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Title: Best Bond Song?
Post by: gammer on January 06, 2007, 07:17:09 PM
My personal fav is the John Barry Bond theme song from On Her Majesty's Secret Service. It was gritty and old fashioned.

I don't know if this is a guilty pleasure, but I also liked the Duran Duran - View to a Kill song.

You can get the complete list here, half way down the page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_music#Main_title_themes
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 06, 2007, 07:21:46 PM
There's a few that I like:  Tom Jones on Thunderball, Matt Munro on From Russia with Love, Sheryl Crowe's Tomorrow Never Dies and Garbarge's The World is Not Enough.  I think the Bond theme should be kinda bombastic, none of that slow stuff like Carly Simon.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: starfighter on January 06, 2007, 08:33:46 PM
  There have been several good ones, but Bassey rules!!!  Goldfinger and Diamonds are Forever both have those big finishes that just say "Bring on the movie!!"
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Teaflax on January 06, 2007, 11:39:32 PM
Said it in the Best Bond Movie thread: Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, the Shirley Bassey version.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Johnny_Short_Torso on January 09, 2007, 12:49:16 AM
A view to a kill by Duran Duran  ;D
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: gammer on January 09, 2007, 08:56:55 AM
A view to a kill by Duran Duran  ;D

Its a weird song, but I like it.

It goes from a cool Bond song into a gay, 80's chorus and then back again. It's all good.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 09, 2007, 10:20:58 AM
I was thinking about creating a poll about this, but I already created one poll with 22 choices.

My vote goes to Garbage (and David Arnold) in The World Is Not Enough. Honorable mentions for From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, A View To A Kill, A-Ha in The Living Daylights, and, yes, Sheryl Crow in Tomorrow Never Dies.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Rude on January 09, 2007, 10:25:20 AM
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How about Live And Let Die by Paul McCartney, and covered many years later by GN'R?! It was the first James Bond theme song to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Original Song.

-Rude
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 09, 2007, 10:27:14 AM
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How about Live And Let Die by Paul McCartney, and covered many years later by GN'R?!

-Rude

Maybe if it was the GNR cover. Paul McCartney is the wrong guy to be singing about giving the other guy hell. Anyway, shouldn't Live And Let Die have had a theme by, I dunno, a black artist? Not Wings anyway.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: zaxxon25 on January 09, 2007, 10:46:35 AM
"You Only Live Twice" by Nancy Sinatra ... so sumptuous.  The John Barry theme is an excellent nod as well, the only JB soundtrack I own.  Do you know how Christmas trees are grown?
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: MrTorso on January 09, 2007, 10:49:52 AM
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How about Live And Let Die by Paul McCartney, and covered many years later by GN'R?! It was the first James Bond theme song to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Original Song.

-Rude

Which made for a great "live only" parody for Weird Al: Chicken Pot Pie.

I just watched Die Another Day for the first time yesterday. Boy does that Madonna song suck.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 09, 2007, 01:40:20 PM
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How about Live And Let Die by Paul McCartney, and covered many years later by GN'R?! It was the first James Bond theme song to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Original Song.

-Rude

Which made for a great "live only" parody for Weird Al: Chicken Pot Pie.

I just watched Die Another Day for the first time yesterday. Boy does that Madonna song suck.

And otherwise the opening credits sequence is pretty cool. So sad.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Johnny_Short_Torso on January 09, 2007, 10:03:23 PM
I think all the James Bond theme songs are pretty good to great... except for Goldeneye, The world is not enough and Die another day, they are Mediocre at best.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 09, 2007, 11:02:30 PM
three that i like, live and let die, goldfinger, and you only live twice. 

However best bond/not bond song has to be the theme to metal gear solid three.  TOTALLY a bond ripoff and a great song besides. 
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Pak-Man on January 09, 2007, 11:44:40 PM
No, THIS is the best bond/not bond song. :^)

http://www.youtube.com/v/dadNJNN05GM
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 10, 2007, 12:38:35 AM
*whimper*

stupid firewall keeps blocking youtube links and photos people keep posting

I WANT IN ON THE JOKES TOO DAMN IT!!! 
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: BathTub on January 10, 2007, 02:15:45 AM
need to rip the actual spyhard intro rather than the music video. It was made as the movie intro and there are at least 2 things in the 'music video' that don't make sense (in a manner of speaking) because the credits are gone.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 10, 2007, 03:44:38 AM
OOOOOOOOOOOH  Spy hard, well truly if its not gonna be Snake eater then id except that as the best bond/not bond song easily. 
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 10, 2007, 09:58:59 AM
Best Bond music from a non-Bond movie?

http://www.youtube.com/v/eU6Djgf0gNo
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Minnesota on January 10, 2007, 10:18:26 PM
I liked the Garbage one, haven't seen any of the "old" bonds though
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: gammer on January 11, 2007, 06:10:21 AM
I liked the Garbage one, haven't seen any of the "old" bonds though

I strongly urge you to watch at least some of the older ones. Some of them didn't age well with the technology and gadgets, but they are interesting to see, for sure.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 11, 2007, 03:23:29 PM
I think my favourite non-Bond Bond song is the opening theme to The Life of Brian.   ;D
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 11, 2007, 05:33:22 PM
1) The World is Not Enough - I'm a huge fan of (old-school) Garbage and Bond; this captured the mood perfectly.

My thoughts exactly.

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3) On Her Majesty's Secret Service - John Barry rules.  I'm really glad this got to be the title theme instead of the Louis Armstrong song (while fine--it didnt' work as a Bond intro). I should also mention that whoever said Giacchino's score for the Incredibles was a great Bond soundtrack was dead on.  There's a little bit in each of the tracks that steals...ah, borrows from Barry pretty directly, so you get the 007 Theme (From Russia With Love main music), lots of the YOLT riffs, etc. It's great stuff.

I believe Michael Giacchino made no secret of the inspiration for his score for The Incredibles. He should be a shoo-in to replace David Arnold when the time comes.

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19) Casino Royale - Partially this is spite, because I really hate that movie and what it's done to Bond.  But mostly it's because we have a movie made in 2006 with a theme song that sounds like something Sammy Hagar shat out in the days when he was excreting aurally all over the big-haired radiowaves.  Bad, BAD 80s  big hair.  Hey Broccoli, I hear Steve Winwood is looking for work too, why don't we get him to do some piece of shit 80s "pop" version of Bond while we're at it?

I quite enjoyed Casino Royale, but I completely understand your problems with it, as I feel similarly. That said, David Arnold and Chris Cornell's "You Know My Name" was hugely disappointing to me, as I'm a big fan of both Cornell and Arnold's Bond music. The tune is okay, but Cornell completely butchered the delivery, and the constant use of it over and over throughout the movie in place of Monty Norman's classic Bond theme just makes it worse. I understand their reasoning for doing it that way - Bond isn't truly 007 until the end of the movie, but a Bond flick without that theme is just not a proper Bond flick. Just look, or rather listen, to Never Say Never Again.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 11, 2007, 10:26:00 PM
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19) Casino Royale - Partially this is spite, because I really hate that movie and what it's done to Bond.  But mostly it's because we have a movie made in 2006 with a theme song that sounds like something Sammy Hagar shat out in the days when he was excreting aurally all over the big-haired radiowaves.  Bad, BAD 80s  big hair.  Hey Broccoli, I hear Steve Winwood is looking for work too, why don't we get him to do some piece of shit 80s "pop" version of Bond while we're at it?

really?  I loved the movie.  I thought it was a great movie with awesome crisp dialog and impressive action sequences, ill admit the ending dragged but other than that i thought it was really well done.  just my opinion anyways.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: gammer on January 12, 2007, 07:20:17 AM
For a non-main Bond song, I've always liked The Pretenders - If there was a man. Now you might think this sounds gay, but whenever I hear it, it sticks in my head.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on January 12, 2007, 07:39:06 AM
19) Casino Royale - Partially this is spite, because I really hate that movie and what it's done to Bond.  But mostly it's because we have a movie made in 2006 with a theme song that sounds like something Sammy Hagar shat out in the days when he was excreting aurally all over the big-haired radiowaves.  Bad, BAD 80s  big hair.  Hey Broccoli, I hear Steve Winwood is looking for work too, why don't we get him to do some piece of shit 80s "pop" version of Bond while we're at it?

What do you have against Casino Royale?  Is it because it's different than the old Bond movies?  Tough!  The old Bond doesn't work anymore!  Just take a look at Die Another Day - the first Bond movie after 9/11 and its villain is a North Korean who turns himself into an Englishman via impossibly drastic plastic surgery so he can take over the world by using a Nintendo Power Glove that operates a giant "laser"? Which, for some reason, needs to be operated on a plane? Seriously, did they REALLY need to reuse the orbital space laser plan?  Especially after THREE Austin Powers movies have been released.

Give me a break.  It's a new world.  We needed a new Bond - the old one was dead.  We also needed a good adaptation of Casino Royale, which is what the movie was (read the book - it has the same tone as the movie).  Because you're basically criticizing Ian Fleming for not making it "Bondian" enough (if that indeed is the problem you're having with it).

And to be honest, the theme song wasn't that bad, either.  It's no "You Only Live Twice," but I wouldn't go comparing it to (shudder) Sammy Hagar.  And it should DEFINITELY be ahead of "Die Another Day," which is one of the worst SONGS I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Teaflax on January 12, 2007, 10:01:09 AM
19 Bond tunes and not one of them is Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang? No, it wasn't ever used in a movie, but it was wrttein for one byt the most classic Bond theme writing lineup, with the most classic Bond theme vocalist and most of its themes feature on the Thunderball soundtrack.

Unequalled.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on January 12, 2007, 12:56:49 PM

What do you have against Casino Royale?  Is it because it's different than the old Bond movies?  Tough!  The old Bond doesn't work anymore!  Just take a look at Die Another Day - the first Bond movie after 9/11 and its villain is a North Korean who turns himself into an Englishman via impossibly drastic plastic surgery so he can take over the world by using a Nintendo Power Glove that operates a giant "laser"? Which, for some reason, needs to be operated on a plane? Seriously, did they REALLY need to reuse the orbital space laser plan?  Especially after THREE Austin Powers movies have been released.

And to be honest, the theme song wasn't that bad, either.  It's no "You Only Live Twice," but I wouldn't go comparing it to (shudder) Sammy Hagar.  And it should DEFINITELY be ahead of "Die Another Day," which is one of the worst SONGS I've ever heard.

Well, to answer your points:

Yes, I didn't like it because it wasn't Bond. I haven't read the books, but the movies have 40 years of history, too.  I like the movies. I don't really care about the books.  I hate this "reboot" shit that's going around.  You want to reboot? Fine. Then call it something else.  I like my Bond movies to be fun. My favorite one is You Only Live Twice, which is full of fun schlock.  Not once in CR did I even crack a smile. It wasn't enjoyable to watch.

Secondly, I really really hate 80s hair metal. It always makes me think of mullets, sleeveless T-shirts, and Zubaz pants.  And this had 80s Sammy Hagar stink all over it.  It wasn't Bond. It wasn't a good idea.

So you can have CR. Enjoy it. Bond is now a complete series, I guess.

I agree with you about '80's hair metal.  I'll also agree with you about it not being a "fun" escapist Bond movie.  But, once again, neither is the novel.  They couldn't have inserted Q (or any of the gadgets associated with him) without entirely disregarding the source material and effectively taking a massive dump on Ian Fleming's legacy.  I think that the upcoming movies will develop into something that seems more like the Bond that you're more familiar with (just as the books do - not to mention the character of Bond himself).  But personally, I had always wondered how well Bond would fare in a darker setting.

(P.S. You can't tell me that first black-and-white scene didn't scream Bond-ness.  Just the way that Craig delivers the parting shot gives me chills).

By the way, I'm not sure if you noticed this, but the Bond them music doesn't play until the end credits.  It's not part of the score - you don't even hear it in the background.  This seems to support my idea that this is a movie that establishes the origins of Bond's character, and that the movies that follow will feature that character.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 12, 2007, 08:21:50 PM
I liked Casino Royale because it seems, in many ways, a period film.  Because of the lack of gadgetry and the "classic" casino setting, I felt very much that it could've been set in the 50's or 60's without too much trouble. 
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 12, 2007, 08:31:49 PM
despite the laptops and cell phones? 

Whats not escapist bond about it?  he gets two hot chicks in the movie although he only banged the one.  He goes to amazingly rich locations, wears amazingly rich clothes, drives a pretendously rich car or two, and does some cool action sequences.  I think you need to watch it again without thinking about the schlock thats missing and youll see how good it is.  Your expectations were all wrong man.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 12, 2007, 09:13:46 PM
despite the laptops and cell phones? 

Yes.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 12, 2007, 09:55:52 PM
i can accept that.  and oddly enough i agree with you.  :) 
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 13, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
I liked Casino Royale because it seems, in many ways, a period film.  Because of the lack of gadgetry and the "classic" casino setting, I felt very much that it could've been set in the 50's or 60's without too much trouble. 

Indeed. I'd been thinking that a "reinvented" Bond franshise should be set in the '50s or '60s, back when the character was more relevant. Despite Casino Royale being set in the here and now, it certainly has much of the feel of the early films, just with a little less cheek. I imagine that the next Bond will be more of a happy medium not that they've established the new status quo.

And more of Monty Norman's classic Bond theme, please.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Pak-Man on January 13, 2007, 02:21:01 PM
I've worked Cellphone Customer Service, so I also hate cellphone culture, but on the other hand, cellphones are an awesome way to check and post in these here boards while I'm working. :^)
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: BBQ Platypus on January 13, 2007, 04:09:16 PM
If you read my long, rambling post in the Sex Before Marriage thread, you'll probably know my stance on the fetishization of technology.  I'm too lazy to even copy and paste right now, so I'll make you go read it if you haven't. :P
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 13, 2007, 04:14:26 PM
I liked Casino Royale because it seems, in many ways, a period film.  Because of the lack of gadgetry and the "classic" casino setting, I felt very much that it could've been set in the 50's or 60's without too much trouble. 

Yeah, the cellphones thing I found REALLY annoying as well. I have a cellphone, but I'm sort of a luddite about it; I find I hate flip phones, so I went and bought an old candybar style for my next "upgrade," and I disable all stupid bells and whistles functions on it.  I also don't take it out of the house except when I have to drive somewhere or get a call at work on it.  Mostly I'm in it for the cheap long distance (LDR until recently, now SDR).

So I hated that Bond was acting like one of these tech-obsessed morons I see chatting on their cellphones to each other across a table. I loathe cellphone culture. Passionately.

Text messaging is beautiful. Anything that keeps idiots from walking around talking to themselves with cellphone earpieces glued to their heads, or worse, shouting into those goddamn direct connect walkie-talkies is a good thing.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Rufus T on January 13, 2007, 04:32:32 PM
 I know we are getting off topic here but I just had to add my two cents. I very much enjoyed Casino Royale. Daniel Craig's portrayal of Bond was the best since Connery's. If you stop to think about it, the earliest Bond movies resemble Casino Royale quite alot. While Connery did occasionally put on the charmer persona he, for the most part, was an incredibly cold character. I love the fact that Casino Royale brought that back. Oh yeah, and Judi Dench is smoking hot.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 13, 2007, 04:34:07 PM
Oh yeah, and Judi Dench is smoking hot.

Has anyone ever seen young Judi Dench? I haven't and I must say I'm quite curious.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: mrbasehart on January 13, 2007, 08:25:44 PM
Has anyone ever seen young Judi Dench? I haven't and I must say I'm quite curious.

Yeah, she was in a few films back in the 50's and 60's.  Here's what I got after a quick search:

(http://www.djdchronology.com/images/50s.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 13, 2007, 08:31:36 PM
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So I hated that Bond was acting like one of these tech-obsessed morons I see chatting on their cellphones to each other across a table. I loathe cellphone culture. Passionately


you may hate cellular phones (so do i oddly enough) but it was a very clever use of it for spy purposes, and all of that is legitamate.  It was one of the things i liked about the movie is that he was able to do his job with nothing more than a common cell phone and a borrowed laptop. 

You should get a ruggizied cell phone.  Thats what want.  I hate those little toy things i feel like if i sneeze to hard i am gonna break it.  I am not a big fan of anything small or easy to break since i am pretty rough on things.  I essentially want a old WWII field radio that has unlimited minutes :)
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Sharktopus on January 14, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
Has anyone ever seen young Judi Dench? I haven't and I must say I'm quite curious.

Yeah, she was in a few films back in the 50's and 60's.  Here's what I got after a quick search:

(http://www.djdchronology.com/images/50s.jpg)

Is that John Neville next to her? People I only know as old should never have been young. >:(
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: gammer on January 14, 2007, 09:02:33 PM
Is that John Neville next to her? People I only know as old should never have been young. >:(

God, that sure looks like a younger version on him.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: daltysmilth on January 16, 2007, 02:09:32 PM
My top 3 Bond songs are as follows:

1. You Only Live Twice.  It's such a pretty song.  I have no idea what the lyrics mean, but they sound good.  Which is better than a lot of songs nowadays where you can't tell what they're talking about and the lyrics sound terrible.  YOLT, as I like to call it (Well, I don't really like to call it that, but it's easier than typing the whole title out), also happens to be my favorite Connery Bond movie.  It's so cheesy, and largely improbable, and Roald Dahl (who wrote the script), God love him, obviously knew less about the Space Program than the dogs the Russians sent up in their space capsules, but the whole movie was done in such a dignified way.   And let's face it, the crater interior set was cool as hell.

2.  You Know My Name from Casino Royale.  I can't help it.  It's just so catchy.  And unlike many of the Bond theme songs, the lyrics actually seem to mean something.  At least, I think I understand them.  It seems to be written from Bond's perspective, and it's about Vesper.  It's basically saying
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
  And it's true that the main Bond theme doesn't appear in its full form until the end of the movie, but if you listen closely, you can hear hints of it throughout the score.

3.  A View To A Kill.  All the awesomeness of a Duran Duran song with the scope and scale and bombast of a Bond theme.  Need I say more?  Incidentally, has anyone ever seen the video for A View To A Kill that was made using clips from the Legend Of Zelda: Majora's Mask?  It's quite amusing, especially if you've played the game.  Here's a link (no pun intended) to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpneag17Vs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpneag17Vs)
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Teaflax on January 16, 2007, 06:42:32 PM
You Know My Name from Casino Royale.  I can't help it.  It's just so catchy.  And unlike many of the Bond theme songs, the lyrics actually seem to mean something.  At least, I think I understand them.  It seems to be written from Bond's perspective, and it's about Vesper.  It's basically saying
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
  And it's true that the main Bond theme doesn't appear in its full form until the end of the movie, but if you listen closely, you can hear hints of it throughout the score.

I've really warmed to this over the weeks, and whoever said that it sounded like some hair metal tune would have to point to at least one example of such a beast with as many half note modulations as this has (just like a great many Cornell-written songs). I don't find it particularly catchy, but then again, I consider that to be a good thing. I think part of the problem is the arrangement - if one were to tone down the rock sound and ramp up the orchestral backing which in its current incarnation gets rather drowned out, it would be right up there.

As for the theme; the 007 Theme - John Barry's familiar rising/falling half-note motif - is featured quite a lot in the score and is actually hidden in You Know My Name as well, so the two are used in interpolating ways throughout the film. What doesn't show up until the end is The James Bond Theme itself, which is the longer one originally played on the twangy surf guitar and purportedly written by Monty Norman.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Compound on January 22, 2007, 06:48:16 PM
Great topic!

What were the last two, even? Something from Octopussy which I don't even REMEMBER (how good could it have been?) and...what else? I don't even know.


One golden shot means another poor victim
Has come to a glittering end
For a price, he'll erase anyone
The man with the golden gun
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Road_Element on January 25, 2007, 04:30:21 PM

16) Moonraker - Moonraker as a movie sucked. It was laughable, it was bad, it was lame. It did have Holly Goodhead (rrowr), but it also had a really lame main title song by Shirley Bassey. This long, boring, crooning dullness set against trampolining silhouettes. No thank you.


Let me just say i disagree with you on both counts.
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 26, 2007, 09:15:36 AM
Jaws in a space suit?  whats not to like?
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: sarcasm_made_Easy on January 27, 2007, 01:29:42 PM
or maybe, just maybe, sarcasm_made_easy is being sarcastic ;)
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Oceaniclost on January 27, 2007, 05:15:48 PM
I've always been partial to "A View to a Kill"
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Johnny_Short_Torso on January 27, 2007, 09:24:11 PM
3.  A View To A Kill.  All the awesomeness of a Duran Duran song with the scope and scale and bombast of a Bond theme.  Need I say more?  Incidentally, has anyone ever seen the video for A View To A Kill that was made using clips from the Legend Of Zelda: Majora's Mask?  It's quite amusing, especially if you've played the game.  Here's a link (no pun intended) to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpneag17Vs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpneag17Vs)

Hey that was pretty freaking cool!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Best Bond Song?
Post by: Lady Kitsch on January 30, 2007, 12:14:56 PM
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Has anyone ever seen young Judi Dench? I haven't and I must say I'm quite curious.

I am a little ashamed to post this but here's an adults only article dealing with the Best Actress nominees topless where you can see a youngish Judi Dench in a whole new context:  http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003200001-2007040094_1,00.html.   

My Bond song favorites are the popular A View to a Kill and You Only Live Twice and the admittedly embarrassing The Man with the Golden Gun by Lulu. 
My personal worst is the godawful From Russia with Love song.