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Title: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 10, 2007, 05:04:42 PM
Great cop drama or greatest cop drama? You decide.

Anyway, my teacher has been showing us Homicide for about a few months. We've gotten to the end of Season 3. He's a lazy law teacher but he's the coolest laziest law teacher ever. I also bought myself Season 3 for only 7 dollars and 10 cents on Amazon. That's a steal. I can't wait to start Season 4 and find out what happens to everyone. I can't watch any other cop drama after Homicide. They're just not as good as Homicide was.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: mrbasehart on January 10, 2007, 06:34:34 PM
I never saw Homicide, due to it's irregular showings over here, but I always keep hearing good things about it.  I may scout around ebay one day looking for the first season.  As for cop tv series, I really enjoy NYPD Blue, though I haven't seen past season 4.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 10, 2007, 08:04:00 PM
I never saw Homicide, due to it's irregular showings over here, but I always keep hearing good things about it.  I may scout around ebay one day looking for the first season.  As for cop tv series, I really enjoy NYPD Blue, though I haven't seen past season 4.

Amazon.com has it for dirt cheap used. They're brand new ones used too. They're only ten bucks. Season 3 is just incredible.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: mrbasehart on January 10, 2007, 08:10:37 PM
I never saw Homicide, due to it's irregular showings over here, but I always keep hearing good things about it.  I may scout around ebay one day looking for the first season.  As for cop tv series, I really enjoy NYPD Blue, though I haven't seen past season 4.

Amazon.com has it for dirt cheap used. They're brand new ones used too. They're only ten bucks. Season 3 is just incredible.

Shipping will probably be double that for here.   :)  I might get it if I buy a whole bunch from Amazon.com (which I do frighteningly often!)
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: MrTorso on January 10, 2007, 09:18:42 PM
Great show. I nabbed the full series set during a 50% off sale at Amazon. Comes in a replica file cabinet drawer.

(http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000H5U5TY.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V61532111_.jpg)

Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 10, 2007, 09:22:19 PM
Great show. I nabbed the full series set during a 50% off sale at Amazon. Comes in a replica file cabinet drawer.

(http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000H5U5TY.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V61532111_.jpg)



Lucky bastard. It cost too much for me to get. But, you got it for a 100? That's really good.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Minnesota on January 10, 2007, 10:00:17 PM
I'm a hater... dont like any cop/csi shows (the shield was decent for awhile then lost my interest)
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 10, 2007, 10:01:36 PM
I'm a hater... dont like any cop/csi shows (the shield was decent for awhile then lost my interest)

Wha? Have you seen Homicide?
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Teaflax on January 11, 2007, 12:27:19 AM
Homicide was fan-fucking-tastic. The only two shows I rate as highly are The Shield and Oz. I understand that The Wire is good, but I saw the first two episodes and just couldn't figure out what was going on at all.

Well, and The Prisoner will always be the best TV show of all time bar none, no competition, case closed.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 11, 2007, 12:50:41 AM
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ell, and The Prisoner will always be the best TV show of all time bar none, no competition, case closed.

as much as i liked the prisoner wouldnt simpsons or mst3k beat it?
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Teaflax on January 11, 2007, 02:25:50 AM
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ell, and The Prisoner will always be the best TV show of all time bar none, no competition, case closed.

as much as i liked the prisoner wouldnt simpsons or mst3k beat it?

Nope.

I like humor and stuff, but The Prisoner pulls in so many elements of what I love that it's just unrivalled. I mean, part of it is obiously when and how I first saw it; late nights on PBS when I was about 13, and it just blew my mind. I don't think anything can hit me quite as hard ever again.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 11, 2007, 02:51:10 AM
if ya say so man.  I would like it dvd methinks
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: BEERxTaco on January 11, 2007, 06:49:01 AM
HLOTS (that's how us cool people refer to it lol) was probably the best cop drama ever made, although it really went downhill the last couple of seasons... I bought each season DVD as it was released. They made a movie after the show was cancelled to kind of tie up the loose ends, Homicide: The Movie.

If they could have held the original cast together a little longer it would have been nice... that show was Richard Belzer at his best. In typical Barry Levinson fashion, the seemingly unrehearsed spontaneous banter between the characters (a la Diner) was the highlight of every episode IMHO.

My favorite episode was The Subway (1997) where the guy (played by Vincent D'Onofrio, later of L&O:Criminal Intent fame) gets pushed off the subway platform just as the train arrives. He's alive (someone refers to him as "dead man talking") but only because the train is holding his guts together. Once they manage to get him free... well... his chances are iffy. The police work of the episode revolves around trying to find his fiancee who is out for a jog so he can say goodbye... man, what a great show that was, I really miss Homicide.

The first crossover episode they did with Law & Order had so much chemistry between the characters of Munch and Briscoe, I always thought they should have given them their own series. It woulda been great... loved Jerry Orbach, may he rest in peace.

Oh and one more thing, thay actually did a crossover with X-Files (a crossover between Fox and NBC??), an episode called Unusual Suspects (1997) where the origin of the Lone Gunmen is portrayed. Not a true crossover really, more of a story frame that only uses Munch from Homicide. The "box" was lit way too dark though, not at all like the normal HLOTS set. I guess that was an X-Files thing...
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Sharktopus on January 11, 2007, 08:38:01 AM
Actually, the cool people refer to it TBDSOT (The Best Damn Show On Television). And they're right. I've never seen a higher quality series on TV and I doubt I ever will. It was THAT GOOD. If you haven't seen it, shame on you. >:(

I got a number of friends hooked on it last year, and we all drove down to "Bawlmer" for a few days. You can visit the old empty government building on the Fell's Point waterfront where they shot exteriors and interiors for the police building. If  only we could've gotten onto the roof. The city put up a plaque:

(http://members.aol.com/hlotslinks/images/plaque.jpg)
(Thank you to whomever posted this photo online. The one I took didn't come out that well.)

There was even a white Chevy Cavalier parked out front!

We then went across the street to the Waterfront Hotel Tavern, which stood in for the bar Lewis, Munch, and Bayliss bought. We had a nice dinner upstairs (hooray for Old Bay fries), then played pool on the table where Brisco cleaned out Munch in that Law & Order crossover.

Beg, borrow, steal, or murder to get the Homicide DVDs. (The complete series filing cabinet is well worth it. One of the above-mentioned friends got it for Christmas.) I'm not exaggerating when I say it's by far the best TV drama ever made. 10/10 chalk outlines.

P.S. Love your avatar, Andrew.

P.P.S. NYPD Blue is utter garbage.

I'm a hater... dont like any cop/csi shows (the shield was decent for awhile then lost my interest)

Homicide isn't about cops, it's about people. And yeah, CSI is amazingly stupid.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: BEERxTaco on January 11, 2007, 08:41:02 AM
We then went across the street to the Waterfront Hotel Tavern, which stood in for the bar Lewis, Munch, and Bayliss bought. We had a nice dinner upstairs (hooray for Old Bay fries), then played pool on the table where Brisco cleaned out Munch in that Law & Order crossover.

I am soooooo jealous!  Ya know, I'm making a trip to Baltimore on business next August, I may have to venture down that way myself... I would love to get a beer at that bar!
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Sharktopus on January 11, 2007, 08:45:57 AM
We then went across the street to the Waterfront Hotel Tavern, which stood in for the bar Lewis, Munch, and Bayliss bought. We had a nice dinner upstairs (hooray for Old Bay fries), then played pool on the table where Brisco cleaned out Munch in that Law & Order crossover.

I am soooooo jealous!  Ya know, I'm making a trip to Baltimore on business next August, I may have to venture down that way myself... I would love to get a beer at that bar!

It's absolutely worth it, and really easy. You can get the water taxi at a number of points on Inner Harbor and take a nice boat ride around to Fell's Point. The Waterfront is barely a minute's walk from the taxi landing. The girlfriend and I went back a few months later on her vacation. Fell's Point is really cool. We went to Jimmy's and The Daily Grind as well, for Homicide fans.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: BEERxTaco on January 11, 2007, 09:13:02 AM
Coincidentally, the episode I was referring to earlier, The Subway, airs tomorrow (Friday Jan 12, 2007) at 11:00 am eastern on WGN... (they run HLOTS every day at that time...)
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Rufus T on January 11, 2007, 12:57:39 PM
 The show is awesome. I just bought the first two seasons on dvd. I would've bought the whole series but money is kinda tight. Anyway the series was great. Detective Munch rules! Pembleton rules as well!
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: BEERxTaco on January 11, 2007, 12:59:28 PM
Munch and Pembleton are great, and for some reason I always liked Meldrick Lewis too...
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 11, 2007, 01:45:15 PM
Homicide was fan-fucking-tastic. The only two shows I rate as highly are The Shield and Oz. I understand that The Wire is good, but I saw the first two episodes and just couldn't figure out what was going on at all.

Well, and The Prisoner will always be the best TV show of all time bar none, no competition, case closed.

I saw the first three episodes of The Wire. I didn't like it that much. But the fans of the show keep telling me I've got to keep on watching it because it gets a lot better and the heavy exposition pays off in the end.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 11, 2007, 01:47:34 PM
Coincidentally, the episode I was referring to earlier, The Subway, airs tomorrow (Friday Jan 12, 2007) at 11:00 am eastern on WGN... (they run HLOTS every day at that time...)

I wish I was home at that time. Such a great show.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Sharktopus on January 11, 2007, 05:07:11 PM
Munch and Pembleton are great, and for some reason I always liked Meldrick Lewis too...

Meldrick was always entertaining, but there are a couple of asshole-ish things he did that made me him really unlikable later on, especially to my man Kellerman.

Poor Munch. Such an underused character. Apparently he revealed in a recent SVU episode that he had a fight with his father right before he killed himself. That explains a lot about his attitude.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 11, 2007, 05:10:59 PM
Munch and Pembleton are great, and for some reason I always liked Meldrick Lewis too...

Meldrick was always entertaining, but there are a couple of asshole-ish things he did that made me him really unlikable later on, especially to my man Kellerman.

Poor Munch. Such an underused character. Apparently he revealed in a recent SVU episode that he had a fight with his father right before he killed himself. That explains a lot about his attitude.

I also found interesting in Season 3 of Homicide when Steve Buscemi's character is killed that Bayliss doesn't continue to investigate the case. You know who did it. Munch. His alibi is not reliable. I always found that to be a little great thing they put in. I don't know why they didn't try to bring that up in later seasons.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Sharktopus on January 11, 2007, 05:22:13 PM
Munch and Pembleton are great, and for some reason I always liked Meldrick Lewis too...

Meldrick was always entertaining, but there are a couple of asshole-ish things he did that made me him really unlikable later on, especially to my man Kellerman.

Poor Munch. Such an underused character. Apparently he revealed in a recent SVU episode that he had a fight with his father right before he killed himself. That explains a lot about his attitude.

I also found interesting in Season 3 of Homicide when Steve Buscemi's character is killed that Bayliss doesn't continue to investigate the case. You know who did it. Munch. His alibi is not reliable. I always found that to be a little great thing they put in. I don't know why they didn't try to bring that up in later seasons.

Richard Belzer has stated that he believes Munch killed him, but there's also plausible speculation that Gee did it. My money's on Munch, though.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 11, 2007, 05:30:19 PM
Munch and Pembleton are great, and for some reason I always liked Meldrick Lewis too...

Meldrick was always entertaining, but there are a couple of asshole-ish things he did that made me him really unlikable later on, especially to my man Kellerman.

Poor Munch. Such an underused character. Apparently he revealed in a recent SVU episode that he had a fight with his father right before he killed himself. That explains a lot about his attitude.

I also found interesting in Season 3 of Homicide when Steve Buscemi's character is killed that Bayliss doesn't continue to investigate the case. You know who did it. Munch. His alibi is not reliable. I always found that to be a little great thing they put in. I don't know why they didn't try to bring that up in later seasons.

Richard Belzer has stated that he believes Munch killed him, but there's also plausible speculation that Gee did it. My money's on Munch, though.

It just makes so much sense Munch would do it. He witnessed what happened. He had more incinitive to kill him than anyone else.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Sharktopus on January 11, 2007, 05:36:42 PM
Your avatar just makes me smile, Andrew. I may have to abandon Bender for a while...

You might be interested to know I'm in the early stages of compiling a Homicide soundtrack. (I'm thinking of calling it "Killer Cuts.") I've got the complete listing of songs used on the show, but some choice selections are proving hard to find. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Andrew1911 on January 11, 2007, 05:37:46 PM
Your avatar just makes me smile, Andrew. I may have to abandon Bender for a while...

You might be interested to know I'm in the early stages of compiling a Homicide soundtrack. (I'm thinking of calling it "Killer Cuts.") I've got the complete listing of songs used on the show, but some choice selections are proving hard to find. Any suggestions?

I don't know. Sometimes, the songs used really irritated me. Like in the biker gang episode, they used a song that was so ill fitting, it hurt me emotionally and phsically.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: Sharktopus on January 11, 2007, 05:39:58 PM
Your avatar just makes me smile, Andrew. I may have to abandon Bender for a while...

You might be interested to know I'm in the early stages of compiling a Homicide soundtrack. (I'm thinking of calling it "Killer Cuts.") I've got the complete listing of songs used on the show, but some choice selections are proving hard to find. Any suggestions?

I don't know. Sometimes, the songs used really irritated me. Like in the biker gang episode, they used a song that was so ill fitting, it hurt me emotionally and phsically.

I've found that most fit pretty well. The only ones that bothered me were popular songs that I recognized, because they distracted from the show. That Live song when Kellerman goes to visit his dad at the bottling plant, for example.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: daltysmilth on January 16, 2007, 01:28:23 PM
I've seen every episode of the first 3 seasons, and the movie, all of which I loved.  Pembleton and Bayliss are probably my favorite characters.  I just love the relationship between the two characters.  My favorite bit of dialogue between the characters is when Bayliss (who is not a Catholic) talks about how he went to a Catholic Mass once, and he was so hungry by the time it got to communion that when he went up to receive it, he had to ask for two wafers instead of one.  And Pembleton (who is Catholic) says something like "You got communion?  You're not Catholic."  And Bayliss asks "Is that bad?"  And Pembleton says "If my god wins, you're going to Hell."  It makes me smile just thinking about it.  It makes me think there must have been someone on the writing staff at the time who was Catholic, because it is a surprisinly not well-known fact that non-Catholics aren't supposed to receive communion at a Catholic Mass.  Which might sound unfair, but you have to consider that Catholics are not supposed to receive communion at non-Catholic church services either.  But anyway, it was a joke based on a part of Catholic doctrine that even a lot of Catholics seem to be unaware of, which I enjoyed immensely.  It was something akin to when they'd make some obscure reference to Catholicism on MST3k.  (Like the "It's Liberation Theology verses Opus Dei" comment during Future War.)

Incidentally, has anyone else read Homicide: A Year On The Killing Streets by David Simon?  It's the book on which the show was based.
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: BEERxTaco on January 16, 2007, 02:38:57 PM
Yes, I own that book  :)
Title: Re: Homicide: Life on the Street
Post by: davo on January 24, 2007, 05:54:00 PM
much love for this show. it's on my to rent list so i can watch it again :)