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Title: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on February 02, 2007, 09:16:02 PM
Who's familiar with Doctor Who, scifi's edition and/or the classic ones?

Who is your favorite Dr.? Least favorite? What do you like about the show? What about it bugs you?

Personally, I enjoy it, but I think their scientific explanations for the seemingly supernatural can get a little lame. Case in point, the hemovores in "Curse of Fenric" are hurt by faith, because it creates a "psychic barrier". Pardon? That's not an explanation, that's just a phrase. How? Are they involuntary mind readers who, because of their unique condition, find faith to be abhorrent? Is it that faith sets off some unconcious emotional telepathy which happens to scramble these guys and there nervous systems? Does it create a telepathic white noise that disrupts their senses? What?! ><


Thoughts?
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Post by: mrbasehart on February 02, 2007, 09:47:08 PM
Dr Who never appealed to me.  I'm not entirely sure why, because I'm English and a Sci-Fi nerd, so one would assume it would be perfect.  I think it might be that I can't get over the bad effects, they destroy all suspension of disbelief for me.  I've seen some of the new ones (Eccleston only, not Tenant) and while they were OK, I never really found them all that brilliant. 
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on February 02, 2007, 10:22:09 PM
Well, never be too quick to dismiss the series. It's so long running, and with the different lead actors, I recommend sampling at least one from every color season to try it out.
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Post by: starfighter on February 02, 2007, 11:03:17 PM
  I have boxes of tapes from public television's edited into movie-length episodes of the original series and have enjoyed the new series shown on SciFi.  It took until this week's 2nd episode of "Heroes" with the invisible man, before I recognized him as Eccleston from the first season of the new Who.
    The original series is famous in spite of its cheesiness and seems to have a much older fan-base here in the States.  I can't imagine watching this at 5:00 PM on Saturday after all the years that I've been used to it being practically a midnight show here on either a Friday, Saturday or Sunday night.
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Post by: BathTub on February 03, 2007, 07:46:10 AM
Never watched the old stuff, but quite enjoying the new show. It's better than Torchwood anyway.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 12:41:10 PM
ive always wanted to see them both.  the new and the old.  its so sad.  How many seasons of the old one are there and are they easily available?
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Post by: BathTub on February 03, 2007, 01:01:12 PM
like 26, and I think it varies.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 01:01:55 PM
26 seasons GAAAH!!!!  so much for me buying the series
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on February 03, 2007, 03:19:32 PM
Well, there's a reason why. It's the longest running scifi television serial in existance, probably the longest running television serial of any kind.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 03:47:20 PM
huh so it is

http://www.answers.com/topic/longest-running-tv-shows

Its weird though they dont count things like as the world turns which is 50 years old or all my children
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Post by: Thom_Serveaux on February 03, 2007, 07:04:01 PM
26 seasons GAAAH!!!!  so much for me buying the series
Oh I'm sure that there's a DVD box set around somewhere....
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Post by: mrbasehart on February 03, 2007, 07:05:15 PM
26 seasons GAAAH!!!!  so much for me buying the series
Oh I'm sure that there's a DVD box set around somewhere....

Actually, I believe they edit the parts of the stories into feature length versions.
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Post by: Rude on February 03, 2007, 07:09:26 PM
Oh I'm sure that there's a DVD box set around somewhere....

Funny, i was just talking about this with a friend of mine the other day. Amazon recommended him the entire Dr. Who series on DVD. We joked that there were so many discs that the set should come in it's own limited edition, full-sized TARDIS~

-Rude
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Post by: Thom_Serveaux on February 03, 2007, 07:25:49 PM
Oh I'm sure that there's a DVD box set around somewhere....

Funny, i was just talking about this with a friend of mine the other day. Amazon recommended him the entire Dr. Who series on DVD. We joked that there were so many discs that the set should come in it's own limited edition, full-sized TARDIS~

-Rude
Yeah, but then you could go back in time and watch while they were originally being broadcast...
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 07:41:59 PM
damn and now im being left out of jokes.  Thats horrible.  My nerdiness is ashamed
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Post by: Thom_Serveaux on February 03, 2007, 07:51:03 PM
Hey, it was you that decided to get a life, now you must suffer the consequences...
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Post by: lefty081577 on February 04, 2007, 10:06:31 PM
the complete box set is incomplete, there are quit a few lost episodes from the original runs, i luv the show, old and new(i usta stay up all night watching it when pbs would run pledge drive dr who marathons, as for the new series i luv that to, but think tenant is a better dr.
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Post by: PsypherPunk on February 05, 2007, 05:51:19 AM
I love Dr. Who, always have. Personally I think either William Hartnell or Colin Baker were the worst. Hartnell wasn't specifically bad, but the series just doesn't compare well to those that followed. Colin Baker, however, was mostly forgettable. Sylvester McCoy, at his peak, was the best Doctor IMO. He could be downright creepy at times.
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Post by: dignan on February 05, 2007, 07:34:04 AM
When I was a kid, my older brother loved Doctor Who and I was scared to death of it.  I don't even think I ever actually watched the show, I was just freaked out by the theme music.  I didn't plan on watching the new Who, but a friend got me watching the Father's Day episode, and then I caught the "Are you my mummy" episode, and I eventually got around to getting Eccleston's season on DVD.  But for whatever reason, I still didn't watch it.  Several months later (actually, a few weeks ago), I was bored one night and had nothing else to watch, so I finally started watching the DVDs, and I was hooked pretty quickly.  I bought the David Tennant season on DVD the day it came out.  It's a fun show, definitely a little goofy, but it reminds me a lot of the first couple seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, just in its general attitude of cheekiness toward the strange and unusual occurances that happen. 

As I've only seen the Eccleston and Tennant seasons, I feel I can't really comment on who my favorite Doctor is.  I liked both of them though.   
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Post by: Rude on February 05, 2007, 09:49:07 AM
When I was a kid, my older brother loved Doctor Who and I was scared to death of it.  I don't even think I ever actually watched the show, I was just freaked out by the theme music.

My mom was pregnant when Dr. Who started aring out in the Midwest, and she used to get morning sickness during the show.
To this day that theme song still makes her feel ill...

Too much information? Sorry~

-Rude
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Post by: starfighter on March 10, 2007, 09:21:33 PM
    Just wanted to mention that tonight march 10,  iowa public television showed the first two Christopher Eccleston Doctor Who episodes as part of pledge week, but mentioned that they would be adding them to their regular schedule soon.   It's the first time I've seen any PBS stations showing the new series and although I've already seen them on the SciFi Channel, it will be nice to see them uncut and commercial free.
      I know the Doctor doesn't play on as many public stations as it used to, but the Iowa network has shown it consistently for more than 20 years.
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Post by: tinnyman on March 11, 2007, 12:13:09 AM
the complete box set is incomplete, there are quit a few lost episodes from the original runs, i luv the show, old and new(i usta stay up all night watching it when pbs would run pledge drive dr who marathons, as for the new series i luv that to, but think tenant is a better dr.

I may be wrong on some details, but I believe in the 70's many episodes of old BBC shows including Doctor Who were destroyed or stolen. For some reason the BBC only kept single copies of it's shows in one location. Some shows were actually destoyed on purpose, just to make room. Basically, they just decided to record over there own tapes. They were fortunate to recover many of the shows from Australia and Canada. I'm not quite sure what the BBC was thinking. Now the BBC's resorting to doing things like using software to recreate missing frames of the show from poor 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation copies of the shows they so haphhazardly erased.
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Post by: Sharktopus on March 11, 2007, 01:01:12 AM
How might an American neophyte go about introducing himself to Doctor Who? The sheer volume of material is overwhelming.
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Post by: PsypherPunk on March 11, 2007, 05:52:25 AM
How might an American neophyte go about introducing himself to Doctor Who? The sheer volume of material is overwhelming.

To many (especially in America I'm told), the Tom Baker era is considered the 'classic' Doctor. I'd start there - possibly with Planet of the Spiders which is actually a good series and ends with the Third Doctor's (Jon Pertwee) regeneration into the Fourth (Tom Baker). Some personal favourites in the Fourth Doctor's era are: The Ark in Space, Genesis of the Daleks and Pyramids of Mars.
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Post by: starfighter on March 11, 2007, 07:39:16 AM
   They say everybody's favorite Doctor is the first one you saw.  I'll go along with the end of Pertwee into the first few years of Tom Baker because of my favorite companion, Sarah Jane Smith.  They even brought the actress and character back in season two of the New Doctor.
   As much as I like Tom,  the new show has been spectacular with the BBC seeming to spend as much per episode as they used to for a full season.

    Iowa Public tv showed the first two Eccleston episodes last night;  one pledge break in the middle of "Rose" and "End of the World" break-free.  No SciFi Channel commercials or crawls or voice-overs on the closing credits.  Plus they will be running the Doctor Who Confidential shorts of behind the scenes stuff with each episode to help fill out the hour.  Has anybody bought the DVDs? Do they have the Confidential backstage stuff along with the episodes?  Unfortunately, the DVDs are out of my price range and although I recorded them all off SciFi I'm planning to make better copies from my PBS.
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Post by: mrbasehart on March 11, 2007, 07:51:55 AM
   They say everybody's favorite Doctor is the first one you saw.  I'll go along with the end of Pertwee into the first few years of Tom Baker because of my favorite companion, Sarah Jane Smith.  They even brought the actress and character back in season two of the New Doctor.
 

I believe she has her own spin-off series, though it's primarily for kids.
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Post by: dignan on March 13, 2007, 05:16:43 AM
   They say everybody's favorite Doctor is the first one you saw.  I'll go along with the end of Pertwee into the first few years of Tom Baker because of my favorite companion, Sarah Jane Smith.  They even brought the actress and character back in season two of the New Doctor.
   As much as I like Tom,  the new show has been spectacular with the BBC seeming to spend as much per episode as they used to for a full season.

    Iowa Public tv showed the first two Eccleston episodes last night;  one pledge break in the middle of "Rose" and "End of the World" break-free.  No SciFi Channel commercials or crawls or voice-overs on the closing credits.  Plus they will be running the Doctor Who Confidential shorts of behind the scenes stuff with each episode to help fill out the hour.  Has anybody bought the DVDs? Do they have the Confidential backstage stuff along with the episodes?  Unfortunately, the DVDs are out of my price range and although I recorded them all off SciFi I'm planning to make better copies from my PBS.

The Confidential shorts are all on the DVDs, and they're collected so you can watch them individually or all at once. 
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Post by: PsypherPunk on March 15, 2007, 09:57:45 AM
I grew up with Tom Baker. I think the first batch of US-syndicated episodes hit PBS in the early 80s, and the package started with "Robot" (Baker's first ep).  I can remember seeing it on easter in...oh, 1981 or 82?

As for the new show, I don't like it as much. ...I'd say 1 in 3 is worth watching more than once.

Heh...I'm watching Robot as we speak. Great stuff.

To be honest the new series is a mixed bag. While I think that both Eccleston and Tennant have been stellar as The Doctor, the series is a little soulless at times. Sadly, I think that's just a reflection of the times - the majority of viewers in the iGeneration seem to want something fast, simple and forgettable and the producers still need to sell the program. That said, there's some cracking writing in there at times.

And there's always the Big Finish productions to listen to which are a little more faithful to the old 'style' and well worth a listen.
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Post by: starfighter on March 15, 2007, 03:32:29 PM
   What are the Big Finish productions?   Are those the audio-only stories?  If so, how many of them have there been, which Doctors are represented and are they available through Amazon?   
     Do those include Slipback?  I think that's the right title.  I heard part of it on a public radio station years ago with Colin Baker and Nicola something as Peri, but never did hear the whole thing.
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Post by: Moon Blast on March 15, 2007, 05:25:30 PM
I used to watch the older versions which ever ones those were when i was a child. The recent ones on the sci-fi channel just look down right annoying to me.   
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Post by: PsypherPunk on March 16, 2007, 01:35:27 AM
   What are the Big Finish productions?   Are those the audio-only stories?  If so, how many of them have there been, which Doctors are represented and are they available through Amazon?   
     Do those include Slipback?  I think that's the right title.  I heard part of it on a public radio station years ago with Colin Baker and Nicola something as Peri, but never did hear the whole thing.

Yeah, those are the audio-only ones. There's a full list over at the Big Finish (http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/drwho/index.shtml) website.

There are currently 92 releases in the 'monthly' series, plus assorted others (including the 'Unbound' series with various other actors as The Doctor, including Rifftrax-favourite David Warner).
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Post by: omninaut on March 16, 2007, 09:02:06 PM
Each doctor was good for the time (our time) in which they were introduced. I have fondness for the 2nd and 4th doctors. Though I am a fan of Doctor Who, I do think that a British MST could have a wonderful time at riffing that series.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on March 17, 2007, 12:52:14 PM
I dunno. I thought  the second doctor was a bit flat in his performance.
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Post by: PsypherPunk on March 18, 2007, 03:53:47 AM
I heard another one that featured doctors 5, 6, and 7, and that was pretty good. Had a very Douglas Adams-y feel. 

Might have to listen to that one. I'm planning on working my way through the Eighth Doctor's series - I've always been curious to see what might have been if the TV series had been commissioned back then.
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Post by: Oceaniclost on April 06, 2007, 03:03:23 AM
Here is a website with a COMPLETE timeline for all audios, comics, novels, tv movies, and EVERY episode of Dr. Who.

If you want to watch Dr. Who the right way, go by this!!

Dr. Who timeline (http://www.drwhoguide.com/who.htm)

I just started Dr. Who (2005) and am LOVVVVVING IT!!
I'm just about to start with the older Doctor Who..every episode(even the lost episodes they are trying to recover from only the audios left over)..during the summer.
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Post by: BathTub on April 06, 2007, 03:21:26 AM
Oh forgot about this thread, seems a good place to plug Luke's new song that he released to tie in with the start of the new season.

http://www.thefump.com/embedded_player.swf?fumpID=58
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Post by: dignan on April 06, 2007, 04:06:51 AM
So, anyone see Smith and Jones yet?  I thought it was a pretty decent introduction for Martha Jones.  She's plucky.  I like that.
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Post by: BathTub on April 06, 2007, 05:33:02 AM
I don't think my flatmate has downloaded it yet, I will check when I get home.
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Post by: PsypherPunk on April 07, 2007, 03:55:12 AM
So, anyone see Smith and Jones yet?  I thought it was a pretty decent introduction for Martha Jones.  She's plucky.  I like that.

Yeah, thought it was a pretty good episode. She's certainly less annoying that Piper's constant chants of "Dok-tah!".
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Post by: Oceaniclost on April 15, 2007, 12:33:18 PM
I'm almost up with Season 3. I just finished season 2 episode 10 "Love and Monsters" which was REALLY horrible.
I lOVED season 2 up till now.
All TV shows have bad episodes. here's hoping Season 2 ends nice.

Im so excited to be caught up with Season 3
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Post by: PsypherPunk on April 15, 2007, 01:05:11 PM
I'm almost up with Season 3. I just finished season 2 episode 10 "Love and Monsters" which was REALLY horrible.

You really didn't like that one? I admit the 'villain' of the piece (i.e., Peter Kay, of whom I'm not a big fan) was pretty lacklustre but I felt that the story was strong enough (the average person's obsession with The Doctor - who can't relate to that?) and the overall message sufficiently bittersweet to carry it. Okay, it was done with all the subtlelty of a sledgehammer but that's the 21st Century Doctor for you.

Plus, how can you not love the "...the real world is much stranger than that; it is so much darker, madder, and so much better" refrain?
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Post by: Oceaniclost on April 15, 2007, 04:22:32 PM
I guess it was the villian and the silly ending with the girl
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I really wanted to like that episode.
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 16, 2007, 02:05:31 AM
The recent episode "Gridlock" was awesome!!

I admit I wasn't all that excited about seeing it after watching the previews, but story and execution was flawless!!


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Post by: Douglin on April 17, 2007, 03:07:06 AM
For the love of....!

The Radio Times is the worst when it come to keeping it's mouth shut and letting people be surprised by tv shows.

Season 3 episode 4/5 spoiler....seriously
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On the front cover, millions of people are going to see this in the shops over the next week and I bet it won't even be revealed till the last 30 seconds of episode 4.

They did the same thing with the cybermen in season 2, I know they're trying to get people interested in the show but it would be nice to try and at least maintain a bit of suspense for the fans.  I don't really mind spoilers but I bet this could ruin the episode for some people.

(For those that don't know, the Radio Times is a popular 'tv guide' magazine in the UK)
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 20, 2007, 05:41:22 PM
I hate involuntary spoilers. >.< Ones where instead of saying "The skinny on the new episode of Dr. Who Inside" they just shove it into your face like a street-vendor shoving their wares into your face.
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Post by: Oceaniclost on April 22, 2007, 05:37:17 PM
I'm all caught up now with Season 3.

I loved the "Gridlock" episode.

And so far like the first half of "Dalecks in Manhattan" episode

anyone know what kind of coat the 10th Doctor wears?
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 30, 2007, 08:13:54 AM
anyone know what kind of coat the 10th Doctor wears?

You might have to ask Janis Joplin about that.
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Post by: Oceaniclost on May 20, 2007, 07:31:46 AM
Well, Dr. Who is back from its week break.

Episode "42" was pretty cool. And some good suspense moments.
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Next weeks looks fanomial!!
Scarecrow(like from Batman) type of zombies

I have never watched an OLD Doctor Who before, and I decided to start with Season 12 "Robots"
I've watched Part 1, and I'm liking it!!
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Post by: BathTub on May 20, 2007, 08:04:27 AM
Hmm I probably shouldn't have read that.
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Post by: Oceaniclost on May 20, 2007, 08:58:03 AM
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Hmm I probably shouldn't have read that.

Sorry about that, I'll hide it in spoiler tags.
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Post by: Axeman on May 21, 2007, 02:41:58 AM
Tom Baker was generally regarded as the best Doctor until the new series started, probably due to the fact that he was both wildly eccentric and strangely menacing in turn.  That's why Chrostopher Eccleston got the new DW series off to such a good start, since he got the eccentricity and the menacing down pat.  Tennant is a bit more kooky and less menacing than Eccleston, but still fine and I have to admit that I actually enjoy the show.
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Post by: David on May 21, 2007, 04:49:01 AM
Tom Baker was generally regarded as the best Doctor until the new series started, probably due to the fact that he was both wildly eccentric and strangely menacing in turn.  That's why Chrostopher Eccleston got the new DW series off to such a good start, since he got the eccentricity and the menacing down pat.  Tennant is a bit more kooky and less menacing than Eccleston, but still fine and I have to admit that I actually enjoy the show.

The Doctor sounds a lot like Willy Wonka.
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Post by: BathTub on May 21, 2007, 07:58:48 AM
Oh he is, that would be a very very good description, a Sci Fi Willy Wonka.
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Post by: Haze on June 02, 2007, 12:50:29 PM
Gotta say, tonight's episode was simply fantastic.
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Post by: Tripe on June 02, 2007, 05:29:59 PM
Is anyone out there able to track when the episodes are shown on CBC, that's how I watch it (I have very limited Cable, since I don't watch all that much TV so I don't have Sci-Fi)

The CBC website is terrible for scheduling details.
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Post by: Ortega on June 02, 2007, 09:24:47 PM
i usually get doctor who shows form P2P.   im in the u.s, and i dont feel like waiting 'till fall for the new season.  my workhorse comp crashed so im a little behind, only got up to the daleks in manhattan 2-part-er
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Post by: Oceaniclost on June 05, 2007, 06:01:18 AM
Yeah-

I really liked the second part of Human Nature, "Family of Blood"
Especially liked the punishments the the Doctor handed out to "the family"

Next weeks "Blink" episode looks strange
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Post by: EVOLUTION117 on November 07, 2007, 02:26:05 PM
Well, I just got the third season of the new series and David Tennant is amazing as the Doctor. But now I want to know, what did any of you who have seen it to the end think of John Simm as You know who?
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Post by: Tripe on November 07, 2007, 02:27:30 PM
I wish the other actor who played censored had stuck around for a few episodes.
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Post by: EVOLUTION117 on November 07, 2007, 02:35:54 PM
You mean Professor Yana...or do I.... MUAH HA HA HA HAAA!!!!

[yt=425,350]mGrpx99aIhM[/yt]

Definitely a song to describe the Doctor.  8)
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Post by: PsypherPunk on November 07, 2007, 02:57:38 PM
Well, I just got the third season of the new series and David Tennant is amazing as the Doctor. But now I want to know, what did any of you who have seen it to the end think of John Simm as You know who?

Personally I thought he was bloody irritating. They said the bar high with Sir Derek Jacobi only to have John Simm bounce around the screen afterwards.

However, I do see why they portrayed him that way. He's a decent counterfoil to Tennant's Doctor and as such Jacobi's you-know-who wouldn't have worked as well. But still...
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Post by: Tripe on November 07, 2007, 03:15:01 PM
Ever see that flash animation the BBC did with Jacobi in the same(ish) role and Richard E. Grant as the Doctor?
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on November 07, 2007, 03:20:45 PM
I never really liked You-Know-Who in the old series,
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Post by: Tripe on November 07, 2007, 03:22:57 PM
aw he's my favorite character in Who. Although oddly I liked the second main version more than the first.
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Post by: Tripe on November 07, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
Thant the one, of course he was the actor when i was little so i suppose that's why.
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Post by: Tripe on November 07, 2007, 03:44:54 PM
 :D

Quality. 
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Post by: Sideswipe on November 07, 2007, 04:05:07 PM
I seem to have developed an interest in Dr. Who.  Although I cant seem explain how.
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Post by: Sideswipe on November 07, 2007, 05:29:24 PM
Hmm, I dont know what that is, but I have never seen one before.
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Post by: Chaos on November 08, 2007, 08:52:05 PM
I enjoyed the last season of Dr. Who, but I would have enjoyed it much more if I didn't figure out you-know-who was going to show up at the end of the season way back in the pollution / face of bo episode. It's fantastic to have the Doctor on the air again, and with shiny new graphics (also, Tenant is frickin' awesome as the doctor)... but they're certainly not subtle when they re-incorporate the old villains. It can get a little heavy-handed and predictable at times.

But, oh man, that episode with the stone angels? One of the creepiest, best executed hour of television I have seen in a LONG time.
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Post by: Ortega on November 09, 2007, 12:19:27 AM
Ah..."Blink"

Yeah...one of the best Dr Who episodes of the season.....
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Post by: Chaos on November 09, 2007, 01:37:07 PM
Ah..."Blink"

Yeah...one of the best Dr Who episodes of the season.....

... of all time, IMO. Seriously, it takes a lot to creep me out, and they managed it in a 48 minute TV show. Quite an accomplishment. :)
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 09, 2007, 01:40:31 PM
Blink certainly seems to be a unanimous favorite of everyone who's seen it.

Definitely a top notch episode.
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Post by: Tripe on November 09, 2007, 06:51:24 PM
Ah..."Blink"

Yeah...one of the best Dr Who episodes of the season.....
... of all time, IMO. Seriously, it takes a lot to creep me out, and they managed it in a 48 minute TV show. Quite an accomplishment. :)


According to Taufiq2u, Steven Moffat, who wrote Blink (as well as The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances and The Girl in the Fireplace) will be taking over the reins of the show from RTD so I think we can expect more of the same. Which would be a definite improvement in my book.
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Post by: Ortega on November 09, 2007, 07:14:32 PM
Ah..."Blink"

Yeah...one of the best Dr Who episodes of the season.....
... of all time, IMO. Seriously, it takes a lot to creep me out, and they managed it in a 48 minute TV show. Quite an accomplishment. :)


According to Taufiq2u, Steven Moffat, who wrote Blink (as well as The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances and The Girl in the Fireplace) will be taking over the reins of the show from RTD so I think we can expect more of the same. Which would be a definite improvement in my book.

That's definitely good news, as those are some of my favorites from the new series.
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Post by: Tripe on November 09, 2007, 07:19:54 PM
Honestly if I had to list my top five I think those would be the constituent parts at 1, 2, 4 and 5 with School Reunion as number 3
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Post by: Ortega on November 09, 2007, 07:31:52 PM
Besides the ones already mentioned, I'd pick Dalek, and the Human Nature/Family of Blood two-parter. and maybe The Shakespeare Code
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Post by: Chaos on November 10, 2007, 09:33:25 AM
Ah, the family of blood two-parter was awesome. Especially the end, where the doctor shows how cruel and merciless he can really be when it is required... you really get a sense for how long he has lived and how there is a definite line in the sand... cross him, and you're fucked.

That's fantastic news that Moffat is taking over. I'm really looking forward to the next season. Is there going to be another Christmas episode this year?
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Post by: PsypherPunk on November 10, 2007, 10:18:04 AM
Is there going to be another Christmas episode this year?

Yeah, the Titanic cliffhanger from the end of the last season will get picked up at Xmas. Plus there's the Peter Davidson Children in Need special between now and then.
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Post by: Chaos on November 10, 2007, 09:04:29 PM
Sweet.

Now I just need to get ahold of it over here across the pond. ;)

Same goes for the next live action Discworld miniseries.
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Post by: Zardoz! on November 10, 2007, 11:45:26 PM
I pretty much like the new dr. who, but that one ep, with the people being absorbed by that scottish accented alien had to be the worst  ep of Dr, who EVER!!!!

I missed one ep, the second part of the dalkes in Manhattan one. I wish SFC would have reran it.

I think the new series has done a great job of showing the doctor as suffering from PTSD, which is very realistic given the loss of his race and his possible role in it. The older docs seemed to be somewhat indifferent towards companions, even saying that they chose him and not the other way around. Now, as of the new series, he practically begs every woman he meets to join him. I mean, even that one in the runaway bride.

He's lost his race, he suffered a severe trauma (Do they get any worse?!) and now he's alone. The way he seems so desperate for companions now is a great contrast to his earlier versions, and shows that he really went thru some personality changing events in the interim.

The new series has taken real chances, like having an ep where a Dalek was portrayed as a pitiful, sympathetic character, and the doctor was portrayed as torturing it, and being willing to point a gun at rose to take a shot at it. When the dalek said "You would have made a good dalek", that was a real slap in the face moment.

I was kind of disappointed in the "Daleks meet cybermen" thing as the cyberman were just to easy for the daleks to kill, but the dialog between them was just absolutely perfect, I laughed my ass off.
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Post by: BathTub on November 11, 2007, 12:13:16 AM
Oh hell yes, the Cybermen meeting the Daleks was very very funny.
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Post by: Chaos on November 11, 2007, 07:45:30 AM
Oh hell yes, the Cybermen meeting the Daleks was very very funny.

"We calculate that you are better at one thing. Dying." Classic. :D

Oh, and that episode with the people-absorbing guy? Mostly ruined due to Mark Warren (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0912938/), who was also the SOLE reason that the Hogfather movie was less than perfect, due to his utterly SHITE performance in the role of Mr. Teatime.

(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/8a/200px-Mr_Teatime.jpg)

Like poison, he is.
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Post by: Tripe on November 11, 2007, 07:56:42 AM
Yeah why did he feel the need to have the sub Peewee Herman voice?
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on November 11, 2007, 01:08:29 PM
Ah..."Blink"

Yeah...one of the best Dr Who episodes of the season.....
... of all time, IMO. Seriously, it takes a lot to creep me out, and they managed it in a 48 minute TV show. Quite an accomplishment. :)


According to Taufiq2u, Steven Moffat, who wrote Blink (as well as The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances and The Girl in the Fireplace) will be taking over the reins of the show from RTD so I think we can expect more of the same. Which would be a definite improvement in my book.

I wuvs you =D
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Post by: Tripe on November 11, 2007, 07:52:29 PM
I think Taufiq2u is more deserving of yur wuv as he was the one that told me :)
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Post by: Ortega on November 12, 2007, 09:44:17 PM
I really like Martha a whole lot more than Rose.  Hell, Martha's a freakin doctor.  And from what i've seen, she dosent take alot of the Doctor's BS at face value.  Glad to see he picked an assistant with brains.  And Martha's family isnt near as annoying as Rose's(Shrill-voice and Cotton-mouth, I'm looking at you!).  The only thing in the last season that kinda pissed me off was Martha's infatuation with the Doctor.  I thought her falling in love with him was kinda contrived and forced.
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Post by: Tripe on November 13, 2007, 04:59:25 AM
But yes, I do like her; she's a lot less dumb than Rose was, and a lot less trashy.

And significantly more beautiful. Martha's probably the sexiest companions since Peri (or Sarah Jane if you like that sort of thing)
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Post by: Chaos on November 13, 2007, 05:32:56 AM
I'm looking forward to you getting further in the season, Imrahil - just wait until you see the Family of Blood episode. I'm eager to hear your reaction. It's a fantastic episode, especially the ending. I always get excited when somebody I know is seeing something really awesome for the first time. Kinda sad, I know, but... meh. I yam what I yam. ;)
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 13, 2007, 07:33:54 AM

Gridlock: Colossally stupid idea for an episode.  The problems with the premise really really boggle the mind, but...anyway, this is one where the plot wasn't the point, I guess.  I'm annoyed that it was a 40 minute setup for the last 3 minutes with the Face of Boe, though admittedly the ending with the Doc talking about Gallifrey and the hymn in the background was nice (apparently this is all corroborating stuff that was said elsewhere--I love it when fans get to write shows, they get details like this so right.  Yes, I'm into continuity.).  I just don't like that an episode has to be 35 or 40 minutes of fluff for that one scene.


I gotta disagree. I absolutely love that episode, due mostly to the performance of Ardal O'Hanlon as Brannigan. Who'da thought a man in a cat suit could be so entertaining?!

Though, the thought that so many people would just crawl along at a snail's pace for so darn long is beyond me. They'd all be causing havoc after just ten minutes of that crap. It'd be pandemonium.

Favorite line in that episode: "I've invented a sport!"   ;D
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on November 13, 2007, 08:04:46 AM
Well, aside from the big ending, the entire episode seemed more of a big political whine-fest about how we hurt the environment and pollute the air and in the very near future (new new new new new new new new new new new new new New York  ;D), we'll all be a bunch of rats stuck in our own maze. Not to mention the virus that nearly wiped us all out, that was also of our own making, etc. etc.


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Post by: Tripe on November 13, 2007, 08:06:43 AM
it's just really, really asinine.  It's cartoonish.

And that's my fundermental trouble with the new series there are too many instances that could be described thus. Still there have been some really good ones but a few to many silly stories.

I likes me Who to be creepy with a soupcon of silly.
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Post by: Ortega on November 17, 2007, 03:37:10 PM
Youtubified in case anyone hasn't seen it yet...


[yt=425,350]PtIXg7MzPUY[/yt]
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Post by: Chaos on November 19, 2007, 09:34:47 PM
Well, the only thing to remember about Sec is that his entire purpose for existence is to think "outside the shell" compared to the other Daleks. But outside thinking is inherently foreign to the Daleks, so he could never possibly have had more than limited success at it. His idea was, for a Daleks, quite a good one, and the only way he could see for them to evolve and move forward, by embracing the best traits of the "survivor" species. He didn't just want more Daleks that were exactly the same, he wanted to try to make them more sustainable over time, and his observations told him that becoming more human was the way to do that.

Obviously, the other Daleks didn't care for his logic, so it all went tits up. But it was, at the core, not a bad plan. Especially for a single minded, unchanging race.
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Post by: Zardoz! on November 19, 2007, 09:36:43 PM
Okay, so I watched another couple.

Daleks in Manhattan:

My favorite thing about this episode is that it really feels -big-.  Maybe it's the nicely rendered CGI sckyscrapers, but it feels very cinematic--at least in the nighttime shots. The daytime ones are more obviously modern-day NY or a composite that isn't entirely convincing. For the most part, the Brits do a passable job at American accents (you can here a britishism here and there), but I think they may have overplayed the dippy Bronx accent on Tallulah (three L's and an H) a bit.  Still, she's a fun character (I loved her "again with the not kidding...oy!" line), and might have made an interesting Companion in her own right--we really need another companion who isn't from the contemporary Earth era.  She's cute too.

I liked the inclusion of the Rodgers and Hammerstein number, nicely choreographed.  It's also nice to see Hugh Quarshie in a non-embarrassing role.

What I don't get about this one is WHY the Daleks would want to evolve out of their shells and into an essentially helpless biped who's susceptible to any kind of physical (not to mention biological) attack.  He's not frightening as a guy with a mask, but as things in impenetrable shells with uber-lasers, Daleks -are- frightening.  [Ah, explained in part 2.]

Evolution of the Daleks:

Ooh, I loved the little conversation -between- the Daleks about Sec--"You have doubts?" "Affirmative."
The Dalek attack on Hooverville showed the limitations of the budget, a bit, but still neat; why change the lasers from a continuous beam to a "burst"?

Solomon's death was perfect, though, after he was spouting his loveygoodey stuff, and they just say "Exterminate" and zap him. I approve, Daleks, I approve.  But they -didn't- exterminate Dalek Sec...tsk. Not good writing.

Major Plot hole: "The New bodies will be 100% Dalek" - why the planet of hell didn't they have that as their plan in the first place? The whole hybrid thing is just...nonsensical.  And since when does gamma radiation take the form of lightning bolts?

One wonders why, if the Daleks can manufacture arms, they can't manufacture more Dalek shells...and why pig-men? Where did they get pigs? Why not rat men? When the pig-men got roasted by the lightning, did it smell like delicious ham?

Speaking of delicious ham: Dalek Sec: Wow, could this actor suck more?  "For all their faults...[Shatner pause] They have [Shatner Pause] Courage!"  Awful.   "If you choose death and destruction, death and destruction will choose you."  Did Dalek Sec study under The Sphinx?

The whole understanding of what "DNA" means and how it works is pretty awful also, but I guess it's a kiddie show.  Ultimately, I shouldn't try to understand and enjoy this show on an adult level, I guess.

So I suppose Lazlo ends up doing Geek shows?

SO, this story...not so good. 6/10 maybe?



The daleks kept being defeated by humans and humanoids, so they decided to become more like that which kept defeating them, hoping to absorb their enemy's advantages. The daleks finally figured out, after hell knows how long, that they kept getting beaten and driven to the edge of extermination. The last time they were down and out, after the movellans whupped them good, they went running back to davros because they needed a radical paradigm shift. Davros created daleks from humans, the emperor created daleks from humans at the end of the first season and I guess the daleks decided to try it in a new way, especially since humans seemed to be a more successful lifeform than daleks, and maybe that was the whole reason right there.

Maybe the daleks should have allied with the cybermen after all....
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Post by: Zardoz! on November 19, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
Well, the only thing to remember about Sec is that his entire purpose for existence is to think "outside the shell" compared to the other Daleks. But outside thinking is inherently foreign to the Daleks, so he could never possibly have had more than limited success at it. His idea was, for a Daleks, quite a good one, and the only way he could see for them to evolve and move forward, by embracing the best traits of the "survivor" species. He didn't just want more Daleks that were exactly the same, he wanted to try to make them more sustainable over time, and his observations told him that becoming more human was the way to do that.

Obviously, the other Daleks didn't care for his logic, so it all went tits up. But it was, at the core, not a bad plan. Especially for a single minded, unchanging race.

Exactly. Sec did what no other dalek could do: Admit that his race was on the wrong path and try to change it.

I remember in the ep where they had the dalke/cyberman fight, the doctor faced sec and other daleks and said something like "Born in a machine, encased in cold machines from the moment you're born till the moment you die. No wonder it is that you scream."

I think that may have affected sec, after all the doctor was the most powerful enemy the daleks had ever faced, and he implied that the dalek's encasement in cold machines was a weakness. Maybe sec decided to listen to his most successful enemy and take his words at face value.
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Post by: Chaos on November 19, 2007, 09:48:09 PM
Yeah, shitty casting will kill even the best story's potential. :)
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Post by: Zardoz! on November 20, 2007, 11:11:44 PM
One thing about dr. who: Now that the last season finale has revealed humanities final fate (Either degenerate into cannibalistic ghouls or become insane heads in flying killing machines, effectively a childish version of daleks) doesn't it kind of make everything meaningless now? I mean, the doc saves humanity...

..so it can become screaming murderous child-like killer cyborgs at the end of eternity. Uh, why bother? ???
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Post by: Taufiq2u on November 20, 2007, 11:47:37 PM
Youtubified in case anyone hasn't seen it yet...


[yt=425,350]PtIXg7MzPUY[/yt]

Like Tom Servo once said:

"Beautiful, just beautiful"
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on November 21, 2007, 09:40:57 AM
Hell...the fact that humans were able to survive until the end of the Universe is an accomplishment.....
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Post by: Doctor Who? on December 02, 2007, 07:48:57 PM
Ugh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7114699.stm



This just confirms that RTD is burnt out.

Her exit was perfect why ruin it.

it's like the way they keep bringing back TOS characters after Star trek six,why ruin a perfect exit?

Also I don't even count her as one of the best companions.

The show badly needs fresh blood on the production and writing end.
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Post by: Chaos on December 02, 2007, 08:49:25 PM
Imrahil: what were your thoughts on the ending of Family of Blood? Specifically, what the Doctor did to them all, and what it says about his personality when somebody goes too far (look behind you... there's a line).
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Post by: Doctor Who? on December 03, 2007, 09:48:22 AM
Imrahil: what were your thoughts on the ending of Family of Blood? Specifically, what the Doctor did to them all, and what it says about his personality when somebody goes too far (look behind you... there's a line).

Well, I liked that he did it without rancor or gloating. In one sense, you could argue that he's simply being a cosmic jailer.

On the other hand, he did seem to choose pretty horrific/specific ways to punish them.  I wonder if there's significance to the fact that the mother and father-figures were both just bound in places they could never escape from but never die from--out of sight--while the two children were very much "warnings" at the edge of sight to others who might try the same.  Perhaps they're less dangerous and therefore can be held a little more openly?

Still, I don't think he was indulging any "dark" fantasies or anything like that; had Eccleston's Doctor done it, I might have wondered, but I don't think Tennant's Doc has it in him to be that vicious. 

Still, what would other Docs have done? I can't see Davison or either Baker doing it. Maybe McCoy's doctor could.  But it does say that he's...calculating. Colder. Something like that.

Oh, and I LOVED the end scene of that one, with the war memorial. Very good stuff.  This episode is really what the whole of the new show should've been doing.



McCoy's Doctor is the only other one i could see doing the same thing,maybe Hartnell but i think he would have just out and out killed them.

Then again this did start as a McCoy story.
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Post by: Tripe on December 03, 2007, 06:10:30 PM
Yeah, I remembered that after I typed it.  But he was kind of an "evil" Doctor. :)

Ah and how good would the show have been had he been allowed more stories, sigh.
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Post by: Courtney on December 04, 2007, 09:57:01 AM
Ugh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7114699.stm



This just confirms that RTD is burnt out.

Her exit was perfect why ruin it.

it's like the way they keep bringing back TOS characters after Star trek six,why ruin a perfect exit?

Also I don't even count her as one of the best companions.

The show badly needs fresh blood on the production and writing end.

I'm not pleased about this either.  RTD is so hit and miss on his episodes, if someone's going to HAVE to bring Rose back, let it be Steven Moffat, or anyone else that could handle it properly and not turn it into the glurge-fest I fear it will be.  And won't her particular block of episodes be dealing with the Sontarans, or something else from the classic series?  That's great and all, but has the man come up with one original idea yet?  Jeez.
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Post by: Courtney on December 04, 2007, 10:04:48 AM
I'm just afraid he's going to make the whole batch a damn love triangle with Martha not yet over the Doctor, and then with Catherine Tate having not much to do other than to just be shrill the whole time (apparently according to some of those who watched the filming, one of the running jokes will be her yelling at Rose for looking at her strangely).  And this coming from someone who really likes the idea of Donna being the new companion. 

Ugh, just... no.  I loved Rose, I really did.  But she's gone now.  In another goddamn universe.  Leave her there. 
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Post by: Tripe on December 04, 2007, 10:06:45 AM
Who..fucking...CARES!??!  She's probably my least favorite companion. Yes, I rank her below Harry Sullivan. I rank her below Tegan.

How about Adric
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Post by: Doctor Who? on December 04, 2007, 10:11:53 AM
I'm just afraid he's going to make the whole batch a damn love triangle with Martha not yet over the Doctor and Catherine Tate having to just be shrill (apparently according to some of those who watched the filming, one of the running jokes will be her yelling at Rose for looking at her strangely).  And this coming from someone who really likes the idea of Donna being the new companion. 

Ugh, just... no.  I loved Rose, I really did.  But she's gone now.  In another goddamn universe.  Leave her there. 

ICHPIBM=I couldn't have put it better myself.

Sorry but I liked her but she isn't even in my top ten.

I really would like to see another season with Martha solo.

Also who decided that all the companions(Even the male ones0had to be in love with the Doctor?!

I hang out with people I am not in love with what's wrong with the TARDIS crew just being a group of good friends?

I'm sorry but i think i may skip the next season and wait for the one after it RTD is gone and hopefully we will get Steven Moffet or someone with new ideas in the producer's chair.
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Post by: Ortega on December 04, 2007, 10:20:43 AM
well, i read somewhere that after the 2008 seasons, there will be three specials during 2009 and the show will take a break until 2010.  Something about Tennant doing Shakesphere or something.  I hope this gives everyone involved some time to recharge their creative batteries.


Also, i heard that Martha is going to appear on a couple of episodes on the new season of Torchwood....so.....i guess I'll actually have a reason to watch that damn show.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on December 04, 2007, 10:26:12 AM
Oh great.

Now I have to decide if I want to put myself through another season of Torchwood :-\

Oh well at least Life on Mars will start airing on BBCA next week :clap:

That should help with the pain.

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Post by: Courtney on December 04, 2007, 11:40:28 AM
Yeah, DT's taking a year to do Hamlet, but wants to come back.  And I hope he does because he's my favorite, he's even surpassed Baker and Davison.  I heard that if RTD gets his way, Harry Lloyd (Brother of Mine from Human Nature/Family of Blood and also Will Scarlet from "Robin Hood") might be the next incarnation.
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Post by: Tripe on December 04, 2007, 11:50:04 AM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
.  Weird stuff.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Tripe on December 04, 2007, 12:08:55 PM
"Time Warrior" is coming out in April.  Can't remember...that's a Pertwee/Sontaran episode, isn't it?  The one where Sarah Jane shows up?

Yes I think it's the first Sontaran episode as well. Though it's more important because it's Liz Sladen's first story, sigh Sarah Jane  :)
Correct that...it's coming out in March.  Along with another one....and the name of that went straight out of my head.  Can't even remember which Doctor it is....   :-[

BTW, why isn't "Shada" out on DVD....they released it on VHS.

Not sure something to do with the estate of DNA possibly?

Did you ever see the full length version done as an audio drama and flash animation with Paul McGann?

Oh and Have you read Dirk Gentley's Holistic Detective Agency?

I moved this from the originating thread because it's more on topic here.



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Post by: Courtney on December 04, 2007, 12:21:22 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
.  Weird stuff.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I hate that we won't have John Simm as the Master anymore.  He was pretty spectacular if you ask me.  Granted I loved the way the ended it and all, I'm just very pro-Simmaster.

10th Doctor: And the Master. Oh! He just showed up again, same as ever.
5th Doctor: Oh no, really? Does he still have that rubbish beard?
10th Doctor: No, no beard this time. Well, a wife - Time Crash.  Cracked me up.

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Post by: Doctor Who? on December 04, 2007, 12:25:48 PM
Quote
BTW, why isn't "Shada" out on DVD....they released it on VHS.

They just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Doctor Who is difforant from almost every other show that is being released on DvD,becouse they fans are fixing the film and video tapes so that they are in as close to perfect shape as possible.  That means it's going to take until 2012 to be released on DvD but I think it worth it.

I both Tomb and Claws have before and after RT docus on them,I am always amazed at the great job the DWRT does.
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Post by: Tripe on December 04, 2007, 02:31:54 PM
10th Doctor: And the Master. Oh! He just showed up again, same as ever.
5th Doctor: Oh no, really? Does he still have that rubbish beard?
10th Doctor: No, no beard this time. Well, a wife - Time Crash.  Cracked me up.
Apparently in British English this is a gay joke? Please explain?

Actually it's just gay humor/terminology.

A beard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_%28female_companion%29)

There's a joke like this in That 70's Show:

Jackie: See Hyde, real handsom men don't have beards, look at Ken, he doesn't have a beard.
Hyde: Yes he does, Barbie is Ken's beard.

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on December 04, 2007, 02:45:24 PM
No it was more a taunt against an enemy rather than a serious outing.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on December 04, 2007, 02:51:03 PM
Ask Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck (she never recognizes my p[et name for her :() about that sometime :speechless:
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Post by: Courtney on December 04, 2007, 07:41:37 PM
I haven't seen Simm as the Master yet, so I dunno if he comes off that way or not.  I guess I can see Ainley in that light...



There were moments of slight homoeroticism.  They could have very easily been unintentional, but since it was RTD, they probably weren't.  But they were more having to do with the connection between The Master and The Doctor, last of their kind and all.  (unless wifey was a brainwashed Romana, which would have been pretty awesome if you ask me.  Ah wishful thinking.)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on December 04, 2007, 07:45:12 PM
unless wifey was a brainwashed Romana, which would have been pretty awesome if you ask me.  Ah wishful thinking.

Yes the destruction of the Time Lords really annoys me in no small part because it means Romana's gone :(
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Post by: Tripe on December 05, 2007, 05:16:43 AM
No you're right there, but who will play her because Lalla Ward is still pretty elegant but I'm not sure if she'd want to do it still.

But oh if she did, we could have a cameo from her hubby. Perhaps as a religious fanatic :D
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on December 05, 2007, 08:15:39 AM
Has it ever been shown that a Time Lord can regenerate into a different gender?  Because I kind of think it would be amazing if Romana came back as Tom Baker.   ;D
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Post by: Tripe on December 05, 2007, 08:20:08 AM
Didn't he want to come back as the Master?

Bakers is the best. His autobiography is amazing.

Ever hear the outtakes from the radio ad for a cheap furniture company he did?
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Post by: Tripe on December 05, 2007, 08:58:25 AM
I'll have a look for it in a bit. I actually have it saved on my computer at home. If I can't find a site I'll email you it.
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Post by: Tripe on December 05, 2007, 09:13:27 AM
Could they get the people from Dead Ringers to do all of them? I mean I've not seen them do Pertwee or Hartnell but their Troughton and Baker are pretty bang on (the McCoy, not so much)
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Post by: Courtney on December 05, 2007, 09:15:06 AM
I had my hopes pretty high that Voyage of the Damned would be a Two Doctors kind of thing, since in "Rose" we saw that Eccelston had been on the Titanic.  But it doesn't look like they're doing that. 
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Post by: Courtney on December 05, 2007, 09:22:43 AM
And perhaps this too was already mentioned, but I will absolutely freak if Kylie sings.  I love love love her, but when singers guest on a program and inexplicably sing, playing themselves or not, that is my BIGGEST pet peeve in the world.
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Post by: Tripe on December 05, 2007, 09:31:26 AM
He does in the 5 Doctor christmas skit.
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Post by: EVOLUTION117 on December 05, 2007, 04:15:09 PM
I had my hopes pretty high that Voyage of the Damned would be a Two Doctors kind of thing, since in "Rose" we saw that Eccelston had been on the Titanic.  But it doesn't look like they're doing that. 

Actually, it's never stated that Ecclestone's Doctor got on board the Titanic. They say that the Picture he's in with the family was taken the day before they were supposed to head for America aboard the Titanic and for some reason they cancelled the trip and survived.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sideswipe on December 05, 2007, 05:39:19 PM
I think he mentions bieng on the Titanic in a different episode though.  I cant remember which one.
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Post by: Courtney on December 05, 2007, 06:04:15 PM
Didn't they mention it early on?  I feel like they mentioned it in the McCoy period.  But it's entirely possible/probably that I made that up.
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Post by: Tripe on December 05, 2007, 07:14:10 PM
I'll have a look for it in a bit. I actually have it saved on my computer at home. If I can't find a site I'll email you it.

Oh and here it is (http://tom-baker.ytmnd.com/)
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Post by: Ortega on December 05, 2007, 07:23:22 PM
I'll have a look for it in a bit. I actually have it saved on my computer at home. If I can't find a site I'll email you it.

Oh and here it is (http://tom-baker.ytmnd.com/)

"The Princess of Wales wrote that"

"I adore distilled wicket shit"

awesome.....
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Post by: Courtney on December 05, 2007, 07:29:11 PM
I'll have a look for it in a bit. I actually have it saved on my computer at home. If I can't find a site I'll email you it.

Oh and here it is (http://tom-baker.ytmnd.com/)

"The Princess of Wales wrote that"

"I adore distilled wicket shit"

awesome.....

"This sounds like every other kind of shit, as opposed to magic and dreams!"

The man is my hero.
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Post by: Tripe on December 05, 2007, 07:33:44 PM
"Reprability"

Oh and if you haven't read it, do yourself a favor and put this

(http://www.spikemagazine.com/reviews/tombaker.jpg)

On your gift list

Or rather try to, as it seems Amazon only has a very limited supply.

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Post by: Tripe on December 07, 2007, 05:44:32 AM
Yeah, DT's taking a year to do Hamlet, but wants to come back.  And I hope he does because he's my favorite, he's even surpassed Baker and Davison.  I heard that if RTD gets his way, Harry Lloyd (Brother of Mine from Human Nature/Family of Blood and also Will Scarlet from "Robin Hood") might be the next incarnation.

Seems very young, but I loved his performance in Family of Blood.

I thought I'd mentioned this but I suppose I must have simply intended to.

The person I'd like to see as the 11th Doctor is Mark Gatiss.

(http://www.tertiary.consoleroom.btinternet.co.uk/newsgatiss.jpg)

I can't access Youtube but if somebody could embed The Web of Caves it'll illustrait what I mean.

Obviously it's an affectionate piss take but I think his version of the Doctor would be great..
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Post by: BathTub on December 07, 2007, 07:25:59 AM
Heh, he could play The Doctor, the companion AND the Villian of the week. Cast savings would be ENORMOUS!
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Post by: Tripe on December 07, 2007, 07:51:53 AM
Possibly also makeup considering the economical approach to character design in The League of Gentlemen :)
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Post by: Courtney on December 07, 2007, 07:54:38 AM
And of course he'd write all his own episoes!  (I don't care what anyone says, I liked Idiot's Lantern.)
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Post by: Tripe on December 07, 2007, 07:58:27 AM
And of course he'd write all his own episoes!  (I don't care what anyone says, I liked Idiot's Lantern.)

Me too, I like Maureen Lipman
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Post by: Courtney on December 07, 2007, 08:25:25 AM
And of course he'd write all his own episodes!  (I don't care what anyone says, I liked Idiot's Lantern.)
Well, it wasn't the worst episode written (that honor, I think, goes to Fear Her, followed by Love and Monsters, with Gridlock as an honorable mention), but I didn't like it much.
I hated Love and Monsters even more than Fear Her, and I pretty much detested Fear Her.   Love and Monsters was deplorable.  But I do like Gridlock.
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Post by: Courtney on December 07, 2007, 08:30:40 AM
And of course he'd write all his own episodes!  (I don't care what anyone says, I liked Idiot's Lantern.)
Well, it wasn't the worst episode written (that honor, I think, goes to Fear Her, followed by Love and Monsters, with Gridlock as an honorable mention), but I didn't like it much.
I hated Love and Monsters even more than Fear Her, and I pretty much detested Fear Her. 

I know there were Eccleston eps I didn't like too. Rose was kind of a shitty one.  And I really hated Father's Day. I remember thinking, "When did Doctor Who turn into a family drama?"

I hate Father's Day.  It didn't even make sense within the whole of the series.  The Doctor wouldn't do that.  He wouldn't allow Rose to go back to that moment.  It was just a dumb idea.

EDIT (because I hate double posting):  I generally stand alone on this, but I hate the Slitheen.  I preferred Boom Town to Aliens of London and World War 3, and I do like the episodes surrounding said characters, but dear lord I hated the Slitheen, so it kind of ruined those episodes for me.
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Post by: Tripe on December 07, 2007, 09:11:02 PM
Ok here's The Web of Caves

[yt=425,350]Q16PNjCSwRM[/yt]
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Post by: valeyard on December 11, 2007, 06:53:08 PM
It's hard.  I liked Patrick Troughton.  I love the Mind Robber.  I liked Jon Pertwee.  I loved Inferno and the "Unit" years.  I liked Tom Baker.  I liked Sylvester McCoy.  I liked his character, as least.  I think he got the short end of the stick on scripts a lot of the time however.  The Tom Baker years were definitely the Golden Years of Dr. Who.

I do NOT like the new Dr. Who.  I want a Doctor Who I can watch with my kids.  The first time the Doc was explaining to Rose how everyone was bi-sexual in the future, I switched it off and haven't turned it on since.  I guess I shouldn't be surprised if you are going to have the Queer as Folk director, also direct Dr. Who.  I'll stick with the old ones.
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Post by: Courtney on December 12, 2007, 03:13:22 PM
It's hard.  I liked Patrick Troughton.  I love the Mind Robber.  I liked Jon Pertwee.  I loved Inferno and the "Unit" years.  I liked Tom Baker.  I liked Sylvester McCoy.  I liked his character, as least.  I think he got the short end of the stick on scripts a lot of the time however.  The Tom Baker years were definitely the Golden Years of Dr. Who.

I do NOT like the new Dr. Who.  I want a Doctor Who I can watch with my kids.  The first time the Doc was explaining to Rose how everyone was bi-sexual in the future, I switched it off and haven't turned it on since.  I guess I shouldn't be surprised if you are going to have the Queer as Folk director, also direct Dr. Who.  I'll stick with the old ones.

I don't remember that scene...is that when Jack tried to kiss him?



It was when Jack said he'd go seduce (obviously I don't remember the whole quote) the guard so Rose and The Doctor could get in the gates, in "The Empty Child/ The Doctor Dances."  I liked that bit.  I think it's good for kids to be exposed to at least one badass dude on TV who happens to like to kiss other dudes.
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Post by: Ortega on December 12, 2007, 06:57:23 PM
Plus, its kinda Jack's shtick that he fancies anyone.  Watch the Utopia episode near the end of the third season, and Jack flirts with a big, blue Ant-Humanoid.
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Post by: Zardoz! on December 12, 2007, 08:17:38 PM
It's hard.  I liked Patrick Troughton.  I love the Mind Robber.  I liked Jon Pertwee.  I loved Inferno and the "Unit" years.  I liked Tom Baker.  I liked Sylvester McCoy.  I liked his character, as least.  I think he got the short end of the stick on scripts a lot of the time however.  The Tom Baker years were definitely the Golden Years of Dr. Who.

I do NOT like the new Dr. Who.  I want a Doctor Who I can watch with my kids.  The first time the Doc was explaining to Rose how everyone was bi-sexual in the future, I switched it off and haven't turned it on since.  I guess I shouldn't be surprised if you are going to have the Queer as Folk director, also direct Dr. Who.  I'll stick with the old ones.

Didja ever think of letting your kids watch it and make up their own minds on the show and on the subject of bisexuality?

Oh, waitaminute. Stupid question, you're a Reagan fan, of course you don't believe in letting people make their own choices. Silly me, forget I asked...
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Post by: Taufiq2u on December 17, 2007, 06:09:02 PM
It's hard.  I liked Patrick Troughton.  I love the Mind Robber.  I liked Jon Pertwee.  I loved Inferno and the "Unit" years.  I liked Tom Baker.  I liked Sylvester McCoy.  I liked his character, as least.  I think he got the short end of the stick on scripts a lot of the time however.  The Tom Baker years were definitely the Golden Years of Dr. Who.

I do NOT like the new Dr. Who.  I want a Doctor Who I can watch with my kids.  The first time the Doc was explaining to Rose how everyone was bi-sexual in the future, I switched it off and haven't turned it on since.  I guess I shouldn't be surprised if you are going to have the Queer as Folk director, also direct Dr. Who.  I'll stick with the old ones.

Wow you're so close-minded aren't you.
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Post by: Chaos on December 18, 2007, 06:08:07 AM
It's hard.  I liked Patrick Troughton.  I love the Mind Robber.  I liked Jon Pertwee.  I loved Inferno and the "Unit" years.  I liked Tom Baker.  I liked Sylvester McCoy.  I liked his character, as least.  I think he got the short end of the stick on scripts a lot of the time however.  The Tom Baker years were definitely the Golden Years of Dr. Who.

I do NOT like the new Dr. Who.  I want a Doctor Who I can watch with my kids.  The first time the Doc was explaining to Rose how everyone was bi-sexual in the future, I switched it off and haven't turned it on since.  I guess I shouldn't be surprised if you are going to have the Queer as Folk director, also direct Dr. Who.  I'll stick with the old ones.

Wow you're so close-minded aren't you.

Yeah, didn't you know? Homophobia is the new racism. :)
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Post by: Courtney on December 18, 2007, 09:05:03 AM
Well Jack's sexuality (I for one LOVE that he'll basically shag anything) is ultimately a moot point 
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Post by: Tripe on December 18, 2007, 09:13:14 AM
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Post by: PsypherPunk on December 26, 2007, 05:18:02 AM
So, Brits - How was Voyage of the Damned?  Is Kylie even hot anymore?

I certainly thought so. And her acting's not entirely bad either.

It wasn't a bad episode. It managed to (mostly) avoid the low-grade melodrama that the last couple of seasons have occasionally sunk into; a bit by-the-numbers but entertaining enough. I have to admit that the previews at the end for the next season actually had me more excited though.
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Post by: Taufiq2u on December 26, 2007, 06:38:06 AM
Voyage of the Damned was good - Not great, but pretty above average. The good thing is that it's pretty much better than Last of the Time Lords, David Tennant makes another good acting, and Kylie has improved since Street Fighter. And the rock version of the theme was pretty good.

The bad thing is, it's just lame. And the villains are the typical RTD cliche: Humanoid evil mechanical robots. Can't RTD find something original?
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Post by: Ortega on December 26, 2007, 09:33:31 PM
I finally was able to snag a copy today.

Pretty good.  Kinda smaltzy at parts, but still entertaining.  I like the happy-but-not-so-happy ending.  Though i'm not exactly thrilled at the return of Donna as the new companion, but i reserve judgement until I see the new episodes.  From the previews, it looks like it might be a good season.  March can't come quick enough....

I'll admit, the new theme was kinda different, but i can get used to it.
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Post by: Courtney on December 27, 2007, 11:59:56 AM
Not to be a big stinky cheater or anything
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Post by: dignan on December 28, 2007, 04:50:27 PM
I rather liked it.  It was cheesy, but in a good-natured, entertaining sort of way.  Titanic + Poseidon Adventure + Doctor Who = goodness, in my opinion.
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Post by: Taufiq2u on December 29, 2007, 09:12:38 AM
Even if Voyage of the Damned meh....

I'd still like to put my sonic screwdriver into Kylie Minogue's TARDIS.

It's bigger on the inside.
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Post by: ElectricNachos on December 30, 2007, 01:39:20 AM
This has got to be my favorite DW Christmas eppie so far, I think it proves that there is a lot of potential for some really great non-Earth based stories.  The really great thing about it though was the Poseidon Adventure half of the story.  I love that movie so much that it was incredibly fun naming off all the many elements that were borrowed from it.  The Doctor even seemed to be channelling Gene Hackman at many points during the episode, which just added to the greatness.  I just wish SciFi or CBC would get off their dead butts and air it already! :grr:
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Post by: ElectricNachos on December 30, 2007, 11:27:18 AM
[As soon as I saw the fat couple I thought, "Aha, Shelley Winters."  Where was the red-skinned midget in the Poseidon Adventure, though?

It didn't help that there was even a moment with her getting stuck in something.

As for the red skinned midget, well, maybe he could have been Red Buttons' character.  Get it?  Red......like his skin.....
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Post by: Zardoz! on January 08, 2008, 09:25:38 PM
Hartnell would've been 100 today...

(http://www.gallifreyone.com/images/news/hartnell100.gif)

Good mention.
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Post by: Tripe on February 13, 2008, 06:26:57 PM
He loves that car
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Post by: Tripe on February 13, 2008, 06:30:34 PM
or maybe it loved them so much it wanted a souvenir
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on February 13, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
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Post by: Tripe on February 13, 2008, 06:34:29 PM
Shut your mouth >:(

RTD must pay!
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on February 13, 2008, 06:46:28 PM
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I'm afraid I was mistaken
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Post by: Tripe on February 13, 2008, 06:51:52 PM
Man last night I saw a brunette version on American Idol. I know I could hardly believe it myself.
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Post by: Courtney on February 13, 2008, 06:58:39 PM
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Post by: BeautifulMind on February 13, 2008, 07:54:22 PM
LOVE Dr Who.  I recently became a fan when they started showing season one of the new series on PBS.  It made me curious since I have many family members who have been fans for years (come from a long line of nerds).  I backtracked and started renting and watching all the various doctor incarnations.  I'd have to say they all have their charms and they each brought something interesting to the role.  If you held a gun to my head and forced me to pic a fave though I'd prolly say Peter Davison mainly because of his bravery for taking on the role after the monolithic Tom Baker left it.  He's also a funny guy if you listen to his comentary or the DVDs. 

To keep up with the thread, I can't wait to see the stuff mentioned in the spoilers for the new Dr. Who series!
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Post by: Chaos on February 13, 2008, 08:12:24 PM
The thing all this that pisses me off is
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Hmm... maybe I should have used a rant tag instead of a spoiler tag. ;D
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Post by: Tripe on February 14, 2008, 05:13:45 AM
The thing all this that pisses me off is
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Hmm... maybe I should have used a rant tag instead of a spoiler tag. ;D

I agree with that for the most part though

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Post by: Chaos on February 14, 2008, 04:48:41 PM
The thing all this that pisses me off is
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Hmm... maybe I should have used a rant tag instead of a spoiler tag. ;D

I agree with that for the most part though

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Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good rant by bringing facts into it? ;)

Seriously though, I didn't know she was still actively employed. Even here in Canada where we actually GET some UK content on a reliable basis (and knowing how to override the iPlayer's GeoIP location checking gives me access to even more), I haven't seen her in anything since she left. I guess she's just been in stuff that I had no interest in seeing.
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Post by: Chaos on February 14, 2008, 05:02:10 PM
There was some softcore drama series everyone raves about, but I'd rather just watch porn with attractive people in it.

Watching British porn is like seeing two picket fences get stuck together.

So... yeah, no thanks.
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Post by: BathTub on February 19, 2008, 05:14:52 PM
Oooh!
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Post by: hare.29 on February 20, 2008, 05:54:45 AM
I think they should use Dalek-beagle hybrids. That way they can capitolize on the recent dog show win. I'm sure some sick freak geek out there has already come up with dalek costumes for dogs.
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Post by: hare.29 on February 20, 2008, 06:21:06 AM
Next week on Doctor Who: Man's best friend, man's worst enemy, or both!
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Post by: NinjaComic on February 20, 2008, 06:55:02 AM
They need to do a hamster race.  They did the Cat people on New Earth and the Werewolf was done too.  Yes, hamster people living in tubes and running on wheels...or is that like most of the other stories all ready?  Right, ant people.  Forced to live underground and having antennae.  Never mind, I see why the writers are having a hard time.  There are no original ideas.
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Post by: hare.29 on February 20, 2008, 06:58:30 AM
Naked mole rat people?
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Post by: Tripe on February 20, 2008, 07:02:46 AM
Habitrail for Humanity you mean?
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Post by: NinjaComic on February 20, 2008, 07:02:58 AM
Naked mole rat people?

And now you too see why the writers are having problems.  That is clearly a Torchwood episode.
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Post by: hare.29 on February 20, 2008, 07:05:16 AM
They seem to like to resurrect old villians. Why not program hop a bit and bring out The Mole People!
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Post by: NinjaComic on February 20, 2008, 07:14:29 AM
Sleestak  from Land of the Lost?  Nah, they did lizard people all ready too.
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Post by: Tripe on February 20, 2008, 07:28:35 AM
Anbd damn it the Sea Devils need to come back.
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Post by: NinjaComic on February 20, 2008, 07:36:19 AM
Ah, a nice Pertwee episdoe if I recall correctly.
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Post by: BathTub on February 20, 2008, 07:37:43 AM
meh I must have misheard something.
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Post by: Tripe on February 20, 2008, 07:39:24 AM
Ah, a nice Pertwee episdoe if I recall correctly.

Yep and a not as great Davison episode as well.
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Post by: NinjaComic on February 20, 2008, 07:40:49 AM
Nah, she left.  But she brought the cell phone with her and said "Call Me." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08scLEEjyes)  then it leads into Voyage of the Damned.
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Post by: hare.29 on February 20, 2008, 08:18:00 AM
Nah, she left.  But she brought the cell phone with her and said "Call Me." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08scLEEjyes)  then it leads into Voyage of the Damned.

"2 minutes to Belgium!" brilliant.
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Post by: NinjaComic on February 20, 2008, 08:44:25 AM
Yeah, I loved the whole thing.  Of course there was a great deal of whinging, but I thought they did a good job of demonstrating the differences in their characters.  I started watching with Baker, but I still consider Davison my Doctor.
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Post by: Tripe on February 20, 2008, 08:52:52 AM
I started with Davison really but I tend to think of Pertwee, Baker (T) and McCoy as my favorite Doctors
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Post by: Tripe on February 20, 2008, 12:01:58 PM
If you read his autobiography you'll get a pretty good idea why he doesn't do them, he's a crotchety wee bugger at times.
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Post by: NinjaComic on February 21, 2008, 07:31:40 AM
Peri was one of my favorite companions...until the writing went south with the new Collin Baker.  I guess they got better, but they had lost my interest by then.
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Post by: Tripe on February 21, 2008, 07:40:34 AM
Wait that's a pic of Peri? Damn my firewall :grr:
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Post by: Tripe on February 21, 2008, 07:45:40 AM
nng
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Post by: EVOLUTION117 on February 25, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
I got to see the trailer for Season 4 yesterday when I went to see Rambo.
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Post by: EVOLUTION117 on February 29, 2008, 01:14:18 PM
Yeah, I did find it kind of odd, but cool all the same being a fan of the Doctor. Only one thing bugged me though about it, since going by the trailer...(unless of course it was just something for the trailer I hope) It seems like Rose and Martha before her, Donna is also in love with the Doctor.  :(

And there I was looking forward to a companion who would actually stand toe to toe with the doctor in the sense that she would talk down to him as if he were a normal person.
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Post by: Courtney on March 03, 2008, 07:26:19 AM
Yeah, I did find it kind of odd, but cool all the same being a fan of the Doctor. Only one thing bugged me though about it, since going by the trailer...(unless of course it was just something for the trailer I hope) It seems like Rose and Martha before her, Donna is also in love with the Doctor.  :(

And there I was looking forward to a companion who would actually stand toe to toe with the doctor in the sense that she would talk down to him as if he were a normal person.

THANK YOU.  That's really starting to piss me off.  It's as though RTD only brought back DW because the previous years just didn't have enough sexual tension.  Believe me, as a woman I know that it's very difficult not to fall madly in love with David Tennant, but give it a rest already.
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Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2008, 07:32:09 AM
This is why the next Doctor should be played by somebody older and less sexy to the ladies/RTD.

This is why I'd say Mark Gatiss but I don't know, girls (RTD) does he do anything for you?
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Post by: NinjaComic on March 03, 2008, 08:13:13 AM
I would like a wacky Doctor now.  I loved Rowan Atkins as the Doctor in Curse of the Fatal Death.  Ooh, how about Eddie Izzard?  A cross dressing Doctor would be completely wrong, but would certainly fix all those moon eyed girls and might even send Harkness packing.
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Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2008, 08:16:51 AM
Er I know a bunch of girls who'd gladly help Eddie out of his slacks.
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Post by: NinjaComic on March 03, 2008, 08:19:13 AM
Er I know a bunch of girls who'd gladly help Eddie out of his slacks.

Slacks sure, but what about an actual dress with fake boobs?  There's the kicker.
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Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2008, 08:23:10 AM
But he's not that sort of cross dresser.

Now John Inman, god rest his tawdrily flamboyant soul. would be ideal for that sort of casting.

Ooh how about Christopher Biggins? Nobody's going to have the hots for that Doctor :)
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Post by: Courtney on March 03, 2008, 08:37:47 AM
I would most enjoy a Doctor Gatiss.  But not in "that way."  He does nothing for me.  But he has that kind of Peter Davison quality to him, I think he'd be great. 
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Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2008, 08:43:02 AM
Thanks for the vote of support  :)

See I love The Web of Caves not just because it's a nice little piss take of the old series but also because I could see Gatiss doing that version of the Doctor week after week.

"Well, again, it's been attempted"
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Post by: BathTub on March 03, 2008, 11:27:37 AM
I would think Gatiss is out of the running since he's already been on as a villan.

Though I suppose having Gatiss as The Doctor is one way to ensure K-9 would never survive.
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Post by: Courtney on March 03, 2008, 11:29:12 AM
The last rumor I heard about the next doctor involved it
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, due to some convoluted plot logic.

Well I'd certainly love that but he'd be even harder to *not* fall in love with than Tennant.  He's my top choice, though.  I think he'd be able to pull the fun manic stuff, but also be dark.  Eccelston-esque.
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Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2008, 11:32:30 AM
I would think Gatiss is out of the running since he's already been on as a villan.

Though I suppose having Gatiss as The Doctor is one way to ensure K-9 would never survive.

Yeah but Colin Baker had turned up at least once, possibly a couple of times, before he stepped into the patchwork great coat.

I mean if they can consider
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Post by: BathTub on March 03, 2008, 11:44:26 AM
I would think Gatiss is out of the running since he's already been on as a villan.

Though I suppose having Gatiss as The Doctor is one way to ensure K-9 would never survive.

Why? He no like K9?

The previous generation of Doctor Gatiss never met animal he couldn't kill.
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Post by: Nergol on March 04, 2008, 07:38:41 PM
I liked the revival for the first two seasons, but the last one wasn't very good. It was too Bugs Bunny-ish. Especially The Master. Don't get me wrong, I love John Simm - he was freaking genius in Life On Mars - but the characterization was wrong. The last thing The Master is supposed to be is zany.
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Post by: Courtney on March 06, 2008, 09:44:52 AM
I liked the revival for the first two seasons, but the last one wasn't very good. It was too Bugs Bunny-ish. Especially The Master. Don't get me wrong, I love John Simm - he was freaking genius in Life On Mars - but the characterization was wrong. The last thing The Master is supposed to be is zany.

See I didn't see the zaniness as such.  I LOVED the use of the songs, and he was more evilly funny than wacky or zany.  I thought Simm was perfect.  Dark with a lot of humor.
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Post by: Courtney on March 26, 2008, 01:25:57 PM
Starts in the US on April 18th on the Sci-Fi Channel I believe. 

<--- stoked.
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Post by: Chaos on March 26, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Starts for me at roughly 12:15am on the 6th of April, when I download it from a nice person in England who posts it directly to eztv. :)
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on March 26, 2008, 05:27:54 PM
Starts for me at roughly 12:15am on the 6th of April, when I download it from a nice person in England who posts it directly to eztv. :)

Indeed.  8)

heck yeah
 ;D
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Post by: Ortega on March 26, 2008, 06:36:02 PM
Starts for me at roughly 12:15am on the 6th of April, when I download it from a nice person in England who posts it directly to eztv. :)

Same thing as I do, but i tend to get torrents instead.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on March 30, 2008, 05:08:03 PM
Starts for me at roughly 12:15am on the 6th of April, when I download it from a nice person in England who posts it directly to eztv. :)

Same thing as I do, but i tend to get torrents instead.
EZTV is a torrent site, no?



egg on my face, i've never heard of it before.  I thought it was one of those video upload site that host entire episodes like Sidereel or something.  My bad.
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 01, 2008, 08:15:22 AM
DOCTOR WHO!

I have to say, I love all the Doctors,  some more than others (Five and Two are the tops for me ^_^)  but all have a place in my heart.

I'm enjoying the new series, which is what I was started on, but every since I started watching Classic Who, I can't get enough of it ^_^
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 01, 2008, 08:30:27 AM
I know, as most of his stories are lost :'(   but I've sought out every last one that I could (most I could only find online) and even gotten used to recons for Patrick and Billy boy.  Still not in love with recons, but it's better than nothing, right?
And, Jamie is the coolest male companion ever.

I also dressed up as Victoria (her Abdominal Snowmen/Ice Warriors outfit) for a costume party not to long ago... of course I had to bring a picture along so people could have some idea as who I was dressed as.... ;p
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 01, 2008, 08:33:03 AM
I've been re-watching season 3 in preparation for Sunday's torrent of Saturday's new episode. My friends and I are gonna have a get-together to gush about the Doctor. Our host, my friend Brian, is probably the biggest Doctor Who fan on the planet, and he'll most likely have a few choice classic episodes for us to watch as well.

I wonder if our Dalek friend will make an appearance?
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Post by: Tripe on April 01, 2008, 08:45:26 AM
I also dressed up as Victoria (her Abdominal Snowmen/Ice Warriors outfit) for a costume party not to long ago... of course I had to bring a picture along so people could have some idea as who I was dressed as.... ;p

I'm sure Zoe would have been a more popular choice. Not saying anyone would have got who you were but they would have had a generally positive reaction :)
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 01, 2008, 09:57:33 AM
I'm sure Zoe would have been a more popular choice. Not saying anyone would have got who you were but they would have had a generally positive reaction :)

Yeah, but I look more like Vic.  Can't help it.    ;p

But then if it means screaming and running into the beyond cute highland lad's arms... I don't mind being Vic ;p
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 01, 2008, 10:01:03 PM
I've only ever seen one Troughton episode--Tomb of the Cybermen. Was that Victoria in that one? She was cute...

Yep that was her ^_^  and Jamie ^_^  and the Doctor in a Cape! ^_^  okay, I'll stop with the cutesy smileys now... maybe.... ;p

Also in that episode... wonderful renditions of  American accents  ::)   a bit of controversy over slavery, and Cybermen in saran wrap!
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 02, 2008, 09:06:56 AM
I unfortunately didn't grow up with Doctor who :'(   (I was born in '86 in the US)  so the first time I saw the Cyberman was in a Tommy Baker episode (Revenge of the Cybermen) that I found online, and then in New Who... so I didn't have clear fix on what the Cybermen should be.

But after seeing most of their incarnations (haven't gotten to watch Tenth Planet and I know their are some later Cybermen episodes I've not seen), I think my favorite version is in the Troughton story arch called "The Invasion." Everything from their voices, costumes, and movements.


Oh, and did you notice that the Cybermen in the "Tomb of the Cybermen"  have Wiffleballs for joints?  ^_^  (and yet they still get the effect across!)
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Post by: Courtney on April 02, 2008, 09:19:42 AM
I've been re-watching season 3 in preparation for Sunday's torrent of Saturday's new episode. My friends and I are gonna have a get-together to gush about the Doctor. Our host, my friend Brian, is probably the biggest Doctor Who fan on the planet, and he'll most likely have a few choice classic episodes for us to watch as well.

I have been doing the very same.  I've watched Human Nature / Family of Blood twice in the last week.  My brother and I grew up on the show, and have gotten together to watch the last two premieres and finales together, but it wasn't looking like that would work out this year.  As luck would have it (or not luck, rather, as it's for sad family reasons  :() I'll be back home this weekend, and so we'll be able to watch together. 
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Post by: Tripe on April 02, 2008, 09:28:17 AM
I'm not sure if we should put this here or in the music section, but would anyone fancy a separate thread for discussing the Big Finish audios?
Guess that's a "no." :(


Oh I didn't see that question, er I'd put it in books myself and I really should listen to some of those. Hmm i wonder if my local library has any.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 02, 2008, 09:28:41 AM
I've been re-watching season 3 in preparation for Sunday's torrent of Saturday's new episode. My friends and I are gonna have a get-together to gush about the Doctor. Our host, my friend Brian, is probably the biggest Doctor Who fan on the planet, and he'll most likely have a few choice classic episodes for us to watch as well.

I've watched Human Nature / Family of Blood twice in the last week. 

Funny, I just finished Family of Blood last night! I'm still impressed with Tennant's performance in that episode. Plus, the kid with the creepy face and stiff neck...
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on April 02, 2008, 09:31:28 AM
I've been re-watching season 3 in preparation for Sunday's torrent of Saturday's new episode. My friends and I are gonna have a get-together to gush about the Doctor. Our host, my friend Brian, is probably the biggest Doctor Who fan on the planet, and he'll most likely have a few choice classic episodes for us to watch as well.

I've watched Human Nature / Family of Blood twice in the last week. 

Funny, I just finished Family of Blood last night! I'm still impressed with Tennant's performance in that episode. Plus, the kid with the creepy face and stiff neck...

Yeah, I think I've said it many times in this thread, but that two-parter is one of my favorite Doctor Who episodes/serials/anything ever.  It ties with Impossible Planet/Satan Pit in my mind for the best New Who eps.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on April 02, 2008, 09:38:57 AM
For me, The Human Nature two parter just edges out the Empty Child two parter with Eccleston.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Chaos on April 02, 2008, 10:26:17 AM
I've been re-watching season 3 in preparation for Sunday's torrent of Saturday's new episode. My friends and I are gonna have a get-together to gush about the Doctor. Our host, my friend Brian, is probably the biggest Doctor Who fan on the planet, and he'll most likely have a few choice classic episodes for us to watch as well.

I've watched Human Nature / Family of Blood twice in the last week. 

Funny, I just finished Family of Blood last night! I'm still impressed with Tennant's performance in that episode. Plus, the kid with the creepy face and stiff neck...

Yeah, that episode is all kinds of awesome.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 02, 2008, 11:19:07 AM
Yep. Family of Blood is especially awesome--I love Tim's speech about who the Doctor is.

I think Blink is my #2 favorite ever.

Gridlock's my favorite. Blink is my #2 as well.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on April 02, 2008, 12:06:06 PM
Gridlock's my favorite.

Good to see Gridlock get some love.  I was starting to think I was the only person on the planet who liked that one.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 02, 2008, 12:08:19 PM
Gridlock's my favorite.

Good to see Gridlock get some love.  I was starting to think I was the only person on the planet who liked that one.

You... are... not... alone...
 ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 02, 2008, 12:42:03 PM
It's mostly the various characters in the cars, especially Brannigan. Ardal O'Hanlon is great in that role, and very funny.

Plus there's great lines like "I've invented a sport!!"
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on April 02, 2008, 01:40:34 PM
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/Imrahil2001/drsimpsons.jpg)

Awesome sig line, my friend.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 02, 2008, 02:00:11 PM
Yes, very!!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 02, 2008, 05:48:52 PM
Okay, I take it back. Blink is my favorite episode. The tension is top notch, the time travel aspect is superb, the acting is all great, The Doctor is on top form, and the guest star is probably the most adorable girl to ever guest star on any tv show in the history of the medium. I'd forgotten just how captivating those impossibly big brown eyes were...

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 02, 2008, 06:05:31 PM
Blink is what I showed my girlfriend to make her like Doctor Who. Now she listens to Big Finish audios with me, asks me if I have any new episodes, and I bought her a T-shirt with "The Angels Have the Blue Box" on it for her birthday. She asked for it.

How awesome is an episode that does that? :)

Agreed. That one caused more conversation afterwards than probably any other episode I've watched. My friend at work watched it before I did and said "I'll only tell you one thing: 'The Angels have the Phone Box!' ... You'll understand when you watch it..."

How right he was. So awesome.

You've only got 17 DVDs??   :D
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Chaos on April 02, 2008, 09:03:17 PM
Blink is without a doubt my favourite "new Doctor Who" episode of all time. Which is saying a lot, because despite my undying love for David Tenant in the role, Eccleston has a special place in my heart for all of his awesomeness in its numerous forms. My wife still swears he is going to play the starring role when her book eventually gets turned into a movie. :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Kari_Ann on April 02, 2008, 10:44:55 PM
The real tragedy of Eccleston's Doctor is that he had Rose as a companion for all of his run.  And based on the comments he makes in "Rose," he was recently regenerated (though this makes no sense as we see the pictures of him throughout time in the same episode--good job, RTD).  Which means we'll never have him without Rose, and that's like never having booze without vomiting.
LOL!

I have to agree!  I don't mean to say that I (nor imply that you do)  hate Rose with a passion....  it's just, well... my goodness!  It's like the writers had no idea how to write a script without the sexual tension being at least at level 8.5! 

And I have friends that hated Martha because "ROSE WAS THE BEST!!!! MARTHA CAN'T REPLACE HER!!!!"    And what about the other... I'm not going to count right  now... women who have traveled with the Doctor?  Why does he have to be all mushy with an 18 year old Earth girl?  What ever happen to a mentor/father/big brother relationships that many of the other Doctors enjoyed with their companions? I'm sorry... but I was ready to let her go when the time came... There was no where for her character to go.  (but how many times have people said that? ;p)


ANYway...yeah... I loved Doctor Nine...and agree that it would have been great had he gotten more  Rose than one full time companion.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Chaos on April 03, 2008, 05:49:12 AM
The reality, m'dear, is that we are living in the naughts (2000-2009), and today's "sophisticated" audience can't possibly be expected to believe that a man and a woman could have anything other than a sexual relationship. Hence all depictions of man and woman on screen must be rife with rampant sexual tension. Otherwise, the audience will assume that the man is "gay." I applaud RTD for recognizing this fundamental fact, and adhering rigidly to it. :P
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Post by: Tripe on April 03, 2008, 05:52:43 AM
This is why the next doctor has to be devoid of sex appeal.

That's why i favour Mark Gatiss, though it occurred to me, while watching the new Sense and Sensibility, that Mark Willians would also be good.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Kari_Ann on April 03, 2008, 12:26:31 PM
The reality, m'dear, is that we are living in the naughts (2000-2009), and today's "sophisticated" audience can't possibly be expected to believe that a man and a woman could have anything other than a sexual relationship. Hence all depictions of man and woman on screen must be rife with rampant sexual tension. Otherwise, the audience will assume that the man is "gay." I applaud RTD for recognizing this fundamental fact, and adhering rigidly to it. :P

*sigh*  I suppose you are right.... I appologize for my  adolescent ramblings.  :p

This is why the next doctor has to be devoid of sex appeal.

That's why i favour Mark Gatiss, though it occurred to me, while watching the new Sense and Sensibility, that Mark Willians would also be good.


Ooo,  nice picks!   Either would be wonderful.... hardly the sexy front runners they have now (though I have loved both nine and ten), but both posses the charisma and presence needed for the Doctor (Gatiss a bit more than Williams, in my mind at least).

But I've heard a rumor that they RTD was considering Harry Lloyd (Baines from "Human Nature"/"Family of Blood")...  wonderful actor... but I can only see that going further down the "Sexy Doctor" path.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Kari_Ann on April 03, 2008, 11:20:50 PM
well, David Tennant is signed through 2010 (and seems likely that he wants to try to break Tommy-boy's record) so by the time he leaves Lloyd will be at least 26/27... only a couple of years younger than Davison.

Still... I think we need an older Doctor again.  But maybe that's just me.   

And yeah, Gatiss is a huge fan , which I love. ^_^
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 04, 2008, 04:49:28 AM
Have you seen his skits from Dr Who night?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 04, 2008, 06:02:42 AM
I seem to remember there being amazement that he'd got the job since he'd recently played the younger brother in All Creatures Great and Small and was thought to be too young for the role of the Doctor.
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 04, 2008, 09:57:04 AM
yep..he was actually 29 when he started (hadn't had his birthday yet).

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Post by: Tripe on April 04, 2008, 10:37:49 AM
He was also the Dish of the Day at Milliways:

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At about 5:30

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Post by: Tripe on April 04, 2008, 11:43:38 AM
Yeah they might have met on that, and i think was Trillian is more accurate, i think they split up.

They also did Button Moon together.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 04, 2008, 11:47:03 AM
Wow.

you learn something new every day.

I have been a Doctor Who and Hicthhiker's fan for forever and I didn't know that.
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 04, 2008, 09:39:14 PM
Have you seen his skits from Dr Who night?

I've found a few online... I especially loved the one where they kidnapped Davison!  (have to say, I'm a Fivey fan ^_^).
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 05, 2008, 06:10:07 AM
I really like McCoy, I wish he'd been given more time :'(
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Post by: Tripe on April 05, 2008, 08:15:47 AM
I really like McCoy, I wish he'd been given more time :'(

He's in the Dramas, but I don't love his stuff. He's probably my least favorite of those doctors--that isn't to say that I don't still enjoy his stuff, of course.  I'm not a huge fan of Ace or Mel, either, which doesn't really help.  They gave the 6th Doctor a "new" companion--I think they need to do that with the 7th too.

Oh yeah while I didn't mind Dorothy too much you'd be hard pushed to find a more irksome companion than Mel (bonnie Langford gets older but she's still as annoying as she was when she played Violet Elizabeth).

But the idea that the Doctor was something other than just a mere Time Lord wasn't explored enough on the tv episodes, do they do more on it in the audio dramas?
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 05, 2008, 10:12:29 AM
Yeah, I like Davison, but he's sort of bland as the Doctor. I think 6 is my new second favorite after 4.  And I like Tennant, of course.



Well, to each his own...  Davison and Troughton battle it out for my #1  And the others kind of flitter around in the other spots... I enjoy them all immensely, but there's just something about 5 and 2 ^_^

One reason I love Davison because it's a lot about the subtleties with him.   Although, I must admit his tenure did suffer from some pretty dreadful writing.   Yes, there were things I didn't like about many episodes in his time, but I think Davison always did a brilliant job.  But, as I said, that's my opinion. ^_^   
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on April 05, 2008, 10:26:38 AM
Well, to each his own...  Davison and Troughton battle it out for my #1 

I'm with you.  Davison and Tennant are the duelers in my mind.  Time Crash was among the happier moments in my nerd life.   ;D
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on April 05, 2008, 06:40:21 PM
I might just be giddy from the fantastic newness, but first impression: loved it.   

I think I might just like Donna.  She's calmed down quite a bit, and as long as they keep her "a mate" she'll be wonderful. 
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Post by: Ortega on April 05, 2008, 06:55:32 PM
Nice episode.  Lots of fun.

Tate definitely toned it down a bit since Runaway Bride, so for now, i can stand her.....

and
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Here's a question...does anyone get the downloadable episode commentaries off the DW website on the BBC?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/audio/
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Kari_Ann on April 06, 2008, 12:00:16 AM
I'm not knocking him as an actor or as a person.  I just don't think his incarnation of the Doctor is all that great.

I know, I was just stating that I personally loved his incarnation (which could be why he was one of my favorite Doctors... nah! ;p), but not everyone likes the same thing... which is good, because if we were all the same that would be scary.... and dull ;p

I'm with you.  Davison and Tennant are the duelers in my mind.  Time Crash was among the happier moments in my nerd life.   ;D

I completely fangirl-ed throughout the whole of Time Crash! ^_^  Such a great mini episode ^_^



oh,  and to the topic at hand.... I'm looking forward to a companion that may JUST be a companion.  It will be good to FINALLY cut back on the sexual tension in the TARDIS... because people of different sexes CAN be friends without being all over each other.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 06, 2008, 06:57:38 AM
I think it's time to get a male companion as well, and preferably one who isn't from Earth. 

Yeah but with RTD I'm not sure that would cut down on the Shoe-horned Sexual Tension.
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Post by: Tripe on April 06, 2008, 08:46:39 AM
Well let's hope so, I heard that about series four too though.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Chaos on April 07, 2008, 06:35:39 AM
I thought it was a fun episode. Tenant was in great form, as always. His warning, followed by his attempt at the end to help, were classic Doctor.
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Post by: Courtney on April 07, 2008, 07:05:14 AM
The bit where they were talking to each other through the windows was hilarious.  His face when he just stopped signing back was priceless.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Chaos on April 07, 2008, 11:58:13 AM
The bit where they were talking to each other through the windows was hilarious.  His face when he just stopped signing back was priceless.

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Post by: Tripe on April 09, 2008, 08:28:41 AM
OK just watched it.

Sarah Lancashire is always good, Donna was much less annoying than I thought she would be. It's great to see Bernard Cribbins getting work and
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 09, 2008, 08:44:21 AM
OK just watched it.

Sarah Lancashire is always good, Donna was much less annoying than I thought she would be. It's great to see Bernard Cribbins getting work and
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I agree.


Great episode and lots of fun.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 09, 2008, 08:50:35 AM
I have nothing to add, anything I feel has already been said.

I think out of the three companions (That I know of) Donna is my favorite ;D


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Post by: Tripe on April 09, 2008, 08:56:20 AM
While I think the family angle was over done with Rose and sort of with Martha, i'd actually like to see more of Cribbins, cause well he's like
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Anyone who did this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=r5XX9LX2es4) should never be without steady employment.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Gil on April 09, 2008, 09:06:31 AM
How might an American neophyte go about introducing himself to Doctor Who? The sheer volume of material is overwhelming.


Start watching it on Sci Fi or BBC America.  Don't bother with the old series, there's too much to worry about where to start.  The new (2005) series is a great place to start, especially "Rose", Eccelston's first episode.  Then watch straight through to the end of season 4.

You can buy boxed sets of series one through three now.

Once you've seen that, go back and watch as many Tom Baker series as you can get your hands on.  Fox Home Video has released most of his classic episodes on digitally remastered DVD, with commentary and lots of great extras.  More are coming out all the time.

If you're into that sort of thing, some great radio play stories are being released by Big Finish audio on CD.  Great for road trips.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on April 12, 2008, 01:38:08 PM
And the next episode is up on mininova right now......
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on April 12, 2008, 08:07:23 PM
I've been a Dr  Who fan for more than twenty years.  I think the new show is pretty uneven but there have been a few brilliant episodes and Tennant has to be one of my favorite Doctors ever.  He is absolutely perfect for the role and I hope they can hang on to him for a long time yet.

That being said, I just watched Partners In Crime earlier today and I'm wondering... is there any way we can prevent Russell T Davies from writing another Dr. Who episode ever again?  Is there some kind of petition or restraining order we can file? 

I swear the man only has one story idea and he keeps recycling it over and over. 
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I'm not a hard core sci fi fan, I don't need everything to be super serious and dramatic all the time.  But I don't like the show constantly winking at me reminding me that its all a load of crap and just lighten up and enjoy it because nobody takes this stuff seriously anyway.  There have been some very good new Who episodes that didn't have to stoop to that.  Off the top of my head: The Empty Child, School Reunion, The Girl In The Fireplace, The Impossible Planet, Blink, and Human Nature.

RTD deserves huge kudos for doing the impossible.  He brought Dr Who back to television and actually made it popular again.  But he can't write for squat.  I'm really looking forward to someone else taking over.

As far as Catherine Tate as Donna goes.  I do like the direction they went with her character, she is much less annoying this time around.  She's not exactly easy on the eyes though.  Apparently the Doctor just wants a 'mate' and not someone making goo goo eyes at him.  Since he's apparently not attracted to women.  Ahem.  I like to think of the Doctor as being very alien and asexual which is why he can't relate to his companions on that level, but let's be honest, I'm sure RTD has other ideas there. 

Which is why the Doctor can't have a male companion.  It would officially make Doctor Who the Gayest Show Ever.  Gayer than, to quote Patton Oswalt, 'eight guys blowing nine guys'.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on April 13, 2008, 03:39:03 PM
To be the voice of positivity, this episode definitely showed that Tate can hold her own with Tennant acting-wise.  And it was better than I thought it would be from the preview. 
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Post by: Chaos on April 14, 2008, 08:10:53 AM
Still, at least no
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this time.

Come on, DW.  You can do so much better than this. 

Except for the fact that one of the prophecies one of the two soothsayers said when they were having the "I know more about the Doctor" exchange seemed to be referring to "her returning," as in the person you mentioned.

I was also unimpressed with the second episode because it was, as others have pointed out, basically identical to the first episode, and about 15 other episodes of New Who so far. RTD needs to stop priming that well and find a new one.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 14, 2008, 09:35:17 AM
for all anyone knows, it's
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ooh, ooh, or
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Post by: Courtney on April 14, 2008, 09:39:32 AM
As well as
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who we know is returning.

I've seen elsewhere that the "her" in question may not be the obvious choice that you've mentioned, but may instead refer to
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That's an interesting theory...  I don't know if I like it necessarily though.  I'm torn on it. 
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 14, 2008, 01:21:43 PM
for all anyone knows, it's
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ooh, ooh, or
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I could post quotes to back these up

like this
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or this
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but I probably won't
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 14, 2008, 04:11:39 PM
Yep. Word is that
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will be appearing as (and this is a super, duper secret
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so don't read it unless you actually want the surprise ruined):

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.

You read it, didn't you?

I did read it, but there was a comma in the one I read, so I wasn't sure they were talking about her
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 14, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
It's all on how you read the last line in your post, it could describe the post itself, or the article which described the characters returning.

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Post by: Chaos on April 15, 2008, 04:52:44 AM
That's one of the most significant commas I've ever seen. :D
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Post by: Courtney on April 15, 2008, 08:05:31 AM
I don't get the second half of the quote. 

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Post by: Tripe on April 15, 2008, 08:08:53 AM
No,

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Enough already.
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Post by: Courtney on April 15, 2008, 08:11:59 AM
Ahem.

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Post by: Tripe on April 15, 2008, 08:14:15 AM
Absolutley.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 15, 2008, 08:28:17 AM
After reading some of the posts hear i am wondering if I should even bother setting my time recorder this friday.

It sounds like season four is nothing but all the bad bits from the last three seasons with none of the good bits :speechless:
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Post by: Tripe on April 15, 2008, 08:32:04 AM
Well it is only two episodes in, I suppose that should be taken into consideration.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 15, 2008, 08:34:15 AM
Yeah but since this is RTD's last season i guessing he will be writing every episode and it will be the same bad script each week.

Also Rose is coming back,I don't like hear much.

I may give this season a miss and tune back in for the first non RTD produced season.
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Post by: Courtney on April 15, 2008, 09:04:19 AM
I still recommend tuning in.  They haven't been bad per se.  They're certainly not "Love & Monsters" or "Fear Her."  Tune in if nothing else to see that Donna's shocking me by not sucking.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 15, 2008, 10:08:15 AM
Ok I'll give it a shot.

You want to know the trouble with new Who?  No one overacts in the bad stories.

In LameShit at least you had Paul Darrow hamming it up like crazy,you don't get that in newwho.
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on April 17, 2008, 05:51:41 AM
I haven't seen the second episode yet but it doesnt sound very promising.  Last year we had four or five HORRIBLE episodes in a row culminating with that terrible two part Dalek story (Hey RTD!  Daleks are no longer an event if we see them twice a season!) but after that it did start to get pretty good.  Blink, for instance, was brilliant.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 17, 2008, 05:56:20 AM
yeah, that second episode wasn't very good, I liked it, but it wasn't awesome
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 17, 2008, 10:14:42 AM
I'd have to agree that it wasn't the worst episode ever...but it was VERY far from the best.

Though I am enjoying Donna, I really miss Martha.  I can hardly wait till she comes back later in the season.... but I'm not so thrilled that Rose will be returning  (I have a friend who only knows New Who and she just about flipped out when she found out Rose we'd be seeing Rose again. So I'm starting her on some Classic Who. (she's already a fan of Troughton after one episode. ^_^)
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Post by: Chaos on April 19, 2008, 07:08:18 PM
Episode 3 is up on the pirate bay...
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Post by: Courtney on April 19, 2008, 10:28:35 PM
Okay, I'm ignoring your previous post Imrahil as I haven't watched the new one yet, but re: Rose.  Here's my question,  why is she so damn ugly on this show?  I mean she's actually kind of pretty on "Secret Diary of a Call Girl" (or at least the five minutes I saw before I turned it off because it was awful) and in some pictures, but on Who (both in Series 1 & 2 and in her recent appearance) she looks like a drag queen with tarantula eyes.  Did the makeup team just hate her or what?
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Post by: Courtney on April 20, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
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Post by: Chaos on April 21, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
Fantastic episode. Definitely the best so far this year. Maybe even top 10 New Who material.

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Post by: Courtney on April 21, 2008, 10:35:39 AM
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I too loved it.  Thought it was great.  Usually I find the early episodes in a season to be a bit weaker than the middle of the run, but this one was wonderful.  The music gave me chills.  I say more Ood, less Daleks.  Was it ever really explained why they were turning rabid though?  I've only watched it once, I might need to watch again.

Oh, and by the way,
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 21, 2008, 10:42:43 AM
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I too loved it.  Thought it was great.  Usually I find the early episodes in a season to be a bit weaker than the middle of the run, but this one was wonderful.  The music gave me chills.  I say more Ood, less Daleks.  Was it ever really explained why they were turning rabid though?  I've only watched it once, I might need to watch again.

Oh, and by the way,
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Yeah, I thought it was great too, it just reinforces for me that Donna is the best companion (of the 3 seasons I've seen so far)


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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 21, 2008, 11:32:11 AM
There's a problem with your theory Mr. Imrahil

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Post by: Courtney on April 21, 2008, 12:10:16 PM
As far as the "song"

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 21, 2008, 12:25:05 PM
I think I was just trying to find a way to wedge in another "Ooh Snap"
 ;D
but that could be what happens, and it probably might :)

Edit - in an effort to not sound so........... stupid, I post this
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Post by: Courtney on April 21, 2008, 12:54:04 PM
There's a problem with your theory Mr. Imrahil

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Ah, but what if
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Thoughts on that?

I really like that theory.  I have nothing to add.  It's pretty perfect.  I hope that's what it is actually.
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Post by: gammer on April 21, 2008, 01:04:52 PM
Pause/Break...

As an outside observer, I don't think I've ever seen the 'spoiler' tag used so extensively in any other thread. You guys/gals might have a new record or something...

Please continue  ;)
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Post by: Chaos on April 26, 2008, 01:32:27 PM
aaaaaand episode 4 is up on pirate bay. :)
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Post by: Courtney on April 26, 2008, 06:39:01 PM
Loved it.  I love a good cliffhanger.  It's gonna be one looooong week waiting for how this one turns out.   And is it just me, or did Martha get prettier?
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 27, 2008, 04:36:33 AM
not easy is it? being clever


I liked it, the only thing I thought was lame was
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I like the Sontarans, they seem like Donna warriors (yeah, I know no one is going to get it, and it's a lame joke, but I made it anyway)
 
so the Doc used to work for UNIT?

and I'm going to assume Rattigan is named after the best disney villain ever
(http://www.geocities.com/enchantedforest/tower/9989/images/ratigan.gif)
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Post by: Chaos on April 27, 2008, 05:41:12 AM
I've heard that the UNIT guy Martha was working with (whose name slips my memory) is going to be a recurring character going forward, and that he and the Doctor will work together some more.

I enjoyed the episode more than the other 2 alien invasion of earth episodes this season (bringing us up to 75% alien invasion, 80% if you count next week's ep... VARIETY!!), but I'm definitely getting tired of all these aliens invading earth for some reason (none of which are explained, or really valid... why earth? it's just a chunk of rock, out of billions of others).

The best part was as Imrahil said, when the Doctor corrected the wormy boy genius. My wife and I really got a kick out of that one, as we too have been saying for years that that is the correct usage. Funny stuff. :)
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Post by: Chaos on April 27, 2008, 08:24:19 AM
We know why it's important to the Doctor (the time rift he uses to refuel the Tardis, as well as his sentimental attachment to humans), but there's really been no hint of an explanation as to why so many aliens give a crap about it... other than the convenience of the plot, anyway.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 27, 2008, 08:27:57 AM

so the Doc used to work for UNIT?

and I'm going to assume Rattigan is named after the best disney villain ever
(http://www.geocities.com/enchantedforest/tower/9989/images/ratigan.gif)


Yep, the 3rd Doctor was UNIT's "scientific adviser," and the 4th Doctor's first story involved them as well.  This was mentioned in previous eps--it's how Eccleston had Mickey looking things up online in "Aliens of London/World War Three," through UNIT's website.



wait, how many doctor's are there?
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Post by: Chaos on April 27, 2008, 08:31:49 AM
Tenant is the 10th. See Imrahil's signature. :)
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Post by: Tripe on April 27, 2008, 08:32:41 AM
wait, how many doctor's are there?

Just one with 13 potential personae (maybe more if the Master is anything to go by)
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 27, 2008, 08:34:00 AM
oh, that's what those simpson people were
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Post by: Courtney on April 27, 2008, 03:27:46 PM
Yep.  The Doctor is one person who's had ten complete regenerations.
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Post by: Courtney on April 27, 2008, 10:22:31 PM
Well. Nine regenerations.

Whatever, math's hard and stuff.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 28, 2008, 04:06:56 AM
Well. Nine regenerations.

Whatever, math's hard and stuff.

totally


 thanks for the info everyone
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Post by: Kari_Ann on April 28, 2008, 09:42:44 PM
Over all, I enjoyed the episode.  And I have to say, I really love Donna ^_^

Oh, and one question...did anyone else start singing "We Will Rock You" to the Sontaran chant?
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Post by: macnorton on April 29, 2008, 10:02:25 AM
Question:

Having recently gotten into Dr. Who this season, where is a good place to start with Classic Who?
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Post by: Tripe on April 29, 2008, 11:51:01 AM
Personally I like Pertwee and McCoy, but most will say Baker the first.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on April 29, 2008, 12:07:17 PM
What's that one, Curse of the Fatal Death?

that was good
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Post by: Courtney on April 29, 2008, 12:09:01 PM
Curse of the Fatal Death is a spoof Steven Moffat (who later went on to write Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Girl in the Fireplace and Blink) did for the Children in Need Special.  And yes, it's awesome.  Moffat rules.
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Post by: macnorton on April 29, 2008, 01:38:35 PM
I find Pertwee a bit too campy for my tastes.

I'd say good ones to start with:

Robot (first T. Baker story)
Pyramids of Mars
Robots of Death

Good Dalek stories anyone?


Thanks for the reply!  Off to Amazon
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 01, 2008, 05:44:19 AM
I find Pertwee a bit too campy for my tastes.

I'd say good ones to start with:

Robot (first T. Baker story)
Pyramids of Mars
Robots of Death

Good Dalek stories anyone?


Best place to start on Pertwee episodes is Inferno.  All time top ten Dr. Who episode right there.  His first episode Spearhead From Space is also really good.  The whole first season of Pertwee was good, very adult and not campy at all (by Doctor Who standards).

I always found the Daleks to be highly overrated  but if you need to start somewhere go with Genesis Of The Daleks.
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 03, 2008, 03:42:45 AM
I like the Pertwee episodes.  He was one of those actors who truly loved the role of the Doctor.  Plus his era had Roger Delgado, the original actor who played the Master.  Still the best in my opinion.  Most of those stores aren't on DVD yet, though.

Genesis of the Daleks is THE classic Dalek episode everyone will point you to.  It's a little slow honestly but it's from the early Tom Baker years and all of those episodes are worth seeing.  You can't go wrong with any episode featuring Baker and Liz 'Sarah Jane' Sladen.  The Tom Baker episodes started to get silly right around the introduction of K-9.

As for the new show, just watched Planet of the Ood.  Big improvement over the first two episodes, nice to see some backstory on the Ood.  I'm a LITTLE concerned about the Ood's statement to the Doctor at the end (and yes I'll spoiler tag it, why stop now)
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Post by: Courtney on May 03, 2008, 11:44:33 AM
And the whole point of the specials is so that he can do Hamlet and come back.  If he wanted out, he'd leave at the end of this series.  I'd imagine we have at least one more full series with him.
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Post by: Ortega on May 03, 2008, 12:53:55 PM
.....and the new episode is up on mininova right now...
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Post by: Courtney on May 03, 2008, 09:09:34 PM
Re: the family thing.  Yeah, no shit, can RTD make his mother issues any clearer?  That said, I love the grandfather.  The past two mothers have been total cows (I liked Jackie Tyler) but this grandfather is wonderful. 
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The Old Who callbacks were great, and "Are you my mummy?" made me fall out of my chair.

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So good to have the strong smart Martha Jones back.  She was so perfect when she wasn't fawning all over him.  RTD, if you make her question her engagement to stay with the Doctor, I will hunt you down.  She's one of my top three companions, might even be my favorite, and I'd love to have her back, but NOT if she's going to be all googlyeyed.

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That was Davison's daughter?  She's like a hotter Emma Bunton.  Wow. 
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 04, 2008, 02:43:08 AM
And the whole point of the specials is so that he can do Hamlet and come back.  If he wanted out, he'd leave at the end of this series.  I'd imagine we have at least one more full series with him.

Yes that's what I had heard last year.  But it sounds like in recent interviews he's been dodging around the issue.  I hope he stays on, he's certainly one of my favorite actors to take on the role.  He really gets it, he knows what this character means to the fanbase.  But you do have to wonder what will happen after the specials since nothing is confirmed beyond that.  Who knows, maybe RTD will be out (please?) and Tennant might leave with him.  Just speculating. 

I'm looking forward to watching the Sontaran episodes, glad to hear they at least mention the Brigadier.  I don't know why they can't bring Nicholas Courtney back for a cameo while the old chap is still alive.  He's the only actor to work with (nearly) every Doctor, he's got to keep that streak going.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 05, 2008, 08:55:25 AM
Least favorite line: "Sontar Ha"
I know man, that kid was a genius, and that's the best line he could come up with?
 
And finally: Holy CRAP is Peter Davison's kid hot.


dude totally
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 05, 2008, 09:19:35 AM
oh, never mind then
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 07, 2008, 11:52:14 PM
That's true, he's had scenes with 2-3-4, and done audio dramas with 6 and 8.  Dunno if he appeared on-screen with 5, 6 or 7 though.

Unless I'm mistaken, Nicholas Courtney has worked with every Doctor except the two in the new series.  He appered in the Dalek Master Plan with Doctor #1, although he was playing a different character then.  He was also in Mawdryn Undead with Doc 5 and Battlefield with Doc 7.  He did audios with 6 and 8.
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Post by: Courtney on May 08, 2008, 11:43:30 AM
[yt=425,350]6QVHw5nGDi4[/yt]

BWAHAHAHA.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 08, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
poor Doc
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Post by: Courtney on May 10, 2008, 04:52:48 PM
I really wish they could have actually done something good with Martha in her time back.  Freema's acting really shone in this episode, and it just all the more points out the potential Martha Jones had.  As it stands, she's one of my favorite companions for the moments where she was tough and smart, but for some reason the writers spent the whole third series going back to sad lovesick Martha.  This new series was a second chance to make that right, and poor girl couldn't even get her own plotlines.  I hope they eventually give her some more well-deserved episodes that showcase the strength of that character.

Anyway, off my Martha rant.  Georgia Moffett did a good job.  She was kind of a throwback, with this optimistic light disposition. 
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Can't wait for next week's.  I've been waiting for an Agatha Christie episode for years.

Ooh ooh ooh, edit! 
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Post by: Chaos on May 10, 2008, 09:03:51 PM
Episode 6, "The Doctor's Daughter," is available on the pirate bay.
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 11, 2008, 01:12:56 AM
Episode 6, "The Doctor's Daughter," is available on the pirate bay.

I'm lagging behind.  I may as well wait for the Sci Fi broacasts.   :(
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Post by: Chaos on May 11, 2008, 07:46:12 AM
Episode 6, "The Doctor's Daughter," is available on the pirate bay.

I'm lagging behind.  I may as well wait for the Sci Fi broacasts.   :(

Or download them all at once and have a marathon weekend. With commercials removed, all 6 episodes would only be four and a half hours. :)
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Post by: Courtney on May 11, 2008, 08:21:21 AM
Well then in that case, no one read my post three or four up then.   ;)
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Post by: Flopsy T. Hamster on May 13, 2008, 12:54:51 PM
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on May 19, 2008, 08:26:10 AM
Episode 6, "The Doctor's Daughter," is available on the pirate bay.


I'm in LOOOOOOOOOOOVE with Georgia Moffett!!!

She's like the British Kristin Bell.  ;)



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Post by: Courtney on May 19, 2008, 07:32:56 PM
Well then you can just hope my theory proves true.  I think it will. 
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on May 20, 2008, 10:39:34 AM
Well, Imrahil, it seems your constant bitching about Russel T. Davies has finally paid off!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/05_may/20/who.shtml
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Post by: Courtney on May 20, 2008, 10:50:05 AM
THANK GOD.  I knew RTD was going and was just praying nonstop for Moffat to take over!  YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    :highfive:
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 21, 2008, 11:20:36 PM

On the other hand, I've just listened to the Big Finish Audio, "Arrangements for War," (http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_bf57.htm) and that was really marvelous.  This is the kind of story NuWho should be telling.

I can't recommend these Big Finish audios highly enough.  Some are (to use a Britishism) a bit "pants," but most are top-notch.  They really rehabilitated both the 6th and 7th Doctors in my mind.  It's just a pity Tom Baker won't do them while he's still alive.

Evelyn Smythe, the companion invented for this medium, is the "moral conscience" that RTD wants Tate to be, except she's not a) low class, b) stupid, or c) played by Catherine Tate.

It was a great tale filled with pathos and epic and tragedy and insights into the way the Doctor works and...man. Just can't praise it highly enough.

 


I totally agree with you.  I wish the New Who would try to be more along the lines of the Big Finish audios.  The Sixth Doctor and Evelyn Smythe are probably one of the best Doctor/companion teams ever.  You could never, ever do an older woman like that as a TV companion though and that's just sad.  We'll just have to settle for horse-faced, pancake makeup-wearing Catherine Tate.  I'm kind of enjoying her personality-wise but my god she's ugly in an extraordinarily British way.

I cannot wait to see what happens when Moffat takes over Doctor Who.  I hope we'll still have Tennant in the role, new producer usually means new actors.
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Post by: Chaos on May 22, 2008, 08:04:53 AM
but I really, really do not understand the adoration heaped upon that monkey-faced chav Rose Tyler.  She's seriously, seriously ugly.  Between her jutting snout and her mush-mouthed accent...gah. Hate ROse. So Much.

Agreed 100%.

I downloaded that confessions of a call girl or whatever the hell it was called, out of pure morbid curiosity, and was so disgusted I shut it down and deleted it after less than a minute. There is nothing redeeming about her whatsoever.

And you British people... you sure are trying hard to have sexy stuff on TV these days, aren't you? Making up for lost time or something? Yeesh.

That said, I freely admit that I have a soft spot for Harker / Ianto. They're absolutely adorable. Naked hide and seek anyone? Rowr...
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Post by: Courtney on May 22, 2008, 08:26:49 AM
but I really, really do not understand the adoration heaped upon that monkey-faced chav Rose Tyler.  She's seriously, seriously ugly.  Between her jutting snout and her mush-mouthed accent...gah. Hate ROse. So Much.

Agreed 100%.

I downloaded that confessions of a call girl or whatever the hell it was called, out of pure morbid curiosity, and was so disgusted I shut it down and deleted it after less than a minute. There is nothing redeeming about her whatsoever.

And you British people... you sure are trying hard to have sexy stuff on TV these days, aren't you? Making up for lost time or something? Yeesh.

That said, I freely admit that I have a soft spot for Harker / Ianto. They're absolutely adorable. Naked hide and seek anyone? Rowr...

They were just "hunting weevils"  :D  If Barrowman ever wants to give girls a try, I volunteer.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on May 22, 2008, 09:42:41 AM


he cheats though, he always cheats
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Post by: Chaos on May 22, 2008, 12:45:09 PM
In these matters, I've learned it's always best to choose the lesser of two weevils.

 :rimshot:
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Post by: Chaos on May 22, 2008, 08:31:10 PM
So, if the TV announcer from the end of the copy I downloaded is to be believed, there's no episode tomorrow night?

Boo! :(
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Post by: Courtney on May 22, 2008, 08:33:23 PM
So, if the TV announcer from the end of the copy I downloaded is to be believed, there's no episode tomorrow night?

Boo! :(

Nope, it's that Eurovision song contest.  But we will come back to the much awaited Steven Moffat two-parter!  Yay!
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Post by: Chaos on May 22, 2008, 08:35:44 PM
So, if the TV announcer from the end of the copy I downloaded is to be believed, there's no episode tomorrow night?

Boo! :(

Nope, it's that Eurovision song contest.  But we will come back to the much awaited Steven Moffat two-parter!  Yay!

That's great, but it still doesn't solve the immediate problem of no god damn Who fix this weekend. :(
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Post by: PsypherPunk on May 26, 2008, 03:52:13 AM
Anyone else notice that there's a lot of breeding going on this season? The Adipose, the Pyroville, the Sontarans, the Doctor's daughter, the Vespiform, even the Ood. Seriously, Who-niverse, get a room.
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Post by: Chaos on May 26, 2008, 04:50:44 AM
I'd still like for them to at least TRY to come up with some kind of explanation as to why alien races keep wanting to colonize the god damn Earth all the time. "Because it's the planet we live on" isn't a good enough reason from the aliens' perspective, that's just a convenience for the sake of the show. It would be much more interesting and believable if there was actually some kind of REASON why the aliens keep targetting the Earth.
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Post by: PsypherPunk on May 26, 2008, 09:34:04 AM
I think that's meant to be the theme of the series--ecological disaster on a galactic scale leading to races scrambling to breed their next generation.  It'll all culminate in the finale, I expect.
Maybe they'll bring back the Time Lords? That could be fun: the Doctor might remember "Oh, actually they were all a bunch of wankers" and get off his high horse for a bit.
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Post by: Chaos on May 26, 2008, 10:22:05 AM
I think that's meant to be the theme of the series--ecological disaster on a galactic scale leading to races scrambling to breed their next generation.  It'll all culminate in the finale, I expect.

You give Davies too much credit, I think. :)

It's never going to be explained, or even mentioned. Because he's never even thought of it.
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 26, 2008, 10:58:49 AM
I think that's meant to be the theme of the series--ecological disaster on a galactic scale leading to races scrambling to breed their next generation.  It'll all culminate in the finale, I expect.

You give Davies too much credit, I think. :)

It's never going to be explained, or even mentioned. Because he's never even thought of it.

Bravo, sir, bravo.  Davies just likes to recycle the same three or four ideas over and over.  He's either a gigantic hack as a writer or he suffers from some kind of short term memory loss like the guy in Memento.
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Post by: Ortega on May 26, 2008, 08:12:20 PM
Yeah....i don't mind so much the Earth-based stories, but the Alien invasion stories are wearing thin.  I understand the necessity during the old days, when they didn't have as large a budget as they do now, and they wanted to avoid yet another forest standing in as an alien planet, but enough already. 

They really need to delve more in the Time War and what the hell happened to Gallifrey and all that.  They little ten second clip during the finale two-parter was a tease.  Hopefully Stephen Moffet will do more with that.

And my feelings on Donna so far:  meh.  Don't exactly care for her, but don't hate her either.  If i had to choose between Rose or Donna, i'd go with Rose.  But it was HER family crap that pissed me off to no end.  Her whiny, crabby, mother and her cotton-mouthed little shit of a boyfriend were a pain everytime they were on screen.  Donna's family crap is thankfully brief, and not mind-gratingly annoying, and i kinda like the Grandpa guy.  It really sucked that Martha couldn't have been the plutonic companion that she should have been.  If they are going to continue to use former guest actors or characters, they should go with Sally Sparrow as the new companion. 
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 26, 2008, 09:50:06 PM

They really need to delve more in the Time War and what the hell happened to Gallifrey and all that.  They little ten second clip during the finale two-parter was a tease.  Hopefully Stephen Moffet will do more with that.


I'd really like to see a couple of eps (or a special) or something dealing with this. Bring back Paul McGann to do it.  And ideally they'd have him regenerate into Eccleston at the end, but we all know that won't happen.

That would be cool but again, probably won't happen.  I hope they bring the Time Lords back in some capacity thought.

I don't mind the Earth invasion stories as such, its the fact that they use the same plots every time.  How many times are we supposed to believe that half the population of Earth bought the same product which just happens to be some kind of alien device?  How many times to we have to hear BIG Corporation = Alien Invaders?  One story using that plot device is okay, any more than that is lazy.  I hope Moffat will put an end to that.

My prediction is that before Davies is gone he's going to give us a musical.  All-singing, all-dancing Who.  You heard it here first.
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Post by: Courtney on May 26, 2008, 10:00:31 PM
It really sucked that Martha couldn't have been the plutonic companion that she should have been. 

If they don't give Martha the story she deserves, I'll be completely disappointed.  Freema's wonderful, and they gave her so many great moments and she had so much potential, and then they just kept dragging her down to this lovesick weakling.  Such a waste.  Give Martha her due.  
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 27, 2008, 05:07:12 AM
I take it you didn't like The Doctor and the Pirates? :)

I forgot about that!  But that was Big Finish, not Davies.  I just hope he hasn't seen it, he'll get ideas.
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Post by: Chaos on May 27, 2008, 05:22:40 AM
A musical episode CAN work, if done very well (Once More With Feeling, anyone?). But Davies couldn't pull it off in a million years.

So yeah... please, god, no.
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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on May 28, 2008, 04:00:51 AM
I take it you didn't like The Doctor and the Pirates? :)

I forgot about that!  But that was Big Finish, not Davies.  I just hope he hasn't seen it, he'll get ideas.

Still...I enjoyed it, for the most part. Especially "I am the very model of a Gallifreyan buccaneer."

I liked it too and I agree, musical episodes can work when they are done right.  You just have to shrug and go with the silliness.  But can you imagine just how campy a Davies-produced musical could be?  I still haven't recovered from the horror that was the 'Runaway Bride' Christmas special.  At least the spider alien thing didn't burst into song.
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Post by: Courtney on June 01, 2008, 05:08:46 PM
Just watched the new one, "Silence in the Library."  WOW.  Hands down, the best of the whole new series.  Brilliant.  Can't wait for the second half.  Steven Moffat is amazing.
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Post by: dangfish on June 04, 2008, 04:16:57 AM
I'd still like for them to at least TRY to come up with some kind of explanation as to why alien races keep wanting to colonize the god damn Earth all the time. "Because it's the planet we live on" isn't a good enough reason from the aliens' perspective, that's just a convenience for the sake of the show. It would be much more interesting and believable if there was actually some kind of REASON why the aliens keep targetting the Earth.

Along those same lines (sort of), I'd be more interested in an explanation as to how the tardis always puts him in the middle of trouble. I always liked to believe that there was some type of device on the tardis the doctor is unaware of that seeks out situations where he will be needed or something.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 04, 2008, 10:08:31 AM
I guess I'm the only one, but
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Post by: Courtney on June 04, 2008, 10:13:33 AM
I guess I'm the only one, but
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I happen to really like Donna a lot.  I know she's a bit shrill for people, but I like that for the first time in the whole new series, we have a companion who is okay with taking the piss out of the Doctor every once in awhile, not just staring at him all love struck.  If they'd given that trait to Martha instead of that ridiculous unrequited love nonsense, she would have been the best companion ever.  (she already kind of is in my mind, I love Martha.)
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Post by: dangfish on June 04, 2008, 01:44:42 PM
Okay, I'm new to the discussion here, but I've been a Doctor Who fan for many many moons and I've been enjoying the heck out of the new series since the first episode with Rose and the Autons. Am currently watching the fourth season on sci-fi channel. So I'm curious.....What exactly is the beef with Davies?
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 04, 2008, 01:48:35 PM
no idea
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Post by: Courtney on June 05, 2008, 09:08:21 AM
Okay, I'm new to the discussion here, but I've been a Doctor Who fan for many many moons and I've been enjoying the heck out of the new series since the first episode with Rose and the Autons. Am currently watching the fourth season on sci-fi channel. So I'm curious.....What exactly is the beef with Davies?

For me, it didn't start until Love & Monsters.  I hated that episode with such a fevered violent passion, I just started noticing how his episodes were more hit and miss and I much preferred other writers (Helen Raynor SO NOT INCLUDED.  Fuck you, Daleks in Manhattan).  Bringing back Rose was just the nail in the coffin for me because it completely undoes the importance of Doomsday. 
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 05, 2008, 09:32:38 AM
...she's a fucking loud, opinionated moron.

exactly, she's relatable
 ;D
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Post by: Chaos on June 05, 2008, 11:43:24 AM
Okay, I'm new to the discussion here, but I've been a Doctor Who fan for many many moons and I've been enjoying the heck out of the new series since the first episode with Rose and the Autons. Am currently watching the fourth season on sci-fi channel. So I'm curious.....What exactly is the beef with Davies?

For me, it didn't start until Love & Monsters.  I hated that episode with such a fevered violent passion, I just started noticing how his episodes were more hit and miss and I much preferred other writers (Helen Raynor SO NOT INCLUDED.  Fuck you, Daleks in Manhattan).  Bringing back Rose was just the nail in the coffin for me because it completely undoes the importance of Doomsday. 

To be fair, Love and Monsters can also be blamed on this fucker:

(http://static.amctv.com/img/originals/hustle/cast_crew/danny_lg.jpg)
He's also solely responsible for destroying Hogfather. Teatime should have been AWESOME. Instead, he was... well, not. DAMN YOU, MARC WARREN!!  :angry:
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Post by: Chaos on June 07, 2008, 03:34:46 PM
Episode nine is now up on pirate bay.

To the book depository!
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Post by: Tripe on June 07, 2008, 04:38:27 PM
Dr (W)Ho (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1024800/As-Doctor-spotted-FOURTH-beauty-everyones-asking-Whos-next.html)

There's hope for Court (and Anais and Ann) yet :)
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Post by: Courtney on June 07, 2008, 07:16:08 PM
SHE'S ONLY 23?!  God dammit Tennant, if you're gonna run off with some 23 year old, have the good decency to let it be me!  JEEZ. 

 ;D

Smile.. though your *sniff* heart is breaking...

He does seem to like 'em blonde.  I might just be too dark and alluring for him.  (I'll just keep telling myself that.)

Oh and EDIT, this week's episode was really good, an excellent end to an excellent two parter.  However

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Post by: Sheik Yerbouti on June 11, 2008, 04:26:32 AM

Oh and EDIT, this week's episode was really good, an excellent end to an excellent two parter.  However


Good to hear that there's some hope for this season.  I've been catching them on Sci Fi and just watched The Doctor's Daughter.  So disappointing, especially with a misleading title like that.  Okay she's technically his daugher, but still...

The Stephen Moffat era can't come quick enough for me.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 11, 2008, 04:35:18 AM
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Post by: Tripe on June 11, 2008, 09:59:15 AM
So The Doctor has managed to influence Tom Tomorrow, though I'd have thought he'd be able to get a better likeness

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/TripeHoundRedux/CS/story.jpg)
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 15, 2008, 12:46:03 AM
Yes yes, but what do the good people of rifftrax think of Dr. Who season 4 as a whole? Hmmm? =o

Frankly, I think it's one of the good seasons, although it's hard to call any entire season "bad". Fires of Pompei rocked my world, I loved to see the Ood again, and Unicorn & Wasp, AWE-some x3

However though, The Doctor's Daughter?
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Post by: Courtney on June 15, 2008, 07:17:41 AM
I've loved this season, and I know I'm one of the few, but I really like Donna.  I've said it ad nauseum, but after Rose who I liked but was basically useless unless she was acting as some deus ex machina and Martha who could have been amazing except they gave her that ridiculous puppy love for The Doctor, it's nice to see a companion who won't let him get away with anything. 

However though, The Doctor's Daughter?
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This was the weakest episode of the series.  It was just poorly written.  It had its fun moments and Georgia Moffett was adorable (until she started allegedly boning my future husband, then it got personal), but it wasn't very good. 

I haven't watched yesterday's yet, but my brother said it was good but the worst of the season.  But he liked TDD so we'll see.  And though I haven't seen it, like a dipshit I watched the preview for next week's.  Really wish I hadn't.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 15, 2008, 05:11:35 PM
I think a lot of previews give away too much. I mean, the preview at the end of "Boom Town" totally gives away the big surprise of "Bad Wolf". x.x
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 16, 2008, 10:54:42 AM
I think a lot of previews give away too much. I mean, the preview at the end of "Boom Town" totally gives away the big surprise of "Bad Wolf". x.x

Really, what's the deal with putting big spoilers in the previews, it's been real bad for Battlestar Galactica this year, and since they run the promos practically every commercial break it's hard to avoid them.  At least for Lost they edit them to be deceiving...

As for this season of Dr. Who this year, since I'm watching on Sci-Fi I'm only up to the Agatha Cristy one but my only complaint is too many 2 part episodes so far that didn't need to be that long.  You could skip all the part 1's and not really miss anything.  Same problem with The Dr.'s Daughter, not a bad story but it wasn't enough for a full hour.
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Post by: Courtney on June 16, 2008, 12:06:50 PM
I think a lot of previews give away too much. I mean, the preview at the end of "Boom Town" totally gives away the big surprise of "Bad Wolf". x.x

Really, what's the deal with putting big spoilers in the previews, it's been real bad for Battlestar Galactica this year, and since they run the promos practically every commercial break it's hard to avoid them.  At least for Lost they edit them to be deceiving...

As for this season of Dr. Who this year, since I'm watching on Sci-Fi I'm only up to the Agatha Cristy one but my only complaint is too many 2 part episodes so far that didn't need to be that long.  You could skip all the part 1's and not really miss anything.  Same problem with The Dr.'s Daughter, not a bad story but it wasn't enough for a full hour.


Well the next two parter you'll see ("Silence in the Library"/"Forest of the Dead") is amazing.  In my opinion, of course.  Imrahil disagrees.   He is wrong.   ;)
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 16, 2008, 02:08:54 PM
Well the next two parter you'll see ("Silence in the Library"/"Forest of the Dead") is amazing.  In my opinion, of course.  Imrahil disagrees.   He is wrong.   ;)

OK, good to know, since BSG is off I probably will not be watching as it airs anymore, probably record them and watch them back to back later.

Looking back I guess I was thinking of last season added to this one, there has only been one real 2 part show since Donna showed up again.  I guess it just seems like there were more 2 part episodes this year... 

As for Donna, I also like her, although I think they should probably tone down the comic relief aspect of her character a little bit.  I do wish they had written for Martha the way they have been doing for Donna, the few episodes when she was back showed how great she could have been.

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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on June 16, 2008, 09:36:53 PM
No, no, the latest one (Midnight) was actually quite good!

The library one, however...

there's no forest here, it's a library!!

Wait...

the forest IS the library!!!

Humans killed all those trees to make books!!

Oh how horrible!!


LAME!!   >:(
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on June 16, 2008, 09:40:19 PM
So The Doctor has managed to influence Tom Tomorrow, though I'd have thought he'd be able to get a better likeness

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/TripeHoundRedux/CS/story.jpg)


You know, normally I despise Tom Tomorrow and his ultra-liberal wailing, but those last two panes were HILARIOUS!!!

I think that's the first time I've ever laughed at his work.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on June 17, 2008, 12:59:45 AM
ZOMG, can I get some spoiler tags for those of us who only get basic cable? @__@
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Post by: Ortega on June 17, 2008, 03:25:58 AM
ZOMG, can I get some spoiler tags for those of us who only get basic cable? @__@

the internet and mininova.org, my friend...........
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Post by: king4wd on June 18, 2008, 08:25:30 AM
No, no, the latest one (Midnight) was actually quite good!

The library one, however...

there's no forest here, it's a library!!

Wait...

the forest IS the library!!!

Humans killed all those trees to make books!!

Oh how horrible!!


LAME!!   >:(

GAAACK!!! I knew there was a reason I wasn't watching Dr. Who. Actually, I've only watched two or three episodes since curly red hair and overly long scarves.
 P.S. I don't care what my clueless teenage daughter says Tom Baker was the best time-lord EVER!!!!
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Post by: Tripe on June 18, 2008, 08:28:24 AM
P.S. I don't care what my clueless teenage daughter says Tom Baker was the best time-lord EVER!!!!

You are a gentleman and a scholar.:)

I also liked McCoy.
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Post by: Courtney on June 18, 2008, 08:47:09 AM
P.S. I don't care what my clueless teenage daughter says Tom Baker was the best time-lord EVER!!!!

You are a gentleman and a scholar.:)

I also liked McCoy.

Baker's amazing, Davison was my first, and I like McCoy a lot, but Tennant and Eccleston are both great.  They all share the Galifreyan of the Century award.

Except number one is Tennant in my mind so everyone leave me alone, yes I prefer him to Baker, shut up now pleasekaythanksbye. 
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 18, 2008, 09:21:46 AM
P.S. I don't care what my clueless teenage daughter says Tom Baker was the best time-lord EVER!!!!

You are a gentleman and a scholar.:)

I also liked McCoy.

Ahhh, Baker and McCoy, they were also my favs, the good ol days when the tardis had more than one room, they spent more time out in space than they did on Earth, and Earth wasn't getting invaded every week.....

Just kidding, I think a lot of the new stuff has been up there with the best of the old series.
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Post by: Ortega on June 18, 2008, 09:39:21 AM
I didn't start watching Doctor Who until the new series premeired on SciFi, and after that, i started getting episodes of the interntets.  Overall, i say I like Tennant the best, and then Baker.  Davidson was good, but jesus christ did he have annoying companions(Shut up, Tegan......Just shut it!).  I enjoyed some of the McCoy era, and some of the Pertwee era.  And my overall opinion on this season, its just OK.  The rehased plotlines( alien invasions) get annoying, and creating false expectations ( The Doctor's Daughter), are just lazy. 

I also wished Eccleston had more seasons, i liked his version of the Doctor.
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Post by: Courtney on June 18, 2008, 09:50:00 AM
I have very high hopes for Moffett.  RTD has a hard on for rehashing the same old thing over and over again. 
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 18, 2008, 11:52:16 AM
I have very high hopes for Moffett.  RTD has a hard on for rehashing the same old thing over and over again. 

He did a great job on Coupling, one of my favorite shows.  He didn't rehash too often on that show, hope he can do the same for Dr. Who.

Of the previous episodes he wrote Blink was the one that stands out for me.  Awesome use of multiple plot lines coming together at the end.
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Post by: Courtney on June 18, 2008, 12:14:48 PM
I have very high hopes for Moffett.  RTD has a hard on for rehashing the same old thing over and over again. 

He did a great job on Coupling, one of my favorite shows.  He didn't rehash too often on that show, hope he can do the same for Dr. Who.

Of the previous episodes he wrote Blink was the one that stands out for me.  Awesome use of multiple plot lines coming together at the end.

Blink was incredible.  And dammit, I loved Silence in the Damn Library and Forest of the Damn Dead, even if no one else around here damn does!  Yeah, Coupling's one of my favorite shows EVER and in that, as well as all his Who episodes, he is great at having things come together and make sense at the end.  AND he won't spend his entire tenure trying to do things just the way he wants, like RTD did.  He'll do what's best for the series as a true fan.  I think it will be a great fit. 
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 18, 2008, 12:19:28 PM
I liked silence in the library and forest of the dead :)
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Post by: dangfish on June 18, 2008, 12:42:45 PM
I have very high hopes for Moffett.  RTD has a hard on for rehashing the same old thing over and over again. 

He did a great job on Coupling, one of my favorite shows.  He didn't rehash too often on that show, hope he can do the same for Dr. Who.

Of the previous episodes he wrote Blink was the one that stands out for me.  Awesome use of multiple plot lines coming together at the end.

Blink was incredible.  And dammit, I loved Silence in the Damn Library and Forest of the Damn Dead, 

Haven't seen Library and Forest yet (watching them on sci-fi channel) but  Blink has been my favorite of the last couple of seasons.
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Post by: dangfish on June 18, 2008, 12:55:02 PM
P.S. I don't care what my clueless teenage daughter says Tom Baker was the best time-lord EVER!!!!

You are a gentleman and a scholar.:)

I also liked McCoy.

Ahhh, Baker and McCoy, they were also my favs, the good ol days when the tardis had more than one room, they spent more time out in space than they did on Earth, and Earth wasn't getting invaded every week.....

Just kidding, I think a lot of the new stuff has been up there with the best of the old series.

I agree that a lot of the new stuff is just as good if not better than the old series. That being said, Tom Baker will always be my favorite doctor. Even when the story wasn't up to snuff, Baker would be fun to watch. In fact, I just watched my first classic Who episode in years (still have many episodes on old, dusty vhs tapes). I picked Android Invasion, which wasn't the best choice. The story was mediocre at best and it was quite a chore to stomach the primitive, cheesy look of the show after watching nothing but the new series lately. The performance of the two leads, however, got me through. Sarah was a great companion. On a more positive note, I just watched about half of Brain of Morbius last night and I'm enjoying it MUCH more than Android Invasion. It's been so long since I've watched  these that it feels like I'm watching them for the first time.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 18, 2008, 07:07:48 PM
Blink was incredible.  And dammit, I loved Silence in the Damn Library and Forest of the Damn Dead, even if no one else around here damn does!  Yeah, Coupling's one of my favorite shows EVER and in that, as well as all his Who episodes, he is great at having things come together and make sense at the end.  AND he won't spend his entire tenure trying to do things just the way he wants, like RTD did.  He'll do what's best for the series as a true fan.  I think it will be a great fit. 

RTD claims to be a fan but in several interviews I've read he always seemed to be putting down parts of the original series...  I think Moffett might be a bigger fan of the show.

Too bad the casting for Coupling on NBC was so bad, the show never had a chance here.  It's sad, the last few commentary tracks Moffett did on the Coupling DVDs he sounded excited about having the show in the USA....
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2008, 10:05:09 AM
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 20, 2008, 10:09:51 AM
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Post by: Tripe on June 20, 2008, 10:10:23 AM
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What?

Not the poster, the first sentence.
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2008, 10:25:30 AM
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What?

Not the poster, the first sentence.

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Post by: Tripe on June 20, 2008, 10:26:35 AM
Sigh. :(

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 20, 2008, 10:26:44 AM
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What?

Not the poster, the first sentence.

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I think he was talking about the "Slashfic Writers" part
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2008, 10:27:34 AM
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What?

Not the poster, the first sentence.

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I think he was talking about the "Slashfic Writers" part

But he said "not the poster."  Tripe, what are you on about?   :P
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Post by: Tripe on June 20, 2008, 10:28:23 AM
You were correct Courtney, and the news is really rather disheartening.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 20, 2008, 10:30:02 AM
You were correct Courtney, and the news is really rather disheartening.

why? we've know since before the series started

well, maybe not everyone

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I'm afraid I was mistaken
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It's all on how you read the last line in your post, it could describe the post itself, or the article which described the characters returning.

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Post by: Tripe on June 20, 2008, 10:34:36 AM
You might have,  I don't pay much attention to things like thisany more.

Primarily because of the dearth of creativity exhibited in that.

I've been very disappointed by the new version of Who, though the comic book isn't too bad so far. :-\

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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2008, 10:38:52 AM
You might have,  I don't pay much attention to things like thisany more.

Primarily because of the dearth of creativity exhibited in that.

I've been very disappointed by the new version of Who, though the comic book isn't too bad so far. :-\



I'm pretty thrilled honestly. 

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 20, 2008, 10:39:49 AM
sometimes I wish I could be disappointed  :-\
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Post by: Tripe on June 20, 2008, 10:41:05 AM
Meh, it's all water treading, could we perhaps not rehash, rehash and rehash s'more?
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Post by: Courtney on June 20, 2008, 10:45:27 AM
Don't you know the R in RTD stands for rehash?  That's all he's done.  But the non-RTD episodes have been great. 
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Post by: Tripe on June 20, 2008, 10:47:37 AM
They've been alright, but still stuck in a bit of a limited milleu.

I don't know, each to their own, it's just not really exciting me all that much :-\
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Post by: dangfish on June 21, 2008, 11:01:36 AM
Don't you know the R in RTD stands for rehash?  That's all he's done.  But the non-RTD episodes have been great. 

What do you mean by the 'non-RTD' episodes? Hasn't he produced all of the new series so far?
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2008, 11:17:28 AM
I mean the ones he didn't write. 
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Post by: Courtney on June 21, 2008, 03:51:54 PM
I mean the ones he didn't write. 

Like Daleks in Manhattan! ;)

HA, Helen Raynor.  The single most incompetent writer in the Who-niverse.

Okay, I would like to somewhat redact my RTD-hatespeak, as he brought it this week.  See Rusty?  When you want to you CAN make really good powerful episodes!  After seeing the "next time" my hopes are even higher for the next two, I just hope the season doesn't end on a cliffhanger.  With only three specials next year, they can't do that to us. 
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Post by: Ortega on June 22, 2008, 12:11:53 AM
yeah!

   This was defintely a good episode.  One of the few times this season that i was defintely glued to the screen.  And the next episode looks to be good as well, plus we get to see the Torchwood gang( Hate the show, but me likey Eve Myles).   Lets hope the season( or series for you limeys) finale is better than last seasons.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 22, 2008, 09:32:31 AM
wow! that was Awesome, and I can't wait for the next one
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Post by: Chaos on June 22, 2008, 07:05:40 PM
Rose's reappearance was even more annoying and stupid than I was braced for. If possible, her teeth are even more prominent and her words are even more incomprehensible than ever before. And she's still as ugly as a moldy brick.

The concept for the episode was okay, but you'd think the universe would have been destroyed a hell of a long time ago if it was that easy to go back and change the past. :P
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Post by: Courtney on June 22, 2008, 07:24:09 PM
I saw a Confessions of a Call Girl behind the scenes type thing and good god, her skin got even worse.  Chid has the worst case of adult acne I've ever seen.
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Post by: Ortega on June 22, 2008, 07:43:16 PM
(http://www.rogertyrrell.com/library/old_record.jpg)

ALL RIGHT!!!!  WE GOT IT!!  Yeah, Rose is ugly. Yeah, Rose is stupid.  I got it. I got it a couple of pages back.  We all knew this was coming, so let's just get through it without juvenile ridicule.
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Post by: Chaos on June 23, 2008, 05:11:03 AM
rowr

=^..^=
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Post by: Courtney on June 25, 2008, 08:58:34 PM
I do not have a Live Journal (or rather I haven't since high school when it first started) but this particular LJ community is my guilty pleasure and this particular posting was quite fitting.

http://community.livejournal.com/ihasatardis/1401284.html
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 27, 2008, 09:38:22 PM
Just saw Forest of the Dead, at the half way point I was about to give up on Moffat, thinking this is no longer Dr. Who, but the ending was great...
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Post by: Fortis on June 28, 2008, 06:40:30 PM
I've never seen an episode of this before since I don't have cable...but I watched the one with the wasp in it, because Felicity Jones is in that episode. And I enjoyed the show, it was fun. Also, she was hot in that episode. Wish she was in more.

I'll probably watch a few more eps, see if I can get into it.
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Post by: Tripe on June 28, 2008, 06:48:24 PM
Also, she was hot in that episode. Wish she was in more.

Check out the recent production of Northanger Abbey, never was Jane Austin so er stirring. :)

She's gorgeous.
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Post by: Ortega on June 28, 2008, 08:36:01 PM
Just finished watching it, snagged it off mininova.

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Post by: Fortis on June 28, 2008, 09:05:31 PM
Also, she was hot in that episode. Wish she was in more.

Check out the recent production of Northanger Abbey, never was Jane Austin so er stirring. :)

She's gorgeous.

That is actually where I first saw her, I hope we see her in more films soon. She's got the acting ability with her beauty, so I hope she is very successful.
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Post by: Tripe on June 29, 2008, 07:18:22 AM
If you go to the BBC website you can listen to her in The Archers every day (I think she's still in it).
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 29, 2008, 07:20:52 AM
Just finished watching it, snagged it off mininova.

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Post by: Tripe on June 29, 2008, 07:22:27 AM
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Post by: mrbasehart on June 30, 2008, 08:29:49 PM
This might interest ya, from the imdb
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Trainspotting star Robert Carlyle is in talks to take over from David Tennant as TV time traveller Dr. Who.

Tennant is rumoured to be leaving the cult BBC TV show at the end of the current series in 2009 and speculation about his replacement is pointing to fellow Scot Carlyle.

Although Tennant has refused to confirm whether he will be quitting his role as the Time Lord, tough guy Carlyle hasn't ruled out stepping into his place.

He says, "Would I do it? Possibly."

Carlyle might get me to watch the show, though I'd like to see someone a little more flamboyant get the role, like Richard E Grant or Rupert Everett.
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Post by: Courtney on June 30, 2008, 08:36:25 PM
I saw that too.  I just don't know if I quite buy it.  I mean, why bother with not having a season next year to allow Tennant time to do Hamlet if he's just going to leave anyway?  Wouldn't it be easier to just let him go at the end of next week?  Plus, we still have all that River Song stuff, unless that's part of one of the specials.

PS - I saw possible (hopefully fake) spoilers for next week and I will be PISSED if this is what happens.

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 01, 2008, 05:31:34 AM
I saw that too.  I just don't know if I quite buy it.  I mean, why bother with not having a season next year to allow Tennant time to do Hamlet if he's just going to leave anyway?  Wouldn't it be easier to just let him go at the end of next week?  Plus, we still have all that River Song stuff, unless that's part of one of the specials.

PS - I saw possible (hopefully fake) spoilers for next week and I will be PISSED if this is what happens.

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Post by: anais.jude on July 01, 2008, 06:06:44 AM
I was just about to post what Basehart posted.

anyway, i don't think robert carlyle would do a very good job. Once you play scary in trainspotting, you don't go back
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 01, 2008, 06:17:09 AM
this is so confusing, some people say Tennant is signed till 2010, but then there's this and the thing at the end of Stolen Earth, and the pics for Journey's end.

y'know who I'd like to see as the Doc, Hugh Grant, or maybe Rowan Atkinson ;)
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Post by: Courtney on July 01, 2008, 06:34:11 AM
y'know who I'd like to see as the Doc, Hugh Grant, or maybe Rowan Atkinson ;)

Or Joanna Lumley. 

I feel as though I'm getting deja vu...   ;)
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Post by: Tripe on July 01, 2008, 07:41:55 AM
This might interest ya, from the imdb
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Trainspotting star Robert Carlyle is in talks to take over from David Tennant as TV time traveller Dr. Who.

Tennant is rumoured to be leaving the cult BBC TV show at the end of the current series in 2009 and speculation about his replacement is pointing to fellow Scot Carlyle.

Although Tennant has refused to confirm whether he will be quitting his role as the Time Lord, tough guy Carlyle hasn't ruled out stepping into his place.

He says, "Would I do it? Possibly."

Carlyle might get me to watch the show, though I'd like to see someone a little more flamboyant get the role, like Richard E Grant or Rupert Everett.

Second on th richard E. Grant choice, though he's already done it once (with Jacobi as the Master no less) and like I said before they could finally get McGann on film again and do The Other Two Doctors in which 8 and 11 pile into the TARDIS to seek out the finest wines known to reality.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: mrbasehart on July 01, 2008, 08:06:23 AM
This might interest ya, from the imdb
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Trainspotting star Robert Carlyle is in talks to take over from David Tennant as TV time traveller Dr. Who.

Tennant is rumoured to be leaving the cult BBC TV show at the end of the current series in 2009 and speculation about his replacement is pointing to fellow Scot Carlyle.

Although Tennant has refused to confirm whether he will be quitting his role as the Time Lord, tough guy Carlyle hasn't ruled out stepping into his place.

He says, "Would I do it? Possibly."

Carlyle might get me to watch the show, though I'd like to see someone a little more flamboyant get the role, like Richard E Grant or Rupert Everett.

Second on th richard E. Grant choice, though he's already done it once (with Jacobi as the Master no less) and like I said before they could finally get McGann on film again and do The Other Two Doctors in which 8 and 11 pile into the TARDIS to seek out the finest wines known to reality.

Yes.  That would be awesome!
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Post by: Courtney on July 05, 2008, 07:42:56 PM
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I need a day or two to consider how I  felt other than that.  It was good. 
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 06, 2008, 05:22:47 AM
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I need a day or two to consider how I  felt other than that.  It was good. 
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I was re-watching all the stuff related to Donna, cause I like her so much, and during Voyage of the Damned all I could think about was
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Post by: Courtney on July 06, 2008, 08:45:42 AM
Okay I've had some time to think now.

Despite what I said before, which is still how I feel, for the most part, I thought it was really good.  Not great, but a good send-off to Russel T. and now Moffat is pretty free to do whatever he wants.

Problems: 
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Can't wait for Christmas.   :)
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Post by: PsypherPunk on July 06, 2008, 03:17:43 PM
Not great, but a good send-off to Russel T.

I think that pretty much sums up my opinions on it. I did enjoy it but it really did seem like a lot of loose ends getting tied up (which, if you didn't follow all the series, seemed like wasted space).

That said, it's still the best season finale we've had in the new series.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 06, 2008, 03:22:35 PM
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Post by: Courtney on July 06, 2008, 04:15:08 PM
Oh can't believe I forgot!

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 06, 2008, 07:39:45 PM
Funny, but kinda spoilerish

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Post by: Chaos on July 07, 2008, 01:40:17 PM
It was an okay episode. Better than what I was expecting going in.

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Overall I'd give it a 6.5 or a 7 out of 10. Pretty good, but I would have rather some of the BS Davies had in there didn't go down that way.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 12, 2008, 06:23:11 PM
Sorry to go back a bit, just watched "Midnight" on Sci-Fi, didn't like it at all...  Sorry RTD, Hitchcock you are NOT, I'm guessing he was going for a "Lifeboat" type episode.

Haven't read the spoilers for the 3 part(?) finale, hope it is better...
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Post by: Courtney on July 12, 2008, 07:29:25 PM
Sorry to go back a bit, just watched "Midnight" on Sci-Fi, didn't like it at all...  Sorry RTD, Hitchcock you are NOT, I'm guessing he was going for a "Lifeboat" type episode.

Haven't read the spoilers for the 3 part(?) finale, hope it is better...

Yeah Midnight was probably my least favorite (along with Doctor's Daughter, though I really enjoyed every other episode this series).  Next week's (on Sci Fi) ep, Turn Left, is one of my favorites of all, so definitely watch.
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Post by: Dim of the Yard on July 12, 2008, 09:17:36 PM
Well guys, I'm pleased to announce to the few who might not have already heard that with my curiosity finally at its peak, I've taken the plunge and have dived head-first into the Doctor Who series.  However, being one who likes seeing things in chronological order, and also being one of an unsound mind, I've started with William Hartnell.  I've up to a reconstruction of episode 3 in the first series (image stills with narration, apparently), and it'll be a long, long time until I get to see Tennant in action.

I'll see you guys in a few years!   ;)
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Post by: Courtney on July 13, 2008, 05:44:23 AM
God speed good Dim. 

I was kind of all over the place watching it growing up, as I feel like it was rarely on PBS in order.  I saw Davison first, then McCoy, then clown suit Baker, then awesome Baker, and ended up seeking out Hartnell, Troughton and Pertwee, it was just all over the place.  Let us know your preferences.
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on July 13, 2008, 08:35:21 PM
Just watched a marathon this weekend. Starting with the last two Christmas specials, then the whole season minus 7 thru 10 (time constraints)

Talk about EPIC!! I was extremely impressed with Davies' final chapters. And Turn Left was outstanding!!!!!


Most impressive.
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Post by: Courtney on July 14, 2008, 07:33:51 AM
I want to watch Turn Left again NOW.

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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on July 14, 2008, 09:05:51 AM
I want to watch Turn Left again NOW.

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MEGA DITTOS!!
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Post by: euphoriafish on July 15, 2008, 05:17:46 PM
Just caught up on this whole thread.  My opinions, let me show you them!

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I liked Tom Baker best of the older Doctors, but my favorite after him was John Pertwee.  This is probably because the first episode I ever saw was The Three Doctors, and then I started watching him again because I wanted to watch every single episode with Sarah Jane.  The Time Warrior,  and the two episodes about Peladon (the Curse of Peladon and The Monster of Peladon), are my favorites and I think they are better than The Planet of the Spiders.

But I am no expert on the series.  I haven't read any novels or heard any audio plays.  The Whoniverse is bigger than me, and I'm fine with collecting it slowly and out of order.  I'm watching the new ones in order as they are released, and old ones in order from the first appearance of Sarah Jane onward, and the rest of it casually as I find I need explanations for something in the new show. I refuse to collect novels or comics until I get my first permanent employment post college, and have a permanent space to collect stuff in.

E - >}}}*>
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Post by: Courtney on July 15, 2008, 06:36:16 PM
The Whoniverse is bigger than all of us!   :D

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 15, 2008, 07:23:18 PM
The Whoniverse is bigger than all of us!   :D

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Post by: Chaos on July 16, 2008, 08:56:28 PM
You remember the bit from Misery where King kept going on and on about the skeleton of the pier pylons that were sticking up out of the water? That's exactly what Piper has coming out of her mouth. It's so bad her voice is actually warped around them. As if she wasn't hard enough to understand already. :P
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Post by: euphoriafish on July 16, 2008, 10:07:41 PM
If you guys are gonna keep harshing on Billie Piper like that, you'd better be at least as good looking as David Tennant yourselves.

As to Donna, I read a rumor that
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  But it was before Season 4 even started, so it's probably not true.  But I'd be happy if she got another season no matter how it happened.
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Post by: Chaos on July 17, 2008, 07:04:14 AM
If you guys are gonna keep harshing on Billie Piper like that, you'd better be at least as good looking as David Tennant yourselves.

That's the least sensical statement I've ever read. Logically, all we would have to do is be better looking that Piper. Which, frankly, 97% of the animal kingdom already accomplishes. :P
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Post by: euphoriafish on July 17, 2008, 10:21:15 AM
You're right.  What was I thinking?  It was a pretty nonsensical statement, considering my point in the first place was to point out that beauty standards are overvalued, your particular standards are unrealistic, and from where I'm standing it looks like Mies Van der Rohe designed your houses.
 :P

Of course, if you are just objecting to the false eyelashes, I have to applaud you there.  I prefer a more natural look myself, and I don't think Piper is a natural blonde.  But then, Georgia Moffett isn't either.  And for an artificial look, Rose pulled it off.
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Post by: Super Monkey Death Car on July 17, 2008, 10:24:20 AM
Dr. What?

...forgive me, it's an attempt to break into an Abbot and Costello routine.  :D

It seems to get better with every doctor, I think!
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Post by: Courtney on July 17, 2008, 11:28:00 AM
If you guys are gonna keep harshing on Billie Piper like that, you'd better be at least as good looking as David Tennant yourselves.

Which, if any of you are?  Call me.
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Post by: Tripe on July 17, 2008, 11:29:19 AM
Just as a matter of interest Court, do you find Jarvis Cocker interesting to look at?
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Post by: Courtney on July 17, 2008, 11:32:16 AM
No.  Loved Pulp, but he's a little greasy messy for me.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 17, 2008, 01:35:01 PM
"I was intense me!"
(http://static.whatsontv.co.uk/images/0795_141829_22395331.jpg)

by the way, the google banner is psychic, because when I thought intense, it showed this
(http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CP3Av5z1wImL6AEQ2AUYTzIIyRZpnNIpphk)
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Post by: Courtney on July 17, 2008, 02:24:32 PM
(http://static.whatsontv.co.uk/images/0795_141829_22395331.jpg)

Le sigh. 
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Post by: Chaos on July 17, 2008, 07:18:34 PM
You're right.  What was I thinking?  It was a pretty nonsensical statement, considering my point in the first place was to point out that beauty standards are overvalued, your particular standards are unrealistic, and from where I'm standing it looks like Mies Van der Rohe designed your houses.
 :P

Of course, if you are just objecting to the false eyelashes, I have to applaud you there.  I prefer a more natural look myself, and I don't think Piper is a natural blonde.  But then, Georgia Moffett isn't either.  And for an artificial look, Rose pulled it off.

Yep, still gibberish. Did you take a class on incomprehensibility or something? You could give lessons.
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Post by: Ortega on July 17, 2008, 10:27:05 PM
Again, give it a rest.  Billie Piper is just midly attractive.  I wouldn't compose sonnets in her honor, but i wouldn't kick her out of bed either.
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Post by: euphoriafish on July 18, 2008, 12:38:59 AM
Ha,  that's what I expected the reactions to be.  But I still had to say something.  I don't like seeing people direct venom and hatred toward people they don't even know.

Now for my next trick, I think I'll go start a flame war with the "Leave Brittany alone!" guy on YouTube.

And am I a nerd for being somewhat attracted to both Christopher Eccleston and Jarvis Cocker?
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Post by: Super Monkey Death Car on July 18, 2008, 08:39:20 AM
Now for my next trick, I think I'll go start a flame war with the "Leave Brittany alone!" guy on YouTube.

Incidentally, did you see the cuts.com treatment of that exact clip?

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Post by: mrbasehart on July 18, 2008, 09:09:20 AM
Heh heh.  Nice!
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Post by: euphoriafish on July 18, 2008, 04:47:46 PM
Yeah, I've seen that clip.  Still fun though.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 18, 2008, 07:06:53 PM
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I don't know how to feel about that, okay
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 19, 2008, 09:32:57 AM
Watched Left Turn both times it was on last night, the idea was really good, I liked the beginning and the ending, but not sure about the middle 2/3rds.  Can't tell if I'm just getting sick of Donna or if it's because Catherine Tate altered her character enough to make me sick of her, I guess I'll go with the later since she is a pretty good actress....
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Post by: Dim of the Yard on July 20, 2008, 10:52:22 PM
Here I come, slow to the finish line!  I'm catching up on you, guys, but no spoilers!   ;)

I've just finished up the third episode of Bill Hartnell's run: the reconstruction of the Edge of Destruction serial.  Because I don't have too much space, I've been trying to move these episodes off of my laptop as soon as possible, but I think I'm going to keep this one.

My God, what a fantastic serial.  This is probably my favorite kind of episode of TV; I always dig it when the shows look into the main characters more, and this episode made some necessary developments in the characters, and made a fantastic serial, to boot.  It was low-budget out of necessity, yes, but due to this, it turned out some great writing and some fantastic performances by the whole cast, Carole Ann Ford in particular.  She was especially marvelous, and her bit with the scissors was very eerie and wonderfully done.  Not too fond of the resolution, but for me, the rest of the episode is so strong that I'm willing to overlook it.

My favorite part may have very well made Hartnell a tough Doctor to top for me.  I've read through Wikipedia that Hartnell had an undiagnosed form of arteriosclerosis, which really messed with his ability to read his lines.  This is also the disease that killed Chico Marx, one of my favorite actors of all-time (if the avatar isn't a big hint), so I have to give major points to Hartnell for working through this, even though his doctors might not have caught onto it.  His speech he gave during the second part, The Brink Of Disaster, where he realizes that the TARDIS is at the very beginning of time and at the beginning of a new solar system is completely mesmerizing and just blew me away completely.  I watched Hartnell stumble through his lines during that very same episode, and the fact that he was able to give such a compelling and well-played speech with such enthusiasm and emotion elevates him to a much higher level.

This may have very well been the serial to get me hooked on this show once and for all.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on July 23, 2008, 05:58:25 PM
Ha,  that's what I expected the reactions to be.  But I still had to say something.  I don't like seeing people direct venom and hatred toward people they don't even know.

Now for my next trick, I think I'll go start a flame war with the "Leave Brittany alone!" guy on YouTube.

And am I a nerd for being somewhat attracted to both Christopher Eccleston and Jarvis Cocker?

Pfft. 9_9 EVERYONE knows that Tennant is the sexiest doctor ever.
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Post by: Chaos on July 23, 2008, 07:18:31 PM
I dunno, I always thought Eccleston was pretty attractive, in a soccer holligan-y sort of way.

My wife still insists that he will be playing the lead role in her fantasy novel once it is adapted to the big screen. It's a perfect fit.
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Post by: Courtney on July 28, 2008, 01:44:32 PM
Interesting comment made my Steven Moffat at the DW panel at Comic Con...

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on July 28, 2008, 04:25:59 PM
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there, now all future questions have been answered
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Post by: Ortega on July 28, 2008, 04:34:36 PM
Interesting comment made my Steven Moffat at the DW panel at Comic Con...

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Now come on , he's everyone's Steven Moffat! ;)
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Post by: Courtney on July 28, 2008, 07:12:29 PM
Interesting comment made my Steven Moffat at the DW panel at Comic Con...

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Now come on , he's everyone's Steven Moffat! ;)

D'oh!  Typing is hard and stuff.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on July 30, 2008, 04:21:58 PM
I think we should find whoever is responsible for selecting footage in the "next episode" trailers, then send them strongly worded petitions to get with the program, and/or attack them with hammers. You should be able to catch 0.03 seconds of it without blowing a major plot point. >.o

Also, magazines should restrict their covers a bit. Srsly. x.x That damn borders store magazine rack spoiled one of the big shocks of The Stolen Earth.
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Post by: Courtney on July 30, 2008, 05:18:04 PM
I think we should find whoever is responsible for selecting footage in the "next episode" trailers, then send them strongly worded petitions to get with the program, and/or attack them with hammers. You should be able to catch 0.03 seconds of it without blowing a major plot point. >.o

Also, magazines should restrict their covers a bit. Srsly. x.x That damn borders store magazine rack spoiled one of the big shocks of The Stolen Earth.

Which one?  The Red Dalek?

The BBC promo department awes me.  I mean they seriously release really spoilery pictures. 
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on July 30, 2008, 07:24:28 PM
Yup. I also accidently caught a glimpse of
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Post by: Fortis on July 30, 2008, 07:27:41 PM
I should really get into this show...I watched the one with Felicity Jones in it, the Unicorn and the Wasp episode and really liked it...too bad I don't have cable...oh well
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Post by: Chaos on July 30, 2008, 07:55:52 PM
I should really get into this show...I watched the one with Felicity Jones in it, the Unicorn and the Wasp episode and really liked it...too bad I don't have cable...oh well

They have this amazing new invention, you might have heard of it. It's called "the internet" I think... ;)
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on July 30, 2008, 08:35:16 PM
Also, you can watch the whole new series (and much of the old ones) on netflix.
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Post by: Courtney on July 30, 2008, 09:32:04 PM
I should really get into this show...I watched the one with Felicity Jones in it, the Unicorn and the Wasp episode and really liked it...too bad I don't have cable...oh well

I wholeheartedly recommend any and all Martha Jones episodes.  I love her dearly.
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Post by: Fortis on July 30, 2008, 09:52:36 PM
I should really get into this show...I watched the one with Felicity Jones in it, the Unicorn and the Wasp episode and really liked it...too bad I don't have cable...oh well

They have this amazing new invention, you might have heard of it. It's called "the internet" I think... ;)

that thing Gore invented? I'm a republican I don't do that stuff.  ;D

I should really get into this show...I watched the one with Felicity Jones in it, the Unicorn and the Wasp episode and really liked it...too bad I don't have cable...oh well

I wholeheartedly recommend any and all Martha Jones episodes.  I love her dearly.

Its been rough being so close to a mission, I've had all these great TV show recommendations and lots of books I want to read. I mean I've got 5 packages I pre-ordered from amazon coming after i leave! I won't see them for two years!

So yeah...maybe when I get back I'll start watching it.
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Post by: Courtney on August 01, 2008, 04:06:23 PM
You can't watch TV while you're on your mission?!

Jeepers, you're more than a missionary, you're a saint.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 01, 2008, 08:42:32 PM
OK, made it through the marathon of commercials Sci-Fi packed into the season finale.
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Post by: Fortis on August 01, 2008, 08:53:34 PM
You can't watch TV while you're on your mission?!

Jeepers, you're more than a missionary, you're a saint.

Yeah, they are pretty hardcore when it comes to missionaries. Even though I'm going to be walking around and talking to all sorts of people, I'm not really going to be a part of this world...they really try to separate us from anything and everything that might distract us. I'm allowed to bring my Zune, but I can have only certain things on it, and they want me to bring a small set of speakers since earphones aren't allowed....Its hardcore.



But on a side note, my sister came home from the library with the complete second season of Dr. Who, so I guess I will be getting into this before I leave.
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Post by: Courtney on August 02, 2008, 07:31:45 AM
You can't watch TV while you're on your mission?!

Jeepers, you're more than a missionary, you're a saint.

Yeah, they are pretty hardcore when it comes to missionaries. Even though I'm going to be walking around and talking to all sorts of people, I'm not really going to be a part of this world...they really try to separate us from anything and everything that might distract us. I'm allowed to bring my Zune, but I can have only certain things on it, and they want me to bring a small set of speakers since earphones aren't allowed....Its hardcore.



But on a side note, my sister came home from the library with the complete second season of Dr. Who, so I guess I will be getting into this before I leave.

OOOH OOH, do not leave before you watch The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit two parter, it's amazing.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on August 02, 2008, 12:09:02 PM
OK, made it through the marathon of commercials Sci-Fi packed into the season finale.
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Seriously though, this was sad. I wept for hours afterwards. ;-;

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on August 02, 2008, 01:00:12 PM
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Post by: Courtney on August 02, 2008, 01:08:43 PM
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2008, 09:44:06 AM
Get thee to The Courtyard (http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2008/aug/06/theatre.rsc) Courtney. Oh and while you're in Stratford, reckon you could stop by my mum's house to pick up some of my cds? ;)

Also, Patrick Bleeding Stewart!
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Post by: Courtney on August 06, 2008, 10:29:38 AM
Get thee to The Courtyard (http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2008/aug/06/theatre.rsc) Courtney. Oh and while you're in Stratford, reckon you could stop by my mum's house to pick up some of my cds? ;)

Also, Patrick Bleeding Stewart!

Believe me, sir, I know.  Don't rub it in.  It hurts that I can't be there.
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2008, 10:30:49 AM
I can't be either, I'd like to see the Courtyard before the take it down.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on August 06, 2008, 04:15:22 PM
I should really get into this show...I watched the one with Felicity Jones in it, the Unicorn and the Wasp episode and really liked it...too bad I don't have cable...oh well

I wholeheartedly recommend any and all Martha Jones episodes.  I love her dearly.

I enjoyed most of them, but martha jones had the weakest season finale of all. =/
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on August 06, 2008, 04:34:27 PM
The writers often didn't do her justice, I've stated that around here ad nauseum.  But Freema was so great that you almost don't notice how terrible it was that they made her a sadsack schoolgirl in love with The Doctor.  (just kidding, yes you do)
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Post by: dangfish on August 15, 2008, 06:25:39 PM
Was Torchwood cancelled?
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Post by: Courtney on September 11, 2008, 12:32:11 PM
Okay.

I still haven't seen the end of S4, but after reading about it on Wikipedia, it sounds like the absolute worst fanfic garbage ever constructed. Two Doctors? Jesus H Tapdancing Christ, why don't we just make it a series about ponies and rainbows and pretty happy cottages where the doctor gets married to his companion? Fucking nauseating.

Eh, do give it a watch.  The two Doctors bit doesn't end up being nearly as bad as I thought it would be when I saw the spoiler a week or so beforehand
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  Plus the Donna part more than makes up for it in sheer awesome
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Moffat has stuff he needs to fix for me before he starts thinking about a movie.
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Post by: Tripe on September 11, 2008, 12:45:12 PM
Oh, and apparently there's talk of Paul McGann reprising his role as the 8th Doctor for segments of the TIME WAR!!! in the Xmas specials.

Best news about the new series that I've heard in ages  :highfive:
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Post by: Tripe on September 11, 2008, 12:54:10 PM
See honestly I kind of like the comic books better than the tv series right now.

And yes that wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 11, 2008, 01:16:40 PM
After watching S4, I can't help but like Donna. I'm one of those who liked Donna more and more as the series progressed. The thing about the season that angered me the most was the pushing of the tired old ideals. We KNOW the Doctor would never use guns to hurt others. WE KNOW!! We don't need to be treated like 5 year olds being slapped on the hand for misbehaving. It angered me.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 11, 2008, 01:28:12 PM
I think the whole point of having Donna as a companion is to give a voice to the everywoman out there who wants to be his companion, and the Doctor simply tolerates her, knowing she's flawed, but he is compassionate.
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Post by: Courtney on September 11, 2008, 01:40:29 PM
I think that's why I love the finale as much as I do.

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Post by: Courtney on September 11, 2008, 01:52:28 PM
*grumbles bitterly for the trillionth time about how awesome Martha could have been if they hadn't made her a lovesick little girl*
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Post by: Tripe on September 11, 2008, 02:26:44 PM
*grumbles bitterly for the trillionth time about how awesome Martha could have been if they hadn't made her a lovesick little girl*

And that is party why I like the comics, even the comic book writers can see Martha's the most interesting companion.
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Post by: Courtney on September 11, 2008, 02:32:11 PM
I want to personally slap RTD many many times.  For many reasons (Tinkerbell Jesus Doctor at the end of Last of the Time Lords is a close second place) but mostly for Martha.
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Post by: Tripe on September 21, 2008, 06:41:39 PM
Might have to find a copy of that.

The reprints of the old strips are going to feature some of the Seventh Doctor Strips starting next month. After Baker, McCoy's my favorite.
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 24, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
Saw this and thought of you all....

http://www.firebox.com/product/1713/Doctor-Who-Tardis-4-Way-USB-Hub (http://www.firebox.com/product/1713/Doctor-Who-Tardis-4-Way-USB-Hub)

(http://media3.firebox.com/pic/p1713b.jpg)

(http://www.firebox.com/pic/p1713ex1.gif)
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Post by: Chaos on September 24, 2008, 12:03:43 PM
That's awesome. :D

We wants it, precious...
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on September 27, 2008, 09:20:29 PM
I've always thought it would be cool to get some non-human companions, or at least, companions of an alien race that didn't look, sound, and think exactly like humans, and lack any noteworthy anatomical differences. The human-simulcrums seem to be crowding the whole bloody galaxy. >_<

Naturally, they'd need to be able to pass for human to avoid awkward questions, but a good overcoat, maybe an elastic mask or something (if the green-goey one-eyed badguy in Paris: City of Death could do it, why not somebody else?) I'd looove to see a tall, chubby woman with a pair of tentacles, retractable claws, and a taste for canned meat (as in, the derogatory term for cyborgs with so little organic parts they barely count as organic life, of which Daleks and Cybermen are prime examples)
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 29, 2008, 08:10:47 AM
Yeah, some nonhuman companions would be neat.

Adric was human?  :P

Seriously though...it's probably make-up costs and just dealing with it.

Besides, the closest they ever got was K-9...and dealing with that breaking down during filming all the time was a pain.   ;)
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Post by: Tripe on September 29, 2008, 08:11:53 AM
Baker couldn't stand K9 either.
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 29, 2008, 08:17:47 AM
Baker couldn't stand K9 either.

Oh.....you can tell that in certain episodes.   ;)

Baker is a really good actor but even he couldn't always hide that.
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Post by: Tripe on September 29, 2008, 08:27:43 AM
Thing is he really liked John Leeson though, he goes on at length in his book about how he wished they'd made K( a character that leeson could have played on screen instead of simply providing the voice.
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 29, 2008, 08:35:12 AM
Thing is he really liked John Leeson though, he goes on at length in his book about how he wished they'd made K( a character that leeson could have played on screen instead of simply providing the voice.

Well, then what Baker actually hated is that K-9 was a cheap, mock up of a special-effect (probably just caniballized a radio control car).  If the thing had worked properly it probably wouldn't have been a problem....except for the wear and tear on his knees to get into a two-shot with it.   ;)
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 30, 2008, 01:34:26 PM
Yeah, some nonhuman companions would be neat.

Adric was human?  :P

Seriously though...it's probably make-up costs and just dealing with it.

Besides, the closest they ever got was K-9...and dealing with that breaking down during filming all the time was a pain.   ;)

I'm fine with them calling Adric and Turlough nonhumans to save on SFX. I just want a nonhuman perspective on the show, instead of a sub-moronic teenager or middle-aged harridan.
My question was more of a shot at Adric (and the "actor" who played him) than an actual question.   ;)
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Post by: mrbasehart on October 29, 2008, 09:24:48 PM
Here's some news for you Who-fans, from the BBC's website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7698539.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7698539.stm)

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David Tennant is to stand down as Doctor Who, after becoming one of the most popular Time Lords in the history of the BBC science fiction show.

Tennant stepped into the Tardis in 2005, and will leave the role after four special episodes are broadcast next year.

He made the announcement after winning the outstanding drama performance prize at the National Television Awards.

"When Doctor Who returns in 2010 it won't be with me," he said.

   
I don't ever want it to feel like a job, so I want to move on when it still feels exciting and fresh

"Now don't make me cry," he added. "I love this part, and I love this show so much that if I don't take a deep breath and move on now I never will, and you'll be wheeling me out of the Tardis in my bath chair."
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on October 29, 2008, 10:36:16 PM
Wow, that's big news. Last I heard he was entertaining the idea of another season.

That's too bad, he was quite good in the role, despite having shitty companions and many shitty stories.

I guess it's good that he leaves now before his portrayal becomes stale...

I quite enjoyed him as the doctor, and I personally loved almost all the episodes with him in them.
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Post by: PsypherPunk on October 30, 2008, 01:05:44 AM
I think giving us a year's notice is a mixed blessing - while it gives those of us who'll miss him time to come to terms with it, it means we potentially have to put up with a whole year of "Guess Who('ll Play the Next Doctor)".
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Post by: Tripe on October 30, 2008, 05:10:44 AM
Well maybe now he can be The Riddler like I want him to be.

Oh and Mark Gatiss for 11 :)
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Post by: Courtney on October 30, 2008, 07:18:50 AM
It's a good thing I was already at work when I heard this.  Otherwise I actually don't think I'd have come in.
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Post by: mrbasehart on October 30, 2008, 07:32:08 AM
The BBC say that this guy, Patterson Joseph, is the favourite:

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45156000/jpg/_45156042_923d8ccb-0c33-46cf-a4b4-6db27325edc0.jpg)

Odd that the BBC, who's in charge of this kind of thing, would offer up odds on who the next Doctor will be.
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Post by: mrbasehart on October 30, 2008, 08:08:57 AM
He's in The Green Wing.  Series 2 though, I think.
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Post by: awfulgoodmovies on October 30, 2008, 09:17:11 AM
Wow! Tennant stepping aside?

I really like his Doctor, but I think this is a good thing......leave while you're on top.

Dr. Who is more a nostalgia trip for me. Pertwee, Baker, Davison for me.
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Post by: Tripe on October 30, 2008, 10:42:31 AM
Well maybe now he can be The Riddler like I want him to be.

Oh and Mark Gatiss for 11 :)

He played Dr. Lazarus, right? The pasty ginger guy?

Yes, that's the one. Here he is playing the Doctor:

http://www.youtube.com/v/mQmG3QmFCh4&hl=en&fs=1

Colin Baker was in the show before being the Doctor as well. Not to mention Lalla Ward turning up right before Romana regenerated into her (now admittedly they made that part of the plot).


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Post by: Tripe on October 30, 2008, 11:01:05 AM
I like him.

Having said that this casting:

The BBC say that this guy, Patterson Joseph, is the favourite:
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45156000/jpg/_45156042_923d8ccb-0c33-46cf-a4b4-6db27325edc0.jpg)

Will be a godsend to the Daily Mail.

I think Who is actually quasi-independently produced.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on October 30, 2008, 11:03:14 PM
I'm not sure about this guy.

He just doesn't look like the Doctor to me.

It's nothing to do with his being black it's just this feeling I can't shake that he doesn't look the part.

Maybe after I seem him in costume my mind will change.


I will give his a fair shot if he gets the part I just hope they are not casting him because "after 40+ years it's about time we had a black Doctor and it doesn't matter if the actor is any good as long as he is black"

As long as that is not going on i will be happy.
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Post by: PsypherPunk on October 31, 2008, 03:56:04 AM
Heh, I remember him from his days back in Casualty. He gets my vote, if only as he was the Marquis de Carabas in Neverwhere and is therefore awesome.
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Post by: Tripe on October 31, 2008, 04:59:58 AM
Oh that's who that is, oh yes then he might very well be a good choice. :)
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on October 31, 2008, 07:42:28 AM
The BBC say that this guy, Patterson Joseph, is the favourite:

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45156000/jpg/_45156042_923d8ccb-0c33-46cf-a4b4-6db27325edc0.jpg)

Odd that the BBC, who's in charge of this kind of thing, would offer up odds on who the next Doctor will be.


I'm sure it's Moffat's call as show-runner.  Just cos they sign the checks doesn't mean they cast the shows.

I'm not sure about this guy.

He just doesn't look like the Doctor to me.

It's nothing to do with his being black it's just this feeling I can't shake that he doesn't look the part.

Maybe after I seem him in costume my mind will change.


I will give his a fair shot if he gets the part I just hope they are not casting him because "after 40+ years it's about time we had a black Doctor and it doesn't matter if the actor is any good as long as he is black"

As long as that is not going on i will be happy.

He does look really serious in that photo, but that's no indication of how he'll play the doctor if he gets the part. Maybe they'd go for a slightly more serious doctor, to which I'm sure this guy could deliver in spades...
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Post by: EVOLUTION117 on October 31, 2008, 10:59:54 AM

I'm sure it's Moffat's call as show-runner.  Just cos they sign the checks doesn't mean they cast the shows.

This guy was apparently IN some Who--Parting of the Ways? I have no recollection of him.

He's the guy who was on 'The Weakest Link' with Rose, hoping that she would be killed instead of him. Also whining about his money and stuff and saying that the Daleks attacking was a load of Rubbish.
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Post by: Tripe on November 05, 2008, 06:11:12 PM
OK so there's a different rumor doing the rounds.

Do not click if you have high blood pressure.
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Post by: Tripe on November 05, 2008, 06:17:00 PM
I think (hope) someone in the production crew is having a laugh.
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Post by: Tripe on November 05, 2008, 06:20:43 PM
I'm telling you Gatiss is the best choice, his sex appeal is about zero, possibly anti-appeal.
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Post by: Tripe on November 05, 2008, 06:23:55 PM
And I'd actually dig a slightly more serious version of The Web of Caves as the style for his stories. There would be an echo of DNA to them.  :)
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Post by: Doctor Who? on November 05, 2008, 06:46:45 PM
Well I just want you all to know that if this happens i will only be watching the 1963-1989 run of the show,i will count everything else as a bad remake.

Also i know hate RTD with a flaming passion.
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Post by: Courtney on November 06, 2008, 11:24:13 AM
Since the very thought of Tripe's post up there made me lose my appetite, here's some terrible Dalek cakes.

http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/2008/10/guest-blogger-great-white-snark.html (http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/2008/10/guest-blogger-great-white-snark.html)

PS - re: the rest of the BBC article, rroowwrr Tom Ellis.  I concur that we need a sexless Doctor, but since the fangirls will assign sexiness regardless, no harm in checking out a few pretty ones before they get cast aside for someone right for the role.
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Post by: Tripe on November 06, 2008, 11:26:45 AM
Since the very thought of Tripe's post up there made me lose my appetite

Aww, Gatiss isn't that bad ;)
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Post by: Courtney on November 06, 2008, 11:32:08 AM
Oh YOU.
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Post by: EVOLUTION117 on November 06, 2008, 11:38:32 AM
*Reads the 'Spoiler'*

Relax people, there's nothing there to suggest that this is it all going to happen. Seems to be more of a general 'hypothetical' question posed to our dear Mr. Tennant. So just settle down.

Personally, I'd still like to throw out a vote for one Eddie Izzard.

Or maybe Paul Bettany.

Or Alan Tudyk.

Robert Carlyle if he dies during the '24' Movie.

Bill Bailey maybe.

And yes, I am just spouting names of the top of my head.

BRING BACK ROWAN ATKINSON I SAY!
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Post by: Tripe on November 06, 2008, 11:41:26 AM
Bill Bailey maybe.
Well the TARDIS sound is made by dragging a set of keys across the wires of a piano, so maybe the Doctor could actually be seen doing that.
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Post by: mrbasehart on November 06, 2008, 01:22:49 PM
Let's go upper class and get Richard E Grant or Rupert Everett.  I might watch then.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on November 06, 2008, 02:11:04 PM
Let's go upper class and get Richard E Grant or Rupert Everett.  I might watch then.

I'm Tripe and I approve this message, especially the Withnail reunion possibilities inherent in casting Richard E. Grant.

You know back in the day Richard Griffiths was considered as the Doctor (I think for Five).
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Post by: Chaos on November 06, 2008, 06:34:09 PM
Seriously, if I see Piper's skanky, mush-faced ass on that show one more time, in any capacity, I'm never fucking watching it again.
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Post by: bratpop on November 07, 2008, 07:04:11 AM
I want to know why the hell it will take all of next year to make the next season. It's not a movie.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 07, 2008, 07:16:13 AM
Some of the English newspapers are reporting that Colin Salmon has been approached to play Doctor Who.  If you don't know him, he was Charles in the Pierce Brosnan Bond movies, and he appeared as Dr Moon in Dr Who.
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Post by: bratpop on November 07, 2008, 07:16:31 AM
Er, so are they new doctor movies or David Tennant movies? All I heard was, "Tennant Who no more, new doctor when the show comes back in 2010." You'd think the movies would be mentioned in that statement, which I paraphrased.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on November 07, 2008, 07:16:37 AM
I think the year long break is just to allow the new producer a chance settle in and to make any changes he wants to make with out having to worry about a deadline that is only a few months away.
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Post by: Courtney on November 07, 2008, 08:01:11 AM
Er, so are they new doctor movies or David Tennant movies? All I heard was, "Tennant Who no more, new doctor when the show comes back in 2010." You'd think the movies would be mentioned in that statement, which I paraphrased.

Tennant.  The show was put on a break for this year with just 3 "specials" airing (should be longer than a standard ep, but I might be wrong--the last few have been) starring his Doctor.  We have not, after all, had a regeneration scene yet, which will have to feature in the last of these movies, so they need to cast the new Doc before they finish that.

And the break, I believe, was to allow Tennant to be in Hamlet.


I remember hearing it was a combo of RTD leaving and Moffat taking over and Hamlet.  I feel as though I heard the break came first and that's why Tennant took Hamlet, but that might have been incorrect.
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Post by: bratpop on November 07, 2008, 08:23:32 AM
It's always Hamlet's fault. Fucking Hamlet. Why would you name your kid after a small village anyway.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Chaos on November 07, 2008, 12:49:31 PM
Maybe small villages were named after HIM. Think about it, man...
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on November 08, 2008, 05:19:06 AM
Okay, how do small villages resemble the first emo guy?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: mrbasehart on November 08, 2008, 06:44:49 AM
Okay, how do small villages resemble the first emo guy?

They're small, lonely, and far too concerned with their sister city?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ninjew on November 08, 2008, 11:58:13 AM
The break was intentional, as the original creative team was leaving.  The time off was required to get the new team up to speed and allow them to get their own ideas off the ground.

Tennant took the time off to pursue Hamlet (and other things).

We still have a total of five specials to look forward to (1 xmas this year, three specials next year and a final xmas one next year) before his run is officially over.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on November 08, 2008, 04:40:45 PM
SPOILER TAGZ PLZKTHX! >_<
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on December 14, 2008, 03:52:42 PM
A sneak preview of the 2008 Christmas special:

http://www.youtube.com/v/IVT6LXK1KMA&hl=en&fs=1

Let the speculations, BEGIN!!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on December 15, 2008, 05:45:44 AM
Damn Fern looks terrible.

Nice preview though.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on December 15, 2008, 04:54:36 PM
Where the hell do I watch this crap show online? I can't find it. Anywhere. Especially at the sites where people say it's available. It seems like they don't have it even MORE than other sites.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on December 23, 2008, 03:06:32 PM
Why are the DVDs so expensive? There's only 13 episodes a season, comparable to U.S. cable shows. And you can get Eureka for twenty bucks. $ GOUGE.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on December 23, 2008, 07:22:46 PM
It has to do with how TV works in the UK.

Her the actors are just paid a % of what the dVd makes,over there a dVd sale is counted the same as a rerun so the actors get repeat fees for every dVd sold so the disc cost a lot more.

At least that is how a member of the DWRT explained it a couple years ago.
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Post by: Ortega on December 24, 2008, 11:30:24 PM
And here's the trailer.
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/4Nx5lMbLEqA&hl=en&fs=1
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on December 25, 2008, 05:38:26 AM
Is Dervla Kirwin playing a regeneration of The Rani?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on December 25, 2008, 04:37:45 PM
FYI, the episode is up on Mininova.org & isohunt.com.....
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Post by: mrbasehart on January 03, 2009, 10:07:10 AM
And the new Doctor is....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7808697.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7808697.stm)

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on January 03, 2009, 10:23:57 AM
At least it's not Rose.

Still I was hoping for an older actor next,I thought Tenent was a little too young.

I will try to with hold judgment until i see his first episode.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on January 03, 2009, 11:34:38 AM
With RTD making his exit along with Tennant, hopefully we'll be spared that a bit.....
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Post by: Tripe on January 03, 2009, 12:16:44 PM
He sort of looks a bit Russell Brandy in that interview.
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Post by: bratpop on January 03, 2009, 05:54:00 PM
Right, because he has to act like the person you say he resembles, but doesn't.
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on January 03, 2009, 05:55:45 PM
Right, because he has to act like the person you say he resembles, but doesn't.

curse your logic, let 'em have the hate
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Post by: Tripe on January 03, 2009, 06:10:06 PM
Right, because he has to act like the person you say he resembles, but doesn't.

Actually I was more talking about his delivery rather than appearance. So I am talking about how he was acting :)
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Post by: bratpop on January 03, 2009, 06:20:34 PM
Right, because he has to act like the person you say he resembles, but doesn't.

Bratpop: Go fuck yourself. With something large and painful.

Never speak again. Ever.

You might have your faults, but at least you don't overreact to things.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on January 03, 2009, 06:52:31 PM
I know. You should eat more.
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Post by: Tripe on February 05, 2009, 04:48:19 PM
That is better, where's it from?

Oh and I rewatched a bunch of episodes from the last series today. I really like Donna (and more importantly the dynamic between her and the Doctor), I wish she'd had more episodes.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on February 06, 2009, 10:13:16 AM
That is better, where's it from?

Oh and I rewatched a bunch of episodes from the last series today. I really like Donna (and more importantly the dynamic between her and the Doctor), I wish she'd had more episodes.

it was from the animated sixty minute webcast Realtime and yes it is much better and I always picture Colin in that outfit whenever listing to a Big Finish audio.

JNT had awful taste at the end of his run as producer,he ran the show into the ground when it came to costumes,guest actor,and writers.  Still it's not all his fault since he had been asking to be allowed to leave since 83 but the BBC wouldn't let him.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: a pretty girl is like on February 17, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
The new guy was rather good in the two Sally  Lockhart adaptations for Masterpiece Theater. 
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Post by: Tripe on February 17, 2009, 07:33:32 AM
Well this picture is promising at least:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/be/11thdoctor.jpg)

So does the schedule mean that one of the specials will deal with River Song and the Doctor?

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Post by: Courtney on February 17, 2009, 07:53:27 AM
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Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 17, 2009, 08:16:28 AM
I haven't had a chance to watch season four yet but I sure hope the TimeLords come back at some point.

I think now that SFX have come so far there are some interesting things you can do with them that were only hinted at in the old show.
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Post by: Tripe on February 17, 2009, 08:18:01 AM
"River" was a shitty copout. She should've been Benny Summerfield.

Only for people who've read the New Adventures, which frankly isn't the majority of those in the audience for the new show.

So while her genesis is obvious to those who know, within the narrative of the TV show she's an entirely new character. You're never going to see Her in the show and neither, I suspect, will we see any of the genetic loom business or the like.

Or Madame President Romanadvoratrelundar come to that but I would like to see Romana back
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 17, 2009, 08:31:00 AM
"River" was a shitty copout. She should've been Benny Summerfield.

Only for people who've read the New Adventures, which frankly isn't the majority of those in the audience for the new show.

So while her genesis is obvious to those who know, within the narrative of the TV show she's an entirely new character. You're never going to see Her in the show and neither, I suspect, will we see any of the genetic loom business or the like.

Or Madame President Romanadvoratrelundar come to that but I would like to see Romana back

Yeah I am really hoping they bring back Romana at some point.

Oh and that whole loom thing was one of the dumdest things ever so i hope they keep it out of the show.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 17, 2009, 08:39:44 AM
Some fans who didn't like the idea that at some point in the past The Doctor had a real family decided to make all the TimeLords clones and the only reason Susan calls him Grandpa was because she was a clone of the Doctor.

It was a stupid idea to fix a problem that wasn't a problem.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 17, 2009, 08:44:20 AM
I haven't had a chance to see season 4 yet(been catching up on my classic episodes that I haven't watched in about a year)so i don't know.
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Post by: Tripe on February 17, 2009, 11:00:49 AM
Some fans who didn't like the idea that at some point in the past The Doctor had a real family decided to make all the TimeLords clones and the only reason Susan calls him Grandpa was because she was a clone of the Doctor.

It was a stupid idea to fix a problem that wasn't a problem.

Sort of, it was a stupid idea but what happened was this:

The Time Lords were all sterile for some reason (some sort of curse I think) so they created these looms to continue the population.

OK so keep that in your mind.

Right now Along with Rassilon and Omega there was "The Other" another god like Time Lord with gut melting talent and power who disagreed with the other two and who threw himself into the looms (again the details are too dull for me to recall to much, lets say he did it for shits and giggles).

Alright but see "The Other" was one of the last generation of Time Lords to be able to procreate. One of the offspring of "The Other" had a daughter named Susan.

Lo! and Behold! the genetic material of "The Other" was combined with new stuff that turned out Good Ol' Thete, or The Doctor.

So The Doctor is toddling around Gallifrey one afternoon and he bumps into Susan, who recognizes him, or rather the genetic material inside him, as her Grandfather.

But yeah I couldn't stand that either, it's utterly stupid, what the big deal about a Time Lord and a Time lLady loving each other very much (or having consumed one too many Karnian Jagermeisters) and producing lil Time Lord Babies (Time Lord Babies, they'll make your dreams come true)?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on February 17, 2009, 11:07:45 AM
Well that and explaining why Susan kept calling him grandfather.

I mean just because a bloke is not up for a bit of the old in-n-out most of the time doesn't mean he never is.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on February 17, 2009, 11:25:47 AM
As I said it was stupid.

I always just assumed that at some point before the show The Doctor had a family(he was about 350 when we first met him)and that something bad happened and he had to go on the run with Susan.

Also i figured 1)it's a kids show so they are not going to put sex scenes in it,2)maybe he just doesn't like alien woman that way,or 3)he's a Bertie Wooster type character and he just doesn't go in for that sort of thing.

Also who knows maybe he is so in love with his wife(whoever that may be) that he just doesn't look at other woman that way.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 17, 2009, 11:53:08 AM
I'm adding season 4 to the top of my Q today.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on February 18, 2009, 11:15:25 PM
You guys lost me. Books are stupid.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2009, 06:37:16 AM
See I rather liked the one McGann had.

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Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2009, 06:42:56 AM
See I thought the Victorian junk-shop was more in keeping with the Doctor's general persona than the (mostly created due to budgetry considerations) clean lines of the previous TARDISes.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on March 03, 2009, 11:57:21 AM
Agreed that this sounds stupid.

Equally stupid is the device used in "The Doctor's Daughter," which I won't "ruin" for you. But it could've been so much better.

Every season has to have its "Love and Monsters" and "TDD" was that.  Terrible.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2009, 02:08:31 PM
See it might be cool if they did a dual regeneration (not done one of those I don't think) where the Doctor and the interior of the  TARDIS went through a change of appearance.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 03, 2009, 04:41:38 PM
He was able to change it in the past,I just assumed that that part had broken down.  I guess he will be fixing it.

I think the console room in An Unearthly child was the best one.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2009, 06:24:15 PM
Yes that one's good too, the console itself could be a bit more prominent.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: mrbasehart on March 03, 2009, 06:31:52 PM
Excuse my snobbery, but that's the sort of thing that would put me off watching Dr Who.  :)  I've never had the ability to look past the cheapness of everything to enjoy it.  Not even the new series. 
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Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2009, 06:35:14 PM
Well it was no Blake's Seven, that's for sure.  ;)
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 03, 2009, 06:41:18 PM
Excuse my snobbery, but that's the sort of thing that would put me off watching Dr Who.  :)  I've never had the ability to look past the cheapness of everything to enjoy it.  Not even the new series. 

So you hate every movie or tv show no matter how well acted or written once it gets over 18 months old?

Also the season 14 console room never looked cheap to me.
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Post by: mrbasehart on March 03, 2009, 06:41:54 PM
Excuse my snobbery, but that's the sort of thing that would put me off watching Dr Who.  :)  I've never had the ability to look past the cheapness of everything to enjoy it.  Not even the new series. 

So you hate every movie or tv show no matter how well acted or written once it gets over 18 months old?

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 03, 2009, 06:44:56 PM
Excuse my snobbery, but that's the sort of thing that would put me off watching Dr Who.  :)  I've never had the ability to look past the cheapness of everything to enjoy it.  Not even the new series. 

So you hate every movie or tv show no matter how well acted or written once it gets over 18 months old?

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

All SFX look cheap and dated after about 18 months.

I'm just wondering at what point you think something looks to cheap to be any good.

As I said I think the season 14 console room looks pretty good even for today.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: mrbasehart on March 03, 2009, 06:48:41 PM
All SFX look cheap and dated after about 18 months.

No they don't.  The special effects for lots of movies over 18 months old look pretty good.  I'd even say that film around 24 months old look good, though that's pushing it.

Really? Obviously the studio lights wouldn't be in the shot.  I think it looks quite nice.

Yeah, I don't know what it is about Dr Who.  I think it might be because it's an English show.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 03, 2009, 06:55:29 PM
All SFX look cheap and dated after about 18 months.

No they don't.  The special effects for lots of movies over 18 months old look pretty good.  I'd even say that film around 24 months old look good, though that's pushing it.

Really? Obviously the studio lights wouldn't be in the shot.  I think it looks quite nice.

Yeah, I don't know what it is about Dr Who.  I think it might be because it's an English show.


Also I feel a should point out that for most of it's run Doctor Who was filler for to keep families watching on Saturday nights in be tween big shows.  it's only in recent years that it has become a flag ship series for most of it's run it was on the air because nothing that was just as cheap would keep people tuned in.

So you don't watch anything over 2 years old?

Well i was close with 18 months.

That's cool but I really think you are missing out on some of the best written and acted stuff even made for TV or movies.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 03, 2009, 06:58:49 PM
I wasn't talking about just doctor who.

There are tons of movies and TV shows out there that are not state of the art SFX wise but are still very good.

Look at I Claudius.  Just a few cheap sets but they got some really good actors and it comes off as one of the most epic things ever produced for TV.
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Post by: Tripe on March 03, 2009, 07:00:25 PM
As well as giving us the best beginning for Blackadder of all four series.

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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 03, 2009, 07:02:45 PM
Also Fawlty Towers.  There were points when the walls almost fell down.

Not to mention Monty Python.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 03, 2009, 07:17:55 PM
Also Fawlty Towers.  There were points when the walls almost fell down.


They -did- in fact come down. But that's Mr. O'Reilly for you.

Polly!  What have you done to my Hotel!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 03, 2009, 07:21:17 PM
You watch it!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on March 03, 2009, 08:34:23 PM
I'd rather they take the redesign money and show us THE REST OF THE TARDIS. Like, show the alternate angle. When they go to the loo, show them walking through a door. Show a hallway. Show the Doctor's hammock. Throw in a window. Something. In fact, they should have the new Doctor get locked in the TARDIS and spend the whole season in there. It's big enough.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on March 11, 2009, 03:44:46 AM
Que?
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Post by: Tripe on March 11, 2009, 07:18:56 AM
Oh, well that's not very good.
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Post by: Courtney on March 11, 2009, 07:20:27 AM
I dunno about a whole season, but I'd love a bottle show or two.  They can revisit the "Zero Room" and we'll hear the cloister bell again, etc.

We did hear the cloister bell in "Turn Left".  But it was overshadowed by all the Rose-iness (and her weird new mouth - did anyone ever figure out what was up with that?)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on March 11, 2009, 09:31:17 AM
Oh noes, new K-9 is trying to hump the girl in the fireplace.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on March 11, 2009, 08:30:50 PM
Well you know, that girl was always master baiting.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 12, 2009, 07:47:13 AM
I don't like the new K9
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Post by: bratpop on March 12, 2009, 08:26:16 AM
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I HATE TOM SERVO'S NEW VOICE K-9!!!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 12, 2009, 09:34:41 AM
He's just being an asshole to get a rise out of people,just ignore him.
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Post by: bratpop on March 12, 2009, 09:58:19 AM
Bratpop--haven't you already said you would never watch this show and can't get into it? Or am I confusing you with someone else?
I could quite conceivably have said I was never going to watch the show at all, or the new series, before I actually watched it. Or perhaps you were thinking of me saying I couldn't get into the old series, the main reason of which is that it is not all available, many of the episodes no longer existing, and I really have to watch something start to finish or else the demon monkeys in my head tell me to do bad things. Not to mention, there's just no easy way to watch the longest running damn sci-fi show in history, much as I would love to waste my valuable time in that fashion.

If you can find the imaginary post where "Doctor Who?" thinks I'm being an asshole, you win a real live miniature Pegasus that poops silver dollars.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 26, 2009, 04:57:06 PM
I just finished The Doctor's Daughter and I don't think it was a bad episode at all.

It had two interesting ideas that were pretty well handled and I look forward to seeing what happens with Jenny.

So far i think this is season is shaping up to be RTD's best,it hasn't been overloaded with romantic or story arc subplots and I think it has had the least number of episodes taking place on present day earth.
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Post by: Tripe on March 26, 2009, 06:11:19 PM
I just finished The Doctor's Daughter and I don't think it was a bad episode at all.

It had two interesting ideas that were pretty well handled and I look forward to seeing what happens with Jenny.

So far i think this is season is shaping up to be RTD's best,it hasn't been overloaded with romantic or story arc subplots and I think it has had the least number of episodes taking place on present day earth.

Really? That whole "instant cloning" nonsense?  It would've been -far- more interesting to have her as Susan's daughter.

Susan's mother, surely?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 27, 2009, 07:09:50 PM
I just finished The Doctor's Daughter and I don't think it was a bad episode at all.

It had two interesting ideas that were pretty well handled and I look forward to seeing what happens with Jenny.

So far i think this is season is shaping up to be RTD's best,it hasn't been overloaded with romantic or story arc subplots and I think it has had the least number of episodes taking place on present day earth.

Really? That whole "instant cloning" nonsense?  It would've been -far- more interesting to have her as Susan's daughter.

Yeah that did kind of bug me but it worked out in the end.

Style wise this episode reminded me of a Davidson story,the way the TARDIS just drops them there and the story is off and running.

Also they were not ruling him out of ever having a real family before and he did state that he is the last living TimeLord so i would think his family is dead.

I think it was a very good episode despite the cloning thing and Martha was great in it.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 27, 2009, 07:15:22 PM
Yeah but I am big Martha fan(she is my favorite from the new series)so any story that gives her this much screen time and people who breath water I can enjoy.

I just figured the old clones started out old.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 01, 2009, 10:39:32 AM
I just finished the Library episodes.

Best episodes of the new series so far IMO.

I can't wait for Sephen Moffet to take over the show!
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 01, 2009, 01:01:50 PM
I can't believe I got three classic episodes in row!

Series four is becoming one of my favorite seasons of DW ever.
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Post by: Courtney on April 04, 2009, 12:37:14 PM
See I loved that two-parter, it was my favorite of the season as well.  I wish that something had come from Donna's bizarro-world husband.  That was pretty heartbreaking at the end.  The finale was so depressing, I would have liked if at least she'd run into him at the end.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on April 04, 2009, 07:16:58 PM
Yeah, it was a major downer. I think it might actually have been a bit less of a downer for her to have just died outright than to see her diminished back into a vapid little temp, never able to remember, as if all those wonderful things had never happened to begin with...

I shall now leave this thread and its spoilerifficness again, because I don't get BBC America.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 04, 2009, 10:15:26 PM
I just finished the Library episodes.

Best episodes of the new series so far IMO.

I can't wait for Sephen Moffet to take over the show!

Really? I thought those were easily his worst episodes.  I think maybe the problem is that I fucking hate Donna. I understand what they were trying to do with the character, but I don't think she has the right to do it, and mostly I just want to see a brick impact her face at high velocity.

Donna is my second favorite out of the new show because she is the only one not in love with The Doctor,and she and Tenant seem to be a having fun making the show.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 05, 2009, 06:22:57 AM
I really liked Donna myself, she sort of reminded me of one of my older sisters.

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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 05, 2009, 07:21:26 AM
I just finished the season final.

Except for he clone Doctor bit I think it was the best final we have had so far,I really feel sorry for Donna and what happened to her has made her may favorite so far.

Overall I think this would have been a great exit for Tenant.

I can't wait to have some money so that I can order The Next Doctor.
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Post by: AJ on April 05, 2009, 08:28:47 AM
Danna?

I think you mean Donna.

I love Dr Who and am looking forward to the new one on Saturday. Looks very good.

AJ
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Post by: bratpop on April 05, 2009, 09:37:15 AM
I don't hate any of the companions. Maybe it's a British thing. They try their best. Donna actually had a point - comic relief. The other two were eye candy. There's supposed to be an older woman in this year's two parter. Yes, apparently older than Donna. After that, I think they're going to be out of ideas.

I did hate Martha's mother though.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 05, 2009, 10:00:36 AM
I don't know I think it will be interesting to see,I think I remember Tom Baker once said he wanted a 60 year old woman to travel with him just for a change.

I can't wait for new Doctor Who now.

To tell you the truth I was starting to lose interest after series 3 but now I am back on board.

How do you rank the new season so far?

I rank them

1)4
2)1
3)2
4)3

Overall I just with there were more new episodes out there now.

Also I love the new Davros and hope they find a way to bring him back.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 05, 2009, 09:59:56 PM
If you think something is wrong you should say it's not a matter of right.

If everyone had to be perfect before they could question someone else we wouldn't have the right to question our leaders.

That is one of the things I like about Donna she doesn't stand around in awe of The Doctor she is his friend and if she thinks he is doing  something wrong she tells him.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 06, 2009, 04:01:45 PM
No one is perfect that is why I like her she doesn't pretend to be but you don't need to be perfect to know right from wrong or to help people.

Also Oil is something people  in Britain have been saying for a long time.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 06, 2009, 05:20:20 PM
What does it mean,I have heard lots of British people use it and I don't think any of them meant it in a vulgar way.
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Post by: Tripe on April 06, 2009, 06:23:33 PM
Yeah it is very hoi poloi.

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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 06, 2009, 06:25:23 PM
Yeah but I don't think this Doctor is any more upper class then Bertie Wooster and he used it.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 06, 2009, 07:58:52 PM
I don't know every line of every Woodhouse story by hart but he did use it.

Look at just about any British Book or TV show written in the past 100 years and you will see it widely used.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 06, 2009, 08:47:38 PM
When I was a kid PBS was only station we could get in pretty much all the time,so I spent a great deal of time watching British TV and I can tell you any time someone was surprised or trying to stop someone chances are they would shout Oi!
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 06, 2009, 10:11:31 PM
It has been used in more then that and I have ever heard Oi used in the same way as dude.

But whatever I can't get worked up over one line, even if i didn't like the line it couldn't ruin an otherwise good episode for me.

I think that stupid clone Doctor staying with rose was a bigger deal but even that couldn't wreck the episode for.
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Post by: Ortega on April 06, 2009, 11:58:14 PM
All i have to say is....

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q80/paranoia2K/Untitled-1.jpg)

Oi.
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Post by: Tripe on April 07, 2009, 05:13:01 AM
I don't know every line of every Woodhouse story by hart but he did use it.

Look at just about any British Book or TV show written in the past 100 years and you will see it widely used.
I don't think that's remotely true. Basehart? Tripe?

No, it will be used but it's used to indicate a working class character or somebody who's a bit rough around the edges.

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 07, 2009, 10:51:39 AM
I see what you are saying but we are talking about the same Doctor who has said "What the Hell is that?" and told people to "shut up" oi really doesn't seem to drop to a lower level then that.

At any rate we will have a new Doctor next year and hopefully he will be 100% oi free.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sideswipe on April 07, 2009, 11:29:14 AM
It has been used in more then that and I have ever heard Oi used in the same way as dude.

But whatever I can't get worked up over one line, even if i didn't like the line it couldn't ruin an otherwise good episode for me.

I think that stupid clone Doctor staying with rose was a bigger deal but even that couldn't wreck the episode for.

I like the clone Doctor.  Its actually a really simple way to bring back Tennant if he wanted to come back for an episode or two.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 07, 2009, 11:33:43 AM
Yeah that is fine it's just him staying with Rose that I don't like.

It felt like a forced way to get The Doctor and Rose together and I never really liked them together any way.

It sort of half worked with the 9th Doctor but I never felt it worked at all with the 10th.
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Post by: Courtney on April 07, 2009, 12:00:51 PM
Moffat wouldn't have pulled that.  For all the good RTD has done, the worst parts are when he goes fangirl on us.  Rose should have never come back.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 07, 2009, 12:08:42 PM
I could take Rose coming back since this story was supposed to celibrate the fact that the show has made it four years and 55 episodes by bringing back as many people from the past four years as they could but I just didn't like what he did with her.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 07, 2009, 01:30:27 PM
I like the clone Doctor.  Its actually a really simple way to bring back Tennant if he wanted to come back for an episode or two.

Compared to the ways previous Doctors have been brought back in the past, it's really the antithesis of simple.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 07, 2009, 01:34:01 PM
Yeah but before they always needed the Timelords to do it,this leaves the door open for a muti Doctor stories with the TimeLords dead.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 07, 2009, 01:36:37 PM
Nah the Timelords will be back I fancy.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 07, 2009, 01:52:45 PM
Yeah I suspect they might be a bit less shovel collared but yeah I'd like to see them back, and I'd like to see a certain Lady President.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 07, 2009, 02:03:39 PM
I'm guessing she and Susan died in the Timewar or else there is no way The Doctor would go around calling himself the last of the Timelords.

Yeah I really hope they come back.

It would be nice to see Robert Holmes version of the TimeLords on a budget that could do them justice.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 07, 2009, 02:07:44 PM
I'm guessing she and Susan died in the Timewar or else there is no way The Doctor would go around calling himself the last of the Timelords.

Well as we know from the end of the third season, the Doctors perceptions have been wrong before, it was a stupid move by RTD frankly and I'm glad we at least saw one of them which tells me we can see more of them.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 08, 2009, 08:57:04 PM
Yes! 

I love Colin and I never thought his season were as bad as people made out,also the outlines of those stories always made me a little upset that we never got to see them.

This is great news!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 08, 2009, 09:22:46 PM
I always liked him as a villain.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 17, 2009, 01:30:03 PM
OK so who's seen the Easter Special?

Thoughts, comments, speculation of how this story will echo through future ones.

Oh and thanks to Court for suggesting a site to watch it on :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 17, 2009, 01:45:52 PM
Damn good episode, though I didn't catch much of what happened due to the fact that I was mesmerized by Michelle Ryan.

Loved the spinning dish thingy!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on April 17, 2009, 01:48:03 PM
Yeah for a former Slater she was really pretty wasn't she?

I'm thinking Old Lady's final words to the Doctor  indicate that we'll be seeing the Timelords again (well I hope that's what it means) :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: mrbasehart on May 30, 2009, 07:04:08 AM
I'm surprised no one's posted this:

Quote
Little-known actress Karen Gillan has been unveiled as the next assistant in Doctor Who.

The 21-year-old will star alongside new Time Lord Matt Smith in the new series, to be broadcast next year.

Gillan has already appeared in the drama, having played a Soothsayer in The Fires Of Pompeii in the last run.

"I am absolutely over the moon at being chosen to play the Doctor's new companion. - I just can't wait to get started," she said.

Picture:

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45840000/jpg/_45840965_who_bbc226b.jpg)

I've seen other pictures of her in our papers.  She looks kinda hot! :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on May 30, 2009, 10:02:28 AM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45840000/jpg/_45840965_who_bbc226b.jpg)

I've seen other pictures of her in our papers.  She looks kinda hot! :)

Delightful.

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on May 31, 2009, 05:31:41 AM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45840000/jpg/_45840965_who_bbc226b.jpg)

I've seen other pictures of her in our papers.  She looks kinda hot! :)

Delightful.



Ginger princess!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on May 31, 2009, 05:36:52 AM
(http://img197.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-8086/loc219/06148_2668807164a6237989963o_122_219lo.jpg)

(http://img197.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-8086/loc51/06154_2668807164a8379067849o_122_51lo.jpg)

OK she sort of looks like Donna's idealized self image. :)

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Nekrose on June 15, 2009, 08:19:23 AM
They should have used that Doctor's daughter clone chick. She was hawt.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 16, 2009, 11:27:41 AM
She's cute. They just really, REALLY need to avoid any hint of Doctor/Companion romance. Whatsoever.

It's gonna suck when we find out her name is River Song

 ;D
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on June 16, 2009, 01:17:04 PM
That's the ticket:

(http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/Karen%20Gillan%20Doctor%20Who%20companion.jpg)(http://woodenspears.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/who-was-on-er-alex-kingston.jpg)

Close enough I'm thinking ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on June 16, 2009, 01:21:32 PM
You know, the Doc does love his R's.  Rose, Reinette, River, Romana.  I am changing my name to Rachel.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on June 16, 2009, 01:23:04 PM
You seem more like a Rita to me.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on June 16, 2009, 01:43:27 PM
Hopefully not this Rita.

(http://thumbnails.hulu.com/4/335/11379_512x288_manicured__HBvODn1ojkK5h51Vqdc72w.jpg)

Mistahh F....

EDIT: Forgot, Tripe doesn't like Arrested Development.  So I assume his intentions were pure.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on June 16, 2009, 01:45:06 PM
EDIT: Forgot, Tripe doesn't like Arrested Development.  So I assume his intentions were pure.

Indeed, you simply don't look like a Rachael.

I can believe you as a Rita though. :)

I did think it was something from Arrested Development though so it connected that far, after that I didn't have a clue.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on June 16, 2009, 06:21:29 PM
Hopefully not this Rita.

(http://thumbnails.hulu.com/4/335/11379_512x288_manicured__HBvODn1ojkK5h51Vqdc72w.jpg)

Mistahh F....

EDIT: Forgot, Tripe doesn't like Arrested Development.  So I assume his intentions were pure.


Am I going to have to use the invisible locks again?

(http://content9.flixster.com/photo/11/34/70/11347095_tml.jpg)
 

;D
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on June 22, 2009, 03:52:44 PM
Take a look at this.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/7476/13dstories.html?200922 (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/7476/13dstories.html?200922)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: dangfish on June 23, 2009, 02:30:21 PM
Okay, I'm sure if I took more time rather than just glancing quickly through the last couple of pages of this thread the answer has been covered, but I'm feeling lazy so it's stupid question time:

I know we weren't getting a whole season but I thought we were supposed to get some specials? right? Are we still getting them?  Have they been delayed?   And if so, any word on when SCI FI channel will be running them?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on June 23, 2009, 02:34:31 PM
Two have happened, but not on Sci-Fi.  I've been watching them utilizing means that aren't so much on the up and up.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on June 23, 2009, 04:40:34 PM
Wait when did the other one air?

And where can I find it Court?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on June 23, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Back in April.  I'll find it and PM you.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on June 23, 2009, 07:04:56 PM
Hang about I thought you meant there was one after Planet of the Dead. Now I'm terribly confused.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: dangfish on June 24, 2009, 08:08:21 AM
No word on when SCI FI channel is going to show them?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on June 24, 2009, 09:49:09 AM
Sci-Fi rarely airs the specials until they have a season block.  So my guess would be not until 11 takes his throne.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: dignan on June 24, 2009, 09:55:15 AM
Yes, but what of the DVDs?  WHAT OF THE DVDS???
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 24, 2009, 11:02:52 AM
Sci-Fi rarely airs the specials until they have a season block.  So my guess would be not until 11 takes his throne.

I had Sci-Fi on in the background Monday night and heard an ad for "new Dr. Who", and I thought I heard the 27th.  Looking at their online schedule it must not be this month, weird...
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on June 24, 2009, 02:39:04 PM
Yes, but what of the DVDs?  WHAT OF THE DVDS???

It really helps to have a region hacked DvD player if you are a Doctor Who fan.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on June 24, 2009, 02:47:24 PM
I think because we are paying both Warner Brothers and the BBC for them.

They are much cheaper if you order from the UK.

Even with the exchange rate if you look you can get them for about $45 a piece Vs.$75-$100 here.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on June 26, 2009, 08:10:27 AM
Ooh, for those who are against illegally downloading episodes, good news! 

Quote
“The Next Doctor” finally broadcasts on BBC America on June 27th, and “Planet of the Dead” follows relatively closely on July 26th.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on June 26, 2009, 09:54:12 AM
I think because we are paying both Warner Brothers and the BBC for them.

They are much cheaper if you order from the UK.

Even with the exchange rate if you look you can get them for about $45 a piece Vs.$75-$100 here.

Weird that something's cheaper that way, but you must be right. Don't they have the "uncut" versions of the Confidential eps too?

Some of them are cut some are not,I think it's because some of the people in clips didn't agree to be on DvD
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on July 19, 2009, 04:28:54 PM
I hope there are some outtakes from the recording sessions eventually. ;)

Great news though.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on July 21, 2009, 05:01:08 PM
http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=11&id=2650 (http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=11&id=2650)

That link will give you a look at the 11th Doctor in costume.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on July 21, 2009, 05:44:04 PM
Before I was on the fence but now I think he will do fine.

He looks very Doctory in those photos.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on July 21, 2009, 05:49:32 PM
Yeah I will have to wait for the DVDs of his first season to come out before I judge but so far he is looking good.

Also next week the two of the movies are coming to Blu Ray!  I can't wait.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: mrbasehart on July 21, 2009, 08:33:50 PM
Oooh.  Hot readheaded sidekick... Nope.  Still can't inspire me to watch. :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on July 22, 2009, 04:30:12 AM
More and more convinced to get a tweed suit by the by. ;)

Wow she is certainly pretty isn't she?

It's hard to tell too much, but I like that he seems to have sort of an "old man" look. I think it'd be an interesting choice to have the youngest actor to play him act like an elderly gent.

Nicely done if that's what they are doing considering the most decrepit version was technically the youngest. :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on July 22, 2009, 08:29:43 AM
Indeed, this one looks to be genial which would be nice.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: tygerbug on July 24, 2009, 09:20:55 PM
Here's some images and video from my project to animate lost Doctor Who episodes.

(http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/patsgirlsposter750.jpg)

(http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/smugglescenepic1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6F99FD203CCECC5D

http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/1guide/whosprites1.html
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on July 25, 2009, 05:18:32 AM
Nice work, a lot of potential there.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on July 26, 2009, 08:26:37 AM
Here's some images and video from my project to animate lost Doctor Who episodes.

(http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/patsgirlsposter750.jpg)

(http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/smugglescenepic1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6F99FD203CCECC5D

http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/1guide/whosprites1.html


That is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: tygerbug on July 26, 2009, 10:06:45 PM
   Thanks guys. Wish anyone with lots of money thought the same.  =)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ninjew on July 26, 2009, 11:03:50 PM
Here's some images and video from my project to animate lost Doctor Who episodes.

(http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/patsgirlsposter750.jpg)

(http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/smugglescenepic1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6F99FD203CCECC5D

http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/1guide/whosprites1.html


Beautiful artwork you use in your animations.  The only critique I have is the excessive movement of characters. Real people don't constantly move about like that, so I would expect this to reflect that.

Seeing the characters shift about all the time is rather distracting, and takes away from the amazing accomplishments you've achieved.

Less is more. Have them move when they might actually do so in the given situations.  Use that as a demo reel and send a bid to the BBC for the next "lost" DVD release.

I'd buy it with that kind of quality!

Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: tygerbug on July 27, 2009, 04:21:21 AM
    I was really spending all my time on the artwork - which was extremely time consuming, since it's very detailed stuff - it would take a week to get a character finished and ready to animate.

   I had wanted to do much better animation ..... the work got subtler as it went, Galaxy 4 and The Massacre being done last.

   Subtle animation is always harder to do than wobbly, fast motion. It was enough work to just get them moving at all that being really specific and subtle about the movement was .... well, I never quite felt I got around to that in some cases.

    The official DVD folk took one look at my very very early tests, and then pretty much dismissed me. I was told they wouldn't be watching any of my work.

     A major pity, as I was about to do a huge production of The Ice Warriors, which was going to feature much better rotoscope style movement. I was ready with the characters finished when I got some very official rejection.

http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/1guide/icewarriors.html

    Haven't really touched the project in a few months, as people started to call me crazy for spending too much time on it!  And I've had other things to work on, including a feature film which needs a lot of work ....

    I'd like to do at least something from The Ice Warriors, having spent 2 months creating the characters .... but I suspect the official folk will animate that story eventually, probably in the works now.  If that story should come out without animated episodes though, I'd be all over it.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on July 27, 2009, 09:14:31 AM
The only critique I have is the excessive movement of characters. Real people don't constantly move about like that, so I would expect this to reflect that.
Interesting, I didn't really notice that but I did notice something allied to it; the lip syncing is a bit off.  Aside from that, I thought it was pretty damn good. :)

Use that as a demo reel and send a bid to the BBC for the next "lost" DVD release.
Yeah that's a great suggestion or hey even some of those website exclusive stories, if you can animate previous incarnations you'd have no problem with the current one(s) :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: tygerbug on July 27, 2009, 03:57:13 PM
>>the lip syncing is a bit off


No, it isn't. Could be Youtube Youtubing on you.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on July 27, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Well just telling you how it played for me, like I said, everything else is fine, if the lip syncing works for you then that's all well and good. :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: tygerbug on July 27, 2009, 08:28:55 PM
  What I meant to say is, "Behold my mad lipsyncing skillz!"

   Yeah, I work hard to get the sync right.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: rebisaz on July 28, 2009, 12:31:18 PM
Wow, tygerbug, those are great.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: tygerbug on July 28, 2009, 04:41:53 PM
   The Ice Warriors .... animated ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDx6ilVvCWw

   A little lip-sync test of a scene from episode 2 between Leader Clent and The Doctor.

  Not a finished product! The characters appear on a temporary background of someone's house, and do not move. This is just a rough test to show the lip sync.


   I had done a huge amount of work on The Ice Warriors characters before putting it back into the box a few months back - I wanted to show off Leader Clent at least - a very complex sprite.

(http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/leaderclent-wbodysm.jpg)

More of my work on The Ice Warriors ....
http://orangecow.org/who-sprites2/1guide/icewarriors.html
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: pezdrake on August 03, 2009, 06:44:32 PM
Probably already here but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QxVLq2iYCs&feature=related
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on September 10, 2009, 01:01:45 PM
This pleases me.

Quote
Curtis to pen Doctor Who episode

Screenwriter and film director Richard Curtis has agreed to write an episode of the new series of Doctor Who, his agent has confirmed.  The Blackadder creator told The Sun newspaper he had signed up for a single show because his children were fans of the BBC One programme.  "It's tremendously good fun and a treat for my children," he said.  The 52-year-old is better known for romantic comedies like Four Weddings And A Funeral than for science fiction.  "These days the things you can watch together as a family are much fewer," he explained of his decision to step on board the Tardis, "so when you get something like Doctor Who or the X Factor, it is such a pleasure to sit down as a family".

Curtis also revealed he was fascinated by time travel and was currently working on a low budget film about the subject.  "Maybe it's a desire to get out of being old. Sometimes you do just love the idea that you could go back in time and change things."  The Vicar Of Dibley writer also said he thought he may have "one more sitcom in me before I die". 

In July, Doctor Who fans got their first glimpse of the 11th Doctor, Matt Smith, in costume as the Time Lord.  The character's new look consisted of a tweed jacket, bow tie, rolled up trousers and black boots.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on October 06, 2009, 11:53:37 AM
Pretty cool.  I can't wait to see the show.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on October 08, 2009, 12:25:47 PM
I love the new logo. 

The closer the final gets, the more excited I am about Matt Smith (and his Tucker Carlson-esque wardrobe, which I'm sure I'll grow to love.  Someone had to rescue the bow tie from becoming a sign of evil.)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on November 10, 2009, 08:15:26 AM
This pleases me.

Quote
Curtis to pen Doctor Who episode

Screenwriter and film director Richard Curtis has agreed to write an episode of the new series of Doctor Who, his agent has confirmed.  The Blackadder creator told The Sun newspaper he had signed up for a single show because his children were fans of the BBC One programme.  "It's tremendously good fun and a treat for my children," he said.  The 52-year-old is better known for romantic comedies like Four Weddings And A Funeral than for science fiction.  "These days the things you can watch together as a family are much fewer," he explained of his decision to step on board the Tardis, "so when you get something like Doctor Who or the X Factor, it is such a pleasure to sit down as a family".

Curtis also revealed he was fascinated by time travel and was currently working on a low budget film about the subject.  "Maybe it's a desire to get out of being old. Sometimes you do just love the idea that you could go back in time and change things."  The Vicar Of Dibley writer also said he thought he may have "one more sitcom in me before I die". 

In July, Doctor Who fans got their first glimpse of the 11th Doctor, Matt Smith, in costume as the Time Lord.  The character's new look consisted of a tweed jacket, bow tie, rolled up trousers and black boots.

Update!  My friend Lindsey went to a Pirate Radio screening where Richard Curtis was doing a Q&A, and he said that his episode is about...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This pleases me further.  I love the historical stories best.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on November 10, 2009, 08:18:03 AM
Man I can't wait for the new season to start.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on November 16, 2009, 03:33:28 PM
OK, so who saw it?

  It was OK.  Not what i would call a good episode, but still kinda interesting.  Though it really brought home the Davies Era habit of going dark all the time.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't know, it just left a bad taste in mouth, and makes me wish the Christmas specials come faster, so we can get over the Davies Era already.  Hopefully, when Smith and Moffet take over, there might a little more light-hearted eps to look forward too.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on November 16, 2009, 04:15:43 PM
I have not got a chance to see it yet but i am also sick of all the dark "The Doctor is god" episodes.  That is what put me off most of McCoy's time and i hope we are done with it after Davis.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on November 17, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
I really really liked it a lot.  I'm all for dark when the Doctor is being taken down a peg.  That's one of the few character choices I like of Davies, that the Doctor, being the last one, is more arrogant than ever and in a dangerous way.  And when he doesn't have someone (like Donna said) to stop him or when he doesn't have someone to live for basically, he kind of goes off the rails.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on November 24, 2009, 09:13:52 AM
Whoo hoo, finale preview! (http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/123/doctor-who-video.jsp?bclid=26821308001&bctid=51597547001)

The line about Old Bess losing her nickname made me chortle.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on November 24, 2009, 11:11:45 AM
Well the forth Doctor tried to avoid his and the fifth delayed his until he could rescue Peri.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on November 24, 2009, 07:48:19 PM
He didn't see that part coming (You can tell by the way tom played the scene)but everything he did in the story was him trying to avoid it.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on November 24, 2009, 08:08:44 PM
It's never stated on screen but i always thought it was pretty clear from the way Tom played it that from the first time he saw The watcher he knew he had to change and he was running to get away from him more then he ever was from the Master.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Valinid on December 06, 2009, 12:24:33 AM
Did anyone else get the chance to watch 'Dreamland'.

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4474/doctorwhodreamland.jpg)

It was pretty good, I liked it quite a bit. Though, it did have really bad pacing problems. Probably because they need to have a cliffhanger every 12 minutes. Like Infinite Quest, the episodes were split into several parts and were aired at different times. It kinda doesn't work when you watch it all at once. It also had REALLY bad CGI. I prefer the crappy flash animation Infinite Quest had. Very low budget, it looks like an early PS1 game. This episode could have easily been done in real life, so that is rather disappointing... Otherwise I did like it though. I hope they make more animated episode. Only with proper animation....
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Valinid on December 06, 2009, 11:14:30 AM
Here are some more screen shots.

(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6776/24665836.jpg)
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9234/36596434.jpg)
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6715/74654400.jpg)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on December 06, 2009, 04:24:37 PM
I just hope it comes to DvD.

I am a little up set that i will have to wait until they decide to release this year's Christmas episode on DvD to see it.  I hate being on the wrong side of the pond some times.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on December 07, 2009, 02:48:34 PM
Do you have BBC America , Doc?  Because they're showing Part 1 the day after Christmas, and i assume they will show the second part the day after new years as well.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on December 07, 2009, 02:56:01 PM
Oh Darn it!  The year thay have something good on before it comes to DvD is the year I lose Direct TV.  Wouldn't you know it.  Oh well.  I assume it will be on DvD by next Christmas,the wait will not hurt me and I will have something nice to watch next Christmas.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: ScottotD on December 12, 2009, 03:01:33 AM
The Waters of Mars was surprising good writing from Russell, seemed like the standard 'Space colony' episode but REALLY started an interesting character change in the Doctor.  Although it did remind me how badly I'm going to miss Dave Tennant  :'(
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on December 26, 2009, 03:01:44 PM
OK.  Who saw it?

One word. WOW.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

also,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on December 26, 2009, 03:26:43 PM
OH it sounds like I missed something really good :'(

I hope it comes to DvD soon.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on December 27, 2009, 03:33:19 AM
They said the "specials" DVD comes out in February, I think.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Action Batch on December 27, 2009, 02:51:02 PM
They said the "specials" DVD comes out in February, I think.

Whoa, first Sharky and now Bratpop? 

I hope Fortis comes back next, but I think he's still on his mission.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on December 29, 2009, 05:58:07 AM
OK.  Who saw it?

One word. WOW.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

also,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I've seen about 2/3 of it (why don't you make the iplayer work outside the UK BBC?)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: ScottotD on December 29, 2009, 06:07:45 AM
I'm HOPING Russell T. has done the reverse of his usual 2-part trick and done an underwhelming opener to an awesome follow up.


The ending was the only saving grace for me, Tennant deserves SOOOOO much better.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on January 01, 2010, 03:35:49 PM
Jesus. Just finished the finale. I sobbed hysterically for the entire last twenty minutes.

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I loved it. I was very worried that the first part was a portent of stupid, because Master-land was kind of goofy. Also wish Donna had gotten more to do. But my complaints are few. Plus...

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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on January 01, 2010, 07:22:15 PM
Just finished it myself

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also

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still, glad to see some familiar faces... and somewhat happy endings
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on January 02, 2010, 12:47:08 PM
Oh and because I forgot in my intense grief...

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Post by: Tripe on January 02, 2010, 02:34:56 PM
OK finally managed to watch the bridging bit between the cause of and the actual regeneration:

Great episode, I still think

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But who knows.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on January 02, 2010, 02:53:45 PM
OK finally managed to watch the bridging bit between the cause of and the actual regeneration:

Great episode, I still think

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But who knows.

well, according to Wikipedia

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Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on January 02, 2010, 02:55:14 PM
Meh, I think my suggestion works better. :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on January 02, 2010, 03:32:41 PM
There's actually a great deal of internet speculation that...

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I choose to believe neither as I believe she's in E-Space and will be in future episodes.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on January 02, 2010, 03:39:06 PM
Well, like I said on twitter,
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Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on January 02, 2010, 03:52:17 PM
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Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on January 02, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
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Post by: ScottotD on January 02, 2010, 07:43:34 PM
Goodbye Mr. Tennant, I love you

 :'(
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: dangfish on January 09, 2010, 09:04:42 PM
I finally caught up with the last couple of episodes.   I enjoyed it, although I liked part two more than part one.  Part one was a little too much build up without much happening.  At first I was upset about Tennant leaving (especially since we missed out on a full season to accomadate HIS schedule!).  Now, however. I'm looking forward to the new guy.  I enjoyed Tennat's portrayal like most others did.  While watching the last couple episodes though, I was reminded about my one pet peeve with him.  He talks so darn fast sometimes!  Frequently I had to rewind a scene two or three times to try to catch exactly what the heck he was saying. That was starting to get a tad annoying.  I hope the new guy slows down his speech a bit.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on January 09, 2010, 09:06:46 PM
I'm just hoping his departure also means goodbye to Estuary English for a while. ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: ScottotD on January 10, 2010, 01:27:15 AM
I'm so glad Rusell reversed his constant problem of painting himself into a corner with part one of a two part story and having to use really sill ways to get out of it, it's nice that he goes out on his (imo) best writing since the very start of the comeback.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on January 10, 2010, 06:08:51 AM
I'm just hoping his departure also means goodbye to Estuary English for a while. ;)
Does the new guy use RP?
Well, not that I can tell, but RP and EE aren't the only accents to be found, I'd like Home Counties myself. :)

I'm also thinking about the companions....
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on January 10, 2010, 01:56:20 PM
Well RP is fine but really more of the Upper Crust speak with a Home Counties accent. I'd like to hear that, it'd remind me of Home (Stratford, a place in the Midlands that thinks it's in Hampshire) :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 05, 2010, 02:52:00 PM
Well I finally saw The end of time and while i could complain about stuff like there was too much wacky humor,it took to long to end,or the fact that I find Rose and captain jack to be fingernails on a blackboard that is all beside the point.  It kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time and I had to fight back the tears.  It is one of my favorite regeneration stories of all time.  I think Matt Smith is going to be good from what I saw of him.



Oh and one last thing....


HOW COOL WAS DALTON?!  WAS THAT GREAT OR WHAT!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 05, 2010, 03:11:33 PM
No I am talking about my second favorite James Bond of all time Timothy Dalton,He has a really cool part in it.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on February 05, 2010, 07:56:32 PM
No I am talking about my second favorite James Bond of all time Timothy Dalton,He has a really cool part in it.

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Post by: Tripe on February 05, 2010, 08:03:46 PM
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Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 05, 2010, 09:09:28 PM
Well I thought he was playing a future version of The Master so it was cool when they said who he was.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 10, 2010, 09:03:49 AM
Am I the only one who is going insane waiting for the next series to come to DvD other here.  THE WAIT IS TEARING MY APART!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on February 10, 2010, 09:23:16 AM
The specials? I already got mine. It came out last week.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 10, 2010, 11:08:10 AM
I got my Blu Ray set last week too but now i want series 5 to air so that I can see it.  The wait to see a new Doctor's first story always killis me.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on February 10, 2010, 02:53:34 PM
Beware the Snow Daleks! (http://io9.com/5468837/beware-the-superior-snow+creature-of-the-universe-the-snow-dalek)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/02/500x_polka-dot-cottage_-preparin_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on February 10, 2010, 03:22:21 PM
And now...loldaleks.

(http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/64475074/3537649)

(http://www.littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/loldaleks.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/KeithMoonIsGod/loldalek.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on February 10, 2010, 03:24:40 PM
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Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 10, 2010, 04:50:31 PM
I just thought of something.  This episode kind of explains why he let The Master go in the five Doctors instead of letting The TimeLords have him,he needed him for latter.

Also I am now a little confused about the time line.  I thought the revived series was taking place about ten years in the future.  After all the tech was a little more advanced then what we have today and series three had a made up Presedent,but now we have Presedent Obama?  What is going on here?!  Also what was that whole bit about the speach even about?  It had nothing to do with anything.  The only thing I can think is that is was some sort of statement about Obama being over hyped.  i mean you have all that talk about if solving all the world's money problems in one night and then it doesn't lead to a thing.  I can only think it was a swipe at people who think Obama is magic and going to make the world perfect,but it didn't even do that very well so I am unsure what the point was.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on February 10, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
I just thought of something.  This episode kind of explains why he let The Master go in the five Doctors instead of letting The TimeLords have him,he needed him for latter.

Also I am now a little confused about the time line.  I thought the revived series was taking place about ten years in the future.  After all the tech was a little more advanced then what we have today and series three had a made up Presedent,but now we have Presedent Obama?  What is going on here?!  Also what was that whole bit about the speach even about?  It had nothing to do with anything.  The only thing I can think is that is was some sort of statement about Obama being over hyped.  i mean you have all that talk about if solving all the world's money problems in one night and then it doesn't lead to a thing.  I can only think it was a swipe at people who think Obama is magic and going to make the world perfect,but it didn't even do that very well so I am unsure what the point was.

Well, it's kind of hard to say that Doctor Who takes place in any era at all.  It is about time travel, after all. ;)

But no. Ever since "Aliens in London," the "present day Earth" episodes have taken place pretty much exactly one year after broadcast, which was exactly when "End of Time" took place.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on February 11, 2010, 10:41:09 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/02/b0b76f36f262093f9957194965b3d689/340x.jpg)

Aww. You may now exterminate the guests.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: ScottotD on February 12, 2010, 01:09:54 AM
I just thought of something.  This episode kind of explains why he let The Master go in the five Doctors instead of letting The TimeLords have him,he needed him for latter.

Also I am now a little confused about the time line.  I thought the revived series was taking place about ten years in the future.  After all the tech was a little more advanced then what we have today and series three had a made up Presedent,but now we have Presedent Obama?  What is going on here?!  Also what was that whole bit about the speach even about?  It had nothing to do with anything.  The only thing I can think is that is was some sort of statement about Obama being over hyped.  i mean you have all that talk about if solving all the world's money problems in one night and then it doesn't lead to a thing.  I can only think it was a swipe at people who think Obama is magic and going to make the world perfect,but it didn't even do that very well so I am unsure what the point was.

I really think you're overestimating Russel T's writing ability with that, having someone the world recognises transform into the Master is just more impactful that having President Kevin change imo
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 06:27:29 AM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/02/b0b76f36f262093f9957194965b3d689/340x.jpg)

Aww. You may now exterminate the guests.

That will be my wedding cake. I will force him to agree with me on this.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on February 12, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
Impacterytastic.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 12, 2010, 02:30:52 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/02/b0b76f36f262093f9957194965b3d689/340x.jpg)

Aww. You may now exterminate the guests.

That will be my wedding cake. I will force him to agree with me on this.

Hey ally you have to do is grow the beard of evil and star into his eyes and say "You will obey me" and you will get whatever you want.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 13, 2010, 04:49:40 PM
Hey I know I am a little slow but I just noticed that Wilf is the spoon salesman from Fawlty Towers!  That is cool.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on February 13, 2010, 04:57:55 PM
Bernard Cribbins is a God amongst the British televisual acting firmament, he's also tangentially connected to that I'm Too Sexy song.

Here's why:

http://www.youtube.com/v/z7Bvd33V9dQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00&border=1
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 16, 2010, 09:53:43 AM
Here is the series 5 trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTikSllxnYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTikSllxnYE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yt9aek4mdw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yt9aek4mdw&feature=related)

I can't wait.

Also check out these fan made openings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoWzd38CWXs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoWzd38CWXs&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chLQ6nXWrss&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chLQ6nXWrss&feature=related)

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 21, 2010, 09:14:22 AM
Here is a new trailer that went up on Youtube yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpbmMhNe6aA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpbmMhNe6aA)

I can't believe all the hate Matt Smith is getting!  It all seems to be based on the fact that people think it is wrong to make episodes of Doctor Who that do not star David Tenent.  I can't believe this,I mean am I the only one who thinks he looks like he is going to be a good based on the trailer?  Besides how can you judge a Doctor before seeing his first series?  Even Tom Baker took a few stories to settle in.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 21, 2010, 09:28:23 AM
I have not seen the new trailer yet,I am downloading it now(On a dial up connection it is faster then loading the video on Youtube),but the first trailer looked really good.

This whole Smith thing reminds me of all the Bond fans who who started up hate websites when DC was cast as Bond.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 21, 2010, 09:48:04 AM
I have not seen the new trailer yet,I am downloading it now(On a dial up connection it is faster then loading the video on Youtube),but the first trailer looked really good.

This whole Smith thing reminds me of all the Bond fans who who started up hate websites when DC was cast as Bond.

It's a very different kind of trailer from that other one. Reserve judgment til you see it. It's kind of awful.

Yeah that was a pretty awful trailer.  I can tell where it went wrong.  It seems they were looking for a way to do a trailer that wasn't just showing clip after clip like other trailers but it didn't work,it just came off as very silly and stuck up it's own rear end.

Still I didn't see anything that made Smith look bad.  One bad trailer doesn't make a show bad.   Babylon 5 had some pretty awful trailers,so did the new Star Trek movie and they both turned out fine.  I don't see any reason to worry yet.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 21, 2010, 10:12:24 AM
I just listened to my favorite story yesterday.  It's The Evil of The Daleks.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on February 23, 2010, 08:55:26 AM
Oh bollocks. I thought the trailer was cute. It's a goofy assed motherfucking show. Why should it have only serious trailers with ominous music and cloister bells? God forbid they might have made the show look like fun. It's not like they had him riding a Segway listening to Fall Out Boy on an iPod. The music was sort of an odd choice, despite there being a couple of pop songs in the can't-do-wrong Tennant era, but it fit the magical mood the trailer was going for.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on February 23, 2010, 09:20:50 AM
I like the trailer. All DW TV spots and trailers are silly. Why should this one be any different?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 23, 2010, 01:41:40 PM
I just watched the first trailer again and is it just me or does it look like they may have changed the way scenes are lit and what camera angles they use a little bit.  I don't know if it is anything to do with the switch to HD or not but the angles and lighting to not look the same as the past five years.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on February 23, 2010, 01:45:35 PM
I like the trailer. All DW TV spots and trailers are silly. Why should this one be any different?

Just to be clear: there are two trailers. One is a regular one; one has the doctor floating in a blue swirly tornado while new age music plays, and flying statues attack him.

That's the one you like?

... Hold on, let me check.

EDIT: Ahem. I was incorrect before. It's goofy. BUT as devil's advocate, I will say that for some reason, the BBC rarely does trailers well, and it's geared towards tweens (which, let's face, is a huge portion of the audience).
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on February 24, 2010, 06:30:09 AM
Pretty sure she's Scottish.

But yes, absolutely stunning. :)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on February 24, 2010, 09:34:05 PM
Pretty sure she's Scottish.

But yes, absolutely stunning. :)

Yup.  She's from Inverness.  And from the looks of it, she's going to be spending most of the season wearing miniskirts and very short shorts. :)

As for the trailer, it's just a teaser.  It was in fact, probably meant to be shown in UK theaters before 3D movies (in fact, it's going to be showing before Alice in Wonderland in UK theaters).  I actually liked the way Smith came off in the few lines that he got.  I'm pretty sure that might be what the time vortex is going to look like now (minus the villains swirling around).  All in all, I neither love nor hate it.

The best NuWho teaser for my money, though, is the one that aired before Series One.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on February 24, 2010, 10:53:52 PM
Do you mean the "Do you want to come with me" trailer?  If so then I have to say I think that is one of the best trailers I have ever seen.  It got me so pumped for the new show I spent $70 importing the Series one Boxset from the UK rather then wait for it to turn up on TV here.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on February 25, 2010, 12:15:30 AM
Do you mean the "Do you want to come with me" trailer?  If so then I have to say I think that is one of the best trailers I have ever seen.  It got me so pumped for the new show I spent $70 importing the Series one Boxset from the UK rather then wait for it to turn up on TV here.

Yeah, that's the one.  And I agree, it's an excellent trailer.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on February 25, 2010, 02:01:39 AM
Time Vortex? No, it's obviously a homosexual tornado. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on March 01, 2010, 06:02:00 AM
She's from Iverness.  And from the looks of it, she's going to be spending most of the season wearing miniskirts and very short shorts. :)

I'm suddenly much more excited about this show.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on March 15, 2010, 06:38:38 AM
Quote
The new TARDIS interior is probably three times the size of David Tennant's — let's just pause to let that sink in. There are multiple levels, joined by staircases. And the Telegraph adds:

"Less grubby than its predecessor, with a transparent plastic floor on the main level, its walls are resplendent with polished copper and its central column features a blown glass decoration that could be straight from Tales of the Unexpected. There are old car seats and downstairs – downstairs! – a swing. With a nod to Paul McGann's Tardis, the central column features an old TV screen on an extendable trellis. It also has a 1980s-style computer keyboard, and a His-Master's-Voice style trumpet speaker."

 :o
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on March 15, 2010, 06:44:23 AM
Pics?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on March 15, 2010, 06:47:49 AM
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/03/500x_550w_doctor_who_0501_1.jpg)

Unfrozen Caveman Time Lord
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 15, 2010, 11:45:38 AM
Quote
The new TARDIS interior is probably three times the size of David Tennant's — let's just pause to let that sink in. There are multiple levels, joined by staircases. And the Telegraph adds:

"Less grubby than its predecessor, with a transparent plastic floor on the main level, its walls are resplendent with polished copper and its central column features a blown glass decoration that could be straight from Tales of the Unexpected. There are old car seats and downstairs – downstairs! – a swing. With a nod to Paul McGann's Tardis, the central column features an old TV screen on an extendable trellis. It also has a 1980s-style computer keyboard, and a His-Master's-Voice style trumpet speaker."

 :o

 ;D

I was hoping they would give the Tardis a more polished look.  Don't get me wrong I liked the old one,it looked like it had been in a war but I always felt bad see her in such bad shape so I have been hoping she would get fixed up.  This sounds perfect.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on March 19, 2010, 07:55:16 PM
Dear sweet Christ on a bike.

Good choice of shade of blue to compliment skin tone too.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on March 20, 2010, 03:22:22 AM
Wow.

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I've, erm, looked at that image before and never noticed the string of lights.  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 20, 2010, 06:26:20 PM
There are....FOUR...lights...

WRONG SHOW! ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on March 20, 2010, 08:47:38 PM
There are....FOUR...lights...
Pretty sure she would have provided a much more enjoyable interrogation.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on March 21, 2010, 02:25:11 PM
Two new, very different trailers for Series Fnarg!  One UK version and one US version.

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Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 21, 2010, 02:29:35 PM
I just hope someone out there posts the new episodes on Youtube or some other site,I don't want to have to wait until the fall or next spring to see it.  For one thing I don't think I will be able to avoid spoilers for that long.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: goflyblind on March 21, 2010, 02:53:28 PM
there is this thing that's a synonym of cascade and deluge that you could use to get the shows the day after they come out... ::)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 21, 2010, 03:42:45 PM
I have never been able to get those things to work.  Every time I try to use one to get episodes of MST3K that are not on DvD it just sits there and does nothing.  I think you have to program computers for a living or at least spend all you free time on computers to know how to make them work.  At any rate they are not user friendly enough for me.  Also Firefox now has an ad on that lets you download videos right off of youtube.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on March 21, 2010, 05:25:22 PM
Why? Where do you live? It's on BBC America two weeks later.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 22, 2010, 07:40:37 AM
I don't have $70,$50,$40,or even $25 a month extra right now for direct tv.  I am getting sick of everything only being on cable networks. It seems you have to have cable to see anything these days.  Over the air networks are nothing put news and rerun these days.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on March 23, 2010, 03:12:26 AM
I find it amusing that you named yourself after a show you can't afford to see.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 23, 2010, 05:37:37 AM
Well I have been watching since 95.  Back then you could see it on MPT.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on March 23, 2010, 06:25:12 AM
I find it amusing that you named yourself after a show you can't afford to see.

That's actually not a bad idea. Very positive thinking. I'm changing my name to MercedesGClassAndAnthropologie'sEntireSpringLine.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on March 23, 2010, 06:35:19 AM
I find it amusing that you named yourself after a show you can't afford to see.

That's actually not a bad idea. Very positive thinking. I'm changing my name to MercedesGClassAndAnthropologie'sEntireSpringLine.

*changes name to fiercely loyal killer robot*
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 23, 2010, 08:56:16 AM
I find it amusing that you named yourself after a show you can't afford to see.

That's actually not a bad idea. Very positive thinking. I'm changing my name to MercedesGClassAndAnthropologie'sEntireSpringLine.

*changes name to fiercely loyal killer robot*

 :D
That is awesome!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on March 23, 2010, 11:24:52 PM
Hey, this isn't The Secret.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on March 26, 2010, 08:20:45 AM
From io9.com (http://io9.com/5502488/uhura-will-kick-more-ass-in-the-next-star-trek-and-encoms-alan-bradley-is-a-name-you-can-trust):

Quote
Reader Lucife offers this tip:

"Neil Gaiman visited Russia today, and he talked a bit about Doctor Who. He said his episode was supposed to be number eleven of [the] upcoming series, but BBC run out of money. Moffat said to him that usually an episode of Doctor Who requires about 100 hours of work on CGI, and that his script requires 630. He got it down a bit, but it still needed to much CGI, so they moved it. Gaiman said it's going to be something like episode two or three of the sixth series."

With all respect to Lucife, this is second-hand, so unless Gaiman confirms this information, take it as hearsay of course.

Sweet.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on March 26, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Now, I'm just trying to figure out which fucking series would be "the sixth series." Are we talking next season, or are they pretending the previous season was the fifth season instead of season 4.5 or whatever it was? Or do we mean six years from now, since this is season one? Or do they mean the last series of the second Doctor? How do Time Lords figure this shit out?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Sharktopus on March 27, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
I don't know enough Dr Who to really appreciate this, but I'm sure some of you will:

(http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

Full size here. (http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 27, 2010, 02:16:45 PM
I have calling this next season season 32/  It will be the 32nd group of stories produced for TV.  I don't go in for all this new numbered nonsense.  Also I don't see why last year didn't count as a full season,Doctor Who has had short seasons before and they have always counted.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on March 27, 2010, 09:01:39 PM
I don't know enough Dr Who to really appreciate this, but I'm sure some of you will:

(http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

Full size here. (http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

On the subject of cartoony pics of the show, I actually learned something from TV Tropes. Apparently Nelvana were going to make a cartoon of the series way back when; it would have looked something like this

(http://adamzero.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/doctor-who.bmp)

More pics here (http://adamzero.net/?p=253)

Odd.
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Post by: bratpop on March 27, 2010, 09:06:01 PM
Way to go, guys who melted Han's face in The Star Wars Holiday Special.

He looks like Egon Spengler.
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Post by: Sharktopus on March 29, 2010, 09:15:27 AM
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Want to hear something weird? There's a specially recorded "radio trailer" for the new season, in which the Doctor bursts in in the middle of ABBA. [via BlogtorWho]

http://www.youtube.com/v/FVXyN0rnuM8
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Post by: Tripe on March 29, 2010, 09:20:49 AM
Does Lily Savage have a show on Radio 2 now?
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 29, 2010, 09:27:12 AM
I don't know enough Dr Who to really appreciate this, but I'm sure some of you will:

(http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

Full size here. (http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

On the subject of cartoony pics of the show, I actually learned something from TV Tropes. Apparently Nelvana were going to make a cartoon of the series way back when; it would have looked something like this

(http://adamzero.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/doctor-who.bmp)

More pics here (http://adamzero.net/?p=253)

Odd.

wow that is a blast from the past.  i had forgotten all about that.  Yeah i remember fans being pleased that didn't go through.  We figured we were better off with Big Finish and the books.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on March 29, 2010, 10:29:46 AM
I don't know enough Dr Who to really appreciate this, but I'm sure some of you will:

(http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

Full size here. (http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

Wow, my old brain is getting worse with names, I recognize all the outfits but can only remember maybe 5 of their names...
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 29, 2010, 10:42:17 AM
I don't know enough Dr Who to really appreciate this, but I'm sure some of you will:

(http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

Full size here. (http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_mimi_na.jpg)

Wow, my old brain is getting worse with names, I recognize all the outfits but can only remember maybe 5 of their names...

Susan,Vicky,Dodo,Polly,Victoria,Zoe,Liz Shaw,Jo Grant,Sharah Jane,Leela,Romana1,Romana2,Nessya,Teegan,Perie,Mel,Ace,Grace,Rose,and K9.
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Post by: lassieface on March 29, 2010, 11:01:21 AM
I wish they would put it on Hulu or BBC America's site...I don't have money to buy it on iTunes every week.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 29, 2010, 12:11:19 PM
I have found that the episodes urn up pretty quickly on youtube and the BBC never seems to notice.
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Post by: Tripe on March 29, 2010, 12:13:25 PM
They do but you have a window of something like 36-72 hours to watch them usually.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on March 29, 2010, 12:16:48 PM
That is why I use youtubevideodownloader.  It takes me about 18 hours on dial up but I get the episode in the end.
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Post by: Courtney on March 29, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
I of course never utilize
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illegal methods to watch
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television programs because I'm
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a goodly person.
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Post by: Sharktopus on March 31, 2010, 12:09:12 PM
How to Access the BBC iPlayer (and Doctor Who) from Outside the UK (http://lifehacker.com/5504681/how-to-access-the-bbc-iplayer-and-tv-like-doctor-who-from-outside-the-uk)
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Post by: Ortega on April 03, 2010, 06:07:20 PM
Ok.....who saw it?


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Also

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"SPOILERS!" indeed.....
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 03, 2010, 06:09:56 PM
I wonder if it is up on youtube yet :-\
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 03, 2010, 06:16:27 PM
I wonder if it is up on youtube yet :-\

Yeppers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-rq6Rn9RNY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-rq6Rn9RNY)
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 03, 2010, 11:34:01 PM
Well that is a bummer.  Youtube downloader doesn't work any more.  Also XP doesn't work with built in WiFi like my laptop has so now I am going to have to wait a year for the DvD release.  Man what a downer.
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Post by: Tripe on April 04, 2010, 06:24:37 AM
OK finishing watching it now.

Good stuff so far, Amy is absolutely lovely and I'm so pleased to see Annette Crosby who's a fantastic actress.
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Post by: kodiakthejuggler on April 04, 2010, 08:42:55 AM
Amy is ungodly hot.  RROWR.

You said it.....
RROWR!!!
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Post by: Courtney on April 04, 2010, 05:20:38 PM
Loved it, loved it, loved it. All worries assuaged. Smith is going to be awesome. He had me at fish custard.

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Post by: Tripe on April 04, 2010, 05:24:18 PM
It. Was. Just. Fecking. Amazing.

Roll on next week.
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Post by: Courtney on April 04, 2010, 06:03:49 PM
I love Matt Smith.

I just felt like saying it again. I love him.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 04, 2010, 06:11:44 PM
Please stop talking about how good it was,you are killing me :'(  If you have to talk about please say it sucked,then I will not feel like I missed anything ;)
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Post by: Tripe on April 04, 2010, 06:33:30 PM
Yeah it sucked. Sucked that it wasn't longer!
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 04, 2010, 06:35:44 PM
Yeah it sucked. Sucked that it wasn't longer!

 :angry:
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Post by: iv3rdawG on April 04, 2010, 07:34:48 PM
So I've never watched an episode of Doctor Who, but I'm thinking about watching the new series. Will I be completely lost, or would it be the same if I started watching from the series before with Tennant?
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Post by: Tripe on April 04, 2010, 07:39:33 PM
And you'd be starting with a new man at the controls anyway. If you like it then go back at see the last bloke's vision of the show. And then....
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 04, 2010, 07:45:14 PM
Doctor Who doesn't have a whole lot of backstory.   Here is all you really need to know.  Hundreds of years ago The Doctor left his own super powerful people The TimeLords because he got board.  his ship is stuck in the shape of a policebox from the 1950s because it is broken,he has trouble stearing it,and he has become very fond of earth and Humans over the years.  His people can change their bodies 13 times when they get near death,also there is another time traveling race of cyborgs called Daleks.  The Daleks are pretty much Time traveling NAZIs there was a big timewar that parts of it have been shown on the show(The Chase a story from 1965 is pretty much agree to be the first shot of the time war)and a big chunck of it has not.  Near the end of the war The TimeLords became almost the same as the Daleks and the Doctor had to lock them both in the Tiem War so that they can never get out.  Both races are now pretty much dead.  The Doctor now travels the universe just trying to explore it and meet new people.  You should have no trouble following it now.
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Post by: bratpop on April 04, 2010, 09:53:03 PM
Theme song is really poorly mixed and just generally crap. Changing the time vortex from something unique to clouds and lightning makes no sense. The effects don't match their obvious intent to make the show look as good as possible, rather than looking like the classic series. Apart from that, it was perfect. Except for Pond looking at Matt Smith's arse. I know it was probably in the script before he was cast, but... look at him. It would not be a pleasant viewing experience, even for a lady. I bet it's all hairy and spotty and looks like Frankenstein.
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Post by: bratpop on April 04, 2010, 10:03:19 PM
Yes, but they have no cause to suddenly change it. And I don't mind the idea of it being ominous or a metaphor. But it looks like the inside of a tornado. There's nothing magical or cosmic about it. It looks like a show about a police box in a tornado.

I mean, if the TARDIS ever gets into a tornado, how will we tell the difference?

StormLIKE is okay. But terrestrial clouds and lightning is just lazy. They could have made the colors and patterns unusual at least.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 04, 2010, 11:44:04 PM
Theme song is really poorly mixed and just generally crap. Changing the time vortex from something unique to clouds and lightning makes no sense. The effects don't match their obvious intent to make the show look as good as possible, rather than looking like the classic series. Apart from that, it was perfect.

I agree, the theme song is a misstep.  Having viewed it a few times, though, I don't hate it.  Much like the Keff McCullough theme from the late 80s, I've gotten used to it.  However, also like the Keff theme, that doesn't mean I LIKE it.

As for the clouds, I don't really care one way or the other.

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Except for Pond looking at Matt Smith's arse. I know it was probably in the script before he was cast, but... look at him. It would not be a pleasant viewing experience, even for a lady. I bet it's all hairy and spotty and looks like Frankenstein.

I know a few ladies at Gallifrey Base who disagree.  God knows why, but they do.  Apparently, before he got into acting, he was fixing to be a professional footballer until he got injured.  So apparently, he's really athletic.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 05, 2010, 08:20:41 AM
Yes, but they have no cause to suddenly change it.

Sure they do; new Doctor, new TARDIS, new showrunner, etc.

If you hate change this is not the show for you.  The Theme,Tardis,and intro always change every time the actor or producer changes.

I mean just take a look at this.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpFTQfeFUCI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpFTQfeFUCI)
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 05, 2010, 10:43:20 AM
Not sure about the new theme.  Sounds like they were going for something similar to the Tom Baker theme but went too far to the low end (too much bass).

Really liked the episode, not sure he pulled off trying to be menacing when up on the roof but that will probably get better with time.

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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 05, 2010, 11:25:33 AM
No Doctor is at his best in his first few episodes,most of them take a few episodes to get a grip on the part.
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Post by: bratpop on April 05, 2010, 08:02:57 PM
No Doctor is at his best in his first few episodes,most of them take a few episodes to get a grip on the part.
Just keep telling yourself that so you believe you didn't miss the best episode already.
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Post by: ScottotD on April 06, 2010, 08:26:03 AM
Although I consider 'my David' to be era defining much like Tom Baker was, I really enjoyed Smiths' first episode, possibly because I have much more trust in Moffat as a writer than I ever did in Davies (which this episode only confirmed).

Where do I que for a Karen Gillian of my own? I've always had a soft (well, perhaps not so soft) spot for sexy gingers.


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Post by: Sharktopus on April 06, 2010, 12:32:43 PM
Where do I que for a Karen Gillian of my own? I've always had a soft (well, perhaps not so soft) spot for sexy gingers.

 :rimshot:  :D
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 06, 2010, 03:51:36 PM
Well, for those who care about my opinion (a group that consists of exactly no one - even I don't care what my opinion is), there can be only one question on their minds.  And my answer to that question is this:

No.  The novels are NOT canon unless explicitly stated otherwise in the main series.  And just to piss off the hardcore BF fans, neither are the audios.  Any EU that dreamed up a concept as mindbogglingly, boneshatteringly STUPID as "Looming" doesn't deserve to be within SMELLING distance of official status regardless of whatever good books came out of it (even Alien Bodies).  No, no - better to throw out the whole thing, just to be sure that it's all stamped out.  Odds are, it's appeared in more than one.

The Prime Computer ads, however, ARE canon.  Why?  Because FUCK YOU, that's why.






Also, Matt Smith is totally awesome and this might shape up to be the best season since Season 14.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 06, 2010, 04:34:40 PM
I'm a Big Finish Audio fan, and I never thought they were "canon."  Who cares? I still like them. Better than a lot of the shows.

True.  I've only listened to the "Pirates" one.  It was fun.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 06, 2010, 05:44:11 PM
I hated the Looming thing to.  The worst part is I think it was dreamed up by fanboys who just couldn't wrap there heads around the idea that The Doctor had once had a family.  Susan was his Granddaughter there has never been anything said in the series that would make that not the case!
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Post by: Tripe on April 06, 2010, 06:03:29 PM
Nobody wants to think about the Old Chap of Omega.

Yeah looming is arse, why can't the Doctor have relatives? He mentions them fairly often throughout the series, none of those occasions give the impression they're kinda, sorta cousins based on some weird genetic production vat thingamajig.
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Post by: Quicksilver on April 07, 2010, 02:24:33 PM
Well, I just saw ep1 lastnight, I was pleasantly surprised, he's funny looking, but I think he'll work. Me and my wife were really nervous, but he does better than Eccleston already. Not too hot on the music, title and intro change. Mainly dont like the music, but whateva.

Story was pretty good, kept me guessing.

oh and Gillian.... Hot!

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Post by: mrbasehart on April 07, 2010, 03:38:36 PM
Just thought I'd say that I saw the first Dr Who movie with Peter Cushing today.  Not good.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 09, 2010, 01:11:05 PM
Just thought I'd say that I saw the first Dr Who movie with Peter Cushing today.  Not good.

The worst part is what they did to Ian. It's really can be painful in places.  The second movie is better but it still has out of place slapstick.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 09, 2010, 01:48:03 PM
Just thought I'd say that I saw the first Dr Who movie with Peter Cushing today.  Not good.

The worst part is what they did to Ian. It's really can be painful in places.  The second movie is better but it still has out of place slapstick.

Honest to Troughton, I can't even make it through the whole thing.  It really hasn't aged well, and it doesn't even look like it was very good to begin with.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 09, 2010, 01:57:09 PM
Well as I said the  second movie is more straight up adventure with the adult characters pretty much taking center stage,if you can get past the fact that there are a couple of slapstick moments in it it can be enjoyed,unlike the first movie.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 09, 2010, 02:00:33 PM
Well as I said the  second movie is more straight up adventure with the adult characters pretty much taking center stage,if you can get past the fact that there are a couple of slapstick moments in it it can be enjoyed,unlike the first movie.

Huh.  I might look into that sometime.  The first Dalek movie was just so bad that I had no interest in the second one.
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Post by: Courtney on April 09, 2010, 02:07:20 PM
Just thought I'd say that I saw the first Dr Who movie with Peter Cushing today.  Not good.

The worst part is what they did to Ian. It's really can be painful in places.  The second movie is better but it still has out of place slapstick.

Honest to Troughton, I can't even make it through the whole thing.  It really hasn't aged well, and it doesn't even look like it was very good to begin with.

Same here, I tried watching it and got distracted by shiny things, then lost interest.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 09, 2010, 02:30:42 PM
I love Matt Smith.

I just felt like saying it again. I love him.

It seems like fans of RTD-Who hate the new ep., and old-schoolers like it lots.  Is there anyone here who's purely NuWho?

I haven't gotten that sense at all, actually.  The Audience Appreciation Index figures for the episode were 86, which is really high.  So the Not-We approve, apparently.

Christ, did I really just use the term Not-We to refer to normal people?  I'm using fan-language more and more often when it comes to this show.  I'm utterly hopeless.
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Post by: Courtney on April 09, 2010, 02:54:28 PM
I was basing this on comments on the internet reviews, so it's admittedly a pretty minor sub-group.

I really liked it.  I still haven't even seen the end of Tennant's reign, but if it's like those first three "specials," ugh. 

I would imagine a large portion of the hate comes from people pissed that this Doc isn't as pretty as the last one. But with all due respect to DT's hotness, it's not like he's exactly the best looking guy on the planet either. He's rather pointy.

Forgive me, oh holy DT. I think you're beautiful.

Oh, and the last two were good. Waters of Mars was the first of the specials I really liked and even that I was kind of high levels of meh on. But the last two were good. That said, they'll make you SO ready to say bye to RTD.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 09, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
Again I have to say I find it funny when people are getting mad about a show that has had 11 actors in the lead role and close to 20 producers changing :D
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 09, 2010, 04:59:56 PM
Which one has "spaniel eyes"?

Matt Smith looks like a caveman. An unusually intelligent, above-average looks-wise caveman.
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 09, 2010, 05:12:05 PM
Dear God, I see it now. He does spaniel eyes! Is that a common expression in England? I've heard "Spanish eyes," but never "spaniel eyes."
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 09, 2010, 06:17:15 PM
I was basing this on comments on the internet reviews, so it's admittedly a pretty minor sub-group.

I really liked it.  I still haven't even seen the end of Tennant's reign, but if it's like those first three "specials," ugh. 

I would imagine a large portion of the hate comes from people pissed that this Doc isn't as pretty as the last one.

I think you got it in one.  My sister isn't admitting it, but I think that's her problem with it.  Of course, she hasn't seen "The Eleventh Hour" yet.
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Post by: Pak-Man on April 09, 2010, 11:43:06 PM
Well I'm not a fan of Dr. Who. I suspect I would be, but there's a lot of backpedaling I have to do to get into the series. I haven't seen a thing.

But I poked into this thread to let everyone know that there's gonna be a Dr. Who series of free-to-play adventure games by the creator of Broken Sword. IGN has the details.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/108/1082771p1.html

Maybe THAT'S how I'll end up getting sucked into Dr. Who....
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Post by: ScottotD on April 10, 2010, 02:49:23 AM
I was basing this on comments on the internet reviews, so it's admittedly a pretty minor sub-group.

I really liked it.  I still haven't even seen the end of Tennant's reign, but if it's like those first three "specials," ugh. 

I would imagine a large portion of the hate comes from people pissed that this Doc isn't as pretty as the last one.

I think you got it in one.  My sister isn't admitting it, but I think that's her problem with it.  Of course, she hasn't seen "The Eleventh Hour" yet.


That's my problem with it.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 10, 2010, 01:48:55 PM
Hey I love your avatar ;D  My only problem with the 11th hour is that I have not seen it yet.
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Post by: goflyblind on April 10, 2010, 03:35:14 PM
so, regarding today's episode...
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 12, 2010, 02:03:37 PM
(http://cache-08.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/04/500x_dw-0411-1.jpg)

How many lumps of EXTERMINATE would you like in your tea?
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 13, 2010, 10:44:26 AM
(http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/04/500x_votd11.jpg)

Is the Doctor flashing a Dalek? I guess they've been pointing phallic objects at him for years...
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 13, 2010, 11:10:44 AM
(http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/04/500x_votd11.jpg)

Is the Doctor flashing a Dalek? I guess they've been pointing phallic objects at him for years...

Or offering to fix his clogged drains.

"Sir, are you aware that you're leaking coolant at an alarming rate? Let me just patch you up with some hot resin."
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 13, 2010, 11:28:22 AM
"The human was impervious to our most powerful magnetic fields, yet in the end he succumbed to a harmless sharpened stick."
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 13, 2010, 07:32:57 PM
WARNING: The four posts to follow are NOT mine (a fact for which I am simultaneously jealous and very, very glad).  What they ARE is quite simply the most brilliant, awesome, and completely terrifying posts in the history of the Gallifrey Base forum (and that is saying A LOT).  Brace yourselves:
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 13, 2010, 07:37:18 PM
Okay guys, I am new here... I am an artist and graphics designer. I also own my own comics company called capital comics studios. We have yet to publish some books but they will be out sometime soon maybe next year..

I have spent the better part of last year culminating data, researching through countless Doctor Who novels, DVDs, Online Resources and comics to come up with what I believe is the definitive Tardis example in its own private dimension..

now not everyone is going to agree with what I have put together, but the actualization of the design after careful study, left me in awe..Mind you it is not due to my shoddy line work, however it is due to the countless and consistent references made by Who material that I find fascinating.. the end result of all of a year of my life taking every free moment I had to find and store data, reading and reading theories, descriptions, fan speculations and fan art on the subject of the Tardis... I finally ended up with something tangible and in the final analysis, I see the brilliance of the design. One could see where the Time Lords establish themselves as a sort of religion being they are so close to the essence of the universe, and the ultimate questions of creation. Still As I post the images I have constructed of the Tardis, please allow me to explain that the design in no way conveys the true actualization i have for the machine..

Now the schematic I am about to post below shows the Tardis from the Side angle..
But before I get into detail about the design, I would like to point out that the description of what the Tardis Looks like from the Observation Towers, is quoted as such:

"Massive towers give access to the "outside" of the interior of a TARDIS. When viewed from the top of these towers the interior looks like thousands of massive white domes connected by twisting white corridors. Each Dome represents one room. The domes rest on a flat plane with Corinthian columns (approximately a hundred meters in diameter) supporting a ceiling that is lost in gray and black clouds."

This description is somewhat Vague But extremely Descriptive.. Now, though the description says that each Dome represents 1 Room of the Tardis, I have noted many instances through my research that the Domes themselves do in fact represent 1 massive large room, however, these massive rooms act like a housing, which in side partitions are set up, which determine separate spaces.. I liken it to an office floor, which is separated into many different work stations via cubicle partitions.. this is true for the "Rooms" or Domes of the Tardis.. which explains a lot of how the Ship's mechanics work..

Are any of you familiar with carbon Mesh nano-Tubes?:
http://www.nanojury.org.uk/intro_nano.html (http://www.nanojury.org.uk/intro_nano.html)
An Episode of Scifi Science with Michio Kaku has some interesting shots of how Carbon nano tubes are "grown" and how strong they are..
Compressed Carbon is what is comprised in Diamonds and is one of the strongest substances int he world.. this makes sense considering the Tardis is super strong and would have to be to exist as its own center of its own reality and withstand dimensional and gravitational forces..

anyhow, the organic nature of growing these tubes is amazing, and how they resemble the Tardis interior..the Hexagon is a super strong structure, and this is because it holds to other molecular structures on more sides then a normal molecule.. the Bee-Hive and it's Hexagonal structure is also a prime example of the flexible and yet superb design that occurs naturally in Nature, and also in nano grown Fibers.. this can not be coincidence.. theology aside, I marvel at the science behind the tardis.. anyhow, the design I have below incorporates so many little nuances that lead me to believe that this is the final end game of what a tardis inside the artificial dimension should be...

think about these key points..

1. the Tardis Exists within a cloudy sphere.. the clouds of pure artron and cosmic energies flow downward as if you were seeing this ship in a vertical wind tunnel, with an orb in the center bending the smoke around itself, and yet that smoke circles the bottom of the sphere and comes back to the top and swirls down again.. in a clockwork like motion.(genius! pure Genius who ever came up with that..)

2. the Vortex below the main body of the ship is swirling from Black and gray clouds to a blue and white time vortex, which is directly affected by the housed artificial Eye of Harmony..(artificial Singularity) the true eye of Harmony is of course on Gallifrey..

3. the tardis consists of domes massive white domes, and is connected by twisting organic looking corridors.. this is pretty interesting as it gives an almost DNA look to the ship (which is also fascinating because it is suppose to be grown and alive..

4. The massive pillars of Destiny as they are called (or referred to as looking like Corinthian columns by some, Ace the doctors companion form her account from one of the observation towers in one novel) these Pillars at the top emit an energy field that bends it around the tardis exterior and also allows for a small pocket of atmosphere around the top portion of the ship itself..

5. The Time Sceptre is the main section that drives the tardis, and runs right through the middle of the ship.. some examples I have encountered over simplify this, and show the doctor's control room just above it, however that does not jive with other sources and recounts which explain that there are rooms and bowels or lower levels the doctor must venture to reach the housing of the eye of Harmony within his own ship..

6. there are also recounts and in the comics especially, mentions of the great 3 auxiliary engines that are in place should the eye of harmony need to be expelled.. and jettisoned.. these engines would allow the Tardis to retain it's form until it can be fixed by the Time Lord technicians..

7. the Tardis is alive and grown, so the hexagonal shapes that are littered throughout the ship reflect that nano technology used in the materials to grow the ship.. It is just amazing to me how wonderful and how the nature of that nano tech mirrors the interiors of the tardis walls.. and in the design i incorporate this.. now it does specify that the ship rests on a flat plane.. so I made sure that the hexagonal (honey comb) design was beneath the domes, and conveys a sturdy structure that can withstand the tremendous gravitational and temporal stresses of time travel..

8. The Tardis is also able to transmit a telephone signal through time and space.. and pick up psychic signals and distress calls, so since the main area that the tardis is focusing its energies on is the swirling enegies of the time vortex below its Time sceptre, I felt that the addition of the mentioned on occasion Transmitters (satellite dishes) where placed focusing in that direction..

10. the Mythology and religion of the Time Lords..the Time Lords hold an almost mythic and religious view of time and space, and are certainly revered by other races throughout the universe, the shadow proclamation even called them the stuff of fairy tales and legend..still when you look at the Tardis from the side, it almost conveys a sort of image of tales of Arabian Mythology, which has these palaces atop clouds in the sky with long towers stretching upwards, and god like beings who reside within..controlling space it and time itself..this image didn't come to me until after I saw the final culmination of my line work..I was stunned..
http://www.3drender.org/modules/pukiwiki/568.html (http://www.3drender.org/modules/pukiwiki/568.html)
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what gets me is that you have the greek looking influences of their citadels, and columns, and yet they are capped with these energy conductors which bend the sky, much like the caps you see in the Muslim regions on top of temples.. and then there are the massive white domes which from a distance could look like clouds, and on top a palace where the gods reside... I am thinking Aladdin..anyhow, it could be construed that the this Tardis design and technology sorta bleeds through, since the Tardis is also psychic, and it's construction has influenced the designs of buildings and structures of Man, like some sort of psychic presence that bleeds through from the artificial dimensional gateway and inspires humans prone to that psychic wavelength.. Just an interesting thought..

anyhow after all my drivel here is the final images I put together..

Tardis Exterior within the Artificial Dimensional Pocket:
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The Main Console Control Dome:
(the Doctor's Time Rotor is off center, and though it is connected to the Time Sceptre, which is the main engineering that runs through the center of his Tardis, it does not have to be sitting right on top of the structure.. this is due to the placement and the need to have the Dimensional causeway open and free of the dome.
The Dome itself and the extra rooms are inside the rim of the cap, and extend below.. the Blue circle is meant to represent the Doctor's entire control room.. here we finally see perspective on how the Tardis is Massive! The Little boxes around the smaller Dome are Maintenance hatches.. the only place where the Tardis Has Windows is on the Observation pods on the Observation Towers, see below.. This Control Bridge is added later after the main Tardis Structure is grown.
see Diagram Below:
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The Observation Tower:
The Observation Towers which overlook the whole of the Tardis hang high enough to see the massive structure spread out before the observer, yet far enough below the Tops of the Pillars of Destiny, and to most onlookers it seems as if the Tardis has a Sky of clouds.. this is because the outer reaches high above the Observation Towers are filled with Particles which reignite themselves after falling downwards to the Singularity and the opening to the Time Vortex..
The Observation Towers have shock technology built into their Long Elevator Shaft, and can lock the elevator at each level in case of extreme turbulence..the Elevator to the Observation Towers are massive and could house 4 Suv's front to back in a row in each direction. In times of great distress, the Observation pods can be jettisoned as well. The Pods have large massive polarized Transparent Plastic like Windows, virtually indestructible and somewhat flexible, like the Skin of the Tardis Domes..These Towers are added later after the main Tardis Structure is grown.
see Diagram Below:
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x292/Maximal-Primal/Doctor%20Who/TardisType40ObservationDeck2.png)

the Dome rooms that proliferate the flat plain of Tessallate Membranes are in much more diversity in sizes, and in number..this is in no way to convey what a full Tardis would look like, mind you.. though the Tardis CAN grow infinitely, there is nothing in the series to suggest it infinite.

but consider this, that on the outer perimeter of the ship, the Pillars of Destiny stop, and a new layer of Membranes form..as the Tardis Grows in size, the membranes grow outward, eventually forming new Pillars, and dome rooms.. this type of design could stretch out to infinity, provided the Tardis has enough energy to maintain that type of structure..

for the purposes of pure time constraints, I have done the very basic inner Tardis area..I didn't want the Image to be too big, as to loose detail.. so for what it is worth, this is the TOP VIEW of the Tardis.. as it should look..
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x292/Maximal-Primal/Doctor%20Who/AbsoluteTardisTopView-2.png)

the Dome rooms also jettison with the rest of the ship and the "twisted and winding" corridor separates and the dome left behind is sealed before jettison, leaving the integrity of the ship in tact.

I do have a theory about the War Tardis.. that since it is meant to be a war ship, it would conserve its energy and would not have as many rooms as a normal Tardis would have..the ship would be small and efficient..

Just a theory..Plus I wonder if Raston Warrior Robots were standard cargo on a WAR TARDIS?? Invasion forces??


There is an extensive list of TV episode related content listed here in the Tardis Wikia Page, of which i used while doing my research to watch those specific Episdoes..

From the Tardis Wikia Page:

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The TARDIS interior has a vast number of rooms and corridors. The exact dimensions of the interior have not been specified, but apart from living quarters, the interior includes an art gallery (which is actually an ancillary power station), a greenhouse, library, a bathroom with a swimming pool (which was jettisoned by the Seventh Doctor in Paradise Towers after it sprang a leak), a medical bay, several brick-walled storage areas (all seen in The Invasion of Time, 1978), and a secondary control room (with ornate wood panels, and was used for a time by the Fourth Doctor).[4] Portions of the TARDIS can also be isolated or reconfigured; the Doctor was able to jettison 25% of the TARDIS's structure in Castrovalva to provide additional "thrust".

Despite a widespread assumption that the interior of the TARDIS is infinite, there are indications that it is not. In Full Circle (1980), Romana stated that the weight of the TARDIS in Alzarius' Earth-like gravity was 5 × 106 kilograms (5000 tonnes). This presumably refers to its internal weight, as the external part of the TARDIS is light enough for it to be lifted or otherwise moved with relative ease (although most real police boxes were concrete and hence quite difficult to move): several men lift it up in Marco Polo, a group of small blue maintenance workers on Platform One push it along the ground in "The End of the World", and a quartet of Weeping Angels are able to rock it back and forth in "Blink", to name a few. If the exterior of the TARDIS is moved, the movement is transmitted to its interior.

This relates to the fact that the Tardis outside (Police Box) is Relative to the Interior Space ship..they are one and the same..

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distinctive architectural feature of the TARDIS interior is the "roundel".[24] In the context of the TARDIS, a roundel is a circular decoration that adorns the walls of the rooms and corridors of the TARDIS, including the console room. Some roundels conceal TARDIS circuitry and devices, as seen in the serials The Wheel in Space (1968), Logopolis, Castrovalva (1981), Arc of Infinity (1983), Terminus (1983), and Attack of the Cybermen (1985). The design of the roundels has varied throughout the show's history, from a basic circular cut-out with black background to a photographic image printed on wall board, to translucent illuminated discs in later serials. In the secondary console room, most of the roundels were executed in recessed wood panelling, with a few decorative ones in what appeared to be stained glass. In the TARDIS design from 2005-January 2010, the roundels are built into hexagonal recesses in the walls. It is was announced by Steven Moffat that this design will change when the series returns later in 2010.

Other rooms seen include living quarters for many of the Doctor's companions, although the Doctor's own bedroom has never been mentioned or seen. The TARDIS also had a "Zero Room"—a chamber that was shielded from the rest of the universe and provided a restful environment for the Fifth Doctor to recover from his regeneration in Castrovalva—which was among the 25% jettisoned. However, the Seventh Doctor spin-off novel Deceit indicated that the Doctor rebuilt the Zero Room shortly before the events of that novel. In some of the First Doctor serials, a nearby room contains a machine that dispenses food or nutrition bars to the Doctor and his companions. This machine disappears after the first few serials, although mention is occasionally made of the TARDIS kitchen.

Although the interior corridors were not seen in the 2005 series, the fact that they still exist was established in "The Unquiet Dead", when the Doctor gives Rose some very complicated directions to the TARDIS wardrobe. The wardrobe is mentioned several times in the original series and spin-off fiction, and seen in The Androids of Tara (1978), The Twin Dilemma (1984) and Time and the Rani (1987). The redesigned version, from which the Tenth Doctor chooses his new clothes, was seen in "The Christmas Invasion" (2005) as a large multi-levelled room with a helical staircase. Designer Ed Thomas has suggested that more rooms may be seen in coming episodes.[25] The Doctor also mentions in "The Shakespeare Code" that the TARDIS has an attic.

In The Eleventh Hour the Doctor mentions that the TARDIS has a library and a swimming pool.

From the Writer Peter Darvill-Evans is where the coined description of the Tardis is based off of (and many other writers have also based their descriptions on), and which is my central core theory of what the tardis is.. you can find his work in the Novel Deceit. Also there are other materials related to this Novel, with doctor who magazine, which also includes Abslom Daak, and the Planet Arcadia.

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"Massive towers give access to the "outside" of the interior of a TARDIS. When viewed from the top of these towers the interior looks like thousands of massive white domes connected by twisting white corridors. Each Dome represents one room. The domes rest on a flat plane with Corinthian columns (approximately a hundred meters in diameter) supporting a ceiling that is lost in gray and black clouds."
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 13, 2010, 07:37:30 PM
By extrapolating the material from the Novels, the various websites, and combining it with the specific episodes listed above, you can get an idea of what the Tardis is and how it works..

also I should mention the 1996 Movie with the 8TH Doctor also has an extensive scene which shows the interior of the Tardis and relates to the design I have produced. Namely the Artificial Eye of Harmony that rests in the Tardis Time Sceptre engine section..

now the  energy under the Tardis is mixed with the energy flowing downward from the top, the Tardis then pulls in and pumps to the main reaction chamber which is then energized  and becomes the golden Artron energy that the Tardis then pumps to all of its systems like blood in veins within humans.. the central pump or heart is a reaction chamber below the Tardis control dome.. it excites the Artron energy and enhances it to refined capacity.. the excess is then piped out to the Pillars of Destiny which (hold back the reality and gravitational forces by its energy field) when the Tardis is caught outside of the normal reality and in that parallel world, it ceases to have access to the vortex, and thus is unable to process any of its energy replenishment..until the doctor finds 1 single power cell and excites it with his own Artron energy..this then allows the cells to self generate enough energy to power up the emergency generators which can create a sustaining energy field and power systems until the Tardis can get back to its own reality and have access to the vortex once more..
On a side note, the reaction chamber refines the Artron particles into an energy source which then is charged and placed within the power cells below the main console of the Tardis.. though they look small these power cells are compacted, refined and house tremendous energy.. this is why those Energy particles are piped into the reaction chamber as they are excited with Pure chroniton, Tachyon and Graviton particles..which flow from the Eye of Harmony and the Time Vortex Tunnel..

the exterior colors of the tardis should look like this 3d renders inerior colors..
http://www.who3d.co.uk//index.php?option=com_datsogallery&Itemid=34&func=detail&catid=1&id=3 (http://www.who3d.co.uk//index.php?option=com_datsogallery&Itemid=34&func=detail&catid=1&id=3)
Though my ultimate dream is to see this ship, the interaction of the particles, cloud, and time vortex as shown in 3D, I would be equally happy just knowing that I have contacted those with the 3D skill and atleast showed them..thats all I can do for now.. maybe if you have someone who is interested in helping to realize this art dream, that would be cool.. I would welcome any 3D artists who wish to work on this with me.. my eventual goal is to submit a 10 second video of the ship as it expands a section of its inner hull, the clouded energy particles and their reaction to the vortex, and the engines roaring as the interstitial antenna teleports the police box about the galaxy.. (actually the tardis moves reality around it.. and then moves the entrance from point a to point b.. in some cases it dematerializes, and then rematerializes in the area of space it wants to go.. without landing..and is moved or flown (which is actually the tardis bending reality space around the pocket dimension it exists in via the vortex below the eye of harmony or singularity.) this is kinda akin to warp speed, which moves space warped around the ship, only this is done from within a separate pocket dimension..and it has access to the time corridor..

anyways.. I appreciate your time and looking into what I have developed..this took lots of my free time to research, books, the show itself, websites, and quantum theorists students via emails...anyhow, if you know of anyone interested in helping me realize this in a 3d render.. or who wants to do one and put it on youtube that would be cool too.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 13, 2010, 07:40:10 PM
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x292/Maximal-Primal/Doctor%20Who/AbsoluteTardisSideViewFinalBest-2.png)
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 13, 2010, 07:40:58 PM
Here is the Update to the design sheets and a Brief Explanation to break it down for easier understanding..
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Tardis: Type 40 Mark I

The Tardis is a Unique and Powerful Ship. The Reason the tardis Exists is because it is a ship that can sustain itself in an artificially created reality.

Rassilon, Omega, and a figure only known as the "Other" created the Eye of Harmony, the immense power source that allows Time Travel to Be Possible. The Singularity at the center of an Artificially created Black Hole was captured and secured on Gallifrey. Using this Singularity the Time Lord Technicians used the Singularity to Punch a hole in Time and Space, to create a mini artificial universe, in which they grew a Tardis base structure..

This Structure was then Modified using technology to create a ship, with engines, and a central Control console. A Time Lord whose Genetic structure was also tied to the ship and the generated energy known as "Artron" was given the ability to regenerate 13 times..

Artron Energy is the combined Hyper Reaction of Tachyons, Graviton, and Chroniton Particles smashed at a super speed, and the resulting power produced is the Artron energy.. Matter, Time, and Gravitational forces coming together. the Tardis is able to live off these particles and produce its own life energy..

The Dynamorphic generators at the Base of the Ship bends space. The Tardis isn't teleported as it is simply dematerialized and Rematerialized.. Let me explain how that works and why it is different, this is due to the fact that the Time Scepter  which is open to the time vortex and regular space, and Dynamorphic generators is bending Space and OUR reality around the artificial Reality in which the Tardis exists.. so as this happens it looks as if the ship is being teleported, when the reality is, that it moves so fast because of the space warping around it that it dematerializes and re-materializes in its new area.. (As the Space Warps around the Tardis BOX, if you were watching it, you would see it disappear as the engines roar, then when it stops its bending of space it looks as if it comes into being as the engines wind down) The Time Scepter can also make the Tardis fly in conventional space, as seen in the episode "the Run Away Bride" By bending space around the reality at a constant.. and slower pace, this takes a lot of energy and control by the operator to maintain, whereas just traveling vast distances does as well, but in a different manner, which may seem easier to the Tardis operator since the movement doesn't have to be as precise..as to fly the tardis like a hovering jet or car.
 since the Tardis Interior is existent in its own Reality it can access parts of space and time through the hole that is kept open by the artificial singularity on board the Tardis. The Artificial Singularity is charged by the Original Eye of Harmony on Gallifrey.

As the Tardis Spins it creates its own gravity and as it draws energy from the vortex, it feeds those particles into the ship via particle collectors on the ships edge. The energy by product is Artron, the particles that are spent are expelled through the pillars of Destiny and then they create a cloud and that cloud flows downward to the base and is then re-energized by the Vortex and sent upward to the particle collectors, an the cycle is repeated over and over again..

THE TARDIS IS RELATIVE TO THE OUTER DOOR AS THE DOOR IS RELATIVE TO THE TARDIS WITHIN. THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME.. what happens to the exterior of the Tardis affects the inner Mini Artificial universe and vice verse.. this is also how the mini universe can exist within a small blue box. The ship, the reality, the particles are the same as the Police Box.

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Tardis: Type 40, Mark I

Here we see the Tardis from the Bottom of the ship and from a different side angle. The Side angle shows the Dimensional Transmitter, and the communications, sensory antenna.

The Bottom of the Tardis is an important component in how the ship works.

As the Energy is drawn from around the Tardis, and fed into the main reaction chamber, just above the Time Sceptre, it is then collided and turned into Artron Energy, the life's blood of the Tardis itself, as well as the Energy used by the Doctor to Regenerate his body. This is why the Doctor must be inside the Tardis as he regenerates, because the Time Lord DNA structure is modified to accept that energy and react by regenerating their form into a new body.

Below the Tardis are several sections that affect the Time Space travel of the Ship.. Below is an explanation of each Component:

Dynamorphic Generators:
The Dynamoprhic Generators act like Warp engines in Star Trek.. they Bend "Normal" Space around the Tardis and Transport the Outer Box to any point in the known universe, as well as time. Time Travel is a cohesion of the Dynamorphic Generators working in concert with the Cloister Room and the Artificial Eye of Harmony to move the ship into the Time Vortex and move time and space around the Ship. These Generators can make the Tardis Fly in a precise manner, and are used to stabilize the Larger Ship within it's own reality.

Dimensional Transmitter:
The Dimensional Transmitter is used to beam information and data or signals through the Time Vortex and resonates at a level faster then light in a subspace frequency.

Communications, and Sensory Antenna:
This dish device is used to receive psychic thoughts, psychic distress calls, intergalactic and computer distress signals, and normal time space telephone cellular signals. (most links that are used in that frequency are consistently maintained by the antenna unless cut off by a removal from space and time)


Cloister Room:
The Cloister Room is a section of the Ship which houses the Artificial Eye of Harmony. This object is an artificial Singularity with a sense of consciousness tied to the Tardis itself. the Artificial Eye of Harmony is charged like a battery when a Tardis is First Born, and is the principle object that allows the Artificial Reality to remain open to "Normal Space."

The Original Eye of Harmony on Gallifrey is used to punch the hole in space and Time to create the artificial universe through which the Tardis is then grown. Once Grown that Tardis then needs it's own Eye of Harmony to remain connected to this reality and provide a principle power source for the Tardis. Hence the Name "eye of Harmony" the harmony of two Universes kept in constant view of each other. The Artificial Eye of Harmony's Raw Graviton and Tachyon Power is then focused into the Time Sceptre and used to keep the dimensional gateway open and allows the Tardis to extract Graviton, Chronitron, and Tachyon Particles from the Time Vortex rift. Those particles when bombarded in the main reaction Chamber then become Artron Energy.

Time Sceptre:
This is the main device that is used to keep the Time Vortex, and relative Space open to the Tardis. This is also the Link that allows the Tardis Main Dimensional Causeway (a Doorway to Real Space) open and active. The Time Sceptre focuses the energies of the Artificial Eye of Harmony into it's shaft, which then focuses itself on a temporal point in "Real Space" and maintains an active opening always replenishing itself and the cloudy particles that are then used to sustain it's own reality bubble.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 13, 2010, 07:43:48 PM
BBQ Notes:

All this and he STILL can't point out where the bathroom is.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: mrbasehart on April 13, 2010, 07:47:02 PM
That's an impressive display of nerdism right there. 
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Post by: Sharktopus on April 13, 2010, 09:20:36 PM
Kinda makes my wiener joke pale in comparison...
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 14, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
tl;dr.  But what the fuck are "Pillars of Destiny"?

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4. The massive pillars of Destiny as they are called (or referred to as looking like Corinthian columns by some, Ace the doctors companion form her account from one of the observation towers in one novel) these Pillars at the top emit an energy field that bends it around the tardis exterior and also allows for a small pocket of atmosphere around the top portion of the ship itself.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: IamTorgo on April 15, 2010, 01:26:47 PM
I watch doctor who for the cheesy sci fi factor. I don't really like it, it has very strange logic...but it's something to watch and is actually better than a lot of the stuff that's seen on TV today...still hate the movie though
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: ScottotD on April 16, 2010, 09:01:25 AM
Someone mentioned not being able to watch the shows (or understanding torrents) not sure if this will work outside Australia but, try this: http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/544847
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 16, 2010, 09:02:47 AM
Someone mentioned not being able to watch the shows (or understanding torrents) not sure if this will work outside Australia but, try this: http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/544847

Yeah, it's region-locked.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 16, 2010, 10:13:52 AM
Looks like this season they are all going to be available on iTunes HD.  I might give that a try, the 9 minute free preview looked pretty good.  The should be on iTunes a week after they are on BBC america.

Managed to see the first episode streamed but all the streaming sites seem to have gotten more aggressive in taking them down.

Why doesn't BBC america have full episodes online? They do it in just about every country except the USA.  Over a year ago they were talking to Google about it but still nothing.  Can't be the iTunes deal since other shows on iTunes are streamed by their own network sites.
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Post by: lassieface on April 16, 2010, 10:34:58 AM
It actually is a pretty good deal on iTunes. You can get the whole season is SD for $22. I'm all about supporting good shows.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 16, 2010, 12:11:27 PM
Just went to Amazon VOD, looks like they will also have the new episodes in HD, but no price up yet, might finally give me a reason to run a cable to my Panasonic BD player that can do Amazon VOD...
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: lassieface on April 16, 2010, 12:24:38 PM
Just went to Amazon VOD, looks like they will also have the new episodes in HD, but no price up yet, might finally give me a reason to run a cable to my Panasonic BD player that can do Amazon VOD...

I subscribed to see the price and it is (shockingly) more expensive than iTunes.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 16, 2010, 12:26:24 PM
How much was it?  I have an account with Amazon not iTunes so I would like to know how much it is on each site.  Thanks.
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Post by: lassieface on April 16, 2010, 12:37:34 PM
iTunes
$33.99 - HD
$22.99 - SD

Amazon
?
sorry, I canceled the subscriptions after I saw it was more expensive...
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 16, 2010, 12:39:36 PM
so you have to buy it as a season,you can't buy it episode by episode?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: lassieface on April 16, 2010, 12:42:32 PM
No, you can. But there aren't any episodes out yet so the price isn't listed. But I think it's 2.99 for hd and 1.99 for sd.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 16, 2010, 12:43:59 PM
Three bucks fr HD?!  Sounds good to me!

Hey do you know if Amazon or iTunes works if you download them onto a thumb drive at a computer with highspeed and then put them onto your home computer,or is there copy protection that would stop that? 

I know it's strange but the only place I can get highspeed is the library so I would need to be about to download it to a drive and then put it on my computer at home.  Sorry but all the questions but I am trying to find out everything I can before spending money.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: goflyblind on April 16, 2010, 12:52:29 PM
Hey do you know if Amazon or iTunes works if you download them onto a thumb drive at a computer with highspeed and then put them onto your home computer,or is there copy protection that would stop that? 

I know it's strange but the only place I can get highspeed is the library so I would need to be about to download it to a drive and then put it on my computer at home.  Sorry but all the questions but I am trying to find out everything I can before spending money.

for itunes at least, you would have to authorize the computer with your itunes account (and you can only authorize five computers with one account at any one time), then de-authorize the computer after you've copied onto your flash drive. i don't think the library would let you do that.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 16, 2010, 12:55:23 PM
Darn it!  We really need a government program to put highspeed lines in the country.  It's not just this you can't do anything with out highspeed any more and the private corporation just will not do it.  Man I hate the country!
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on April 16, 2010, 01:22:02 PM
That would be so good.  Most companies now make yo go to their websites to apply for work and then they have so many videos and animations that you can't even use the site with out highspeed not to mention all the places that now when you want info on them just tell you to go to their website.  Being stuck out in the country really sucks.  I didn't mind it at first but after 9 years of the highspeed line being less then a mile a way and no matter how many times everyone on our street tries to get them out here being told that there isn't any money in it I am getting sick of this.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 16, 2010, 01:30:15 PM
Three bucks fr HD?!  Sounds good to me!

Hey do you know if Amazon or iTunes works if you download them onto a thumb drive at a computer with highspeed and then put them onto your home computer,or is there copy protection that would stop that? 

I know it's strange but the only place I can get highspeed is the library so I would need to be about to download it to a drive and then put it on my computer at home.  Sorry but all the questions but I am trying to find out everything I can before spending money.

I'm sure in both cases that you have to put software on the machine to download it, and you can't do that on library computers. 

Yea, I just tried it for the free preview, you need to install the amazon unbox player (not easy to find on their website..), set it up with your amazon account info, then you can download the video (again not an easy process, requires you to have the player open and then go to the website and send the video), then it saves it on your hard drive.  Then you can watch the file in the unbox player anywhere as long as it's been setup with the same amazon account info (I think..).

So it's pretty much the same as iTunes except you've got more playback options.  Once you buy you can watch online from anywhere anytime streaming, download to the PC like I said above, or do streaming to lots of different boxes like BD players, Roku, etc...  They also support some mobile players but I don't think iPod is one of them.

As for the price, if you get the season pass that saves you about 15 cents per episode, if there are 13 episodes this season that would be 36.92 for the season in HD vs 33.99 on iTunes.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 16, 2010, 01:35:32 PM
Darn it!  We really need a government program to put highspeed lines in the country.  It's not just this you can't do anything with out highspeed any more and the private corporation just will not do it.  Man I hate the country!

There's something along these lines being proposed, I think.  There was a story about it on NPR last week anyway.

The government has tried a bunch of times to get broadband initiatives started, but the big companies like comcast and verizon always manage to kill them, I'd say it's pretty unlikely it will amount to much this time. 
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 16, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Yeah I mean right now you have to get Comcast if you want cable in delaware so they charge up to $100 a month for service.  im sure if there was another company we would see the price go down.  There are at least three satilite companies and there prices go as low as $30 a month for basic tv service.

Too nad Hughesnet turned out to be a ripp off.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 16, 2010, 06:00:09 PM
Tried taking the free Amazon Unbox video I downloaded at work home and it will not load into the unbox player, looking around the net it seems the DRM Amazon uses is highly linked to the particular installation of the software.  I even uninstalled and reinstalled the player at home and it comes up as a different system on Amazon's site, did it again and it shows 3 different systems at home, what a joke.   So if something goes wrong and you lose the file you are screwed, only way to download something again is if the uninstall program is able to connect to amazon and deauthorize the files from the amazon server as they are deleted from your computer.  All this is in the licence agreement you have to accept to use the software, found a few websites that blast the user agreement for being one of the most restrictive out there.

For streaming Amazon HD I'm running into some weird limit at home, it's only using about 1/3 of my bandwidth, at just under 1 meg the HD stream doesn't look as sharp as the downloaded files.

Testing out the free episode of Planet Earth HD at home, see how long it takes to download.  But I may go with iTunes, who would have thought their DRM would be less restrictive...  At least with iTunes you can download the file once and play it on up to 5 computers as long as they are authorized.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 16, 2010, 07:55:22 PM
yeah I'll keep my dvds and Blu raysa thank you.  The only way i would support download of streaming media is if there was no DRM and i could download it as many times as I wanted to any computer I wanted so that even if my computer crashed i would not lose my shows that I had paid good money for.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 17, 2010, 12:20:26 AM
I've been fighting this unbox program on and off for 6 hours now, trying to get it to play something at home, turns out my windows DRM was messed up, since this is the first program I've needed it for I never knew about it.  Had to delete some files, delete some registry entries, then go to an obscure microsoft web page to rebuild the windows DRM files....  Looks like unbox is now finally working. 

So, this is really turning me off to the amazon VOD.  You would think for software so dependant on windows DRM that their installer would check it, doesn't look like it's very well written software.  Only way I tracked it down to the DRM was I figured I'd reinstall media player 11 and that installer gave the DRM error message.

At least with iTunes even though you are limited to one download per purchase you can back up those files, and once a year you are allowed to reset all of your authorized computers, chances of having 5 computer meltdowns in one year are pretty low.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 17, 2010, 11:31:05 AM
Well this made up my mind,There is no way I will ever download anything that uses DRM.  Sounds like not only does it make the file you downloaded imposible to use but it messes up your computer.  I am going to stick to buying DvDs and CDs and coping them to me hard drive.
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Post by: MontyServo on April 17, 2010, 11:40:41 AM
I was just watching the new episode of Doctor Who from tonight online live streaming via a certain website that streams such things as live tv from other countries.

I was looking for the season premiere of Britain's Got Talent, but that's not on until later.

Anyway, this was the first episode of Dr Who I have ever seen.  I only saw the last 20 minutes or so, but I must say, It was pretty good.  It was funny and definitely kept my interest.  I'm probably not going to try and stream the new episodes as they air in the UK, but I'll check it out when they air on BBC America.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 17, 2010, 11:57:18 AM
I just hope the Blu Ray comes out this fall and not next spring.  Still I filled my Netflix Q with classic Doctor Who discs,They are finally releasing the episodes that I lost my VHS copies of in the move nine years ago on DvD,so I have enough Who to tide me over for a while
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Post by: Courtney on April 17, 2010, 01:17:50 PM
Just reminding anyone who hasn't caught it online yet - it premieres on BBC America tonight at 8CT. There's a special doc on before that. and a specials marathon before that (Waters of Mars is on as we speak).
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 17, 2010, 03:54:19 PM
Surprisingly, YouTube has failed me so far in terms of the new episode.  Both of the other ones were uploaded by now.  I don't really know how to torrent (plus it feels incredibly hazardous to me).  And I sure as shit don't feel safe going to those "Watch the whole episode - just fill out this suspicious-looking survey!" sites.  Hmm...I'll continue to wait, I guess.  In the meantime, I'll watch the official US premier of "The Eleventh Hour" with my Not-We brother.
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Post by: dangfish on April 17, 2010, 09:02:06 PM
Just watched the premiere of New guy.  I don't know.  Part of the appeal of the whole regeneration thing is that each guy plays the character differently.  This new guy seems to be playing it exactly like David Tennant.  But it's early days yet....I'll give him a few episodes to show me something.  On the plus side, I liked how they introduced the new companion and the whole storyline going on there. 
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Post by: ScottotD on April 17, 2010, 11:12:58 PM
Just watched episode 2, laughed, cried, perved on Amy... liking this a lot.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 18, 2010, 01:06:47 AM
Just watched Victory of the Daleks.  And re-watched The Eleventh Hour with my brother (which he enjoyed a great deal).

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Post by: ScottotD on April 18, 2010, 08:34:42 AM
Ep 3 was okay, not Russel T. levels of weak but pretty forgettable.  The new Daleks look pretty art-deco to me.
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Post by: Courtney on April 19, 2010, 12:33:49 PM
Putting Daleks in early-to-mid 20th century situations just really isn't as awesome as DW writers seem to think.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 19, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
I liked it the last time they did it,but I know I am in the minority there.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 19, 2010, 04:25:41 PM
I hear that it was Kramer's favorite episode of anything ever ;)
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Post by: lassieface on April 19, 2010, 06:28:50 PM
Just watched the first episode...so far it's great! Matt Smith was a good choice.
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Post by: Tripe on April 19, 2010, 07:44:40 PM
Putting Daleks in early-to-mid 20th century situations Dr Who all the time just really isn't as awesome as DW writers seem to think.
To cut to the heart of the matter.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 19, 2010, 08:11:10 PM
I don't see how having them show up once a year is crossing the line.  I mean they are the number one villains and the reason the show got more then one season.  Also it is fun seeing them.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 19, 2010, 10:11:07 PM
Putting Daleks in early-to-mid 20th century situations Dr Who all the time just really isn't as awesome as DW writers seem to think.
To cut to the heart of the matter.

I think it just seems like they are bringing up the same enemies too often, back when they did 4 to 8 half hours dedicated to one story they spread them out time wise (2 months of shows basically the same as one week today) but if you were to condense all those stories down to 1 hour episodes the cybermen and daleks would probably come up just as often.

Went with iTunes for the HD season pass, much easier to download at work and take home, and I can stick it the SD version on my iPod although I don't use it for video very often. 
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 20, 2010, 04:46:17 AM
Yeah I mean the latest Dalek story(Have not seen it yet)was the first one in two years and the one before that was the first one in a year and a half.  It may seem like a lot compared to the late 70s and 80s,but it is on par with the 60s and early 70s.
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Post by: Tripe on April 20, 2010, 04:55:59 AM
Putting Daleks in early-to-mid 20th century situations Dr Who all the time just really isn't as awesome as DW writers seem to think.
To cut to the heart of the matter.

I think it just seems like they are bringing up the same enemies too often, back when they did 4 to 8 half hours dedicated to one story they spread them out time wise (2 months of shows basically the same as one week today) but if you were to condense all those stories down to 1 hour episodes the cybermen and daleks would probably come up just as often.
That very well may be true but they weren't condensed down, therefore there didn't seem to be overkill.

I mean, I like Daleks, just not all that much.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 20, 2010, 05:05:41 AM
Well let me put it this way.  Between 63 and 67 you had The Daleks,The Daleks Invasion of earth,The Chase,Mission to the Unknown,The Daleks Masterplan(12 whole episodes of that),The Power of the Daleks,and the Evil of the Daleks.  Between 72 and 75 there was Day of the Daleks,Planet of the Dalek,Death to the Daleks,and Genesis of the Daleks.  Besides the period where Terry Nation was trying to sell The Daleks to US shows like Lost in Space and Star Trek and the late 70s and 80s when there was a run of script editors who didn't like the Daleks there was never more then a year between Dalek stories.  What is more those Daleks stories took up between a month and a half to three months.  It's only a matter of time before we get a producer who doesn't like Daleks all that much but until then it is not really overload compared to what the show used to do.
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Post by: Tripe on April 20, 2010, 05:10:52 AM
Oddly enough, I am aware of the history of the show, however as I just said:

That very well may be true but they weren't condensed down, therefore there didn't seem to be overkill.

You just reiterated the same point Monty did, but in more long winded detail. But hey, let's follw suit on this a moment.

Preceding The Dalek Master Plan we had four episodes of The Myth Makers, before that the one shot of Mission to the Unknown before that four Episodes of Galaxy 4. Following TDMP we have four episodes of The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve, four episodes of The Ark, four episodes of The Celestial Toymaker four episodes of The Gunfighters, four of The Savages and finally four episodes of The War Machines.

So while TDMP is indeed very long and with MTTU makes for 13 episodes featuring the little homicidal Dustbins, it is rather balanced out by stories not featuring the Daleks and because these were broadcast in multiple episodes it doesn't seem as long. Also TDMP is a fairly early story and therefore has the benefit of presenting in detail a antagonist that hasn't appeared over and over and over again.

And the fact that the Daleks show up a lot isn't a counter to my initial point which again is this:
Putting Daleks in early-to-mid 20th century situations Dr Who all the time just really isn't as awesome as DW writers seem to think.
To cut to the heart of the matter.

Did I say anywhere that the overuse of the Daleks is peculiar only to the new series? It's more obvious, as Monty pointed out, due to the style of the new series but it's still a sign of laziness on the behalf of the shows writers.

Again, like I said

I mean, I like Daleks, just not all that much.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 20, 2010, 08:19:44 AM
Ok I get what you are saying now.  Sorry.
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Post by: mrbasehart on April 20, 2010, 09:00:02 AM
Quick question:  Have the Daleks ever been a credible threat? And I don't mean that as a story question, rather than an audience one.  Is anyone ever able to suspend their disbelief that these guys can take the Doctor?

I've only seen the 2 movies and maybe a handful of scenes from the TV show, so maybe it's just the poor selection, but I can't take them seriously at all.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 20, 2010, 10:13:37 AM
Quick question:  Have the Daleks ever been a credible threat? And I don't mean that as a story question, rather than an audience one.  Is anyone ever able to suspend their disbelief that these guys can take the Doctor?
Well, on some level...has any of the "baddies" been credible?

Only villain I've ever thought was really credible as a threat to the Doctor was The Master back in the Tom Baker era.  But I'd have to go back and watch those again now, was a teenager when I watched those...
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Post by: Tripe on April 20, 2010, 10:16:17 AM
Yay, I loved Ainley too.

(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/a/amaster2.jpg)
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 20, 2010, 10:20:00 AM
Actually, I think he might be talking about Peter Pratt and Geoffrey Beevers - Ainley only appeared as the Master once during Baker's era (then again, Pratt/Beevers only appeared twice).
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Post by: Tripe on April 20, 2010, 10:22:33 AM
You are correct. I went with Ainley since I imagine he sticks in the memory better that "that pile of singed/rotting flesh thing" ;)

But he could mean that. :)
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 20, 2010, 10:45:13 AM
You are correct. I went with Ainley since I imagine he sticks in the memory better that "that pile of singed/rotting flesh thing" ;)

But he could mean that. :)

 Both Pratt (in his decaying and then crispy forms) and then Ainley at the end of Baker's run was what I was referring to.   Ainley was pretty good during Peter Davison's run but I always thought Davison was kind of a "weak" doctor so it didn't take as much for Ainley to seem like a more credible threat.
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Post by: Quicksilver on April 21, 2010, 07:05:37 PM
I feel as though ep3 is merely a plot devise for the second part of the beast below. It just plain makes so little sense that it makes sense.

My theory and if you haven't seen 1-3 don't read this is this.
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I dont agree with the rose idea with amy, first, amy is far hotter, more intelligent and is damn near proving to be almost as smart as the doctor, which is kind of a first with companions on the new series. I'm thinking they stay away from romance on purpose with her.

The next episode looks interesting, I always thought the angels were dam near the most frightening thing ever on dr who and I hope they dont ruin it for me. Could be a big win or a huge fail.
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Post by: Quicksilver on April 23, 2010, 09:31:06 PM
true but I'm hoping he doesn't fall for it. I would just hope they would stop this bs with him falling in love
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 24, 2010, 06:36:00 AM
true but I'm hoping he doesn't fall for it. I would just hope they would stop this bs with him falling in love

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Thank you.  We don't need these stupid soap subplots.  I mean does anyone think it would ever work out,The Doctor is about 1000 years older then anyone he travels with.  What is wrong with just being friends who get along like in the old show?  In real life every man and woman who become friends don't end up in love,why does it always work out that way on TV?
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Post by: ScottotD on April 24, 2010, 06:57:46 AM
true but I'm hoping he doesn't fall for it. I would just hope they would stop this bs with him falling in love

You mean the one time it's happened in the last 5 years?
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 24, 2010, 12:53:53 PM
It's also why she had to come back and got a reward for coming back even though she knew her coming back would destroy the universe.  Rose was RTD's marry sue and that is why she was the WORST. COMPANION. EVER.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 24, 2010, 02:10:00 PM
Rose just seems like the most selfish companion in the history of the show.  I mean she didn't really care who she hurt as long as she got what she wanted and then the show treated her like she was so great and a smart person.  It just rubbed me the wrong way.  I mean could they had least have The Doctor tell her off once in a while and the whole duplicate tenth doctor thing just made me sick and spoiled an otherwise good story.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 24, 2010, 05:29:18 PM
Danna was my favorite.  I think because she was funny and she is the only one so for that was just a friend.  Her fate made me sad :'(

Still to each his own.
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Post by: dangfish on April 24, 2010, 07:48:59 PM
Worst companion ever was Adric.  He was a complete idiot and a lousy actor to boot. 
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Post by: Tripe on April 24, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Worse than

(http://www.enworld.org/tardis/pics/companions/mel.jpg)

?

I mean granted, as bad as, but worse than, really?
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 25, 2010, 12:50:34 AM
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on April 25, 2010, 06:38:30 PM
I'd take Mel over the shrieking, bossy harridan. 

River's looking to vie with her for least favorite.

Awww, I like Donna.

Then again, I'm the guy who likes Tegan and prefers Romana I to Romana II, so my judgment of companion quality may not be the same as that of other people.
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Post by: Ortega on April 25, 2010, 07:08:31 PM
I'll admit, i had never watched any Doctor Who episode until seeing the new series.  But i'd like to think i'm making up for lost time, so i'm starting to work my way through the old series, starting with the First Doctor and working my way through. 

Hartnell's Doctor is a bit too menacing to like, and Troughton's Doctor is a bit too .....goofy?

But i really like Pertwee's Doctor.  The swagger, the over-confidence, the short temper.  And he can pull off a cape, which few can.  And a few episodes in, and i also kind like Lethbridge-Stewart.
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Post by: starfighter on April 25, 2010, 09:46:48 PM
  Time to check your local public tv stations.  I was watching Doctor Who Saturday night on Iowa public tv (currently running the Donna Noble series) and was informed that David Tennant's Hamlet will be on next week.  I was hoping his RSC production might show up over here.  The listing called it a "contemporary re-telling" which I suppose means they are just wearing modern clothes?  Been a while since I've seen any Shakespeare so I might give it a shot.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on April 26, 2010, 12:06:25 AM
Episode 2 now on iTunes, I liked it a lot.     
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Post by: Doctor Who? on April 26, 2010, 03:03:08 PM
I'll admit, i had never watched any Doctor Who episode until seeing the new series.  But i'd like to think i'm making up for lost time, so i'm starting to work my way through the old series, starting with the First Doctor and working my way through. 

Hartnell's Doctor is a bit too menacing to like, and Troughton's Doctor is a bit too .....goofy?

But i really like Pertwee's Doctor.  The swagger, the over-confidence, the short temper.  And he can pull off a cape, which few can.  And a few episodes in, and i also kind like Lethbridge-Stewart.

I've actually never seen a Hartnell story, and only a couple of Troughton ones.

Hartnell is very under rated,he is the rock on which the show sits.  He has a really good character arc,and it is great to watch.  If you want to try some good Hartnell stories try these.

An Unearthly Child
The Daleks
Inside the Spaceship
The Aztecs
The Dalek's Invasion of Earth
The Rescue
The Time Meddler

It's such a shame so many of Troughton and Hartnell's stories are lost.
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Post by: Courtney on May 02, 2010, 06:04:39 PM
I know I'm alone in these here parts, but I like River. I'm intrigued by what's to come.

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Post by: Tripe on May 02, 2010, 06:13:15 PM
I know I'm alone in these here parts, but I like River.

(http://www.themindrobber.co.uk/doctor-who-season-3/the-face-of-boe.jpg)
You
Are
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 02, 2010, 11:12:52 PM
She lost me with the bullshit in the Tardis in that first ep.

I've actually come to enjoy that scene.  A bit of a turnaround in typical companion dynamics.  Romana I turned up to 11.

If it makes you feel any better, Imrahil, that wasn't in the original script.  The beach sequence was originally going to be longer, but for some reason (weather, I believe), they weren't able to film that part, and had to add more dialogue to the TARDIS sequence.  So you can just regard it as an ignorable throwaway gag that was just inserted for filler.

All in all I loved this two-parter.  I'm more on board with the series than I ever have been.


But liking episodes that the majority of viewers liked is boring, so I'll balance this post out with a controversial opinion:

I think The Time Warrior was a dull, bafflingly overrated glob of mediocrity that ranks among the weakest stories that Robert Holmes ever wrote.  Oh, it's not TERRIBLE per se (it's no Time and the Rani), but it's not GOOD, either.  (The same applies to EVERY Sontaran story, actually).  The only thing of note that happens in it is the introduction of Sarah Jane.

Make of my opinion what you will.  Given the reputation of that story (I've yet to encounter someone who dislikes it), it probably gives everyone here free reign to ignore everything I say.
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Post by: Ortega on May 02, 2010, 11:36:44 PM
She lost me with the bullshit in the Tardis in that first ep.

I've actually come to enjoy that scene.  A bit of a turnaround in typical companion dynamics.  Romana I turned up to 11.


I have a  theory that River is Romana....

Nothing to base it on, but just a feeling.........
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 02, 2010, 11:58:52 PM
She lost me with the bullshit in the Tardis in that first ep.

I've actually come to enjoy that scene.  A bit of a turnaround in typical companion dynamics.  Romana I turned up to 11.


I have a  theory that River is Romana....

Nothing to base it on, but just a feeling.........

No, no, you're doing it wrong.  You're supposed to guess that she's the Rani.  That's how it works over at GB. ;)
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Post by: ScottotD on May 03, 2010, 04:28:55 AM
Just watched part 2, loved the ending!  ;D
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 05:26:40 AM
She lost me with the bullshit in the Tardis in that first ep.

I've actually come to enjoy that scene.  A bit of a turnaround in typical companion dynamics.  Romana I turned up to 11.


I have a  theory that River is Romana....

Nothing to base it on, but just a feeling.........

No, no, you're doing it wrong.  You're supposed to guess that she's the Rani.  That's how it works over at GB. ;)

Are you on GB too?
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 08:11:51 AM
I didn't necessarily mind with Romana because she's a Time Lord.  What the hell is River? Nothing, that's what.

 :clap:

Same here.  now i have only seen river in the two parter with Tenant,but I didn't really take to here in that and I really don't want to see here marry The Doctor.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 03, 2010, 11:29:06 AM
She lost me with the bullshit in the Tardis in that first ep.

I've actually come to enjoy that scene.  A bit of a turnaround in typical companion dynamics.  Romana I turned up to 11.


I have a  theory that River is Romana....

Nothing to base it on, but just a feeling.........

No, no, you're doing it wrong.  You're supposed to guess that she's the Rani.  That's how it works over at GB. ;)

Are you on GB too?

Mmm-hmm.  Same screenname, even.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 03, 2010, 11:40:24 AM
I didn't necessarily mind with Romana because she's a Time Lord.  What the hell is River? Nothing, that's what.

 :clap:

Same here.  now i have only seen river in the two parter with Tenant,but I didn't really take to here in that and I really don't want to see here marry The Doctor.

Well, she might not.  Moffat seemed to be a bit coy about this in the Confidential.

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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 12:51:46 PM
She lost me with the bullshit in the Tardis in that first ep.

I've actually come to enjoy that scene.  A bit of a turnaround in typical companion dynamics.  Romana I turned up to 11.


I have a  theory that River is Romana....

Nothing to base it on, but just a feeling.........

No, no, you're doing it wrong.  You're supposed to guess that she's the Rani.  That's how it works over at GB. ;)

Are you on GB too?

Mmm-hmm.  Same screenname, even.

I'm on there too but with another screen name.  I can't wait for the Blu Ray of series 31,it sounds like I am either going to really like it or it will make me quit the show for good.
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Post by: Chaos on May 03, 2010, 03:06:56 PM
Am I the only one who finds this season a stinking pile of wolverine feces?

Seriously, what the hell happened to the Moffatt who brought us Blink? That 2 weeks of garbage I just finished watching? That was NOT Blink. Nor anything like it. Not by a long shot.

I just can't relate to these people at all anymore. It almost feels like Moffatt has become overwhelmed when he was actually asked to be in charge of everything - *just* writing a script, with other peoples' characters, he can do no problem. But ask him to take the reins, and he goes from zero to batshit insane in one swell foop.

I don't even know if I'll make it through the rest of the season, at this rate.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 03, 2010, 05:33:17 PM
Quote
Am I the only one who finds this season a stinking pile of wolverine feces?

No.  There are a couple of others over at GB - I know that much.  I'll say that it's no Series 1, but I enjoy it quite a bit.

I just can't relate to these people at all anymore. It almost feels like Moffatt has become overwhelmed when he was actually asked to be in charge of everything - *just* writing a script, with other peoples' characters, he can do no problem. But ask him to take the reins, and he goes from zero to batshit insane in one swell foop.

Unlikely.  If he were younger and had never produced a show before, this would work, but this isn't the first show he's been in charge of running.  It isn't even the second.  He knows exactly what he wants.  If anything, he may be trying to do too much, too quickly in these stories and not letting them breathe.  Not so much "overwhelmed" as "overeager."  It's not a sentiment I share, but it's one I could conceivably see justified by a decent argument.

(Three years of high school debate has taught me how to effectively debate both sides of an argument).

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Keep in mind, Moffat also penned "Silence in the Library," which was pure shit.

And I actually liked that story quite a lot.  Then again, I'm the guy who just publicly proclaimed my distaste for The Time Warrior, so what do I know?
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
I thought Silence in the Library had some great parts that didn't work as well as they should have,I liked it for the most part.  I didn't like the very end the way River Song was saved felt like it was lifted right out of Star Trek Voyager,I hate it in Sci-Fi shows when they kill someone off only to undo it ten minutes later.  I think it only ever worked with Spock and it has been overused since,it kind of takes away the sense of danger when you know that anyone who dies is going to be alive again by the end credits.

Oh and The Time Warrior is a classic :P
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 03, 2010, 05:56:10 PM
Hmm.  I don't know - maybe I'll try watching it again sometime.  I didn't like The Caves of Androzani the first time I saw it, either.  Still, I was very much unprepared for Caves when I saw it (it was my first 80s story, and I was a bit put off by the rather bright outfits in such a dark story, thus distracting me from the intricate plot), while I really wasn't any more or less impressed by The Time Warrior than I have been by ANY Sontaran story.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 06:15:22 PM
Hmm.  I don't know - maybe I'll try watching it again sometime.  I didn't like The Caves of Androzani the first time I saw it, either.  Still, I was very much unprepared for Caves when I saw it (it was my first 80s story, and I was a bit put off by the rather bright outfits in such a dark story, thus distracting me from the intricate plot), while I really wasn't any more or less impressed by The Time Warrior than I have been by ANY Sontaran story.

Yeah JNT should never have been let anywhere near the costumes.  They should have let him pick the cast and promote the show(That is what he was great at)and left everything else to someone else.  I have to wonder if JNT wouldn't get bashed so often if he had had a partner who was good at all the other stuff and he had been a Co-producer who has been a allowed to stick to what he was good at.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on May 03, 2010, 07:46:36 PM
I didn't necessarily mind with Romana because she's a Time Lord.  What the hell is River? Nothing, that's what.

 :clap:

Same here.  now i have only seen river in the two parter with Tenant,but I didn't really take to here in that and I really don't want to see here marry The Doctor.

I think the back and forth with Amy put that to rest. It's way too obvious that she'll be his wife for her to actually be his wife.

I love this season. Aside from Victory of the Daleks, which felt like Moffatt saying "the BBC insists upon another fecking Dalek story, let's just get it out of the way at the beginning so I have time for the good shit later," it's just been fun. Like Season 2 and most of Season 3. Things with RTD got a bit hamfisted. This is really just enjoyable.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 07:57:04 PM
I didn't necessarily mind with Romana because she's a Time Lord.  What the hell is River? Nothing, that's what.

 :clap:

Same here.  now i have only seen river in the two parter with Tenant,but I didn't really take to here in that and I really don't want to see here marry The Doctor.

I think the back and forth with Amy put that to rest. It's way too obvious that she'll be his wife for her to actually be his wife.

I love this season. Aside from Victory of the Daleks, which felt like Moffatt saying "the BBC insists upon another fecking Dalek story, let's just get it out of the way at the beginning so I have time for the good shit later," it's just been fun. Like Season 2 and most of Season 3. Things with RTD got a bit hamfisted. This is really just enjoyable.

If it is like season 2 and 3 I am out,those seasons pretty much killed Doctor Who for me.  After those two seasons it took more about a year and a half before I would even give season 4 a try.  I lost interest in the show to the extent that I didn't bother even signing on to my OG forum account any more.  I have only just gotten back into fandom and now I am getting more of what drove me away.  I don't watch Doctor Who to see a cheap soap,I hate love stories and ones that involve The Doctor I just find stupid and I am unable to believe.  if you like it fine,but as for me I think from now on I am just going to stick to the classic series that is not a soap pretending to be Sc-fi.  I mean we are now in a plot thread that is about which of two woman The Doctor is going to marry,this is the sort of thing that killed The Office for me and now it has killed Doctor Who.  i hate modern tv,it is only made for 13 year old girls and middle aged woman. Unless you want the main thrust of the show you are watching to be a bad soap plot line there is nothing on TV for you any more.  I am just going to stick with my DvDs,there are plenty of them that I don't own.  I am just going to pretend that this whole "new series" load of rubbish never happened.  Hopefully it will be off the air in  five years and in 30 year tastes will have changed and we can have Doctor Who bad and not just a bad Twilight/Time traveler's wife rip off on our screens.
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Post by: Courtney on May 03, 2010, 08:13:49 PM
I mean we are now in a plot thread that is about which of two woman The Doctor is going to marry

Which episode are you watching?
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
I have not seen that yet but all that is being talked about on the forums is if The Doctor is going to marry Amy or River,it doesn't get any more soap then that.   Now I have read that they are giving "The Doctor" and Amy a sex scene,this is not Doctor Who.  I don't like it so instead of complain I am just not going to watch it.  I was fine when all I had was 26 years of the good show taped off of PBS,and I will be fine with my DvDs.  I don't need this soap that is trying to pass it's self off as Doctor Who.  Why does everything need to be about sex these days any way?  It's just so stupid.  In real life every person that hangs out with another person doesn't end up in  bed together,why does it only work that way on Tv now?  The trouble is in the past Doctor Who was written by comedy and adventure story writers,now it is being written by drama writers and all that they are interested in is subplots that keep the show on earth and in the bedroom because in drama that is where you have to keep it to keep the show on budget. It's not their fault it's just the way they have all been trained to write in the past 15 or 20 years that just means no matter how good they are they really are not the right people to write for Doctor Who.  The thing I always liked about Doctor Who was that the show could go any where,not I think we have only left earth 4 or 5 times in the past 6 years.  How come the Hartnell years were the budget was about 1/100th of what the show has now and didn't have CGI were always leaving earth but this series never does?  In short I am just sick of earth and I am sick of the soap elements so I am just not going to bother,the same as I did when BSG turned into a soap. I am not going to bother anyone who is still a fan but I am just not going to waist my time or Netflix space on it any more.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on May 03, 2010, 08:28:57 PM
yeah, i think The Doctor just shot down Amy as much as a chick could be shot down, he wouldn't have any of it. I don't think Doctor Who is turning into a soap at all, plus Amy is ten times more awesome and a thousand times less annoying than Rose.  A Time Lord could do worse....
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on May 03, 2010, 08:31:58 PM
I have not seen that yet but all that is being talked about on the forums is if The Doctor is going to marry Amy or River,it doesn't get any more soap then that.   Now I have read that they are giving "The Doctor" and Amy a sex scene,this is not Doctor Who.  I don't like it so instead of complain I am just not going to watch it.  I was fine when all I had was 26 years of the good show taped off of PBS,and I will be fine with my DvDs.  I don't need this soap that is trying to pass it's self off as Doctor Who.  Why does everything need to be about sex these days any way?  It's just so stupid.  In real life every person that hangs out with another person doesn't end up in  bed together,why does it only work that way on Tv now?  The trouble is in the past Doctor Who was written by comedy and adventure story writers,now it is being written by drama writers and all that are interested in is subplots that keep the show on earth and in the bedroom because in drama that is where you have to keep it to keep the show on budget.  The thing I always liked about Doctor Who was that the show could go any where,not I think we have only left earth 4 or 5 times in the past 6 years.  How come the Hartnell years were the budget was about 1/100th of what the show has now and didn't have CGI were always leaving earth but this series never does?  In short I am just sick of earth and I am sick of the soap elements so I am just not going to bother,the same as I did when BSG turned into a soap. I am not going to bother anyone who is still a fan but I am just not going to waist my time or Netflix space on it any more.

So, are you going to post 10 more times about how you're boycotting the show now?  One interpersonal relationship side story in the series, and now Doctor Who turns into the Eastenders?
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 08:35:17 PM
I have not seen that yet but all that is being talked about on the forums is if The Doctor is going to marry Amy or River,it doesn't get any more soap then that.   Now I have read that they are giving "The Doctor" and Amy a sex scene,this is not Doctor Who.  I don't like it so instead of complain I am just not going to watch it.  I was fine when all I had was 26 years of the good show taped off of PBS,and I will be fine with my DvDs.  I don't need this soap that is trying to pass it's self off as Doctor Who.  Why does everything need to be about sex these days any way?  It's just so stupid.  In real life every person that hangs out with another person doesn't end up in  bed together,why does it only work that way on Tv now?  The trouble is in the past Doctor Who was written by comedy and adventure story writers,now it is being written by drama writers and all that are interested in is subplots that keep the show on earth and in the bedroom because in drama that is where you have to keep it to keep the show on budget.  The thing I always liked about Doctor Who was that the show could go any where,not I think we have only left earth 4 or 5 times in the past 6 years.  How come the Hartnell years were the budget was about 1/100th of what the show has now and didn't have CGI were always leaving earth but this series never does?  In short I am just sick of earth and I am sick of the soap elements so I am just not going to bother,the same as I did when BSG turned into a soap. I am not going to bother anyone who is still a fan but I am just not going to waist my time or Netflix space on it any more.

So, are you going to post 10 more times about how you're boycotting the show now?  One interpersonal relationship side story in the series, and now Doctor Who turns into the Eastenders?

The great thing for you is that if I answer that you get to say that i went back on what i said.  No i am not talking any more about the new show.  I will start a thread devoted to the old show and that is where I will talk about Doctor Who.  I will never mention "doctor who the new series" again.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on May 03, 2010, 08:43:03 PM
Just calm down.  However, i will say, in my opinion, that this season, has been far less stupid as some of RTD.  I'd say the best thing for you to do is wait until the new season is over, and then decide if Moffat dropped the ball or not.....
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 03, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
First of all, the Doctor shot Amy down.  Second, out of the five episodes that have aired so far, only two of them were set on Earth - one of which was a historical and partially took place in Earth orbit rather than the planet itself!  It even had a space battle in it!

So as of now, nearly halfway through the season, there has been a grand total of ONE episode set entirely on present-day Earth.  Coming up, we have another pseudo-historical, followed by our second Earthbound story.  At some point during this season, we're going to see Silurians and Sea Devils (which is a different type of terrestrial story entirely).  We haven't actually seen a single member of Amy's family, and have barely even glimpsed her hometown.  I know people who are actually COMPLAINING about this.  I think this is actually shaping up to be the most traditional series since the show was renewed.

As for the forums speculating on whether the Doctor and River getting married or not - GB is like a sewing circle when it comes to these things, pretty much.  These sorts of things come up nearly as frequently as "X is the Rani" type theories.  With Amy, though, the complaints seem to be less romance-focused and more "Won't someone PLEASE think of the children!?"  Personally, the notion doesn't bother me - he's had a granddaughter, so we can assume he's not really asexual.  Hell, Doctor/Romana is pretty much in my private canon.  But even given this, I'm glad this series isn't a soap opera.  Amy doesn't even desire a relationship with the Doctor - just a shag, which the Doctor quite rightly turns down.  It's an impulsive act, so I doubt very much that this will even last the series, much less carry over into next.  River may end up KILLING him rather than marrying him.  And if a romance is happening between them, it certainly hasn't happened yet for the Doctor - Matt sure didn't act his lines like he was in love with her.  There are a few things here and there (this is, after all, the guy who wrote Coupling), but this season certainly isn't a love story.  Those elements that exist are more in the background than in the foreground.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 10:03:07 PM
Ok I will give it a shot when it comes to Blu Ray.  I used to think there may have been a good way to do a Doctor in love story but I have to say RTD really soured me on the whole idea and now I never want to see it come up again.  I really hope The Sea Devils get done right this time,unlike warriors of the deep.

Hey this thread is mainly about the new show,if anyone wants to talk about the classic show feel free to join me in the thread I started.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 03, 2010, 10:08:03 PM
Hey, always helps to see it first.  I'm not saying it's exactly Season 14 or anything, but that's just my general impression.  If you don't like it, you can blame me if you want.  Just don't expect a refund 'cuz I'm poor as shit.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 03, 2010, 10:17:12 PM
Oh don't worry I am sticking my own head in the noose.  Glad to know he shot her down,I thought it was a full blown sex scene with nudity.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 03, 2010, 11:04:17 PM
Ok I will give it a shot when it comes to Blu Ray.  I used to think there may have been a good way to do a Doctor in love story but I have to say RTD really soured me on the whole idea and now I never want to see it come up again.  I really hope The Sea Devils get done right this time,unlike warriors of the deep.

Actually, I don't know if the Sea Devils are going to be in it.  I think it's just the Silurians.  I'm not sure, actually.  I've tried not to look too far ahead in the episodes.  But yeah, Silurians for sure.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 03, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
Guess I'll have to ignore this thread until the season is over, since I'm getting it from itunes and have just gotten the Daleks episode, way too much info on here about the 2 episodes I haven't seen yet.

I didn't think the dalek ep was as bad as people said, not great, but not bad, 6.5 out of 10.   Only gripe I agree with sort of is the colors on the daleks, the evil scourge of the universe, now in fun rainbow colors.... 

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Post by: Ortega on May 03, 2010, 11:30:27 PM
  Only gripe I agree with sort of is the colors on the daleks, the evil scourge of the universe, now in fun rainbow colors.... 

"EXTERMINATE!!!    AND COLOR COORDINATE!!!"


sorry, couldn't resist.....
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: ScottotD on May 04, 2010, 02:41:27 AM
I mean we are now in a plot thread that is about which of two woman The Doctor is going to marry

Which episode are you watching?

He hasn't seen any of the season, facts just get in the way of ranting.


Amy doesn't even desire a relationship with the Doctor - just a shag, which the Doctor quite rightly turns down.

Agree to disagree.

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: dangfish on May 04, 2010, 03:38:56 AM
Guess I'll have to ignore this thread until the season is over, since I'm getting it from itunes and have just gotten the Daleks episode, way too much info on here about the 2 episodes I haven't seen yet.

I didn't think the dalek ep was as bad as people said, not great, but not bad, 6.5 out of 10.   Only gripe I agree with sort of is the colors on the daleks, the evil scourge of the universe, now in fun rainbow colors.... 



Same here.  I'm watching it on BBC america and I've only seen up to the Dalek episode.  I suppose I better steer clear of this thread as well. 
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Post by: Tripe on May 04, 2010, 04:16:16 AM
But yeah, Silurians for sure.
:highfive:
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on May 04, 2010, 06:24:44 AM
I have not seen that yet but all that is being talked about on the forums is if The Doctor is going to marry Amy or River,it doesn't get any more soap then that.   Now I have read that they are giving "The Doctor" and Amy a sex scene,this is not Doctor Who.  I don't like it so instead of complain I am just not going to watch it.  I was fine when all I had was 26 years of the good show taped off of PBS,and I will be fine with my DvDs.  I don't need this soap that is trying to pass it's self off as Doctor Who.  Why does everything need to be about sex these days any way?  It's just so stupid.  In real life every person that hangs out with another person doesn't end up in  bed together,why does it only work that way on Tv now?  The trouble is in the past Doctor Who was written by comedy and adventure story writers,now it is being written by drama writers and all that they are interested in is subplots that keep the show on earth and in the bedroom because in drama that is where you have to keep it to keep the show on budget. It's not their fault it's just the way they have all been trained to write in the past 15 or 20 years that just means no matter how good they are they really are not the right people to write for Doctor Who.  The thing I always liked about Doctor Who was that the show could go any where,not I think we have only left earth 4 or 5 times in the past 6 years.  How come the Hartnell years were the budget was about 1/100th of what the show has now and didn't have CGI were always leaving earth but this series never does?  In short I am just sick of earth and I am sick of the soap elements so I am just not going to bother,the same as I did when BSG turned into a soap. I am not going to bother anyone who is still a fan but I am just not going to waist my time or Netflix space on it any more.

That's the internet, man. Internet tween fangirls could watch the nightly news and think, "OH I BET THEIR GETTING MARRIED! HE ONLY MURDERD HER BECXUASE HE LUVED HER!"
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on May 09, 2010, 06:41:59 PM
This episode was a lot of fun. I tend to love the standalone monster-of-the-week episodes, and this was really enjoyable. I love that Eleven is much colder and less insistent upon saving the enemy than Ten was, which felt so forced so much of the time, particularly in Season 4.

I'm really intrigued by the crack in the wall runner. That could make for a pretty cool finale. I can't believe we're already at the halfway point.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Ortega on May 09, 2010, 07:49:41 PM
Anyone else catch this?:

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q80/paranoia2K/vlcsnap-2010-05-09-21h35m46s212.png)

Yeah, i loved this episode.  Eleven really shines here.  I loved the same scene where he get really excited at the fact that the "vampire" girls don't have a reflection: "You're like Houdini, only five slightly scary girls!" 

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Post by: Courtney on May 09, 2010, 08:33:23 PM
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 09, 2010, 09:07:46 PM
This episode was a lot of fun. I tend to love the standalone monster-of-the-week episodes, and this was really enjoyable. I love that Eleven is much colder and less insistent upon saving the enemy than Ten was, which felt so forced so much of the time, particularly in Season 4.

Yeah, him offering to save Davros at the end of Journey's End was a real eye-roller for me.  Dude, mercy, forgiveness, and second chances are great and all, but this man just tried to BLOW UP THE UNIVERSE.  This is the guy who thought that creating the Daleks was a good idea in the first place.  If he's left alive, he'll most certainly start up his whole "evil" schtick all over again, no matter how secure a location you leave him in.  You once blew up his home planet just to get rid of him.  I think he's had his fair share of second chances.


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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 09, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
Anyone else catch this?:

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q80/paranoia2K/vlcsnap-2010-05-09-21h35m46s212.png)

Yeah - I noticed that back when they showed that bit on Jonathan Ross.  If you look closely, the card even says "Dr. J. Smith, 76 Totter's Lane." :D
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Post by: ScottotD on May 10, 2010, 04:22:35 AM
I'd just like to say this:

Hominahominahominahomina.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/MrMorningstarr/tv-programmes/doctor-who/karen-gillan-drunk-1.jpg)



Great, now I'm going to miss my bus because I won't be able to stand up for a couple of minutes  :D

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Post by: Courtney on May 10, 2010, 01:23:47 PM
Yeah, him offering to save Davros at the end of Journey's End was a real eye-roller for me.  Dude, mercy, forgiveness, and second chances are great and all, but this man just tried to BLOW UP THE UNIVERSE.  This is the guy who thought that creating the Daleks was a good idea in the first place.  If he's left alive, he'll most certainly start up his whole "evil" schtick all over again, no matter how secure a location you leave him in.  You once blew up his home planet just to get rid of him.  I think he's had his fair share of second chances.

One of my favorites from ihasatardis:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/courtlynne/Clipboard01-18.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: bratpop on May 11, 2010, 12:58:10 AM
Moffat is way way overrated. The Empty Child was great. But both The Girl in the Fireplace and Blink had moments of unbearable stupidity. That's not enough to say he's a million billion zillion times better of a producer than RTD was. RTD had half a dozen original creatures in only his SECOND episode. Moffat has only given us bad CG and old villains so far. I doubt he can even live up to The Empty Child again. If he was such a great writer/producer he would have given us something better than the weeping angels instead of doing them again after three episodes. He's got a lot to live up to. Pressing reset buttons is easy. Rebooting a whole series is something else. I doubt Moffat could have taken on a job that big. Also, he has stupid hair.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 11, 2010, 01:46:50 PM
Moffat is way way overrated.

So is Dark Side of the Moon.  Doesn't stop it from being good.

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The Empty Child was great.

Agreed.

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But both The Girl in the Fireplace and Blink had moments of unbearable stupidity.

Do explain.  I can't think of anything that really jumps out at me, whereas I could probably list two or three such moments in "School Reunion," which was a story that I liked a great deal.  The Krillitane threat is insufficiently explained and explored, as is the whole "you could bring back the Time Lords" thing.  And I never really bought the explanation that the Doctor gave for leaving his companions behind ("you get old" doesn't cut it for me - maybe that'd work if they actually DID die of old age, but generally they stay for a few years at the most).  It's a testament to his other strengths as a writer (e.g. characterization), and to the strength of the cast, that I was able to enjoy that episode at all, much less like it as much as I did.

I would, further, be curious to see if the number of flaws in both those stories combined add up to the number of examples of wall-banging stupidity I could find in any given ten-minute stretch of "The Stolen Earth/Journey's End."  I mean, hell, I love the hell out of "Gridlock," but I could quite willingly point out and acknowledge that it has a shitload of flaws.

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That's not enough to say he's a million billion zillion times better of a producer than RTD was.

Agreed, I don't understand the sentiment either, although I don't know of anybody on this board who's actually saying that.

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RTD had half a dozen original creatures in only his SECOND episode. Moffat has only given us bad CG and old villains so far.

Moffat HAS introduced new creatures, both in the first and second episodes.  In fact, I'd say, once you factor out the creatures in "The End of the World" that only appeared once, and served no narrative purpose other than to look alien (not that I'm complaining, mind - the story called for lots of background aliens), we've gotten a pretty decent amount, considering the fact that the BBC has slashed the show's budget (which isn't Moffat's fault, and neither is the CGI).

Unless you're faulting him for not coming up with the Slitheen, which is odd, since the Slitheen are one of the least interesting aliens in the history of Doctor Who.  Frankly, none of the stories in the series so far have really even called for aliens to be present in them.

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I' doubt he can even live up to The Empty Child again.

It'd certainly be difficult.  I'd agree with you that that's still his best one.

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If he was such a great writer/producer he would have given us something better than the weeping angels instead of doing them again after three episodes.

I don't think that was so much of an issue of "running out of ideas" so much as the fact that he was really eager to expand on the idea.  I don't fault him for that any more than I fault Terry Nation for writing "The Dalek Invasion of Earth."

I mean, fuck, four episodes in and you want something BETTER than one of the best and most popular monsters of the new series?  Not just different, but BETTER?  Shit, if I had something better than the Weeping Angels, I'd save it for the finale.

Thus far, though, he hasn't come up with as many ideas in half a season as RTD did in four seasons.  This isn't a problem, really.  Not yet, anyway - particularly since Moffat seems to be operating under the constraints of a tighter (not "tighter" as in "better," but as in "more in the foreground") story arc.  If such an issue exists at the end of Series 6, we can talk.  I do think RTD is a "broader" writer, for what it's worth.  Next week's episode, however, looks interesting and unique.  Let's see what Mr. Nye has for us before saying there's nothing new in this series.

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He's got a lot to live up to. Pressing reset buttons is easy. Rebooting a whole series is something else. I doubt Moffat could have taken on a job that big.

RTD does deserve a lot of credit for doing what he did.  Whether or not Moffat could or couldn't do what he did is irrelevant.  That's not the job he's getting paid to do right now.

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Also, he has stupid hair.

Eh, I don't see anything particularly distinctive about his hair one way or another.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 11, 2010, 06:52:02 PM
Well, Moffat is a guy who believes fundamentally that the various Doctors are more similar than they are different, so he'll tend to pretty much emphasize that.

So far, from what I've seen, the differences from Tennant are fairly subtle.  I'd agree that they're similar.  Matt's Doctor seems quite a bit less "grounded" than his was - less "human," dwelling on the emotional side of things (I think that's why a lot of the more hardcore classic series fans like this series better - many of the ones who found New Who too mopey no longer have anything to point to in that department).  When it comes to things that he would say that Tennant wouldn't have - well, the "Say wheee!" thing from "The Beast Below."  I can't see Tennant delivering that line even in his goofiest moments.  Certainly not nearly as well, anyway.  That's the one line that sticks out at me as a "nobody else would say that" line.

His performance could very well evolve and change season by season, as Tennant's did (a fact for which even Lawrence Miles, of all people, is willing to give Tennant credit).  Were I the Moff, I'd write to his strengths - emphasize his "alienness."  Also, give Matt and Karen a few more scenes where they're just naturally playing off each other.  I've seen them in interviews and on Confidential - they are absolutely great together, even better than they are on-screen.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 11, 2010, 06:59:20 PM
Well, Moffat is a guy who believes fundamentally that the various Doctors are more similar than they are different, so he'll tend to pretty much emphasize that.


Yeah, I saw that in an interview. I don't really understand how someone who grew up on Classic Who can think that. 

I definitely like Smith's "alienness."  My favorite bit with him in the series so far (I still haven't finished the second Angels ep) was the glass of water on the floor in The Beast Below. 

"There's an escaped fish." ;D
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 14, 2010, 02:15:11 PM
Another trait that I think Eleven possesses that other Doctors didn't is that sometimes his own brain runs ahead of him.  One great line from "Flesh and Stone" that just about sums it up is this (spoilers for those stateside who don't use bittorrent):

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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 15, 2010, 06:31:32 PM
Just finished watching Episode 7.

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Post by: Ortega on May 15, 2010, 10:01:41 PM
Very good episode.

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I do feel like Smith is finding Eleven's voice, and he starting to grow into the role at bit more now.
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Post by: lassieface on May 16, 2010, 07:27:44 PM
I'm on the American schedule, so I just finished episode 5. I think Matt Smith is good, he just looks so much younger that it's kind of odd.
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Post by: ScottotD on May 17, 2010, 05:18:44 AM
Liking the new theme song more and more each episode, agree with everyone else about how great this episode was.  Up there with Human Nature/Family of Blood, Blink and The Girl in the Fireplace imo, if perhaps not quite as brilliant as them


" If we're gonna die let's die looking like a peruvian folk band "

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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 17, 2010, 05:29:40 AM
I am waiting for the DvD release on the 7th to see the show but I have seen the new theme on Youtube and I have to say I like it.  It reminds me of the Hartnell version and given that the Hartnell opening was what got me interested in the show in the first place that is a good thing.
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Post by: Chaos on May 17, 2010, 03:34:01 PM
If she purses her lips in that idiotic way one more time, I'm going to walk to England and strangle her with my belt. :P
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Post by: lassieface on May 17, 2010, 10:14:09 PM
If she purses her lips in that idiotic way one more time, I'm going to walk to England and strangle her with my belt. :P

...I love what she does.  Everything she does is magic.

It strange...I tried to hate her, but I couldn't.
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Post by: ScottotD on May 18, 2010, 04:25:15 AM
If she purses her lips in that idiotic way one more time, I'm going to walk to England and strangle her with my belt. :P

...I love what she does.  Everything she does is magic.

 :highfive:
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Post by: Courtney on May 18, 2010, 01:52:55 PM
I was out of town this weekend and haven't had a chance to watch yet and you guys are giving me the anticipation shakes and making me want to leave work early to watch.

UPDATE: That was great. And it did my heart good to see

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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 19, 2010, 08:03:21 PM
Yeah, him offering to save Davros at the end of Journey's End was a real eye-roller for me.  Dude, mercy, forgiveness, and second chances are great and all, but this man just tried to BLOW UP THE UNIVERSE.  This is the guy who thought that creating the Daleks was a good idea in the first place.  If he's left alive, he'll most certainly start up his whole "evil" schtick all over again, no matter how secure a location you leave him in.  You once blew up his home planet just to get rid of him.  I think he's had his fair share of second chances.

One of my favorites from ihasatardis:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/courtlynne/Clipboard01-18.jpg)

This is a good one, too:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/KeithMoonIsGod/Davros.jpg)
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 19, 2010, 08:37:41 PM
Yeah, him offering to save Davros at the end of Journey's End was a real eye-roller for me.  Dude, mercy, forgiveness, and second chances are great and all, but this man just tried to BLOW UP THE UNIVERSE.  This is the guy who thought that creating the Daleks was a good idea in the first place.  If he's left alive, he'll most certainly start up his whole "evil" schtick all over again, no matter how secure a location you leave him in.  You once blew up his home planet just to get rid of him.  I think he's had his fair share of second chances.

One of my favorites from ihasatardis:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/courtlynne/Clipboard01-18.jpg)

This is a good one, too:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/KeithMoonIsGod/Davros.jpg)

 :D :clap: :clap: :clap:

Yeah it's one thing for The Doctor not to go out of his way to kill someone like he did in the classic series,but RTD crossed a line and started having The Doctor go out of his way to save villains.  Just because a character doesn't kill doesn't mean that they have to try and help a villain live when their plans blow up in their face.  I mean if you help someone like Davros you are helping him kill more people.
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Post by: Courtney on May 20, 2010, 07:49:04 AM
Been rewatching S3 with my wife.  Gridlock wasn't nearly as stupid as I remembered (aside from the hymn), but holy SHIT is Daleks of Manhattan bad. 

SHHHHH. We don't speak of that here. Ugh. Awful.

I liked Gridlock. It was yet another one in which RTD basically screams "RELIGION IS FOR IDIOTS, THERE IS ONLY THE DOCTOR" but I like the story and DT was great. The end was pretty heartbreaking.

Another one I love that no one else seems to like? 42.
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Post by: Courtney on May 20, 2010, 08:25:31 AM
I think the general consensus is that it's too similar to Impossible Planet/Satan Pit (my favorite pair of episodes) but it's really only similar in that a) it takes place on a ship, and b) the doctor wears a space suit. That's basically it.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 22, 2010, 08:19:40 PM
Just saw "The Hungry Earth."

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Post by: bratpop on May 23, 2010, 10:05:53 PM
I think the general consensus is that it's too similar to Impossible Planet/Satan Pit (my favorite pair of episodes) but it's really only similar in that a) it takes place on a ship, and b) the doctor wears a space suit. That's basically it.
No, there's also possessed people and the ship/planet/base is about to be destroyed. Why it sucks is because it doesn't add ANYTHING.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 23, 2010, 10:33:48 PM
I think the general consensus is that it's too similar to Impossible Planet/Satan Pit (my favorite pair of episodes) but it's really only similar in that a) it takes place on a ship, and b) the doctor wears a space suit. That's basically it.
No, there's also possessed people and the ship/planet/base is about to be destroyed. Why it sucks is because it doesn't add ANYTHING.

Yes, but does it in any way deserve the "Daleks in Manhattan" style revulsion that it always seems to receive?  Not really.  I mean, why do people wail on this one while "The Idiot's Lantern" (which was meh), and "The Sontaran Strategem" (which I enjoyed about as much as any Sontaran story I've ever watched, which is to say, mildly) get a free pass?

I've gotta think that Chibnall's work on Torchwood (which I've never seen - quite thankfully, by the sound of it) is what singles it out as a target as opposed to all the other "generic" episodes ripe for the picking.  That and the whole Pip and Jane Baker thing.
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Post by: Courtney on May 25, 2010, 07:07:39 AM
I'll agree that Idiot's lantern was a bit meh, but I thought it was a fun era for them to visit (first time in the '50s?).

Plus we got a whole episode where the most annoying part of Billie Piper was removed. Her face.

BAZINGA!
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 25, 2010, 10:16:45 PM
Well, it looks like I won't be watching "Cold Blood" until after Saturday - I'll be up at the cabin in Grey Eagle, Minnesota, far from internet access of any kind.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 27, 2010, 01:05:15 PM
Hey want to read the worst review ever?  Then read one of the ones included in this links.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003AIKU7C/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0RCBCK3RY2C6H06K7C4S&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467198433&pf_rd_i=468294 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003AIKU7C/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0RCBCK3RY2C6H06K7C4S&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467198433&pf_rd_i=468294)

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DOCTOR WHO without David Tennant is DOCTOR NOTHING.

I saw Matt Smith as Doctor Who and I feel like the exploding head in SCANNERS.

Russel and Julie that was a very bad decision. Do anything you can to get back David.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 27, 2010, 01:14:35 PM
"Bringing back" a Doctor - ANY Doctor, no matter how good or popular - would kill the show forever.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 27, 2010, 01:23:01 PM
"Bringing back" a Doctor - ANY Doctor, no matter how good or popular - would kill the show forever.

The reminds me of the people who want Brosnan back as Bond.
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Post by: Courtney on May 27, 2010, 01:25:13 PM
Also, Julie and Russell kind of don't work there anymore.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 27, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
I think they cast Smith,and that is why they are mentioned.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on May 27, 2010, 02:39:00 PM
Also, Julie and Russell kind of don't work there anymore.

Thank the FSM.

What does that mean?
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Post by: Tripe on May 27, 2010, 02:52:23 PM
This

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/TripeHoundRedux/Forum%20Furniture/StainedGlassFSM1.jpg)
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Post by: Tripe on May 27, 2010, 02:54:36 PM
Indeed it is. :)
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Post by: Courtney on May 27, 2010, 07:10:57 PM
rAmen.
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Post by: lassieface on May 30, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
No new episode this week? Lame!
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Post by: goflyblind on May 30, 2010, 04:24:39 PM
uh... cold blood? ???
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on May 30, 2010, 04:29:57 PM
No new episode this week? Lame!

Yea, I thought I just missed the email from iTunes telling me to download the latest episode today but it turns out no new episode....

Just checked the schedules, looks like the UK had new episodes but BBC America is doing reruns this weekend, so now we will be 3 weeks behind here.  Aarrrgggg....
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on May 31, 2010, 05:56:03 PM
There was a Memorial Day weekend marathon of some sort.  As in, "Hey, remember the first half of the season you JUST watched?  Good times, huh?"


In "Cold Blood"-related news:

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Post by: Courtney on June 05, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
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Seriously.

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Post by: goflyblind on June 05, 2010, 03:45:39 PM
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:(
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Post by: Ortega on June 06, 2010, 12:10:20 AM
i concur with BBQ, hands down, an awesome episode.

I think the theme song has finally grown on me, as well as Matt Smith. 
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on June 07, 2010, 09:47:06 AM
Posting this because I've found more than one source online (http://scifiwire.com/2010/06/lady-gaga-may-appear-in-d.php) - but they may just really be quoting each other after quoting someone who is talking out of their buts....

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Lady Gaga is reportedly being lined up to star in Doctor Who.

According to the Daily Star, the BBC wants to sign up the singer, 24, to play a villain in the series.

Scriptwriter Gareth Roberts said: "The script might end up on screen one day with Lady GaGa, who will have fallen on hard times."

A source added: "She is no stranger to dressing up and would be more than a match for the Doctor. It would be a great coup to get her."

Lady GaGa recently ordered ghostbusters to get rid of 'evil spirits' on tour.
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Post by: Courtney on June 07, 2010, 12:23:03 PM
Sounds like he's joking and they ran with it. That's pretty usual. Though, full disclosure, I'd be into it.

(http://www.poptranshumanism.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/gaga.jpg)

How could I not?
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Post by: Tripe on June 07, 2010, 12:41:54 PM
You know, every time I see her, I think "that's what Scar-Jo will look like at 40".


Not the same wardrobe though.
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Post by: lassieface on June 07, 2010, 01:55:02 PM
This has to be a joke.
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Post by: ScottotD on June 10, 2010, 06:38:23 AM
Bit behind, just watched Hungry Earth.  Thought it was a really fun, well written, spooky ep which reminded me of a lot of Tom Baker-y episodes which had a lot of 'Planet of the Apes'-ish touches (although the short-shorts and cowboy boots where easily the highlight)
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Post by: Courtney on June 13, 2010, 09:29:02 AM
Just watched yesterday's, and I am ready to say that this has been the single most consistent season yet. Only one misstep (Victory of the Daleks) and everything else has ranged from good to outstanding. Bring on the Pandorica.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on June 14, 2010, 01:46:46 PM
I just got season five volume one in the mail today,I will let you know what I thought of the episode so far in detail latter.  Let me just say for now that if the rest of the season is as good as the first three episodes this will be one of the best season ever.  Glad to see my fears were unfounded.  Matt Smith is now my third favorite doctor.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on June 14, 2010, 05:26:47 PM
I rank Troughton and Colin Baker above him.
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Post by: Tripe on June 15, 2010, 11:19:55 AM
Odd to have this interview now but for what it's worth: Eccleston reveals why he quit 'Doctor Who' (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/news-extra/article/14123/page-2/eccleston-reveals-why-he-quit-doctor-who.html)

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I didn't enjoy the environment and the culture that we, the cast and crew, had to work in. I wasn't comfortable. I thought, 'If I stay in this job, I'm going to have to blind myself to certain things that I thought were wrong.'

Intriguing...
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Post by: Doctor Who? on June 15, 2010, 12:27:30 PM
Odd to have this interview now but for what it's worth: Eccleston reveals why he quit 'Doctor Who' (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/news-extra/article/14123/page-2/eccleston-reveals-why-he-quit-doctor-who.html)

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I didn't enjoy the environment and the culture that we, the cast and crew, had to work in. I wasn't comfortable. I thought, 'If I stay in this job, I'm going to have to blind myself to certain things that I thought were wrong.'

Intriguing...

Sounds like there was either something going on behind the scenes he didn't like,or maybe he didn't like The Doctor/Rose love story any more then some fans.  I have to say whatever the case I respect an actor who will walk away if he thinks the job isn't working out rather then stay on a popular show just for the money.  I wonder if he will ever say what it is he didn't like.

Oh and on an unrelated note,people used to make jokes about james bond spreading STDs and in the same vain I just thought of something.  How many alien and human STD do you think Captain Jack has? ;)  Just something to think about.
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Post by: Tripe on June 15, 2010, 12:36:29 PM
I wonder if he will ever say what it is he didn't like.
That's what I meant by "intriguing" :)

I think if anyone's watched the confidentials or  video diaries and the like, they have a general idea of what it is like on set, I wonder what Eccleston didn't like.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on June 15, 2010, 01:59:00 PM
Oh and on an unrelated note,people used to make jokes about james bond spreading STDs and in the same vain I just thought of something.  How many alien and human STD do you think Captain Jack has? ;)  Just something to think about.

Oh, Christ - let's NOT think about that one.  I can see that idea turning into the worst Torchwood episode ever.

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Post by: Doctor Who? on June 15, 2010, 02:20:50 PM
Ok here is what I thought about each of the first three episodes.



WARNING THERE MAY BE SPOILERS!















































THE 11TH HOUR
I hate regeneration stories where The Doctor is either out of his head or just asleep,to me it's wasting an episode to do that.  The show keeps us waiting six to nine months to see the new doctor,to then get an episode where he is not doing much is as much a waist of time as a clip show.  I was glad to see Matt Smith just get up and running.  Is he too much like David Tenant?  Well he is similar but he does not get depressed like or engage in meladrama,and he doesn't do insane things just to mug for the camera.  As much as I liked Tenant he did both and be it a fault with the writing or his choice it did got on my nerves as his time with the show went on.  If I were to describe Smith at this point I would say he is like putting seasons 12-15 Tom Baker and season 20 Peter Davidson in a blender.

Now on to Amy Pond.  She is played by a good actress and works very well with Smith.  What is more she plays it and is written as more of a friend of The Doctor not a girlfriend.  There are undertones that she may like The Doctor as more then a friend,but it is play as something under the surfice and it doesn't fill the stories with soap elements like past season were.  Most of the time she plays it as if she is just The Doctor's friend,and that is a good thing if you as me.

The story it's self is fun,it does a good job of introducing the new Doctor,and it does establish a new feel for the show.  The show feels much closer to the 70s Who then past who,that again is a good thing.  Also I think Moffet is better at writing fun adventure show dialog then Davis.  Also this story is fast paced with out ever feeling rushed.  If the rest of the season has this feel it will be one of my favorite seasons ever.

9.5/10
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Post by: Tripe on June 15, 2010, 02:23:07 PM
Oh and on an unrelated note,people used to make jokes about james bond spreading STDs and in the same vain I just thought of something.  How many alien and human STD do you think Captain Jack has? ;)  Just something to think about.
Oh, Christ - let's NOT think about that one.  I can see that idea turning into the worst Torchwood episode ever.
Actually I think that's what the Intergalactic Oven Ready Turkeys gave Ianto...
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Post by: goflyblind on June 15, 2010, 02:25:39 PM
Oh and on an unrelated note,people used to make jokes about james bond spreading STDs and in the same vain I just thought of something.  How many alien and human STD do you think Captain Jack has? ;)  Just something to think about.

Oh, Christ - let's NOT think about that one.  I can see that idea turning into the worst Torchwood episode ever.

if he can heal a bullet-wound, he can heal a weeping, puss-filled junk sore.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on June 15, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
Oh and on an unrelated note,people used to make jokes about james bond spreading STDs and in the same vain I just thought of something.  How many alien and human STD do you think Captain Jack has? ;)  Just something to think about.

Oh, Christ - let's NOT think about that one.  I can see that idea turning into the worst Torchwood episode ever.

if he can heal a bullet-wound, he can heal a weeping, puss-filled junk sore.

Seems like a painful way to live,also what stops him from spreading it to other people ;)
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on June 16, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Did the rest of you see this odd little piece (http://scifiwire.com/2010/06/eccleston-left-doctor-who.php) yesterday about Christopher Eccleston?  It purports to tell us the real reason he left the show after only one season.  Unfortunately, it does no such thing.  All he says is that the show felt "wrong" for some reason. 

And then the comments thread goes off into a sexual politics flame war.  Thank you, internet.

I certainly didn't mind Eccleston's take on the role, and actually liked it quite a bit; although I understand many didn't, especially in comparison to the incomparable Mr. Tennant.  Blah blah blah, some people like some Doctors while disliking others.  I like them all to a certain extent in that I like the character, and I can see what each actor brought to the role. 

So will we ever know the real real reason he left one of the most successful shows after just one year, and does anyone really care?  Honestly, I can't say that I do.
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on June 16, 2010, 11:17:55 AM
That was mentioned (and discussed briefly) on the previous page in this thread.

Frak!  If only I had gone back one page.  Never mind then.
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Post by: Dim of the Yard on June 16, 2010, 09:04:06 PM
I'm slowly getting into it.  I wanted to start with what actually exists of the First Doctor and work my way to the present, but it just seems foolish in retrospect.  So I'm digging into the new season slowly, but surely.  Hooray, BBCA On Demand!

So far, I like it.  I'm definitely liking Eleven, and Amy Pond is growing on me.  I liked her better as a kid, but I'm starting to grow fond of her as a not-kid.  So far, I'm only past the first three episodes and working on the fourth, but my only complaint so far is the multicolored Daleks.  I think I liked the Daleks better before they decided to become deranged Power Rangers.

I'm watching the fourth episode right now; the first part of the story with the Weeping Angels.  Very creepy so far.  Loving it.  Think I've heard of this sort of thing before... if I'm not mistaken, the "only moves when you look at it" thing is basically the creepy factor behind the first entry of the SCP Foundation... but I'm loving watching it in action.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on June 16, 2010, 09:08:36 PM
I like everything about the new Daleks except the colors,I hope they tone them down next time.  I am not against different types of Daleks having different colors so we can tell what they do,I just think they shouldn't be so bright.  I like that it is implied that we will be seeing the Daleks with a full blown empire next time.  I wonder why Amy can't remember them,is it just her or everyone on earth?
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Post by: Ortega on June 16, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
  I wonder why Amy can't remember them,is it just here or everyone on earth?

tee-hee ;) ;D
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Post by: Doctor Who? on June 17, 2010, 04:43:06 PM
Hey is anyone else here not being able to load the Galifrey base website.  It will not load and I need to know if it is the site or my computer.  Thanks.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on June 17, 2010, 05:36:51 PM
Hey is anyone else here not being able to load the Galifrey base website.  It will not load and I need to know if it is the site or my computer.  Thanks.

It's not just you.  The site is down completely.  There's a message up and everything.
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Post by: Doctor Who? on June 17, 2010, 05:51:37 PM
Ok.  Glad to know my computer is not messing up.  I hope they get the site back up soon.
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Post by: Quicksilver on June 19, 2010, 09:19:20 PM
just saw the first of the last two episodes of this season, you guys will be surprised and to anyone that saw it, I say wtf!!!!

you'll understand what 'i mean 
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on June 20, 2010, 01:13:19 AM
GAH!  How am I supposed to survive until next week?
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Post by: Quicksilver on June 20, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
i kno right! I think I have an idea what's going on, I pretty sure
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Post by: lassieface on June 20, 2010, 10:16:46 PM
It sucks being on the American schedule. I'm watching season 4 to keep me going.

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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 20, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
GAH!  How am I supposed to survive until next week?

Next week, you're lucky, will probably be over a month on the BBC America schedule, I haven't looked to see if we get a new episode on the July 4th weekend.

Just watched Cold Blood.  Part 1 seemed better to me, this part was still good, but seemed like they stretched the story out a bit to make it cover 2 episodes. 
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on June 21, 2010, 06:34:00 AM
GAH!  How am I supposed to survive until next week?

Next week, you're lucky, will probably be over a month on the BBC America schedule, I haven't looked to see if we get a new episode on the July 4th weekend.

Er, yeah...I refuse to comment further on the situation on the grounds that it may incriminate me. ;)
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Post by: lassieface on June 21, 2010, 06:38:20 AM
GAH!  How am I supposed to survive until next week?

Next week, you're lucky, will probably be over a month on the BBC America schedule, I haven't looked to see if we get a new episode on the July 4th weekend.

Just watched Cold Blood.  Part 1 seemed better to me, this part was still good, but seemed like they stretched the story out a bit to make it cover 2 episodes. 

Agreed. But that was a very surprising ending.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on June 21, 2010, 05:34:42 PM
GAH!  How am I supposed to survive until next week?

Next week, you're lucky, will probably be over a month on the BBC America schedule, I haven't looked to see if we get a new episode on the July 4th weekend.

Just watched Cold Blood.  Part 1 seemed better to me, this part was still good, but seemed like they stretched the story out a bit to make it cover 2 episodes. 

Agreed. But that was a very surprising ending.

Yes, it was.   The narration was OK during the episode, kept you guessing as to the outcome of the negotiations, but the bit at the end was unnecessary and kinda lessened the impact of the ending because it made me start wondering how he knew what happens next?
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Post by: ScottotD on June 24, 2010, 03:35:42 AM
Just watched 'Pandorica' and I'm VERRRRRRY worried they've done a Russel T and written a part one that can only be resolved with a massive and (to me) unsatisfying cheat... we'll see.
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Post by: Quicksilver on June 24, 2010, 09:16:53 AM
As long as he doesn't cheat there is a way or two to resolve this, but it'll be a genius or complete fail situation.
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damn you russell  :angry:
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on June 24, 2010, 08:00:21 PM
Well, I won't be able to watch it Saturday, as I'll be down in Chicago watching the CROSSROADS GUITAR FESTIVAL HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT.  So I'll be avoiding GB until Sunday at least.  Maybe even til Monday.
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Post by: Quicksilver on June 26, 2010, 12:00:01 PM
about hrs till I can watch the end  :o
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Post by: matthew j elliott on June 26, 2010, 12:57:46 PM
Just watched the last episode - imagine my surprise when Matt Smith regenerated back into Christopher Eccleston
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Post by: Compound on June 26, 2010, 02:01:12 PM
Plus the startling revelation that this River was also made of (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/4/29/) Chocolate.

Wow. I'm just impressed that I can make that reference with another Sci-fi show.
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Post by: goflyblind on June 26, 2010, 03:40:52 PM
two things:
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Post by: Courtney on June 26, 2010, 04:24:02 PM
THAT WAS SO FUCKING AWESOME.

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Post by: Quicksilver on June 27, 2010, 09:03:58 AM
^^^well I dont know if that's over enthusiasm or sarcasm.

Either way I liked it, I'll just say that.
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Post by: Courtney on June 27, 2010, 09:05:09 AM
It's neither. I genuinely enjoyed it that much.
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Post by: lassieface on June 27, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
I've finished seasons 1-4 now...totally cried when Tennant left. And I just watched the Vincent Van Gogh episode in the current season...this is killing me though, cause I've heard the ending of this season is awesome.
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on June 28, 2010, 10:19:00 PM
i concur with BBQ, hands down, an awesome episode.

I also have to agree that the Van Gogh episode was quite good.  Loved the visuals, loved the ending.  Quite moving, quite inspirational.
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Post by: Chaos on July 01, 2010, 03:21:57 PM
I still genuinely can't believe that anyone could be enjoying these episodes. The writing is TERRIBLE. Miss ginger CANNOT act. It is horrible. You're all taking crazy pills.
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Post by: goflyblind on July 01, 2010, 03:28:27 PM
You're all taking crazy pills.

only the best ones i can find. :D
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Post by: Tripe on July 01, 2010, 03:34:21 PM
You're all taking crazy pills.

only the best ones i can find. :D
Those tend to be made from dried frog.
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Post by: Courtney on July 04, 2010, 08:42:27 AM
Good news: There's a marathon on BBC America today. Bad news: They apparently decided to only include episodes everyone hates, such as Dalek, the Daleks in Manhattan two-parter, Gridlock (which I like but no one else does ) and New Earth (which I also like but no one else does). So do with it what you will. In the case of the first two, I guess they just went with episodes with American characters in honor of the Fourth, but they happened to be really obnoxious characters.

Watching Dalek made me notice something - yes, Moffat writes everything better than RTD, but dear lord, he REALLY writes villains better. RTD's villains were all so one-dimensional evil and smug. Moffat has actually succeed in making me feel bad for the bad guy.

Also, going back and watching Eccelston after all the DT and Matt Smith, I have decided I just really don't care for his Doctor at all. He could do dark, but he was offensively bad at anything else. He's a decent actor, but he was a bad choice for DW.
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Post by: Courtney on July 04, 2010, 10:09:38 AM
I think the hymn was a classic example of another RTD trope: There is no God, there is only the Doctor.
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Post by: Lemming Howard on July 04, 2010, 10:28:31 AM
Watching Gridlock now I think.  Like the vehicles.  That they float probably helps.
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Post by: Chaos on July 04, 2010, 03:34:38 PM
We always liked Gridlock. It's a nice ep.
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Post by: Chaos on July 05, 2010, 07:46:55 PM
We always liked Gridlock. It's a nice ep.

Ah.  If you liked Gridlock then I understand why you don't like the new series.

Jacob (TWOP) sums it up far better than I probably could:

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3196597&st=240#

(first post on the page)
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on July 05, 2010, 09:32:11 PM
Lord knows I can sympathize with the sort of sentiment he's expressing (even though I think this year's finale is the best "big finale" since "Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways").  Well, at least I think I do - if this guy hates "The Big Bang" even half as much as I hated "Journey's End," than I think I can feel his pain.  Still, I don't ask the people who liked it if they've been taking crazy pills (or use "you liked Insert Unpopular Episode Here" as a counterargument).

I really don't like to debate much about episode opinions, though. I tend to avoid "Rate the Episode" discussions on GB.  The only two people whose opinions on DW I actually go out of my way to read are Andrew Rilstone and Jonathan Blum.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 05, 2010, 10:08:10 PM
I think it's reasonable that if someone liked a particular style of episode that I hated, and hates a style of season I like, they're not unrelated things.

That said, I still haven't watched any more eps of this season, so can't comment on the finale.

Yea, no new episode on BBC America this weekend, so I think 3 more weeks to go?  Arrrgg...
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on July 06, 2010, 12:52:43 AM
I think the hymn was a classic example of another RTD trope: There is no God, there is only the Doctor.

I always thought it was interesting how much overt Christianity there was in RTD's Who episodes, considering his own lack of religion.  I imagine that many religious people watching those episodes didn't take it as some kind of metaphor for the Doctor himself, and perhaps this helped appease the mass BBC audience.  Or maybe it wasn't a metaphor at all, and maybe RTD included it because, for better or worse, religion is just another part of life.  I don't really know though.


We always liked Gridlock. It's a nice ep.
Ah.  If you liked Gridlock then I understand why you don't like the new series.

I liked Gridlock and I like the new series.

I always think it's odd to start talking about what you like and what you don't like, because like is such a broad term that can mean anything.  I don't think every Who episode is equal; some are certainly better than the others.  And I don't think every Doctor is equal, either.  But I can generally find something in any given Who episode to hold my interest, and I think that each Doctor brought something new to the table.  Plus I guess I'm not so self-centered as to think that the most important criteria of worth in the universe is whether I personally like something or not.

That said, I do enjoy watching the new Doctor and Companion enough to keep doing it, and I'm looking forward to seeing how the season-long arc turns out.
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Post by: lassieface on July 06, 2010, 08:17:50 AM
Speaking of obnoxious Americans, one of the guys from Daleks in Manhattan is the new Spider-Man.

Oh, that's were I've seen that guy before. I didn't think he was that bad in it, but maybe I should rewatch it.
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Post by: Courtney on July 06, 2010, 08:36:23 AM
I think the hymn was a classic example of another RTD trope: There is no God, there is only the Doctor.

I always thought it was interesting how much overt Christianity there was in RTD's Who episodes, considering his own lack of religion.  I imagine that many religious people watching those episodes didn't take it as some kind of metaphor for the Doctor himself, and perhaps this helped appease the mass BBC audience.  Or maybe it wasn't a metaphor at all, and maybe RTD included it because, for better or worse, religion is just another part of life.  I don't really know though.

I always saw it as him constantly pointing out how stupid religion was, while simultaneously ensuring that within the context of the series, the Doctor is the only God figure who exists.

We always liked Gridlock. It's a nice ep.

Ah.  If you liked Gridlock then I understand why you don't like the new series.

Jacob (TWOP) sums it up far better than I probably could:

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3196597&st=240#

(first post on the page)

Maybe it's my own lack of factual science knowledge, but when it comes to sci-fi, I don't really notice plotholes. It's really easy for me to write things off as TARDIS/Hellmouth/space science. But one thing a commenter points out - the disbelief that the Doctor could only know to write the notes to Amelia because Amelia told him he did it - isn't that the same as him giving River his sonic just because she told him he did it? I guess I just don't really care about the facts. It's fiction. It doesn't make me enjoy it less.
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Post by: Ortega on July 06, 2010, 05:57:27 PM
Moffet used the same kind of non-linear view of time before.  In Time Crash, 10th only knew how to fix the TARDIS because he remembered seeing him do it when he was 5th.  I know the nit-picky forum dude would ask where did the knowledge come from, but again, ...."wibbly-wobbly, timey-whimey"

The only thing that i call foul on is this:
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I can say that, in my personal opinion, this was close to a near perfect season.  Especially the nice qiurky episodes like Vincent and the Doctor, and The Lodger
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Post by: ScottotD on July 06, 2010, 09:36:52 PM
Finally watched part 2 of the conclusion, LOVED it.  There wasn't the massive stand out eps this season but I think that's because (to me) the overall quality was so much higher.


Also, I want to adopt little Amy and marry big Amy.
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Post by: Courtney on July 12, 2010, 02:10:01 PM
She's great and just gets better. Far and away my favorite companion.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 12, 2010, 05:57:15 PM
Finally saw Amy's Choice. 

Fantastic ep. I so love Amy Pond.

She's also great in the Van Gogh episode.  Hope she stays for several seasons.

Just watched "The Lodger", great episode but not enough Amy!
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 12, 2010, 06:14:26 PM
Watched the first Silurian ep.  Very meh.  Still better than the Daleks one, but also still "meh."  Nice creep-factor with the vivisection though.

I thought the second half was better paced, that one seemed like there was not quite enough for 2 episode but it probably would have been hard to cram it into a single, so I guess they stretched out the first one.
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Post by: ScottotD on July 13, 2010, 03:36:45 AM
It also irritates me when shows get very basic Latin wrong ("homo reptilia"). There are thousands of classics majors out there who would happily tell them about noun-adjective agreement for nothing more than a credit on the show.   Back in the days, the producers, actors, staff, and pretty much everyone involved would've known better.

Of course, they would also not have produced a piece of shit like "The Fires of Pompeii."

Are those rose coloured glasses perscription?
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Post by: goflyblind on July 13, 2010, 04:09:50 AM
there are still classics majors?
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Post by: Tripe on July 13, 2010, 05:34:36 AM
It also irritates me when shows get very basic Latin wrong ("homo reptilia"). There are thousands of classics majors out there who would happily tell them about noun-adjective agreement for nothing more than a credit on the show.   Back in the days, the producers, actors, staff, and pretty much everyone involved would've known better.

Of course, they would also not have produced a piece of shit like "The Fires of Pompeii."

Are those rose coloured glasses perscription?

No, he's correct; Latin, and Greek to some extent, would have been part of the basic education of most of those working at the BBC since they tended to be drawn from Public or Grammar Schools so they would have known better.

Whether they would have been bothered to do better is a difference matter but certainly they would have had a grounding in classics.
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Post by: ScottotD on July 13, 2010, 05:37:33 AM
I understand that perhaps Latin would have been correct in earlier shows, my jibe however was related to the quality of the older episodes vs. the new ones.
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Post by: Courtney on July 16, 2010, 05:59:58 AM
I feel like in any other season, the song at the end would have been very cheesy. But here it was perfect. I was a sniffling mess at the end. (A sniffling mess still crying "ROOORRYYYY!" a week later)
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Post by: mrbasehart on July 16, 2010, 11:46:36 AM
Just found out that my brother's friend has been in every single episode of the new Doctor Who as an extra.  I've seen pictures of him hanging around in a Cyberman outfit (minus the helmet) which I must admit, looked pretty cool.
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on July 17, 2010, 06:40:03 AM
How about The Lodger?  I really liked seeing the Doctor try and fit in with the lowly humans and never quite succeed.  And I think Matt Smith plays that kind of congenial awkwardness quite well.  Overall, I liked the goofy overtones combined with the serious undertones.  And that the Doctor talked to a cat.

It does seem to be a running thing with this Doctor and with the last one to show people who are in love with each other but who won't or can't express it.  The problem is that, since there is only so much time in a TV show, the writers and actors always have to make it really obvious to the audience so we get it almost instantly.  But then that usually makes the characters look just appallingly oblivious.  It's not a huge complaint, I just hope they don't keep doing it.

This was the second episode this season where they referenced all the past Doctors, and the speculation is that this forebodes some big change for the character.  I guess we'll see if that turns out to be true.
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on July 17, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
This was the second episode this season where they referenced all the past Doctors, and the speculation is that this forebodes some big change for the character.  I guess we'll see if that turns out to be true.
Third one.  "11th Hour," "Vincent and the Doctor," and this one.

Whoops, third one.  Thank you.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 17, 2010, 08:57:31 PM
This was the second episode this season where they referenced all the past Doctors, and the speculation is that this forebodes some big change for the character.  I guess we'll see if that turns out to be true.
Third one.  "11th Hour," "Vincent and the Doctor," and this one.

Whoops, third one.  Thank you.

When he flashed his physic paper as an ID in Victory of the Daleks wasn't it a picture of the first doc?  Or was that another episode?  I wonder if there have been other episode where they have snuck in images of the other doctors? 

I did notice on the wall in the background of in one scene in The Lodger  there was a pamphlet for the Van Goth exhibit.
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on July 19, 2010, 09:26:38 PM
I did notice on the wall in the background of in one scene in The Lodger  there was a pamphlet for the Van Goth exhibit.

Van Gogh was all over this episode - the picture in the hallway and the pamphlet for the exhibit.  At times I kind of felt like okay, yes, we get it.  But on the other hand I like the attention to detail.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 20, 2010, 12:00:45 AM
Just watched the second to the last episode.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

One more week for us on the BBC America schedule, can't wait to see how it gets resolved.
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Post by: lassieface on July 20, 2010, 12:56:27 PM
Just watched the second to the last episode.

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One more week for us on the BBC America schedule, can't wait to see how it gets resolved.

Don't watch the clip on the BBC America website...I could be wrong, but it seems to show how part of it will go down. I must be stupid though, cause I didn't figure it out.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on July 20, 2010, 08:33:32 PM
Here's a photo album of what used to be the Doctor Who museum in Blackpool, but is now a den of UFO lunacy called Alien Base.  The link to Doctor Who still remains, however:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs039.ash2/35290_413793516033_654671033_5277933_7206558_n.jpg)



Link to the whole album here:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=196829&id=654671033&l=2e5a7515cd (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=196829&id=654671033&l=2e5a7515cd)
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on July 23, 2010, 11:17:03 AM
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Indeed, although I think there was some niggling question as to whether or not it was a future or past Doctor already in there or whether it was empty and waiting for him.  Once it was shown as empty, then everything fell into place and it was quite obvious that it was all an elaborate trap for him.  The only criticism I would make, were I to make one, is that it felt a little too Bond-villain convoluted.  I can see reasons why the united enemies don't want to kill him, but it seems like it could have been a lot easier to trap him.  Although then this whole last season wouldn't have been as interesting.

All in all I really liked it.  And it left a ton of questions to ponder.  I'm curious to see if this next episode resolves it all, or if there's an even bigger cliffhanger for the end of the season.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 25, 2010, 05:52:15 PM
Loved the final episode, not sure it made any sense but it was a lot of fun, and that's what's important....

Makes me think of that episode where the master tried to destroy the tardis by sending it back to the big bang (my least favorite regeneration shows), seems like in this new series the tardis has a lot more power than it had back then...  Guess we can just blame the time war for that, or something...

Anyway, fun episode, and overall a very fun season.  I enjoyed all of them, unlike the last few seasons where some episodes were tolerable at best.

FYI, iTunes has the entire series 1 on sale for $10, picked it up last night, not HD but still a pretty good price for 13 episodes.
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Post by: lassieface on July 25, 2010, 10:20:52 PM
Holy balls that was awesome! I can't wait to see where the River Song story line goes!
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on July 28, 2010, 03:21:16 PM
Loved the final episode, not sure it made any sense but it was a lot of fun, and that's what's important....

I really kept expecting it to not make sense, but I think it holds up pretty well.  And as you say, it was a lot of fun and a great ride.  Also I like that it didn't answer everything, and that there are still mysteries to solve in the coming season.

The only thing that I didn't quite get was that apparently River could remember the Doctor.  Or else how did she know to give the book to Amy?  But if River could remember him, then why didn't anyone else?  Maybe there's an explanation for this that I missed somewhere.

This was also actually an instance where I liked retconning.  The whole season was pretty much retconned and it totally made sense to me.

All in all, I really liked this last season a lot and am looking forward to the next with Matt Smith and his now two companions.
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Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on July 28, 2010, 06:49:06 PM
The only thing that I didn't quite get was that apparently River could remember the Doctor.  Or else how did she know to give the book to Amy?  But if River could remember him, then why didn't anyone else?  Maybe there's an explanation for this that I missed somewhere.

That's what didn't fit for me, how did River know to give the book to Amy?  I can see the book being in Amy's dreams so it could be recreated just like the dolls on her desk, and it being blank because she never saw the inside of it, but how did River know about Amy if she didn't remember the doctor?

Maybe we'll find out next season, I was just re-watching the ones with the angels and the warning given to the doc says he doesn't know who or what she was... 
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 02, 2010, 12:18:36 AM
As you may or may not know, Doctor Who once again invaded the BBC Proms this year.  Matt Smith did a little bit at the start of it:

http://www.youtube.com/v/YYmj5rNY390
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Post by: Tripe on August 02, 2010, 02:47:41 PM
The really surprising thing is that this is only a fake trailer and that it hasn't already been done for real:

http://www.youtube.com/v/WPCrGsya1ZI&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1?color1=0x234900&amp;color2=0x4e9e00&amp;border=1
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Post by: WeatherServo9 on August 04, 2010, 01:00:09 PM
As you may or may not know, Doctor Who once again invaded the BBC Proms this year.  Matt Smith did a little bit at the start of it:

Funny.  Although he appears to be really out of breath the whole time, which reminded me of that scene in Overdrawn at the Memory Bank when the one doctor appears to be really out of breath for no reason.
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Post by: TeamRAD on August 06, 2010, 02:06:22 PM

I believe I can now enter this thread...

I've now seen Series 1, 2, & 5, and be it that I've enjoyed all three of them, Series 2 definitely stands out as my favorite. The Madame de Pompadour episode was absolutely gorgeous, and the finale was so insanely entertaining. I've been quoting the Dalek shit-talk since I saw the finale earlier in the week:

"You are superior in only one respect."
"What is that?"
"You are better at dying!"

The Daleks are such little bitches underneath their poly-carbine armor, and I love those little bastards. And when did Cybermen develop tear ducts? Oh, I must mention the Adeola/Gareth continuity from the earlier Cybermen two-parter; very rewarding how well the four Cybermen-centric episodes were eventually tied up.

But yeah, Dalek shit-talking FTW, and I'm doubting I'll see an episode of Who better than "The Girl in the Fireplace". I'm officially on-board...and Amy Pond really annoys me. :)

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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2010, 02:41:07 PM
But yeah, Dalek shit-talking FTW, and I'm doubting I'll see an episode of Who better than "The Girl in the Fireplace".
Blink's in searies 3 isn't it?

Now, go watch Carnival of Monsters.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 06, 2010, 06:28:02 PM
I don't think the Cybermen have gotten a story that I would call "great" (or even all that good) since The Invasion.  The 70s and 80s Cyber-stories were all middling-to-terrible (yes, even Earthshock - Silver Nemesis is actually the best of the lot).  "Rise of the Cybermen" was...meh, and apparently Russell T. Davies didn't think the Cybermen were interesting enough to carry their own story in "Doomsday" (which was decent, but a bit too fanwanky for my liking).

It's a shame because they're such great villains, with a whole lot of territory to explore both conceptually and emotionally.  It leaves me wondering what it is the DW writers don't get.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 06, 2010, 06:42:45 PM
Series 3 has some really good episodes--Blink and Human Nature/Family of Blood are amongst the best of Who.

It also, however, has "The Last of the Timelords," which I think perhaps wins as "stupidest Who story ever."

I'll agree with you there, though I think that everything in the LotTL 3-parter up until the last 10 minutes or so of "The Sound of Drums" is amazing.  Then it starts to get silly. Worst of all, the ending accidentally ends up subverting the very point that RTD was trying to make (of what sort of good humans are capable of).  In the end, the message just comes across as "The Doctor is Jesus."

"Journey's End" was a jillion times worse, though.  Now THERE was a two-parter that sucked right off the bat and got worse.  I've read issues of Axe Cop that made more narrative sense than "Journey's End."  I mean, I'm actually quite fond of RTD's era (I wouldn't have become a fan if he hadn't brought it back), and he certainly is a capable writer when he puts his mind to it (I mean, he wrote "Midnight" in like three days as a desperate attempt to fill space in Season 4).  But when he's bad, he is BAAAAAD.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 06, 2010, 06:53:34 PM
It's a shame because they're such great villains, with a whole lot of territory to explore both conceptually and emotionally.  It leaves me wondering what it is the DW writers don't get.

Ever listen to the Big Finish audio dramas? Spare Parts is a pretty good Cybermen story.

Can't say I have.  It sounds intriguing.  That's by the guy who wrote Ghost Light, isn't it?  I fucking love Ghost Light.
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Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2010, 07:25:17 PM
Ghost Light is one of the few Doctor/Ace stories I've seen.  I've heard lots, but only seen that and one with vampires in it.
I love Curse of Fenric I actually really liked McCoy I really should listen to some BF.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 06, 2010, 08:14:30 PM
Ghost Light is my favorite Doctor Who story of all time.  No joke.
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Post by: Thom_Serveaux on August 06, 2010, 10:17:55 PM
Once again, I'm probably the next to last person here to learn of this, but there is a very talented artist by the name of Rich Morris.  I came across a link to a video on YouTube(it popped up at the end of the DW fake anime trailer posted by Tripe, I think)  Someone created a sort of slideshow video of a DW fancomic he started back in '07, called 'The Ten Doctors'.  Let me tell you I was HOOKED!  (that's saying something for someone who's only seen a handful of DW episodes, all during the 4th's tenure)

So much so I had to go over to his website and see how it all ended.  Long story short, I spent about 5 or 6 hours (or more) checking out that story and the next 3 as well.  Here's a link to the cover page of 'The Ten Doctors' story: http://comics.shipsinker.com/2007/03/10/a-doctor-who-comic-the-10-doctors/ (http://comics.shipsinker.com/2007/03/10/a-doctor-who-comic-the-10-doctors/)

Also not to be missed:
http://comics.shipsinker.com/da-10-docs/ (http://comics.shipsinker.com/da-10-docs/)

http://comics.shipsinker.com/8-9-regeneration-page/ (http://comics.shipsinker.com/8-9-regeneration-page/)

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 06, 2010, 10:54:14 PM
Yup.  I'm a regular reader.  "The Stalker of Norfolk" was very good as well.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Thom_Serveaux on August 07, 2010, 10:16:48 AM
Yup.  I'm a regular reader.  "The Stalker of Norfolk" was very good as well.
Yes, but the next story has been truly outrageous.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 07, 2010, 11:47:17 AM
Yeah...not exactly the first idea I'd have in mind for a crossover.  Still, the 80s and Colin Baker were pretty much made for each other.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Thom_Serveaux on August 07, 2010, 02:17:56 PM
Have you seen this?
http://gorpo.deviantart.com/#/d2jjnqb (http://gorpo.deviantart.com/#/d2jjnqb)
It's from his DA album...
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: TeamRAD on August 09, 2010, 07:12:55 PM
But yeah, Dalek shit-talking FTW, and I'm doubting I'll see an episode of Who better than "The Girl in the Fireplace".
Blink's in searies 3 isn't it?

Now, go watch Carnival of Monsters.

I got a taste of what's to come w/ "Blink" w/ the two-part Weeping Angel mini-arc in Series 5. Their conception is so cool, but the elegant monsters, time windows, eighteenth-century France, love story, and the random horse in TGitF really worked for me. Again, that entire series, sans one episode, just rocked. Giles even joined in on the fun! 

On the "Carnival of Monsters", it's on my list of stories to see this year, but as for the moment, I'm messing w/ some Colin & Tom Baker stuff before I dive into Series 3. Oh, and I'm gonna sit down and watch the Pewtree story, "The Green Death" this weekend. I wanna giggle at some maggots.

I thought Cybermen always had tear ducts, but they seem to come and go:

It also, however, has "The Last of the Timelords," which I think perhaps wins as "stupidest Who story ever."

Whoops, I should have been more detailed w/ my Cybermen comment. The fact that Yvonne's left tear duct leaked oil cracked me up in "Doomsday". Alongside questions in Series 1 & 5, that didn't make any sense, but the two-part finale was a ton of fun...so I didn't care.

And "The Last of the Timelords" is worse than "Love & Monsters"? That was an arduous task to sit through.  :)

Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: dangfish on August 10, 2010, 11:32:41 AM
I just caught up with the two part finale last night.  Like the whole season, I enjoyed them considerably, but I'm not 100% sure I understood everything.  Without getting into all the hoary detail, I'll try to make my question simple and relatively spoiler-free:   We now know what caused the crazy crack in time we've been seeing all season, but we still don't know why Amy is special, right?
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on August 10, 2010, 12:25:52 PM
Yeah, I'd say it's worse than Love and Monsters.  Because for all its faults, the ELO rockin' scene in L&M was awesome.

That part actually made me extra mad. Like it was somehow rude to bring something wonderful into this terrible world of suck.

I just caught up with the two part finale last night.  Like the whole season, I enjoyed them considerably, but I'm not 100% sure I understood everything.  Without getting into all the hoary detail, I'll try to make my question simple and relatively spoiler-free:   We now know what caused the crazy crack in time we've been seeing all season, but we still don't know why Amy is special, right?


I believe that's correct, and we don't yet know who took over the TARDIS.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: goflyblind on August 10, 2010, 12:45:08 PM
I believe that's correct, and we don't yet know who took over the TARDIS.

of course we do: mr. scary voice.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Courtney on August 10, 2010, 02:58:09 PM
I believe that's correct, and we don't yet know who took over the TARDIS.

of course we do: mr. scary voice.

It sounded like Davros but I refuse to believe it was.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 10, 2010, 06:14:37 PM
I believe that's correct, and we don't yet know who took over the TARDIS.

of course we do: mr. scary voice.

It sounded like Davros but I refuse to believe it was.

If you think of who would want silence you would think of The Master (to stop the drumming), maybe he didn't get sucked in with all the other timelords.

But Davros is another, if he had a way to rebuild the universe with all Daleks.

The Master would be more likely to know how to remote control the tardis.

But maybe they've come up with someone new to replace The Master as an adversary for the doc.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on August 19, 2010, 04:16:57 PM
But maybe they've come up with someone new to replace The Master as an adversary for the doc.
Not new exactly.

I wondering if it might be somebody exceptionally old. We've seen this bugger return:

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/tardis/images/8/89/DW_The_End_of_Time_%28Part_1%29_409-1-.jpg)

Perhaps somebody else of his Ilk might be floating around awaiting the time to make himself known again.

Silence would suggest an end to things after all, as would a certain letter.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: lassieface on August 19, 2010, 10:18:27 PM
After re-watching some episodes, I've determined what villains I want to see again.

3. The Weeping Angels (aways creepy)
2. The Vashta Narada

and my number one, by landslide...

1. The Midnight Entity - Scariest enemy ever! We don't know what it is, what it looks like, where it came from, how it survives on the surface of Midnight. And most of all, it left the Doctor shaken. The unknown is scarier than any monster.

And although they aren't enemies, I also want to see the Ood return.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2010, 01:57:12 AM
A couple days ago, "The Idiot's Lantern" was showing on BBC America, and while I was watching, I noticed something about it that I didn't notice before.  Namely, that it's fucking dreadful.  Like, "worse than 'Fear Her'" bad.

Everything about it sucks.  The dialogue is about as smooth and subtle as a rucksack full of C4, Tennant and Piper are both absolutely awful (I honestly can't remember a worse performance by either one of them), the Wire is an unspeakably boring villain, and the direction is horrendous (I haven't seen this many unnecessary Dutch angle shots since Battlefield Earth).

I mean, I was never a huge fan of it to begin with, but this is the first time I can remember where my opinion of an episode changed so much for the worse upon rewatching it.  I consider myself grateful that Series 5 doesn't contain anything half as bad as this (not even "Victory of the Daleks").  Still, at least it's better than "Journey's End."
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2010, 06:30:15 AM
The only appeal of that episode for me is it's set in Muswell Hill which is a, ahem, lovely part of London I've been stuck in had the pleasure of staying in from time to time.

Thew idea there might be some sort of evil entity consuming the individuality/personalities/vital sparks of the residents doesn't seem all that far fetched.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2010, 08:29:19 AM
To me, the thing about RTD's era (though I find much to like about it) is that on those occasions when it DOES suck, it never just KINDA sucks.  It sucks out loud, in great flashing turd-colored neon letters.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Chaos on August 22, 2010, 09:05:42 AM
See now, that reaction has been MY reaction to about 99% of the last two seasons. And, in truth, I'd probably say more like 99.999999999% of season 5, and just 98.111111 percent of season 4. ;)

Tenant's performance went a long way to make up for the mostly terrible writing of Seasons 3 and 4, as did the few moments of true glory (like the end of Family of Blood, and every single moment of Blink).

Even Matt Smith's pretty damn good portrayal of the Doctor couldn't save Season 5 from the piss poor writing and directing. And his companion megalips was the last nail in the coffin. :P
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2010, 09:46:28 AM
You see, I liked most of Series 4, but the first and last episodes of it (first two episodes if you count VOTD) are absolutely irredeemable.

As for Series 5, the word I'd use for it is consistent.  There aren't any episodes in it I'd put in my bottom 10 (except for maybe "Victory of the Daleks") nor my Top 5 (except for maybe "Vincent and the Doctor").  I have a feeling the Moff will really hit his stride next season.
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 23, 2010, 01:59:29 PM
A DOCTOR WHO GAME IS COMING TO THE WII AND DS!

http://ultimatedoctorwhosite.blogspot.com/2010/08/new-official-doctor-who-video-game.html (http://ultimatedoctorwhosite.blogspot.com/2010/08/new-official-doctor-who-video-game.html)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Johnny Unusual on August 26, 2010, 07:18:49 PM
Hopefully, they are Graphic Adventures, as the good Doctor was never a go around and beat the crap out of everyone type of hero (though he had his moments).
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Thom_Serveaux on August 26, 2010, 08:28:17 PM
I myself only saw a smidgen of the Tom Baker eps back in the mid 80's (reruns most likely)  That and something called 'Blake's (something or other), never stuck around long enough to catch the name.  I only saw a few minutes here or there a couple of times.  It seemed a bit like a british 'star trek' type show.  What stuck in my head was the pronunciation of  'telly-port'.  Kinda made it obvious it was from the BBC, but I digress....

 I wasn't sure about whether to place this here or in the 'classic Dr. Who thread'.  I'd gotten a bit curious about the show due to the announcement by BBQ about the upcoming Mafia game. So I thought I'd try to track down as much as of the show from the beginning as I could.  I see now that I'm not the only one.  I went to Wikipedia and tracked down an article on 'Dr. Who Serials' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Who_serials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Who_serials)

I used that in conjunction with Netflix to determine just how much (or little) of the show they have on hand.
Here are my findings:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 26, 2010, 09:48:23 PM
That and something called 'Blake's (something or other), never stuck around long enough to catch the name.

That would be Blake's 7, nothing at all like Star Trek....  But a half decent show except the ending was so depressing.

Maybe spoiler that list, it makes the post insanely long....
Title: Re: Dr. Who anyone?
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 26, 2010, 09:49:01 PM
I myself only saw a smidgen of the Tom Baker eps back in the mid 80's (reruns most likely)  That and something called 'Blake's (something or other), never stuck around long enough to catch the name.  I only saw a few minutes here or there a couple of times.  It seemed a bit like a british 'star trek' type show.  What stuck in my head was the pronunciation of  'telly-port'.  Kinda made it obvious it was from the BBC, but I digress....

 I wasn't sure about whether to place this here or in the 'classic Dr. Who thread'.  I'd gotten a bit curious about the show due to the announcement by BBQ about the upcoming Mafia game. So I thought I'd try to track down as much as of the show from the beginning as I could.  I see now that I'm not the only one.  I went to Wikipedia and tracked down an article on 'Dr. Who Serials' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Who_serials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Who_serials)

I used that in conjunction with Netflix to determine just how much (or little) of the show they have on hand.
Here are my findings:

The entries in red are the ones that Netflix does not have

Season 1 (1963-64)

No    Title    
001    An Unearthly Child
aka 100,000 BC
aka The Tribe of Gum

"The Cave of Skulls"
"The Forest of Fear"
"The Firemaker"    

002    The Daleks
aka The Mutants
aka The Dead Planet    

"The Survivors"
"The Escape"
"The Ambush"
"The Expedition"
"The Ordeal"
"The Rescue"    

003    The Edge of Destruction
aka Inside the Spaceship
aka Beyond the Sun        

"The Edge of Destruction"
"The Brink of Disaster"    

004    Marco Polo
aka A Journey to Cathay    

"The Roof of the World"
"The Singing Sands"
"Five Hundred Eyes"
"The Wall of Lies"
"Rider from Shang-Tu"
"Mighty Kublai Khan"
"Assassin at Peking"
(all missing)    

005    The Keys of Marinus
aka The Sea of Death    

"The Sea of Death"
"The Velvet Web"
"The Screaming Jungle"
"The Snows of Terror"
"Sentence of Death"
"The Keys of Marinus"    

006    The Aztecs    

"The Temple of Evil"
"The Warriors of Death"
"The Bride of Sacrifice"
"The Day of Darkness"    

007    The Sensorites    

"Strangers in Space"
"The Unwilling Warriors"
"Hidden Danger"
"A Race Against Death"
"Kidnap"
"A Desperate Venture"    

008    The Reign of Terror
aka The French Revolution    

"A Land of Fear"
"Guests of Madame Guillotine"
"A Change of Identity"
"The Tyrant of France"
"A Bargain of Necessity"
"Prisoners of Conciergerie"
(episodes 4-5 missing)    



     Season 2 (1964-65)

No    Title    
009    Planet of Giants    
    
"Planet of Giants"
"Dangerous Journey"
"Crisis"    

010    The Dalek Invasion of Earth
aka World's End    

"World's End"
"The Daleks"
"Day of Reckoning"
"The End of Tomorrow"
"The Waking Ally"
"Flashpoint"    

011    The Rescue    

"The Powerful Enemy"
"Desperate Measures"    

012    The Romans    

"The Slave Traders"
"All Roads Lead to Rome"
"Conspiracy"
"Inferno"    

013    The Web Planet
aka The Zarbi    

"The Web Planet"
"The Zarbi"
"Escape to Danger"
"Crater of Needles"
"Invasion"
"The Centre"    

014    The Crusade
aka The Lionheart
aka The Crusaders    

"The Lion"
"The Knight of Jaffa"
"The Wheel of Fortune"
"The Warlords"
(episodes 2 & 4 missing)    

015    The Space Museum    

"The Space Museum"
"The Dimensions of Time"
"The Search"
"The Final Phase"

016    The Chase    

"The Executioners"
"The Death of Time"
"Flight Through Eternity"
"Journey into Terror"
"The Death of Doctor Who"
"The Planet of Decision"

017    The Time Meddler    

"The Watcher"
"The Meddling Monk"
"A Battle of Wits"
"Checkmate"    


   Season 3 (1965-66)


No    Title
018    Galaxy 4    

"Four Hundred Dawns"
"Trap of Steel"
"Airlock"
"The Exploding Planet"
(all missing)    

019    "Mission to the Unknown"
aka "Dalek Cutaway"    

"Mission to the Unknown"
(missing)    

020    The Myth Makers    

"Temple of Secrets"
"Small Prophet, Quick Return"
"Death of a Spy"
"Horse of Destruction"
(all missing)    

021    The Daleks' Master Plan    

"The Nightmare Begins"
"Day of Armageddon"
"Devil's Planet"
"The Traitors"
"Counter Plot"
"Coronas of the Sun"
"The Feast of Steven"
"Volcano"
"Golden Death"
"Escape Switch"
"The Abandoned Planet"
"Destruction of Time"
(episodes 1, 3-4, 6-9, & 11-12 missing)    

022    The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve
aka The Massacre    

"War of God"
"The Sea Beggar"
"Priest of Death"
"Bell of Doom"
(all episodes missing)    

023    The Ark    

"The Steel Sky"
"The Plague"
"The Return"
"The Bomb"    

024    The Celestial Toymaker    

"The Celestial Toyroom"
"The Hall of Dolls"
"The Dancing Floor"
"The Final Test"
(episodes 1-3 missing)

025    The Gunfighters    

"A Holiday for the Doctor"
"Don't Shoot the Pianist"
"Johnny Ringo"
"The OK Corral"

026    The Savages

4 episodes
(all missing)    

027    The War Machines        
4 episodes    


     Season 4 (1966-67)
No    Title    
028    The Smugglers    
4 episodes
(all missing)    

029    The Tenth Planet    
4 episodes
(episode 4 missing)


      Second Doctor

No    Title    
030    The Power of the Daleks    
6 episodes
(all missing)    

031    The Highlanders    
4 episodes
(all missing)    

032    The Underwater Menace    
4 episodes
(episodes 1, 2, & 4 missing)    

033    The Moonbase    
4 episodes
(episodes 1 & 3 missing)    

034    The Macra Terror    
4 episodes
(all missing)    

035    The Faceless Ones    
6 episodes
(episodes 2 & 4-6 missing)    

036    The Evil of the Daleks    
7 episodes
(episodes 1 & 3-7 missing)    



    Season 5 (1967-68)
No    Title    
037    The Tomb of the Cybermen    
4 episodes    

038    The Abominable Snowmen    
6 episodes
(episodes 1 & 3-6 missing)    

039    The Ice Warriors    
6 episodes
(episodes 2 & 3 missing)    

040    The Enemy of the World    
6 episodes
(episodes 1-2 & 4-6 missing)    

041    The Web of Fear    
6 episodes
(episodes 2-6 missing)    

042    Fury from the Deep    
6 episodes
(all missing)    

043    The Wheel in Space    
6 episodes
(episodes 1-2 & 4-5 missing)    

   
     Season 6 (1968-69)
No    Title    
044    The Dominators        
5 episodes    

045    The Mind Robber    
5 episodes (20 mins each)    

046    The Invasion    
8 episodes
(episodes 1 & 4 missing)    

047    The Krotons    
4 episodes    

048    The Seeds of Death    
6 episodes    

049    The Space Pirates    
6 episodes
(episodes 1 & 3-6 missing)    

050    The War Games    
10 episodes    


      Third Doctor


    Season 7 (1970)
No    Title    
051    Spearhead from Space    
4 episodes    

052    Doctor Who and the Silurians
7 episodes    

053    The Ambassadors of Death
7 episodes
(Episodes 2-4 & 7 exist in black and white only)    

054    Inferno    
 7 episodes    

     Season 8 (1971)
No    Title    
055    Terror of the Autons    
4 episodes    

056    The Mind of Evil    
6 episodes
(All exist in black and white only)    

057    The Claws of Axos    
4 episodes    

058    Colony in Space    
6 episodes    

059    The Dæmons    
5 episodes    


 Season 9 (1972)
No    Title    
060    Day of the Daleks    
4 episodes    

061    The Curse of Peladon    
4 episodes    

062    The Sea Devils    
6 episodes    

063    The Mutants    
6 episodes    

064    The Time Monster    
6 episodes    


    Season 10 (1972-73)
No    Title    
065    The Three Doctors
4 episodes    

066    Carnival of Monsters
4 episodes    

067    Frontier in Space
6 episodes    

068    Planet of the Daleks
6 episodes

069    The Green Death
6 episodes    

 
   Season 11 (1973-74)
No    Title    
070    The Time Warrior
4 episodes

071    Invasion of the Dinosaurs
6 episodes
(Episode 1 exists in black and white only)