dany sure is a Targaryen. Her showing up with dragons can't possibly be any good for the seven kingdoms.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 01, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
I want to reply to this but I am tired and my post will likely be incoherent, so I will reply tomorrow.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gbeenie on June 02, 2012, 09:00:38 PM
You know, Dany was always my favorite in the books, but the tv show has tarnished a lot of that luster for me. I'm not sure where they're going with the changes they've made to her storyline -- are they trying to make her more like Viserys, the beggar king? Basically all she's doing is stomping around yelling, I WANT SHIPS WHO TOOK MY DRAGONS. And I know she did that in the books, but I don't remember it being so overt. I don't remember thinking, JFC JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP like I kind of do with the tv show.

I'm just bummed that her narrative seems to be stuck in neutral. If the show weren't so impossibly excellent, it probably wouldn't bother me.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on June 03, 2012, 05:24:41 AM
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/rapo0h-RDnk

and

(http://calmingmanatee.com/img/manatee28.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 04, 2012, 06:29:34 AM
I wonder why Momoa was even there. 

Maybe he was in a Dany flashback.

Maybe. I wonder if, after Conan tanked, he's just kind of hanging around on other people's couches (metaphorically speaking).

Well, I guess that question has been answered.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: a pretty girl is like on June 04, 2012, 10:37:48 AM
The most frustrating thing about this episode (and really the entire season) is how underused Dany has been.  We didn't need ten episodes for her to learn what she learned.  That could have been done fairly quickly and left room for even more development. 

Line of the night: These are questions for wise men with skinny arms. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: imapotato on June 05, 2012, 04:51:03 PM
I mean even the fucking Greyjoys, trolling everyone though they might be, are still after the throne because of their goddamned "iron price" and they think that makes them legit contenders, too.

I dunno. I see the problems with Dany the character and her story more clearly in the tv show than I do in the book. She is kind of a brat who fucks up a lot of shit, and she couches her lust for the throne in more people-friendly and moralistic goals which, after a while, just seem like a bunch of bullshit. I don't disagree with you about that. I just think she has a lot of badass moments, some of which gave me goosebumps or nearly brought me to tears. I mean, in both the tv show and the book, that scene where she emerges unburnt from the fire with her three dragons, and Jorah falls to his knees and says, "Blood of my blood", that scene still is amazing to me. She continues to do some pretty epic things (although we haven't seen much of it this season in the tv show). I am more willing to forgive her temperamental moments because of scenes such as those.

I agree and I know one thing after this show

If you are honest,honorable and all around good person

You will die

I am running over school children tomorrow
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 05, 2012, 06:03:48 PM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on June 05, 2012, 10:04:53 PM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".

Yeah, even ol' honorable Ned was a two-timer.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 06, 2012, 04:46:45 AM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".

Yeah, even ol' honorable Ned was a two-timer.

Well, maybe. I've been seeing a bunch of theories being floated out there regarding Jon Snow's dubious parentage.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on June 06, 2012, 10:55:29 AM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".

Yeah, even ol' honorable Ned was a two-timer.

Well, maybe. I've been seeing a bunch of theories being floated out there regarding Jon Snow's dubious parentage.

Interesting. The whole bastard thing has always seemed a little out of character for Ned.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 06, 2012, 10:57:44 AM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".

Yeah, even ol' honorable Ned was a two-timer.

Well, maybe. I've been seeing a bunch of theories being floated out there regarding Jon Snow's dubious parentage.

Interesting. The whole bastard thing has always seemed a little out of character for Ned.

Plus the fact that before he and Jon parted ways Ned was all, "Remind me when this is over to tell you about your mom". Just the fact that Jon never learned (and we, the readers, haven't yet learned) is because it's all leading up to some big reveal.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 06, 2012, 02:47:18 PM
Thanks to Imrahil, I've been reading the AV Club's reviews and comments section for Game of Thrones. Someone made this comment, which cracked me right the hell up.

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I love how dickishly Joffrey wears his crown. It's the Westeros equivalent of a sideways Ed Hardy hat.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 06, 2012, 06:13:00 PM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".

Yeah, even ol' honorable Ned was a two-timer.

I don't believe this for a second, but I won't ruin it for you.

There's been nothing concrete said in any of the books, but speculation flies fast and furious. One of the more plausible and interesting theories I heard...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There is a rundown here (http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/Who_are_Jon_Snows_parents/) of possible scenarios and the likelihood of individuals as Jon's parents.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 06, 2012, 06:46:57 PM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".

Yeah, even ol' honorable Ned was a two-timer.

I don't believe this for a second, but I won't ruin it for you.

There's been nothing concrete said in any of the books, but speculation flies fast and furious. One of the more plausible and interesting theories I heard...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There is a rundown here (http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/Who_are_Jon_Snows_parents/) of possible scenarios and the likelihood of individuals as Jon's parents.

I think it's
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

That seems to be the general consensus and the one that makes the most sense to me because...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 06, 2012, 07:20:21 PM
Yeah, you've read the books far more recently than I, so I defer to you. I think it's probably just wishful thinking on my part.

Funny you say that, I was just thinking today how much I've forgotten from the books and wondering if I should do another read-through in between tv show seasons to pick up on anything I might have missed in the first go-round.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 06, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
I think I'm a lot better at picking up things now.  I didn't pick up that Renly and Loras were gay in the books and had to have it pointed out to me.  But on the most recent one, I definitely got that
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and that
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, and from comments I've seen online a lot of people missed that.  I guess that's what 10 years does.

Yeah, I think I knew about the first one. I can't remember if I put two and two together about the second one.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on June 06, 2012, 08:22:33 PM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".

Yeah, even ol' honorable Ned was a two-timer.

I don't believe this for a second, but I won't ruin it for you.

There's been nothing concrete said in any of the books, but speculation flies fast and furious. One of the more plausible and interesting theories I heard...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There is a rundown here (http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/Who_are_Jon_Snows_parents/) of possible scenarios and the likelihood of individuals as Jon's parents.

I think it's
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

That seems to be the general consensus and the one that makes the most sense to me because...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Raefire on June 06, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
http://store.hbo.com/game-of-thrones-life-size-replica-iron-throne/detail.php?p=373634

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on June 06, 2012, 08:58:40 PM
Have they ever even mentioned that tourney with the Queen of Love and Beauty? They kind of need to handle that, it seems like.

Considering there's still no resolution on this issue in the books, they have plenty of time to bring it up.  Maybe
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could tell Dany about it sometime in the next few seasons.  I kind of expect a huge exposition dump from him when he shows up on the show.

PS: I want that fucking throne SO BAD.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 07, 2012, 06:43:53 AM
Pretty much, except I'm not sure if any of these people are especially "good".

Yeah, even ol' honorable Ned was a two-timer.

I don't believe this for a second, but I won't ruin it for you.

There's been nothing concrete said in any of the books, but speculation flies fast and furious. One of the more plausible and interesting theories I heard...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There is a rundown here (http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/Who_are_Jon_Snows_parents/) of possible scenarios and the likelihood of individuals as Jon's parents.

I think it's
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

That seems to be the general consensus and the one that makes the most sense to me because...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Since we started this conversation I did a little reading up on some of the A Song of Fire and Ice forums I frequent, and all evidence points to...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bastard Poetry on June 07, 2012, 11:32:30 PM
Regarding the R+L=J theory:
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 08, 2012, 05:30:42 AM
Goddamn. I need to read the books again.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on June 08, 2012, 12:52:50 PM
http://www.collegehumor.com/article/6780269/game-of-thrones-house-sigils-for-other-tv-families (http://www.collegehumor.com/article/6780269/game-of-thrones-house-sigils-for-other-tv-families)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: imapotato on June 11, 2012, 01:40:34 PM


Plus the fact that before he and Jon parted ways Ned was all, "Remind me when this is over to tell you about your mom". Just the fact that Jon never learned (and we, the readers, haven't yet learned) is because it's all leading up to some big reveal.

and he never calls Jon son and from what I gather there are many clues in the book that say something is amiss
 (although I try and ignore those posts as I have no idea what will happen from episode to episode)
I am all for the theory that Eddard Stark was a true and honorable man. His son likewise and his wife...plus his brother and father were and his gurad who was sloppily beheaded

If they are not dead already, i fear the others will die as well
 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gavind on June 11, 2012, 04:53:14 PM
When do these guys fight? (https://imagicon.info/cat/test/vbulletin-smile.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 12, 2012, 01:51:22 PM
Just finished the second season (at work -- hurrah for the little guy) and though I'll have more detailed thoughts when I get in front of a proper keyboard, I wanted to mention that I really loved the second season.

Some really great pair of tits this year, too!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 13, 2012, 06:15:35 AM
Okay, so thoughts.

Jon and Danearys (however you spell it) basically did nothing throughout the much of the season, but still had nice character moments towards the end.  Danearys is still completely batty about her belief that Westeros will bow down to her if she were to arrive there, but from reading the books, we all know she's still got some way to go in learning about herself and her family's legacy.  Jon should've boinked the hot redhead when he had the chance.

Jamie disappeared for most of the season too, but the last few episodes - especially the scene with his cousin in the jail - were great for the character and the actor.  Brienne is perfectly cast, and I'm looking forward to their interactions more when the third season arrives (way too far away).

Sansa has gotten really, really tall.

Tyrion continues to be the highlight of the show and is providing both the wit and the unexpected heart that lies beneath it.  His relationships with Bron, Shay and Varys give Dinklage a lot to do, and he's awesome at it.

I loved the scenes with Arya and Tywin.  They may not have met in the books, but IIRC, Arya doesn't actually do a whole lot as the serving girl, and their scenes together give both her and Tywin depth.  I think it's important to for the audience to get to know Tywin and with Arya, who he can dismiss as an amusing little nothing, we see why the Lannister children are the way they are.

Theon can go suck a dick.  I hated him in the books and they've done a good job of making me hate him in the show too.  All his moralising about being taken away from home as a child can't disguise the fact that he betrayed the people who loved him the most.  I admit to laughing at the end of his rallying speech in Winterfell. 

The Siege of King's Landing episode was great.  I'd been a little concerned about the lack of scope in the series, maybe a little unreasonably due to the lack of budget, but they pulled out the stops for that episode.  The Hound and Bron scene was great, Tyrion was awesome ("Oh shit.") and it looked like a proper battle, unlike some of the ones that are explained away in a sentence.

At the moment, the North of the Wall stuff and Danearys storyline feel more like distractions, but I'm confident that eventually they'll fit everything together.  The criminal lack of Danearys boobs in this season was sorely felt though.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 13, 2012, 07:05:25 AM
The criminal lack of Danearys boobs in this season was sorely felt though.


I hear Emilia Clarke has a no nudity clause in her contract for Season 3, so you'll just have to rewatch Season 1 a few times to get your fix.

I think I am the only person here who feels for Theon. I know he's a shit and he sucks for what he did, but...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also I think I am the only person in the world who didn't like the Arya/Tywin scenes.

Sansa REALLY grew up between seasons. She looked like a kid before, now she's looking like a super model. That is just one gorgeous girl.

Brienne is fantastic! She and Jaime are possibly my favorite non-sexual OTP (other than Tyrion/Bronn). She's been perfectly cast and is perfectly played.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 13, 2012, 07:13:40 AM
I don't feel sorry for Theon whatsoever.  He was an arrogant prick when he lived with his brothers, treated those who were less fortunate like shit, and then whined when things didn't go the way he wanted them to.  Jon had a similar upbringing, but has a sense of honour that Theon never had.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 13, 2012, 09:37:21 AM
I don't know if this has been brought up - I was skipping the thread in case of spoilers - but did everyone know that the girl who's playing Shay on the show used to be a porn actress? A German porn actress! The things she does on GoT must seem down right tame in comparison.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 13, 2012, 10:08:05 AM

Brienne is fantastic! She and Jaime are possibly my favorite non-sexual OTP (other than Tyrion/Bronn). She's been perfectly cast and is perfectly played.

I also really like Brienne, but what is OTP?

One True Pairing. It's an RP/fanfic term for two characters you really want to see together. It carries slightly more weight than saying you're "shipping" a couple, which is another way of saying you want to see a couple in a relationship. OTP signifies that there can never be anyone else so well suited for that one person than the other.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 13, 2012, 05:16:18 PM

Jamie - especially the scene with his cousin in the jail - great for the character and the actor.


 I agree with everything you said excepting this. The jail scene was WAY out of character, and just as you are starting to understand(not feel sorry for, but understand) Jaime, they reduce his character back to his episode one self and have him needlessly kill Cleos in cold blood and give him lines that seem to purposely wash away any feelings of pity or empathy for him you may have gained in the past two seasons. I think this was a big step in the wrong direction,
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I think that's the entire point of the scene.  You emphasize his utter lack of morality and then pair him with Brienne, perhaps the most doggedly honest and moral people in the entire series of books. And really, Jamie hadn't done something totally shitty all season - he hadn't met his quota.

I definitely think that SPOILER will happen, because it's one of the turning points for the guy, although I too thought it would happen this season. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 13, 2012, 05:29:21 PM
I think we saw it.  The whacking great scar down the middle of his face.  Maybe blind in one eye?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 13, 2012, 05:37:48 PM
Whoops.  Sorry!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 13, 2012, 05:40:49 PM
Whoops.  Sorry!

Nono, it's ok. I actually always read spoilers and stuff anyway (and look on the last page of books, etc.).

YOU ARE THE WORST.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 14, 2012, 04:18:36 PM
Does that offend you or something?
No, no, just curiosity. Did it come off that way? I think if I read the endings first I would have a hard time getting through the books, but obviously it doesn't work that way for you. I was just comparing my viewing/reading habits to yours(what I know of them from this thread).

 "Perhaps Imrahil wants to know if the ending is worth it before starting, or perhaps the ending is what compels Imrahil to find out the means? Maybe Imrahil is more about the journey than the destination?"

I wasn't sure--often when someone says "how's that working out for you?" it's done in a snide way, so I didn't know.

Mostly I have hunches or suspicions, and it bothers me if I can't have them sorted out then and there.  I suppose it comes down to hating suspense. Even when I'm watching a movie at home, I'll look up the ending if it's too stressful.

If I'm less invested in a story--say, just an average TV show or something--I usually don't bother, but I usually don't pay that close attention either.  In Game of Thrones, I flipped to the back of the book several times to see if something had "really happened" or not. 

I confess that in the last book, knowing that
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
made me want to quit halfway through. In fact, I did sell my book and started listening to it on audio instead because I couldn't be bothered to continue reading it.

I have the exact same reaction when it comes to suspense in tv shows and movies. I hate it, really, but maybe for different reasons. I want to know what happens before I become too emotionally attached or invested in a character or a plot, so I often read up on a show or movie on the internet before deciding whether or not I want to see it. If I start something I pretty much read all of the spoilers. (This, strangely, is not the case in books. I love suspense and a twist of the tale there.)

Another reason I seek out the ending before I watch a show is because I am not very good at picking up hints and subtext and subtle cues. All of that flies right over my head. I find the ending much more enjoyable and satisfying if I know what's going to happen and I can pick up the cues along the way. It's why most of the time I know who's going to be voted off of Survivor before we watch it on tivo.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on June 14, 2012, 06:41:35 PM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on June 14, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5fepbXSnf1qbnxo4o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Starman! on June 16, 2012, 11:18:03 AM
I've never watched Game of Thrones (though I'm interested in watching it) but I'm seriously thinking a used copy just for the Bush head.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 18, 2012, 02:42:31 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5r0khQk9p1qaa5upo1_500.png)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on June 18, 2012, 03:12:33 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5r0khQk9p1qaa5upo1_500.png)

They should totally put that before the show.

(http://i.imgur.com/hCsif.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 18, 2012, 04:39:57 PM
You are a genius of photoshop.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 18, 2012, 05:39:22 PM
Started season 2 after finsihing book 2.  About halfway through. 

Liked seeing Roy Dotrice as the head of the Pyromance guild.  I listened to the audiobooks, which are narrated entirely by Dotrice and he is fantastic.

Like many of the new cast members.  Brienne and Stannis are really well cast.  Jaqen is suitably baddass.  Do not care much for Asha's casting (or I guess Yara since people are apparently stupid enough to confuse her with Osha).  Haven't gotten into book 3 that far yet, but them apparently axing the two Reeds and making Osha more of Bran's mystical council is very odd.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 18, 2012, 06:15:55 PM
I heard he was originally cast to play  Pycell, but got sick or something and could not do it.  Good to see him none the less.  Lucky of GRRM to have a friend with such a great voice.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 18, 2012, 06:40:06 PM
I heard he was originally cast to play  Pycell, but got sick or something and could not do it.  Good to see him none the less.  Lucky of GRRM to have a friend with such a great voice.

I just wish he were more consistent with his accents. He's kind of all over the place for guys who are supposed to be from the same region.

I can forgive him given the number of characters.  I think by far my favorite voices of his are Jaqen and Tyrion (Honestly kind of wish he has used his Tyrion in the scene with Tyrion).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 18, 2012, 06:40:36 PM
I watch the show and I have zero ideas who those people are......
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 18, 2012, 06:43:31 PM
I watch the show and I have zero ideas who those people are......

Tyrion is the dwarf, Jaqen is the assassin that Arya meets.  The Pyromancer we're mentioning isn't in the show much, but is the head of the guild making the Wildfyre for the Lannisters in King's Landing.  He's played by Roy Dotrice, who narates the audiobooks for the Game of Thrones series.

The Reeds I mentioned earlier are two characters from the books that apparently won't be in the TV series.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 18, 2012, 08:28:24 PM
Started season 2 after finsihing book 2.  About halfway through. 

Liked seeing Roy Dotrice as the head of the Pyromance guild.  I listened to the audiobooks, which are narrated entirely by Dotrice and he is fantastic.

Like many of the new cast members.  Brienne and Stannis are really well cast.  Jaqen is suitably baddass.  Do not care much for Asha's casting (or I guess Yara since people are apparently stupid enough to confuse her with Osha).  Haven't gotten into book 3 that far yet, but them apparently axing the two Reeds and making Osha more of Bran's mystical council is very odd.

Actually, as far as the Reeds go, they will be appearing in Season 3 as there has been a casting call for them. Also for Stannis' wife and daughter (Shireen's the daughter's name, can't remember the wife off the top of my head; no word on Patchface). I kind of think the Reeds are important to a plot that has yet to be revealed in the books so I'm glad to see them cast.

I was disappointed with the casting of Asha/Yara. I think she's too plain for the part -- not that I'm expecting a ravishing beauty but I am getting tired of the weird stare the actress has.

Brienne is wonderfully cast. Her scenes with Jaime are fantastic. Those two actors can convey so much to each other with just a look, which is exactly how I pictured Jaime and Brienne interacting.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on June 19, 2012, 05:52:54 AM
I don't mind her.  Unless it's a big plot point which I've either forgotten or not read, I don't think her beauty matters a whole bunch.  She's tough, both physically and mentally, and it demonstrates how she had to compensate for her father for Theon's absence.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 19, 2012, 12:19:01 PM
Started season 2 after finsihing book 2.  About halfway through. 

Liked seeing Roy Dotrice as the head of the Pyromance guild.  I listened to the audiobooks, which are narrated entirely by Dotrice and he is fantastic.

Like many of the new cast members.  Brienne and Stannis are really well cast.  Jaqen is suitably baddass.  Do not care much for Asha's casting (or I guess Yara since people are apparently stupid enough to confuse her with Osha).  Haven't gotten into book 3 that far yet, but them apparently axing the two Reeds and making Osha more of Bran's mystical council is very odd.

Actually, as far as the Reeds go, they will be appearing in Season 3 as there has been a casting call for them. Also for Stannis' wife and daughter (Shireen's the daughter's name, can't remember the wife off the top of my head; no word on Patchface). I kind of think the Reeds are important to a plot that has yet to be revealed in the books so I'm glad to see them cast.

I was disappointed with the casting of Asha/Yara. I think she's too plain for the part -- not that I'm expecting a ravishing beauty but I am getting tired of the weird stare the actress has.

Brienne is wonderfully cast. Her scenes with Jaime are fantastic. Those two actors can convey so much to each other with just a look, which is exactly how I pictured Jaime and Brienne interacting.

Well, as we know, the "Reeds" are the most important people in the world.

Signed, Bob Reed
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 29, 2012, 02:04:38 PM
Lord Tywin is going undercover in season 3 to make sure Tyrion is finished with his whoring.

(http://i.minus.com/iQJV4JHevjMBF.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 07, 2012, 11:48:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/17W4QMNwm-c?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

"Cut them in half with the glowy end."
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Post by: Bob on July 07, 2012, 12:03:44 PM
And that looks better and it faaaaar better acted than any of the last three Star Wars movies.......... thank you HBO
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on July 11, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
Saw this artwork on tumblr today. I'm spoilering it, partly for size but also because there are some unresolved plot points and speculation in here if you know what you're looking for.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: mrbasehart on July 11, 2012, 05:02:51 PM
I can't tell one character from another in that whole montage. They all have the exact same facial features.

Scrolling down, I knew you'd hate it.  :)

(although I sorta agree.  It's not a bad drawing, but that's the drawback with anime)
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Post by: wurwolf on July 11, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
I wasn't so much looking at the facial features to tell them apart but the things they had that identified them (Davos' neck pouch, or Arya's Needle, or Melisandre's red hair). I liked those distinguishing characteristics. I also liked the way seemingly unrelated characters were put together and the way future events were interpreted. I didn't see Viserys and his golden crown, though, I'm disappointed in that.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on July 11, 2012, 08:06:28 PM
I wasn't so much looking at the facial features to tell them apart but the things they had that identified them (Davos' neck pouch, or Arya's Needle, or Melisandre's red hair). I liked those distinguishing characteristics. I also liked the way seemingly unrelated characters were put together and the way future events were interpreted. I didn't see Viserys and his golden crown, though, I'm disappointed in that.

Fair enough. Those are what I'd call 'attributes,' and yeah, they're what you'd use to distinguish on highly stylized art.

Mostly I just fucking hate japanese anime-style art, and I guess that's where I was on that.

Yeah, I totally understand that feeling. I think I would have liked it more if it had been done in another artistic style, but I thought the idea behind it was a good one. I liked the concept, if not necessarily the execution. Still cool to see the whole thing in one big long panel, rather than chopped up like it was on tumblr.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 13, 2012, 03:23:38 PM
New cast members!

http://www.youtube.com/v/rpSDSgChsaI?version=3&amp;hl=en_US

I totally thought that was the waitress from Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, but it's not. And more precocious kids, perhaps? I don't know who any of these characters are.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on July 13, 2012, 05:59:10 PM
The guy they have playing Thoros is dead on. Holy cow. Beric Dondarrion is pretty good, too.

But no Ramsay Bolton! UGH.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on July 13, 2012, 10:37:05 PM
The guy they have playing Thoros is dead on. Holy cow. Beric Dondarrion is pretty good, too.

But no Ramsay Bolton! UGH.

I thought the same thing.  Thoros is absolutely perfect.  They may try to keep Ramsay's casting secret, or they may announce it down the line.  He'll definitely be on the show at some point, as Roose has mentioned him numerous times and I remember hearing they were auditioning for him before season 2 ended.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 13, 2012, 11:03:09 PM
Bolton and Mance will probably be later announcement to keep hype going. 

Link the look of them though.  Reeds look good, Bryndon looks perfect.
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Post by: wurwolf on July 14, 2012, 07:55:55 AM
Yeah, I think it's all good casting. All of the actors look as I pictured the characters, and they're not even in make-up and costume yet. I think Diana Riggs might have been a little bit of stunt casting, but I'm sure she'll do well in the role. The Queen of Thorns role is a delicious plum to have landed in her lap, I've no doubt she's excited about it.

I'm interested to see how they do the greyscale on Shireen's face, whether it will be subtle or more over the top. I don't want to see them turn her into a lizard.

I keep forgetting they haven't announced Mance Rayder's casting yet, I guess because he was never a fascinating character to me. Bolton's bastard, though, I am very interested to see him in action, so I've kind of been waiting on pins and needles to see who is cast for that role.
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Post by: mrbasehart on July 14, 2012, 09:57:30 AM
Weird to see Paul Kaye as a jobbing actor - he was almost a star about a decade ago. 

It's probably quite bad that even though I've read all but the latest book, I barely remember who's who.
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Post by: wurwolf on July 14, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
I knew who all of the characters were except Orell. Can't place him.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 14, 2012, 04:58:15 PM
I knew who all of the characters were except Orell. Can't place him.

People are a bit confused about this. In the books, Orell was one of the wildlings that Jon and Halfhand killed when they first met Ygritt.  He was the one who could control the eagle, which later was passed to another skinchanger.  No clue how he's going to be written into the show.
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Post by: wurwolf on July 14, 2012, 05:18:33 PM
Ohhhh... I remember him now. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by: wurwolf on July 16, 2012, 07:03:00 AM
Holy shit, Diana Rigg? That's a huge fucking coup for this show.

A woman who is famous for being in an English tv show from fifty years ago? How is that a huge fucking coup for the show?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on July 16, 2012, 08:22:23 AM
Holy shit, Diana Rigg? That's a huge fucking coup for this show.

A woman who is famous for being in an English tv show from fifty years ago? How is that a huge fucking coup for the show?

Well, she has a knighthood for acting. She's done tons of shit on the stage, and is generally regarded as a pillar of the older acting generation in Britain.  Find me one actor besides Sean Bean so far who has that kind of clout in the series.

Well, I guess that is a coup, then. I never heard of her until someone mentioned The Avengers.
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Post by: Tripe on July 16, 2012, 08:40:03 AM
Yeah she's a fantastic actress, she's also good in the episode of Extras with Daniel Radcliff.
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Post by: mrbasehart on July 16, 2012, 10:01:26 AM
She had her own brief "Old Lady Detective Show" a few years back too. 

She was also super-hot in the 60s.
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Post by: Kete on July 18, 2012, 09:40:24 AM
Wow, Thomas Sangster is 22.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 18, 2012, 02:52:37 PM
Wow, Thomas Sangster is 22.
Other than Bran and Arya they've ether made the characters older for the show, or gotten ~20 year olds who look like kids.  Guy who plays Jeoffey is 20.
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Post by: Kete on July 18, 2012, 03:10:51 PM
Guy who plays Jeoffey is 20.

!!
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 18, 2012, 05:13:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/74ixX.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 18, 2012, 07:28:26 PM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1689870/game-of-thrones-season-three-george-rr-martin.jhtml

GRRM talks about season 3.  It will split the ASOS book, and he also mentions apprehension about "R.W." being on screen.  That would make for a great season finale I think.

BTW, if you have not read ASOS, do NOT look up what R.W. is, you don't want to be spoiled.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 18, 2012, 08:21:39 PM
I thought they said 4 and 5 would be multiple seasons, just that they would overlap events as the two books cover a very similar timeline, just from different points of view.  So say, season 5 will have parts from AFFC, and ADWD.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on July 19, 2012, 08:47:24 AM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1689870/game-of-thrones-season-three-george-rr-martin.jhtml

GRRM talks about season 3.  It will split the ASOS book, and he also mentions apprehension about "R.W." being on screen.  That would make for a great season finale I think.

BTW, if you have not read ASOS, do NOT look up what R.W. is, you don't want to be spoiled.

Robin Williams?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on July 19, 2012, 09:00:08 AM
Rainn Wilson.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on July 19, 2012, 09:02:25 AM
Ron Weasley.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on July 19, 2012, 09:03:27 AM
Rio Wraps
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Post by: Kete on July 19, 2012, 09:11:08 AM
Ring Wraith
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on July 19, 2012, 09:12:55 AM
Nah that would get you a cease and desist.

I'm going with Rio Wraps and I think mall food court franchises aren't featured in fantasy novels half as much as they should be.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on July 19, 2012, 03:43:39 PM
I thought they got kinda snubbed in the writing category, but they only nominate a total of five single episodes from all shows combined, and Mad Men got three of those. Still, an impressive showing.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on July 27, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
More speculation that this fellow will be playing Ramsay Snow:

(http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Iwan-Rheon-228x300.jpg)

http://winteriscoming.net/2012/07/iwan-rheon-cast-in-game-of-thrones/

If this is true and he is Ramsay Snow, then it means that

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Post by: wurwolf on July 27, 2012, 11:28:44 AM
Don't forget the
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I'd like to forget that.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on August 01, 2012, 02:10:03 PM
This picture cracked me up: Kit Harrington (Jon Snow) wearing a Richard Madden (Robb Stark) shirt.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m83h1myjBN1qis07wo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on August 17, 2012, 08:21:10 AM
I do not get this casting at all. He is way too old to be Mance.

Cirian Hinds has been cast as Mance Rayder. (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/08/17/game-of-thrones-mance-rayder/)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Thrashalla on August 18, 2012, 04:54:12 PM
I do not get this casting at all. He is way too old to be Mance.

Cirian Hinds has been cast as Mance Rayder. (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/08/17/game-of-thrones-mance-rayder/)

It makes perfect sense. In the books, Mance has greying hair. Given the general "age-up" of most of the cast and the EPIC FUCKING AWESOMENESS that is Cirian Hinds...perfect sense. Of course, I'm much MUCH more interested in seeing people who can deliver a good performance in the roles than 100% age/appearance accurate actors...and Rome is my favorite show of all time, so Caesar Beyond the Wall? YES PLEASE!

Imrahil, why should you give a shit about anything that happens in the series at all? It's all fake anyway. But its fun...and the beyond the wall stuff clearly plays a significant role in later events. I'm not even finished with ADWD and it's already becoming quite obvious how important the North is.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on August 20, 2012, 07:12:41 AM
I couldn't disagree more about the casting of Cirian Hinds as Mance Rayder, but whatever.

Daario Naharis and Grey Worm have been cast. Grey Worm is not what I was expecting but I'm interested to see what they do with the character. Daario is pretty much right on the nose.

http://winteriscoming.net/2012/08/daario-naharis-and-grey-worm-cast/


Edit: I guess I didn't realize this in the books, but evidently Daario wasn't white. There is fan disappointment going on right now over the fact that they cast a white guy for the role. I never realized Daario was a person of color.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on August 20, 2012, 08:56:07 AM
Daario is white? I kind of expected someone middle-eastern or something.  And for Grey Worm, a fat guy.  Because of the balls thing.

I guess I should have expected middle-eastern, too, but in reading the books I totally thought he was white.

Also, GRRM has said that he sees Grey Worm as a big guy because he's a trained soldier, not necessarily a body-builder. Stocky, yet solid.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: mrbasehart on August 23, 2012, 05:49:18 PM
So some of the Game of Thrones people have been out doing press, and here's a shot of three cast members who may have never met on set before!

(http://thumbnails56.imagebam.com/20741/fefd6e207403084.jpg)

The ladies look good without their wigs, but I have to say, Jon Snow guy should probably keep his scruffy beard IRL.  He looks a little like Cary Elwes in that pic.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on August 23, 2012, 05:53:25 PM
I love Emilia Clarke. She is just gorgeous, both as Dany and as herself. It's amazing how different she looks, and I don't think it's all the wig or make up. I think she alters her expressions when she's Dany and doesn't look anything like Emilia any more.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on August 27, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
I do not get this casting at all. He is way too old to be Mance.

Cirian Hinds has been cast as Mance Rayder. (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/08/17/game-of-thrones-mance-rayder/)

Yeah, Dubledore's brother...  Did not see that coming. 

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111027081223/harrypotter/images/c/c7/AberforthInfobox.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on September 25, 2012, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: MTV Geek
George R. R. Martin is best known for his A Song of Ice and Fire novels, which spawned the popular HBO series Game of Thrones. He's also an avid comic book reader and collector. Several of Martin's letters to Marvel's famed bullpen found their way into the letter's columns of popular Silver Age series and he even won his first award writing a prose superhero story.  Martin's also known for the lengthy delays between books, with readers waiting up to five years between volumes.

It now appears that Martin wishes to combine his love of comics with his love of delaying his novels.  In an interview with MTV Geek, Martin mentioned that he'd love to write comics for Marvel, as long as certain conditions are met.

Speaking over a feast of freshly boiled lobster with blood red shells, a turkey with golden skin seasoned with the freshest herbs Westeros has to offer, two apple pies cooled by a soft summer's breeze, three flagons of ale, a pitcher of red wine, two loaves of bread, a hearty stew with potatos, corn, beans and bits of cow flank, and a small side salad, Martin said that he'd consider writing Dr. Strange comics for Marvel, provided they didn't "Grant Morrison" him, that is immediately reverse any changes he made to the character as soon as he left.

Martin also suggested that he disliked Strange's current direction of lackey for Luke Cage and Captain Fascist America and would return the character to his roots on the outskirts of the Marvel Universe, fighting the likes of Dormammu and Cthulhu (who Marvel has never actually used in a book).

Of course, writing any comic would cause Martin's work on Winds of Winter, the next book in Martin's ASOIAF series, to be delayed.  If Marvel were to consider Martin's offer, they'd have to grapple with the knowledge that they were aiding and abetting Martin's penchant for delaying his books, possibly drawing him into a Robert Jordan scenario, in which the author passes away before finishing the series.  We humbly suggest that Martin retire into a career of comics writing.  As long as Dr. Strange doesn't cross the rabid pro-Wolverine camp that currently occupies Marvel's highest offices, he'll still be around in fifteen years when ASOIAF is finally complete.

Bad news for the series, but an hilarious article.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Starman! on November 05, 2012, 01:44:36 PM
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/05/game-of-thrones-coldplay/
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on November 05, 2012, 07:43:57 PM
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/05/game-of-thrones-coldplay/

In a related story, former Cheap Trick drummer Bun E. Carlos will appear as a White Walker.

(http://i.imgur.com/gU9aI.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on February 11, 2013, 09:01:33 AM
"Chaos" teaser trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/v/1iTg20x7w2s
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on February 11, 2013, 09:39:51 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on February 15, 2013, 07:05:12 AM
It's a very good deal for an HBO series. We got season 1 that way and watched it all again right before season 2 started (which is probably what we'll do again before season 3 starts).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on February 15, 2013, 08:27:39 AM
The blu-ray of season 2 is currently $35 on Amazon. Pretty good deal for what looks like some good bonus content (12 commentaries?!)

It'll be $29.99 at Target with some bonus extras.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on February 15, 2013, 09:34:04 AM
The blu-ray of season 2 is currently $35 on Amazon. Pretty good deal for what looks like some good bonus content (12 commentaries?!)

It'll be $29.99 at Target with some bonus extras.

Ah, that's why they're doing it. What bonus extras?

A 20-minute feature with George R.R. Martin and 4 behind-the-scenes featurettes. There's also two exclusive artworks at Best Buy (same price as Amazon) if you want that instead, similar to what they had for Season 1 (Stark and Targaryen).

Lannister:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/8vof2o.jpg)

Greyjoy:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/14wt8i.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on February 15, 2013, 09:44:15 AM
Who knows, you could get some money for the slips. I just looked at Best Buy's site and they don't have the Season 1 sets available to buy online, so it could be OOP.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on February 21, 2013, 02:36:07 PM
Game of Thrones Season 2 blu ray is now $29.99 on Amazon, not sure for how long.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on February 22, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/RzI9v_B4sxw?hl=en_US&amp;version=3

DAT DRAGON! BRING IT!!!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on February 23, 2013, 07:05:26 AM
I know Im hates Dany but I love her, and seeing her with her army and then Drogon (probably) flying gave me goosebumps. Out of all of the stories in Game of Thrones, I am most excited for hers. Emilia Clark is just stunningly beautiful.

I am still not on board with Cirian Hinds as Mance Rayder. Way too old and I don't like the way he chews up his lines and spits them out. That said, also looking forward to the stuff that takes place beyond the Wall.

Good to see Beric Dondarrion and Tormund Giantsbane. I love the secondary characters.

Also, did I miss Stannis in that trailer? Or is he taking a powder this season?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on February 24, 2013, 08:24:14 AM
Started watching the season 2 blu rays (with subtitles, thank god). Oh so good. I really do love this show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on February 25, 2013, 11:04:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/RzI9v_B4sxw?hl=en_US&amp;version=3

DAT DRAGON! BRING IT!!!

So I was watching this again. I missed this the first time around, but I noticed that at about the 20 second mark there was a tied and hooded man. EeeeeeeEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.........

Shit, I don't know if I can handle that story line.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on February 25, 2013, 11:16:44 AM
It kind of sounds like Mance says "I'm going to light the biggest fart the north has ever seen," at :30. 

Okay, that made me laugh out loud here at my desk.

I am kind of looking forward to the Ghiscari thing as well, even though normally battle scenes bore me. I do, though, want to see the whole set up for the three cities of Mereen, Yunkai and Astapor because of the similarities to Babylon and the middle east. After the Europey-ness of Westeros, it's very intriguing to visit the lands to the east. And the Unsullied just look badass.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: ShadowDog on February 26, 2013, 12:18:37 AM
What you said about The Wall is probably the truth about every storyline. Each one is probably somebody's most and least favorite part of the show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 01, 2013, 03:52:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DYRHFP5.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 12, 2013, 02:16:09 PM
HBO released the title and synopsis for the first episode of season 3, which will air on March 31. (http://winteriscoming.net/2013/03/hbo-release-confirms-season-3-premiere-title-and-synopsis/) It's not much to go on, but it gives you an idea of the storylines that will be covered in that episode.

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As Blackwater Bay cools, the victors consolidate their power and rebuild King’s Landing. But new challengers for the Iron Throne rise from the most unexpected places. Characters old and new must navigate the demands of family, honor, ambition, love and – above all – survival, as the Westeros civil war rages into autumn.

As season three begins, the Lannisters hold absolute dominion over King’s Landing after repelling Stannis Baratheon’s forces. Yet Robb Stark, King in the North, still controls much of the South as well, and has yet to lose a battle. In the Far North, Mance Rayder has united the wildlings into the largest army Westeros has ever seen. Only the Night’s Watch stands between him and the Seven Kingdoms, but nobody knows what happened to its Lord Commander and the force he led beyond the Wall.

Across the Narrow Sea, Daenerys Targaryen – reunited with her three growing dragons – ventures into Slaver’s Bay in search of ships to take her home and allies to conquer it.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on March 19, 2013, 12:53:58 PM
I have no idea when it will happen, but when the annoying young king gets killed, the next day should be a national holiday.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on March 23, 2013, 12:18:04 AM
Man, this season will be the catalyst for the most spoiler tags this forum has ever seen....

Speaking of:

I applaud this decision:

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over this

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And if i'm not mistaken, does this mean:

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 23, 2013, 07:28:49 AM
Think I'm going to dine on some delicious bread and salt next weekend.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 23, 2013, 07:31:35 PM
And if i'm not mistaken, does this mean:

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Post by: MSTJedi on March 23, 2013, 08:14:18 PM
And if i'm not mistaken, does this mean:

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Post by: MSTJedi on March 24, 2013, 07:46:11 AM
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Wonder if Headey will do her walk in the altogether?

Yeah, all while I was reading A Dance with Dragons I was wondering how they would handle it on TV. HBO or not, there's some seriously messed up stuff in that book.
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Post by: wurwolf on March 28, 2013, 06:53:18 AM
some SPOILERS and hints that
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I was just thinking about that very combo this morning as I was getting ready for work. To me, it's pointless for GRRM to hint at it because it's pretty much a done deal. Between the prophecies and the foreshadowing, not to mention the fans piecing all of this together, it seems obvious that this is the logical conclusion. It's like, Thanks for the hint, George, we already knew that. How about you get to publishing book 6?

I was also thinking this morning what my answers would be to the following questions, if anyone were to ask me:


I would have to answer like this:

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 28, 2013, 01:25:23 PM
Interesting. I'll have a go.

1a) Ned.  I know it's kind of a shocker or whatever, but I think that Ned was warmer and younger in the books; he was honorable, but not a walking corpse the way Sean Bean played him.  I didn't dislike his Ned, I just didn't think it was quite right.  It wasn't a "oh that's so totally right to me."
I also dislike the casting for Jon; he's too doughy and pouty to be a good Jon Snow to me, who should've been a little less emotive and emo.  I also kind of hate the "beyond the wall" storyline though, so maybe that's it.   wurwolf mentioned Renly, and I agree with that (though I think their Loras is fine).

2) Arya is perfectly cast to me. She's feisty but also kind of naive.  I think she's brilliant.  The other perfect cast was Robert. He was the book-Robert come to farting, belching life.  Gotta agree on Varys as well, he's probably my favorite of the King's Landing crew.



3) Tywin.  Maybe it's just that I love Charles Dance so much, but you see in the show how much he actually just really loves and respects wit and intelligence.  If Tyrion hadn't been such an embarrassment to him he'd have been the clear favorite of the Lannisters I think.  I love the added stuff with him and Arya in Harrenhal, where he's just kind of desperate to interact with someone who isn't a goddamn moron.  In the books he's just kind of a monster, but maybe it's that we only really see him from conversations about him from his children. He probably wasn't ever a great dad, but he's a hell of a whipsmart guy.

And Davos. Not at all who I'd have cast for him (not sure who I would have, so don't ask); he's probably my favorite character from the books, and the TV show just confirms it. I was just watching the scene in "The Night Lands" where he recruits Sallador Saan and his son is all uppity about him being a pirate and stuff, and he just kind of laughs it off as callow youth.  And it's not a cruel laugh, but a loving one from a father. It's nice.  In the books he's kind of this cipher, this closed-off character who does what he thinks is right, usually getting knocked in the teeth for it; the TV Davos humanizes that a lot.  He's sort of the "everyman noble" navigating the currents as best he can.  I hope he makes it all the way through.

If you can, listen to the commentary that Liam Cunningham and Carice Van Houten do on the season 2 blu rays. He is absolutely hilarious.

Also I agree about Robert being perfectly cast. A great choice.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 28, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
1.  I don't much like Theon's portrayal in the show.  And it's not really a problem with the actor, but the writing that tried to make him far more sympathetic than in the books.  He's a miserable little fuck and he needs to stay that way.  Also not a huge fan of Cersei.  I don't think the actress really carries herself the way the role demands.  Though I will admit she did a lot better in S2.

2.  Obviously Arya.  Though I would like to give credit to Iain Glen as Jorah Mormont.  He really captures the character perfectly so far and look forward to more of him.  And a nod to Jack Gleeson who makes me want to punch him just as much as Joffrey.

3.  They've certainly done more with Tywin and Robb than in the books and in both cases I think it's going to be for the benefit of the people only exposed to the show.  Robb and his campaign are little more than second hand stories in the novel.  I really didn't mind the bits with Arya and Tywin as I thought it let him be a bit more three dimensional. 

Major book spoiler below, do not read.

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2) Arya is perfectly cast to me. She's feisty but also kind of naive.  I think she's brilliant.  The other perfect cast was Robert. He was the book-Robert come to farting, belching life.  Gotta agree on Varys as well, he's probably my favorite of the King's Landing crew.

I think they got REALLY lucky with her.  For such a young actor to handle a role like that so well is just incredible.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 28, 2013, 06:41:27 PM
Doesn't help that he's 20 years old and can convincingly look the part of a 13 year old.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 28, 2013, 08:26:29 PM
1.  I don't much like Theon's portrayal in the show.  And it's not really a problem with the actor, but the writing that tried to make him far more sympathetic than in the books.  He's a miserable little fuck and he needs to stay that way.  Also not a huge fan of Cersei.  I don't think the actress really carries herself the way the role demands.  Though I will admit she did a lot better in S2.

2.  Obviously Arya.  Though I would like to give credit to Iain Glen as Jorah Mormont.  He really captures the character perfectly so far and look forward to more of him.  And a nod to Jack Gleeson who makes me want to punch him just as much as Joffrey.

Agreed on Theon and Joffrey. I feel bad for Gleeson; he's going to have a hard time getting roles, I think, because he's so nailed that little shit Joffrey.

One of the jokes on the s2 commentaries is that everyone says how kind and brainy Jack Gleeson is in real life, and then Kit Harrington says in his commentary that he's just like Joffrey. And the women doing the commentary with him bust up laughing.

Iain Glenn as Jorah Mormont is a bit iffy for me, in that I don't think he provides enough emotion to make me think he's in love with Danerys the way the book Jorah does. I feel like he had no idea he was in love with her until people like Quaithe) started telling him he was in love with her and then he was like, Ohhhh. Iain Glenn isn't giving me that emotional punch for Jorah.

I am the only person alive who didn't like the Arya/Tywin scenes. I felt like they were shoe horned in there for exposition, because I have no idea why a man of Tywin's stature would spend time talking to his cup bearer. I don't buy any of it for a second.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on March 28, 2013, 10:26:32 PM
I respectfully disagree.  Like Imrahil pointed out, most of the Harrenhal scenes were with Tywin dealing with the pointless brutality and idiocy of his bannermen.  He knew that "Arry" the cupbearer was pretending to be something she wasn't.  If anything, she intrigued him.  Which is why he had those little chats with her.  Plus, those were some of the best scenes in the second season IMO.

1.    If i had to pick one person I'd think was miscast, I'd say Finn Jones as Loras Tyrell.  Donned up in armor in a joust maybe, but for him to be the equal of Jamie Lannister with a sword, i don't buy it. 

2.  This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'd say Stephen Dillane as Stannis Baratheon.  While not my favorite character from the books, he did match the iron hard, non nonsense, teeth grinding grimace, and cold justice of Stannis from the books.  I'd even give a pass to Asha Greyjoy.  With the way she's cast in the show, she'd look like she could actually command a ship full of pirates, and also looks like she could actually throw a punch you probably wouldn't want to take square in the jaw.  Most of the artists depictions I've seen of her are the typical athletic mountain climber chick type( Lara Croft i guess).  That type is harder for me to imagine stepping toe to toe with a bunch of battle-hardened sailors.  Sure, she might not be as good-looking as the "book" Asha, but to me, much more plausible.

3.  i'd say Littlefinger and Varys.  And maybe its more of a conscious decision by Benioff and Weiss to dispense with pretense, and show those two characters cunning and ingenuity from the start, rather than the few glimpses of them we get from the books from the POV characters whose eyes are completely covered in wool.  Not until book four and five do we actually see their full machinations, while the show shows them scheming from the start, sextoposition scenes notwithstanding.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 28, 2013, 10:35:28 PM
Another great casting choice, Roy Dotrice as the head Pyromancer in season 2.   Was a small role, but it left such an impact on me that I think they should just get rid of the rest of the cast and have him play every single part.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on March 29, 2013, 07:42:51 PM
HBO actually made a good house crest maker.

http://www.jointherealm.com/sigil.html
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on March 29, 2013, 07:54:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ox7TjAN.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 31, 2013, 08:46:37 AM
I won't be watching Game of Thrones tonight; I'm in NYC for the weekend and don't have a television here. I could HBO Go it but I don't feel like wrestling with my tablet.

Fortunately, I am one of those people for whom spoilers actually enhance my enjoyment of a show, so I'm looking forward to reading about the new episode before I see it next weekend.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on March 31, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
I look forward to reading the Onion AV Club's analysis again. That was almost as much fun as the episodes were.

So I just listened to the commentary on "The Garden of Bones" with Liam Cunningham (Davos) and Carice Van Houten (Melisandre) after turning off two previous commentaries (one with the Stark kids was just bullshit, and then one with a director/writer which was too dry). 

I fucking love these two. They were hilarious. They each dropped several F-bombs, and just had fantastic chemistry with each other.  Definitely give it a listen.  My favorite part was how disappointed they each were at seeing themselves on screen. :)

In short: Good call on that one, wurwolf.

It was really hilarious. My favorite part was where they were telling the story about how Carice was being fitted by prosthetics for her fake pregnancy belly, and when Liam saw her naked he said, Wow, they did a really good job on your tits, too! And when she told him they were her real tits he was like, Wow, nice tits!

They have a couple of commentaries with the creators/writers and we slogged through them. I think the coolest thing I learned was how Peter Dinklage has a habit of just picking up props and fiddling with them during his scenes. There''s one scene where he finds out Pycelle has been reporting to Cersei and Bronn cuts his beard, and you see Tyrion just fiddling with some sort of trinket throughout the scene. I never noticed it before but I thought it was cool.

Also we listened to approximately ten seconds of the Stark kids' commentary before I made APGIL turn it off.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: D.B. Barnes on April 01, 2013, 07:21:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/w0FraYg.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on April 01, 2013, 10:27:07 PM
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Oh wait, no, the high point was Tyrion and Tywin. That was some fucking great acting by both men there. Holy shit.

It was one of those scenes that after reading the books, you knew was going to end up on the show.  But even though there was hardly any difference in dialogue, the two actors just punch it up even more to make it altogether new.

I did like the Astapor scene.  We all started cheering when Astapor showed up on the map during the opening credits, and the Harpy statue unfolded.  I suppose the Unsullied costumes were to make it easy to make larger armies in GCI, not to mention saving a fortune on body oil.

also, was this:

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the shows version of a tokar?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 02, 2013, 06:34:45 AM
"HALF MAN, ALL PARTY" is hilarious.  :D
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 02, 2013, 09:57:23 AM
Yeah, I'm hoping they show Mereen and Astapor in all their glory, even if it's just painted backdrops.

Are they not keeping Selmy's secret? I haven't seen the episode but I've been seeing Barristan Selmy gifs. I remember in the books it was drawn out with regards to Whitebeard, but I guess they can't do that in a television show.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 02, 2013, 10:38:54 AM
Nope, he's Barristan right off the bat.

I wonder if any of the non-book readers recognize him.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 03, 2013, 08:39:38 AM
Well, as someone who has never heard of the books, nor has any desire to read them.......

The show is, like the big HBO shows, entertaining.  Naturally, ALL of the names (except for Snow) are odd-non-human-sounding-names, i can never remember anyone's names and when a character says a name, it is lost on me.

Some of the characters are only seen every couple of weeks, so remembering what they are doing, what side they are on, who they are related to?  Meh......
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Post by: Bob on April 03, 2013, 08:47:21 AM
I see you really searched and found the only sorta common names.  The other 99% are just odd.
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Post by: Tripe on April 03, 2013, 09:10:00 AM
Didn't the exchange above happen years ago?
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Post by: Bob on April 03, 2013, 09:18:21 AM
It is a yearly event!
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Post by: Tripe on April 03, 2013, 09:32:33 AM
Oh, I genuinely thought there was a glitch with the forum and a few posts had be duplicated for some hard to fathom reason.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 03, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
Never said "hate" or "offend".

Just a bit hard to follow for people who do not read the books or get so much into the detail that is in the books.
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Post by: Bob on April 03, 2013, 03:13:06 PM
Well.....last book I read was a Stephen King book, so lets just leave it at that!

Now, fetch me a beer.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 03, 2013, 09:06:16 PM
Welp, Bronn is ruined for me...

Or suddenly 500x more awesome.  I can't decide.

http://www.youtube.com/v/r5V8ecsrxeY
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 04, 2013, 06:29:56 AM
What?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 04, 2013, 06:49:37 AM
What?

There's no Strong Belwas.

Maybe I need another cup of coffee, because that read crazy to me. Did Kete even reply to this thread?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 04, 2013, 06:57:01 AM
What?

There's no Strong Belwas.

Maybe I need another cup of coffee, because that read crazy to me. Did Kete even reply to this thread?

Maybe ages ago? He said he read it from the beginning.

Oh, okay, now I think I understand. I thought when he said he went back and read the thread he was just talking about the last few pages. God, this thing is 40 pages long. That's a lot of reading!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on April 04, 2013, 09:42:05 AM
It's in regard to this:

I also want to see how they:
Spoiler: Book 3 (click to show/hide)
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Post by: wurwolf on April 04, 2013, 08:08:39 PM
Good point. I was just confused because I mentioned Barristan Selmy a page or so back and I thought that was what you were referring to. My bad.
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Post by: Ortega on April 04, 2013, 11:01:09 PM
You knew they weren't going to do the Whitebeard thing.  I know this sounds cliché, but TV is a visually medium.  It would be completely obvious to the viewer that its obviously Barristan.  Plus, they've only got 10 episodes to cover huge sprawling narrative arcs, which really don't get any simplier from here on out, so they can't waste a lot of time with arcs that go nowhere.  So jettisoning that section of the book makes sense, as does the one-note character of Belwas, however humorous a note that may be.  Even in the grand scheme of things he doesn't really make much a a difference until
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
, and then when he engorges on candied orthopterans ( if you google that, you can't call spoiler).

I also suspect that everyone's favorite lisping mercenary will probably not show up in the show as well.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 05, 2013, 05:26:06 AM
I'm still bummed about Belwas.  Also: the GOT Reddit seems to think he was black; did you guys get that impression?

Nope, I did not. I assumed that Strong Belwas was more middle easternish with a tinge of white (but maybe that's because I automatically assume white unless proven otherwise). I'm kind of disappointed that he's being ditched, too, but that's because he is, as Ortega pointed out, a relatively humorous character.

Also, Vargo Hoat the lisping mercenary will be in the show, but his name is changed to Locke. I dunno why. I didn't appreciate the name change from Asha to Yara, either. I think I remember reading that they did away with his lisp.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 06, 2013, 06:27:58 AM
Sadly, GRRM confirmed that Strong Belwas will not be appearing in the show, even later:
http://grrm.livejournal.com/319296.html?thread=17535552#t17535552

Awwwww
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Post by: wurwolf on April 06, 2013, 08:09:42 PM
Finally saw the episode that aired on Sunday night. I actually got weepy during the credits to see Winterfell burning but the godswood tree still growing.

Also the harpy of Astapor was fuckin awesome.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 07, 2013, 07:39:31 AM
Finally saw the episode that aired on Sunday night. I actually got weepy during the credits to see Winterfell burning but the godswood tree still growing.

Also the harpy of Astapor was fuckin awesome.

I love the attention that they pay to the details in the credits.
You know how the sun looks like a flower inside that armillary sphere? I think it's a flaming metal daisy. Which is awesome, because "Daisy" means "day's eye" in Anglo-Saxon.  In other words, it means "sun."

That's pretty fantastic. I was wondering why the sun looked so much like a flower. The credits are really spectacular; I knew that Astapor was being shown but I wasn't prepared for the emotional impact of Winterfell.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 07, 2013, 11:09:46 AM
I noticed that, too, so it looks like we might get some swordplay from these two tonight.
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Post by: wurwolf on April 07, 2013, 07:31:28 PM
Holy shit that was a good episode. I really enjoyed that one, liked the introduction of new characters, too. I love what they're doing with Margarey -- she is a force to be reckoned with, as opposed to the books where that part of her was hinted at but never really displayed to my satisfaction. That added scene between her and Joffrey was amazing. It made my flesh crawl. She is playing that motherfucker.

I am going to spoiler this next part. This has to do with Theon's story so if you haven't read A Dance With Dragons and don't want to be spoiled, don't click.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 07, 2013, 07:54:52 PM
Show knocked it out of the park with new introductions. 

The new Wildlings, the Reeds, The Brotherhood, and man, if that isn't perfect casting of the Queen of Thorns.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 08, 2013, 02:54:28 AM
APGIL said before the show started that Diana Riggs was purely stunt casting, but after her scene he said, "She just dropped the mic and walked out."
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Post by: Bob on April 08, 2013, 03:21:54 AM
Wait, there is a family of people with the last name of "Reed"?

Now how will I remember that?

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 08, 2013, 06:30:36 AM
Also I was kind of displeased by the added scene with Cat and Robb's chick (Jeyne replacement, I can't remember her name). The writers/creators/producers really hate Cat, don't they? They just love heaping the blame on her. Now she's taking responsibility for the entire downfall of the Winterfell clan, because she didn't like Jon Snow. Shit. Like she doesn't get enough hate.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 08, 2013, 07:54:20 AM
Quote
APGIL said before the show started that Diana Riggs was purely stunt casting, but after her scene he said, "She just dropped the mic and walked out."

I don't understand what this means. Is it good or bad?

Good.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 08, 2013, 10:14:36 AM
Now THAT helps.

Danke.

This Reed enjoys.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on April 10, 2013, 07:45:14 PM
(http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/dam/dailybeast/2013/04/08/130408-craigslist-game-of-thrones-embed2.jpg)

Could be worse, she could want to be Cersei.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on April 10, 2013, 11:14:41 PM
Well, it does rhyme with freak.......
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 14, 2013, 01:04:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wFijyf4.jpg)

I'm like 99% sure that this is how the series ends.

more random cast pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/uXPYY

(http://i.imgur.com/h4pRBTG.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 14, 2013, 08:26:42 PM
Raise your hand if you liked tonight's episode.
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Post by: The Lurker on April 14, 2013, 09:08:12 PM
From Shirtpunch.com
(https://www.shirtpunch.com/imagefly/w481-h604-c/resources/media/images/designs/April-15-Castle-Greyjoy_MensMainMockup1_c57.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 15, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
So, I'm guessing you can use a sword with just your left hand?   Ouch.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 15, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
(http://i.minus.com/ibf4RwShY1h2wB.gif)

"So... Hot pie is gone then? "

"Should I take a cast of his head for the beheading"

"No, he's just going to end up as a baker at an inn sympathetic to the Brotherhood"

"But then someone shoots him with an arrow?"

"Nope, works at the inn."

"So, then they burn him alive, and serve him in meat pies?"

"Nope, he's a good cook"

"Then he screws up someones meal and is drow-"

"NO, he lives happily ever after."

"How the hell does that fit with this show?"
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 22, 2013, 06:26:55 PM
I'm kind of meh to that.  He never shows those feelings in the books (least not as far into ADWD as I've gotten).  The show is trying to make him much more sympathetic than in the books.  While what happens to him is terrible, he freely made the choice himself, and never showed any regrets until everything falls apart.  Overall, I'm wondering what they're going to do with Theon the next two seasons.  I think they missed a good opportunity to fool the audience by just not having him appear for the first few episodes.   But that just brings up a problem with the series, in that they're afraid to skip some of the "main" characters for an episode or two.  Like Tyrion.  He doesn't do much in the first half of ASOS, yet they make sure he still has a scene every epsode, needed or not.

(http://i.minus.com/iTCCLZr4O38xT.gif)
This needed a fist bump.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 23, 2013, 09:06:03 AM
Gotcha.

Here, Bob, for you (and anyone else who can't handle the names),  cheat sheet:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mawslvYitB1r0udeeo1_1280.jpg)
Needs to be added...

(http://i.imgur.com/1xDzjc3.png)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 23, 2013, 10:20:14 AM
what can I say, I'm bored.

(http://i.imgur.com/RodLvlF.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on April 29, 2013, 10:43:22 AM
I don't think I'm giving anything away by asking did anyone else wish that Jamie Lanister took a moment to lower his head to wash away some of the shit during that whole scene in the bath? 
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Bob on April 29, 2013, 10:52:54 AM
I think the plan for bathing was if you faint, you get clean.

And, I guess the reason for the sword coming on fire from rubbing you blood on it made more sense if you read the books.  For me, it was just cool looking, but not much of a weapon.
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Post by: Lemming Howard on April 29, 2013, 10:57:59 AM
Not much of a weapon,  but it wasn't CGI'd as far as could tell and flaming swords are a staple in sword and sorcery stories as far back as I can remember.  Just plain cool.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MUD CRICKET on April 29, 2013, 10:59:10 AM
I don't think I'm giving anything away by asking did anyone else wish that Jamie Lanister took a moment to lower his head to wash away some of the shit during that whole scene in the bath? 
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

haha yes.

the flaming sword was cool.  wasnt klegane freaked out by the fire during the assault on Kings Landing?  Maybe he has a thing with fire?
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Post by: Kete on April 29, 2013, 11:00:12 AM
That's how he got the scar on his face.
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Post by: Bob on April 29, 2013, 01:15:08 PM
Well, I am guessing the only wound you can have with a sword if you get stabbed with it, and fire would not help with that.  A fast moving sword that just touches you would not actaully catch you on fire.  I am guessing it was just to scare the person.......who ended up killing you anyway.

So he would have been better off with a bigger sword.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 29, 2013, 01:21:38 PM
He should have wished out a Glock .45................just saying.

It still was cool looking and made for a well shot action scene on HBO.

Maybe he could give that guy a flaming birthday cake to mess him up some more.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on April 29, 2013, 01:22:31 PM
So he would have been better off with a bigger sword.
This isn't true in almost any situation fictional or real.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 29, 2013, 02:03:45 PM
That would help out people (like me) who get puzzled just watching the lands they flash over during the opening credits.  And we see some guys for just a few seconds every few weeks, you have no clue who they are or how they are tied in with other characters.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 29, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
Tub scene and the final scene were excellent.

Almost made up for those stupid, stupid baby cylinder things.  Just looked so out of place in this series.
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Post by: Ortega on April 29, 2013, 09:59:36 PM
Well, the "Alien" baby-tubes notwithstanding, i loved the added scenes with Stannis.  It showed a more human side of Stannis that you really don't see in the books, especially with Princess Shireen(Weird-Facial-Scar Girl for you nomenclatured-impaired types). 

One thing i like about the show is even after reading the books, and knowing where the narrative is leading, it still entertains.  The bathroom scene with Jamie and Brienne is an example.  The scene is almost word for word from the book, yet the actors add that punch to set it over the top. 

From the looks of it, it seems we will probably have the "colored nuptials" in this season after all.  Happy times for all.....

One more thing:  I missed mentioning it from the episode before, but i thought they knocked the Great Sept of Baelor out of the park.  Kinda of a Pantheon theme to it, but i still thought it was pretty impressive.

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Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 30, 2013, 01:49:32 PM
Yeah, sort of Pantheon-ish I guess. I thought more of St. Peter's.  But it was cool.

I read a theory about her test tube babies:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 30, 2013, 08:57:41 PM
Lena is still one of the weakest cast members for me.  She just doesn't carry herself the way Cersei does in my head in the books.  She's not bad, I just think she's looks weak, especially when paired in scenes with Tyrion and/or Tywin.

And a little something for the book readers
DO NOT CLICK IF YOU HAVE NOT READ A STORM OF SWORDS
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 05, 2013, 08:20:39 PM
You know, I'm starting to suspect that that Jeoffrey kid isn't a nice guy.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 07, 2013, 11:24:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/GcCEnuP.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 13, 2013, 12:49:43 PM
I am sure the readers of the book who are watching the show probably don't agree with my comments below, but.....

1.  Jeez, do SOMETHING already.  So much walking around. 
2.  The guy torturing Robb (I think that is his name) the past many episodes is always the "oh, it starts out nice, then I go SURPRISE and mess with you again".  And he says EVERYTHING with the annoying face and speaking method.  ENOUGH with that.
3.  The red haired woman now going out with the Snow guy cannot say ANYTHING without making a weird facial smile/smirk and having a weird comedian accent on all she says.  ENOUGH.
4.  The blonde woman has been going around for two years to attack something, well, do it, will you?
5.  I guess there is something in the book-related plans for the kid who got thrown out of the castle in season one to allow something interesting to happen with him.  But all I see now is him being hauled around with yelling people.

I am sure these are following the books, which is great.  But for those that have not read the books, this show does have a lot of things that could be cut a bit.

Still interesting to watch, but for the non-book readers, it could be more. 
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Post by: Bob on May 13, 2013, 02:34:02 PM
I mean to say she says everything in a fake voice like she is a stand up comic.  I know her character is trying to make fun of someone and tell a joke, but EVERY scene she is in?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 13, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
They screwed up with Theon.  They should have waited half the season before reintroducing him again, or better yet, leave him out entirely until next season.  But no, they have to get these actors in for a certain amount of screen time.  In the books, there was a very, very long gap between him getting "killed" at Winterfell and the reveal that he's with this boy.

My big issue with the episode (Major Book spoilers below)
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Post by: Tripe on May 14, 2013, 07:53:23 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/971043_10151712883307868_1328360454_n.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 15, 2013, 04:39:01 PM
The stuff with Theon I think has been handled poorly,  They should have introduced Theon again midway through the series.  I don't mind them showing the torturing.

And for a bit from the books..
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 15, 2013, 06:00:19 PM
I'm just wondering where they plan to go with this. 

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 20, 2013, 04:03:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mzmiKx4.gif)

Episode 9 preview was perfect.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on May 20, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
On the "Rains of Castamere" scene:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I enjoyed the episode pretty well as a whole. Drunk Tyrion was great and that was probably some of the best material he's gotten this season. I'm so looking forward to the next episode and I'm really annoyed by the fact that we have to wait two weeks for it. 
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Post by: JimJ on May 21, 2013, 03:28:35 PM

I found Samwise boring until this episode.  Good to see him show some spine.  But the idiot appeared to leave the dagger behind.  Ummm, it kills white walkers, doofus.  Might want to keep it?

The writers have really treated his character like shit. He's not like some amazing hero in the book, but he just appears completely incompetent in the show. I believe, in the books, he DOES get the ravens sent. He also kills the white walker much earlier when he is still with the Night's Watch, earning the (sometimes sarcastic, sometimes not) nickname of "Sam the Slayer". Plus the blade shatters when he does it, so he can't take it with him. That being said, I believe he has more obsidian blades with him, it wasn't just the one. So leaving that one behind isn't a huge deal.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 21, 2013, 04:34:37 PM
I can't wait for
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Russian_bread_and_salt.jpg/800px-Russian_bread_and_salt.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 01, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
soon...

Two weeks has been rough.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 02, 2013, 01:07:15 PM
Tell me about it! I was one of those suckers that sat down on Memorial Day to see the ninth episode.  :(

What?  You didn't like the side film about Loras and Renley that they showed instead?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on June 02, 2013, 07:16:50 PM
Ugh :(
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 02, 2013, 07:20:52 PM
THE NORTH REMEMBERS!

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 02, 2013, 07:36:32 PM
#gameofthrones
#redwedding

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meabz7Ww2M1rrw561o1_400.gif)


And a few image macros making the rounds.
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Post by: iv3rdawG on June 02, 2013, 07:40:53 PM
From reddit:

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Post by: JimJ on June 02, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on June 02, 2013, 10:45:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/r3n2acc.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 03, 2013, 02:28:06 PM
Every book reader last night
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XURJ15S9xEk/T6QGIlwtlrI/AAAAAAAABGE/LZER-vUpq8c/s1600/survivor-smile.gif)

Sad thing for the show only watchers, they have to deal with this for a year.  In the books, this was close to the halfway mark.  The Red Wedding was never intended to be a pause in the narrative the way it will be in the show, and book readers got to read more to get over the gut punch.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 03, 2013, 05:28:27 PM
Never read the books, so I had NO idea that was coming.   Not a hint.

But wow, that was well done.

Of course, I have no idea what "good guys" there are left that can do anything and it will be a long off season. 

Last nights show changed any idea I had about what would happen next.   
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 03, 2013, 06:00:01 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/oh-shit-i-totally-forgot-that-happens,32673/

Quote
As the author of the popular Song Of Ice And Fire series of fantasy novels, it has been a pleasure and a joy to watch Game Of Thrones, HBO’s riveting television adaptation of my work. Every week, the show delights viewers, myself included, with a series of stirring performances, deftly maneuvered feats of visual storytelling, and eye-popping special effects. It truly is a joy to watch my novels—my life’s work—come to life on the screen, rendered with tact, faithfulness, and considerable filmmaking skill.

That being said, HOLY FUCKING SHIT. I totally forgot that whole thing about the Red Wedding! Christ almighty, talk about a punch in the goddamned gut. I must have been sitting there for 20 minutes afterwards just completely numb with disbelief, like, “What the hell did I just watch?”

I mean, is it that brutal in my book? I honestly don’t remember.

The whole time it was happening, I was literally just staring at my television in shock thinking, “Son of a bitch, I forgot about that! Three of the story’s main characters are murdered in the most savage and horrific fashion imaginable!” My wife and I were sitting on the couch and we both just turned and looked at each other, like, “Whoa. That was intense.” I mean, I vaguely remember writing something like that, but that was years ago, you know? You forget these things.

More at the link.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on June 03, 2013, 11:11:20 PM
A message from Arya herself: https://vine.co/v/b3XZMHmxzxh
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on June 04, 2013, 07:22:00 AM
For Bob:

(http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/filestorage/game-of-thrones-characters-die-hbo-tv-ecards-someecards.png)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 04, 2013, 08:54:38 AM
No kidding!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 04, 2013, 12:15:29 PM
Still puzzled on where all this will go........... I see the boy and girl kids are doing fine and I imagine that SciFi kind of writers makes sure that good things happen to the kids to build up their readers, so good things will happen to them.  Well, that is how I imagine these writers think anyway.

The blonde girl has taken off her top, so she must be getting to more action.  I think a few more topless scenes are in order.

But really, I have NO idea.  But that is a good way to keep people like me interested in the show.

Good job.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 04, 2013, 03:50:12 PM
Thing is, Robb never was a main part of the story in the books.  His war was, but he wasn't.  The show decided to make him the main character he never was in the books.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on June 04, 2013, 05:29:50 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/e6WgISE.jpg?1)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on June 04, 2013, 07:16:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/78juOpTM3tE

Warning: Gratuitous Man Boobies around the 5 minute mark.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 06, 2013, 02:13:35 AM
Think the world is full of people who don't read the books.....
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on June 06, 2013, 08:43:00 AM

I just bought the first book a few weeks ago, and was planning to only read each book when the events within had been depicted on the show.  I'm thinking the series is up to the third book now?  I am rethinking this, now.

Yeah, so far it's been simple.  Three seasons covering three books.  After this season is where it will get more complicated.  This season only covered about half of book 3, so the majority of next season will cover the rest of that book.  Then the next season or two will probably be books 4 and 5 simultaneously, as those two books were originally meant to be one book, and most of what happens in them is happening at around the same time.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on June 06, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2013/6/5/13/enhanced-buzz-30885-1370454653-1.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on June 06, 2013, 09:59:17 PM
We had a big viewing party for Sunday's episode, and only me and another friend of mine had read the books, so it was pretty fun.  During all the wedding scenes at the Twins, we just looked at each other.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, i found this entertaining:

WARNING: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SUPER DEFCON 5 SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I REPEAT, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SUPER BIG MEGA TIME SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 07, 2013, 03:07:09 AM
Wonder what percentage of viewers actually read the books?   
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on June 07, 2013, 05:09:25 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/600562_10151636760728007_1311811222_n.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Compound on June 07, 2013, 03:57:06 PM
George RR Martin on Conan: http://teamcoco.com/video/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-spoilers

Winter comes. It's not so bad.



Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on June 07, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
http://store.hbo.com/game-of-thrones-life-size-replica-iron-throne/detail.php?p=373634 (http://store.hbo.com/game-of-thrones-life-size-replica-iron-throne/detail.php?p=373634)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on June 08, 2013, 08:53:20 PM
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/6/3/12/enhanced-buzz-9495-1370276103-32.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 10, 2013, 06:05:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/k3ezgZI.gif)

That reveal was hilarious.


Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 10, 2013, 06:10:12 PM
That actor is terrible, his comments are terrible and the pointless scenes go on forever.

Just kill him please.   It kills the episodes until his crud is over.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 10, 2013, 06:20:03 PM
Theon or Ramsay?  Because Ramsay is perfect.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 10, 2013, 06:26:20 PM
(Like anyone's name is one that I will remember!)

The torture guy, ugh.   
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on June 10, 2013, 06:26:58 PM
(https://uploads-riptapparel-com.s3.amazonaws.com/designs/6788/throne-fighter-detail_36974_cached_thumb_-928107ac47da4bc345a3edd84ac43cf3.jpg)

Also, this shirt is now available again.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/teefury/products_large_images/1370304739_b-MCO-greyjoy.png)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: TeamRAD on June 11, 2013, 04:10:32 PM

The torture guy, ugh.


Thumbs down.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on June 12, 2013, 06:54:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/k3ezgZI.gif)

That reveal was hilarious.


Thought it was lame myself.  What I thought  had been a "funny" moment was when Brienne (if I got the name right) whips out her dinner knife to help Jaime cut his ham steak either because she was tired of watching him try or that he wasn't asking for some help.  That was  when I realized that there are hardly any funny moments in this series.  Jofrey getting slapped by Tyrion is funny but I just liked seeing him get slapped.  Tyrion rallying the men to attack by saying "Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them."  Also when he says "Oh fuck me"  minutes later.  Sort of funny but just a brief lull really in the drama and violence. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on June 12, 2013, 05:02:11 PM
Gotta say that's why I'm having trouble getting through the TV series. I'm still only a couple episodes into this season. I've read all the books and enjoyed them, but when I'm slapped in the face with the visual and auditory reality of just how depressing it all is, it's hard for me to get into it.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on June 13, 2013, 02:33:53 AM
And not one "Bob" in there.......oh well, next season perhaps.

I honestly, can not give you but a couple names.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on June 13, 2013, 03:06:45 AM
I'm better at faces myself.  I can usually spot an actor in two different movies even if they had been made 50 years apart.  I have to admit I really had to stare at Diana Rigg to realize it was her,   but she was all wrapped up in tht burqa they made her wear. 
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 14, 2013, 06:10:03 PM
(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2013/06/13/13-GoTinfographics5.o.png/a_560x0.png)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on June 18, 2013, 06:34:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/9961bDp.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on June 26, 2013, 10:38:11 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/7qFwgCp.png)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on June 30, 2013, 07:09:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/du6QZMX.png)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 01, 2013, 09:17:10 PM
http://www.avclub.com/articles/game-of-thrones-casts-its-first-season-four-charac,99623/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Default:4:Default

Quote
With every single character dying at the end of the third season, their bullet-ridden corpses feasted upon by bears as the sun went supernova and set the entire Seven Kingdoms ablaze, Game Of Thrones has begun the necessary task of restocking for season four, seeing as it still needs to be a TV show. The first of those new people whom you haven’t yet formed an attachment to only to see them killed horribly will be played by Chilean actor Pedro Pascal (The Good Wife, Graceland) who Entertainment Weekly reports will take on the role of Prince Oberyn Martell—arguably the season’s “most anticipated,” for reasons which fans who have read the books will struggle to articulate without completely spoiling everything, as is our now-annual custom.

Without giving too much away to those who haven’t read the books, Oberyn is a man. He breathes and is ambulatory. His turn-ons include living, existing, and not being brutally killed. He also bears the nickname “The Red Viper,” an allusion to a species of snake that’s famous for being alive. Also, he’s described by showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss as “sexy and charming,” which should make for an interesting change of pace for Game Of Thrones, throwing a person who enjoys sex in there.   

Funny story, but casting is true. 
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2013/06/28/Pedro-Pascal.jpg)

I was kind of rooting for Alexander Siddig to get the roll.  Oh well, show hasn't failed on casting yet.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on July 13, 2013, 09:58:54 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/NLB7hdQ.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: MSTJedi on July 13, 2013, 02:28:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/9961bDp.jpg)

I'm thinking there'd be a lot of use for the color red in that book.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on July 14, 2013, 07:20:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/oxOnOW0.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 14, 2013, 08:36:09 PM
He is a bastard, though.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on July 19, 2013, 08:25:37 PM
In Memroriam video was shown at comicon

http://www.youtube.com/v/9m4ZPULXJKw

 :clap:
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on July 20, 2013, 06:44:28 AM
Well, I am sure the books have no more killing, so that will be nice. 

I think there is one killing we ALL want..............the punky king.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on September 24, 2013, 03:03:31 PM
Screen time for each character this past season (spoilered for size):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on September 27, 2013, 09:53:05 AM
Really? Meera Reed got more screen time than Loras Tyrell? Or even Theon?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on September 28, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
Really? Meera Reed got more screen time than Loras Tyrell? Or even Theon?

All Reeds deserve more credit
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on October 01, 2013, 02:11:13 PM
I must have totally missed this due to being on vacation, but about a month ago there was a casting change announced on Game of Thrones. Ed Skrein is no longer Daario Naharis. They have a new guy, and perhaps he will be more to your liking, Imrahil.

(http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/daario.jpg)

http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/first-look-at-the-new-daario/

He looks a lot less Fabio and more like... well, a brunette Jaime Lannister. But these pictures aren't close ups so it's a little hard to tell exactly.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: modelmeg on October 01, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
I'm basically happy to never see Theon again, so that doesn't bother me.

I actually think that it would have been more effective if they'd treated Theon's downfall like they did in the book. We hear almost nothing from him for a long time and the next time we see him he's been turned into Reek. That actually shocked me and I found his chapters incredibly hard to read. I think it would have been more controversial, but, in the long run, more affecting to the audience.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on October 02, 2013, 06:17:23 AM
Are we sure that's daario, wurwolf?

The Hollywood Reporter cites "sources".

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-books-treme-alum-616705

So no, not sure it's Daario. I'm trying to think who else he could be, perhaps the Yunkish man she marries (can't remember his name)? This guy doesn't look like her husband in the books, though.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on October 02, 2013, 06:46:02 AM
I'm basically happy to never see Theon again, so that doesn't bother me.

I actually think that it would have been more effective if they'd treated Theon's downfall like they did in the book. We hear almost nothing from him for a long time and the next time we see him he's been turned into Reek. That actually shocked me and I found his chapters incredibly hard to read. I think it would have been more controversial, but, in the long run, more affecting to the audience.

I agree with this a lot. I understand why they didn't do it that way (actors and contracts and other work) but I feel as though it really did a disservice to Theon's story. That had such an impact on me in the books, and I liked that GRRM skipped the nitty gritty of the torture scenes to give us Reek.

On the other hand, I feel as though Bran and Rickon's stories will play out better on tv than in the books (at least thus far).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on October 03, 2013, 07:13:04 AM
(http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Lannister-Always-Spays-His-Pets-500x622.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on October 04, 2013, 11:19:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/NtUvHwD.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on October 05, 2013, 05:26:30 AM
Short version: everyone dies.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: iv3rdawG on November 05, 2013, 04:01:22 PM
I love Natalie Dormer:

http://www.youtube.com/v/awnGvpqiys4?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


Despite what the title says, no spoilers for non-book readers like myself.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Sideswipe on January 02, 2014, 04:39:49 PM
Just started watching.  Peter Dinklage is this show!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on January 12, 2014, 06:51:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/xZY43QSx3Fk
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on February 14, 2014, 06:14:17 PM
I didn't get a chance to watch the video all the way through, so I don't know if this is on it, but I saw this on one of my Game of Thrones tumblrs that I follow:

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/a077dc71c5feb2d96b52eb16ea5955f3/tumblr_n0rf3pqeA51spo6zno1_500.gif)

Drogon grew up. I can't wait!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on February 15, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
Since I have not read any of the books (nor have any desire too), I cannot say how closely they follow the books, but the production company does a great job filming it and the thing is full of good actors.  So those are plusses.

I have this feeling that that annoying kid king is going to live forever.

And the blonde dragon woman needs more topless scenes of course.

And if characters have the last name of "Reed", you know they will be great.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on February 15, 2014, 10:26:40 AM
I have this feeling that that annoying kid king is going to live forever.
Funny story....
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gbeenie on February 18, 2014, 12:41:28 AM
The ad for the Season 3 box set is kinda meta, and kinda brilliant:

https://www.youtube.com/v/0fJ-YKex-oc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: lassieface on February 19, 2014, 05:29:26 PM
There are so many HUGE events they have to cram into this season. Can not wait to see this.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lembach on March 30, 2014, 12:47:43 AM
(http://i.minus.com/is0MNFnfSaGg3.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: PsychoGoatee on March 30, 2014, 11:16:12 PM
(http://i.minus.com/is0MNFnfSaGg3.jpg)
That guy makes Tom Berenger in The Substitute look like a big softie.  ;D
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 06, 2014, 03:01:28 PM
 Lots of goods shows Sunday night.......
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 13, 2014, 06:55:49 PM
After tonight's show.......

THANK GOD!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on April 13, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
Major spoiler for tonight's episode.

http://i.imgur.com/a14A5b7.gif
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 14, 2014, 02:06:32 AM
Next I hope is the ex-queen crabby lady or the annoying torture/smiling kid.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on April 14, 2014, 12:15:57 PM
Major spoiler for tonight's episode.

http://i.imgur.com/a14A5b7.gif


I think it was Dianna Rigg.  She was once a host or "presenter" of PBS "Mystery!" so it's appropriate.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: gbeenie on April 15, 2014, 04:17:07 PM
The "purple wedding" reaction videos are priceless. I honestly can't think of an occasion in my lifetime that a TV character has engendered such strong reactions in people.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on April 15, 2014, 04:22:47 PM
Great role for that kid to have....
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Tripe on April 15, 2014, 07:55:17 PM
My favourite reaction shot:

(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10262096_10202848061956090_6331738088457835850_n.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on April 15, 2014, 09:16:51 PM
Great role for that kid to have....

I've heard for a while that he was going to retire from acting after his run on the show is over.  It's kind of sad because he's so good in that role, but I also don't blame him.  He has next to no chance of getting any different kind of role.  He'd be typecast for life as an evil, sniveling little shit.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: RoninFox on April 16, 2014, 06:24:57 AM
My favourite reaction shot:

(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10262096_10202848061956090_6331738088457835850_n.jpg)

If only it were a Batman Begins poster in the background instead.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on April 16, 2014, 04:16:06 PM
random image because it thought it was awesome.

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q80/paranoia2K/5171cf095030425cc2c004cc42816ead_zps6f0b7363.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 19, 2014, 06:11:16 AM
We're not watching this season because we got rid of our cable last September, but I know what's going on because internet.

(Not that I'm complaining, I've read the books and don't care about spoilers so I'm actively seeking out season 4 Game of Thrones reviews/stills/etc. as each episode airs.)

I'm glad they bumped the Purple Wedding up to the beginning of season 4 instead of saving it for, say, episode 8. It would have been one long season of Joffrey being an increasingly troublesome shit and would have gone on way too long, much the way Theon's torture scenes were dragged out.

Major major props to Jack Gleeson as Joffrey. He completely nailed that role, to the point where people have been celebrating his character's death. Really nicely done, and sorry to hear he's giving up acting. What a swan song.

Surprised no one has posted this picture yet:

(http://crayfisher.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/dead-joffrey.png?w=640)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on April 20, 2014, 10:43:27 PM
So, this is the second time that I can remember that the show has taken a consensual sex scene from the books and made it a rape scene on the show.  The first being Dany and Drogo's wedding night.   I really don't get it at all, especially since they're in the process of trying to redeem Jaime's character.  In the book, Cersei resists for like a second, just because of where they are and fear of being caught, but she's almost literally begging for it in the next paragraph.

Other than that, I thought it was a really good episode, despite nothing huge happening.  Loved the scene with Tyrion and Pod.  The scene between Tywin and Tommen was a great way to get in some of the rich history of Westeros while also showing Tywin manipulating Tommen.  "A good king listens to his advisers." -Tommen's highest ranking adviser.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on April 21, 2014, 05:13:57 PM
George R.R. Martin non-answers concerns over the Jaime/Cersei sex scene:

http://winteriscoming.net/2014/04/21/george-r-r-martin-responds-fans-concern-breaker-chains/

I thought the Drogo/Dany wedding night was a good change from the books, certainly a more appropriate reaction from a 13 year old virgin on her wedding night than what GRRM wrote. I am not sure how I feel about Jaime and Cersei's moment -- I can see why it would be a disappointment for the fans who were assuming Jaime was on a redemptive arc after his travels with Brienne (although I'm glad he's evidently not) but I wish they hadn't resorted to sexual violence.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on April 30, 2014, 09:36:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/p1c9wOq.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on May 09, 2014, 11:50:37 AM
The whole episode just felt like the writers going "WHOA we have to slow down, too much shit is happening.  Let's have an episode or two where nothing occurs."

The whole Locke thing is just kind of pointless. They do this big sinister buildup and then bam, nothing.  The whole Craster's Keep storyline is just pointless padding.

But they did need to pad the story line at the Wall out some, and as padding goes I'll take the Craster's Keep stuff over Dany's "Give me back my dragons!" padding from season 2 any day.  I did hate how ridiculously over the top evil they were.  Drinking wine out of Mormont's skull and constant background rape, very fucking subtle.  That being said, I liked the fight between Karl and Jon, and Bran using Hodor to kill Locke was pretty interesting I thought.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: The Lurker on May 12, 2014, 08:38:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/UBb54vh.jpg)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 12, 2014, 04:17:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/X3pf9Pt.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 19, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
I disliked the "only cat." change.  Not only was it quite a memorable line from the book, but it seems the only reason it was changed is the show runners think the non-book readers are all idiots and won't know who Cat is.  Just like them changing Asha's name to Yara.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 22, 2014, 10:59:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/X3pf9Pt.gif)

Fuck the ironborn and their shit storyline. I'm skipping those chapters on my re-read of AFFC.  So fucking dull.

But, Victarion is awesome!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 23, 2014, 12:15:22 PM
Given that Quentyn's storyline amounted to nothing, I think everyone could have done without it.  It didn't even lead to something, it was just pure, pointless filler.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: lassieface on May 23, 2014, 01:47:12 PM
Given that Quentyn's storyline amounted to nothing, I think everyone could have done without it.  It didn't even lead to something, it was just pure, pointless filler.

If Cormac McCarthy wrote ASOIAF the whole series would be 300 pages long. GRRM does filler like no one else. Not complaining...he gives us awesome battles and political intrigue. I could do without all the food porn though.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 27, 2014, 10:22:08 AM
So the list of new characters for season 5 has been announced, according to the AV Club (http://www.avclub.com/article/heres-list-new-characters-who-will-appear-game-thr-205038?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default), and I am putting the list under the spoiler tag for anyone who would rather not know.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So....

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on May 27, 2014, 01:47:12 PM
But I didn't know Areo Hotah was black.

Perhaps they're just looking to fill roles that could be played by non-whites.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on May 27, 2014, 02:15:42 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Bob on May 27, 2014, 05:03:31 PM
So the list of new characters for season 5 has been announced, according to the AV Club (http://www.avclub.com/article/heres-list-new-characters-who-will-appear-game-thr-205038?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default), and I am putting the list under the spoiler tag for anyone who would rather not know.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So....

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

More names that I will never remember while watching next year.  Woot
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: lassieface on May 27, 2014, 10:01:35 PM
I've just started skipping anything involving them.

But...But...You can't do that? Can he do that? I genuinely don't remember if anything important happens in them.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on May 27, 2014, 11:04:33 PM
And if the popular fan theory about Euron is true, he is already in the show.
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Post by: lassieface on June 01, 2014, 09:22:55 AM
This made me laugh...via the Game of Thrones subreddit

(https://i.imgur.com/1wBaCnD.png)

"These were guesses, so I hope that I haven’t spoiled any future events, such as the possible reveal that Stannis and Davos are drift compatible."
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on June 01, 2014, 07:33:32 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: The Lurker on June 01, 2014, 08:00:36 PM
http://www.nerdist.com/2014/06/groove-to-game-of-thrones-theme-song-thanks-to-this-80s-remix/ (http://www.nerdist.com/2014/06/groove-to-game-of-thrones-theme-song-thanks-to-this-80s-remix/)
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Post by: Ortega on June 01, 2014, 09:11:32 PM
You know i could make a "splitting-headache" joke right now, but i just think its too soon.....
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 01, 2014, 10:10:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/gbHHcGd.jpg)
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Post by: Bob on June 02, 2014, 02:34:19 AM
Well, that was......painful looking.

Wouldn't that count as a tie?
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Post by: JimJ on June 02, 2014, 03:45:35 AM
Well, that was......painful looking.

Wouldn't that count as a tie?

Even if both of them are dead, it was pretty clear who died first.
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Post by: wurwolf on June 02, 2014, 04:34:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/gbHHcGd.jpg)

This made me laugh a lot, one because of last night's episode, and two because Lena's painted thumbnails make it look like Pedro Pascal is wearing googly eyes.

Also, this is from the newbie review (http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/game-thrones-newbies-mountain-and-viper-205256) at the AV Club:

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Next week’s episode will stand out because of the break from format; if season four’s flair for endings is any indication, the season finale ought to leave the audience collectively without its breath. And yet I don’t think either hour will end up topping “The Mountain And The Viper.”


LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Post by: RandyMistie on June 02, 2014, 11:29:46 AM
I love GOT, it is NOT your grandfather's Lord of the Rings... I have not read as far as the HBO series has got, (GOT, get it?), but my wife has, so she often gives me subtle spoilers. Like when I was all like, "The Prince of Dorn will so totally kill the Mountain!" and she pursed her lips and slightly shook her head, and I got all sad inside.... "...but what of Tyrion, my favourite character....?"

SpOILer AleRt!

She spoiled it for me, and now I take it out on you!

Here is something I, as something of a biologist thought to myself as I watched the latest Antepenultimate episode, Grey Worm is an unsullied. It was established that the Unsullied were "de-balled", "Gelded", castrated before puberty. Now, we do not know if it was "Pillar and stones" but I must say as someone who has studied these things....

If your testes are removed before puberty.... you don't develop muscles and bone structure like Grey Worm has done. Lord Valayrys(?), the bald eunuch, HE looks like someone who was castrated before puberty. Soft and lilting. The testes are all about the testosterone, which grows the hair, the muscles, hard-wires the brain for hunting, deepens the voice, and builds the strong facial bone structure that the females of the species like.

Now, on the upside; in the 7th century the old Caliphs, and Sultans would "de-ball" a man well into his twenties to guard his harem. The thought was that if you cut a dude's balls off he would lose his desire.... not so after puberty. The result was, that the women in the harem enjoyed their eunuch guards for hours on end, as they could never... climax... They became human dildoes. Breathing machines for their ever erect penises.

I'm sorry was that.... indelicate...?
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 02, 2014, 02:22:37 PM
I really wish they had held off Jorah's dismissal till next season.  With all the stuff going on in this and the next two episodes, it really loses all impact.
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Post by: David on June 02, 2014, 03:25:00 PM
Well, that was......painful looking.

Wouldn't that count as a tie?

Even if both of them are dead, it was pretty clear who died first.

First and... more thoroughly.
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Post by: Bob on June 02, 2014, 04:42:19 PM
Well, that was......painful looking.

Wouldn't that count as a tie?

Even if both of them are dead, it was pretty clear who died first.

I say throw a flag and challenge the ruling on the field.  Go to the replay camera.


First and... more thoroughly.
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Post by: Bob on June 02, 2014, 04:45:18 PM
Iain Glen has gotten really craggy this year. Like he needs to stay out of the sun more.

I still think of his role of Jack Taylor when I see him.......
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Post by: RandyMistie on June 02, 2014, 04:49:30 PM
No, it's smoking. Most actors smoke to keep slim, the problem is the skin becomes very "unfriendly" to hi-def.... robs the skin of collagen... mummy-like....
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Post by: RandyMistie on June 02, 2014, 07:34:05 PM
"I'm thin, but I'm a mummy!"

Yes, he was great as Jack Taylor of the Guarda.

"LOVE, mummy! hugs HUGS!" (ATHF)
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Post by: gbeenie on June 02, 2014, 10:15:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/gbHHcGd.jpg)

Punchline: Lena Headey posted this photo to her instagram last month.
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Post by: gbeenie on June 02, 2014, 10:19:54 PM
Well, that was......painful looking.

Wouldn't that count as a tie?

Even if both of them are dead, it was pretty clear who died first.

First and... more thoroughly.

BUT (I just thought about this tonight)... Didnt Oberyn technically make the first killing blow? The input of any attorneys with "trial by combat" experience would be useful right about now.  :)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: RandyMistie on June 02, 2014, 11:39:52 PM
No, even as the Mountain dies, the Prince of Dorn died first, (very badly) The gods have spoken... DAMNIT!  He can't kill Tyrion! Fuck you, George R. R. Martin, you fuck!

I gotta tell ya, there were many times when I threw the books across the room and refused to read them anymore! In fact, I haven't read this far in the books, because of my feeling of impending dread and anxiety that Ar Ar Martin creates.... fucker!

The Red Wedding??!!! That's where I stopped reading.

I am tellin' ya's if he kills Tyrion I am done with this series, I'm serious....

It is excellent writing, of course, I just get too invested.... is all...
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Post by: lassieface on June 03, 2014, 05:08:56 PM
Cersei (and some book readers)

(https://i.imgur.com/vdP9iDb.gif)
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on June 03, 2014, 05:50:41 PM
Y'know, I gotta say, given that the Mountain's abdominal muscles were probably shredded to shit by that spear to the midsection, I can't say Oberyn was all THAT unreasonable for thinking he wouldn't be able to get up, much less crush him to death.  Generally, that's a pretty safe bet.

Still should have fucking finished him off.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 04, 2014, 05:41:05 PM


Punchline: Lena Headey posted this photo to her instagram last month.

She is a master level troll.

(http://i.imgur.com/gdXzPB6.png)
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Post by: RandyMistie on June 09, 2014, 02:01:03 PM
It was a Tolkienesque battle scene. Very powerful, but with staggering odds against The Night's Watch. As I read I had a hot ball in the pit of my stomach.

Tolkien is poetic and epic, a tale of heroes and hobbits, Ar Ar is awful and pornographic and evil.... Not that I have anything against porno or Evil, or even awfulness.  But, it is fun to read some Tolkien after Ar AR, to cleanse the palate...
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 14, 2014, 07:31:54 PM
Tomorrow is Father's Day.

 :clap: Well played, D&D
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 14, 2014, 09:42:36 PM
I think Jon is a far more interesting character in the books because you have a much better idea of who he is, and what he represents in the series.  The show has totally ignored his background.  While it is nothing but a theory for book readers, it's a very very strong theory.

As for the past episode, It was quite good, but they should have trimmed a bit here and there so they could finish the Wall story in this episode.  There's way too much to cover in this last episode, even if it is 15 minute longer than other episodes. 

Or, rather than trim it, they should have made like the books and had the Wildling skirmish at Castle Black earlier in the season, and dedicated this episode entirely to the assault on the Wall itself.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 15, 2014, 04:47:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/fgwqIyWKdUI
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 15, 2014, 07:42:25 PM
You screwed up show.  You had one job and you screwed it up by cutting one of the most important scenes in the book so you could fill the time with more crap that didn't need to be there.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 15, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
I heard; no Lady Stoneheart?

Honestly, I have no issues with that.  I think even the book had the reveal too soon, and if they're holding the reveal to when Brienne meets her, then all the better.  That's when I think the book reveal should have been.

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Post by: lassieface on June 15, 2014, 09:57:46 PM
I heard; no Lady Stoneheart?

I wanted it so bad.
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Post by: JimJ on June 15, 2014, 10:44:49 PM
...no "and probably Moon Boy for all I know"? Hm...

Moon Boy doesn't exist in show world.

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Post by: JimJ on June 15, 2014, 11:33:25 PM
The Kettleblacks aren't a thing on the show either, and Lancel might as well not be in it.  I don't think we've seen or heard of him since season 2.   I'm not even daring to hope that we get
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next season, though I would love to see it.
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Post by: wurwolf on June 16, 2014, 01:14:26 PM
There is the likelihood that Lady Stoneheart will not make an appearance at all:

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Game Of Thrones director explains why that character wasn’t in the finale—you know the one

Chief among complaints about last night’s Game Of Thrones finale—complaints that give away major events for those who, like me, have yet to read the books, but are nevertheless reading and writing articles about it today like it’s their job—was the absence of Lady Stoneheart, a character who makes her first appearance in the epilogue to George R.R. Martin’s A Storm Of Swords. The resurrected, zombified version of Catelyn Stark that will now no longer be a surprise to me was expected by many to pop up this season, not least because Lena Headey’s spoiler-filled Instagram seemed to hint at it. But of course, she did not, and today director Alex Graves is making the rounds to explain why.

Speaking to Vulture, Graves said that he first asked aloud about Lady Stoneheart during his third-season episode featuring Beric Dondarrion—the Brotherhood Without Banners leader who is Lady Stoneheart’s creator—only to have showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss say, “Oh, yeah, you know, that’s a whole thing that we’re just not sure what we’re going to do about.” As Graves tells both Vulture and Entertainment Weekly, they’re still unsure. “It was never going to be in the season,” he says, “yet it took off on the Internet like it was going to happen.”

Besides wanting, as always, to upset the Internet, the Game Of Thrones team had other reasons for keeping the character out of play. They already had a whole mess of concurrent storylines to keep track of, for one thing, but also: “To bring back Michelle Fairley, one of the greatest actresses around, to be a zombie for a little while—and just kill people?” Graves says to EW. “It is really sort of, what are we doing with that? How does it play into the whole story in a way that we’re really going to like?”

As to whether they’ll figure out a satisfactory way to incorporate Lady Stoneheart by next season, Graves doesn’t know—or, at least, he’s very good at insisting that he’s been kept in the dark. In the meantime, he also offers his thoughts on The Hound’s fate (“as I told the story … he’s gone. How is he going to survive that?”), those five expensive days it took to shoot that skeleton battle sequence, and some other things that won’t give away any major events for non-readers, like a character coming back as a zombie.

http://www.avclub.com/article/game-thrones-explains-why-character-wasnt-finaleyo-205870
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Post by: Bob on June 16, 2014, 05:30:02 PM
Who was that, I assumed dead guy, that a doctor was tagging blood out of and doing some Frankenstein stuff to?  The show made a big deal out of it, but I had no idea.
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Post by: JimJ on June 16, 2014, 05:43:33 PM
Who was that, I assumed dead guy, that a doctor was tagging blood out of and doing some Frankenstein stuff to?  The show made a big deal out of it, but I had no idea.

The Mountain, the guy who "won" the trial by combat. Also not dead, just unconscious. Oberyn's spear was poisoned and he's dying. The Grand Maester thinks it's hopeless but not-a-maester Qyburn disagrees.
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Post by: Bob on June 16, 2014, 05:55:51 PM
Oh, I thought he died.   Thanks
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Post by: Lemming Howard on June 17, 2014, 08:37:19 AM
I'd just like to chime in  to say how impressive the production values have been regarding the scenes of battles or the presence of armies simply marching.  There's one scene where Stannis is simply talking while army is marching on and on in the background conveying a sense of his power.  Also again the latest episode where his mounted forces put in an appearance.  This is something I would expect in a movie and not a TV series.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 17, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
Bunch of weird shit in that last episode.  About the only thing I wasn't conflicted about were Arya's scenes in the last 5 minutes.  Loved the choral version of the main titles music playing over the visuals...even more than I hated the music for The Hound and Brienne fight.

They extended her time with The Hound, but she's right where she should be based on the books.  I thought her leaving Sandor to die was perfectly done.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 17, 2014, 08:09:02 PM
I thin Vary's might take Penny's spot, as someone for Tyrion to talk to.

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Post by: JimJ on June 17, 2014, 09:02:03 PM
As a fellow-slave? That'd be cool. Penny was kind of a waste of time aside, and I love Conleth Hill's Varys.

Hopefully Tyrion's story will be quicker than in the book.

So next season we get...
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Doesn't seem like much meat for a season.

I think they'll probably take care of most of both AFFC and ADWD in the upcoming season.  There's so much stuff in those books that can be cut or shortened.  I'm really looking forward to Cersei's storyline next season.  Her POV chapters in AFFC are a train wreck of paranoid insanity and I'm looking forward to seeing Lena Headey bring that to life.  There's also still a lot of material at the Wall and in Mereen to get to.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 17, 2014, 09:36:58 PM
As a fellow-slave? That'd be cool. Penny was kind of a waste of time aside, and I love Conleth Hill's Varys.

Hopefully Tyrion's story will be quicker than in the book.

So next season we get...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Doesn't seem like much meat for a season.

I think they'll probably take care of most of both AFFC and ADWD in the upcoming season.  There's so much stuff in those books that can be cut or shortened.  I'm really looking forward to Cersei's storyline next season.  Her POV chapters in AFFC are a train wreck of paranoid insanity and I'm looking forward to seeing Lena Headey bring that to life.  There's also still a lot of material at the Wall and in Mereen to get to.

I don't think the show can do it justice though.   One of the best parts of her paranoia in the books was that she is terrified Tyrion is still around.  As Tyrion wasn't in AFFC, we the reader didn't know where he was, which added to the suspense.

HBO won't tell their most popular actor on the show to bugger off for a year, and the audience will know where he is, removing that suspense.
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Post by: JimJ on June 17, 2014, 10:13:32 PM
As a fellow-slave? That'd be cool. Penny was kind of a waste of time aside, and I love Conleth Hill's Varys.

Hopefully Tyrion's story will be quicker than in the book.

So next season we get...
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Doesn't seem like much meat for a season.

I think they'll probably take care of most of both AFFC and ADWD in the upcoming season.  There's so much stuff in those books that can be cut or shortened.  I'm really looking forward to Cersei's storyline next season.  Her POV chapters in AFFC are a train wreck of paranoid insanity and I'm looking forward to seeing Lena Headey bring that to life.  There's also still a lot of material at the Wall and in Mereen to get to.

I don't think the show can do it justice though.   One of the best parts of her paranoia in the books was that she is terrified Tyrion is still around.  As Tyrion wasn't in AFFC, we the reader didn't know where he was, which added to the suspense.

HBO won't tell their most popular actor on the show to bugger off for a year, and the audience will know where he is, removing that suspense.

There was no suspense for me.  I never thought for a second that Tyrion was still there.  He's way too smart to stick around after doing what he did.  I just re-read AFFC and I actually kept thinking that it might read better if Tyrion's chapters from ADWD were included.  On my next re-read I'm considering reading AFFC and ADWD simultaneously using a guide like this (http://boiledleather.com/post/24543217702/a-proposed-a-feast-for-crows-a-dance-with-dragons) for the reading order.
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Post by: RandyMistie on June 18, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Of course, GOT fan/fic is slightly less pornographic than the actual books.... which is quite a switch from most fan/fic....
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Post by: Tripe on June 18, 2014, 01:04:00 PM
Well there's always Game of Bones....
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Post by: wurwolf on June 18, 2014, 05:20:23 PM
I have heard that theory. There are crazier theories out and it is fun to entertain the idea. I love the sheer amount of content people have to work with to come up with their theories. Pages and pages of dialogue that could be foreshadowing what they are talking about. There are lots of really cool interpretations at the Westeros forums. There is also another where
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I've heard this theory, too, and it is my favorite. I don't see how it's unlikely, though.

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Post by: RandyMistie on June 18, 2014, 08:40:13 PM
"From the pages of the greatest serial killer known to man, comes, 'The Game of Thrones'! Part porno, part dungeon master's guide..."

etc...

A friend of mine sent me a link to TrueTrailers.com, I think it was called--- and the True Trailer for GOT had me howling! So funny... I am too tired to try and find it and link it.... look it up...
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Post by: JimJ on June 18, 2014, 08:44:14 PM
I have heard that theory. There are crazier theories out and it is fun to entertain the idea. I love the sheer amount of content people have to work with to come up with their theories. Pages and pages of dialogue that could be foreshadowing what they are talking about. There are lots of really cool interpretations at the Westeros forums. There is also another where
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I've heard this theory, too, and it is my favorite. I don't see how it's unlikely, though.

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Post by: RandyMistie on June 18, 2014, 09:33:25 PM
Correction: it is called Honest Trailer... here is the GOT link:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/04/01/game-of-thrones-honest-trailer/
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 18, 2014, 10:07:11 PM
I want Griff to be fake, but don't think he is.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: wurwolf on June 19, 2014, 08:39:21 AM
It hasn't been confirmed that young Griff is a fake, and Im's 500 page red herring theory sounds right. I am just going on what I've seen around and what I think is probably true --

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Post by: wurwolf on June 19, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
Forgot about the mummer's dragon prophecy, that's a really good point.
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Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 19, 2014, 07:48:46 PM
Don't get me wrong, I would love for it to be true. I just don't want to get caught up in expectation. Fingers crossed, though.
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The Tyrion theory just comes off as weak.  More wish fullfilment by fans than.  Fans think Bran is going to eventually going to warg into a Dragon, but we know he's not a Targaryan. 

I think there is more to the theory that Dario is Euron, or that the new Septon in King's Landing is Howland Reed, than to Tyrion being a Targaryan.

As for Jon
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Post by: wurwolf on June 20, 2014, 04:50:30 AM
Well if that's true

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Post by: ShadowDog on June 21, 2014, 01:20:06 AM
Correction: it is called Honest Trailer... here is the GOT link:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/04/01/game-of-thrones-honest-trailer/

That is the best thing ever. Hard to believe it got completely ignored
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Rainbow Dash on June 23, 2014, 08:36:22 PM
Rumors are abuzz that Tom Wlaschiha will be returning to the show next season.  Many are speculating that he will be replacing Arya's teacher in Bravos (though some fans think her teacher in Bravos was Jaquen the whole time).
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on June 23, 2014, 09:06:52 PM
Rumors are abuzz that Tom Wlaschiha will be returning to the show next season.  Many are speculating that he will be replacing Arya's teacher in Bravos (though some fans think her teacher in Bravos was Jaquen the whole time).

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Post by: The Lurker on October 01, 2014, 07:36:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/WcfjLVG.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/2WYQtw1.jpg?1)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Ortega on October 05, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
just gonna leave this sitting right here....

https://www.youtube.com/v/Wro0VE6i-XM
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Post by: RandyMistie on October 06, 2014, 04:13:36 AM
According to data gathered from the U.S. Census Bureau, as of last year, one of the most popular girls names in America is... wait for it... "Khaleesi"! Yes, that's right. Americans are naming a top percentile of their girls after a made up title, (not even a name!).

I mean, I like the character too... but her actual name is... oh what the hell, why do I even bother! You're gonna do whatever you wannna do anyways! Youngun's!

I'm a grumpy old man! My beard is white, my teeth are grey, I'm old...
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Soguru on October 13, 2014, 04:22:59 AM
I just watched the very first episode of the series and I gotta say I'm confused as hell. Are there any readings i should have done beforehand? I'm just not sure I even like the series at all.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Soguru on October 13, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
What is confusing you?
Who are those... um... glowy eye guys? Who's that blonde girl whose given to eye shadow guy? What the hell do they have to do with not King Sean Bean? I just have a hard time being able to tell these people apart because I don't think they were completely and properly introduced. It's hard for me to enjoy a show when I have to take notes.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: RoninFox on October 13, 2014, 10:51:23 AM
What is confusing you?
Who are those... um... glowy eye guys? Who's that blonde girl whose given to eye shadow guy? What the hell do they have to do with not King Sean Bean? I just have a hard time being able to tell these people apart because I don't think they were completely and properly introduced. It's hard for me to enjoy a show when I have to take notes.

It took me awhile to keep people straight too, but it gets easier as the plotlines unfold. By the middle of the season I was pretty much set.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: RandyMistie on October 20, 2014, 05:10:10 AM
Imrahil, you don't like me, I like you... but you say ONLY 142 girls named "Khalessi" I say, Two is too much..." That's all I'm sayin'

Peace out!
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Soguru on October 25, 2014, 07:30:12 PM
Okay, I grinded my way through season 1. For the colossal amount of exposition in each episode, something about the show makes me want to keep watching. I was disappointed that the finale had little to no closure though.

Don't get me wrong. I love Peter Dinklage as Tyrion(Ah-ha! I finally remembered a name!) and Robb Stark. I was disappointed that
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I was also surprised so many other main characters came and went throughout this season.

The main thing that turns me off is that too many characters make me so angry I want to pull them through the damn TV screen and just kick their asses. I realize it's just a TV show, but even in a fictional capacity I'm not a big fan of the portrayal of injustices.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Soguru on October 26, 2014, 01:31:34 PM
I find that to a man the TV versions of the characters are all more likeable than their book counterparts. So I wouldn't suggest reading the books.  Book Cersei is a huge cunthammer.
Now that's saying something, and I already despise her as she is.
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Post by: jonalame on October 26, 2014, 03:00:21 PM
I love reading Cersei. She is just so arrogantly convinced that she is outsmarting everyone.
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Post by: jonalame on April 13, 2015, 11:01:30 PM
I finally saw the first episode on GO. As a rabid fan of the books, I actually liked how they are streamlining everything.
Book/Show spoilers!
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One thing, I thought there was manufactured conflict between Brienne and Pod. Come on! Be nice to Pod!
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Post by: jonalame on April 20, 2015, 01:03:47 PM
I'm just going to try and give a stream of consciousness one comment per line thing so I don't ramble.

Arya story arc progress! Yuss!

Unexpected tavern meeting! It feels good to have departures from the book like this when they are executed this well.

Great Samwell speech.

Khaleesi, why you do this?

The guy playing Doran Martell has quite a presence.

As much as I like their dialogue together, please don't keep Tyrion and Varys in that "box" for much longer.

Jaime and Bronn... are going to Dorne? Oh, dear.
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Post by: RandyMistie on April 29, 2015, 12:47:18 PM
Yes, There several times throughout the reading of the books, in which I threw them across the room and vowed never to read another word.

Martin is cruel. Always, I would pick it back up again.

There was an SNL sketch in which one of the actors played Martin being interviewed by a female anchor

"Were are the new books, George, we've been waiting for so long...."

"Frankly," the Martin character says, "I'm written out. I just got sloppy on the names" Rob Stark, John Snow, the white walkers came to me because I saw some white people walking in the park one day.... I don't know..."

"Well, can you give us a preview of some things that happen in the next book?"

"OK" the actor playing Martin says, "All of the characters you love... will die... and there is something really amazing coming.... like you wouldn't believe!"

"Is it Winter, George?"

Hangs his head, "Yes. Yes... winter is coming..."

"Oh, George..." she says dismissing him, "Next up President Obama in a pickle..." etc... it was hilarious.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: JimJ on June 08, 2015, 01:08:27 AM
I think I now hate Stannis more than I hated Joffrey.  That was fucking brutal. Considering just rooting for The White Walkers at this point.

Next week should be really good if they hit all of the notes from the books that I expect them to.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on June 08, 2015, 01:52:12 PM
Stannis has become Agamemnon.
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Post by: jonalame on June 08, 2015, 08:11:14 PM
You also missed Dany making new, worse decisions.
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Post by: The Lurker on June 22, 2015, 08:33:12 AM
http://www.adweek.com/galleycat/bantam-to-publish-an-official-game-of-thrones-coloring-book/105466 (http://www.adweek.com/galleycat/bantam-to-publish-an-official-game-of-thrones-coloring-book/105466)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: goflyblind on May 05, 2016, 04:24:45 PM
ha!

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Post by: JimJ on May 22, 2016, 08:52:40 PM
Hold the door  :'(
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Post by: goflyblind on May 23, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
Hold the door  :'(

here's something happier:

(http://i.imgur.com/DDI1iwr.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Lemming Howard on June 21, 2016, 09:31:12 AM
Something has changed.  The Characters I'm rooting for are winning as of episode nine. At the end of episode seven I was actually cheering.
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Post by: Lemming Howard on June 21, 2016, 09:40:13 AM
Also I thought Ramsey's Banners looked kinda of self-hating British.  Were the writers commenting on the Brexited movement?
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on June 23, 2016, 12:36:23 PM
Ah Ramsay Bolton, there are few people more evil, even in real history.
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Post by: goflyblind on June 23, 2016, 02:11:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/G8PB8P1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yDMZ1yj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1ncufcu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/69Ikjw1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FuLaN2o.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7XGuDC6.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on September 02, 2016, 12:03:18 AM
Although I'm still not a big GOT fan, I found some of the events of this past season to be quite satisfying. Unfortunately I can't say them without spoiler tags so here we go.
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on September 26, 2017, 08:25:41 PM
Okay I just finished season 7 and I really liked it, it had some great, epic moments, such as
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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 27, 2017, 12:32:03 PM
I actually thought this season was a bit weaker.  The last episode was pretty good but over all, there weren't really a lot of surprises from a show known for actual surprises.  Part of the problem is most of the surviving cast has plot armor, meaning most of them are going to survive at least until the last few episodes to finish their arcs.  Hey, I don't need characters to die for no reason and there's much more to this show than shock value but much of the seasons arc feels a bit perfunctory.  Hopefully they can pull off the last season well, now that they have their pieces in place.

My one hope is that the
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is taken care of early in the next season.  It's a pretty boring "good vs. evil" battle, which to me is almost antithetical to Game of Thrones' ethos that most of the cast is a lot more complicated than good or evil (you know, except certain dudes like Joffrey and Ramsey and Euron, who feels like the closest this show has ever gotten to having a straight up WWF villain in the series.  Good vs. evil is great for Lord of the Rings, but Game of Thrones best moments come from trying to navigate politics, strategy and the character's own values.  Its a world where good guys don't get rewarded for being good, or at least it was for much of the series.  I'd much rather see the characters try to deal with each other than the big bad.  It will be interesting to see what happens the day after the end of the world.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on September 27, 2017, 12:44:23 PM
I don't know about everyone else but I really hope some very bad things are in store for Cersei. She's had her fun and now it's time for the queen you love to hate to kick the bucket. Considering all she's done (Especially with what happened to the sept), Justice is long overdue for her.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Imrahil on September 27, 2017, 03:28:46 PM
I actually really loved this season. It was my favorite of the show. For the first time, pretty much, I gave a shit about what happened beyond the Wall. I liked seeing the payoff of the contracting character circles; seeing the "Magnificent Seven" in the North was fantastic--the history between the characters coming out in the dialog, etc.

Tormund better have survived the Wall.  Him and Beric, oh sweet-voiced flame-sworded Beric.

Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: anais.butterfly on September 27, 2017, 04:05:13 PM
I Love Cersei. I think she deserves comeuppance but NOTHING she has done is worse than what male leaders have done in reality and in the GOT universe.

I read a great article that points out that every season up until this past one was more historically realistic, as in historical fiction, but this last season was a more sensationalized fantasy for multiple reasons but including the concept that all the current players are not going to die until the very end. I think a lot of it has to do with Martin not have detailed outlines of how to end his magnum opus, but I still think the overall product is and will be enjoyable. :)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on September 27, 2017, 06:59:41 PM
Tormund better have survived the Wall.  Him and Beric, oh sweet-voiced flame-sworded Beric.
Yeah I hope Tormund survived too, otherwise Brienne is going to be broken-hearted.  :(
I also forgot to mention I loved that
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Post by: Imrahil on September 27, 2017, 07:54:48 PM
Yeah, I pretty much loved everything about the season except Cersei and Euron.  That guy can go fuck an icicle.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on September 27, 2017, 08:17:41 PM
Yeah I hate Euron too.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 28, 2017, 05:43:32 AM
seeing the "Magnificent Seven" in the North was fantastic--the history between the characters coming out in the dialog, etc.

This was easily my favourite part of the season.  I feel like the show has been going a little too far in fan service and trying to give fans what they want to see, that the actual story sometimes suffered for it.  Here, though, it was the best of both worlds.  As you said, the history and even though it turned out that
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it doesn't take away from the powerful emotional scene between her and Tyrion.  As horrifying as Cersei is, this scene allowed us to see her as not just an ambitious Lady MacBeth-type and give her a lot more complexity.

That said, I was a little disappointed that the show didn't decide to have

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: anais.butterfly on September 29, 2017, 07:57:39 AM
Euron is a perfect example of how....not as talented the TV show people are vs. Martin. They created a bad guy and give him no depth ONLY so he can assist our true villain who is awesome and has been well developed up until this past season. Euron is not getting more development in the tv show.


Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Imrahil on September 29, 2017, 10:24:42 AM
Euron's a shitbag in the books too. If anything, the TV characters are all more likeable than their literary counterparts.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 29, 2017, 11:31:13 AM
I think Euron is supposed to be hosting the Westeros version of the Piper's Pit.

Also, I'm beginning to think there's some sort of rule that the show has to have at least one super villain with no redeeming qualities whatsoever and Euron happens to be the most ridiculous of them.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on September 29, 2017, 11:46:18 AM
I watched the two episodes that Rifftrax covered.  I don't really want to follow this show, and sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't.  It's too sad for me, and I don't like sad things.  I watch TV to feel good and watch good triumph over evil.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Kete on September 29, 2017, 01:43:55 PM
Is it just me, or is it weird how quickly everyone has been travelling in the show?  I think it started when Varys was suddenly moving between Westeros and Easteros. Now everyone is doing it.  The Unsullied are here, now they're there.  Jon's in the North, now the South, now the North, now the South.  People keep popping up in places where they shouldn't be, and it often seems like it's the next day.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Johnny Unusual on September 29, 2017, 02:36:05 PM
Yeah, it's pretty inconsistent, especially since it took characters a long time to get from here to there in previous season.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on September 29, 2017, 02:54:40 PM
I watched the two episodes that Rifftrax covered.  I don't really want to follow this show, and sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't.  It's too sad for me, and I don't like sad things.  I watch TV to feel good and watch good triumph over evil.
I understand where you're coming from. It took a long time, but eventually the good guys prevailed.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on September 29, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
I watched the two episodes that Rifftrax covered.  I don't really want to follow this show, and sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't.  It's too sad for me, and I don't like sad things.  I watch TV to feel good and watch good triumph over evil.
I understand where you're coming from. It took a long time, but eventually the good guys prevailed.

If they're still making new episodes of the show, you don't know that.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on September 29, 2017, 03:39:25 PM
I watched the two episodes that Rifftrax covered.  I don't really want to follow this show, and sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't.  It's too sad for me, and I don't like sad things.  I watch TV to feel good and watch good triumph over evil.
I understand where you're coming from. It took a long time, but eventually the good guys prevailed.
If they're still making new episodes of the show, you don't know that.
They are as of now currently prevailing.
Title: I changed the subject line because 2011 was 6 years ago.
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on September 29, 2017, 03:52:58 PM
Anyway, here are some interesting Game of Thrones related videos.

I think I like the official opening better.

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I love a good supercut.

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This explains why I get so many lamps from strangers.

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Some people have amazing Minecraft skills.

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Good guy.  Very giving.

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Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: anais.butterfly on September 29, 2017, 05:17:19 PM
I watched the two episodes that Rifftrax covered.  I don't really want to follow this show, and sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't.  It's too sad for me, and I don't like sad things.  I watch TV to feel good and watch good triumph over evil.
I understand where you're coming from. It took a long time, but eventually the good guys prevailed.
If they're still making new episodes of the show, you don't know that.
They are as of now currently prevailing.

There are plenty of awesome battles that the good guys have prevailed over, but I completely understand. That is exactly why I didn't want to watch it for so long, plus the op-eds on the rape scenes. That being said, I am currently enjoying it. I would recommend waiting until the end though. I loathe not binge-watching shows.
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Post by: Ortega on September 30, 2017, 08:51:18 AM

I have a theory about Jamie.  I'm not sure how right i might be about it, but i think it might happen. 

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With Jamie where he is in the show right now, i don't know how right i am, but i think it males thematic sense.
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Post by: Imrahil on September 30, 2017, 10:38:23 PM
Yeah, that last part has been pretty telegraphed to me for awhile.
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Post by: Russoguru on October 01, 2017, 01:08:16 AM
I want to see a scene next season where Sansa and Arya execute judgement on Jaime for crippling Bran.
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 02, 2017, 05:51:32 AM
The funny thing is
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Post by: Russoguru on October 02, 2017, 10:05:58 AM
I'm curious. Regarding the events of this past season... do you think Jaime and Cersei are growing apart? I tend to think so, given that it seemed like Cersei was about to have the Mountain execute Jaime in that one episode.  :o
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 04, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
I'm curious. Regarding the events of this past season... do you think Jaime and Cersei are growing apart? I tend to think so, given that it seemed like Cersei was about to have the Mountain execute Jaime in that one episode.  :o

Oh, there's no question.  That's like asking "Hey, are Joffrey and Ramsey just a little bit... dickish to you?"  Jaime has slowly been growing more sympathetic over the course of the season, coming a long way from the man who does the worst thing at the end of the first episode.  He's gained sympathy for people outside of his family while Cersei is doubling down on the "the only important thing is my family and fuck everyone else" attitude after the loss of so much family.  Funny, since that attitude is both what cost her so much family and continues to drive a wedge in it.
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Post by: Russoguru on October 04, 2017, 11:42:48 AM
Now that you mention it, she does seem pretty self-destructive. Make me wonder if in the end she's going to take her own life.
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Post by: Lemming Howard on October 05, 2017, 04:21:11 PM
I rather think Jaime will take her and then his own life.
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Post by: Russoguru on October 05, 2017, 07:43:49 PM
That would be interesting.
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Post by: Imrahil on October 06, 2017, 08:51:32 AM
I hope that's not the way it goes.

Jaime + Brienne forevah
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Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 06, 2017, 11:30:36 AM
I rather think Jaime will take her and then his own life.

If you want to go the perfect circle, then I expect
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Post by: RVR II on October 06, 2017, 11:40:00 AM
Ok so I haven't been following this show and just added the first 6 seasons to my Netflix DVD queue..
Is it really as good as people say it is ???
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 06, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
It took me a while to get into it, but yeah, it really is.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on October 06, 2017, 12:23:15 PM
GOT takes a while to get going. I didn't really like the first few seasons that much. I think six and seven were the best by far.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Pastor of Muppets on October 06, 2017, 12:24:52 PM
The title of this thread is strange.  It uses the future tense to refer to something that happened 6 years ago.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Johnny Unusual on October 06, 2017, 02:41:12 PM
That's what happens when threads are old.  I'm sure in 8 years, the thread for Disenchantment (https://media.netflix.com/en/press-releases/netflix-announces-disenchantment-a-new-epic-fantasy-animated-series-from-matt-groening) will be "New Matt Groening Cartoon Coming Soon!".
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on October 06, 2017, 06:11:02 PM
The title of this thread is strange.  It uses the future tense to refer to something that happened 6 years ago.
Well I didn't want to start a new thread, I thought I'd rather just revive the original one.
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: goflyblind on October 07, 2017, 11:20:26 AM
I hope that's not the way it goes.

Jaime + Brienne forevah

(https://i.imgur.com/zn15Knl.gif)
Title: Re: "Game of Thrones" - HBO Series Coming in 2011
Post by: Russoguru on October 07, 2017, 12:41:54 PM
Yeah Tormund would be pissed. All joking aside I just can't see Tormund fighting Jaime over Brienne.
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Post by: Imrahil on October 07, 2017, 07:28:29 PM
I also don't think she's interested and there's enough rapiness on the show as it is.