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Title: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Compound on March 27, 2009, 08:48:51 PM
From http://www.tv.com/story/13415.html

Cartoon Network ditching all-'toon format


By Tim Surette
Published: March 25, 2009 at 04:06:00 PM

Cable station no longer living up to its name, will get in to live-action reality shows, scripted programs.


First MTV stops showing music videos, now this? Cartoon Network is sticking with the "Network" portion of its name, but ditching the strictly "Cartoon" bit, the company announced today. Nineteen new projects were announced, and less than half will be hand-drawn.

"These exciting new projects represent the next phase in Cartoon Network's ambitious, ongoing strategy to re-invent the network and re-energize our youth business overall," said Stuart Snyder.

These new non-cartoons will start airing in the coming 2009-2010 season and feature reality and scripted programs, most of which sound like pint-sized versions of programs currently airing on other networks.

Highlights: The Othersiders is a mini-Ghost Hunters, with five friends exploring scary places; Destroy Build Destroy is like Human Wrecking Balls, with two teams blowing stuff up; Dude, What Would Happen is a Mythbusters clone; Bobb'e Says takes the ridiculously funny child actor Bobb'e J. Thompson (Human Giant, Role Models) in his own take of America's Funniest Home Videos.

Also announced was a live-action Ben 10: Alien Force movie, a Scooby-Doo! prequel telefilm, and a full CG movie titled Firebreather!

Don't worry all you glassy-eyed college students--it doesn't look like the late-night Adult Swim block will be affected by any of this.
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Sigh. Oh look. Cartoon Network's trying to go the Nickelodeon route.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Darth Geek on March 27, 2009, 08:55:45 PM
Destroy Build Destroy
They gave Mike's robot it's own show?! Crow and Tom are gonna be pissed!
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 27, 2009, 09:34:49 PM
Well this makes me glad I am not paying for direct tv any  more.

Is there anything worth watching on American Tv any more?

It seems like all the current shows I watch are from other countries.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: RoninFox on March 27, 2009, 09:44:07 PM
Now if they reprogrammed themselves into the 24 hour Adult Swim Network, then they'd have my attention.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: MSTJedi on March 27, 2009, 10:03:50 PM
This is just sad. Reality shows just need to die. Die a horrible, painful, and final death.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: BBQ Platypus on March 27, 2009, 10:33:34 PM
We should deal with the people who keep making reality shows as we would a cancer - by exposing them to intense doses of radiation until they wither and die.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Steve-O on March 27, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
Hmmm... A Scooby-Doo prequel telefilm?

Tread carefully.  We're awfully close to April Fools'.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: RoninFox on March 27, 2009, 11:01:24 PM
True, but we've already seen CN do some crappy live action stuff.  Didn't they have a live Ace Ventura Jr thing going?
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: MrTorso on March 27, 2009, 11:01:52 PM
as I only watch Adult Swim stuff it doesn't really affect me much. 
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: bratpop on March 28, 2009, 02:00:26 AM
MYAH! Bitch, complain, rant, nerd rage, anger, etc.

I won't bother, I really won't.

I'll just say I'm shocked. If I'm reading this right, they're going with kid programs featuring kids? Like, those things that get stuck to the bottom of your shoe, kids? Because I just really thought if they went in any direction, it would be toward more adult programming, since Adult Swim has been the most popular thing on the network for years. Unless that's the point, and they're trying to get back the younger audiences.

Ultimately though... ultimately... who cares? These shows won't be on when I tune in during primetime, I can assume. I don't know any of their other childrens programming, so why would I moan about these new ones?
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Steve-O on March 28, 2009, 02:10:02 AM
MYAH! Bitch, complain, rant, nerd rage, anger, etc.

I won't bother, I really won't.

Wow.  There really is a first time for everything.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: bratpop on March 28, 2009, 02:12:38 AM
Well, you could issue a press release that TNT has greenlit a new show that does NOT involve dynamite, and people would complain about it without really thinking.

Now, if they changed their name to just "Network," I'd go ahead and complain.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Chaos on March 28, 2009, 03:48:10 AM
Why do people always bitch so much about reality TV? You may not like it, but obviously some people do, because it continues to be a profitable venture. Don't blame the networks, blame the fucksticks who eat up those idiotic shows and make it worth the networks' time.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: bratpop on March 28, 2009, 03:51:59 AM
Well, I'm pretty sure reality TV starring children is illegal. Or at least it damn well should be. Why are kids only allowed to work in the worst possible, most mentally damaging business? Especially after all the evidence.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Chaos on March 28, 2009, 03:55:38 AM
Woah, easy there with your "evidence" talk. If you're not careful, someone will make a reality TV show based on CSI. Er... ANOTHER reality TV show based on CSI, that is. ;)
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: bratpop on March 28, 2009, 05:26:39 AM
Oh, I didn't realize it was that easy. Okay, here are things I would like to see reality shows about:

kittens
nerd girls
actual dragons
Bruce Campbell
LEGOs
the Loch Ness monster
the guys who come up with all the movie ideas for Nicholas Cage
Nicholas Cage
the guys who come up with Hot Wheels cars that look like dragons
Weird Al
actual unicorns and their workday
Jesus
soda
movie voice-over guy
Crispin Glover
pizza
Christopher Guest and/or Michael McKean
marshmallows
Patton Oswalt
ScarJo's boobs
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Bob on March 28, 2009, 07:19:22 AM
Personally, I dont see anything wrong with a network wanting to stretch their boundries and try new things.    Change is often painful, but good.

HOWEVER, when there are walking knobs who can say things like "re-invent the network and re-energize our youth business overall,"  then I have bits of vomit form in the back of my mouth.    What kind of drone talks like this?
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Doctor Who? on March 28, 2009, 08:56:11 AM
Cartoon network was the only network left I counted as good,so this is very sad news.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Chaos on March 28, 2009, 10:21:17 AM
Your main mistake was in the assumption that "network" and "good" could exist within the same sentence non-ironically.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Darth Geek on March 28, 2009, 05:53:50 PM
I'd like to see a reality show about LEGOs too.
Maybe a reality show about the people who make those giant LEGO sculptures?
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: PlayMSTie on March 28, 2009, 08:48:50 PM
Will they now rename it CyNy?

(Makes as much sense as SyFy.)
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Pak-Man on March 29, 2009, 11:48:54 PM
Durnit, Cartoon Network. You were supposed to be different. You were supposed to be the network I could tune in to when I didn't want to see any actual human beings.

Does this mean Boomarang will start showing Kids Incorporated, Small Wonder and Saved by the Bell? :^)
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: daltysmilth on March 30, 2009, 12:25:22 AM
I'm going to start a network called "The All Mystery Science Theater 3000" Network and never show any episodes of mst3k or any of the subsequent works of the writers/stars of the show.  I bet people would love that. 

At least Comedy Central is still showing stuff that's supposed to be comedic, though, right?  So we've still got that.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: bratpop on March 30, 2009, 06:54:03 AM
Does it matter, when people say Comedy Central sucks anyway, regardless of how many years its been sinced they watched it or what's currently airing? As long as people keep saying a given network sucks, those networks might as well actually try to suck. Then they can reboot and NOT suck. It's like New Coke. It's all a conspiracy.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: MSTJedi on March 30, 2009, 07:03:33 AM
Yeah, but like New Coke, no matter how much better it is, people will still prefer the original for some weird reason.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: bratpop on March 30, 2009, 07:04:53 AM
Yes, that was my point. Please look up the rivetting true story of New Coke and the conspiracy theories therein.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: MSTJedi on March 30, 2009, 07:09:49 AM
Well, I know I prefer Diet Coke, which is based on New Coke over the classic Coca-Cola or even the Zero version based off of classic. I don't know about conspiracy, but it definitely had more to do with brand recognition than taste. That's what they get for all the subliminal advertising.
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Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 30, 2009, 07:37:35 AM
And these people wonder why viewership keeps dropping and dropping.....

Yes, that was my point. Please look up the rivetting true story of New Coke and the conspiracy theories therein.

It's only a conspiracy theory if it isn't true.

They never expected New Coke to work.  It was just so they could bring back "Classic" Coke with high fruitose corn syrup instead of sugar after they bought up production of high fruitose corn syrup.  Kept "Classic" off the market just long enough that people wouldn't notice the change.

They changed the recipe for Coke - that's not a secret.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: MSTJedi on March 30, 2009, 07:44:20 AM
It's amazing what corporations will do to save buck.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 30, 2009, 08:17:47 AM
At least we got this out of it.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y0ZlSySQA1Q/R7JzWpoohhI/AAAAAAAACfc/aCrpo1_8vfM/s400/1985-max+headroomo.jpg)

BTW, does this mean that they finally figured out who owns the character and they can release the shows on DVD?

http://www.youtube.com/v/LKt7AJLIFL0&hl=en&fs=1
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Darth Geek on March 30, 2009, 09:59:47 AM
At least we got this out of it.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y0ZlSySQA1Q/R7JzWpoohhI/AAAAAAAACfc/aCrpo1_8vfM/s400/1985-max+headroomo.jpg)

BTW, does this mean that they finally figured out who owns the character and they can release the shows on DVD?

http://www.youtube.com/v/LKt7AJLIFL0&hl=en&fs=1
I hope so. I'd get the DVD set as soon as it came out. And then I'd actually sit down and watch it again and probably be massively dissapointed.
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on March 30, 2009, 10:48:09 AM
BTW, does this mean that they finally figured out who owns the character and they can release the shows on DVD?

http://www.youtube.com/v/LKt7AJLIFL0&hl=en&fs=1
I hope so. I'd get the DVD set as soon as it came out. And then I'd actually sit down and watch it again and probably be massively dissapointed.

I don't know.....I have a set of "20 Minutes Into the Future" and clips of the interview show on YouTube.  Still some great (albeit dated) stuff.

I'd love "official" sets for commentary and backstage stuff.
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Post by: Rude on March 30, 2009, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Darth Geek
I hope so. I'd get the DVD set as soon as it came out. And then I'd actually sit down and watch it again and probably be massively dissapointed.

I have all the episodes on DVD, and yeah... they're not as great as i remembered.

-Rude
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: Tyrant on March 30, 2009, 11:42:34 AM
Well, I see it as Cartoon Network not so much selling out, but just being what it is: a business. It's doing what most businesses do to survive, so I can't blame it for being what it is and behaving the way a normal business would.

I've always wished Adult Swim, which is technically its own network, would just part ways with Cartoon Network and get its own independant station. Then I probably would never have any reason to even flip the remote to Cartoon Network, since AS is all I watch on there anyway.

ATHF, Home Movies, Venture Bros, etc.....24/7. Just imagine it..... ;D
Title: Re: And Another Network Reboots....
Post by: bratpop on March 30, 2009, 09:13:46 PM
You could say it was a survival tactic only if there was some data suggesting kid-filled ripoffs of Discovery Channel and G4 shows was a formula for success. Otherwise, they're going to be limping their way to the unemployment office because they shot themselves in the foot (feet?). It was pretty stupid when they started showing live action on Adult Swim, but this is ambitious level of dumb. Not that I care, of course.