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Title: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 19, 2007, 05:55:37 PM
I gotta give it to Kurosawa, Kubrick, and Hitchcock. They are all masters of cinema. Anyway, who do you think are the greatest directors of all time?

By the way, if anyone dares mention someone like Kevin Smith among names like Kubes and Kurosawa, you will be killed on sight.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 19, 2007, 06:27:33 PM
not a big kubrick fan at all, but Kurosawa and Hitchcock hell yeah.  I guess DeMille for my third. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 19, 2007, 08:18:47 PM
Apart from the 3 that you've mentioned, Michael Powell, Howard Hawks, and Billy Wilder have made films over their careers that I really love.  Michael Powell (in collaboration with Emeric Pressburger) made some of the best British films of all time.  Howard Hawks basically invented the film noir and the screwball comedy.  Billy Wilder's later career might've feature more hits than misses (though I really love Avanti and The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes), but his early stuff was hilarious.

I do admire a lot of directors, but these are the three that I sort of look up to.

Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Variety of Cells on January 19, 2007, 08:35:31 PM
I'll spread some love for Gilliam (as you probably know), and Ingmar Bergman.  Artsy?  I guess.  But they get so close to human emotion and problems through their art.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 20, 2007, 07:48:22 AM
I REALLY got to get around to seeing the seventh seal already.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Bob on January 20, 2007, 08:03:06 AM
Uwe Bol.   :P

(sorry, but you knew it was a matter of time)

Besides the folks already mentioned in the above posts, I've always liked John Woo's early work and the Coen Brothers.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: MrTorso on January 20, 2007, 08:26:38 AM
....I've always liked John Woo's early work .....

How early??

Last Hurrah For Chivalry / Hand of Death / Princess Chang Ping early or Better Tomorrow / Killer / Bullet in the Head early?

Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Tarantulas on January 20, 2007, 10:12:57 AM
I gotta give it to Kurosawa, Kubrick, and Hitchcock. They are all masters of cinema. Anyway, who do you think are the greatest directors of all time?

By the way, if anyone dares mention someone like Kevin Smith among names like Kubes and Kurosawa, you will be killed on sight.

I've been slowly building my Kurosawa collection of DVDs..  I've got all of the period epics and have moved on to his more contemporary dramas.

John Ford is a name that needs to be on this list of greatest directors as well.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 20, 2007, 11:31:29 AM
ive been trying to get a copy of the K's "dreams" for  a while now. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Variety of Cells on January 20, 2007, 12:13:04 PM
ive been trying to get a copy of the K's "dreams" for  a while now. 

I gots me one a few months ago.  The last dream, even before I saw the film, is my own personal dream world. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 20, 2007, 01:08:30 PM
what good contemporary kurosawa films are there.  ill admit my knowledge is empty there.  The samurai genre ones are great but i really have wanted to see some other stuff done by him

Edit: yes i know i could look it up but eh that sounds like effort.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Bob on January 20, 2007, 02:03:19 PM
....I've always liked John Woo's early work .....

How early??

Last Hurrah For Chivalry / Hand of Death / Princess Chang Ping early or Better Tomorrow / Killer / Bullet in the Head early?



I love his Hong Kong Films........ Better Tomorrow and The Killer are two of the most poetic films ever.   
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Rufus T on January 20, 2007, 02:05:17 PM
 These are in no particular order.

 Alfred Hitchcock
 Michael Curtiz
 Stanley Kubrick
 Frank Capra
 Steven Spielberg
 Martin Scorcese
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: davo on January 20, 2007, 02:30:17 PM
you guys covered em pretty well. a few more (i had to look up some of the movies first..not big on directors' names):

F.W. Murnau (Nosferatu)
Fritz Lang (Metropolis)

David Lean (lawrence of arabia)
William Wyler (ben hur)


you guys thing Ang Lee will be looked upon as a great director?
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 20, 2007, 03:00:07 PM
yeah i like ang lee, he needs a few more really good hits though


fritz and wyler very nice
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 20, 2007, 03:37:38 PM
what good contemporary kurosawa films are there.  ill admit my knowledge is empty there.  The samurai genre ones are great but i really have wanted to see some other stuff done by him

Edit: yes i know i could look it up but eh that sounds like effort.

Ran
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 20, 2007, 04:37:53 PM
wrong type of contemporary.  I have ran. I meant something that wasnt samurai genre.  Ran is great by the way
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Variety of Cells on January 20, 2007, 04:45:02 PM
I justed watched High and Low the other day and enjoyed that quite a lot.  Even though it's quite old, it had an original take on the whole kidnapping genre.  It's at his usual slower pace, but it never fails to be interesting and thought provoking.  I love how he ended it too.  It's not a huge surprise ending or anything, but I still found it unexpected. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 20, 2007, 07:45:41 PM
wrong type of contemporary.  I have ran. I meant something that wasnt samurai genre.  Ran is great by the way

Ikiru and Stray Dog are both excellent contemporary Kurosawa films.  I still find it odd when I see Toshiro Mifune clean-shaven in the latter.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 20, 2007, 07:51:31 PM
wrong type of contemporary.  I have ran. I meant something that wasnt samurai genre.  Ran is great by the way

The Bad Sleep Well, than.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 20, 2007, 09:10:42 PM
COLEMAN FRANCIS
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Pak-Man on January 20, 2007, 11:16:13 PM
I'm an odd person with an odd taste in movies, so I like some odd directors. :^)

Chuck Jones: He was credited as a director, so he counts. :^)
Stephen Chow: So far, I've only seen Kung Fu Hustle and Shoulin Soccer, but the movies are so delightfully bizzare, I gotta give him props. :^)
Quentin Terrantino (Hey SOMEONE had to say it!): He has a way of taking incredible levels of violence and making them a sort of odd three-stooges brand of funny. :^)
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: MrTorso on January 21, 2007, 12:25:40 AM

Stephen Chow: So far, I've only seen Kung Fu Hustle and Shoulin Soccer, but the movies are so delightfully bizzare, I gotta give him props. :^)

Some other Stephen Chow flicks worth catching:

Love on Delivery
Out of the Dark
Sixty Million Dollar Man
Fight Back to School 1, 2 & 3

Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 21, 2007, 08:13:51 AM

Stephen Chow: So far, I've only seen Kung Fu Hustle and Shoulin Soccer, but the movies are so delightfully bizzare, I gotta give him props. :^)

Some other Stephen Chow flicks worth catching:

Love on Delivery
Out of the Dark
Sixty Million Dollar Man
Fight Back to School 1, 2 & 3

I've seen a couple of these, and they're pretty amusing.  Forbidden City Cop and The God of Cookery have their moments, too.   The latter being the absolutely gorgeous Karen Mok.   ;D
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 21, 2007, 10:42:51 AM
I have a rather hard time enjoying kung fu movies ever since MMA came along and exposed Kung Fu as an innefective martial art. I really liked Kung Fu Hustle, though. And I still like the older Jackie Chan stunt fests.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on January 21, 2007, 10:56:17 AM
Ed Wood.
For giving us Plan 9 From Outer Space!

and

David Winters and Neil Sundstrom for giving us Space Mutiny!!

Gotta give credit where credit's due.   ;)
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 21, 2007, 12:24:30 PM
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I have a rather hard time enjoying kung fu movies ever since MMA came along and exposed Kung Fu as an innefective martial art. I really liked Kung Fu Hustle, though

For the love of all thats holy i hope that was sarcasm
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: aneel on January 21, 2007, 03:05:15 PM
John Woo for A Better Tomorrow, The Killer, and Hard Boiled.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 21, 2007, 04:49:58 PM
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I have a rather hard time enjoying kung fu movies ever since MMA came along and exposed Kung Fu as an innefective martial art. I really liked Kung Fu Hustle, though

For the love of all thats holy i hope that was sarcasm
No. I like kung fu movies better when I thought it sorta worked. Doesn't matter too much for comedies, fortunately.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 21, 2007, 05:39:08 PM
my confusion is that you think MMA proved ANYTHING at all.  Let alone kung fu doesnt work.  MMA is a marketing sham. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: starfighter on January 21, 2007, 06:14:40 PM
  Kubrick's tops on my list, but Hitchcock, Frank Capra, Preston Sturges (just for Sullivan's Travels, but he has other great ones) and I'll include Hayao Miyazaki as possibly the best animation director ever. He's still working, so maybe a subset of still active directors would include Spielberg, Scorcese, Eastwood and maybe Woody Allen, although his current work doesn't match up to his earlier stuff.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 21, 2007, 06:34:17 PM
ill second miyazaki.  Ill go one step further and throw him into the best of all time category.  :)
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr. Whopoopeepee on January 21, 2007, 07:58:47 PM
Stanley Kubrick (2001, A Clockwork Orange)
Alfred Hitchcock (Rear Window, Vertigo)
Joel Cohen (Raising Arizona, Big Lebowski)
Terry Gilliam (Time Bandits, Brazil) (definately not counting "Brothers Grimm" or "Tideland")

Those are my favourites that I can think of now. 
Honourable mentions go to Mel Brooks (Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles), and Senior Spielbergo (Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws). 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 21, 2007, 08:00:33 PM
  Kubrick's tops on my list, but Hitchcock, Frank Capra, Preston Sturges (just for Sullivan's Travels, but he has other great ones)...

I think Preston Sturges is fantastic.  Sullivan's Travels may be his best work, but I really love Palm Beach Story and The Lady Eve too.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 21, 2007, 10:14:05 PM
my confusion is that you think MMA proved ANYTHING at all.  Let alone kung fu doesnt work.  MMA is a marketing sham. 
Wasted some time and money on Wing Chun lessons, did we?  ;D
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on January 22, 2007, 06:46:53 AM
My all-time favorite horror movie director:

(http://www.wpfs.org/moviepix/AwakeningOfTheBeast_coffinJoe_psyjoe1.jpg)

Jos Mojica Marins (as Z do Caixo -- "Coffin Joe")
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 08:45:31 AM
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Wasted some time and money on Wing Chun lessons, did we? 

actually no.  It has absolutely nothing to do with style.  It has everything to do with how its taught.  Even MMA can be good if its a good teacher.  I have taken Shodokahn karate  (I butchered the spelling but dont care) 

www.SKA.org

I currently take karate from a guy who has mixed it with some korean forms, he calls it universal karate-do.  which is a really crappy name if you know anything about anything but he teaches the actual class well. 

while im deployed out here in the desert i have been taking shorinji kempo taught by one of our japanese allies.  Which by the way has been an amazingly cool experience for me. 

I have seen effective martial arts on ALL ends of the spectrums, kung fu included.  There is no one supiorer style.  Sorry thats just the way it is.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 02:37:35 PM
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Wasted some time and money on Wing Chun lessons, did we? 

actually no.  It has absolutely nothing to do with style.  It has everything to do with how its taught.  Even MMA can be good if its a good teacher.  I have taken Shodokahn karate  (I butchered the spelling but dont care) 

www.SKA.org

I currently take karate from a guy who has mixed it with some korean forms, he calls it universal karate-do.  which is a really crappy name if you know anything about anything but he teaches the actual class well. 

while im deployed out here in the desert i have been taking shorinji kempo taught by one of our japanese allies.  Which by the way has been an amazingly cool experience for me. 

I have seen effective martial arts on ALL ends of the spectrums, kung fu included.  There is no one supiorer style.  Sorry thats just the way it is.


A karateka! You will like this video.
http://www.youtube.com/v/aaCZ3amOm_U
P.S. I never said there was one (http://one) superior style. That's kinda the point of MIXED martial arts, isn't it? There are definitely crappy styles of martial arts out there, however. That's what this is about.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 02:43:41 PM
uh i cant watch videos out here man.  sorry i might be able to view it in 4 months. 

still all the guys who claim to practice MMA i have meant have been knuckle dragging lunkheads who want to be tough.  Kung fu works as does other things.  thats my point.  I never beleived in kung fu by the way until my dad (who has done karate for about 30 years) showed me some things.  He is also a cop in a very tough part of the country so he has a lot of "practical" self defense as well.  Dont get confused just like the knuckle draggin morons who think that only grappling or MMA or whatever they do is the "REAL" way to fight i have met some people who are so in love with martial arts movies that they lose all practical sense when watching their "masters" show them the one touch deathstrike in their so called kung fu class.  it goes both ways. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 02:54:18 PM
uh i cant watch videos out here man.  sorry i might be able to view it in 4 months. 

still all the guys who claim to practice MMA i have meant have been knuckle dragging lunkheads who want to be tough.  Kung fu works as does other things.  thats my point.  I never beleived in kung fu by the way until my dad (who has done karate for about 30 years) showed me some things.  He is also a cop in a very tough part of the country so he has a lot of "practical" self defense as well.  Dont get confused just like the knuckle draggin morons who think that only grappling or MMA or whatever they do is the "REAL" way to fight i have met some people who are so in love with martial arts movies that they lose all practical sense when watching their "masters" show them the one touch deathstrike in their so called kung fu class.  it goes both ways. 

Wow, ad hominem city. What does it say about your argument when you have to resort to ignorant stereotypes? Knuckle dragging morons? First off, it's untrue. Second, it's irrelevant. For this particular argument, I care who wins the fight, not who can solve a sudoku faster. And as far as the fight goes, I will believe it when I see it, and I have yet to see someone win a fight with straight up kung fu. Ever. Ever ever ever. I have seen them get completely brutalized and humiliated, however.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 02:59:47 PM
Eh im done with this.  Neither of us can really prove this point to the other.  I dont know what style you practice you dont know what i know.  I am all for argument in the usually sense but this is something that really needs to be "shown" to the other.  I realized it was a sterotype, but those are also the types of people i have yet met.  I havent met any nice ones.  sorry man. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 03:02:32 PM
Eh im done with this.  Neither of us can really prove this point to the other.  I dont know what style you practice you dont know what i know.  I am all for argument in the usually sense but this is something that really needs to be "shown" to the other.  I realized it was a sterotype, but those are also the types of people i have yet met.  I havent met any nice ones.  sorry man. 

True, the only way to prove it would be to test it emprically. If only someone would set up a tournament where people of all styles could fight each other to determine the best... I'd call it "Ultimate Fighting," cause it'd ultimately settle the question. Or better yet, "mixed martial arts" cause it's like you're mixing all the martial arts together. One can only dream.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 03:20:51 PM
yeah if only thats what they "really" did and not just get a bunch of guy together to make the gracies look good.

Id also like to point out there are a large amount "rules"

Butting with the head.
Eye gouging of any kind.
Biting.
Hair pulling.
Fish hooking.
Groin attacks of any kind.
Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent. (see Gouging)
Small joint manipulation.
Striking to the spine or the back of the head. (see Rabbit punch)
Striking downward using the point of the elbow. (see Elbow (strike))
Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
Grabbing the clavicle.
Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
Stomping a grounded opponent.
Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck. (see piledriver)
Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.

there are ten others that i didnt include cause they arent really attack limiting.

this is a pretty good article on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC

I would like to say i like the pride fights sometimes though.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 03:31:19 PM
yeah if only thats what they "really" did and not just get a bunch of guy together to make the gracies look good.

Id also like to point out there are a large amount "rules"

Butting with the head.
Eye gouging of any kind.
Biting.
Hair pulling.
Fish hooking.
Groin attacks of any kind.
Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent. (see Gouging)
Small joint manipulation.
Striking to the spine or the back of the head. (see Rabbit punch)
Striking downward using the point of the elbow. (see Elbow (strike))
Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
Grabbing the clavicle.
Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
Stomping a grounded opponent.
Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck. (see piledriver)
Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.

there are ten others that i didnt include cause they arent really attack limiting.

this is a pretty good article on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC

I would like to say i like the pride fights sometimes though.
Yeah, the UFC has rules now. What's your point? Are you saying you can only win a fight with Kung Fu if you can bite people and poke their eyes? Sounds real useful. By the way my little sister knows how to do that.

They didn't always have rules, by the way. Where were the kung fu practitioners then? Oh that's right. Getting choked out by Royce "The Crappy Gracie" Gracie.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 03:39:00 PM
sigh what are you talking about man?

There were no kung fu guys who knew what they were doing in UFC.  thats my point.  further it generally not considered kosher to fight in tourneys by some schools. 

again what do you practice?
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Bob on January 22, 2007, 03:41:07 PM
sigh what are you talking about man?

There were no kung fu guys who knew what they were doing in UFC.  thats my point.  further it generally not considered kosher to fight in tourneys by some schools. 

again what do you practice?

Guys, let us just settle this now, the best move was, is, and always will be, the Moe Howard eye poke.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 03:43:12 PM
WHAT???!?!  No way the one handed throat rip by swazy
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Lord on January 22, 2007, 03:44:43 PM
sigh what are you talking about man?

There were no kung fu guys who knew what they were doing in UFC.  thats my point.  further it generally not considered kosher to fight in tourneys by some schools. 

again what do you practice?

The answer to this thread, Sergio Leone.

And for this post, Jason Delucia entered UFC 2 and got armbarred. He is a Kung Fu practitioner with a decent record. He also challenged Royce before that and got owned.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 03:48:54 PM
really?  whats his decent record?  and where and how long did he train?
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Lord on January 22, 2007, 03:51:59 PM
really?  whats his decent record?  and where and how long did he train?

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=22

I don't know, somewhere in Massachusetts. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 22, 2007, 03:57:39 PM
The answer to this thread, Sergio Leone.

Ahh. He got there before me. Best Directors(In no order) follows:
Sergio Leone
Martin Scorsese
Quentin Tarantino
Christopher Nolan
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 04:00:18 PM
sigh what are you talking about man?

There were no kung fu guys who knew what they were doing in UFC.  thats my point.  further it generally not considered kosher to fight in tourneys by some schools. 

again what do you practice?
Jason Delucia knew kung fu. It's debatable whether or not he actually USED it in his fights, but that sort of contributes to the point. Jason's MMA record - http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=22 (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=22)

I have no formal training but I like to roll with my friends, not that it's relevant.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 04:01:08 PM
how good does any one rate miyazaki compared to rest of the best of all time?
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 04:10:10 PM
how good does any one rate miyazaki compared to rest of the best of all time?
I only saw Princess Monononoke and didn't like it. Is that pretty representative of most of his work?
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 04:20:51 PM
i would say yes kinda.  Actaully i have no idea how to answer that lol.  what didnt you like about it.  ill start there.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 04:29:55 PM
i would say yes kinda.  Actaully i have no idea how to answer that lol.  what didnt you like about it.  ill start there.
Hmm, it's been a while since I saw it. Basically it just didn't particularly thrill me or stand out and say "best director ever" in any way.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 04:32:00 PM
are we the only people on the forum?  lol

anyways well in that case oh well.  You really ought to see spirited away though it was pretty good.  It won best animated film. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 04:34:21 PM
are we the only people on the forum?  lol

anyways well in that case oh well.  You really ought to see spirited away though it was pretty good.  It won best animated film. 
I've been trying to find an anime I didn't hate for years and years, I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 04:48:04 PM
sigh what are you talking about man?

There were no kung fu guys who knew what they were doing in UFC.  thats my point.  further it generally not considered kosher to fight in tourneys by some schools. 

again what do you practice?

Guys, let us just settle this now, the best move was, is, and always will be, the Moe Howard eye poke.

No, this is the best move right here...
(http://xf6.xanga.com/e90a925b0233276174327/m51507549.gif)
Runner up -
(http://xd1.xanga.com/f8aa80074633279617942/q54132356.gif)
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 04:49:57 PM
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I've been trying to find an anime I didn't hate for years and years, I'll give it a shot

i assume someone has suggested cowboy bebop by now right?
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 22, 2007, 04:53:46 PM
Spirited Away is an amazing film.  Of Miyazaki's work, I think Princess Mononoke is possibly the weakest effort I've seen by him, as the others are pretty great. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 22, 2007, 04:55:17 PM
woot someone agrees with me lol
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 04:57:17 PM
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I've been trying to find an anime I didn't hate for years and years, I'll give it a shot
i assume someone has suggested cowboy bebop by now right?
Oh yeah, cowboy bebop. That's actually my second favorite anime, next to Lupin the 3rd, in that I don't hate it.

I should have said anime MOVIE originally. Still looking for a good one of those.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Variety of Cells on January 22, 2007, 08:15:49 PM
At the sake of sounding like an idiot, how about Cowboy Bebop the movie, Knocking on Haven's Door?
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Dr.Impossible on January 22, 2007, 09:06:01 PM
At the sake of sounding like an idiot, how about Cowboy Bebop the movie, Knocking on Haven's Door?

Didn't even know it existed.

Is it pretty movie-y, or is it all movie-version-of-tv-showy, like Serenity?
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Variety of Cells on January 22, 2007, 10:24:24 PM
It does a great job of being its own movie.  I saw it before I ever saw the tv show, and I wasn't confused in the least.  It does a great job of introducing the characters and telling its own story.  Plus, they had a bigger budget so it looks better, and they get a chance to tell a deeper story, and really delve into the characters. 

And of course, the music is fantastic.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Pak-Man on January 22, 2007, 11:11:11 PM
The movie is a must-see if you like the show. I had the thrill of seeing it on the big screen at a local indie theatre. :^)
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 23, 2007, 09:10:30 AM
as to a good anime movie for the sake of a movie.  I still recommend spirited away.  One of the others i can think of is perfect blue.  The animation doesnt look all that great by todays standards but i find the movie though pretty dark, to be very interesting.  its kind of a pychological thriller about a pop star being stalked. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: davo on January 24, 2007, 04:45:53 PM
Spirited Away is an amazing film.  Of Miyazaki's work, I think Princess Mononoke is possibly the weakest effort I've seen by him, as the others are pretty great. 

good call. that was a great & great looking film.
problem with princess mononoke imo is the dub. i dislike the whole "Megastar dubbing Japanese films" trend. 


sigh what are you talking about man?

There were no kung fu guys who knew what they were doing in UFC.  thats my point.  further it generally not considered kosher to fight in tourneys by some schools. 

again what do you practice?

Guys, let us just settle this now, the best move was, is, and always will be, the Moe Howard eye poke.

HAHAHAH!!  agreed!
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on January 25, 2007, 06:00:53 AM
problem with princess mononoke imo is the dub. i dislike the whole "Megastar dubbing Japanese films" trend. 


Dubbing Japanese Anime films is like giving drugs to a drug addict.


It should not be done.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: BathTub on January 25, 2007, 06:31:18 AM
The DVD always included the subtitled version as well.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: PsypherPunk on January 25, 2007, 09:07:03 AM
good call. that was a great & great looking film.
problem with princess mononoke imo is the dub. i dislike the whole "Megastar dubbing Japanese films" trend. 

I loved the film but the dubbing was laughable (Gillian Anderson's jaw-wired-shut delivery was brilliantly awful). I'm thankful I saw the Japanese version first.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 25, 2007, 09:15:56 AM
Im in the odd boat, i like dubbing.  I also like subtitles.  Its all a matter of what mood i feel like.  It often seems to me some people put to much value in japanese just because its japanese.  People like beleive its somehow more interesting as opposed to just being in a different language.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Pak-Man on January 25, 2007, 09:52:44 AM
I can't follow the on-screen action while reading, but I can understand those who watch anime subbed just to escape the voice acting. (Especially ADV's voice acting. Why, oh why do they keep picking up all the good stuff?)
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 25, 2007, 01:00:58 PM
problem with princess mononoke imo is the dub. i dislike the whole "Megastar dubbing Japanese films" trend. 


Dubbing Japanese Anime films is like giving drugs to a drug addict.


It should not be done.

Imagine Seven Samurai or Rashomon being dubbed. Oh, God...
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 25, 2007, 01:07:36 PM
It could be done.  it could be.  Its just another voice.  someone who can voice act should have no problems doing it.  That said the studios never pay for good voice acting for some reason.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 25, 2007, 06:04:15 PM
I think there's a difference between dubbing animated films and live-action ones.  If you dub an actor in a live-action movie, you're changing his performance (usually for the worse), but in an animated movie, you're replacing the performance, so the change might not be so glaring or so disruptive to the film. 
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 25, 2007, 06:09:40 PM
In either case often trying to compare the new product to the old is silly.  I generally think of it as a different movie.  There have been a few that have changed so much this isnt all that far from the truth.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: starfighter on January 25, 2007, 09:08:25 PM
   Most of the "celebrity" voice dubs in Miyazaki's work have at least been better than something like "Robots".  Last year, they did a second dubbing of "My Neighbor Totoro" with Dakota and Elle Fanning voicing the two sisters.  I wouldn't say they were better than the earlier voicework but sometimes you just hope the celebrity voices will bring someone's attention to a charming anime that's kid-friendly.

    They haven't been mentioned yet but I hope the Miyazaki fans are all familiar with "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind" an earlier environmental-themed work than "Princess Mononoke",  and especially "Castle of Cagliostro" his feature-length Lupin the III adventure.  It's the equal in action to all but the very best Bond movies with gorgeous art.
Title: Re: Who are the greatest directors of all time?
Post by: SaucyRossy on January 25, 2007, 11:38:58 PM
The answer to this thread, Sergio Leone.

QFT