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Title: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Pak-Man on January 31, 2007, 07:02:07 PM
I know it's early, but I REALLY wanted to name the thoughts thread on this one. :^) Post 'em after you've had your chance to witness the horror and the humor blend as one.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Hank on February 01, 2007, 11:24:34 AM
This riff really brought back memories



of the half-assed Youtube MST3K attempts.

I have to say that Lowtax's delivery was really...off. So much that he almost threw off Mike's lines. To me, he and Mike just didn't jibe well. Rich's lines felt like I was watching a Mike solo riff, and someone dubbed over it with their own attempt.

I was able to sit through the whole thing, so I guess it was better than the Youtube "attempts" (Of which I couldn't sit through ten minutes worth).
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Pak-Man on February 01, 2007, 11:29:28 AM
Interesting... How have you seen it? :^)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 01, 2007, 11:59:34 AM
Fantastic. I had no idea who this Lowtax clown was, now that I know, I don't care. If Mike likes him, I'm sure he's not that bad of a guy. But does that make him a good riffer. I guess not. But, I'll find out for sure tomorrow.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Tarantulas on February 01, 2007, 12:03:45 PM
http://www.rifftrax.com/showSample.php?vidID=58 (http://www.rifftrax.com/showSample.php?vidID=58)

Linked from the "sample" thread.

I save final judgment for when I see the entire riff, but yeah, Rich has never had much of a speaking voice.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: AmandaGal on February 01, 2007, 02:59:35 PM
Just by hearing the sample, Lowtax's pitch is too similiar to Mike's for my taste. That's why I like Kevin and Bill, they both have big, distinguishable voices.  It's not that he sounds exactly like Mike, of course and I'm not so dumb I was saying, "Was that Mike or the other guy?!  I'm so confused, THE HORROR!"  But, when the lines start out, they sound a lot alike.  I'm probably the only one who thinks so and I'll probably recant after I hear the rest.

The delivery begs to be seen.  I doubt Lowtax can compete with Mike's inflection and pacing (that sounds dirty) but I should probably not judge based on 5-6 lines and I don't expect him to anyway. Mike and the others have been at this a while.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 01, 2007, 03:07:05 PM
I think you're selling yourself short Amanda. I see what you're saying. This lowtax character sounded like he was doing a Nelson impression. We'll see. Maybe it was a poor choice for a preview.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: HulkaMatt on February 01, 2007, 03:19:56 PM
Fantastic. I had no idea who this Lowtax clown was, now that I know, I don't care. If Mike likes him, I'm sure he's not that bad of a guy. But does that make him a good riffer. I guess not. But, I'll find out for sure tomorrow.

When he got back he said some of the things he said may sound a bit weird so you can expect a few lines to sound kind of off, but i'm sure either way it'll be great.

I think you're selling yourself short Amanda. I see what you're saying. This lowtax character sounded like he was doing a Nelson impression. We'll see. Maybe it was a poor choice for a preview.

Nope thats his voice lol
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Cloake on February 01, 2007, 05:07:54 PM
Obviously you shouldn't go into this expecting the exact same chemistry as with the "original 3" riffers.  Yeah, it's gonna be different.  I found the sample funny.

Even if his riffing isn't quite up to par with Mike and the others (and I'm not saying it isn't just yet), it's good for Mike to have someone to play off of.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 01, 2007, 05:10:43 PM
I like reading what all these new guys have to say. It's neat.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 01, 2007, 05:14:53 PM
Me included of course. (new guy)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 01, 2007, 06:18:23 PM
How many are from Somethingawful.com though?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 01, 2007, 06:22:16 PM
I don't know. It does sound kinda like the charity rifftrax a little, where one lucky riffer gets to read lines with Mike. I dunno. I just hope the rest of the riff is better, but I'm unsure. It just seems a little bittersweet to have one of the most requested rifftrax on here be done with a stranger, (and by stranger, I mean someone who has never riffed before, let alone heard their voice before). All I gotta say is that Mike, Kevin, & Bill better be there for RED DAWN! ;D Sorry, but I will not stop campaigning until it is done.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 01, 2007, 06:24:10 PM
so is red dawn the new troll 2 lol
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: gammer on February 01, 2007, 06:30:08 PM
so is red dawn the new troll 2 lol

Hey, we need something.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: HulkaMatt on February 01, 2007, 06:31:12 PM
How many are from Somethingawful.com though?

Probably a bunch (me being one) theres a huge thread in SA about Rifftrax and basically how great it is in the GBS forum of SA and there's about 90,000+ members alltogether.  I'm expecting it to be a funny riff :)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 01, 2007, 06:34:03 PM
so is red dawn the new troll 2 lol

It is, and my dream needs to be fulfilled. Maybe if I told Mike I had a disease....

Mike, I have ADES and I really would like you Kevin and Bill to riff the crap outta Red Dawn. ;)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: gammer on February 01, 2007, 06:35:30 PM

Mike, I have ADES and I really would like you Kevin and Bill to riff the crap outta Red Dawn. ;)

Jared?

(http://www.qwe.com/scott/secretowl/jared_subway2.jpg)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 01, 2007, 06:36:51 PM

Mike, I have ADES and I really would like you Kevin and Bill to riff the crap outta Red Dawn. ;)

Jared?

Oh, that was actually the last South Park episode I ever watched. Nice :D.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: HulkaMatt on February 01, 2007, 06:37:11 PM
I have ADES
I want a fruit juice beverage also :(
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 01, 2007, 06:38:21 PM
even though it is technically the new troll 2 i am also for it. 
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 01, 2007, 06:41:13 PM
How could anyone not be. Swayze and Sheen... AND THEY'RE BROTHERS!!! Brothers who kill Russians in the name of their football team. I don't think I'd run around spraypainting "HORNETS!"
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: MrTorso on February 01, 2007, 06:41:38 PM
so is red dawn the new troll 2 lol

Hey, we need something.

KART RACER! KART RACER!!!

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0007XG4LO.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1113110582_.jpg)


How could anyone not be. Swayze and Sheen... AND THEY'RE BROTHERS!!! Brothers who kill Russians in the name of their football team. I don't think I'd run around spraypainting "HORNETS!"


Be a Wolverine, you'll rule the hills
Just get some guns and cheerios

--Dead Kennedys



Probably a bunch (me being one) theres a huge thread in SA about Rifftrax and basically how great it is in the GBS forum of SA and there's about 90,000+ members alltogether.  I'm expecting it to be a funny riff :)

How many are active on a regular basis?? Hell if half the SA membership bought the Riff that would net rifftrax a good chunk of change!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 01, 2007, 06:51:07 PM
we will go kart after red dawn (and preferably after i get to do street fighter too)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: HulkaMatt on February 01, 2007, 06:57:38 PM

Probably a bunch (me being one) theres a huge thread in SA about Rifftrax and basically how great it is in the GBS forum of SA and there's about 90,000+ members alltogether.  I'm expecting it to be a funny riff :)

How many are active on a regular basis?? Hell if half the SA membership bought the Riff that would net rifftrax a good chunk of change!


10 every other account is owned by lowtax


well no thats an old joke and not that funny anymore

I really can't say how many but currently right at this very moment 5,697 are logged in

edit:  there are people joined all over so its not like its this low all the time I believe
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 01, 2007, 07:36:16 PM
Wow. I never did like gigantic forums. Too unfamiliar for me.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: HulkaMatt on February 01, 2007, 08:01:06 PM
Wow. I never did like gigantic forums. Too unfamiliar for me.

its pretty cool as long as you follow the rules a lot of people for some reason don't understand the ruels and wind up getting themselves banned and waste 10bux

Best 10bux I ever spent
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on February 01, 2007, 08:42:06 PM
Wow. I never did like gigantic forums. Too unfamiliar for me.

its pretty cool as long as you follow the rules a lot of people for some reason don't understand the ruels and wind up getting themselves banned and waste 10bux

Best 10bux I ever spent

Welcome to our tiny little community.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: BathTub on February 01, 2007, 10:04:07 PM
Of course hearing his voice is weird, but this was always something that was going to happen (non-mst alumni) and they had to take the plunge eventually.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: HulkaMatt on February 01, 2007, 11:19:51 PM
Wow. I never did like gigantic forums. Too unfamiliar for me.

its pretty cool as long as you follow the rules a lot of people for some reason don't understand the ruels and wind up getting themselves banned and waste 10bux

Best 10bux I ever spent

Welcome to our tiny little community.

I like this tiny little community :)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: MrTorso on February 01, 2007, 11:29:44 PM

I like this tiny little community :)

It is not a bad place at all!

Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 06:58:01 AM
10 bux? On what was the 10 bux spent?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: WouTar on February 02, 2007, 07:54:20 AM
Hehehe... he said Bux....

Fantastic. I had no idea who this Lowtax clown was, now that I know, I don't care.

Why resort to calling him a clown? I really don't get why people feel the need to bash someone who's doing a Rifftrax just because he isn't part of MST3k. I actually find it ignorant. Maybe it's funny, maybe not. Who cares. Would one bad Rifftrax mean the end of the bloody universe? Let me answer that question while I put on a monocle and open my book about quantum science. "No."

You know what? I hope he continues with this decision of unfamiliar riffers instead of just Bill and Kevin. Let's mix it up a little!

Mike knows good comedy yet... still you doubt.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: J-Proof on February 02, 2007, 09:45:14 AM
Rich is great - when he came into the office, I was still pretty unfamiliar with what he even looked like. He's probably the easiest guy to geek out with about.....anything. I haven't heard the track yet, but I am looking forward to it!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 10:05:08 AM
Would it be ignorant to assume to know how I use clown. Perhaps I call all my friends clowns. Perhaps for me clown means something different...that would mean...oh god...we're two completely different people!!!! OH LORD!!! WHAT'S THE END??? GAME OVER MAN GAME OVER!!!!

Alright I'm finished. Seriously though. I'm not adverse to guest riffers. Hell. I'm not even adverse to Mike not being there. I guess what I'm really trying to say is that different people use different adjectives differently. I wasn't trying to cut lowtax down. I don't even know the guy. I guess I have to seriously edit myself now that I'm out of the military. When I was in, I could say to a dear friend, "Hey Douchebag, could you move any slower you little girl"?? And he would have thick enough skin to know what I mean is "You are an intrigal part of this operation, and I treasure our friendship".
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: HulkaMatt on February 02, 2007, 10:20:33 AM
10 bux? On what was the 10 bux spent?

10bux registration
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 10:42:55 AM
Errr. Ummm...(lost w/o a roadmap)  Register for the Forum?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: AmandaGal on February 02, 2007, 10:52:14 AM
I think what the young'en is trying to say is that there is a registration fee of $9.95 for the Something Awful forums.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: mrbasehart on February 02, 2007, 10:57:50 AM
I just watched Troll 2 in preparation for the Rifftrax.  What a pile of shit.  It's hilarious though.  Most of the actors sound like they're just reading their lines directly from the script; the mother and daughter in the family are especially awful.  The druidic chick had me in stitches from the very first time she appeared.  Can't wait for the rifftrax! 
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: MrTorso on February 02, 2007, 11:03:54 AM
I just watched Troll 2 in preparation for the Rifftrax.  What a pile of shit.  It's hilarious though.  Most of the actors sound like they're just reading their lines directly from the script; the mother and daughter in the family are especially awful.  The druidic chick had me in stitches from the very first time she appeared.  Can't wait for the rifftrax! 

Does watching it beforehand make it a better experience?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: gammer on February 02, 2007, 11:08:09 AM
I just watched Troll 2 in preparation for the Rifftrax.  What a pile of shit.  It's hilarious though.  Most of the actors sound like they're just reading their lines directly from the script; the mother and daughter in the family are especially awful.  The druidic chick had me in stitches from the very first time she appeared.  Can't wait for the rifftrax! 

I read that the actors were just local's. This would explain the top notch abilities they had.


Does watching it beforehand make it a better experience?

You know, I've been contimplating making my re-authors with 2 audio tracks: one with RiffTrax mixed in and one with the normal movie audio.

Sometimes I would like to watch the moive 'un-riffed' the first time. Especially if I've never seen it before.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: mrbasehart on February 02, 2007, 11:08:47 AM
I just watched Troll 2 in preparation for the Rifftrax.  What a pile of shit.  It's hilarious though.  Most of the actors sound like they're just reading their lines directly from the script; the mother and daughter in the family are especially awful.  The druidic chick had me in stitches from the very first time she appeared.  Can't wait for the rifftrax! 

Does watching it beforehand make it a better experience?

Well, I decided to watch it beforehand so I could concentrate more on the trax.  I didn't watch Firewall before that rifftrax, so my attention was divided.  For me, I need to know how the movie goes for the jokes to be funnier.  I think I find that even with MST3k films.  That the second or third time I've seen the episode, it's funnier because I know the film better.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: MrTorso on February 02, 2007, 11:13:50 AM
Well, I decided to watch it beforehand so I could concentrate more on the trax.  I didn't watch Firewall before that rifftrax, so my attention was divided.  For me, I need to know how the movie goes for the jokes to be funnier.  I think I find that even with MST3k films.  That the second or third time I've seen the episode, it's funnier because I know the film better.

That's cool. So did you watch Crossroads before the trax?? OUCH! I prefer to watch him cold. Bring on the deep hurting!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: WouTar on February 02, 2007, 11:41:35 AM
Would it be ignorant to assume to know how I use clown. Perhaps I call all my friends clowns. Perhaps for me clown means something different...that would mean...oh god...we're two completely different people!!!! OH LORD!!! WHAT'S THE END??? GAME OVER MAN GAME OVER!!!! 

Ow, and yes, when you are not in the military people don't like to be called clowns. That's just common courtesy, nothing to do with thick skin.

I guess I have to seriously edit myself now that I'm out of the military. When I was in, I could say to a dear friend, "Hey Douchebag, could you move any slower you little girl"?? And he would have thick enough skin to know what I mean is "You are an intrigal part of this operation, and I treasure our friendship".

...
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 11:45:34 AM
Quote
I guess I have to seriously edit myself now that I'm out of the military. When I was in, I could say to a dear friend, "Hey Douchebag, could you move any slower you little girl"?? And he would have thick enough skin to know what I mean is "You are an intrigal part of this operation, and I treasure our friendship".


oddly enough i concur.  you douchebag
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 12:01:22 PM
I'm glad you concour wench! (translation) If I came off brash I appologize. I meant no disrespect to lowtax, or anyone else. You never get a second chance to make a first impression, which apparently sucks for me. I'm over it.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: mrbasehart on February 02, 2007, 12:03:07 PM
Well, I decided to watch it beforehand so I could concentrate more on the trax.  I didn't watch Firewall before that rifftrax, so my attention was divided.  For me, I need to know how the movie goes for the jokes to be funnier.  I think I find that even with MST3k films.  That the second or third time I've seen the episode, it's funnier because I know the film better.

That's cool. So did you watch Crossroads before the trax??

I did.  But I saw it awhile before that at the cinema.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 12:04:37 PM
what service where u in?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 12:05:54 PM
The Army. It was fun...in a way I haven't quite figured out yet.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 12:06:23 PM
just 4 years?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: MrTorso on February 02, 2007, 12:08:00 PM

I did.  But I saw it awhile before that at the cinema.


Again I say....OUCH! Braver man than I!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 12:10:53 PM
It was a brief but bitter affair the Army and I had. I seem to do things in fours. HS four years. Had one job, four years. Army, Four years. Now I'm a security guard. We'll see how that lasts.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: mrbasehart on February 02, 2007, 12:14:25 PM

I did.  But I saw it awhile before that at the cinema.


Again I say....OUCH! Braver man than I!

I got paid for it.   ;)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 12:14:35 PM
ah i see.  well cool and good on ya.  
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 02, 2007, 12:28:35 PM
It's up! Go get it!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: MrTorso on February 02, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
Yeah yeah!!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: MarkAndrew on February 02, 2007, 12:37:00 PM
It's up! Go get it!

I see you're changed your shopping cart procedure.  How...jarring.  I'll post in the tech support thread.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 12:39:52 PM
Yay! I got it Demuxed and ready to go. All I have to do is sync, take out disembaudios lines and Re author!!!! HIKEEBA!!!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 12:40:46 PM
i wouldnt post stuff like that unless you want to earn the ire of one mean toaster. 
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 12:42:50 PM
Oh yeah. Well. I'm not too worried. Mike says he's "like" god, but without all that pesky judgement. Maybe he's a friendly god.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 12:50:25 PM
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Maybe he's a friendly god



lol now we KNOW your new
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 12:53:05 PM
He does know how to get his hands on some pretty mean weaponry.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Rude on February 02, 2007, 01:44:03 PM
You know, I've been contimplating making my re-authors with 2 audio tracks: one with RiffTrax mixed in and one with the normal movie audio.
Sometimes I would like to watch the moive 'un-riffed' the first time. Especially if I've never seen it before.

I always put the extra audio track on my reauthored DVDs. I just like having the option to watch the film sans commentary, even if it's just to hear one line from a scene or whatever. Sometimes it's hard to hear over the jokes. And, like quite a few people around here... i think it usually makes for a better Rifftrax experience if i've either seen the film before, or i'm really familiar with the plot.

-Rude
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 02:07:09 PM
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i think it usually makes for a better Rifftrax experience if i've either seen the film before, or i'm really familiar with the plot.
seconded although i didnt have a problem with point break
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Hank on February 02, 2007, 02:40:12 PM
Ow, and yes, when you are not in the military people don't like to be called clowns. That's just common courtesy, nothing to do with thick skin.

Lighten up, Francis.


I believe that lowtax is an adult (don't quote me), so he can either defend himself or cry himself to sleep on his own. I'm sure that "clown" is among the nicer things that he's been called.  ;D

If the worst thing going on is someone calling you a clown on a message board, count yourself lucky.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 02:42:14 PM
yeah WHAT DO YOU GOT AGAINST CLOWNS ANYWAYS :)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 03:10:07 PM
Halfway thru...weeze...pant...good god...this movie...pant...weeze...is bad...
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 03:10:57 PM
lol must be terrible.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 03:20:41 PM
Lowtax called a character a douchebag!! Life is good!!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Wiseblood on February 02, 2007, 03:27:09 PM
That movie was painful.  Literally, I'm in pain right now.

Lowtax did a decent job I thought.  Though he flubbed the "AWOOGA!" sound.


Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: WouTar on February 02, 2007, 03:35:57 PM
Ow, and yes, when you are not in the military people don't like to be called clowns. That's just common courtesy, nothing to do with thick skin.

Lighten up, Francis.


I believe that lowtax is an adult (don't quote me), so he can either defend himself or cry himself to sleep on his own. I'm sure that "clown" is among the nicer things that he's been called.  ;D

If the worst thing going on is someone calling you a clown on a message board, count yourself lucky.

I'm just saying, don't ever call ME a goddamn clown.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ac/Pennywiseclown.JPG/250px-Pennywiseclown.JPG)

And I'm not "defending" lowtax. I just don't feel you need to call people stupid, infantile names and trying to make a point by doing so.

Or maybe I'm just being a whiny bitch... but I really don't think so.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Pak-Man on February 02, 2007, 03:40:55 PM
You can call ME a clown! I'll even learn to juggle!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 03:41:53 PM
Did you just call yourself a stupid, infantile name to prove your point?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 03:43:33 PM
sigh


So uh troll 2 eh
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 03:45:25 PM
You're right. I'm dropping it. Ow. My toe.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 02, 2007, 03:46:05 PM
"You hurt my wife!"

(Troll 2 riff quote)

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Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 03:52:51 PM
Magic stone rant. Not bad!
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Post by: Bob on February 02, 2007, 03:52:53 PM
Hey now, some clowns

(http://davepics.com/Misc/John_Wayne_Gacy.jpg)

are worse than others

(http://www.tvsquad.com/images/2005/06/ronaldmcdonald.jpg)
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Post by: Janitor on February 02, 2007, 04:07:20 PM
Oooh. Oooh. I hurt here. And here. I hurt. I...uhh...oooh. Wow. Just wow. There's no way I could have watched that movie w/o the riff. And yet. It wasn't as bad as BE. Huh. I'm going to watch the episodes of Poker Night again. That'll help.
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Post by: FredFlak on February 02, 2007, 06:00:35 PM
That was a great one. :)

My new favorite in fact, there is nothing like an horrible movie like this for some great riffing. And they are right, time has not been kind to the ewoks.
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Post by: MrTorso on February 02, 2007, 06:13:57 PM
Not a bad Riff. Lowtax had some good lines although his delivery on some was a little stilted. Lots of great screen cap potential for my cover.
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Post by: 6079SmithW on February 02, 2007, 08:19:14 PM
Oh, wow, this is one of the best ones I've seen in a while. I never really liked the idea of doing Troll 2 before, but in retrospect, it was perfect rifftrax fodder: competently enough shot to follow what was going on, but absolutely, hilariously, ridiculously awful performances, script, and makeup.

I thought Lowtax fit in perfectly well; he didn't seem to have as distinct a voice as Kevin or Bill, but if I had been coming into this blind I wouldn't have thought he was stunt casting, either. I'd be very curious to know how involved he was with the writing process.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 08:29:46 PM
Quote
I'd be very curious to know how involved he was with the writing process.

me too
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Post by: torgosPizza on February 02, 2007, 08:44:28 PM
Lowtax wrote the intro, and a segment starting around 45 minutes in.

Mike wrote the part in between and around it.

I wrote one of the pauses, Conor and Uncle Rufus helped out with punctuation.

Mike wrote something for the second half.

Lowtax knocked Mike unconscious and continued the process.

Disembaudio came into the room, spilling coffee on the entire thing, ruining it.

Mike woke up and Lowtax told him what happened. They banded together and formed a two-man special forces team, infiltrating the Mainframe Hive where Disembaudio recharges. They inserted a program into his neural net, that when he came out of Sleep Mode the next day, would force him to continuously make coffee and rewrite the entire script from scratch.

When it was finished, Lowtax put his name on it. Mike crossed it off and put his, and then it was done.

He was QUITE involved.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 08:46:34 PM
damn it even I cant figure out where the sarcasm begins or ends there
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Post by: SaucyRossy on February 02, 2007, 08:50:11 PM
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I'd be very curious to know how involved he was with the writing process.

me too


It came out of the writing room.....it doesn't matter....
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 02, 2007, 08:54:23 PM
that phrase only applied to mst3k when they have been there a bunch.  I guess i was more interested to know that he was in fact part of it at all. 
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Post by: WaffleTron on February 02, 2007, 09:11:46 PM
Without a doubt my favorite Rifftrax so far. I've seen Roadhouse, Star Trek V, X-Men, The Matrix, Episode I, Nestor, Daredevil, and this and hands down, this wins.

It may have been the excitment that built up after months and months of requesting and hoping they actually did this movie and finally hearing them do it, but I think it was more that it actually WAS really good.  Rich did a fantastic job, anyone who says otherwise is simply bias towards the MST crew.  Did I wonder what it would have been like if Kevin and/or Bill joined Mike, yeah, but I also didn't think it could be that much better than it turned out.

To be totally honest, I think I prefer Mike and Rich to Mike and Kevin.  Obviously the best scenerio is having Mike, Kev, and Bill, but if it's just gonna be 2 I think I'd want it to be Mike and Bill or Mike and Rich... nothing against Kevin.  I may be alone on that one.
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Post by: Wiseblood on February 02, 2007, 09:15:22 PM
that phrase only applied to mst3k when they have been there a bunch.  I guess i was more interested to know that he was in fact part of it at all. 

Well, some bits like the jokes about the song mom "liked so much" and the joke about the magic Stonehenge stone sounded similar to what Lowtax wrote in his review.  I think the "Uwe Boll presents Uwe Boll's Donkey Kong" bit was his too.



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Post by: 6079SmithW on February 02, 2007, 09:21:44 PM
that phrase only applied to mst3k when they have been there a bunch.  I guess i was more interested to know that he was in fact part of it at all. 

Well, some bits like the jokes about the song mom "liked so much" and the joke about the magic Stonehenge stone sounded similar to what Lowtax wrote in his review.  I think the "Uwe Boll presents Uwe Boll's Donkey Kong" bit was his too.




There were definitely a few jokes that seemed tonally to be Lowtax jokes, and I'm sure he was involved in some way with the writing process, but honestly the rifftrax process in general seems a deep mystery to me. Perhaps every iteration is actually just Mike, doing voices and growing increasingly schizophrenic.
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Post by: WaffleTron on February 02, 2007, 09:22:14 PM
how many people here got the Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom joke?  hahaha Lowtax picking on an obscure NES game = priceless.
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Post by: WaffleTron on February 02, 2007, 09:23:52 PM
not to mention hearing Mike and Rich mention the Wii makes the gamer/MSTie in me unite in one big goop of happiness.
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Post by: FrensaGeran on February 02, 2007, 10:15:49 PM
Maybe I came into the rifftrax with low expectations, since I came here before I watched it and noticed a few disappointed comments, or I dunno...but wow. This rifftrax was amazing. Hilarious all the way through. No dry spots. I saw some people comment on Rich's line delivery and, maybe I'm an idiot, but I didn't notice. He was great. He was funny, and Mike was in greater form than I've ever heard him.

To everyone on the fence about this rifftrax: Get off the damn fence and enter the magical world of NILBOG!

9/10
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Post by: SaucyRossy on February 02, 2007, 10:20:57 PM
Wow it is great to see how so many people love it so far....I wish my dvd had shipped in time.
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Post by: BBQ Platypus on February 02, 2007, 10:45:36 PM
Lowtax wrote the intro, and a segment starting around 45 minutes in.

Mike wrote the part in between and around it.

I wrote one of the pauses, Conor and Uncle Rufus helped out with punctuation.

Mike wrote something for the second half.

Lowtax knocked Mike unconscious and continued the process.

Disembaudio came into the room, spilling coffee on the entire thing, ruining it.

Mike woke up and Lowtax told him what happened.

I can envision that exchange right now.

Mike: I'm sorry, Lowtax, but sometimes these things just happen.

(Lowtax freaks out and begins cursing and generally spazzing)

Mike: Richard, calm down.  Richard....what are you doing!?

Disembaudio: Whoa!  Put me down!  I don't like that look on his face, Mike!  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

(Lowtax throws Disembaudio through the $30,000 soundproof glass, shattering it)

Mike: Lowtax!  What the hell did you do that for!?

Lowtax: (sarcastically) I'm sorry, Mike, but sometimes these things just happen!




(20,000 Ubergeek points to anyone who knows where I got that from).
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Post by: FBX on February 02, 2007, 11:20:43 PM
So you say a theater actually willingly paid to show this movie?

The witch was quite the drama class A+ student.

Overall I'd say not the best rifftrax, but it did get me to laugh a bit which is pretty good considering I'm getting to where I can predict the humor. Both Mike and Lowtax had great lines, but Mike definately has more practice with delivery, as well as speaking into a microphone. Overall I'd say lowtax dwelled a little too much on riffing how bad the movie was, as well as "where are the trolls", but then again looking at the movie, what else can you do when it meanders around the 60% - 95% mark.

I'd welcome Rich back again, with practice he could become one kick-ass riffer.
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Post by: 6079SmithW on February 02, 2007, 11:38:24 PM
Lowtax wrote the intro, and a segment starting around 45 minutes in.

Mike wrote the part in between and around it.

I wrote one of the pauses, Conor and Uncle Rufus helped out with punctuation.

Mike wrote something for the second half.

Lowtax knocked Mike unconscious and continued the process.

Disembaudio came into the room, spilling coffee on the entire thing, ruining it.

Mike woke up and Lowtax told him what happened.

I can envision that exchange right now.

Mike: I'm sorry, Lowtax, but sometimes these things just happen.

(Lowtax freaks out and begins cursing and generally spazzing)

Mike: Richard, calm down.  Richard....what are you doing!?

Disembaudio: Whoa!  Put me down!  I don't like that look on his face, Mike!  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

(Lowtax throws Disembaudio through the $30,000 soundproof glass, shattering it)

Mike: Lowtax!  What the hell did you do that for!?

Lowtax: (sarcastically) I'm sorry, Mike, but sometimes these things just happen!




(20,000 Ubergeek points to anyone who knows where I got that from).
Did... did you know that "sometime these things just happen" is pretty close to a minor SL catchphrase? What have you been told? What do you know!
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Post by: Minnesota on February 03, 2007, 12:33:26 AM
I'm going to watch the episodes of Poker Night again. That'll help.
nice choice

(also, haven't gotten my copy of troll 2 yet, but I've seen the movie several times on tv and its god awful so this should be a good trax)
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Post by: Yarg on February 03, 2007, 02:09:23 AM
I loved it too. There was just so much in this movie to make fun of. Find more dreck like this and recommend it to Rifftrax!
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Post by: Janitor on February 03, 2007, 04:47:32 AM
Did anyone else notice lowtax had kind of a Peter Brady voice cracking thing happening?(http://www.catheroo.com/images/photos/chris.jpg)
I thought it was endearing.
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Post by: Bob on February 03, 2007, 06:17:28 AM
As a Cardinal fan, I was happy to hear the "He's so ugly, he's Willie McGee ugly" quip.   Think I will go put on my Willie McGee jersey now for the rest of the day.

   
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Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 03, 2007, 08:17:20 AM
I really don't know much about this Lowtax guy, but if Mike is involved, I'll watch anything.
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Post by: Hank on February 03, 2007, 09:18:02 AM
I still have to say that it was the worst rifftrax (track?) so far, for my previous reasons. It didn't help that this was one of the most cringe-worthy riffed films since Manos, or Merlin's yadda yadda yadda.
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Post by: lowtax on February 03, 2007, 09:51:59 AM
I still have to say that it was the worst rifftrax (track?) so far, for my previous reasons. It didn't help that this was one of the most cringe-worthy riffed films since Manos, or Merlin's yadda yadda yadda.
Come on now, we're trying to do the good cop / bad cop routine here.  Mike has the silky smooth vocals.  My voice sounds like testicles in a blender.  Mike has references to obscure actors and "words with multiple syllables."  I have gay jokes.  Mike looks like a normal human being.  I'm some sort of animated scarecrow trapped in a windstorm.  How can you not appreciate this artistic synergy?
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 09:53:40 AM
WHOA the man himself speaks and what not.  Congrats on the track i have to hear ;)  How was the party and also the party cleanup mr tax?
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Post by: MrTorso on February 03, 2007, 09:55:22 AM
I still have to say that it was the worst rifftrax (track?) so far, for my previous reasons. It didn't help that this was one of the most cringe-worthy riffed films since Manos, or Merlin's yadda yadda yadda.
Come on now, we're trying to do the good cop / bad cop routine here.  Mike has the silky smooth vocals.  My voice sounds like testicles in a blender.  Mike has references to obscure actors and "words with multiple syllables."  I have gay jokes.  Mike looks like a normal human being.  I'm some sort of animated scarecrow trapped in a windstorm.  How can you not appreciate this artistic synergy?

I liked it better than I thought I would, you just need to get some "boom" in your voice.
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Post by: lowtax on February 03, 2007, 09:57:39 AM
WHOA the man himself speaks and what not.  Congrats on the track i have to hear ;)  How was the party and also the party cleanup mr tax?
It went very well, it seemed like everybody had a good time.  No real cleanup; goons may be socially awkward, but they're almost always very polite and well mannered.  Also Tarantulas wasn't as psychotic as I expected; he was a good guy with a fun sense of humor.  I guess the Internet just makes you act odd sometimes!
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 10:00:16 AM
me i try to act odd all the time ;)  Glad it went well and that your domicile wasnt trashed in a goonish frenzy.  It would be cool for me to go to one of these rifftrax meets but it just wont be plausible for quite sometime. 
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Post by: lowtax on February 03, 2007, 10:00:48 AM
I liked it better than I thought I would, you just need to get some "boom" in your voice.
I've (obviously) never taken any voice lessons before, and don't know crap about speaking besides the fact that your mouth is somehow involved in it.  If and when we do the next one, I'll be more conscious of my voice and try to do a better job.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 10:01:53 AM
I would like to see you riff on one of the more mainstream ones personally, just to see the contrast
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Post by: lowtax on February 03, 2007, 10:08:15 AM
I would like to see you riff on one of the more mainstream ones personally, just to see the contrast
I'd rather take the crummy, un-mainstream movies, to differentiate myself from the traditional MST3k riffing crew.  I can't really compete with Kevin and Co., so it might be better if I would be given the movies the MST3k crew wouldn't normally perform on Rifftrax.
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Post by: WaffleTron on February 03, 2007, 10:10:32 AM
well Lowtax, quite some time ago I was reading your movie reviews and actually went out to rent "The Stuff".  I'm not sure if you remember that gem, but it was about this marshmellowy food that killed people when they ate it... yeah, that was classic.  i'd love to see you and mike take that one on, but i have a feeling that will never EVER be on DVD.  After the pain and suffering us Troll 2 fans had to deal with for even suggesting they do a B-movie on Rifftrax, I don't think it'll happen again for a while now. 

In any case, good job on the rifftrack.  Was Mike fun to work with?  And as some people here were wondering, how involved were you really with the writing?
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 10:15:13 AM
You dont have to compete with them you just got to do your own thing.  While i assume that is usually B movies you it might be neat to just see how well you do with one ;)  just my 2 cents
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Post by: TheRealJon on February 03, 2007, 10:16:13 AM
I thought Lowtax was a nice fit, which I honestly did not expect whatsoever.  Hope to see you in another upcoming one.

You did good man, well worth purchasing this one.
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Post by: torgosPizza on February 03, 2007, 10:22:43 AM
Sarcasm, congrats on your 2000th post!  :P
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Post by: BathTub on February 03, 2007, 10:24:39 AM
I still have to say that it was the worst rifftrax (track?) so far, for my previous reasons. It didn't help that this was one of the most cringe-worthy riffed films since Manos, or Merlin's yadda yadda yadda.

Yeah but you already said that before it was even released, so why should it mean anything now?
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Post by: Bob on February 03, 2007, 10:25:22 AM
I thought this was a hilarious rifftrax and Rick and Mike sounded pretty natural together.   The movie itself was not Manos bad; Troll2 was bad on a different "hey, anyone can make a movie level".   Very happy with this effort.

I just wished that I was closer to Lee's Summitt (hmmm, growing up in STL I NEVER thought that before) so I could have ground pizza into Rich's floor and spilled beer (on his cloth seats).  

Anything from the "Joe Estevez" library would be a nice follow up.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 10:25:32 AM
LOL i didnt even notice,  thanks man.  

makes me wonder what the hell ive been doing the last couple days, i think i was on 1400 on monday lol
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Post by: torgosPizza on February 03, 2007, 10:28:47 AM
LOL i didnt even notice,  thanks man. 

makes me wonder what the hell ive been doing the last couple days, i think i was on 1400 on monday lol

Well I remember a few "eh"'s and a lot of meaningless posts to raise your post count. That could've been part of it. :P
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 10:30:27 AM
well its not like ive been tracking them, ive just got nothing better to do for 10 hours a day while im attached to a computer,  where else would i be.
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Post by: Conor on February 03, 2007, 11:29:49 AM
I still have to say that it was the worst rifftrax (track?) so far, for my previous reasons. It didn't help that this was one of the most cringe-worthy riffed films since Manos, or Merlin's yadda yadda yadda.

Yeah but you already said that before it was even released, so why should it mean anything now?

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/125/bookrevzingvq7.gif)
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Post by: MrTorso on February 03, 2007, 11:30:49 AM
I liked it better than I thought I would, you just need to get some "boom" in your voice.
I've (obviously) never taken any voice lessons before, and don't know crap about speaking besides the fact that your mouth is somehow involved in it.  If and when we do the next one, I'll be more conscious of my voice and try to do a better job.

I guess its a matter of projection. It seemed like sometimes you might have been further away from the mic or a little soft spoken.
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Post by: SaucyRossy on February 03, 2007, 11:42:44 AM
WHOA the man himself speaks and what not.  Congrats on the track i have to hear ;)  How was the party and also the party cleanup mr tax?
It went very well, it seemed like everybody had a good time.  No real cleanup; goons may be socially awkward, but they're almost always very polite and well mannered.  Also Tarantulas wasn't as psychotic as I expected; he was a good guy with a fun sense of humor.  I guess the Internet just makes you act odd sometimes!

I can't believe that Tarantula's went! It's great that everything was cool between you guys! Also that is so great of you to open up your house to people for a viewing party. I haven't watched the Rifftrax yet, I was supposed to watch it tonight at a friends house with like 16 people but Deep Discount dvd failed me and it hasn't gotten here in time. Congrats again Lowtax!
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Post by: Minnesota on February 03, 2007, 12:36:11 PM
I'd rather take the crummy, un-mainstream movies, to differentiate myself from the traditional MST3k riffing crew.  I can't really compete with Kevin and Co., so it might be better if I would be given the movies the MST3k crew wouldn't normally perform on Rifftrax.

Might I humbly suggest that you go see Mimic 2 and get back to me on your thoughts for a potential riff ... please ... I'd be forever gratefull, also thanks for riffing troll 2, it needed it!
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Post by: mrbakasan on February 03, 2007, 02:13:40 PM
I'd rather take the crummy, un-mainstream movies, to differentiate myself from the traditional MST3k riffing crew.  I can't really compete with Kevin and Co., so it might be better if I would be given the movies the MST3k crew wouldn't normally perform on Rifftrax.

I think that's awesome.  Hopefully, we'll get to see more crappy movies down the line like Abraxis and Gymkata. 
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Post by: 6079SmithW on February 03, 2007, 02:56:56 PM
My one complaint about this is that I wound up paying $15 for the DVD out of impatience, whereas newer, better movies can be found for $5-$10 in stores and cheaper still online. I know that's not rifftrax's fault, but it does seem wrong to pay nearly $20 for a Troll 2 experience.
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Post by: MrCyNic on February 03, 2007, 03:39:09 PM
Personally, I had a slightly hard time getting into this one.

The riff itself was certainly entertaining, and I thought Lowtax (whom I'll now always think of as Lowtrax in recognition of his work on this) did a good job of establishing his credibility. The film, however, was just so depressing that I found it difficult to settle into watching it.

Troll 2, more than any other trax, brought home to me the fundamental difference between MST3K and Rifftrax. As an MST3K episode, where there are regular escapes from the movies, this would have been a lot easier for me to sit through - Hobgoblins being the most obvious comparison to my mind.

For me, I suspect the Rifftrax format just isn't so well suited to films that aim this low (should any be found).

That said, the addition of a new riffer (albeit one I was only dimly aware of from the whole Uwe Boll thing) has served to further open up the Rifftrax format. I'm certainly less apprehensive about new guest riffers than I was before.

Cheers,

Cy.
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Post by: Fuzzy Necromancer on February 03, 2007, 06:21:06 PM
I have trouble distinguishing Lowtax from Eliot. However, I imagine that only the dark lord of a website such as somethingawful.com would be willing to sit with mike through this excercise of cinematic massicism.
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Post by: Hank on February 03, 2007, 06:57:57 PM
Yeah but you already said that before it was even released, so why should it mean anything now?
By the same token, why should anything posted on a message board mean anything now, then, or later?

Just posting my 2 (1 for the first post, 1 for the second). This one is no cents.

Zing, indeed  ::)
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 03, 2007, 07:02:19 PM
Quote
By the same token, why should anything posted on a message board mean anything now, then, or later

And thus we have my name.
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Post by: SaucyRossy on February 03, 2007, 07:14:13 PM
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2307226&pagenumber=5


Pictures of the event at Lowtrax's house......
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Post by: Tyrant on February 03, 2007, 11:51:10 PM

  Oh man. This one hurt. It hurt bad. Probably the single worst movie I've ever seen in my entire life.

  I thought the riffing was excellent. Lowtax did a good job keeping with up with Mike. All the naysayers need to remember that Mike's had years of riffing experience, Lowtax probably not as much. I thought they were dead on. Yeah, not the same as having Kevin or Bill with him, but it's a different gear to switch into, much the same as when Mike goes solo after we're used to him teaming up with the old gang.

  So, the movie.....WOW. To everyone who wanted Troll 2, thanks a lot. (I'm not sure if I'm being sarcastic or not).
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Post by: Pak-Man on February 03, 2007, 11:54:43 PM
You know, after watching Troll 2, I no longer think Battlefield Earth was a horrible movie. Dr. Moreau was a beautifully acted movie that made perfect sense, and I long for the sweet, sweet embrace of Brittany Spears' acting talent.

This was a good choice of a movie to introduce a guest-riffer. Riffing Troll 2 is like shooting fish on a barrel. It's a good movie for the new guy to cut his teeth on. I was wary and skeptical of Lowtax's ability to Riff, but after watching this 'trax, I think he's got the chops for it. Battlefield Earth is a hard act to follow, but I really enjoyed this Rifftrax.

And to everyone who shouted this movie's name out in unrelated conversations and pressed so hard to get this movie riffed, I want to thank all of you (But can really only thank the one or two that stuck around to read this post. :^))
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Post by: Pak-Man on February 03, 2007, 11:57:44 PM
how many people here got the Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom joke?  hahaha Lowtax picking on an obscure NES game = priceless.

I caught it! :^) I also caught the very awesome and subtle Skate or Die reference.
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Post by: WaffleTron on February 04, 2007, 12:06:23 AM
oh man, and the 'thats the power of love' song mike had when joshua was on the skateboard, hahaha.  so totally NOT marty mcfly.  just stumbling on how to even stay on the skateboard.  this may be the 2nd rifftrax i rewatch or the 1st i show my friends.
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Post by: MrTorso on February 04, 2007, 12:14:42 AM
I dug the "Power of Love" riff too.
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Post by: ambitiously stupid on February 04, 2007, 12:34:46 AM
I laughed more during this rifftrax than any others.  I thought lowtax was really funny and blended in well with Mike.  Sure I am biased because I wanted to see this one so bad.  But I really laughed my head off on this one. This riff more than lived up to all the expectations I had.  My favorite line was the Willie McGee reference.  So obscure and totally priceless.
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Post by: Qrusher14242 on February 04, 2007, 02:55:39 AM
i loved the 'Duh heard round the world' riff

Also the Axe effect riff too lol
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Post by: Digger Smolkin on February 04, 2007, 04:28:53 AM
Loved it. For his first effort, the boy Lowtax did good. In fact, his style of speaking and delivery reminded me of someone, and after wracking my brains, I think I know who it is: Demetri Martin. Which is, of course, A Good Thing.
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Post by: Bob on February 04, 2007, 06:45:20 AM
I laughed more during this rifftrax than any others.  I thought lowtax was really funny and blended in well with Mike.  Sure I am biased because I wanted to see this one so bad.  But I really laughed my head off on this one. This riff more than lived up to all the expectations I had.  My favorite line was the Willie McGee reference.  So obscure and totally priceless.

I wonder how many non-baseball fans got the McGee reference?   

(http://www.penguinphysics.com/images/Cardinal%20Pics/Players/Willie%20McGee.jpg)
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Post by: Natureboy on February 04, 2007, 07:58:04 AM
Excellent first effort for Lowtax.  I thought I detected a little bit of nervousness, but that is understandable.

The only thing that Lowtax should never have done was the impersonation of the Goblin Queen in that grating, mock female voice......That was somethingawful....(insert rimshot here).  Other than that, I thought he did great.

But, a solid overall performance.

Best Lowtax line:  I see that he has Twigmata.
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Post by: mrbasehart on February 04, 2007, 09:39:03 AM
I just saw the trax and have to admit, I'm a little disappointed.  I don't think it's a problem with Lowtax riffing the movie (I thought he had several excellent lines), but rather a lack of chemistry between the two riffers.  I hope it's something that will come with time and future riffs.

On Lowtax's voice: I think if you digitize how voice, it would sound a lot like Disembaudios.   :)
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Post by: lowtax on February 04, 2007, 10:27:47 AM
I wonder how many non-baseball fans got the McGee reference?   

Pound for pound, Melido Perez is 47 tons uglier than Willie McGee.  Somebody find a photo of his 1988 Donruss card.  He looks like a Street Shark.
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Post by: WaffleTron on February 04, 2007, 10:38:54 AM
wow, i thought i was the only one who heard some demetri martin in his delivery.  makes me wonder how well he'd be at riffing.  he's pretty good with observational humor, but i dunno if he has the personality for it.
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Post by: Bob on February 04, 2007, 12:16:59 PM
I wonder how many non-baseball fans got the McGee reference?   

Pound for pound, Melido Perez is 47 tons uglier than Willie McGee.  Somebody find a photo of his 1988 Donruss card.  He looks like a Street Shark.

(http://www.beckett.com/images/pgitems/698820101.jpg)


(http://dee-nee.com/wiki/images/1/11/McGeeLookalike.JPG)

Sorry Rich, Willie is the least handsome of the two.   Of course, Willie is also one of the NICEST guys on the planet, so i really should not say anything.
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Post by: ambitiously stupid on February 04, 2007, 02:59:02 PM
Now if you put Melido and his brother Pascual Perez up against Willie McGee than maybe you top Willie.
Go to this page and scroll down to October 13, 2006 and you will see a very goblin like card of Pascual.
http://baseballcardblog.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_baseballcardblog_archive.html
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Post by: 6079SmithW on February 04, 2007, 03:41:31 PM
wow, i thought i was the only one who heard some demetri martin in his delivery.  makes me wonder how well he'd be at riffing.  he's pretty good with observational humor, but i dunno if he has the personality for it.
It's not quite riffing, but he did commentary for the fourth season box set of Home Movies, so if nothing else he's capable of sitting in a recording booth and talking while watching something.
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Post by: gammer on February 04, 2007, 05:25:06 PM
My Take (http://www.rifftraxfan.com) is now posted
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Post by: Rufus T on February 04, 2007, 10:34:20 PM
 I thought it was quite funny. I had read Lowtax's review before the rifftrax was released. I also saw the movie before I read Lowtax's review. I thought they did a fine job of tearing the movie a new one. It's not my favorite rifftrax, but it is defintely a good one.

 p.s. if there are any errors in this message then please take into account that I was drunk while writing it. beer was a must after viewing Troll 2.
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Post by: torgosPizza on February 04, 2007, 10:50:21 PM

 p.s. if there are any errors in this message then please take into account that I was drunk while writing it. beer was a must after viewing Troll 2.

Before, during and after, my friend.
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Post by: Rufus T on February 04, 2007, 10:58:54 PM

 p.s. if there are any errors in this message then please take into account that I was drunk while writing it. beer was a must after viewing Troll 2.

Before, during and after, my friend.

 I'm glad you understand. The performance of the "goth schoolteacher" made me want to down a bottle of Jack Daniels. But I didn't have that, so I drank alot of Samuel Adams.
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Post by: 6079SmithW on February 05, 2007, 02:49:15 AM
Having just watched it a second time, I would like to point out that this movie is remarkably competently shot. Honestly, compare it to and Ed Wood movie, or some of the other lower end MST3K, and it is rife with visual interest; the camera is not static, it doesn't cut much more often than is necessary, and the colors are bright and never oppressive. I've seen good movies that looked a lot worse.

What makes this remarkable, of course, is the production design, script, and acting, all of which were well below the average local high school play.

Speaking of which, did anyone ever notice there's a certain tone of voice bad high school drama kids always adopt when acting? It's this strange, completely unnatural, high tone, almost sing-song and really irritating once you notice it. The sister exemplifies it, especially in her speech to the boyfriend in the beginning.

Also, the sheriff looked remarkably like my grandmother, which I found very disturbing.
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Post by: BathTub on February 05, 2007, 05:44:44 AM
WTH

OMG

JEEEZ

AARRGH

I think the forum for should suggestion priviledges for a few months for making people watch that.

<scrubs eyes with a wire brush>


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Post by: Bob on February 05, 2007, 05:56:36 AM
Having just watched it a second time, I would like to point out that this movie is remarkably competently shot. Honestly, compare it to and Ed Wood movie, or some of the other lower end MST3K, and it is rife with visual interest; the camera is not static, it doesn't cut much more often than is necessary, and the colors are bright and never oppressive. I've seen good movies that looked a lot worse.

What makes this remarkable, of course, is the production design, script, and acting, all of which were well below the average local high school play.

Speaking of which, did anyone ever notice there's a certain tone of voice bad high school drama kids always adopt when acting? It's this strange, completely unnatural, high tone, almost sing-song and really irritating once you notice it. The sister exemplifies it, especially in her speech to the boyfriend in the beginning.

Also, the sheriff looked remarkably like my grandmother, which I found very disturbing.

Wow, I thought the same thing too.

Speaking of movies that were shot well but sucked, check out "The Devil's Rain".   I was at my parents house and their HD package was FINALLY installed and I showed them the HD Monster channel, we were about to change channels when we saw who was in The Devil's Rain..... Shatner and Eddie Albert.   It even had Tom Skerrit in it!   We had to watch.

The movie was, pointless, plotless and horrid.   But, the cinematogrophy in it was GORGEOUS.   Every shot was done well, there were lots of interesting set ups for the camera, things up close were in focus and so were things in back.   It was a fantastic job.   Too bad he had to waste it on that film.
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Post by: bryanjbusch on February 05, 2007, 05:57:20 AM
My wife and I laughed a lot at this movie and at the accompanying commentary. Definitely in my Top 3 Rifftrax so far!
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Post by: DoctorZ on February 05, 2007, 08:49:40 AM
Definitely the worst movie, acting wise, in the current Rifftrax Pantheon.  Anyone considering producing a Cinema Verite production a.k. "The Blair Witch" project should be forced to watch this film to see what they probably would come up with.  That said, I have to agree that the production quality of this film was pretty good... and the riffing was fine.  I enjoyed it.
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Post by: MarkAndrew on February 05, 2007, 09:29:36 AM
Ah, what a stinkburger.

If ever a movies deserved to be on MST, it's this one.  I'm so glad Mike riffed it.

Oh, and the annoying, scenery DEVOURING goth witch...yeah, I'd hit that.
In fact, I think I have.  I wonder if she lived in Everett, Washington in the 90's.
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Post by: David on February 05, 2007, 09:41:08 AM
Speaking of which, did anyone ever notice there's a certain tone of voice bad high school drama kids always adopt when acting? It's this strange, completely unnatural, high tone, almost sing-song and really irritating once you notice it. The sister exemplifies it, especially in her speech to the boyfriend in the beginning.

Thank you! You summed that up so well. All I could think to myself during her "performance" was "High school drama!"
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Post by: torgosPizza on February 05, 2007, 09:42:42 AM
Oh, and the annoying, scenery DEVOURING goth witch...yeah, I'd hit that.
In fact, I think I have.  I wonder if she lived in Everett, Washington in the 90's.

What you mean to say is, "She can warm up my corn cob until it pops any day!"
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Post by: Pak-Man on February 05, 2007, 09:56:19 AM
Typically, popcorn comes from the cob. Not the walls. :^)

Even if the corn HAD come from the cob, it was still one of the strangest things I've ever seen. :^)
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Post by: PlayMSTie on February 05, 2007, 10:31:16 AM
Having just watched it a second time, I would like to point out that this movie is remarkably competently shot. Honestly, compare it to and Ed Wood movie, or some of the other lower end MST3K, and it is rife with visual interest; the camera is not static, it doesn't cut much more often than is necessary, and the colors are bright and never oppressive. I've seen good movies that looked a lot worse.

What makes this remarkable, of course, is the production design, script, and acting, all of which were well below the average local high school play.

Speaking of which, did anyone ever notice there's a certain tone of voice bad high school drama kids always adopt when acting? It's this strange, completely unnatural, high tone, almost sing-song and really irritating once you notice it. The sister exemplifies it, especially in her speech to the boyfriend in the beginning.

Also, the sheriff looked remarkably like my grandmother, which I found very disturbing.

Wow, I thought the same thing too.


She looked like your grandmother too?? Wow, weird. ;)
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Post by: MarkAndrew on February 05, 2007, 12:45:05 PM
Oh, and the annoying, scenery DEVOURING goth witch...yeah, I'd hit that.
In fact, I think I have.  I wonder if she lived in Everett, Washington in the 90's.

What you mean to say is, "She can warm up my corn cob until it pops any day!"

Ow, ow, that hurt.  And seriously, what was up with that Corn?  I had Dr. Weird from ATHF in my head the entire time
"Gentlemen!  Behold!  Corn!"
"Then Let the mating begin!"
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Post by: Pak-Man on February 05, 2007, 12:53:08 PM
Oh, and the annoying, scenery DEVOURING goth witch...yeah, I'd hit that.
In fact, I think I have.  I wonder if she lived in Everett, Washington in the 90's.

What you mean to say is, "She can warm up my corn cob until it pops any day!"

Ow, ow, that hurt.  And seriously, what was up with that Corn?  I had Dr. Weird from ATHF in my head the entire time
"Gentlemen!  Behold!  Corn!"
"Then Let the mating begin!"
Gentlemen! BEHOLD! MORE CORN!
Well I dunno. I remember last time...
This time is different!
Well, I am sorta hungry-
IT'S NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL! IS IT, STEVE!?
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Post by: gammer on February 05, 2007, 01:14:44 PM
Yeah, what was up with that Corn scene?
Nothing ever came of it. Was the corn laced with that stuff that turns you into Goblin food?

I guess I shouldn't try to read into anything from this movie.

p.s. That song the towns folk were playing for the welcome party...it got in my head and I thought I was in hell!
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Post by: AmandaGal on February 05, 2007, 01:22:33 PM
Yeah, I was thinking "am I back in high school drama class?" through the whole thing.  Except, we were actually better than that.  I swear they had the script taped to the table.

As for my earlier thoughts on Lowtax, he wasn't as bad as the preview showed (well, he wasn't bad but I had  originally commented that his pitch was too similiar to Mike's).  I still prefer voices to be a bit more different when I'm hearing them and not seeing them (if that makes sense, it's like duets when two people sing, it's always a bit disconcerting when they sound almost the same, like they person is schizo or something and doing all the voices :D), however I only noticed it in a few parts and I think it was the parts where he was more low key.

The movie, however, deserves to die.  I'm glad I rented instead of buying.
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Post by: Rude on February 05, 2007, 01:57:52 PM
Speaking of movies that were shot well but sucked, check out "The Devil's Rain".
...Shatner and Eddie Albert.   It even had Tom Skerrit in it!   We had to watch.

The Devil's Rain is great! I own that one on DVD. Don't forget that it also features John Travolta is his first role, Ernest Borgnine as a cult leader who turns into a satanic goat-man and the huge ending featuring melting people?!@#

How could anybody not want to see that movie?~

-Rude
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Post by: peiz11 on February 05, 2007, 04:59:59 PM
Wow, my first post.  I've been a fan of MST3K for years and have 8 of these rifftrax, slowly starting to netflix them one by one.  I had a great time with Troll2.  Reading this thread I was worried about how lowtax would be but I found him to be really funny.  Obviously, it doesn't sound normal yet, but I thought he was great.  What a horrible movie that badly needed to be riffed!  Anyways, my favorite had to be the "row, row, row your boat" bit.  I was on the floor laughing at that.  Glad to be a part of the boards now!
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Post by: torgosPizza on February 05, 2007, 05:07:25 PM
Wow, my first post.  I've been a fan of MST3K for years and have 8 of these rifftrax, slowly starting to netflix them one by one.  I had a great time with Troll2.  Reading this thread I was worried about how lowtax would be but I found him to be really funny.  Obviously, it doesn't sound normal yet, but I thought he was great.  What a horrible movie that badly needed to be riffed!  Anyways, my favorite had to be the "row, row, row your boat" bit.  I was on the floor laughing at that.  Glad to be a part of the boards now!

Glad to have ya! Welcome aboard!
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Post by: mrbakasan on February 05, 2007, 09:25:01 PM
Speaking of movies that were shot well but sucked, check out "The Devil's Rain".
...Shatner and Eddie Albert.   It even had Tom Skerrit in it!   We had to watch.

The Devil's Rain is great! I own that one on DVD. Don't forget that it also features John Travolta is his first role, Ernest Borgnine as a cult leader who turns into a satanic goat-man and the huge ending featuring melting people?!@#

How could anybody not want to see that movie?~

-Rude

I own that one on DVD as well.  It really has an impressive cast for being such a craptastic movie.  The shining moment in the movie for me is when William Shatner lets out the most bizzare scream ever caught on film in a scene when he is caught and hung upside down by old Ernest.
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Post by: Bob on February 06, 2007, 05:52:20 AM
Besides any Shatner scene or Ernest Borgnine making his "evil" face (complete with rolling eyes) is the scene with the rocking chair that is rocking with no one in it.   As the camera pans back, you see a knife stuck in the arm of the rocking chair.   Attached to the knife is a very large and very long piece of scotch tape.   You can see the tape get pulled by some unknown "special effects" guys offscreen.   It is hilarious.   I guess they were out of fishing line.
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Post by: shortstack on February 06, 2007, 08:33:37 AM
My Troll 2 anecdote:

I've owned Troll 2 on VHS for a while now, mostly because I initially bought the first Troll movie based on a bunch of chatter from some Harry Potter fans on IMDB, and the idea that someone made a sequel to Troll just tickled me pink.
I only paid two bucks for the Troll 2 tape, hated it, but still kept it!

The real story is in the fact that the announcment for the Troll 2 rifftrack came just as I was moving out of my apartment of my recent-ex - I was down and out, everything had happened while I was looking for a job, I was strapped for cash, and I effectively had no place to live.  I managed to finally find a job, and before I start there (since I don't have an apartment yet), I decided to stay with my parents for a week while I search.  I spared some CC to buy the track, and while most of my stuff is in storage, I brought the movie with me. 

Well, my parents wouldn't understand Rifftrax, and they go to bed at like 10pm, so it was a couple of days before I got a chance to watch it.  Finally, yesterday, my dad was out, my mom was at work, so I popped it in, and tried to queue it up.  After noticing that the tape was old enough to not even have the MGM opening, I had to queue it from the Copyright Warning instead.  Suprisingly, it worked.  The track was only off by about a quarter of a second, which drifted to about half a second towards the end of the movie, which was fine (I didn't want to screw around with it).

Okay, so this is a long story, but the whole point is that I laughed my ass off.  I'll admit I was doubtful, but Lowtrax did a great job, and so did Mike, and I really REALLY needed the sort of cathartic release that comes with watching a good Rifftrax or a good MST3k.  It made the past month and a half a hell of a lot more bearable. Somebody should prescribe Rifftrax as a form of therapy.  ;)
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 06, 2007, 08:41:41 AM
Quote
and I really REALLY needed the sort of cathartic release that comes with watching a good Rifftrax or a good MST3k


I know what you mean, i got a few gigs of mst3k episodes out here to watch.  Ive been watching one ever morning before bed.  Its been a grounding expereince.
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Post by: dignan on February 06, 2007, 08:59:43 AM
I enjoyed the Little Miss Sunshine reference, because, well, I didn't like that movie like everyone else on the planet did, so comparing Troll 2 to that amused.
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Post by: 6079SmithW on February 06, 2007, 09:34:25 AM
Quote
and I really REALLY needed the sort of cathartic release that comes with watching a good Rifftrax or a good MST3k


I know what you mean, i got a few gigs of mst3k episodes out here to watch.  Ive been watching one ever morning before bed.  Its been a grounding expereince.
I've just been spending most of my computer's time getting the series on to my iPod- I've got all but about thirty episodes on it now, and that's counting the KTMA seasons. You might think the screen was to small for MST3K to work, but honestly it hasn't caused me any trouble, possibly because I've seen all of the episodes at least once before.

So I get to watch episodes on the shuttle on the way to school, during lunch, or whenever else I'm bored. I've started having to watch serious movies as a cathartic release from MST...

(Now if only I weren't so lazy, I could get more than X-Men on there from Rifftrax. Authoring those dvds is such a huge bitch, though.)
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Post by: AmandaGal on February 06, 2007, 10:51:20 AM
I enjoyed the Little Miss Sunshine reference, because, well, I didn't like that movie like everyone else on the planet did, so comparing Troll 2 to that amused.

It's ironic (well, in an Alanis way) that the Little Miss Sunshine riff came up because a friend of mine was all, "You have to watch Little Miss Sunshine if you haven't seen it! It's the best movie ever!" a few days before I watched Troll 2 and I just added it to my Netflix Queue (she also like Grey's Anatomy so I don't really trust her taste but I'll give any movie a chance once).   I was kinda looking forward to seeing it because I like Greg Kinnear.  I have a feeling she *may* be mistaken on how wonderful it was, especially since it was featured in a riff, which is a honor not held by many movies.

In Netflix, it has a "Long Wait."  That's never a good sign either.
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Post by: mrbasehart on February 06, 2007, 01:53:19 PM
It's ironic (well, in an Alanis way) that the Little Miss Sunshine riff came up because a friend of mine was all, "You have to watch Little Miss Sunshine if you haven't seen it! It's the best movie ever!" a few days before I watched Troll 2 and I just added it to my Netflix Queue (she also like Grey's Anatomy so I don't really trust her taste but I'll give any movie a chance once).   I was kinda looking forward to seeing it because I like Greg Kinnear.  I have a feeling she *may* be mistaken on how wonderful it was, especially since it was featured in a riff, which is a honor not held by many movies.

In Netflix, it has a "Long Wait."  That's never a good sign either.

It's a good movie.  I wouldn't say it was a great one, and I'm a little puzzled as to why it's been nominated for best picture, but the cast are all excellent.
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Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 06, 2007, 02:25:46 PM
because hollywood likes familys that are F*cked up.  it reminds them of home ;)


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Post by: Minnesota on February 06, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
I got little miss sunshine for my birthday and took it back without watching it... I feel kinda bad, but it just seems like a lame movie... maybe I'll rent it one of these days
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Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 06, 2007, 08:05:05 PM
Good decision. I never understood why so many people like it. It wasn't a comedy. It had a few funny parts, but it more or less depressed the crap outta me. It was kinda in the same vein as Steve Zissou.

Get The Departed instead, or The Prestige when it comes out. Or if you can find it, the 2-disc edition of Memento is really really good.
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Post by: Minnesota on February 06, 2007, 08:35:41 PM

the 2-disc edition of Memento is really really good.

christ, another dvd edition of memento, isnt that like the fourth one already... man some of these studio's are insane if they think I'm gonna buy a movie more than once... err wait I guess I've been suckered before... umm but never again :( 

also, memento is a pretty sweet movie, I'm still looking forward to seeing the prestige and the departed
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Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 07, 2007, 07:14:02 AM
The blue 2-disc edition has all kinds of short term memory tricks to play on you, and an egg that lets you watch the movie in chronological order. It's pretty cool.
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Post by: MrTorso on February 08, 2007, 12:21:48 PM

the 2-disc edition of Memento is really really good.

christ, another dvd edition of memento, isnt that like the fourth one already... man some of these studio's are insane if they think I'm gonna buy a movie more than once... err wait I guess I've been suckered before... umm but never again :( 

also, memento is a pretty sweet movie, I'm still looking forward to seeing the prestige and the departed

Nope. There was a one disc bare-bones and a two disc special edition. At least here in region1.

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Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on February 10, 2007, 05:38:34 PM
WTF?

The girl who played Holly is now an ACTING coach????   :o
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 10, 2007, 05:52:02 PM
Re. The Little Miss Sunshine talk a page back:

Well I really liked it, it was easilly one of my favourite films of last year (in a year with a lot of very un-remarkable films), along with The Departed, Monster House and Jindabyne.
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Post by: Minnesota on February 10, 2007, 06:01:24 PM
Re. The Little Miss Sunshine talk a page back:

Well I really liked it, it was easilly one of my favourite films of last year (in a year with a lot of very un-remarkable films), along with The Departed, Monster House and Jindabyne.

so I just rented little miss sunshine the other night and was very underwhelmed; the pedophile-drug-addicted grandfather, the suicidal uncle, two parents that have no chemistry whatso ever together, and the two screwed up kids, both of whom have some of the most odd goals imaginable. Even with all this baggage, the movie was watchable but hell no does it deserve any of the Oscar praises. - just my opinion of course  ;D

so what is this Jinabyne movie? the title has me interested for some reason, I also look forward to renting the departed on Tuesday
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Post by: Edward J Grug III on February 10, 2007, 06:08:33 PM
I don't know if you'll be able to find Jindabyne very easily, but if you do it is WELL worth it. It's an Australian film (and I normally avoid Australian films like the plague)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382765/

It does have Laura Linney and Gabriel Byrne in it though!

(And the grandfather was not a pedophile)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on February 10, 2007, 06:14:28 PM
after reading about jindabyne it reminds me vaguely of the trouble with harry, (hitchcock) only vaguely mind you.

Quote
(And the grandfather was not a pedophile)

He merely plays one ;)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Bob on February 11, 2007, 06:46:16 AM
WTF?

The girl who played Holly is now an ACTING coach????   :o

Those who can't do, teach?

I read that in IMDB.com and almost passed out.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Msampo on February 21, 2007, 04:11:32 PM
Well, I have been in the midst of some life-upheaval, resulting in being about three riffs behind. But the envelope from Blockbuster arrived yesterday with Troll 2, so I finally got a chance to see this one.
First off, I was vaguely aware of the SA site, but it's not one I visited often. So I really had no preconceptions about Rich. I've been to it recently and it seems to be a well-run site. Rich, if you're reading this, I suspect you and I could probably exchange stories about our respective site visitors all day. And *my* site doesn't even have a forum!
Anyway, like a lot of folks I think I may have come to this one with unconsciously low expectations, but be that as it may I enjoyed this one quite a bit! Rich did a splendid job! I thought he sounded a little like Bill...
Lots of great riffs and terrible...TERRIBLE movie.

So, mods, since Mike is teaming up with web site maintainers, do you think Mike might ever want to fly me and Erhardt out to do a riff with him? ::) I think we'd be pretty good!

Sampo
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 21, 2007, 04:16:42 PM

So, mods, since Mike is teaming up with web site maintainers, do you think Mike might ever want to fly me and Erhardt out to do a riff with him?

If you are flown out here you will be subject to TORCHA!

Seriously though... hmm.. it's not up to us. But I will put a ballot in the box for you guys. No telling what could happen, as long as you're funny!
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 21, 2007, 05:38:25 PM
There goes the neighborhood. ::)




 :D
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: MarkAndrew on April 05, 2007, 12:01:27 PM
I just read the Ving Rames is Married to that lovely and talented Druidess from Troll 2.
Is that true?  Or is someone putting some extra english on their April Fool's joke?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 05, 2007, 12:39:49 PM
(http://www.dealmemo.com/Interview/Ving_Rhames_Undisputed_files/image001.jpg)

She looks like a Julia Louis-Dreyfus double.
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Post by: MarkAndrew on April 05, 2007, 12:44:50 PM
boy, without the glasses and teeth scum...it's hard to say.
What a weird twist of fate if that IS her...
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 05, 2007, 12:46:11 PM
Google it.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Wiseblood on April 05, 2007, 02:19:32 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005341/

She also apparently won a lifetime supply of Certs on Hollywood Squares.

Actually I think that's a different Deborah Reed that's married to Ving Rhames and those pictures being linked to her profile are a mistake.    Here's another picture of Ving and his wife:

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6963/hustlepreg2vi8.jpg)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: PlayMSTie on April 21, 2007, 03:17:08 AM
Ugh. That movie was . . . UGH. I think my DVD player needs to go take a shower.  :speechless: You have to be a deeply sick person to come up with something like that.

Lowtax was really good, but I hope next time they bring him back for something better than that. Shouldn't be hard. That thing made Manos look like King Lear.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Bob on April 21, 2007, 03:26:16 AM
Ugh. That movie was . . . UGH. I think my DVD player needs to go take a shower.  :speechless: You have to be a deeply sick person to come up with something like that.

Lowtax was really good, but I hope next time they bring him back for something better than that. Shouldn't be hard. That thing made Manos look like King Lear.

You my friend, need to see Feeders and Feeders 2.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: PlayMSTie on April 21, 2007, 06:28:44 AM
[Vadervoice]
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/Vadervoice]
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Bob on April 21, 2007, 08:37:52 AM
[Vadervoice]
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/Vadervoice]

You lips say NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!, but your eyes say YES!

(http://www.horrormovies.com/images/Feeders12.jpg)
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on April 21, 2007, 10:03:22 AM
Only... At The Grindhouse...
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: FrensaGeran on April 21, 2007, 10:28:18 AM
Haha, what planet is that? Or did Earth get a makeover for....THE FEEEDDERRSSSS!!!!!

Only...At The Grindhouse.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: PlayMSTie on April 21, 2007, 12:07:50 PM
Seriously, HOW do filmmakers come up with crap like this?? You'd have to be sicker than Alec Baldwin.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Bob on April 21, 2007, 01:02:55 PM
You'd have to be sicker than Alec Baldwin.

Feeders is a fine film.  You are a rude, thoughtless little pig.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: PlayMSTie on April 21, 2007, 01:09:53 PM
I'm telling TMZ on you!!  :P
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: gbeenie on April 21, 2007, 05:06:23 PM
You'd have to be sicker than Alec Baldwin.

Feeders is a fine film.  You are a rude, thoughtless little pig.

Have I told you lately that I love you?
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Bob on April 21, 2007, 05:45:03 PM
You'd have to be sicker than Alec Baldwin.

Feeders is a fine film.  You are a rude, thoughtless little pig.

Have I told you lately that I love you?

As long as it is from the heart and not for the cameras, I am okay.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: ambitiously stupid on April 24, 2007, 12:48:27 PM
I was one of the ringleaders of the Troll 2 campaign on this board.  And even I will admit that Feeders and Feeders 2 somehow manage to sink even lower than Troll 2.  I know Feeders or Feeders 2 will never be a Rifftrax, but I challenge every Rifftrax fan to seek those movies and watch them.   :clap: You will not regret it.  There is just no way anything can be worse.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Hobbit on April 24, 2007, 04:21:50 PM
I was one of the ringleaders of the Troll 2 campaign on this board.  And even I will admit that Feeders and Feeders 2 somehow manage to sink even lower than Troll 2.  I know Feeders or Feeders 2 will never be a Rifftrax, but I challenge every Rifftrax fan to seek those movies and watch them.   :clap: You will not regret it.  There is just no way anything can be worse.

Except Nukie.

Remember, there's always something worse.  I once thought Xtreme Paintbrawl (downloaded it.  Even at the price of free, it's a ripoff) was as bad as a game could get, but then I found Big Rigs:  Over the Road Racing.
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: CHF01 on May 31, 2008, 11:20:52 PM
Now this is more like it!  :D

This was a GREAT Rifftrax. Rich and Mike made the gawd awful movie bearable. One of my favorite 'trax so far; reminisant of MST3K . If you are a MSTie fan, you will really enjoy this laugh riot. Highly recommended!  :clap:
Title: Re: TROLL 2? TROLL 2????? (Thoughts)
Post by: Maverick Joe Six-Pack on October 11, 2008, 02:59:06 PM
This is one of the few Riffs I haven't seen but I finally got to it on my netflix queue.  So here's hoping...
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Post by: OmegaR! on October 11, 2008, 03:16:44 PM
It's very memorable, to say the least...


 POPCORN!!!