RiffTrax Forum

General Discussion => Television aka TV discussion => Topic started by: SaucyRossy on January 15, 2007, 11:54:30 PM

Title: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SaucyRossy on January 15, 2007, 11:54:30 PM
Yeah I am a huge fan of 24....honestly I don't care for t.v. much lately but 24, and BSG are my obsessions....

SO considering one of our very posters on this board Mr. Torso looks oddly enough a lot like a Jack Bauer threatening a terrorist with a toy guitar...
(http://myspace-167.vo.llnwd.net/01285/76/13/1285413167_l.jpg)

I figured we needed a 24 topic to discuss the many twists and turns of this new season.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Sharktopus on January 16, 2007, 12:53:46 AM
Wow, that's going in the Separated @ Birth (http://www.rifftrax.com/smf/index.php?topic=1227.0) thread.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on January 16, 2007, 09:13:47 AM
I too am a huge 24 fan - been watching since the first episode, although I missed eps of Day 3 when I was at college and just kept missing it.

What did you think of the first four hours?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


The only other network show that stands up to 24 is The Shield. I almost wish 24 would get moved to Fox's sister network, FX, because those shows tend to be more cutting edge. Imagine what the show would be like if they could show more things, and the actors were allowed to speak the way most people do in real life. Man that'd be sweet.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on January 16, 2007, 09:18:04 AM
We watched the first four hours all in one sitting last night. It was pretty good. We usually play the 24 Drinking game and we added a new item to the list for this season. Every time someone says "sacrifice" you gotta drink. And how about Curtis?!!
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Nunyerbiz on January 16, 2007, 09:54:01 AM

I like "24" and I thought the first four hours were a solid start... although the show is quickly becoming a self-parody. It's like they have their "24 Standard Season Checklist" in play:

1) Multiple romantic relationships that will lead to obvious conflicts of interest in the not too distant future? Check

2) Well known, well liked character from a previous season killed and/or critically injured? Check

3) Jack fighting a huge internal demon that will be completely forgotten by hour 7 or 8? Check

4) Weasle-like White House advisor guy that is given the hard sell as a "bad guy", but you know it's a red herring? Check

5) A not really important secondary bad guy escaping and making it clear across Los Angeles in under 10 minutes to meet with the main important badguy? Check

6) The premiere episode(s) ending with everybody starting out back at square one with no viable leads? Check
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on January 16, 2007, 10:32:41 AM

I like "24" and I thought the first four hours were a solid start... although the show is quickly becoming a self-parody. It's like they have their "24 Standard Season Checklist" in play:

1) Multiple romantic relationships that will lead to obvious conflicts of interest in the not too distant future? Check

2) Well known, well liked character from a previous season killed and/or critically injured? Check

3) Jack fighting a huge internal demon that will be completely forgotten by hour 7 or 8? Check

4) Weasle-like White House advisor guy that is given the hard sell as a "bad guy", but you know it's a red herring? Check

5) A not really important secondary bad guy escaping and making it clear across Los Angeles in under 10 minutes to meet with the main important badguy? Check

6) The premiere episode(s) ending with everybody starting out back at square one with no viable leads? Check

I agree with you on that, however... when you think about it... almost every show in existence does the same thing. Unfortunately most shows are formulaic but I respect 24 for finding a way to make the same ingredients into something new and interesting. Also 24 was one of the first shows to kill off main, even well-liked characters the way they do. For a network show they're a pretty big pioneer.

I'm interested in seeing how they take the formula we all know too well, and screwing with us some more. At least I hope they will because that's one of the things that makes the show what it is! I also like the take on the..
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: BBQ Platypus on January 16, 2007, 10:36:57 AM

I like "24" and I thought the first four hours were a solid start... although the show is quickly becoming a self-parody. It's like they have their "24 Standard Season Checklist" in play:

1) Multiple romantic relationships that will lead to obvious conflicts of interest in the not too distant future? Check

2) Well known, well liked character from a previous season killed and/or critically injured? Check

3) Jack fighting a huge internal demon that will be completely forgotten by hour 7 or 8? Check

4) Weasle-like White House advisor guy that is given the hard sell as a "bad guy", but you know it's a red herring? Check

5) A not really important secondary bad guy escaping and making it clear across Los Angeles in under 10 minutes to meet with the main important badguy? Check

6) The premiere episode(s) ending with everybody starting out back at square one with no viable leads? Check

I agree with you on that, however... when you think about it... almost every show in existence does the same thing. Unfortunately most shows are formulaic but I respect 24 for finding a way to make the same ingredients into something new and interesting. Also 24 was one of the first shows to kill off main, even well-liked characters the way they do. For a network show they're a pretty big pioneer.

I'm interested in seeing how they take the formula we all know too well, and screwing with us some more. At least I hope they will because that's one of the things that makes the show what it is! I also like the take on the..
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I agree with you, TP.  It's simultaneously gritty and escapist - very fun to watch.

As for this season, my favorite part of it so far has been the parts that involve Assad.  Assad is awesome. 
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
  That is all I have to say.

Nunyerbiz forgot ONE key ingredient, though: Jack saying something like "PUT DOWN YOUR WEAPON!" in his "outdoor voice" at least once per episode. ;D
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on January 16, 2007, 10:41:03 AM
Nunyerbiz forgot ONE key ingredient, though: Jack saying something like "PUT DOWN YOUR WEAPON!" in his "outdoor voice" at least once per episode. ;D

DAMMIT!!!!!
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Baron Samedi on January 16, 2007, 10:54:15 AM
Yeah, I'm going to have to invoke the spirit of Penn & Teller and call B.S. on that show last night. When I heard that there was going to be a truly horrifying and unexpected plot twist at the end of hour 4, a nuke going off in the city was one of the first things I mentally dismissed from fitting that criterion.

This storyline shows nothing more than desperation on the part of the writers. "We've got to up the ante, but we ran out of interesting ideas 3 seasons ago. Hmmm... nuke L.A.? Yeah, ok..." It's the same sort of "What's the biggest thing ever" thought process that leads to the President being the bad guy, or Captain Kirk meeting God. What's more, it's supposed to up the ante, but releasing a biological weapon in season 3 was considerably more suspensful than the nuke last night.

And as far as killing Curtis goes, we've long since learned that the dramatic heart-wrenching death of a beloved character is just the producers' way of telling us that the actor wanted too much money. It's been at least 3 years since a character's death actually meant anything. Now it's just a time-consuming layoff ritual.

There were a couple other 24-isms that I had to laugh at.  Viz:

#1: It seems like they've given up even pretending that Jack fits into the real-time format any more. CTU ordered an air strike that took 15 minutes to carry out. In that 15 minutes, Jack had a chance to kill a terrorist, break out of his shackles, escape his cell, elude his captors, find a car, have a chat with CTU, wait on hold, chat with the President, type in some coordinates on a convenient GPS device, hotwire the car, drive (in rush hour traffic) to the address given somewhere in one of the biggest and busiest cities in the world, sneak around the house, take out a couple henchmen, break in, negotiate with the house's occupants, expose a mole, and take his ally to safety just before the missiles struck.

I live in a relatively small town, I chose a job relatively close to my home, and I can't drive there at 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning as fast as Jack did all that. He's on the wrong show. He should be on Heroes.

#2. Do I even need to say anything about kicking a terrorist through a subway door at the same moment that he pushes a button and not even getting shrapnel wounds from the bomb? With explosives that impotent, why didn't Jack just tell everyone to step back a couple paces and let the kid have his fun?

I'm afraid 24 is now just some goofy cartoonishness with a dramatically self-important facade, like a Moore-era James Bond film produced by Merchant Ivory. I think the only way to save the series now is to bring in Mike for a commentary track.

But then, I'm still watching, so I can't complain too much.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Baron Samedi on January 16, 2007, 10:58:01 AM
Nunyerbiz forgot ONE key ingredient, though: Jack saying something like "PUT DOWN YOUR WEAPON!" in his "outdoor voice" at least once per episode. ;D

I once started a drinking game in which you had to take a shot anytime anyone shouted "Now!" or "Do your job!"  It didn't work too well, though... by the time I woke up I could never remember the last half of the episode.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Nunyerbiz on January 16, 2007, 11:17:01 AM
Well, in the shows defence... They haven't really cared much about the "real time" gimmick in a long time. Over and over again, the entire LA area can be traversed via SUV in under 15 minutes. I pay no attention to the clock anymore, it has no relevance.

As far as nuking LA, they really didn't do that. Granted, there will be massive death and destruction in the suburbs but they said the bad guys were 20 miles outside of the city. The immediate blast radius was established as a half mile. If you take the graphic they showed as being to scale, the immediate fallout zone was maybe 2-3 miles. So yea, the nuke went off on US soil and in the context of the show, it's a horrible thing. Just don't expect for a minute that anything recognizable as being "LA" will ever be effected by a nuke. Their location scouts wouldn't know where to shoot anything.

Anyways, I really enjoyed the first three seasons (maybe season 2 was a little suspect, but whatever). Since then, it has been slowly sliding into goofiness. I didn't expect anything less, you just can't keep the premise fresh for this many years. There is only so much of the tertiary stuff you can change around when every episode revolves around "talk on cell phone, reposition satellite, talk more on cell phone, shoot bad guys, discover the new bad guys for next story arc, repeat".

I'm a fan of the show and it's always a fun ride. I forgive the faults the same way I forgive silly 80's action movies. It's more about the "ohhs and ahhhs" and the badass hero then it is a coherent plot.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Rude on January 16, 2007, 11:30:31 AM
...

I just wanted to say that i love 24... it's like an addiction at my house. Although, i refuse to begin watching until i have a good number of episodes saved up on my TiVo. Because once i start watching that show i can't stop, and if i have to wait a whole week after one of those cliffhanger endings... i'd probably chew my nails off.

Anyway, once i catch up, i'll come back here and actually read the thread.

-Rude
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Minnesota on January 16, 2007, 11:35:13 AM

As far as nuking LA, they really didn't do that. Granted, there will be massive death and destruction in the suburbs but they said the bad guys were 20 miles outside of the city. The immediate blast radius was established as a half mile. If you take the graphic they showed as being to scale, the immediate fallout zone was maybe 2-3 miles. So yea, the nuke went off on US soil and in the context of the show, it's a horrible thing. Just don't expect for a minute that anything recognizable as being "LA" will ever be effected by a nuke. Their location scouts wouldn't know where to shoot anything.

Good observation, I assumed as much, but you were paying much closer attention ;)

Anyways, I really enjoyed the first three seasons (maybe season 2 was a little suspect, but whatever). Since then, it has been slowly sliding into goofiness. I didn't expect anything less, you just can't keep the premise fresh for this many years. There is only so much of the tertiary stuff you can change around when every episode revolves around "talk on cell phone, reposition satellite, talk more on cell phone, shoot bad guys, discover the new bad guys for next story arc, repeat".

Yup, first three were definetly the best. I miss chase and that abomination that is season 2 of prision break, just doesnt cut it. In my opinion of course. Hey have you played the 24 playstation game, I highly recomend it for fans of 24: season 3.

I'm a fan of the show and it's always a fun ride. I forgive the faults the same way I forgive silly 80's action movies. It's more about the "ohhs and ahhhs" and the badass hero then it is a coherent plot.

Hmm, I recomend a fast forward button, but I have a short attention span for predictable plot... trust me, you wont miss a thing :)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on January 16, 2007, 11:37:43 AM
And as far as killing Curtis goes, we've long since learned that the dramatic heart-wrenching death of a beloved character is just the producers' way of telling us that the actor wanted too much money. It's been at least 3 years since a character's death actually meant anything. Now it's just a time-consuming layoff ritual.

Not true. Every actor who's had their character killed off has said that they don't even know they're being killed off until they read the script. And even then sometimes they don't go through with it and end up killing them off later (anyways?) instead.

Although I, like many others, was pissed that when they killed Tony last year they just sort of shrugged it off. Tony, who saved the day in the previous season, complete with hero music, and one of the only other characters to ever appear who could hold his own with Jack. And to top it off they didn't do the "silent clock" that usually comes when a main character dies. They did it for frigging Edgar (which was still pretty heart wrenching) but not Tony? wtf?

But yeah even if the show does get a little silly, at least they remembered to stay away from cougars. The show still kicks ass and I'll keep watching.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Minnesota on January 16, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
...

I just wanted to say that i love 24... it's like an addiction at my house. Although, i refuse to begin watching until i have a good number of episodes saved up on my TiVo. Because once i start watching that show i can't stop, and if i have to wait a whole week after one of those cliffhanger endings... i'd probably chew my nails off.

Anyway, once i catch up, i'll come back here and actually read the thread.

-Rude

I know what you mean, I used to do the same thing (net/wait for dvd). I dont anymore though, I think I'm gonna try and keep up with this year, because if your as used to the show as I am, the cliffhangers arent what they once were. In my opinion of course.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Nunyerbiz on January 16, 2007, 11:49:18 AM
Although I, like many others, was pissed that when they killed Tony last year they just sort of shrugged it off. Tony, who saved the day in the previous season, complete with hero music, and one of the only other characters to ever appear who could hold his own with Jack. And to top it off they didn't do the "silent clock" that usually comes when a main character dies. They did it for frigging Edgar (which was still pretty heart wrenching) but not Tony? wtf?

Tony went out like a bitch and I'm still upset about it. Much like Matrix sequels and Star Wars prequels, I prefer to fool myself into believing it never happened.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SaucyRossy on January 16, 2007, 04:38:59 PM
I was so upset when Tony got jacked by robocop.....I mean really his death should of been greater than or equal too flying a plane solo and detonating a nuke in the desert saving thousands of lives.....but it wasn't.

As for the person complaining about a nuke going off in L.A......well you must not of watched the show before, nukes have gone off, hell I think the worst thing thats happened in 24 is when the Nuclear power plant melted down and all those people died of radiation poisoning...if you nit pick 24 then it just isn't as much fun. Just enjoy the show for what it is the most exciting hour in television....

Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on January 16, 2007, 04:41:19 PM
I was so upset when Tony got jacked by robocop.....I mean really his death should of been greater than or equal too flying a plane solo and detonating a nuke in the desert saving thousands of lives.....but it wasn't.

As for the person complaining about a nuke going off in L.A......well you must not of watched the show before, nukes have gone off, hell I think the worst thing thats happened in 24 is when the Nuclear power plant melted down and all those people died of radiation poisoning...if you nit pick 24 then it just isn't as much fun. Just enjoy the show for what it is the most exciting hour in television....



I don't mind people nitpicking that much, but they have to stop holding other shows on such high pedestals. 99% of all shows has done something ludicrous or farfetched at some point, some more than others of course. It's just the way TV goes.

Besides if the writing in any of these shows was to be "more realistic" it wouldn't be nearly as entertaining. If I want reality I'll read BBC News.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Nunyerbiz on January 16, 2007, 05:02:48 PM
I find it ironic that anybody here could possibly have an issue with nitpicking or poking fun at a TV show. The entire point of Riiftrax is to nitpick and poke fun at movies. I don't see why a TV show should enjoy any different treatment.

I'm a big 24 fan and I have no issue with the ludicrous happenings and whatnot... it's still an exciting show. Just because some of us have fun pointing out the aforementioned ludicrous happenings and whatnot doesn't necessarily mean we hate the show or hold it to some unrealistic standard. That's about as ass-backwards crazy as saying we hate The Matrix because we laughed at the Rifftrax.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on January 16, 2007, 05:05:09 PM

Zackly. Shows and movies can still be great regardless of the "little things" that might annoy us.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SaucyRossy on January 16, 2007, 05:50:23 PM

Zackly. Shows and movies can still be great regardless of the "little things" that might annoy us.

Thats what I meant to say.....btw when are you going to the performance tomorrow night?
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on January 16, 2007, 06:14:10 PM

Zackly. Shows and movies can still be great regardless of the "little things" that might annoy us.

Thats what I meant to say.....btw when are you going to the performance tomorrow night?

Not sure. We're gonna be cruising the city from 11am or so onward. Grabbing dinner and stuff normal time and then probably getting to the venue 6:30ish, I'd imagine, so we can setup, check in, and all that jazz. I'd imagine we can get there early since we're "with Mike" in a sense.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: dignan on January 18, 2007, 04:59:22 AM
www.bauercount.com is a pretty cool website, it has all of Jack's kills, up to and including season 6 so far, with video and photographic evidence.

I like 24, although I always get pulled away from it for some reason over the course of the season (except for season 3).  There's always a conflict with some other show. 

That said, I liked it when Jack ate that guy, and I always thought Curtis was the new Tony, just with less personality.  Now Assad can be the new Tony.  Or, I guess he's the new Curtis.  Except he'll probably eventually be the main bad guy. 
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: starfighter on January 18, 2007, 09:00:24 PM
   The only character they can't kill off is Chloe since Jack will always need someone to openly defy any superior officer at CTU and do whatever Jack wants.
   But going 24 hours without peeing goes beyond duty to country.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Scrivener on January 19, 2007, 08:24:04 AM

   But going 24 hours without peeing goes beyond duty to country.

No, silly.  He goes to the bathroom during commercials.  Like everyone in the audience.  ;D

Scrivener.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: BBQ Platypus on January 19, 2007, 09:19:24 AM

   But going 24 hours without peeing goes beyond duty to country.

No, silly.  He goes to the bathroom during commercials.  Like everyone in the audience.  ;D

Scrivener.

'Cept for you, SCRIVENER.  You COULD go to the bathroom, but you prefer not to. ;D

(3500 "I Read Too Much" points to anyone who gets that reference)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Scrivener on January 20, 2007, 08:55:23 AM
No, silly.  He goes to the bathroom during commercials.  Like everyone in the audience.  ;D

Scrivener.

'Cept for you, SCRIVENER.  You COULD go to the bathroom, but you prefer not to. ;D

I always go before the show, just to be safe.  Learned that lesson watching Independence Day (one of several uncomfortable lessons that movie taught me).

Don't laugh.  This rule probably saved my life during the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Scrivener
Writing marginally salable stuff since 1996.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on January 20, 2007, 10:41:59 AM
I like 24, although I always get pulled away from it for some reason over the course of the season (except for season 3).  There's always a conflict with some other show. 


TIVO is your friend.  I haven't seen a commercial in months!!!

Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Baron Samedi on January 23, 2007, 02:54:08 PM
So Jack's dad is Zephram Chochrane?  I guess that makes sense.  If Jack's been stealing the keys to his dad's warp drive for the last five years, that would go a long way toward explaining how he gets around in L.A. traffic to quickly.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SaucyRossy on January 24, 2007, 07:52:41 AM
So Jack's dad is Zephram Chochrane?  I guess that makes sense.  If Jack's been stealing the keys to his dad's warp drive for the last five years, that would go a long way toward explaining how he gets around in L.A. traffic to quickly.

I am guessing you missed the biggest revelation of that whole episode....
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on January 24, 2007, 08:18:54 AM
Am I the only one who felt that twist was slightly contrived?

It wasn't really disappointing, but I don't know. Definitely a good twist but at the same time I felt kinda "meh." What do you guys think?
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SaucyRossy on January 24, 2007, 09:22:34 AM
Am I the only one who felt that twist was slightly contrived?

It wasn't really disappointing, but I don't know. Definitely a good twist but at the same time I felt kinda "meh." What do you guys think?

Thats exactly how I felt.....honestly I had no clue until a friend of mine pointed it out and my first reaction was "24 is now a soap opera"
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Baron Samedi on January 24, 2007, 05:44:21 PM
So Jack's dad is Zephram Chochrane?  I guess that makes sense.  If Jack's been stealing the keys to his dad's warp drive for the last five years, that would go a long way toward explaining how he gets around in L.A. traffic to quickly.

I am guessing you missed the biggest revelation of that whole episode....
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

No, I caught that.  I just didn't find it as interesting a twist as his dad being the dude from First Contact.  Hopefully he'll get drunk and play Creedence sometime in the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Nunyerbiz on January 26, 2007, 06:08:05 PM
Am I the only one who felt that twist was slightly contrived?

It wasn't really disappointing, but I don't know. Definitely a good twist but at the same time I felt kinda "meh." What do you guys think?

Thats exactly how I felt.....honestly I had no clue until a friend of mine pointed it out and my first reaction was "24 is now a soap opera"

Until they revealed James Cromwell in the preview for next week, I was expecting Darth Vader to be Jack's father and Chloe to be his twin sister. I'm still entertained and I'll be watching 24 until it's canned or Keifer collects social security... but you are in denial if you don't realize the show is a caboose derailment away from total trainwreck status.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on January 26, 2007, 07:06:45 PM
Yeah, that was crazy. I couldn't believe that was Jack's brother. They're really pulling out all the stops this year. Possible best season ever.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: BBQ Platypus on January 28, 2007, 07:52:27 AM
Am I the only one who felt that twist was slightly contrived?

It wasn't really disappointing, but I don't know. Definitely a good twist but at the same time I felt kinda "meh." What do you guys think?

Tune in next week for the shocking discovery that Jack is actually a secret government robot originally designed to sneak booze into President Bush's desk drawer. ::)





You know, that's probably the ONLY twist dumb enough to keep me from watching.  I'm willing to tolerate pretty much anything else as long as it's handled in typical 24 fashion (as opposed to "third season of Alias" fashion).
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SaucyRossy on January 31, 2007, 10:25:38 PM
Ok I am starting to see where the writers are going with Jack's brother and I love it. Not only that but major props for setting this up a full year ago.....good job on that. Also I love the casting of James Cromswell as Jack's father. Any time you get a great actor like him on the show it's a good thing.....

My only question is where did Jack get his badass genes from? I guess his mother. She must of been like some bad ass Ninja warrior or something.....
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on January 31, 2007, 10:59:58 PM
It would have been cool if they could have gotten Donald Sutherland to play Bauer's dad! I read that Donald's schedule wouldn't allow for it. Oh well. My only problem when I see the dude playing Jack's brother is that I keep yelling "I LIKE IT!" at the screen whenever he is on. I only see him as the eventual "incredible melting guy" in ROBOCOP! Which was perfect with Peter Weller on last year as well. Anytime Weller was on the screen I always found myself yelling "DROP IT!" or "DEAD OR ALIVE YOU ARE COMING WITH ME!"

(http://www.bigmeanpunk.com/forumposts/emil.jpg)


Also who thinks that the engineer that McCarthy says they might have to force to do the work is going to be Morris O'Brian??



Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Steve-O on February 01, 2007, 12:11:40 AM
Paul McCrane will always be the prototype Carrot Top from Fame to me.

(http://www.tametheweb.com/personal/McCrane/seats2.jpg)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 01, 2007, 09:12:55 AM
I liked this week's episode more than last week's IMO, but here's the thing. They're telegraphing the "major twist" of the year, I THINK, if they even decide to follow through with it. But it's glaringly obvious, read below... don't click if you don't want to have anything ruined, at least, if it pans out.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SaucyRossy on February 01, 2007, 04:24:52 PM
Also who thinks that the engineer that McCarthy says they might have to force to do the work is going to be Morris O'Brian??

GREAT point. Never even considered that....also Torgos your point is very valid also some one else pointed that out to me and suggested it after the episode aired....I doubt that will be the only big twist this year though.

But if that is his son then that means Jack is one cheating bastard. I mean Nina, his brothers wife?!?!
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on February 01, 2007, 04:26:52 PM
Also who thinks that the engineer that McCarthy says they might have to force to do the work is going to be Morris O'Brian??

GREAT point. Never even considered that....also Torgos your point is very valid also some one else pointed that out to me and suggested it after the episode aired....I doubt that will be the only big twist this year though.

But if that is his son then that means Jack is one cheating bastard. I mean Nina, his brothers wife?!?!


There was already something between them. Graham makes that clear when he has that little argument with his wife when we first meet her.

Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SaucyRossy on February 01, 2007, 04:29:44 PM
Also who thinks that the engineer that McCarthy says they might have to force to do the work is going to be Morris O'Brian??

GREAT point. Never even considered that....also Torgos your point is very valid also some one else pointed that out to me and suggested it after the episode aired....I doubt that will be the only big twist this year though.

But if that is his son then that means Jack is one cheating bastard. I mean Nina, his brothers wife?!?!


There was already something between them. Graham makes that clear when he has that little argument with his wife when we first meet her.

Yeah but there was nothing said about there son....any one else dying for an appearance by Naked Mandy?!? Man she is hot.

(http://www.celebopedia.com/kirshner/images/mia_kirshner.jpg)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 01, 2007, 07:52:04 PM
Right, they mentioned Jack and whats-her-face having a thing, so could the kid be Jack's? Tune in next week on The Adventures of Jack Bauer!

In any event Saucy... yes... I miss Mandy. :(
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 01, 2007, 09:28:40 PM
Yes... Because the kid has blonde hair! If he was bald, then you know it's Graems... except you actually inherit your mother's father's hair pattern, so Graem's daughter's son will be bald, if he lives that long.
The kinda looked like young Ricky Bobby, too.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Nunyerbiz on February 02, 2007, 10:20:03 AM
No matter what they do this season, it's going to be a huge improvement over last year. While the guy that played President Logan probably gave the single greatest performance in the show's history, the entire exercise was just 'meh' overall.

That said, I am getting increasingly irked by the continually shrinking "24iverse" if you will. We got sisters, brothers, fathers, husbands, wives... pretty soon characters will be coming down with amnesia and/or waking up to find out an entire season was just a dream. It's almost a freakin soap opera with guns. Still, can't wait til Monday. :)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 06, 2007, 05:03:38 PM
Any thoughts on last night's episode? Here are mine. Caution: spoilers and language.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 06, 2007, 07:57:19 PM
Yeah, that was crazy. I had a little hint about Jack's dad, but it was definitely a wow moment. Some decent acting from Sutherland. The rest of the season is gonna be really interesting.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Nunyerbiz on February 13, 2007, 04:16:10 PM
Ok, after what I thought was a shaky start to the season... I think 24 has found it's groove with a very solid two-hour installment last night. They started to tone down the family member overload by eliminating Jack's brother and not featuring Wayne's sister. The "you knew the real bad guy was yet to be revealed" bad guy has been revealed and the concentration now seems firmly planted on two solid storylines. While I got a good laugh out of CTU's ability to track automobiles from space but being totally stymied when the bad guy escaped via helicopter... overall I think last night salvaged a season that I thought was tumbling into Desperate Housewives territory.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 13, 2007, 07:30:01 PM
I'm totally with you. Those two episodes brought the show back for me. I was starting to get worried, but I'll definitely be tuning in next week (and every week after as long as they keep this pace up).

The presidential stuff is pretty weak this season, but I'm hoping they ease into the second-half conflict a little easier (I assume maybe, this is what they're aiming for?) so that it's not a big switcharoo when the time comes. Hopefully they'll continue to redeem themselves and deliver us a really good season.

Either way, it's still worth watching :)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: JonnyFrag on February 15, 2007, 06:22:34 AM
I have done some thinking about the whole 'twist' of
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

When Jack and the woman are talking on the way to the house, they mention that it's been 'about 20 years.'
Now, we all know how old Kim is (supposed to be) ~25 or so in 24 time.
That means that for this twist to be true that
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Just something, given all the other evidence and things said in virtually all seasons past, I don't think could have happened.
of course, they also had a new clip playing this season that 'For the first time, a nuclear device has been used on American soil...I suppose they just all forgot about the one in season 2.

Just as long as they don't go all 'Adventures of Kim' with the boy I suppose it's all good.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 15, 2007, 09:46:07 AM
After reading your comments I remembered, at least I THINK I do - didn't Josh say something to grampa Philip, as Philip was walking down the hall of the hotel room, something along the lines of "I'm 23, but everyone treats me like a little kid?" Something like that. I DVR'd it so I'll have to go watch again.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on February 15, 2007, 01:50:33 PM
If he's 23, Haley Joel Osment is 50... and still stoned.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: torgosPizza on February 15, 2007, 01:56:35 PM
If he's 23, Haley Joel Osment is 50... and still stoned.

It's TV, anything can happen :)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: J-Proof on May 22, 2007, 11:28:17 AM
So -- to resurrect a seemingly dead thread:

Did anyone, aside from me, catch the finale last night???

I thought it was pretty awesome! I'm willing to bet next season will have a lot of the following:

Audrey, the Chinese, Nukes

Very spiffy!
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on May 22, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
That was the weakest Season Finale I have ever seen. It just simply fades off the screen as they zoom into Jack staring at the ocean. And all the reveals were no big hooplahs to right home about. Like w/ Karen and Bill and Chloe. And to be honest, they could have done more with the oil rig scene. And what was the deal w/ Milo's brother just showing up and then disappearing? Didn't make a whole lot of sense. Compared to the start of the season, the end really just didn't compare. The killing of Fayed was more of a season finale than the finale itself.

Was anybody else disappointed? I realize it leaves a lot open till next season, but you gotta have some sort of a cliff hanger or spectacular ending.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: J-Proof on May 22, 2007, 02:01:03 PM
That was the weakest Season Finale I have ever seen. It just simply fades off the screen as they zoom into Jack staring at the ocean. And all the reveals were no big hooplahs to right home about. Like w/ Karen and Bill and Chloe. And to be honest, they could have done more with the oil rig scene. And what was the deal w/ Milo's brother just showing up and then disappearing? Didn't make a whole lot of sense. Compared to the start of the season, the end really just didn't compare. The killing of Fayed was more of a season finale than the finale itself.

Was anybody else disappointed? I realize it leaves a lot open till next season, but you gotta have some sort of a cliff hanger or spectacular ending.

Hmm - perhaps it's because this is the first season I've ever really watched the show that I liked it so much? lol -- I thought it was really fun =)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on May 22, 2007, 02:02:31 PM
Someone ask Bauer if he knows Ameda Dudi.

 ;)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Natureboy on May 22, 2007, 02:39:11 PM
I really liked the wrap up......they really put the pain to Jack.......

I didn't quite understand the silent clock at the end....which they have only done for landmark events....Chappell, Edgar..etc.

I found it very solid.

J-Proof....this is the only season you have seen?  dude......go buy the DVD's of the other season.  I tore through the Season 5 box set from 1:00 AM to 5:00 PM one day.  Once you start watching this show....it is like crack.

Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Nunyerbiz on May 23, 2007, 06:46:43 AM
My stream of consciousness 24 rundown...

The first season was insane... probably the best single season of any show I can ever recall watching. Go out and buy it if you haven't seen it... I got a feeling when it's all said and done, this will be the only "must have" of the entire run. (Not that the others are bad... just that this one is so good)

The second season was all over the map... with crazy plotlines left flying in the wind never to be resolved. Kim can't take a piss without getting kidnapped... Even the cliffhanger at the end was only given a tertiary nod by the writers at the start of season three... as if they just wanted the whole thing to go away.

The third season taught us that Jack Bauer is so badass that he can kick a heroin habit in about 6 hours... even with this and some other poorly written subplots taken into account, it was much tighter than Season 2.

Season four... another pretty solid one. It was helped out immensly by the excellent work of Vosloo as Habib Marwan and the supporting actors who made up the Araz family. Hey, what ever ended up happening to Behrooz anyhow? Poor kid... he's still locked in some nondiscript GMC work van somewhere in the valley. Nuclear Football... great name for a band... The writers went off the rails for a few episodes, especially with Driscoll and her damn annoying and crazy daughter... and this season trickled in silliness towards the end by introducing the Chinese... who even amongst other 24 bad guys... are comical stereotypes.  OMG! Jack is dead!

The fifth season was bad.... low point of the series. Some great work by the actors who played the President and the First Lady... but WAAAAY to much screen time was dedicated to them. A string of largely inconsequencial badguys come and go... Tony Almeida goes out like a bitch... and Jack gets the "real" bad guy at the end with silly ploy that you couldn't help but see coming a mile away. Hmmm... I wonder if the Chinese will show up? The writers certainly hope you had forgotten about them...

The sixth season... better than five... but probably not on par with 1 ,3 or 4. David Palmer needs to move to CBS... so he's capped... A quickly forgetten plot device is introduced to get Jack back from the Chinese... Wayne Palmer, always the 'yang' to David Palmer's 'ying' is somehow now the level-headed President... yea... this will end well.... Curtis, following the tradition of Edgar and Tony... goes out like a bitch as the writers need to throw in "shock value" just for the sake of itself... a big bomb finally does go off... thanks to some help from Kumar... Short of showing him beating orphans with a crowbar, it couldn't have been anymore obvious that Jack's dad was a bad guy... but to further the plot... the good guys are oblivious when he's around. At this point, any STD that was present at CTU has been passed to everyone... including the guy that stocks the break room vending machines... Powers Boothe and that guy from Ally McBeal give good turns in largely thankless supporting roles... The bad guys are just ten hours worth of red herring to get the Chinese back into the picture... CTU apparently sits on top of ancient Roman sewer tunnels... and these are used by the most generic of thugs to infiltrate the building for the 12th time in six "days". Milo is killed but nobody really cares... Jack's son... er... nephew... nephew... is kidnapped... blah blah blah... Audrey is brainwashed... because ... uhh... it ,makes sense to travel to China, by yourself, to do what? Break Jack out of prison?!?.... ugh... MAKE IT END!!!! Season sputters to a close....

I realize that my recollection was better with the later seasons... so I'm sorry if it got a little long winded at the end....
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on November 08, 2007, 05:43:55 PM
Unaired 1994 "24" episode:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1788161 (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1788161)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Tripe on November 08, 2007, 06:01:20 PM
Outstanding

"We just installed Windows 3.1 there's no way!"
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Rude on February 12, 2008, 09:57:29 PM
...

Surnow leaving '24' (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i63ec568afa18bdd00d2b048405f15583)
Co-creator and producer exits to focus on new projects

You can read the entire article if you want to, but judging from some of the most recent reports about the upcoming season... he made the right choice to bail out now. The last season was a joke for a number of reasons, most of which we can thank Howard Gordon for. But if they're really heading down the path they've decided on for the next season, they can just sign the death warrant for 24 right now.

-Rude
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on February 13, 2008, 12:17:46 AM
Last year was pretty weak.  I really haven't been paying attention to the spoilers except for the biggest and stupidest one:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The dumbest shit yet.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Brak on February 13, 2008, 07:50:34 AM
And from what i have read in my local paper it looks like they won't be releasing the next season until 2009. Woopie doopidie do......
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bratpop on February 13, 2008, 10:12:03 PM
Uh, I thought getting the hell out of L.A. was actually a GOOD idea for the show. Washington wouldn't be nearly different enough, but it was a start.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on March 06, 2008, 07:16:28 PM
They are going to have a 2 hour "prequel" movie this fall to bridge season 6 to season 7.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: esoobaC .T bocaJ on March 06, 2008, 07:18:24 PM
yeah, I read that somewhere
 ;D

Who's in the mood for Prequels
Quote
The producers of the Emmy-winning series, "24," are developing a two-hour "prequel" to the upcoming seventh season. The movie, designed to bridge the two-year gap between Seasons 6 and 7, is targeted to air in the fall, leading to the January return of the real-time drama. On Wednesday, "24" producers began securing the show's core cast members for the film.

"24" was one of the biggest casualties of the writers strike. Three days into the work stoppage, Fox decided against airing a partial season of the serialized drama with the eight episodes produced before and during the first weeks of the strike.

Each season of "24" is a closed arc that takes place in real time over a 24-hour period. The upcoming seventh season is set in Washington and features the first female US president, played by Cherry Jones.

At the end of the writers strike, there were rumblings about a possible split of the seventh season into two parts to air in the fall and in midseason. But Fox was quick to put those rumors to rest, reiterating that the show's scheduling pattern will remain intact with a January launch.

The "24" writing team is back at work, with filming on the remaining episodes of the seventh season slated to begin in April.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bratpop on March 06, 2008, 07:18:51 PM
Why?
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Rude on March 06, 2008, 08:14:09 PM
...

Ugh. I don't mind the idea of a movie really... it would be just like an extra episode between seasons. Which they've actually done before with one of the boxsets. And they've been discussing and planning on making a film for awhile now, so i've accepted the idea that it would eventually get made. But this show has looked creatively bankrupt for almost two seasons. And now that the driving force behind 24 is gone, i don't hold much hope that they can salvage it with any integrity.

The fact that they originally wanted the next season to begin with Jack in Africa doing humanitarian relief work as some sort of self-imposed atonement for his "sins" says just how far they've strayed from the original concept of the show. And now they have the first woman president? After having the first black president, an evil president, and the ex-president's brother as president... that idea feels like just another gimmick by lazy writers.

About the only good idea that i've heard involves moving the setting of the show from Los Angeles. Although i would like to have seen them move on completely. 24 was just begging for a spin-off series along the lines of CSI. The Counter Terrorist Unit in Washington could certainly have provided an opportunity to tell new stories with new characters as opposed to using Jack Bauer over and over again until his character loses any sort of unique identity. Give me CTU: New York already... seriously!

-Rude
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on March 06, 2008, 08:20:29 PM
You would think that the terrorists, who always seem to know who Bauer is would start there plan from somewhere that he's not at.  If they attack NY they'd have at least a 4 hr head start. 
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 06, 2008, 08:27:37 PM
I gave up on the show after the president turned out to be the "Bad guy" at the end of season five and Jack Trapped him with that stupid trick that he somehow didn't see coming.

The whole time i was watching season five I just kept thinking "When are they going to show us the real villain,they can't think this is a good idea." but it never happened.

Season six sounds like it was more of that kind of stuff.

If you ask me they have gone as far as they can with the World in danger from big bad guys in shadow goverment stories.  Now they need to either end the show or do something small scale. 

I was thinking something like a strait forward story with no one from the White house involved,not even CTU,no double crossing shadow goverment people.  Have one of Jack's friends get caught under cover in Iran or some country like that and give Jack 24 hours to on his own recuse him form a hostile country with no back up or anything like that.  No cellphones,no laptops,no driving across the city in five minutes,no Jack just happening to know people in power have him have to find people who will help him and have some of them double cross him,no plot twist where the whole world is in danger,and lots of action.  Just have it be a straight up thriller.

Does anyone else think this is a good idea?
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Rude on March 06, 2008, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: Raven
You would think that the terrorists, who always seem to know who Bauer is would start there plan from somewhere that he's not at.  If they attack NY they'd have at least a 4 hr head start. 

Seriously! The show was so "daring" in that any of the characters could die at any time... except Jack Bauer. I think that the writer's were so afraid to kill Jack Bauer that they're actually letting his character kill the show. They created a rock... and now they're trying to make him squishy in order to bring a new dimension to the show. Instead they're just undermining the integrity that they've built up over the last five or six seasons.

I know you were making a joke... but at least you knew that. Unfortunately, it looks like the writers are making a joke out of the show and have no clue!

-Rude
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on March 06, 2008, 08:46:03 PM
I think it would be really cool if they actually killed Jack off one of these years.  There's no reason that future seasons can't fill in the gaps between seasons if they absolutely have to have Keifer on the show.  It would take some maneuvering on the part of the writers but it could be done.  I played through the awful video game and that had it's own story that took place between seasons 2 and 3.   
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 06, 2008, 09:23:48 PM
I think killing Jack off would be the end of the show.

Sure it would be brave and they may get some good episodes out of it,but I think to most people it would be like when they got rid of Fox Mulder on the XFiles.  No matter how good the people you replace him with are the show is pretty much all about him at this point.  If they had done it back in season 3 and shifted the focus to Tony it may have worked,but 24 is Jack at this point.

I don't see the show lasting half a season with out him.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bratpop on March 06, 2008, 09:24:35 PM
Kim Bauer: Special Agent.

That's all I gots ta say.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 06, 2008, 09:27:23 PM
You think that would be a good idea?

I was glad when they got rid of her.

She is alway getting kidnapped or hooking up with some creepy guy.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on March 06, 2008, 09:33:42 PM
In the 24 game for the Ps2 I got as far as the level where you have to escort Kim and I couldn't help but to keep shooting her in the face.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 06, 2008, 09:35:32 PM
You get to do that.

I may pay the four bucks for a used copy now.

I have so much rage a want to take out on her!!

Mostly for season 2 and the fact that she was mad at Jack for being alive in season 4.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Rude on March 06, 2008, 10:14:53 PM
...

I don't mind Kim Bauer so much.
I mean... if they find a better way to properly use her 'talents," that is:

(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1001/kimsv5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
  >:D .   .  >:D .   .  >:D

Hell, i remember back in season one when people were claiming that 24 had jumped the shark after the "Kim Bauer vs. The Mountain Lion" episode was aired! That was bad, but forgivable. But then to see her pop-up working for CTU? Ugh. I think the game designers knew what they were doing when they allowed you to shoot her in the face. Anyway...

Quote from: Doctor Who?
I think killing Jack off would be the end of the show.

I think you're half right. And that's the idea that i've kind of been touching on... Unfortunately, 24 has become The Jack Bauer Show. If they had killed him off early in the series i definitely think it would have worked. In fact, by season three or four, i think the audience almost expected Jack to die! But now the writers want to take the show in a new direction, and they view the character of Jack Bauer as more of a hinderance to them than anything else.

-Rude
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 06, 2008, 10:25:27 PM
Wasn't that episode in season two.

The thing a hated about that season was that every time something cool would happen with Jack they would cut to Kim being an idiot.  I think that may be the one season(with season five)that I will never watch again.

Yeah that is what i was going for.

I thought the whole of season three was building up to jack death to tell you the truth I was a little taken aback when he turned up alive at the end.

If the writers don't want to write for Jack any more I wish they would just end the show before it becomes one of those shows that people will look back on 20 years from now and say "why did they produce 6 more season of that show when the last good one was season 4?".

If you ask me Tony or Chase were the only characters that could have carried the show with out Jack and now they are both gone. 

They should have past the touch to Chase back in season three.

I think whoever said that the show would be better on FX was right,this is a show that needs to take real chance but doesn't get to because it is on a network.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on March 08, 2008, 08:22:01 AM

If you ask me Tony or Chase were the only characters that could have carried the show with out Jack and now they are both gone. 


Except they are brining Tony back..
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 08, 2008, 10:53:56 AM
Wait a sec didn't we see him die?!

What's next are they going to bring back Nina as the villain?!!

This is the moment when i know I will never watch a show again,when they start brining back dead people.

24 is not start Trek,you can't reanimate people.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on March 08, 2008, 02:36:30 PM
I didn't think that we actually saw Tony die.  He was there one episode in a lot of trouble and then he was just gone from the show.  I just thought I missed a week or something. 
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Douglin on March 08, 2008, 02:52:35 PM
Robocop injected him with something, then someone said he was dead.

There was a mini-fan-uproar at the time because they didn't use the silent clock over the outro like they normally do when a "good guy" dies like with Edgar.

Apparently they didn't use the silent clock so he wasn't really dead

So either through great forward planning or, more likely, the dumb luck that someone forgot to mute the clock...here we are

Frankly I couldn't care less how they bring him back: clone, evil twin, mirror universe Tony, whatever...
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on March 08, 2008, 05:36:04 PM
Robocop injected him with something, then someone said he was dead.

There was a mini-fan-uproar at the time because they didn't use the silent clock over the outro like they normally do when a "good guy" dies like with Edgar.

Apparently they didn't use the silent clock so he wasn't really dead

So either through great forward planning or, more likely, the dumb luck that someone forgot to mute the clock...here we are

Frankly I couldn't care less how they bring him back: clone, evil twin, mirror universe Tony, whatever...

Did they use the silent clock when Curtis bought it?
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 08, 2008, 06:11:34 PM
Robocop injected him with something, then someone said he was dead.

There was a mini-fan-uproar at the time because they didn't use the silent clock over the outro like they normally do when a "good guy" dies like with Edgar.

Apparently they didn't use the silent clock so he wasn't really dead

So either through great forward planning or, more likely, the dumb luck that someone forgot to mute the clock...here we are

Frankly I couldn't care less how they bring him back: clone, evil twin, mirror universe Tony, whatever...

Still this is not a good sign if you ask me.

I liked Tony more then Jack to tell you the truth but this just seems really cheap and cheesy,even for 24.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on March 08, 2008, 06:49:54 PM
Maybe they'll go all "Mission Impossible" and have the prostetic faces that just have someone wearing a Tony mask or something.  That would be great. ::)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 08, 2008, 07:03:50 PM
So that would make Jake so stupid he didn't notice the mask or he didn't notice his best friend was still alive?

Way to go producers.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on March 08, 2008, 08:13:55 PM
So that would make Jake so stupid he didn't notice the mask or he didn't notice his best friend was still alive?


Maybe all that happened during a commercial break. 
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 08, 2008, 08:16:23 PM
Ok so there are ways to make it happen with out it being completely stupid but i still think if this isn't a Jump the shark moment it is very close.

I don't see 24 lasting more then two more seasons any way.

I think most of the people who are not hardcore fans have stopped watching.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on March 08, 2008, 11:40:41 PM
I'm actually a little surpised that the show has lasted as long as it has.  I still like to watch it, but more as background noise. 
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bratpop on March 09, 2008, 12:45:46 AM
I think it's funny that people criticize 24 so much. I watch it for the same reason I watch Lost. It's funny. When it's good it's enjoyable and when it's not it's easy to laugh at. But if you kept watching after Teri crashed her car and got amnesia, then you have no one to blame but yourself. I find it absurd that people say "the show only started sucking when this happened," or "it only started sucking when that happened," or "they're really jumping the shark now," and "boy they are out of ideas." The show started running on goofy after episode 13 because that's all they planned before more were ordered. That's when Hopper showed up and started talking about "bargaining cheeps." And it stopped being a good concept when they stopped saying, "on the day of the California Presidential Primary." As if what time it is has ever mattered in the setting of any story. "Oooh ahhh, this episode takes place at ten a.m., wow! Last week it took place at nine a.m.! What a twist!" ::)
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Scrivener on March 09, 2008, 07:51:27 AM
So that would make Jake so stupid he didn't notice the mask or he didn't notice his best friend was still alive?


Maybe all that happened during a commercial break. 

No, that's when Jack is going to the bathroom.

Hey, that's how the viewers spend the commercials.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Natureboy on March 09, 2008, 01:26:49 PM
For all of the Tony fans......He turns into a bad guy and is the main bad guy for the next season.  It should be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on March 09, 2008, 03:05:47 PM
For all of the Tony fans......He turns into a bad guy and is the main bad guy for the next season.  It should be a lot of fun.

I haven't read anything, but if thats true it might actually be an interesting season, despite how stupid the arch is. 
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Natureboy on March 09, 2008, 04:04:44 PM
For all of the Tony fans......He turns into a bad guy and is the main bad guy for the next season.  It should be a lot of fun.

I haven't read anything, but if thats true it might actually be an interesting season, despite how stupid the arch is. 

http://www.titanmagazines.com/app?service=external/Product&sp=l544&sp=Sen&sp=SUS
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on March 09, 2008, 04:32:45 PM
Well that will certainly be interesting.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: BBQ Platypus on November 23, 2008, 07:10:51 PM
Well, they've just aired what is basically a two-hour teaser for next season.  I liked it.  What did everybody else think?  Or am I the only one who still cares?
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Raven on November 23, 2008, 07:36:02 PM
I watched it and didn't think it was too bad.  It felt like they wanted to start the regular season that way but realized the several hour long plane ride might hurt the amount of action the show could contain.  A nice little teaser though.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on November 23, 2008, 08:49:04 PM
It was fun. The new season looks sweet even though they are pulling Tony out of the grave and having him be a bad guy now.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bratpop on November 24, 2008, 03:46:22 AM
It was like Tears of the Sun lite meets Rules of Engagement lite, without the badass soldiers and drama. So anticlimactic. They could have at least shown the badguys getting blown up.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Axnollouse on November 24, 2008, 07:07:51 PM
I as well enjoyed Redemption because it was WAY better than all of Day 6 combined.

The trailer at the end was bad ass. 24: Day 7 looks to be made of win
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: dangfish on November 25, 2008, 04:02:13 PM
I enjoyed it as well.  Nice to see Jack in action again after almost two years with nothing new. And yes, it certainly looks like Tony is coming back evil, but I'm not 100% convinced.  This show has been known in the past to throw in some last minute twists.  Maybe all is not how they are making it look like......or maybe he'll turn good again at the very end or something or other.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bratpop on November 25, 2008, 04:09:39 PM
Didn't he have a scarred face last season? The only scar I saw was over his eyebrow, and it looked rather new. Now he has a Freddy Krueger ear though.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on November 25, 2008, 06:07:00 PM
Hopefully this site will get updated with the Redemption episode:


www.bauercount.com

Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Thrifty on December 06, 2008, 01:43:45 PM
I can't wait for season 7.  Word is that Kim will be back toward the end of the season.  That has me worried that they're gonna kill her off.  I like Kim, and I hate to see that happen to Jack.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on December 06, 2008, 07:59:40 PM
I can't wait for season 7.  Word is that Kim will be back toward the end of the season.  That has me worried that they're gonna kill her off.  I like Kim, and I hate to see that happen to Jack.

That was the worst thing I could have heard about the new season..... I really hate that kind whiny spoiled brat kind of character.  What season was it where she was pissed that Jack was alive? 
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Axnollouse on December 07, 2008, 08:42:23 AM
Maybe this season she will be chased by two cougars!
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on December 07, 2008, 09:40:28 AM
As long as if at some point they manage to get her naked.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Thrifty on December 08, 2008, 09:53:01 AM
I can't wait for season 7.  Word is that Kim will be back toward the end of the season.  That has me worried that they're gonna kill her off.  I like Kim, and I hate to see that happen to Jack.

That was the worst thing I could have heard about the new season..... I really hate that kind whiny spoiled brat kind of character.  What season was it where she was pissed that Jack was alive? 

That was season 5.  And she was pissed off because she had spent a year and a half grieving over her father only to find out that it was a deliberate deception.  I think a lot of people would be upset to be put through that kind of pain by someone they loved.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Thrifty on December 08, 2008, 09:59:45 AM
I can't wait for season 7.  Word is that Kim will be back toward the end of the season.  That has me worried that they're gonna kill her off.  I like Kim, and I hate to see that happen to Jack.

That was the worst thing I could have heard about the new season..... I really hate that kind whiny spoiled brat kind of character.  What season was it where she was pissed that Jack was alive? 

I never really noticed Kim being particularly whiny.  Maybe it's because I'm thinking with the little head instead of the big one, or maybe it's because almost everyone at CTU and in the White House is whiny.  I can barely see an episode where someone isn't asked to go home or offload some of their work due to fatigue/stress and them pitching a hissy-fit.  Everyone is workaholic to a truly absurd degree.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Thrifty on December 08, 2008, 10:00:50 AM
As long as if at some point they manage to get her naked.

I don't think that would play well on network television.  Also, Elisha Cuthbert doesn't do nude scenes.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on December 08, 2008, 12:21:44 PM
As long as if at some point they manage to get her naked.

I don't think that would play well on network television.  Also, Elisha Cuthbert doesn't do nude scenes.

Fuck YOUR rules!   >:D
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: Thrifty on December 08, 2008, 12:59:09 PM
As long as if at some point they manage to get her naked.

I don't think that would play well on network television.  Also, Elisha Cuthbert doesn't do nude scenes.

Fuck YOUR rules!   >:D

Don't shoot the messenger!  I got excited when it looked like she was about to do nude in He Was A Quiet Man, but once they got to the shot, it became pretty obvious that was a body double.  And this was before I learned that she had that no nudity policy.
Title: Re: 24 (spoilers)
Post by: MrTorso on December 08, 2008, 02:53:37 PM
Yeah playing a porn star who doesn't get naked is a rip. 



I