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Title: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: iv3rdawG on November 30, 2009, 03:13:00 PM
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8297/reddeadredemptionlogo.jpg)

How sweet is that artwork? It's straight from a Sergio Leone spaghetti western. The sequel to one of the most underrated games that I can remember and one of the most underused genres has a release month. Release date is set for April, mark your calendars. I cannot wait.

http://www.youtube.com/v/jpTQQcgRxMo&hl=en_US&fs=1&
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on November 30, 2009, 05:08:37 PM
Yep.  From the trailers and everything, it's on my radar.  I don't recall there being a decent open-world Western game either, so it'll be something new too.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on December 01, 2009, 08:35:13 AM
Easily my #1 most anticipated 2010 release.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: iv3rdawG on December 01, 2009, 01:22:42 PM
New trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/v/_sU0PwzdMiY&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Confirms the April 27, 2010 release date. Soundtrack sounds fantastic too.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: CrowTeeRobot on December 08, 2009, 09:19:39 AM
I lost count of the Clint Eastwood Western references about halfway through that last trailer. Definitely gonna pick this one up.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on December 15, 2009, 04:12:37 PM
Want to know lots more about the game and how it plays?  New trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/v/JaM9KtmZJyU&hl=en_GB&fs=1

You can see it in HD here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaM9KtmZJyU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaM9KtmZJyU)

Looks fantastic!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on December 16, 2009, 07:27:28 AM
Day. One. Purchase.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Steve-O on December 16, 2009, 09:08:30 AM
Holy crap!  That looks incredible!

How was the first game in the series?  Was it anything like that?  I haven't played a good Western game since Outlaws.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on December 16, 2009, 09:16:37 AM
Apparently it's not that much of an open world game.  And though I think Rockstar finished the game, they didn't develop it.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: iv3rdawG on December 16, 2009, 09:46:46 AM
The first game was so much fun. Not sure how it holds up now but I loved it when it first came out.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on December 16, 2009, 12:01:39 PM
Apparently it's not that much of an open world game.  And though I think Rockstar finished the game, they didn't develop it.

Not necessarily bad things.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on December 16, 2009, 12:25:41 PM
Apparently it's not that much of an open world game.  And though I think Rockstar finished the game, they didn't develop it.

Not necessarily bad things.

Agreed, but that's basically all I know about the game.  :)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on December 16, 2009, 01:23:56 PM
How was the first game in the series?  Was it anything like that?  I haven't played a good Western game since Outlaws.

The original has it's own charms, but it wasn't open world at all, it was much more linear in nature, and had a much less serious tone.  I think it had exploding midget clowns at one point.  Take that for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on December 19, 2009, 08:45:43 PM
Yeah, I saw that trailer the other night. And, barring damning reviews, WANT!

I have great faith in Rockstar to make a game worth buying. And this has the potential to be fucking AMAZING.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on January 09, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
Some pretty screenshots!

(http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/screenshots/961/med_090120101.jpg)

(http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/screenshots/961/med_090120102.jpg)

(http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/screenshots/961/med_090120103.jpg)

(http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/screenshots/961/med_090120104.jpg)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on January 11, 2010, 07:35:43 AM
I am going to play the hell out of this game.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on January 15, 2010, 10:26:32 PM
yeah i bought the original game way back when and still have it.  nothing too original in the storyline but good all the same.  and yes, there were exploding clown midgets in some parts of the game. :P
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 16, 2010, 08:54:59 AM
Just a quick bump considering this is coming out next weekend.  I've read a couple of early print reviews, and they are glowing.  Describing the game as massive and beautiful with tons of stuff to do.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 16, 2010, 10:52:18 AM
I put this in the PS3 topic, but it'll be more at home here.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on this game for about the past six months:

(http://www.thorninpaw.com/homer-drool.jpg)

And my new monitor will be here within a couple days of me buying the game. I'll get to play it in shiny HD. ^_^
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Moleman on May 16, 2010, 11:46:30 AM
Top 5 reasons why Red Dead Redemption will kick ass

http://blip.tv/play/hdEVgdz2QgI


I didn't know about this game nor cared until this video.  Now I'm pissed off because this isn't coming out on PC.  I don't own any consoles.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 16, 2010, 11:51:37 AM
Top 5 reasons why Red Dead Redemption will kick ass

http://blip.tv/play/hdEVgdz2QgI


I didn't know about this game nor cared until this video.  Now I'm pissed off because this isn't coming out on PC.  I don't own any consoles.

I wouldn't be surprised if it did get ported, though. Maybe they're waiting to see how well it does on the consoles, or maybe they didn't want to wait until it was ported to a third platform before releasing it.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Steve-O on May 16, 2010, 12:54:13 PM
As I recall, Rockstar didn't announce a PC version of any of the Grand Theft Auto III series until several months after the PlayStation releases.  They like to milk the console audience for as long as possible before they put out the instantly- and widely-pirated PC version.  Announcing early means fewer people who bite the bullet and buy it on the consoles.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Moleman on May 16, 2010, 01:43:06 PM
I own Vice City for PC but I didn't remember it coming out until a year after the PS2 release.  That does seem to be their usually method.

I'm not worried though.  You'd have to be insane not to take advantage of the PC only market so they'll have a release eventually.  At least I will have found out how awesome it is (or if it sucks ass) in plenty of time to decide if I want it.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Moleman on May 16, 2010, 01:51:58 PM
Part 2 of Angry Joe's Red Dead Redemption Preview Review

http://blip.tv/play/hdEVgd7iZQI
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 16, 2010, 05:07:25 PM
Have Rockstar gotten better with their PC ports? I bought GTA 3 for the PC and ran horribly on my then-ninja Alienware PC.  I remember having problems with San Andreas too.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Moleman on May 16, 2010, 07:15:32 PM
Vice City works great.  Never played the other ones.  The only issue I can recall is in the auto-targeting.  I've never been able to get it to work but I've beaten the whole game a few times without it anyway.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Steve-O on May 16, 2010, 11:49:58 PM
Weird.  I've never had any performance issue with any of the GTA IIIs.

Nor auto-targeting, since I use the mouse/keyboard for all of my on-foot murderin' and lootin'.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Chaos on May 17, 2010, 03:38:33 PM
Might have to give this one a try, after seeing what they're doing with the open world multiplayer. That could be awesome, if it's handled well. I do love me some wild west action... if anyone can make a game that is actually fun in that setting, it's probably Rockstar.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 17, 2010, 05:05:39 PM
Their next game has me pretty excited too, LA Noire, which is an open-world detective game set in the 50s. 
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 17, 2010, 07:11:42 PM
Their next game has me pretty excited too, LA Noire, which is an open-world detective game set in the 50s. 

Oh HELL YES!

But back to the prior topic... less than two hours! *happygasms* I called up Meijer (like a Wal-Mart, but limited to Michigan and a few surrounding states. Also, not pure evil) to make sure they'd be selling it at 12:01. They're not really a video game store so I wanted to make sure before I made the trip down there in the dead of night.

To tide everyone over, Gametrailers put up a review while I was napping.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-red-dead/100286
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 17, 2010, 07:29:08 PM
Doesn't come out until Friday here.  Looks fantastic.  I got tired of the GTA series, because no matter how good it is, I'm tired of the setting.  Westerns are barely touched upon and seem perfect for an open-world game. 
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on May 17, 2010, 09:02:07 PM
thanks for telling me about the la noire one, that sounds just up my alley mr b
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 17, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Back.

Apparently Meijer sells midnight release titles up front at the middle cash register. Which is a good idea, they just need to do a better job of letting me know that! I could've gotten in and out quicker if I didn't have to go clear to the back of the store, wait around fifteen minutes checking watch and thinking WTF, before tracking down an employee and having HER tell me where I can get it.

Oh well, at any rate, time to get my Red Dead on.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 17, 2010, 10:22:06 PM
Yeah. Love it already. And I already did something that made me laugh out loud because I was NOT expecting it.

I won't say what, though. I'll just let it be something you discover on your own.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 18, 2010, 03:20:29 AM
So far: Excellent.

However, expect a lot of ambushes and to die a lot of cheap deaths. I know that's all part of the lawless they were going for, but I think it detracts from the game. Whenever you're just out exploring and you get ambushed and shot and killed almost instantly and re-spawn: it takes you RIGHT OUT of the game, and out of the setting.

I mean, that's just my opinion. Others might go for that. But for me, again, I think it takes you out of the moment and brings the experience to a grinding halt.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 18, 2010, 06:38:22 PM
Just picked it up at Best Buy, and the copy I grabbed from the shelf still had the pre-order "Get a free War Horse" thingie inside!  Pre-order THIS, suckers!  Ha ha ha ha ha!

I basically got through the first mission.  It's intriguing, different from Call of Juarez, but good.  Haven't died yet, though, so I might have a different opinion after that happens about five times...an opinion along the lines of "You lousy, cheap, no good, four flushing, toad-licking, dirt-eating..."  Just watch Christmas Vacation, you'll get the idea.   ;D
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 18, 2010, 06:42:34 PM
Did you get the PS3 version? I think that has some sort of exclusive content on it.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 18, 2010, 07:01:54 PM
Yeah, the wrapper said something about extra content...I don't know if it's included or it'll be downloadable soon, but the War Horse thingie was the Best Buy pre-order thing.  I never, ever pre-order, and the only time I've ever gotten skunked on the free add-on crap was Uncharted 2, where I missed out on the gold weapons.  Let me see real quick...

*looks for bag and plastic wrap*

"Playstation 3 Exclusive Content Includes Solomon's Folly gang Hideout and Walton Gang Outfit!"  The exclamation point is what's on the wrapper, not mine.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on May 18, 2010, 07:44:52 PM
the only thing i've preordered was heavy rain and i haven't played it for a while and i got a free copy of the dlc of the texidermist, which otherwise would have cost me all of $5 :P
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Chaos on May 18, 2010, 09:03:26 PM
I got the lame-ass energy knives and not-quite-as-lame Uncharted 2 beta pre-order bonuses from InFamous, though I bought it in the store on release day. Another one of those deals where the pre-order sticker was right there on all the copies sitting on the shelf. ;)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on May 18, 2010, 09:13:38 PM
energy knives for infamous? yeah i downloaded them for free a while ago, after i beat the game with the good ending :P haven't really played it since
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 18, 2010, 09:32:43 PM
Well, that was fun.  I got through a bunch of crap, never died once, and was about to buy the next safehouse and save, when a guy challenged me to a duel.  Figured I'd do it, stepped outside, and...

The system froze.  2 hours of work gone.

Damn it.   :grr:
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 19, 2010, 05:58:28 AM
Speaking of DLC:

(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/871587546_8WNjR-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 19, 2010, 09:45:27 AM
And gloriously, Amazon have sent my copy out early.  I'll get it tomorrow, though I've gotta take care of my nephew during the day.  Stupid babies.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: MWolf on May 20, 2010, 12:00:20 AM
I love this game!... One horribly bad thing... Invisible enemies/guns/horses/yourself in multiplayer? What the f!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Rattrap007 on May 20, 2010, 09:33:02 AM
Been playing single player. Damn is it fun. Been in 2 duels. Shot the gun out of the guys hand in both duels. So freakin awesome to do that.

Got an avatar award for shooting a guy's hat off.

Love the random helping people bit. There are super quick and fun. Saved a guy's wife from being hanged, saved a few people from coyotes, saved a few people who were ambushed. Brought in several bounties.
 
Donned a bandanna and hogtied a woman (who did the stage coach ambush) and dropped her on the tracks in front of a train. Fun to watch her splat.. :D

Some weird random things too. Saw a guy race up his horse past me only to stop at a trock and hop off. I think he needs help.. Nope.. he starts pissing on the rock right in front of me. LOL
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 20, 2010, 12:56:23 PM
I've played it for a few hours now.  I'm really enjoying it.  I've mainly been doing the story missions and just grit my teeth through lassoing horses.  That was a pain in the ass. 
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: wurwolf on May 20, 2010, 04:00:17 PM
I've been thinking about getting this since I've seen the ads around so I can watch APGIL play it. Is it basically Grand Theft Auto in the old west? Plays the same, I mean, just a different setting?
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 20, 2010, 04:03:32 PM
I've been thinking about getting this since I've seen the ads around so I can watch APGIL play it. Is it basically Grand Theft Auto in the old west? Plays the same, I mean, just a different setting?

It shares a lot of the same mechanics, but I think there's enough different about it that it's not just "GTA with horses."

My ultimate goal is to get one of those brown dusters that you can see in the outfits menu.  I wanna look like I'm from Leone's Once upon a Time in the West.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: wurwolf on May 20, 2010, 04:17:13 PM
Okay, yeah. We're definitely getting this, hopefully soon.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on May 20, 2010, 07:44:03 PM
yeah i want to too, though i think after i move cause i spend too much time on borderlands as it is
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 20, 2010, 09:29:22 PM
Can't figure out how to properly cheat at poker.  Hmm.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: wurwolf on May 21, 2010, 09:55:28 AM
By happy coincidence we got our tax refund today. Guess what we're buying this weekend!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: MWolf on May 21, 2010, 09:56:32 AM
By happy coincidence we got our tax refund today. Guess what we're buying this weekend!

A piano?
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 21, 2010, 11:59:18 AM
Heh.  There are some weird bugs with the game - I got the duster coat, but the tail of it clips through practically everything.  When I escorted Dickens into Armadillo, after the mission was done, his cart flipped into the air and his horse stood on top of it for a second. 

I guess that's something you'll always see with open-world games.  At least it hasn't broken any quests for me yet.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 21, 2010, 03:17:18 PM
By happy coincidence we got our tax refund today. Guess what we're buying this weekend!

Hookers and crack?
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 21, 2010, 03:21:35 PM
I just had to chase down a horse thief for someone. The horse ran off, so I wasn't able to collect my reward. BUT, it means the game left me standing there with a hog-tied horse thief and my own imagination.

I dumped him without untying him north of Armadillo in cougar territory. I didn't stick around and wait for one to show up, though. Cougars are dangerous as hell in that game. They're just as liable to kill me or my horse. So, I took off and let my imagination play out the fun part.

Although I know realize I had some bait. I should've left some of that next to him.

Oh well, I'm sure another opportunity will present itself.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on May 21, 2010, 03:22:27 PM
i really want this game now :P
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 21, 2010, 04:00:49 PM
Went into the multiplayer, something I rarely do in a game.  I enjoyed it.  The free roaming mode can be a little hectic (here's tip for first starting out - leave everyone alone and go find some weapons, they'll help enormously).  If anyone's on XBox live, send me a friend request so we can go a-hunting.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: MWolf on May 21, 2010, 10:02:27 PM
By happy coincidence we got our tax refund today. Guess what we're buying this weekend!

Hookers and crack?

Thats what I bought with my refund... =D
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 21, 2010, 10:47:09 PM
Oop, found a major bug..."Mysterious Horse Disappearance Syndrome."  That's right, your horse can mysteriously be replaced by another one, through no fault of your own.

I was over in Thieves' Landing, enjoying myself and having a fun time, but then it was time to leave and get on with things.  So, I whistle and call my horse.

The one that arrived was NOT the one I came into town with.  Or was riding not more then 3 minutes earlier, when I dropped off a robber in front of a shopkeep.

Yep, apparently your horse will be stupid enough to wander to its death in the lovely water that surrounds town (and yes, apparently wandering into two feet of water will kill you), or somebody wandered up and stole the damn thing when I wasn't looking for three whole minutes.  What makes it even worse, this was after a Benny Hill-esque bounty hunt, where I spent about five minutes lassoing a guy off of his horse, attempting to hogtie him, only to have our hero jump onto HIS horse, he jumped onto MY horse, several times.  In fact, I think I had to lasso his ass about 25 times (no exaggeration) before the game figured out that maybe, just maybe, I was trying to TIE HIM UP.  And I finally did get my faithful steed back...only to have this cockamamie thing happen with no explanation.

This is especially annoying because...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

*Bangs head on wall nosily for 20 minutes, passes out, wakes up, bangs head again, but stops before passing out*
I thought games were supposed to be fun.  I WAS having fun.  I want to like this game, but every time I do, it puts a revolver to my face and pulls the trigger.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 22, 2010, 05:20:47 AM
I had the exact same thing happen.  I'd lassoed the most expensive horse in the game, purely by accident, and began to use it for missions.  There was one where I fought some guys by the lake and when I'd finished, I could clearly see the horse in the distance.  I whistled, and it ran straight off the cliff into the water!

I actually thought it was kinda funny.  :)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 22, 2010, 09:22:52 AM
It is kind of funny, but I was just so frustrated that the horse I had spent so much time trying to hang onto just up and vanished (and autosaved as the new one) that I just wasn't seeing the humor in it just then.

Thinking back, though, that bounty hunt, annoyance aside, was probably one of the most memorable moments I've had in the game.  Now that I understand the lasso stays intact if you hold down auto-target, NOT the fire button, it's been working much, much better, but man, every time I'd grabbed him, he'd ignore the guy on the ground and hop up onto his steed.  It was the most ridiculous thing.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 22, 2010, 10:58:29 AM
Yeah, I'm not the hugest fan of Bounty Hunting, myself.  Let's just say I don't bring 'em in alive.  :)

Made it to Mexico, woo!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 23, 2010, 11:33:07 AM
Thinking back, though, that bounty hunt, annoyance aside, was probably one of the most memorable moments I've had in the game.  Now that I understand the lasso stays intact if you hold down auto-target, NOT the fire button, it's been working much, much better, but man, every time I'd grabbed him, he'd ignore the guy on the ground and hop up onto his steed.  It was the most ridiculous thing.

THAT'S how you keep them lassoed. I've been having a hard time with that, too. I'd try to quick run over and hogtie him. Sometimes I'd get there in time, sometimes I'd get shot.

The thing I hate about bounty hunting, though, is John won't KEEP HIS DAMNED MOUTH SHUT! Hey, you can call him out if you want, but PLEASE let me get some cover before you do.

There is another thing I like to do with my lasso, though. Have you ever noticed that guy who stands in front of the saloon in Armadillo and yells out scripture and calls everyone inside sinners, etc. He annoys me, so whenever I see him, I pull him to the ground with that fine piece of rope I have at my waist. I hogtied him once, too. And my honor is high enough that no one really minds. I also like to think it's because he annoys everyone ELSE in town.

ALTHOUGH, there was that time I thought I had my lasso equipped, but it turned out I had my six-shooter equipped. And... um... yeah... that one didn't go over as well.

The problem with games like this where virtually every action has consequences is that there's a lot of situations where you press the wrong button or the targeting goes wonky on you, and you end up doing something you didn't mean to do. And I can't really see how they could program a game like this to tell the difference.

To Rockstar's credit, though, the consequences aren't that severe. A forty-dollar bounty and 50 honor points is pretty easy to make up. One good deed and a couple skinned wolves will pretty much erase that murder you accidentally committed. I think with this one they really knew the parts where it just didn't work as great as they hoped, so they accommodated it. There's a lot of checkpoints in the missions, it's not that hard to ditch a wanted level in case you accidentally F up.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 23, 2010, 11:39:27 AM
The problem with games like this where virtually every action has consequences is that there's a lot of situations where you press the wrong button or the targeting goes wonky on you, and you end up doing something you didn't mean to do. And I can't really see how they could program a game like this to tell the difference.

I had that problem in the start.  A man ran out of the desert and I got down to help him.  Instead, he jumped up and stole my horse.  The quickest and easiest way to stop them is to call your horse back, and it throws the person who stole it.  Then I went and shot the person who stole the horse, and got a Wanted level for my trouble.  I shoot horse thieves all the time, yet someone who steals my horse is apparently an innocent? Not fair!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Moleman on May 23, 2010, 03:42:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/9lpTuNUTd8I
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 23, 2010, 04:02:17 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 24, 2010, 09:42:19 AM
I'm in Mexico now myself. I have killed SO MANY wolves since I got there.

I killed about 30 on my way into town, and then about 60 when I was heading back north to do some hunting challenges.

And, no, killing 60 wolves isn't part of that. The problem was they kept coming faster than I could skin the bastards. I'd take out one pack, and almost have them skinned, and I'd hear barking and have to kill the new wolves who otherwise would've, you know, eaten me.

That seems a bit much to me. I made a SHIT TON of money, though. About 3,500 bucks.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 24, 2010, 07:30:16 PM
Still waiting on my HDMI cable to play this is in all its high-res glory. That's why I haven't powered through the game quite as fast as I normally would've. I wanna play this game the way it's INTENDED to be played.

FedEx got my screen here in four days, two of them were the weekend, from Arizona (I live in Michigan). If my cable comes tomorrow, it'll be day ELEVEN, from Georgia. You suck, UPS.

What can brown do for me?

Make me wait.

And I'm starting to see why their corporate color is brown...

(Oh, and this relates to the topic because I'll be enjoying Red Dead Redemption-- and ALL my PS3 games, really-- a lot more when I can play them in HD.)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 24, 2010, 07:38:19 PM
Wait, wait, wait...you've got Red Dead, a PS3, AND live in Michigan, and we haven't traded screen names?  In the name of Odin's Raven, what is going on here?   ;D

Oh, and yes, HD is a fine thing.  If you haven't had them set up with an HDMI, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised...although I wonder why the PS3 always seems to opt for the 720p option whenever possible, even on PS3 exclusives.  They think we (or the PS3) can't handle the 1080?

Game does look awesome, though.

Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on May 24, 2010, 07:55:45 PM
it depends on the game, most say that they only output in 720p though most of the newer ones are 1080p
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on May 24, 2010, 09:36:05 PM
Wait, wait, wait...you've got Red Dead, a PS3, AND live in Michigan, and we haven't traded screen names?  In the name of Odin's Raven, what is going on here?   ;D

Oh, and yes, HD is a fine thing.  If you haven't had them set up with an HDMI, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised...although I wonder why the PS3 always seems to opt for the 720p option whenever possible, even on PS3 exclusives.  They think we (or the PS3) can't handle the 1080?

Game does look awesome, though.



nrrork

same as for here.

Yeah, I'll probably give the multi-player a try once, you know, MY DAMN CABLE GETS HERE.

I'll be able to play FFXIII, too. It was just unplayable on a regular TV. I couldn't read a damned thing. That's been a real problem with ALL my PS3 games, actually. But that was the only one where it was too big a problem.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 27, 2010, 07:01:25 PM
Ok, last kinda/sorta bitchy moment, since I do actually like the game again, but it's yet again one of those "Why give trophies to stuff when you know anonymous strangers online are complete douches" moments...

All right, the (kind of) short version.  Got Public Enemy status.  Fended off wave after wave of lawmen, in the Armadillo saloon, by myself.  I don't know if I'd had that status for 10 minutes, but I was in there a damn long time.  Then, I had to get my 'Wanted' status cleared, so I cleaned up the last few lawmen I saw, jumped on my horse, and rode off...

For Mr. Triggy Happy to test out his new 3-shot Hyper Repeater on my back.  And again when I respawned.  And again.  And again.  And again.  I couldn't even run for cover before I kept getting gunned down.  And apparently shooting at him just once was enough to make him super-vindictive.  Granted, I did kill his horse, but it was after he'd shot me twice, without me even fighting back, and I don't think it made him any more of a jackass than he already was.

I've been saying this a lot lately, but I honestly, truly do not understand what drives people, when there is no reward, no benefit, and quite frankly, no reason to randomly bother others online, other than to prove to the entire world that your genitals are, in fact, very small, and you get your jollies by ruining the good times of others.  I mean, I know it happens everywhere and this isn't an isolated incident, but dammit, I just don't understand the mindset that causes people to let out their innermost dingleberry when they get an internet connection.

Sometimes these guys do get what they deserve, though...this isn't Red Dead-related, but it fits the tone, and it's a good story.  My friend was in a game of Warcraft when he had an annoying a-hole bothering him and his group.  He told the guy to knock it off, and that he wouldn't be so brave in real life, staring down a brown belt in karate.  The guy kept it up, saying, "Yeah, you're just saying that, EVERYBODY'S a karate expert, nyah, nyah, nyah."

My friend then directed him to Facebook, which had a picture of him in his brown belt uniform breaking boards in midair, as well as other pictures and videos of him doing stunts for local movies.

My friend then got a PM from this guy, saying, "Dude, I humbly apologize for everything I have said, I had no idea, I sometimes just get carried away." ;D

Hmmm...maybe I should put up pictures of me in my black belt (I go to the same karate school), but I just don't care enough about Facebook to bother.

P.S.  Oh, and for some reason, Thieves' Landing is cursed for me.  Every time I go there, something truly despicable happens, whether it's getting to town at night, waiting for the stores to open, only to find the ONE store in the place I was waiting for had the shopkeep murdered overnight, to chasing villains right into the swamp and drowning (why do programmers hate swimming animations?), to stealing horses via trickery and/or chicanery, to having the duel controls start acting inappropriately for odd reason.  Don't get me wrong, it's actually funny, but I've never seen a town this vindictive to the player since Silent Hill.

See?  I kept this nice and short.   ;D
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: MWolf on May 29, 2010, 09:20:56 AM
Yesterday I was clearing out a posse of 6 guys as they were camping a fort... They attacked anyone who came near and I saw it as a challenge and annihlated them over and over with dynomite and sniper rifles. While they were retreating, all together in the front, I threw some more dynomite and killed 4-5 at one time. I effing love this game!

Anyways the point of killing eachother in Free Roam is just to have fun. If someone asks me not to kill them I usualy move on. If they complain or cuss at me.... Then I stalk them and kill them over and over. For me its all about attitude.


ALSO, Does anyone have a website with the multiplayer unlocks?
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on May 30, 2010, 08:20:43 PM
Bug update: No idea how it happened, but I suddenly couldn't use the Y button in the game.  It would work for the menus, but I couldn't get on my horse, save the game or anything associated with choosing events.  Weird.  Luckily I'd saved it just before it happened. 
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 30, 2010, 09:47:11 PM
ALSO, Does anyone have a website with the multiplayer unlocks?

No idea.  I'm guessing the last horse is probably high up on the list, but most of what I've unlocked so far is titles and characters.  Mostly lowlifes.  But, that's what I guess you get a lower levels.

Speaking of ways to get those levels, I did discover a tip if you go knife a-hunting the more dangerous game...*cough cough* BEARS *cough cough*

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cripes, now I'm hooked on this AND Battlefield 2...I may never sleep again at this rate.  "Eh, I just want to earn this last thing...find this last location...one more plant to collect...what time is it?  5 O'CLOCK?  That gives me just enough time to finish this hideout!"   ;D

EDIT: Oh, and some really, really good news!  Apparently, you can still get XP in Private Multiplayer games.  I didn't think that was possible, since every other online game in the world only lets you get level ups in public games.  So, you only have to worry about trophies and achievements in public matches, while you can run around hunting, collecting, and all that crap in peace and quiet with your buddies without worrying about missing out on higher level stuff.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: wurwolf on May 31, 2010, 07:22:26 PM
We finally got Red Dead Revolver Rockstar Redemption last night and the general consensus in my house is "FUCKING AWESOME!!!!1!!!!" APGIL and my daughter have been playing it pretty much nonstop. The video games I actually play are few and far between but I love watching people play them, and this is a really fun game to watch. Lots of missions, etc.

I expected it to be like GTA and while it is there is enough about it that sets it aside from its predecessor. The scenery is beautiful and the horses are gorgeous. I don't know about gameplay since I've never actually played it but I haven't heard any complaints.

The best improvement over Liberty City, in my opinion, is that I can understand everyone! No crazy accents like there are in Liberty City (Little Jacob was completely lost on me).
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on May 31, 2010, 09:10:35 PM
The best improvement over Liberty City, in my opinion, is that I can understand everyone! No crazy accents like there are in Liberty City (Little Jacob was completely lost on me).

Nah understah Lil Jakah, mah?  I teh, evyting he seh jus soun sah cleah, nah?

(Good grief, it was difficult just WRITING that.)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: wurwolf on June 01, 2010, 04:53:26 AM
The best improvement over Liberty City, in my opinion, is that I can understand everyone! No crazy accents like there are in Liberty City (Little Jacob was completely lost on me).

Nah understah Lil Jakah, mah?  I teh, evyting he seh jus soun sah cleah, nah?

(Good grief, it was difficult just WRITING that.)

 :D
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Bob on June 01, 2010, 10:36:23 AM
Okay, I have $50 best buy gift card and the commericals for this game look pretty sweet.    Can I ask a couple questions about the game to see if this is something I really should buy?

I REALLY dont like games where you have to wander around and solve stupid puzzles before you can advance and so something different.   I dont mind challenges where you have to complete a mission before moving on, but I do like to meander and explore things.   I REALLY hate games where you have impossible missions where you have to pick up on your own, some kind of button mashing move to progress.   Is this the game for me?
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on June 01, 2010, 11:06:36 AM
Okay, I have $50 best buy gift card and the commericals for this game look pretty sweet.    Can I ask a couple questions about the game to see if this is something I really should buy?

I REALLY dont like games where you have to wander around and solve stupid puzzles before you can advance and so something different.   I dont mind challenges where you have to complete a mission before moving on, but I do like to meander and explore things.   I REALLY hate games where you have impossible missions where you have to pick up on your own, some kind of button mashing move to progress.   Is this the game for me?

It's not really like that.  The structure is basically this: it's an open-world game with mission markers on the map.  You can take them in pretty much in any order, though in terms of storyline, it'll eventually take you down the plot path.  There are a bunch of side-quests (also optional) called "Stranger" missions, plus random encounters which you can choose to ignore too.  There's ALSO hunting, gathering, and sharpshooter challenges that'll passively record your progress as you make your way through the game, though you can decide to focus on them if you want.  Not to mention the pretty awesome mini-games: Texas Hold 'em, Horseshoes, Blackjack, Arm Wrestling, and Liar's Dice (probably my favourite). 

The main missions really break down into escort, defend or kill objectives, and are well enough defined that you're never stuck as to how to complete them.  I don't think there's one puzzle in the entire game.  Shooting is really, really easy - a press of the right trigger near a bad guy, and it'll snap straight to his body, with no real aiming involved, plus you have the Dead Eye metre which slows down time and allows you to string together shots.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Bob on June 01, 2010, 11:16:39 AM
Okay, I have $50 best buy gift card and the commericals for this game look pretty sweet.    Can I ask a couple questions about the game to see if this is something I really should buy?

I REALLY dont like games where you have to wander around and solve stupid puzzles before you can advance and so something different.   I dont mind challenges where you have to complete a mission before moving on, but I do like to meander and explore things.   I REALLY hate games where you have impossible missions where you have to pick up on your own, some kind of button mashing move to progress.   Is this the game for me?

It's not really like that.  The structure is basically this: it's an open-world game with mission markers on the map.  You can take them in pretty much in any order, though in terms of storyline, it'll eventually take you down the plot path.  There are a bunch of side-quests (also optional) called "Stranger" missions, plus random encounters which you can choose to ignore too.  There's ALSO hunting, gathering, and sharpshooter challenges that'll passively record your progress as you make your way through the game, though you can decide to focus on them if you want.  Not to mention the pretty awesome mini-games: Texas Hold 'em, Horseshoes, Blackjack, Arm Wrestling, and Liar's Dice (probably my favourite). 

The main missions really break down into escort, defend or kill objectives, and are well enough defined that you're never stuck as to how to complete them.  I don't think there's one puzzle in the entire game.  Shooting is really, really easy - a press of the right trigger near a bad guy, and it'll snap straight to his body, with no real aiming involved, plus you have the Dead Eye metre which slows down time and allows you to string together shots.

Awesome!   Thank you for the synopsis...... I am sold!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on June 01, 2010, 04:01:19 PM
The main missions really break down into escort, defend or kill objectives, and are well enough defined that you're never stuck as to how to complete them.  I don't think there's one puzzle in the entire game.  Shooting is really, really easy - a press of the right trigger near a bad guy, and it'll snap straight to his body, with no real aiming involved, plus you have the Dead Eye metre which slows down time and allows you to string together shots.

The aiming depends on the options settings...the lowest is auto-target (I think, haven't tried it), the middle one is manual aim unless the target is in a general area in front of you (and it's a big area), and the highest setting is full, manual aim only.  You're not punished for selecting a particular one, so choose whichever one works best for you.  There IS a trophy/achievement for getting a headshot on the "Expert" aiming setting, but you can go right back to your favorite one once you pull that off, if you're interested in that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on June 01, 2010, 08:36:24 PM
The main missions really break down into escort, defend or kill objectives, and are well enough defined that you're never stuck as to how to complete them.  I don't think there's one puzzle in the entire game.  Shooting is really, really easy - a press of the right trigger near a bad guy, and it'll snap straight to his body, with no real aiming involved, plus you have the Dead Eye metre which slows down time and allows you to string together shots.

The aiming depends on the options settings...the lowest is auto-target (I think, haven't tried it), the middle one is manual aim unless the target is in a general area in front of you (and it's a big area), and the highest setting is full, manual aim only.  You're not punished for selecting a particular one, so choose whichever one works best for you.  There IS a trophy/achievement for getting a headshot on the "Expert" aiming setting, but you can go right back to your favorite one once you pull that off, if you're interested in that sort of thing.

That's true, though it's not something I'd personally use (except to get the achievement, of course ;))

Finally found my first (and second, third and fourth) Grizzly.  Not too bad with the semi-automatic shotgun, but one of the SOBs ambushed me and destroyed my horse.  I was up near the cabin in the snow and fled in there and took him out as he couldn't enter.  Have moved on to Blackwater, so I guess I'm now in the last third of the game, plotwise.  Still tonnes to do though.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: wurwolf on June 01, 2010, 10:24:18 PM
the Dead Eye metre

For some reason my daughter calls this "Cowboy Time". She'll be like, Oh, I'm going to use Cowboy Time on this guy." It cracks me up every time.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Dale Zawada on June 02, 2010, 06:47:48 PM
the Dead Eye metre

For some reason my daughter calls this "Cowboy Time". She'll be like, Oh, I'm going to use Cowboy Time on this guy." It cracks me up every time.

My lady friend calls it "Red Dead" 

"Oh I got red dead"

"I know.  We're playing it right now."

Women.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on June 03, 2010, 06:51:41 AM
Completed the Treasure Hunter challenge, which is fairly simple when you unlock all the areas.  Also got to level 9 on the survivalist challenge, which could be crazy hard - I haven't attempted it yet, but it looks like it encompasses all of the game.  Killed some Cougars with my melee knife.  Pro tip: crouch and have medicine!   I also found out that if you buy a horse from a General Store, you can call upon it whenever you want, and you'll get another one if it dies. 

I spent 4 hours on the game yesterday and didn't do one story mission.  :)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on June 03, 2010, 12:40:29 PM
That's the problem with these games...so much crap happens that's NOT part of the main storyline...well, I guess it's sort of the opposite with GTA IV.  That's the only one of all the Rockstar 'Open World' games that seems to have made all the secondary stuff pretty dang secondary, or, at least not as fun as the previous ones used to be...who the crap said, "You know, there should only be 1 Infernus in the entire game, just so the players cry when they destroy it and save," I ask?   ;D

Survivalist isn't actually all that hard...I'm up to the "Unlock West Elizabeth" level of collectibles (since I...haven't unlocked West Elizabeth yet), and the only one that was difficult was the Butterfly Weed (I ended up buying the map, only to realize most of the Butterfly Weed isn't IN the area the challenge tells you to look for it, which is why it was so hard in the first place).

Across the board, though, I think the hardest are a toss-up between the Hunter and Sharpshooter, with MP Sharpshooter being balls-out difficult.  The one challenge I can't seem to do is "Shoot an opponent's hat off, then disarm him, all within 3 seconds of each other."  I swear I've done this 4 times now, and apparently I've done no better than 3.1 seconds.  I actually managed to AUTO-TARGET a hat and a gun one right after the other and it STILL didn't count.  I don't know what sort of timing they're looking for, but it's ridiculous.  And this was after "shoot off two different opponent's hats within 5 seconds of each other," which was damn hard enough to do.

Hunter is easier in MP, because your horse can be sacrificed pretty easily to bait the tougher stuff.  But yeah, knifing two cougars while trying to keep your mount alive at the same time is tricky business.  Now my problem is trying to hunt and skin foxes, raccoons, and skunks, and the game has finally decided to stop spawning them.  I was almost knee-deep in the things before the challenge came up.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on June 03, 2010, 01:01:22 PM
That's the problem with these games...so much crap happens that's NOT part of the main storyline...well, I guess it's sort of the opposite with GTA IV.  That's the only one of all the Rockstar 'Open World' games that seems to have made all the secondary stuff pretty dang secondary, or, at least not as fun as the previous ones used to be...who the crap said, "You know, there should only be 1 Infernus in the entire game, just so the players cry when they destroy it and save," I ask?   ;D

Survivalist isn't actually all that hard...I'm up to the "Unlock West Elizabeth" level of collectibles (since I...haven't unlocked West Elizabeth yet), and the only one that was difficult was the Butterfly Weed (I ended up buying the map, only to realize most of the Butterfly Weed isn't IN the area the challenge tells you to look for it, which is why it was so hard in the first place).

Across the board, though, I think the hardest are a toss-up between the Hunter and Sharpshooter, with MP Sharpshooter being balls-out difficult.  The one challenge I can't seem to do is "Shoot an opponent's hat off, then disarm him, all within 3 seconds of each other."  I swear I've done this 4 times now, and apparently I've done no better than 3.1 seconds.  I actually managed to AUTO-TARGET a hat and a gun one right after the other and it STILL didn't count.  I don't know what sort of timing they're looking for, but it's ridiculous.  And this was after "shoot off two different opponent's hats within 5 seconds of each other," which was damn hard enough to do.

Hunter is easier in MP, because your horse can be sacrificed pretty easily to bait the tougher stuff.  But yeah, knifing two cougars while trying to keep your mount alive at the same time is tricky business.  Now my problem is trying to hunt and skin foxes, raccoons, and skunks, and the game has finally decided to stop spawning them.  I was almost knee-deep in the things before the challenge came up.

Yeah, survivalist wasn't too terrible.  I'm on the same Hunter level as you.  I found the foxes easily enough, but I'm coming up completely short on Skunks and Raccoons.  The sharpshooter level I'm on involves killing 2 types of animal in one dead eye metre, and I swear I did it, but I guess birds and land animals don't qualify.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on June 03, 2010, 01:25:53 PM
what else is there then? :P
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Compound on June 03, 2010, 01:35:35 PM
Well, there are some whales in that stream by Hanging Rock. Maybe you need to shoot them.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on June 03, 2010, 01:40:44 PM
what else is there then? :P

What I meant was that shooting a bird and then a land animal doesn't count.  Neither does 2 birds.  I followed a cow around for a little while, hoping for another species would come near, and then I got ninja'ed by a Cougar. 
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on June 03, 2010, 03:02:41 PM
Skunks and raccoons come out at night, I've noticed that much, though where to find raccoons is sort of a crapshoot, as far as I can tell.  I know for certain skunk can be found around Ojo del Diablo, since I got about 2 or 3 while searching for treasure around there, and I ran into plenty of fox north of the McFarlane Ranch...but then, 90% of everything in the game can be found north of the McFarlane Ranch, just not all at the same time.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Dale Zawada on June 04, 2010, 11:35:15 AM
The trick to that 'shoot hat off\disarm in 3 seconds' thing is to...forget about it.  Then whenever you're gunfighting and you see it say "hat shot" just aim for the midsection and hope to god you hit the gun.

Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on June 04, 2010, 04:57:27 PM
Finally made it up to West Elizabeth. I *LOVE* the way Blackwater is designed. Beautiful town.

But I shot myself a beaver up in the mountains, and call me immature if you must, but I snickered like a 12-year-old when I skinned it and found myself in possession of "beaver fur."

That was after I had to restart because a bear killed my horse. Damn bear, Stephen Colbert was right, they're a real danger.

hehehe....

Beaver fur.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on June 04, 2010, 05:16:55 PM
WHAT THE FUCK!?

When the hell did bears start traveling packs? Did they put ANY thought into this. This is worse than down in Mexico when I'd be in the same spot killing wave after wave after wave of wolves.

Although I'm mostly pissed off because everything I had between then and my last save is now GONE!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on June 04, 2010, 05:35:50 PM
You had a pack of bears? That sounds rough.  I've had 2 in close vicinity, but I've never been ambushed by them, like an effing cougar. 

I found the best weapon to deal with bears is the semi-automatic shotgun.  I've got the buffalo rifle now, but I haven't tried it yet.  I'm not too keen on hunting around up in those mountains.  It's bloody deadly.  :)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on June 04, 2010, 06:03:06 PM
Damn I really want this game now :P...must wait til I move...must wait til move :P
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on June 07, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
Just finished it.  Really good game.  I think I loved its presentation a little more than the gameplay, and the characters more than the plot. 

Big, huge spoilers ahead:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Now I'll just dive back into it and see about getting some more of those achievements, depending on their time investment costs.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FBX on June 08, 2010, 12:55:55 AM
I rented it and after a while I noticed a trend with the missions:

hear people talk about back-story
travel to some place while talking about back story
kill 50 people
win mission or
kill 50 more people
then win mission
repeat

Of course there are a few other missions but after crossing into mexico this is how I felt things were moving.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on June 10, 2010, 09:48:46 AM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-red-dead-redemption-hates-women/

Seanbaby, I don't know how to quit you!

I think only the guys here at Rifftrax have provided me as many moments of just prolonged stretches of overwhelming laughter.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on June 10, 2010, 09:50:46 AM
Woah! Light bulb!

Seanbaby needs to be a guest Riffer!

It might be too much funny for the space-time continuum to handle, but, I mean, if it's THAT funny, the universe might as well end. Everything would seem like a huge downer from then on anyway...
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on June 11, 2010, 01:37:32 AM
Now I'll just dive back into it and see about getting some more of those achievements, depending on their time investment costs.

If you're going for 100%, just to let you know, you need to collect 20 bounties.  Doesn't matter where, just 20 out of the 45 different ones.  Figure this is a bit of a non-spoiler, since the game doesn't ever TELL you this, it just gives you 0.1% every time you get one, and I found this out after doing everything else in the game, figuring bounties were just sort of a nice side benefit.  So, when you get them, DON'T pass them up...it's very annoying waiting around in towns playing poker and blackjack waiting for the little skull to pop up.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FordPrefect on June 11, 2010, 02:21:40 AM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1776-Red-Dead-Redemption

If anybody can embed this video here, please feel free to do so.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on June 11, 2010, 04:38:19 AM
Now I'll just dive back into it and see about getting some more of those achievements, depending on their time investment costs.

If you're going for 100%, just to let you know, you need to collect 20 bounties.  Doesn't matter where, just 20 out of the 45 different ones.  Figure this is a bit of a non-spoiler, since the game doesn't ever TELL you this, it just gives you 0.1% every time you get one, and I found this out after doing everything else in the game, figuring bounties were just sort of a nice side benefit.  So, when you get them, DON'T pass them up...it's very annoying waiting around in towns playing poker and blackjack waiting for the little skull to pop up.

I didn't know that, thanks.  I don't think I want to spend that amount of time on it though.  I cleared some of the easier achievements (hideouts, knockouts, and the $5000 dollar bounty) but I think that might be my lot for the game. 
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on June 12, 2010, 12:34:07 AM
Actually, I figured out how to 'fool' the game into giving you bounties!  After I wandered aimlessly for about an hour and a half, of course.   ;D

The thing is, the game generates bounties like any other random event...every so often, if you pass by the right area, something will happen, be it stagecoach robbery, horse thief, escort mission, or what have you.  But if you're standing in a building, chances are you won't get one of those events, because nobody ever runs into a building to bother you (well, except for stores, but it's rare).

So, if you're in, say, a hotel room somewhere, or the government building in Blackwater, or the Police Station in Chuparosa, and you wait long enough, the game can't generate an appropriate random event to annoy you, so it'll post a bounty.  So far, it's worked twice for me, and boy, is it ever so less annoying than riding from town to town just hoping they have a bounty posted.

EDIT: Well, found out that it's SLIGHTLY different rules to getting this...you have to catch 8 bounties in New Austin, 8 in Nuevo Paraiso, and 4 in West Elizabeth.  You know, 20 SPECIFIC bounties.  But waiting in the town buildings does work...as long as it's proper working hours (7 AM to 11 PM or so).  Bounties pop up like you wouldn't believe if you follow those rules.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on June 18, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Finished the main game the other night.

I don't want to go into specifics for those who maybe haven't finished it yet, but...

I hated, hated, hated, HATED! HATED! HATED! HATED!
HATED!

...the ending. (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080328213030/finalfantasy/images/6/67/KefkaStill.png)

Which is a shame, because I absolutely love this game. Even that stuff I complained about early on stopped being nearly as big an issue as I got to learn the controls, and how to really use the dead eye well, etc. It's been every bit as good as I was looking forward to it being, which was a real breath of fresh air because GTAIV disappointed the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on June 18, 2010, 04:08:51 PM
But this game DID introduce me to Liar's Dice. I'd never even heard of that game before, but it's really fun, it's just too bad I was almost at the end of the game before I got around to giving it a try.

I was never that nuts for Texas Hold'em, so I'm glad this game is in there.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on June 18, 2010, 05:22:43 PM
But this game DID introduce me to Liar's Dice. I'd never even heard of that game before, but it's really fun, it's just too bad I was almost at the end of the game before I got around to giving it a try.

LIAR!   ;D

I like that game, too; believe it or not, I first played it thanks to the mini-game included with the PotC: Dead Man's Chest Blu-Ray.  But I also seem to be remarkably good at it.  Between this game AND the Pirates version, I've never lost a game.  Granted, I've never played it against real people, either, and the computer never calls "Spot on Bids," which would probably get me hammered in a real game.

And yes, the ending IS a bit of a shame.  But then...
WARNING!  SPOILER ALERT INVOLVING ANOTHER WESTERN GAME!
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: Dale Zawada on August 29, 2010, 10:27:44 PM
Check out this video I slapped together  (Spoilers)

http://www.youtube.com/v/HInznByJ9mc
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on October 25, 2010, 10:56:44 AM
I thought I'd pull this thread out from the depths of archived hell since Undead Nightmare will be available for download tomorrow... or, I'm hoping, midnight tonight!

I've never downloaded an expansion that I wanted so badly I had to have it the instant it was available. So, I have no idea if it'll be available at midnight like the games usually are at the "real" stores, And I think this would be more fun to play at night with the lights off as opposed to like one in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on October 25, 2010, 05:20:11 PM
I may be completely wrong, but I heard that XBLA released all their stuff really early in the morning, around 6 or so.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on October 25, 2010, 07:49:09 PM
Undead nightmare? What's that? If its what I think it is then I really want to get red dead redemption lol
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: MWolf on October 25, 2010, 10:25:42 PM
I may be completely wrong, but I heard that XBLA released all their stuff really early in the morning, around 6 or so.

Around 2am to 4am PST to be exact.... or near to exact... you get it dont you?!
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: RoninFox on October 26, 2010, 04:50:26 AM
All I have to say right now is WHY THE HELL CAN'T I SWIM?!?

Yeah, it's a stupid problem in a lot of games like this, because they want to use water as a barrier to keep you contained in their admittedly huge play area, and if you want to make it so that I just stop if I try to swim too far then fine, whatever, but if I'm so much of a badass that I can run toward a building with guns blazing, taking out ten men, absorbing a couple shots just to duck behind a wall and cure myself with cough syrup and chaw then that gunfight shouldn't end with me taking a bad step off a dock and instantly drowning in five and a half fucking feet of river water.

The above rambling run-on sentence stands as proof that I've been watching too much Zero Punctuation lately.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: spaceforarent on October 26, 2010, 07:25:43 AM
I may have to wait on the Undead DLC. I've got about $75 until Thursday: $30-$35 going towards gas, $10 for a movie tomorrow night, another $10-$20 for groceries, so I don't really have the budget to spend $15(?) on game stuff. Plus I still need the Liars and Cheats DLC, so I might as well pick them up at the same time whenever I can afford them.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: NRRork on October 26, 2010, 01:35:55 PM
Yeah, I've actually got a PS3, not a 360. So, I have to wait even longer. Live got it around midnight, but it won't be available on PSN until sometime between 5 and 8 tonight. I'm hoping it's available at 5 or soon after, so I can download and install it before I have to leave for class. I won't be home until almost ten, so if I could have it download and install while I was gone, that'd be really nice to have it waiting for me when I got home so I didn't have to deal with it THEN.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: spaceforarent on October 27, 2010, 06:28:23 AM
Hey look, Playstation Plus members get a discount on all RDR DLC now. $2 off each. I guess I can spare a few bucks for the Undead pack then.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: FLOCK of RABID SHEEP?!?! on October 27, 2010, 09:30:51 AM
Wish I could afford the ps+ now :p but I gotta get me some wamer cloths now lol
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: spaceforarent on November 02, 2010, 07:05:59 AM
So, who else is stuck on Mother Superior Blues?
(in case this hasn't happened to anyone else, there is a freezing issue when approaching Las Hermanas, so I'm stuck at that mission right now)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on November 03, 2010, 01:11:19 PM
Is that in the Undead pack?  Haven't gotten a chance to try it yet...downloaded it, but haven't played it.  If it is, thanks for the heads up, at least.    ;)

I might try playing it later...if I run into it, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: spaceforarent on November 03, 2010, 03:20:31 PM
Is that in the Undead pack?  Haven't gotten a chance to try it yet...downloaded it, but haven't played it.  If it is, thanks for the heads up, at least.    ;)

I might try playing it later...if I run into it, I'll let you know.
If you do run into it, the solution that worked for me was to get off your horse and approach the town slowly. There's a list of solutions somewhere online though if that one doesn't work (or they haven't patched it by the time you play)

I'm actually just about 100% on the Undead single player. Just need to rescue 12 more missing persons.
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: SJP on November 05, 2010, 11:31:41 AM
Just started it last night...having John be the main character was already a plus, but I was completely won over by him...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: spaceforarent on November 05, 2010, 11:34:12 AM
Just started it last night...having John be the main character was already a plus, but I was completely won over by him...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Just wait til you beat it

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption"
Post by: mrbasehart on November 05, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
John's such a great character, it's a shame that he won't be back for a sequel.   I guess Rockstar don't really do many recurring main characters though.