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Title: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: MrTorso on September 01, 2008, 07:21:46 PM
I bring you Hollywood Undead:

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o255/MrTorso/l_920ab3e55a1a81487be2a2a6e962a431.jpg)

From their wiki:

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Hollywood Undead is a band whose music has been described as a mixture of hip hop, emo and metal.[1]

The band originated in 2005 from a song Deuce and J-Dog posted on MySpace to positive views and which led them to form the group Hollywood Undead with their friends Johnny 3 Tears, Charlie Scene, Funny Man and Da Kurlzz.[1] In their first nine weeks on MySpace they had almost a million plays and by 2006 they were said to be leading MySpace's top unsigned artists list with over 8 million plays.[2][3] In 2005 they became the first band to sign up with MySpace Records.[4] By 2008 the band had over 40 million plays and over 400,000 friends on MySpace.[5]

The band perform in individual masks in order to maintain an air of mystery.[1] This originated from their MySpace page which they filled with pictures of themselves in hockey masks.[2] They made their live debut in August 2008 at the Virgin Mobile Festival after winning 285,000 votes, over half the total, in a Book the Band contest against four other bands.[6] Their popular song Undead is featured on the Madden 2009 Soundtrack and was released as an official single on August 19, 2008, making it the second single from Swan Songs.

Though the group first signed a record contract in 2005, they spent nearly three years working on their debut album.[7] Hollywood Undead have signed a contract with A&M/Octone Records and will release their debut album Swan Songs on 02 September 2008.[6]


UGH.  We have been mocking this album at work since we got a promo last week. Especially the guy who calls himself "Johnny 3 Tears". What is really sad is that it is going to sell like hotcakes. We even had some guy offer us $100 to sell him our promo copy so he could get it early....
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: mrbasehart on September 01, 2008, 07:24:10 PM
These are the sorts of bands who will look even more ridiculous in about 10 years.  They are the Flock of Seagulls of the 00s.   :)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: BBQ Platypus on September 01, 2008, 07:29:24 PM
Oh, definitely.  A decade or so from now, we're going to look back at the music of this decade with embarrassment.  Actually, I think it's more likely that we'll try to forget it ever happened.  Especially that whole Jonas Brothers nonsense.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Darth Geek on September 01, 2008, 07:46:40 PM
"I can't believe some of the S%!& I used to do with you."
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 01, 2008, 09:41:19 PM
I listened to Amazon's samples from their album. Good grief, this crap sucks. Not nearly as much as Smite the Righteous, but still pretty bad.

Emo is a ridiculous music industry trend. You have these pop bands pretending to be angry and emotional, and this becomes the soundtrack for people who think that they're angry and emotional.

I find it amusing that these guys attempt to mix that style of faking emotion with a bogus attempt at some kind of bizarre 'gangsta' rap, so you've got one track that has them pretending to be depressed, followed by a track featuring them pretending to be "yeah, I'm a pimp, I'm a gangsta, what, what what?" It's like someone mixed several My Chemical Romance tracks with tracks by Eminem and Limp Bizkit. It's completely ridiculous.

If you want a good rap/rock fusion, try Hed PE. They're actually legitimate musicians.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Courtney on September 02, 2008, 07:10:35 AM
I listened to Amazon's samples from their album. Good grief, this crap sucks. Not nearly as much as Smite the Righteous, but still pretty bad.

He's not even around anymore.  I'm pretty sure you can cool it on insulting his band nonstop, Isaac.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 02, 2008, 08:17:51 AM
Any form of "Metal" that associates itself with "Emo" and/or "Hip Hop" is NO form of "Metal" at all.

And the masks trend has been done and barely done right. That whole "air of mystery" bullshit is so pathetic. It makes me want to hurt them all. Very bad.


I listened to Amazon's samples from their album. Good grief, this crap sucks. Not nearly as much as Smite the Righteous, but still pretty bad.

He's not even around anymore.  I'm pretty sure you can cool it on insulting his band nonstop, Isaac.

What's sad is, he thinks the Smite the Righteous dude is still listening to him...
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on September 02, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
It should not take 3 years to make an album of their genre(s?), they're either lazy or overdoing it. The only other explanation I can think of is their album's producer is Nathan Explosion and he keeps deleting the whole album.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: a pretty girl is like on September 02, 2008, 10:58:32 AM
These are the sorts of bands who will look even more ridiculous in about 10 years.  They are the Flock of Seagulls of the 00s.   :)

More like the KISS of the '00s.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on September 02, 2008, 11:00:25 AM
It's a slightly more effeminate version of Slipknot!

Listen to the iTunes sample of their single "Undead" while looking at that picture of them. Your head will explode.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: mrbasehart on September 02, 2008, 05:09:58 PM
These are the sorts of bands who will look even more ridiculous in about 10 years.  They are the Flock of Seagulls of the 00s.   :)

More like the KISS of the '00s.

But Kiss made good music.  And were intentionally kitschy.  Those guys are just embarassing themselves.  :)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: BBQ Platypus on September 02, 2008, 05:55:59 PM
These are the sorts of bands who will look even more ridiculous in about 10 years.  They are the Flock of Seagulls of the 00s.   :)

More like the KISS of the '00s.

But Kiss made good music.  And were intentionally kitschy.  Those guys are just embarassing themselves.  :)

I hate KISS.  But these guys are much, much worse.  I'd rather listen to a 24-hour loop of "Love Gun" than listen to a single album from one of these douchebags.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: a pretty girl is like on September 02, 2008, 08:01:42 PM
These are the sorts of bands who will look even more ridiculous in about 10 years.  They are the Flock of Seagulls of the 00s.   :)

More like the KISS of the '00s.

But Kiss made good music.  And were intentionally kitschy.  Those guys are just embarassing themselves.  :)

We'll have to agree to disagree on KISS.  These current douchebags though, we're in the same boat.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 03, 2008, 12:53:49 AM
Any form of "Metal" that associates itself with [...] "Hip Hop" is NO form of "Metal" at all.

Anthrax.

What's sad is, he thinks the Smite the Righteous dude is still listening to him...

I don't. I genuinely hate the band.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Kzinistzerg on September 03, 2008, 11:02:59 AM
Well, hopefully the masks will at least prevent them from revealing their identities, thus cursing the rest of their lives with internet links to their awful lack of talent and preventing them from ever getting a real job.

Or have they already?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on September 03, 2008, 11:16:44 AM
What's sad is, he thinks the Smite the Righteous dude is still listening to him...

I don't. I genuinely hate the band.
OK, WE GET IT.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 03, 2008, 11:21:49 AM
What's sad is, he thinks the Smite the Righteous dude is still listening to him...

I don't. I genuinely hate the band.
OK, WE GET IT.

I think he confuses that phrase with "tell us how you genuinely feel about the band"
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 03, 2008, 06:14:15 PM
What's sad is, he thinks the Smite the Righteous dude is still listening to him...

I don't. I genuinely hate the band.
OK, WE GET IT.

I think he confuses that phrase with "tell us how you genuinely feel about the band"

I think that you don't understand that posts on a message board for a comedy website are sometimes intended to be funny. Is it better to get aggravated every time I mention that band, or to laugh?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 03, 2008, 07:18:18 PM
We even had some guy offer us $100 to sell him our promo copy so he could get it early....

Aw come on!  Stop mocking me!  I'm a HUGE fan and thought I'd be able to get the hookup from a fellow board member!   :D



Please tell me you sold it to him and split the money with everyone.

Can you imagine the shame he'd feel after bragging to his friends that he got it early and actually listened to it?

Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 06, 2008, 09:51:12 AM

If you want a good rap/rock fusion, try Hed PE. They're actually legitimate musicians.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

I don't know what's funnier, you calling Hed PE "good" or stating that they're legitimate musicians.

If you want a band that has successfully incorporated some hip-hop elements into its rock formula, try Faith No More. Everything else I've heard pales in comparison, including the BORING Anthrax.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 06, 2008, 09:54:11 AM
Any form of "Metal" that associates itself with "Emo" and/or "Hip Hop" is NO form of "Metal" at all.

And the masks trend has been done and barely done right. That whole "air of mystery" bullshit is so pathetic. It makes me want to hurt them all. Very bad.

I have this picture in my head of you stroking your beard with a smug look on your face while you contemplate what you're going to post.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 06, 2008, 10:50:36 AM
Any form of "Metal" that associates itself with "Emo" and/or "Hip Hop" is NO form of "Metal" at all.

And the masks trend has been done and barely done right. That whole "air of mystery" bullshit is so pathetic. It makes me want to hurt them all. Very bad.

I have this picture in my head of you stroking your beard with a smug look on your face while you contemplate what you're going to post.

**strokes beard
Hmm, you are quite correct. I despise many things, and am quite smug.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 01:07:07 PM
If you want a good rap/rock fusion, try Hed PE. They're actually legitimate musicians.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

I don't know what's funnier, you calling Hed PE "good" or stating that they're legitimate musicians.

If you want a band that has successfully incorporated some hip-hop elements into its rock formula, try Faith No More. Everything else I've heard pales in comparison, including the BORING Anthrax.

I thought you'd learned your lesson, you dumb fuck. Were you hit in the back of the head with a shovel? Is that why you've decided to make yourself the matron of all taste in music, even though you know absolutely NOTHING about the music you bash? "No, don't listen to that, the moron who only listens to death metal 100% of the time thinks it sucks!" You think that Dr. Octagon is a death metal band, right? Have you ever listened to an album, or do you buy music for the cover artwork, you dumb fuck? ::)

Hed PE are a good band and legitimate musicians (by the way, don't buy the bogus "greatest hits" album Jive put out...they're ripping the band off! Hed PE aren't making a DIME off that disc! You are stealing from the band if you buy that CD). Hed PE are one of the few bands to cross punk with hip-hop and elements of reggae and metal, and not only that, do it well.

But, then again, you have your head so far up your ass that you can see your mother's fist when she pushes your teeth in, so, maybe you aren't the best person to discuss...well, anything, with.

That's the most ridiculous cop-out the internet has ever known. The instant someone disagrees with the opinion of the masses, it's trolling. Did you ever stop to consider that people have differing opinions?

WOW. Hey, Inbred Asshole, FUCK YOU.

Is there anyone who shares Inbred Asshole's opinion? Maybe someone who is not a functioning moron?

(By the way, the BEST hip-hop/metal fusion, ever? ESHAM, who was a MAJOR influence on Kool Keith and dozens of other acid rappers.)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 06, 2008, 03:32:31 PM
I thought you'd learned your lesson, you dumb fuck. Were you hit in the back of the head with a shovel? Is that why you've decided to make yourself the matron of all taste in music, even though you know absolutely NOTHING about the music you bash? "No, don't listen to that, the moron who only listens to death metal 100% of the time thinks it sucks!" You think that Dr. Octagon is a death metal band, right? Have you ever listened to an album, or do you buy music for the cover artwork, you dumb fuck? ::)

(By the way, the BEST hip-hop/metal fusion, ever? ESHAM, who was a MAJOR influence on Kool Keith and dozens of other acid rappers.)

Yes Isaac.. I have never even bothered to listen to any of the music I dislike. I'm like you in that the only life I have is on a message board, where I constantly start shit because no one would otherwise pay attention to me. I also incessantly hype the WORST fucking bands such as Inane Clown Pussy, Hed PE, Esham (who by the way was influenced by Kool Keith and not the other way around) and other such acts that only imbeciles with a low IQ and a lack of self esteem would consider talented.

All sarcasm aside,  I believe I've already established the fact that I listen to a far wider variety of music than you do. As far as I'm concerned, you listen to three different types of music: 1.) avant-garde rock (Frank Zappa) 2.) acid rap (Dr. Octagon) and 3.) complete and utter shit (everything else).

But, then again, you have your head so far up your ass that you can see your mother's fist when she pushes your teeth in, so, maybe you aren't the best person to discuss...well, anything, with.

At least I know my mother... yours took off the moment she first saw you. It must have had something to do with that hatchet man birthmark you have. I'll bet you don't know your father, either. That explains the way you act around here. It must have been real tough being passed around from one orphanage to another, but I must remind you that we are NOT running a daycare here.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 03:38:39 PM
I thought you'd learned your lesson, you dumb fuck. Were you hit in the back of the head with a shovel? Is that why you've decided to make yourself the matron of all taste in music, even though you know absolutely NOTHING about the music you bash? "No, don't listen to that, the moron who only listens to death metal 100% of the time thinks it sucks!" You think that Dr. Octagon is a death metal band, right? Have you ever listened to an album, or do you buy music for the cover artwork, you dumb fuck? ::)

(By the way, the BEST hip-hop/metal fusion, ever? ESHAM, who was a MAJOR influence on Kool Keith and dozens of other acid rappers.)

Yes Isaac.. I have never even bothered to listen to any of the music I dislike. I'm like you in that the only life I have is on a message board, where I constantly start shit because no one would otherwise pay attention to me. I also incessantly hype the WORST fucking bands such as Inane Clown Pussy, Hed PE, Esham (who by the way was influenced by Kool Keith and not the other way around) and other such acts that only imbeciles with a low IQ and a lack of self esteem would consider talented.

WRONG. Esham was performing acid rap in the 1980s. He released his first album in 1989 -- pure acid rap. When Kool Keith was with Ultramagnetic MCs, he did not perform acid rap. Kool Keith didn't start releasing acid rap until the LATE 1990s, you fucking idiot.

All sarcasm aside,  I believe I've already established the fact that I listen to a far wider variety of music than you do. As far as I'm concerned, you listen to three different types of music: 1.) avant-garde rock (Frank Zappa) 2.) acid rap (Dr. Octagon) and 3.) complete and utter shit (everything else).

Because you are a moron. You lowered your IQ by listening to shitty death metal, and thus this is the only type of music you listen to when you are not bashing bands you've never heard. You listen to a wider variety of music than I do? Wow. That's cute. "NA-NA-NA-NA-NA, BRUTAL DEATH METAL, YAAAARGH!" You're a fucking idiot. (This is not a crack against EVERYONE who enjoys death metal -- just idiots like Inbred Asshole.)

What's your reasoning for my supposed lack of taste? That I don't listen to bands whose vocalist sounds like the goddamn COOKIE MONSTER, dipshit?

But, then again, you have your head so far up your ass that you can see your mother's fist when she pushes your teeth in, so, maybe you aren't the best person to discuss...well, anything, with.

At least I know my mother... yours took off the moment she first saw you. It must have had something to do with that hatchet man birthmark you have. I'll bet you don't know your father, either. That explains the way you act around here. It must have been real tough being passed around from one orphanage to another, but I must remind you that we are NOT running a daycare here.

PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN AND LISTEN TO SOMETHING THAT ISN'T "BRUTAL"! Widen your horizon, you fucking hick. Mix some Varese, Roy Orbison, Bob Marley and Funkadelic with the crap you listen to!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 06, 2008, 03:46:44 PM
*yawn*

So tell me, Isaac... what IS the difference between a brutal death metal band and a melodic death metal band? I mean, you're the musical expert and I'm so confused on the matter.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 03:48:46 PM
*yawn*

So tell me, Isaac... what IS the difference between a brutal death metal band and a melodic death metal band? I mean, you're the musical expert and I'm so confused on the matter.

The difference is that one will occasionally be purchased by someone who actually listens to the music they spend their money on, and one will be just another random purchase from idiots like you.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: torgosPizza on September 06, 2008, 03:50:15 PM
You guys are hilarious.

"I'm the master of all musical knowledge!"

"No, I am the king of all music facts!'

"The hell you say! I know everything there is to know about music, and listen to a wider variety of music than you do!"

"No, I have more eclectic musical tastes!"

*fistfight*
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 03:52:42 PM
I don't give a shit about what anyone else listens to, but I bust a gut laughing every time some twerp like IA thinks that he gets to tell me what to listen to and what not to listen to, because 100% of his frequently-played albums are "BRUTAAAAAAALLLL!"
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 06, 2008, 03:55:02 PM
You guys are hilarious.

"I'm the master of all musical knowledge!"

"No, I am the king of all music facts!'

"The hell you say! I know everything there is to know about music, and listen to a wider variety of music than you do!"

"No, I have more eclectic musical tastes!"

*fistfight*

Hey, I'm just having a bit of fun while I wait around and Isaac's always game. I can always count on him being around, no matter what day of the week or what time it is... it's ALWAYS Isaac time!

PS, I AM The King of All Musical Knowledge!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 03:56:04 PM
You guys are hilarious.

"I'm the master of all musical knowledge!"

"No, I am the king of all music facts!'

"The hell you say! I know everything there is to know about music, and listen to a wider variety of music than you do!"

"No, I have more eclectic musical tastes!"

*fistfight*

Hey, I'm just having a bit of fun while I wait around and Isaac's always game. I can always count on him being around, no matter what day of the week or what time it is... it's ALWAYS Isaac time!

PS, I AM The King of All Musical Knowledge!

How much crack IS in your system, by the way?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 06, 2008, 03:58:08 PM
*yawn*

So tell me, Isaac... what IS the difference between a brutal death metal band and a melodic death metal band? I mean, you're the musical expert and I'm so confused on the matter.

The difference is that one will occasionally be purchased by someone who actually listens to the music they spend their money on, and one will be just another random purchase from idiots like you.

A blind purchase still has a chance of being good. When you buy an ICP or Hed PE record, you know you're getting crap.

I'm going to ask you once more: what is the difference between brutal death metal and melodic death metal? If you don't know, just say so.. everyone already knows you're retarded so it won't cause anymore harm.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 06, 2008, 03:59:55 PM
How much crack IS in your system, by the way?

Just a little. I've been abusing the bass lately and I need to get that fixed before it becomes a bigger problem.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 04:00:38 PM
*yawn*

So tell me, Isaac... what IS the difference between a brutal death metal band and a melodic death metal band? I mean, you're the musical expert and I'm so confused on the matter.

The difference is that one will occasionally be purchased by someone who actually listens to the music they spend their money on, and one will be just another random purchase from idiots like you.

A blind purchase still has a chance of being good. When you buy an ICP or Hed PE record, you know you're getting crap.

Wow.

That's the most ridiculous cop-out the internet has ever known. The instant someone disagrees with the opinion of the masses, it's trolling. Did you ever stop to consider that people have differing opinions?

Again, WOW!

I'm going to ask you once more: what is the difference between brutal death metal and melodic death metal? If you don't know, just say so.. everyone already knows you're retarded so it won't cause anymore harm.

What's the difference between an Ingrown Asshair and an Asshole? One serves a purpose, and the other is simply annoying.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 06, 2008, 04:03:21 PM
That's what I thought, Isaac.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: torgosPizza on September 06, 2008, 04:07:38 PM
No need to stoop to his level.

Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 04:08:05 PM
That's what I thought, Isaac.

Yeah, this is about what I expected from a person who repeatedly tries to show us his own feces.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: torgosPizza on September 06, 2008, 04:09:24 PM
So who wants to take a time out?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 06, 2008, 04:22:24 PM
Hollywood Undead: Cause of the great Rifftrax Civil War of 2008.

Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 04:25:11 PM
Hollywood Undead: Cause of the great Rifftrax Civil War of 2008

Who's arguing about Hollywood Undead? ???

Wait, does IA actually like that crap, and was offended by my putdowns of the band? That explains everything!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 06, 2008, 04:32:33 PM
Hollywood Undead: Cause of the great Rifftrax Civil War of 2008

Who's arguing about Hollywood Undead? ???

Wait, does IA actually like that crap, and was offended by my putdowns of the band? That explains everything!

It's either that or that it started in a thread originally about them.  Flip a coin.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 04:39:50 PM
Hollywood Undead: Cause of the great Rifftrax Civil War of 2008

Who's arguing about Hollywood Undead? ???

Wait, does IA actually like that crap, and was offended by my putdowns of the band? That explains everything!

It's either that or that it started in a thread originally about them.  Flip a coin.

I think all of this just goes to show how bad Hollywood Undead is. Because the band is so crappy, we'd rather discuss anything BUT Hollywood Undead in a thread ABOUT Hollywood Undead, and, in that retrospect, we are joined together by our hatred of Hollywood Undead! :D

And the Public Enemy/Anthrax collaboration rocks. Seriously.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 06, 2008, 04:51:23 PM
So who wants to take a time out?

It's obvious to me who needs the time out. Ingrown Asshair is just a metal maniac. I am too. We understand that our music is not enjoyed by the masses. We understand it's considered stupid and moronic by some. We understand why people aren't won over by "cookie monster" vocals. It is Isaac who doesn't understand. He is appalled that we might throw a barb in his direction regarding his insistence that rap/metal is a good fusion, because he is insecure. He thinks we are out to get him, when in fact we, as metalheads, do it just to piss him off and laugh when he gets upset.

It's what we do, and we mean no harm. But he doesn't get that. He defends his musical tastes so vehemently that he'll drop the f-bomb with aplomb and call us every name in the book, as if it actually sinks into our moronic metalhead brains. It doesn't. Rap/Metal still sucks, and we still laugh at his anger.

Yet we are at ease. We are not steaming. We do not need time out to cool down.

And by the way, the contents of this post are in regards to "Rap/Metal" fusion only and not legitimate genres such as classical, jazz, rock, funk, etc. After all, we ARE talking about a band who's main ingredients are Metal and Rap.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: RoninFox on September 06, 2008, 04:53:32 PM
Hollywood Undead: Cause of the great Rifftrax Civil War of 2008.



The 2007 war was Transformers based, right?  I'm keeping notes for when the history books are ready.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 06, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
Hollywood Undead: Cause of the great Rifftrax Civil War of 2008.



The 2007 war was Transformers based, right?  I'm keeping notes for when the history books are ready.

Pretty sure it was. 
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 06, 2008, 05:11:13 PM
Hollywood Undead: Cause of the great Rifftrax Civil War of 2008.



The 2007 war was Transformers based, right?  I'm keeping notes for when the history books are ready.

And don't forget the chapter about funny entries in 20 questions games. I believe number 1 is still the "rudimentary lathe" bit.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 05:36:05 PM
So who wants to take a time out?

It's obvious to me who needs the time out. Ingrown Asshair is just a metal maniac. I am too. We understand that our music is not enjoyed by the masses. We understand it's considered stupid and moronic by some. We understand why people aren't won over by "cookie monster" vocals. It is Isaac who doesn't understand.

I do not need a time out. Your attitude is all wrong in the assumption that I dislike Ingrown Asshair because he enjoys metal, because I enjoy metal. The reason that I dislike Ingrown Asshair is because he's a fucking idiot. I don't hate metal. I actually do enjoy metal, really! Even death metal! (Well, if Opeth and Sepultura count.) And my beef with Ingrown has nothing to do with him listening to 100% "brutal" music...it's that he thinks that he gets to tell me what music I can and can't enjoy. And apparently he feels the way about my taste in movies, since he once tried to explain to me that Night of the Living Dead, Halloween and The Little Shop of Horrors are "boring". He also ignores the fact that the music I listen to is very much respected in the music world, by people who matter more than some whiny chump who bangs his skull into his desk every time someone mentions something that he dislikes.

Let's get real here, I hate Eminem, but if Chuck D believes that he is important, I'm not going to argue with him, because Chuck D definitely knows more about hip hop than I do. Just the same, Chuck D has acknowledged (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1457847/09302002/dilated_peoples.jhtml) Esham and Insane Clown Posse's importance toward Detroit hip hop. Would you argue with him about this fact?

It is Isaac who doesn't understand. He is appalled that we might throw a barb in his direction regarding his insistence that rap/metal is a good fusion, because he is insecure.

I am not insecure. You are completely wrong. That is the most idiotic thing I have ever read on a message board. Secondly, the only comment I made regarding rap-metal was that Anthrax did a good job of it, and that Esham is also good (Esham is actually hip hop/acid rap, but the lyrical content and rock fusion is enough for Esham to come closer to rap-metal than any of the shitty mainstream rock bands that rap). I never mentioned any other rap-metal. I was simply stating that a metal band having an association with hip-hop does not mean that they are not good, and that "Bring the Noise" is undeniably a classic track. That's all that I ever said.

because he is insecure. He thinks we are out to get him, when in fact we, as metalheads, do it just to piss him off and laugh when he gets upset.

I don't think that anyone is "out to get me". That idea is completely ludicrous. I am simply amused by the fact that Ingrown can't handle the fact that people enjoy more than "brutal" music, so I poke fun at him a little bit, and he gets the idea that I am personally insulting him and ends up snapping at me for no reason.

It's bizarre that Ingrown claims to enjoy Candiria, but that he hates Hed PE for some reason, considering that Hed PE are better than Candiria, and are pretty much based in the same idea: punk + hip hop + occasional fusions of genres like metal, jazz, etc. Maybe it was the reggae influences that threw him off. Seems to be the same reason he hates Sepultura's Roots album: too much tribal music gettin' in the way of that brutal shit, right, Ingrown?

Oh, and it's truly hilarious that, in Ingrown's anti-Hed PE thread, he encourages people to buy the compilation their old record label released without their involvement and without paying the band a cent for the music they made, since he claims to be a Frank Zappa fan. If he was actually alive in the 1970s (impossible for a five-year-old), would he have been out there trying to get people to buy copies of Studio Tan and Sleep Dirt since Warner Bros. was ripping Frank off? No serious music fan would encourage others to help a greedy record label rip off musicians. Especially talented ones like Hed PE.

By the way, you still haven't explained why Hed PE are not legitimate musicians. They've been in the game for years, created an original style all their own, and never changed up to meet up with what was popular with the masses. They're still playing the same gangsta punk they've been playing since they first started out - and they occasionally experiment with other styles, like thrash metal. How are they not legitimate musicians?

It's what we do, and we mean no harm. But he doesn't get that. He defends his musical tastes so vehemently that he'll drop the f-bomb with aplomb and call us every name in the book, as if it actually sinks into our moronic metalhead brains. It doesn't. Rap/Metal still sucks, and we still laugh at his anger.

Again, bullshit. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. If there's anything moronic about your posts, it's the idea that, for one thing, that my attitude is based off of anyone being a metal fan. That's completely untrue. I happen to like metal a lot. Your apparent elitism towards hip-hop does not give you the right to insult others or tell them how they should think. I don't know exactly what kind of hip hop or rap-rock/rap-metal/rapcore you've heard, but you don't have a clue. One of the main reasons that many bands dabbled in rap-metal, and that metal legends like Black Sabbath collaborated with hip hop artists is that there's not really a whole lot of difference, in terms of attitude and subject matter, between metal and rap. It's all based on where you come from. When you look at it from beyond, there doesn't seem to be too many differences, but when you look at it closely, it's all the same. You can't dismiss entire genres because of crap like 50 Cent and Hollywood Undead (who, by the way, do not sound anything like metal. If these emo chumps think that they're metal, they're full of shit). It's not like the kind of crap Ingrown Asshair listens to defines death metal, now does it?

Yet we are at ease. We are not steaming. We do not need time out to cool down.

And by the way, the contents of this post are in regards to "Rap/Metal" fusion only and not legitimate genres such as classical, jazz, rock, funk, etc. After all, we ARE talking about a band who's main ingredients are Metal and Rap.

This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. You clearly do need to cool down, if you're making posts like this. I am always calm and cool. But there's something that has to be said about getting aggravated every time someone defends a musical idea and then claiming to laugh at them. That's idiotic, and it makes YOU, not me, look foolish.

The idea that any fusion cannot work is just plain wrong. That idea has been thrown around since the early days of rock and roll. But without any fusions, we would not have rock, first off, and we would not have metal, secondly. The jazzheads tried to convince people that fusing jazz with rock would not work because they were afraid that it would kill jazz. They were wrong, and metalheads are wrong in their thinking that rap-metal would kill off metal. Coming from a background that likes hip hop is the problem, also.

Try some Kool Keith or Esham, THEN say that rap or rock-fused rap sucks.

And again, one more time for the world: ESHAM INVENTED ACID RAP. Boomin' Words from Hell was released in 1989. Dr. Octagonecologyst was released in the late '90s. Keith had previously been a member of the group Ultramagnetic MCs, but they did not produce acid rap. No one produced acid rap until Esham came along. ESHAM INVENTED ACID RAP. And, by the way, Kool Keith released an album on Esham's record label: Spankmaster. ESHAM INSPIRED KOOL KEITH, not the other way around. Esham did acid rap before Kool Keith. ICP did acid rap before Kool Keith. Kool Keith did not invent acid rap.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 06, 2008, 06:55:14 PM
This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 06:56:42 PM
This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

I didn't insult your taste in music, or tell you that you have to enjoy something. Just advising to appreciate ALL genres of music.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 06, 2008, 07:08:57 PM
This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

I didn't insult your taste in music, or tell you that you have to enjoy something. Just advising to appreciate ALL genres of music.

I agree with this statement. You indeed did not insult my taste in music, nor tell me what I should like, and I appreciate that. You simply took the "you obviously are beneath me, in that you don't know what you're talking about" road, and I don't appreciate that.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 07:10:04 PM
This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

I didn't insult your taste in music, or tell you that you have to enjoy something. Just advising to appreciate ALL genres of music.

I agree with this statement. You indeed did not insult my taste in music, nor tell me what I should like, and I appreciate that. You simply took the "you obviously are beneath me, in that you don't know what you're talking about" road, and I don't appreciate that.

I'm sorry if you took it that way. That wasn't actually my intent. I apologize for any unintentional offense.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 06, 2008, 07:21:19 PM
This just proves that there's no point in talking to you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who's elitist now?

I didn't insult your taste in music, or tell you that you have to enjoy something. Just advising to appreciate ALL genres of music.

I agree with this statement. You indeed did not insult my taste in music, nor tell me what I should like, and I appreciate that. You simply took the "you obviously are beneath me, in that you don't know what you're talking about" road, and I don't appreciate that.

I'm sorry if you took it that way. That wasn't actually my intent. I apologize for any unintentional offense.

I forgive you. Pardon my rudeness, if I implied any.

Whadda ya think, torgosPizza? Group hug?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: MrTorso on September 06, 2008, 09:03:02 PM
How about some Hollywood Undead videos??:

http://www.youtube.com/v/fF6HgpdaaCU

Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 06, 2008, 09:15:36 PM
How about some Hollywood Undead videos??

Please, no.

My God, that was one of the dumbest collages of cliches I've ever seen.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 06, 2008, 09:20:09 PM
Just another boy band. Only slightly more edgy.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 07, 2008, 02:23:18 AM
Do these twerps have ANY IDEA how stupid they look?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on September 07, 2008, 05:26:14 AM
Of course not, but it's slightly comforting to think that they privately view this whole thing as an act to rake in piles of emo cash. The idea that they're sincere hurts my soul.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 07, 2008, 07:19:01 AM
Of course not, but it's slightly comforting to think that they privately view this whole thing as an act to rake in piles of emo cash. The idea that they're sincere hurts my soul.

When has there ever been a "sincere" emo act? :D
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 07, 2008, 07:21:19 AM
Of course not, but it's slightly comforting to think that they privately view this whole thing as an act to rake in piles of emo cash. The idea that they're sincere hurts my soul.

I think the fact that your soul is hurting because of these guys is a direct result of their "emo" music.  ;)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 07, 2008, 07:31:16 AM
Of course not, but it's slightly comforting to think that they privately view this whole thing as an act to rake in piles of emo cash. The idea that they're sincere hurts my soul.

I think the fact that your soul is hurting because of these guys is a direct result of their "emo" music.  ;)

ONOES! Rob is emo!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on September 07, 2008, 09:29:07 AM
Don't pretend like you understand me. *tear*
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 07, 2008, 10:00:09 AM
LEAVE ROBTHEBARBARIAN ALONE!!!

(http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/images/chris-crocker.jpg)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: MrTorso on September 07, 2008, 04:55:21 PM
I am not sure how many copies we got in but we sold out of them. Even if we only had 1 copy that is 1 copy to much.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 07, 2008, 06:08:47 PM
It's obvious to me who needs the time out. Ingrown Asshair is just a metal maniac. I am too. We understand that our music is not enjoyed by the masses. We understand it's considered stupid and moronic by some. We understand why people aren't won over by "cookie monster" vocals. It is Isaac who doesn't understand. He is appalled that we might throw a barb in his direction regarding his insistence that rap/metal is a good fusion, because he is insecure. He thinks we are out to get him, when in fact we, as metalheads, do it just to piss him off and laugh when he gets upset.

It's what we do, and we mean no harm. But he doesn't get that. He defends his musical tastes so vehemently that he'll drop the f-bomb with aplomb and call us every name in the book, as if it actually sinks into our moronic metalhead brains. It doesn't. Rap/Metal still sucks, and we still laugh at his anger.

Yet we are at ease. We are not steaming. We do not need time out to cool down.

And by the way, the contents of this post are in regards to "Rap/Metal" fusion only and not legitimate genres such as classical, jazz, rock, funk, etc. After all, we ARE talking about a band who's main ingredients are Metal and Rap.

No, and it's quite comical when people keep coming up with the same tired assumptions about metal. Same thing with rap. There are a LOT of derivative and just flat-out crappy bands in both genres.

I disagree about rap/metal not being legitimate... just the stuff that Isaac listens to. Generally, it's a bad idea (or at least poorly executed), but Faith No More were doing it years before Anthrax decided to try their hand at it. They also released their first album (which had elements of rap) before Aerosmith collaborated with Run DMC.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 07, 2008, 06:12:18 PM
LEAVE ROBTHEBARBARIAN ALONE!!!

(http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/images/chris-crocker.jpg)

I demand that you take this image of me off of the internet immediately, or I will pursue legal action against you! You have been warned!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: RoninFox on September 07, 2008, 06:53:48 PM
LEAVE ROBTHEBARBARIAN ALONE!!!

(http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/images/chris-crocker.jpg)

That chick really needs to wax her mustache.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 07, 2008, 07:12:21 PM
It's obvious to me who needs the time out. Ingrown Asshair is just a metal maniac. I am too. We understand that our music is not enjoyed by the masses. We understand it's considered stupid and moronic by some. We understand why people aren't won over by "cookie monster" vocals. It is Isaac who doesn't understand. He is appalled that we might throw a barb in his direction regarding his insistence that rap/metal is a good fusion, because he is insecure. He thinks we are out to get him, when in fact we, as metalheads, do it just to piss him off and laugh when he gets upset.

It's what we do, and we mean no harm. But he doesn't get that. He defends his musical tastes so vehemently that he'll drop the f-bomb with aplomb and call us every name in the book, as if it actually sinks into our moronic metalhead brains. It doesn't. Rap/Metal still sucks, and we still laugh at his anger.

Yet we are at ease. We are not steaming. We do not need time out to cool down.

And by the way, the contents of this post are in regards to "Rap/Metal" fusion only and not legitimate genres such as classical, jazz, rock, funk, etc. After all, we ARE talking about a band who's main ingredients are Metal and Rap.

No, and it's quite comical when people keep coming up with the same tired assumptions about metal. Same thing with rap. There are a LOT of derivative and just flat-out crappy bands in both genres.

I disagree about rap/metal not being legitimate... just the stuff that Isaac listens to.

I don't listen to a whole lot of rap-metal. And when I occasionally listen to something from that genre, it's usually from its innovators (I.E., Rage Against the Machine). ALL of the bands that I listen to are legitimate. You only consider music "legitimate" when it fits into your limited view of music. Legitimate does not mean "brutal". Legitimate means that the musicians are honest and actually do enjoy making music. I only listen to music by people who are genuine, and have genuine talent.

Generally, it's a bad idea (or at least poorly executed,

I agree that fusing hip hop with rock has not always been well done, but that doesn't make it a bad idea. The existence of those shitty mainstream bands doesn't take away from the fact that fusing hip hop with rock has been done well, particularly by Hed PE.

but Faith No More were doing it years before Anthrax decided to try their hand at it. They also released their first album (which had elements of rap) before Aerosmith collaborated with Run DMC.

And The Clash added hip hop into their musical styles way before Faith No More. Do you have a point, or are you just continuing to be a shithead?

Another reminder -- KOOL KEITH WAS INFLUENCED BY ESHAM! ESHAM INVENTED ACID RAP! And, for that matter, Esham had albums on the Billboard charts long before anyone knew who Kool Keith was. Your bashing of Esham shows that you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 07, 2008, 07:27:16 PM
LEAVE ROBTHEBARBARIAN ALONE!!!

(http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/images/chris-crocker.jpg)

I demand that you take this image of me off of the internet immediately, or I will pursue legal action against you! You have been warned!

In all seriousness, you DO have the same musical tastes as Chris Crocker. Just let it go. Try taking all those Britney Spears, Coldplay, Linkin Park and Hollywood Undead CDs you own and burning them in a bonfire. It will be therapeutic for you.

Then buy some albums by good bands. Have you heard anything from Esham or Hed PE? They're very good.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on September 08, 2008, 08:32:28 AM
Why do I get the urge to gouge my own eyes out after reading through arguments Isaac is involved in? Why is that Isaac? No one else has that effect on me. "Because I'm right" is not a viable answer, sorry.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 08, 2008, 09:18:40 AM
Why do I get the urge to gouge my own eyes out after reading through arguments Isaac is involved in? Why is that Isaac? No one else has that effect on me. "Because I'm right" is not a viable answer, sorry.

The problem here is with IA. I'm joking around with him. He seriously thinks that he's being picked on. I don't know why he gets so wound up about music like this, but this would not happen as often if he didn't insult people for liking music that he does not like -- especially good music, like Esham and Hed PE.

(Again, Esham invented acid rap and influenced Kool Keith, not the other way around.)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 08, 2008, 12:43:07 PM
For anyone who is interested, if you pre-ordered the Hollywood Undead CD from Mr Torso's fine place of work, you get a free autographed booklet.

I laughed when I saw that in the weekly new release email.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 08, 2008, 07:02:48 PM
Why do I get the urge to gouge my own eyes out after reading through arguments Isaac is involved in? Why is that Isaac? No one else has that effect on me. "Because I'm right" is not a viable answer, sorry.

The problem here is with IA. I'm joking around with him. He seriously thinks that he's being picked on. I don't know why he gets so wound up about music like this, but this would not happen as often if he didn't insult people for liking music that he does not like -- especially good music, like Esham and Hed PE.


Wait, what? You're telling ME that I think I'm being picked on? Since when did you speak for me (or anyone else for that matter)? I get wound up? That's laughable, but not so much as you considering Roots-era Sepultura to be death metal. Sorry, dude, but those days are long behind them. Their first EP and LP were death metal.. after that, they jumped on the thrash bandwagon and then jumped onto the groove bandwagon when it became popularized by Pantera. They're a trend-hopping band that happened to release some killer material early in their career. They should have called it a day after Chaos AD. Roots was an embarrassment no matter which way you look at it. It figures that you would champion that as their best release. Have you even heard Schizophrenia, Beneath the Remains or Arise?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 04:35:13 AM
Why do I get the urge to gouge my own eyes out after reading through arguments Isaac is involved in? Why is that Isaac? No one else has that effect on me. "Because I'm right" is not a viable answer, sorry.

The problem here is with IA. I'm joking around with him. He seriously thinks that he's being picked on. I don't know why he gets so wound up about music like this, but this would not happen as often if he didn't insult people for liking music that he does not like -- especially good music, like Esham and Hed PE.

Wait, what? You're telling ME that I think I'm being picked on? Since when did you speak for me (or anyone else for that matter)? I get wound up?

So, you basically just confirmed what I just said. ::)

That's laughable, but not so much as you considering Roots-era Sepultura to be death metal.

That's not what I said. What I said, was, in fact, that they were death metal at some point, but that you didn't like that album because it wasn't death metal. I really feel that I shouldn't have to explain these things to you, but you're a bit slow, so I guess it's hard for you to keep up.

Their first EP and LP were death metal.. after that, they jumped on the thrash bandwagon and then jumped onto the groove bandwagon when it became popularized by Pantera. They're a trend-hopping band that happened to release some killer material early in their career.

Are they trend-hoppers, or do they just like experimenting with different things? I'm pretty sure that Frank Zappa wasn't "trend-hopping" when he incorporated funk elements into Over-Nite Sensation (I.E., "I'm the Slime," which P-Funk sometimes cover in their live performances).

And, by the way, EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK DO THE BRAZILIAN TRIBAL MUSIC AND HARDCORE PUNK INFLUENCES ON THAT ALBUM HAVE TO DO WITH "TREND HOPPING"?

They should have called it a day after Chaos AD. Roots was an embarrassment no matter which way you look at it. It figures that you would champion that as their best release. Have you even heard Schizophrenia, Beneath the Remains or Arise?

It's not embarrassing to experiment with a wide range of different styles and advance your art form. You only think that because you're a twerp who thinks that Esham (who invented acid rap) was influenced by Kool Keith (who did not invent acid rap). Roots is not embarrassing. In fact, it's been widely praised as one of the best metal albums of all time. You're just too stupid to handle originality and creativity. If something doesn't sound EXACTLY THE SAME as everything else you enjoy, you won't hear it.

And, for the record, I never said it was their best release. What I said was that it was MY FAVORITE METAL ALBUM. But if you continue to act this stupid, I'll start saying that Roots was Sepultura's best release so you can stomp your feet and wail.

Speaking of Pantera, Dimebag Darrell, Rex Brown, and Vinnie Paul did an album with David Allan Coe called Rebel Meets Rebel. I doubt you've ever listened to that. You probably think that one is embarrassing because it's a cross between metal and country, huh? Good grief, your arguments just keep getting dumber and dumber.

Can someone give this brat his pacifier so he'll stop crying?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 09, 2008, 06:44:09 AM
In fact, it's been widely praised as one of the best metal albums of all time.

Not sure where you got that information from, but I'm pretty sure Roots doesn't place anywhere near the top of the best Metal albums chart. For the record, I liked what they did on Roots. The title track is great, Cut-Throat is an awesome song, and Ratamahatta is damn fun! And the cover is sweet.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 06:53:28 AM
In fact, it's been widely praised as one of the best metal albums of all time.

Not sure where you got that information from, but I'm pretty sure Roots doesn't place anywhere near the top of the best Metal albums chart.

Well, I didn't say that it's considered the best, just that it was considered "one of the best". According to Wikipedia, The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal ranks it as the 11th best metal album of all time, although I've never actually read that book to confirm this claim.

For the record, I liked what they did on Roots. The title track is great, Cut-Throat is an awesome song, and Ratamahatta is damn fun! And the cover is sweet.

Agreed.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 09, 2008, 07:02:00 AM
In fact, it's been widely praised as one of the best metal albums of all time.

Not sure where you got that information from, but I'm pretty sure Roots doesn't place anywhere near the top of the best Metal albums chart.

Well, I didn't say that it's considered the best, just that it was considered "one of the best". According to Wikipedia, The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal ranks it as the 11th best metal album of all time, although I've never actually read that book to confirm this claim.

Hmm, I would think Chaos A.D. would have ranked higher than Roots. If nothing else than how well known that record is. And maybe it did, but I can't find any text from the book online. Still, with all the releases out there taken into account, I just can't see how Roots could rank so high.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 09, 2008, 05:21:01 PM
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/msanto/Celebrities/Beatles.jpg)
THIS passes for a band?! look at their shaggy hair and sideburns!!!

They're no Glenn Miller that's for sure.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on September 09, 2008, 05:52:21 PM
If John would've cleaned up that face and straightened his hair he could have passed as a young Glenn Miller.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/jewishcarpenter/268f0092.jpg)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 09, 2008, 06:01:09 PM
Less into hookers though.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 09, 2008, 06:40:13 PM
That's not what I said. What I said, was, in fact, that they were death metal at some point, but that you didn't like that album because it wasn't death metal. I really feel that I shouldn't have to explain these things to you, but you're a bit slow, so I guess it's hard for you to keep up.

Are they trend-hoppers, or do they just like experimenting with different things? I'm pretty sure that Frank Zappa wasn't "trend-hopping" when he incorporated funk elements into Over-Nite Sensation (I.E., "I'm the Slime," which P-Funk sometimes cover in their live performances).

And, by the way, EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK DO THE BRAZILIAN TRIBAL MUSIC AND HARDCORE PUNK INFLUENCES ON THAT ALBUM HAVE TO DO WITH "TREND HOPPING"?

It's not embarrassing to experiment with a wide range of different styles and advance your art form. You only think that because you're a twerp who thinks that Esham (who invented acid rap) was influenced by Kool Keith (who did not invent acid rap). Roots is not embarrassing. In fact, it's been widely praised as one of the best metal albums of all time. You're just too stupid to handle originality and creativity. If something doesn't sound EXACTLY THE SAME as everything else you enjoy, you won't hear it.

And, for the record, I never said it was their best release. What I said was that it was MY FAVORITE METAL ALBUM. But if you continue to act this stupid, I'll start saying that Roots was Sepultura's best release so you can stomp your feet and wail.

Speaking of Pantera, Dimebag Darrell, Rex Brown, and Vinnie Paul did an album with David Allan Coe called Rebel Meets Rebel. I doubt you've ever listened to that. You probably think that one is embarrassing because it's a cross between metal and country, huh? Good grief, your arguments just keep getting dumber and dumber.

No, numbnuts, I don't even care for the death metal Sepultura released. If you'd paid attention and had actually HEARD the Sepultura albums I listed, you'd notice that I favor their THRASH albums. You do know what thrash is, right? Considering that you think their nu-metal album was death metal, I'm gonna have to say you don't.

They are trend-hoppers. Do I have to draw a fucking picture for you? They started out as death metal,  jumped on the thrash scene when it was popular, moved over to groove and then onto nu-metal. Incorporating more tribal elements (which they did with Chaos AD) had nothing to do with their career based upon trend-hopping.

Roots is praised as one of the best metal albums of all time by people who don't even listen to metal. The same people will also tell you that every single Metallica album belongs in the top 100 and that Master of Puppets is TEH GRAYTIST METOOL ALBUN OFF AWL TYME!!!! I'm pretty certain Roots is about the 11th WORST metal album of all time. I can list off a bunch of metal albums better than Roots.. and you know what? I think I WILL:

Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Atheist - Piece of Time
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Cynic - Focus
Death - Leprosy
Death - Spiritual Healing
Death - Human
Death - Individual Thought Patterns
Death - Symbolic
Death - The Sound of Perseverance
Sepultura - Schizophrenic
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Sepultura - Arise
Megadeth - Peace Sells, But Who's Buying?
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Psycroptic - The Scepter of the Ancients
Psycroptic - Symbols of Failure
Ripping Corpse - Dreaming With the Dead
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Morbid Angel - Blessed Are the Sick
Morbid Angel - Covenant
Morbid Angel - Gateways to Annihilation
Nile - In The Catacombs of Nephren-Ka
Nile - Black Seeds of Vengeance
Nile - In Their Darkened Shrines
Cryptopsy - Blasphemy Made Flesh
Cryptopsy - None So Vile

I could keep going like this all fucking night, too.

Oh yeah, and Rebel Meets Rebel sucks, but looks genius in comparison to the joke known as Damageplan.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 06:52:40 PM
That's not what I said. What I said, was, in fact, that they were death metal at some point, but that you didn't like that album because it wasn't death metal. I really feel that I shouldn't have to explain these things to you, but you're a bit slow, so I guess it's hard for you to keep up.

Are they trend-hoppers, or do they just like experimenting with different things? I'm pretty sure that Frank Zappa wasn't "trend-hopping" when he incorporated funk elements into Over-Nite Sensation (I.E., "I'm the Slime," which P-Funk sometimes cover in their live performances).

And, by the way, EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK DO THE BRAZILIAN TRIBAL MUSIC AND HARDCORE PUNK INFLUENCES ON THAT ALBUM HAVE TO DO WITH "TREND HOPPING"?

It's not embarrassing to experiment with a wide range of different styles and advance your art form. You only think that because you're a twerp who thinks that Esham (who invented acid rap) was influenced by Kool Keith (who did not invent acid rap). Roots is not embarrassing. In fact, it's been widely praised as one of the best metal albums of all time. You're just too stupid to handle originality and creativity. If something doesn't sound EXACTLY THE SAME as everything else you enjoy, you won't hear it.

And, for the record, I never said it was their best release. What I said was that it was MY FAVORITE METAL ALBUM. But if you continue to act this stupid, I'll start saying that Roots was Sepultura's best release so you can stomp your feet and wail.

Speaking of Pantera, Dimebag Darrell, Rex Brown, and Vinnie Paul did an album with David Allan Coe called Rebel Meets Rebel. I doubt you've ever listened to that. You probably think that one is embarrassing because it's a cross between metal and country, huh? Good grief, your arguments just keep getting dumber and dumber.

No, numbnuts, I don't even care for the death metal Sepultura released. If you'd paid attention and had actually HEARD the Sepultura albums I listed, you'd notice that I favor their THRASH albums. You do know what thrash is, right? Considering that you think their nu-metal album was death metal, I'm gonna have to say you don't.

ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER. DO YOU SPEAK IT? I never said that. EVER.

Secondly, "Nu metal"? Seriously? You actually think that's an ACTUAL genre? That vague, bizarre label that has been tagged onto everything from Faith No More to Rob Zombie? Okay, I'll play along.

So, you think Roots is nu metal, huh? (Even though it was released in 1996, before anyone started using that term.) Right! I'm sure (read this as Moon Unit Zappa on "Valley Girl") that LIMP BIZKIT (yuck.) frequently mixed groove metal, hardcore punk, world metal, and traditional Brazilian music on their albums!

You are a shithead.

Roots was partially influenced by Deftones and Korn. These bands have absolutely nothing to do with the crappy, mainstream imitations that followed them (I.E., Staind, Linkin Park).

They are trend-hoppers. Do I have to draw a fucking picture for you? They started out as death metal,  jumped on the thrash scene when it was popular, moved over to groove and then onto nu-metal. Incorporating more tribal elements (which they did with Chaos AD) had nothing to do with their career based upon trend-hopping.

I'll explain this to you slowly: YOU. ARE. A. FUNCTIONING. MORON.

Roots is praised as one of the best metal albums of all time by people who don't even listen to metal. The same people will also tell you that every single Metallica album belongs in the top 100 and that Master of Puppets is TEH GRAYTIST METOOL ALBUN OFF AWL TYME!!!!

You're genuinely insane, aren't you?

I'm pretty certain Roots is about the 11th WORST metal album of all time.

I'm absolutely certain that you are the real-life equivalent of Simple Jack.

(Note: I am not making fun of people who are actually mentally impaired, just as Ben Stiller was not making fun of people who are mentally impaired. The fake movie was a comment on over-the-top portrayals of people with disabilities, and Ingrown Asshair is the real-life equivalent of one of these cartoon characters.)

I can list off a bunch of metal albums better than Roots.. and you know what? I think I WILL:

Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Atheist - Piece of Time
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Cynic - Focus
Death - Leprosy
Death - Spiritual Healing
Death - Human
Death - Individual Thought Patterns
Death - Symbolic
Death - The Sound of Perseverance
Sepultura - Schizophrenic
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Sepultura - Arise
Megadeth - Peace Sells, But Who's Buying?
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Psycroptic - The Scepter of the Ancients
Psycroptic - Symbols of Failure
Ripping Corpse - Dreaming With the Dead
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Morbid Angel - Blessed Are the Sick
Morbid Angel - Covenant
Morbid Angel - Gateways to Annihilation
Nile - In The Catacombs of Nephren-Ka
Nile - Black Seeds of Vengeance
Nile - In Their Darkened Shrines
Cryptopsy - Blasphemy Made Flesh
Cryptopsy - None So Vile

I could keep going like this all fucking night, too.

Which of these bands will you be *masturbating* to this evening as you contemplate what a failure at life you are?

Oh yeah, and Rebel Meets Rebel sucks, but looks genius in comparison to the joke known as Damageplan.

Ah. I see. You *ARE* a functioning moron.

And, by the way, DAC is a country legend, Pantera is one of the most respected metal bands of recent years, and you, on the other hand, are widely considered to be the village idiot.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 09, 2008, 06:54:57 PM
*yawn*
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 07:00:01 PM
*yawn*

No response? I've repeatedly proven that you know absolutely nothing about music, and you persist in proving myself correct by stomping up and down screaming "YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT METAL RAAAAGGGHHHHHHLL RAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR".

Go on, try to tell me that Esham was influenced by Kool Keith again. Make yourself look like an idiot some more.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 09, 2008, 07:01:45 PM
*yawn*
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: RoninFox on September 09, 2008, 07:03:29 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_x5x2ToLsOKk/SB9jijknG0I/AAAAAAAAACU/UqhzGvijsb0/s1600/nobody-cares.jpg)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 07:04:05 PM
*yawn*

I'll sell you a copy of KKKill the Fetus if you burn all of your Hollywood Undead CDs.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 09, 2008, 07:06:29 PM
I fail to see how either of you are proving anything other than how poor your conversational skills are.



...besides possibly a staggering amount of blind arrogance/ignorance.

Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 07:08:32 PM
I fail to see how either of you are proving anything other than how poor your conversational skills are.

...besides possibly a staggering amount of blind arrogance/ignorance.

I can have a normal discussion with kodiakthejuggler and many others because most people on here do not think they have some kind of bizarre point to make (and most do not think that it's a good idea to scream at me when they are wrong). Ingrown Asshair thinks that I am picking on him when I am merely poking fun at the staggering amount of arrogant, ignorant shit he posts.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 09, 2008, 07:11:04 PM
Still, with all the releases out there taken into account, I just can't see how Roots could rank so high.

It's highly likely that the person who made the list has no clue about metal. This isn't so much about taste as there's just no way in hell that album belongs in the top 100. Hell, that album wouldn't even make the top 100 of kids who shop at Hot Topic and they're notorious for supporting the crap of the crop.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 09, 2008, 07:14:47 PM
Hollywood Undead is making me hate this thread.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 09, 2008, 07:15:36 PM
Hollywood Undead is making me hate this thread.

Hell, Hollywood Undead are the only good thing about this thread... and they suck!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 07:19:10 PM
Still, with all the releases out there taken into account, I just can't see how Roots could rank so high.

It's highly likely that the person who made the list has no clue about metal.

It's absolutely likely that you think you have a "g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-good b-b-b-b-b-b-brain".

This isn't so much about taste

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

as there's just no way in hell that album belongs in the top 100. Hell, that album wouldn't even make the top 100 of kids who shop at Hot Topic and they're notorious for supporting the crap of the crop.

Well, there's a simple explanation for that: YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!

There's a difference between having an opinion and being...whatever the hell you are. Are you even human? All I know is that you are the dumbest individual on this forum.

Hollywood Undead is making me hate this thread.

Hell, Hollywood Undead are the only good thing about this thread... and they suck!

This thread was good, until you decided to come on here and start bitching about how I know absolutely nothing about metal, even though the topic at hand has nothing to do with metal (even though Wikipedia claims metal for HU), and showing how much of a close-minded dickweed you are by bashing every band that does something creative instead of doing the exact same shit as every two-bit death metal band you listen to while beating off to the Hollywood Undead album cover and imagining how much you'd like to be married to the lead singer of Coldplay.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 09, 2008, 07:19:55 PM
Ingrown does seem to pull the 'Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong' thing less and you both seem to blame the other or say you're just joking if anyone calls you on your shit.

Again unless I missed something neither of you have proved anything and neither of you are (on the whole) wrong, you just have different opinions which you're unable to accept or express like an adult.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 07:23:33 PM
Ingrown does seem to pull the 'Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong' thing less and you both seem to blame the other or say you're just joking if anyone calls you on your shit.

Again unless I missed something neither of you have proved anything and neither of you are (on the whole) wrong, you just have different opinions which you're unable to accept or express like an adult.

Ingrown's opinions aren't wrong. He's just an asshole. I'm not saying that my opinions are right; no one's opinion is right or wrong - I've never made any such statement. But when it comes to basic facts, he has gotten several things wrong, and I have corrected him on it. Nu metal is not a genre, Kool Keith did NOT influence Esham...these are just the ridiculous things that comes from the bizarre mind of Ingrown A-hair.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 09, 2008, 07:27:43 PM
I'd say nu-metal is a genre personally but I don't care enough to get into it, I could also point out many posts where you've stated your opinion as fact but again I don't think it would actually help at all.


To sidetrack back to the topic, what the band dresses or looks like seems pretty irrelivant to me.  Clearly with this band it's part of their image/appeal/marketing strategy/problem (choose as you see fit) but it doesn't phase me.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 07:35:34 PM
I'd say nu-metal is a genre personally but I don't care enough to get into it, I could also point out many posts where you've stated your opinion as fact but again I don't think it would actually help at all.

Well, I'm well aware of the fact that I may occasionally write my opinions in a tone that may come across as stating opinion as fact, but that's not what I've ever tried to do, at all.

As far as nu metal goes, I didn't know what it was for a long time, and then when I found System of a Down tagged as nu metal, I realized that it was complete horseshit, that no such genre existed. System of a Down has more to do with things like Primus or Frank Zappa than Limp Bizkit. One reviewer even compared SOAD's music to a cross between Zappa and Slayer. System, Slayer, Black Sabbath are all metal bands that I enjoy. I never gave a shit about Papa Roach (who are not metal - at all; another reason why "nu metal" doesn't exist - most of the so-called "nu" bands are HARD ROCK, not metal).
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 09, 2008, 07:46:06 PM
It's just easy to group certain bands into a given genre. Hell, they basically made up the "nu-metal" genre for the bands who sounded kinda like metal, but incorporated scratches and hip-hop elements into their music. I know there are plenty of bands who were doing that kind of stuff many years ago, but back then, it was either Metal or NOTHING!!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on September 09, 2008, 08:27:09 PM
I open this thread and fucking shit man. You guys pooped all over the place.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 08:35:06 PM
It's just easy to group certain bands into a given genre. Hell, they basically made up the "nu-metal" genre for the bands who sounded kinda like metal, but incorporated scratches and hip-hop elements into their music. I know there are plenty of bands who were doing that kind of stuff many years ago, but back then, it was either Metal or NOTHING!!

I've seen that phrase applied to everything. Basically, "nu metal" became the hardcore metalhead's go-to phrase for anything they hate. Like Metallica's St. Anger. And they'll object that System of a Down, etc. are not nu metal because they're so good. "SOAD are too good to be nu metal. Limp Bizkit is nu metal! System aren't nu metal!"

Emo isn't a genre of music, either. It's a bad trend. "Emo" bands are bad pop bands who pretend to be depressed. I don't understand why "emotional" is a genre of music. Say what? That basically covers everything - happy songs, sad songs, angry songs....emotional music? What? Hollywood Undead are not emotional. Legitimate bands have actual emotions!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Jonathan_Short_Torso on September 09, 2008, 08:50:00 PM
Man their real faces must be ugly.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 09, 2008, 08:50:35 PM
Man their real faces must be ugly.

No. Their masks probably convey more emotion than they ever could.

The key word her being PROBABLY, as I could give two shits about who they really are.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: mrbasehart on September 09, 2008, 08:57:40 PM
I have a question:

Who gives a shit what genre or subgenre a band is supposed to be? I (along with a couple of others here) am a huge movie nerd, but I couldn't care less whether something was in some aribtrary category because someone else decided it.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 09:04:26 PM
I don't give a shit. The only reason ideas like nu metal, etc. are being discussed is because Ingrown screamed at me for considering "Sepultura's nu-metal album" my favorite metal album.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 09, 2008, 09:16:26 PM
Huh - they removed "emo" from Hollywood Undead's Wiki entry.

Okay, so when do these guys hit the unemployment line? I'm pretty sure their album bombed.

Man their real faces must be ugly.

No. Their masks probably convey more emotion than they ever could.

The key word her being PROBABLY, as I could give two shits about who they really are.

Maybe these guys are members of another crappy band that changed up their style when the albums flopped, and took on pseudonyms to hide this fact? :D ;) For all I know, HU and Smite the Righteous could be the same band! ;D
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 09, 2008, 09:21:33 PM
I'd say some 'emo' bands are expressing genuine emotion, it's not like poetry-style pop or rock is new.  'Emo' music seems to get dismissed out of hand by a lot of people the same way there seems to be this inexplicable anger towards the culture in general, alot of it from the same kind of people who call goths and punks 'emo' I'd say.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 10, 2008, 04:20:03 AM
Why the weird masks and repeated reminders in their press releases that Iowa is also home to a number of serial killers?

Yeah, they live in a really rough neighborhood in Des Moines...  ::) 
Some co-workers drove me by their place while I was out there.  They live around the corner from an art museum in a really nice house.  And they're just normal looking guys who look like they work in an office when they're not in costume.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 10, 2008, 05:29:40 AM
All you have to do is listen to their music. That's all the proof you need that they're not all that hard core. Heck, any band that uses "scratching" can't be that heavy...
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 10, 2008, 09:40:39 AM
All you have to do is listen to their music. That's all the proof you need that they're not all that hard core. Heck, any band that uses "scratching" can't be that heavy...

I disagree. I think that a band could be 'heavy' and incorporate scratching into its music.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: jewishcarpenter on September 10, 2008, 11:24:07 AM
All you have to do is listen to their music. That's all the proof you need that they're not all that hard core. Heck, any band that uses "scratching" can't be that heavy...

I disagree. I think that a band could be 'heavy' and incorporate scratching into its music.
Maybe if they had a distortion & an overdrive pedal with a badass flanger, an old Ibanez analog delay and maybe a Korg Kaoss pad, But only with those things. How do you feel about electric triangles? Yay or nay?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 10, 2008, 11:44:20 AM
How do you feel about electric triangles? Yay or nay?

Only if I get to play the lead.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Tyrant on September 10, 2008, 12:38:24 PM
Yikes. I've never had less faith in mainstream music than I do now.  :P  It'll be hard not to punch the first person I meet who actually thinks this band is good in the face, and I already have a hard time not punching all the people I know who like Celine Dion (which, sadly, is still a lot).

Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 10, 2008, 04:41:40 PM
Really?  This is what pushed you over the edge?  You kept the faith through Jack Johnson, the Macarena, Nickleback, Phil Collins and god knows what else and some kids in masks is the last straw.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Tyrant on September 10, 2008, 04:54:09 PM
Losing faith is a gradual process, what can I say?

Tell me that video doesn't want to make you punch someone. Seriously. Or at least gently push them.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ninjacat11 on September 10, 2008, 05:30:40 PM
Wait, so they're My Chemical Romance/Eminem? Kill it. With fire.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 10, 2008, 05:58:09 PM
Losing faith is a gradual process, what can I say?

Tell me that video doesn't want to make you punch someone. Seriously. Or at least gently push them.

The only way I can imagine ever hearing or seeing it is if I'm actively seeking it and I doubt I will be so whatever.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 11, 2008, 06:30:16 PM
I'd say nu-metal is a genre personally but I don't care enough to get into it, I could also point out many posts where you've stated your opinion as fact but again I don't think it would actually help at all.


To sidetrack back to the topic, what the band dresses or looks like seems pretty irrelivant to me.  Clearly with this band it's part of their image/appeal/marketing strategy/problem (choose as you see fit) but it doesn't phase me.

Nu metal is a sub-genre that describes the trend in which bands incorporated hip hop influence into their hard rock formula. The bands themselves are certainly not metal, but that doesn't automatically disqualify them from being good.. although I'm sure Isaac will come running in here screaming at any moment about how I'm not supposed to listen to anything but death metal.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 12, 2008, 07:42:42 AM
I'd say nu-metal is a genre personally but I don't care enough to get into it, I could also point out many posts where you've stated your opinion as fact but again I don't think it would actually help at all.


To sidetrack back to the topic, what the band dresses or looks like seems pretty irrelivant to me.  Clearly with this band it's part of their image/appeal/marketing strategy/problem (choose as you see fit) but it doesn't phase me.

Nu metal is a sub-genre that describes the trend in which bands incorporated hip hop influence into their hard rock formula. The bands themselves are certainly not metal, but that doesn't automatically disqualify them from being good.. although I'm sure Isaac will come running in here screaming at any moment about how I'm not supposed to listen to anything but death metal.

Why does EVERYTHING have to be an argument with you? You're always at the forefront of things, insisting that you are right whenever someone makes the slightest comment about how someone is wrong because you are right!

Take the 'what's that noise' thread. Why did my comment about Them or Us being underrated deserve a comment? Why did you think that you had to respond to that?!? "No, it's not underrated, it's just not as good as Sheik Yerbouti." What is your problem? I can see you arguing about the color of the sky:

Some Guy: The sky is blue.
Ingrown Asshair: No, it's not. It's turquoise!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 12, 2008, 07:45:41 AM
Face it, Isaac, you wouldn't continually respond to Ingrown in this manner if you didn't love to argue. And Ingrown wouldn't continually argue with you if you just stopped.

Face it. You complete eachother!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 12, 2008, 07:47:25 AM
Face it, Isaac, you wouldn't continually respond to Ingrown in this manner if you didn't love to argue. And Ingrown wouldn't continually argue with you if you just stopped.

Face it. You complete eachother!

I think the fact that I am not arguing in that post, but pointing out when someone else is arguing, blows your theory out of the water.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 12, 2008, 07:50:03 AM
Face it, Isaac, you wouldn't continually respond to Ingrown in this manner if you didn't love to argue. And Ingrown wouldn't continually argue with you if you just stopped.

Face it. You complete eachother!

I think the fact that I am not arguing in that post, but pointing out when someone else is arguing, blows your theory out of the water.

And... you can't possibly stand to be on the losing side of an argument, so now you're setting yourself up to be the victor by debunking my theory that you just love to argue. Quid Pro Quo, Doctor.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 12, 2008, 07:51:35 AM
Face it, Isaac, you wouldn't continually respond to Ingrown in this manner if you didn't love to argue. And Ingrown wouldn't continually argue with you if you just stopped.

Face it. You complete eachother!

I think the fact that I am not arguing in that post, but pointing out when someone else is arguing, blows your theory out of the water.

And... you can't possibly stand to be on the losing side of an argument, so now you're setting yourself up to be the victor by debunking my theory that you just love to argue. Quid Pro Quo, Doctor.

Why are you arguing about whether or not this is an argument?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 12, 2008, 07:54:39 AM
Face it, Isaac, you wouldn't continually respond to Ingrown in this manner if you didn't love to argue. And Ingrown wouldn't continually argue with you if you just stopped.

Face it. You complete eachother!

I think the fact that I am not arguing in that post, but pointing out when someone else is arguing, blows your theory out of the water.

And... you can't possibly stand to be on the losing side of an argument, so now you're setting yourself up to be the victor by debunking my theory that you just love to argue. Quid Pro Quo, Doctor.

Why are you arguing about whether or not this is an argument?

Your circular reasoning will not confound me, Doctor. You can't spin your way out of this one!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 12, 2008, 06:12:00 PM
Some Guy: The sky is blue.
Ingrown Asshair: No, it's not. It's turquoise!

The sky ISN'T blue, it just appears that way... and if you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd realize that.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: RoninFox on September 12, 2008, 06:23:36 PM
Face it, Isaac, you wouldn't continually respond to Ingrown in this manner if you didn't love to argue. And Ingrown wouldn't continually argue with you if you just stopped.

Face it. You complete eachother!

I think the fact that I am not arguing in that post, but pointing out when someone else is arguing, blows your theory out of the water.

And... you can't possibly stand to be on the losing side of an argument, so now you're setting yourself up to be the victor by debunking my theory that you just love to argue. Quid Pro Quo, Doctor.

Why are you arguing about whether or not this is an argument?

Your circular reasoning will not confound me, Doctor. You can't spin your way out of this one!

This isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

(http://neilreddin.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/python_argument.jpg)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: mrbasehart on September 12, 2008, 07:31:16 PM
Face it, Isaac, you wouldn't continually respond to Ingrown in this manner if you didn't love to argue. And Ingrown wouldn't continually argue with you if you just stopped.

Face it. You complete eachother!

I think the fact that I am not arguing in that post, but pointing out when someone else is arguing, blows your theory out of the water.

And... you can't possibly stand to be on the losing side of an argument, so now you're setting yourself up to be the victor by debunking my theory that you just love to argue. Quid Pro Quo, Doctor.

Why are you arguing about whether or not this is an argument?

Your circular reasoning will not confound me, Doctor. You can't spin your way out of this one!

This isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

(http://neilreddin.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/python_argument.jpg)

No it isn't!

(I love that sketch)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: gbeenie on September 13, 2008, 09:50:03 AM
>sigh<

Isaac/Ingrown Asshair
Isaac/ScottH


I'm beginning to think Isaac is setting himself up to be "lucky Pierre."
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: gbeenie on September 13, 2008, 09:51:16 AM
Face it, Isaac, you wouldn't continually respond to Ingrown in this manner if you didn't love to argue. And Ingrown wouldn't continually argue with you if you just stopped.

Face it. You complete eachother!

I think the fact that I am not arguing in that post, but pointing out when someone else is arguing, blows your theory out of the water.

And... you can't possibly stand to be on the losing side of an argument, so now you're setting yourself up to be the victor by debunking my theory that you just love to argue. Quid Pro Quo, Doctor.

Why are you arguing about whether or not this is an argument?

Your circular reasoning will not confound me, Doctor. You can't spin your way out of this one!

This isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!

(http://neilreddin.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/python_argument.jpg)

No it isn't!

(I love that sketch)

Look, if I argue with you, I must take a contrary position.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: mrbasehart on September 13, 2008, 09:51:50 AM
No you don't!

I might be arguing in my spare time...
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ninjacat11 on September 13, 2008, 12:55:38 PM


Secondly, "Nu metal"? Seriously? You actually think that's an ACTUAL genre? That vague, bizarre label that has been tagged onto everything from Faith No More to Rob Zombie? Okay, I'll play along.


Faith No More was called a nu-metal band? This is news to me. And I am a huge Mike Patton fanboy.

Back on topic, I looked up Hollywood Undead on iTunes, hoping that it wasn't as bad as this topic makes it sound.

It's probably even worse.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 13, 2008, 01:33:44 PM
Some Guy: The sky is blue.
Ingrown Asshair: No, it's not. It's turquoise!

The sky ISN'T blue, it just appears that way...

Why are you so extreme? STOP ARGUING.

and if you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd realize that.

Goddamn, you're stupid. Here's an idea: find a brick and talk to it. There! You've met your intellectual match! Have a fun conversation!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 15, 2008, 05:59:57 PM
Isaac, are you this argumentative in real life? Does your mother come into your room and ask you to clean up that pile of dirty dishes on the floor, only to have you reason that you shouldn't have to clean them up because you're not a maid?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 16, 2008, 06:07:09 PM
Isaac, are you this argumentative in real life? Does your mother come into your room and ask you to clean up that pile of dirty dishes on the floor, only to have you reason that you shouldn't have to clean them up because you're not a maid?

Lay off the crack pipe, mon. Try a little sensimilla.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 16, 2008, 08:54:36 PM
...anyway.




So the album bombed?  I'm suprised since it seemed on par with a lot of other stuff I hear on commercial 'youth radio', I'd say how trend-driven the US music scene is would be more to blame than anything.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 18, 2008, 02:28:16 PM
I bring you Hollywood Undead:

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o255/MrTorso/l_920ab3e55a1a81487be2a2a6e962a431.jpg)

From their wiki:

Quote
Hollywood Undead is a band whose music has been described as a mixture of hip hop, emo and metal.[1]

The band originated in 2005 from a song Deuce and J-Dog posted on MySpace to positive views and which led them to form the group Hollywood Undead with their friends Johnny 3 Tears, Charlie Scene, Funny Man and Da Kurlzz.[1] In their first nine weeks on MySpace they had almost a million plays and by 2006 they were said to be leading MySpace's top unsigned artists list with over 8 million plays.[2][3] In 2005 they became the first band to sign up with MySpace Records.[4] By 2008 the band had over 40 million plays and over 400,000 friends on MySpace.[5]

The band perform in individual masks in order to maintain an air of mystery.[1] This originated from their MySpace page which they filled with pictures of themselves in hockey masks.[2] They made their live debut in August 2008 at the Virgin Mobile Festival after winning 285,000 votes, over half the total, in a Book the Band contest against four other bands.[6] Their popular song Undead is featured on the Madden 2009 Soundtrack and was released as an official single on August 19, 2008, making it the second single from Swan Songs.

Though the group first signed a record contract in 2005, they spent nearly three years working on their debut album.[7] Hollywood Undead have signed a contract with A&M/Octone Records and will release their debut album Swan Songs on 02 September 2008.[6]


UGH.  We have been mocking this album at work since we got a promo last week. Especially the guy who calls himself "Johnny 3 Tears". What is really sad is that it is going to sell like hotcakes. We even had some guy offer us $100 to sell him our promo copy so he could get it early....

Bet you anything that this is a "manufactured" band and the management came up with the idea of the masks so that if anybody thinks they're the star, they can be replaced by just another skinny assed wannabe they can get cheap.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 18, 2008, 07:38:53 PM
I bring you Hollywood Undead:

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o255/MrTorso/l_920ab3e55a1a81487be2a2a6e962a431.jpg)

From their wiki:

Quote
Hollywood Undead is a band whose music has been described as a mixture of hip hop, emo and metal.[1]

The band originated in 2005 from a song Deuce and J-Dog posted on MySpace to positive views and which led them to form the group Hollywood Undead with their friends Johnny 3 Tears, Charlie Scene, Funny Man and Da Kurlzz.[1] In their first nine weeks on MySpace they had almost a million plays and by 2006 they were said to be leading MySpace's top unsigned artists list with over 8 million plays.[2][3] In 2005 they became the first band to sign up with MySpace Records.[4] By 2008 the band had over 40 million plays and over 400,000 friends on MySpace.[5]

The band perform in individual masks in order to maintain an air of mystery.[1] This originated from their MySpace page which they filled with pictures of themselves in hockey masks.[2] They made their live debut in August 2008 at the Virgin Mobile Festival after winning 285,000 votes, over half the total, in a Book the Band contest against four other bands.[6] Their popular song Undead is featured on the Madden 2009 Soundtrack and was released as an official single on August 19, 2008, making it the second single from Swan Songs.

Though the group first signed a record contract in 2005, they spent nearly three years working on their debut album.[7] Hollywood Undead have signed a contract with A&M/Octone Records and will release their debut album Swan Songs on 02 September 2008.[6]


UGH.  We have been mocking this album at work since we got a promo last week. Especially the guy who calls himself "Johnny 3 Tears". What is really sad is that it is going to sell like hotcakes. We even had some guy offer us $100 to sell him our promo copy so he could get it early....

Bet you anything that this is a "manufactured" band and the management came up with the idea of the masks so that if anybody thinks they're the star, they can be replaced by just another skinny assed wannabe they can get cheap.

No way.. how are you going to replace the hammer and sickle hand tattoo guy? He's the Justin Timberlake of the group!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Tripe on September 19, 2008, 05:15:00 AM
Ah yes, hand tattoos, almost as well advised as facial ones.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 19, 2008, 06:25:34 AM
I bring you Hollywood Undead:

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o255/MrTorso/l_920ab3e55a1a81487be2a2a6e962a431.jpg)

From their wiki:

Quote
Hollywood Undead is a band whose music has been described as a mixture of hip hop, emo and metal.[1]

The band originated in 2005 from a song Deuce and J-Dog posted on MySpace to positive views and which led them to form the group Hollywood Undead with their friends Johnny 3 Tears, Charlie Scene, Funny Man and Da Kurlzz.[1] In their first nine weeks on MySpace they had almost a million plays and by 2006 they were said to be leading MySpace's top unsigned artists list with over 8 million plays.[2][3] In 2005 they became the first band to sign up with MySpace Records.[4] By 2008 the band had over 40 million plays and over 400,000 friends on MySpace.[5]

The band perform in individual masks in order to maintain an air of mystery.[1] This originated from their MySpace page which they filled with pictures of themselves in hockey masks.[2] They made their live debut in August 2008 at the Virgin Mobile Festival after winning 285,000 votes, over half the total, in a Book the Band contest against four other bands.[6] Their popular song Undead is featured on the Madden 2009 Soundtrack and was released as an official single on August 19, 2008, making it the second single from Swan Songs.

Though the group first signed a record contract in 2005, they spent nearly three years working on their debut album.[7] Hollywood Undead have signed a contract with A&M/Octone Records and will release their debut album Swan Songs on 02 September 2008.[6]


UGH.  We have been mocking this album at work since we got a promo last week. Especially the guy who calls himself "Johnny 3 Tears". What is really sad is that it is going to sell like hotcakes. We even had some guy offer us $100 to sell him our promo copy so he could get it early....

Bet you anything that this is a "manufactured" band and the management came up with the idea of the masks so that if anybody thinks they're the star, they can be replaced by just another skinny assed wannabe they can get cheap.

No way.. how are you going to replace the hammer and sickle hand tattoo guy? He's the Justin Timberlake of the group!

Yeah, and the dude crouching is the "Marky Mark" of the group.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 19, 2008, 07:50:50 AM
Are you two supposed to be insulting them?  Since you've picked the two that've gone on to be really good I can't decide.

Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on September 19, 2008, 11:03:12 AM
Are you two supposed to be insulting them?  Since you've picked the two that've gone on to be really good I can't decide.

Well, why don't you go up to Mark Wahlberg and say "Hey Marky Mark!! What's Up, Dog!! Sing us a song!" and see what he does to you.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 19, 2008, 06:16:57 PM
Are you two supposed to be insulting them?  Since you've picked the two that've gone on to be really good I can't decide.



Really good? Get the fuck outta here, you pansy-ass pop music fan. Those dick wipes didn't write their own music and I have doubts they even wrote the lyrics. They're the product of a corporation, just like these dickless wonder emo assholes.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 20, 2008, 06:36:22 PM
...uh huh, your many issues aside.  That makes little or no difference to their post-boy band success.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 21, 2008, 01:53:41 PM
Bet you anything that this is a "manufactured" band and the management came up with the idea of the masks so that if anybody thinks they're the star, they can be replaced by just another skinny assed wannabe they can get cheap.

No way.. how are you going to replace the hammer and sickle hand tattoo guy? He's the Justin Timberlake of the group!

Yeah, and the dude crouching is the "Marky Mark" of the group.

Are you two supposed to be insulting them?  Since you've picked the two that've gone on to be really good I can't decide.

Really good? Get the fuck outta here, you pansy-ass pop music fan. Those dick wipes didn't write their own music and I have doubts they even wrote the lyrics. They're the product of a corporation, just like these dickless wonder emo assholes.

So, you've never seen Black Snake Moan or The Departed?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 22, 2008, 12:05:13 PM
No way.. how are you going to replace the hammer and sickle hand tattoo guy? He's the Justin Timberlake of the group!

Are we sure that's real and not just henna or something?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 25, 2008, 02:42:04 PM
...uh huh, your many issues aside.  That makes little or no difference to their post-boy band success.

You said they went on to be "really good". Success is not equal to talent. If it were, Britney Spears and Madonna would be exceptionally talented artists.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 25, 2008, 04:01:33 PM
I'd say Whalberg definately qualifies as really good.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: mrbasehart on September 25, 2008, 05:53:46 PM
...uh huh, your many issues aside.  That makes little or no difference to their post-boy band success.

You said they went on to be "really good". Success is not equal to talent. If it were, Britney Spears and Madonna would be exceptionally talented artists.

That argument makes no sense to me.  Success, though relative, can be qualified in terms of sales and money made and so forth, while talent is purely subjective.  Though really, isn't success down to lots of people thinking that someone's talented?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on September 25, 2008, 06:15:07 PM
I can't believe this thread is still going.

Perhaps the more appropriate subject for it would be "Let's all argue! (and occasionally mention a crappy band.)"
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on September 25, 2008, 06:16:28 PM
That would work for the whole sub-board
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: MrTorso on September 26, 2008, 12:04:25 AM
Really?  This is what pushed you over the edge?  You kept the faith through Jack Johnson, the Macarena, .......

Heh! The Macarena!   When I ran some record stores in Miami we had a promo of the Los Del Rio album with the original version of the macarena. I actually played the song a lot because the delivery of the lyrics always cracked me up.  On any given friday or saturday night I could get pretty much every cuban in my store dancing to that song and it wasn't the goofy fad dance. Then the "Bayside Boys" did a re-mix of it (Bayside by the way, was a crappy shopping center in downtown Miami) and it went national. The goofiest thing I ever saw was a bunch of uber-white mid-westerners having a macarena contest at the Mall of America when I was in Minneapolis for the MST3K convention!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 26, 2008, 01:43:25 PM
...uh huh, your many issues aside.  That makes little or no difference to their post-boy band success.

You said they went on to be "really good". Success is not equal to talent. If it were, Britney Spears and Madonna would be exceptionally talented artists.

Again: Scott was referring to Timberlake and Whalberg's acting endeavors. Timberlake gave an excellent performance in Black Snake Moan, while Whalberg delivered an excellent performance in Martin Scorsese's The Departed. Timberlake and Whalberg were both successful outside of their music careers because they were able to cross over to acting and deliver good performances. (I didn't even recognize Timberlake in Southland Tales--another great movie). And regardless of whatever you think of Madonna, she does have talent, or else Quentin Tarantino, who knows a lot more about music and film than you could ever dream about, wouldn't have devoted an entire monologue to an analyzation of her lyrics in the opening sequence of Reservoir Dogs and later got her cast in Four Rooms. You are not one to put down another's taste considering your views on Joel Schumacher's Batman movies.

I would much rather watch the campy Schumacher versions of Batman.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 26, 2008, 05:28:53 PM
...uh huh, your many issues aside.  That makes little or no difference to their post-boy band success.

You said they went on to be "really good". Success is not equal to talent. If it were, Britney Spears and Madonna would be exceptionally talented artists.

That argument makes no sense to me.  Success, though relative, can be qualified in terms of sales and money made and so forth, while talent is purely subjective.  Though really, isn't success down to lots of people thinking that someone's talented?

Lots of people buying someone's CD does not make them talented, nor does it mean that the 14 year olds buying the music think they're talented. Due to peer pressure, it's difficult for people to go against the grain. It's called marketing, which corporations tend to be really good at. Hell, they've even got us all convinced that there's a real difference between the Democraps and the Republishams.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 26, 2008, 05:35:44 PM
...uh huh, your many issues aside.  That makes little or no difference to their post-boy band success.

You said they went on to be "really good". Success is not equal to talent. If it were, Britney Spears and Madonna would be exceptionally talented artists.

Again: Scott was referring to Timberlake and Whalberg's acting endeavors. Timberlake gave an excellent performance in Black Snake Moan, while Whalberg delivered an excellent performance in Martin Scorsese's The Departed. Timberlake and Whalberg were both successful outside of their music careers because they were able to cross over to acting and deliver good performances. (I didn't even recognize Timberlake in Southland Tales--another great movie). And regardless of whatever you think of Madonna, she does have talent, or else Quentin Tarantino, who knows a lot more about music and film than you could ever dream about, wouldn't have devoted an entire monologue to an analyzation of her lyrics in the opening sequence of Reservoir Dogs and later got her cast in Four Rooms. You are not one to put down another's taste considering your views on Joel Schumacher's Batman movies.

I would much rather watch the campy Schumacher versions of Batman.

This is about MUSIC, not their acting. But if they're such great actors, maybe they should just stick to that instead of polluting the musical gene pool with their watered-down pop music.

And fuck that overrated hack Tarantino. The motherfucker doesn't even know who he is.

As far as my preference on the Batman films, I like unintentional comedies. Otherwise, I'm not much of a fan of movies outside of those such as This Is Spinal Tap, Best In Show, A Mighty Wind... in other words, anything that Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer or Fred Willard are involved with.

But lets get back to the subject of MUSIC, since this is the MUSIC board, Isaac and talk about your love for the unintentionally hilarious ICP. You fail at life if you actually think those guys have the talent to do anything other than serve burgers and fries.. and I really doubt they have the capacity to do THAT. I hope Squiggy 2 Dumb and Varicose J end up killing themselves and you follow suit. Lets clean the Earth up a bit, shall we?
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 26, 2008, 05:48:23 PM
...uh huh, your many issues aside.  That makes little or no difference to their post-boy band success.

You said they went on to be "really good". Success is not equal to talent. If it were, Britney Spears and Madonna would be exceptionally talented artists.

Again: Scott was referring to Timberlake and Whalberg's acting endeavors. Timberlake gave an excellent performance in Black Snake Moan, while Whalberg delivered an excellent performance in Martin Scorsese's The Departed. Timberlake and Whalberg were both successful outside of their music careers because they were able to cross over to acting and deliver good performances. (I didn't even recognize Timberlake in Southland Tales--another great movie). And regardless of whatever you think of Madonna, she does have talent, or else Quentin Tarantino, who knows a lot more about music and film than you could ever dream about, wouldn't have devoted an entire monologue to an analyzation of her lyrics in the opening sequence of Reservoir Dogs and later got her cast in Four Rooms. You are not one to put down another's taste considering your views on Joel Schumacher's Batman movies.

I would much rather watch the campy Schumacher versions of Batman.

This is about MUSIC, not their acting. But if they're such great actors, maybe they should just stick to that instead of polluting the musical gene pool with their watered-down pop music.

And fuck that overrated hack Tarantino. The motherfucker doesn't even know who he is.

As far as my preference on the Batman films, I like unintentional comedies. Otherwise, I'm not much of a fan of movies outside of those such as This Is Spinal Tap, Best In Show, A Mighty Wind... in other words, anything that Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer or Fred Willard are involved with.

You know, all I get out of your posts is "fuck fuck fuck fuck fucking fucker motherfucker fuck you fuck". Might want to tone your posts down before talking about unintentional hilarity.

But lets get back to the subject of MUSIC, since this is the MUSIC board, Isaac and talk about your love for the unintentionally hilarious ICP. You fail at life if you actually think those guys have the talent to do anything other than serve burgers and fries.. and I really doubt they have the capacity to do THAT. I hope Squiggy 2 Dumb and Varicose J end up killing themselves and you follow suit. Lets clean the Earth up a bit, shall we?

The fact that you consider Insane Clown Posse to be unintentionally hilarious says a lot about your intelligence level. The comedic aspects of their work is clearly intentional. They're not trying to do The Day the Clown Cried. They're smartasses, slackers, jokers, etc. They know well enough not to deliver the kinds of unintentionally hilarious retorts that idiots like yourself frequently deliver to the rest of the board while trying to argue about the color of the sky. If we're going to talk about "cleaning up the Earth" through suicide, let's start with you, because we could really use a few less argumentative morons who are unaware of the fact that their IQ is lower than their shoelace size. And, for the record, they are talented. Just ask Chuck D (http://www.avclub.com/articles/chuck-d,13718/). You are not to argue with Chuck D because you are a moron and Chuck D is a living legend in hip hop.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Wheaty Petestraw on September 26, 2008, 09:53:55 PM
You know, all I get out of your posts is "fuck fuck fuck fuck fucking fucker motherfucker fuck you fuck". Might want to tone your posts down before talking about unintentional hilarity.

Actually, you might have taken notice that it was satire. Of course, you're so retarded you probably think satire belongs on zacar. Have you ever paid any fucking attention to the fucking way your motherfucking hero Quentin fucking Tarantino speaks, motherfucker? So perhaps this one-sided love affair you have with a man who doesn't know where he comes from has caused you only to pick out the profanities in my posts. Either that, or your questionable taste in a group that chooses to paint themselves up and NOT sound like Immortal. At least they have the ability to create music which overshadows their goofy image.

The fact that you consider Insane Clown Posse to be unintentionally hilarious says a lot about your intelligence level. The comedic aspects of their work is clearly intentional. They're not trying to do The Day the Clown Cried. They're smartasses, slackers, jokers, etc.

Such wisdom! Considering a goofy group to be unintentionally hilarious because they chose their image is surely the greatest indicator of intelligence next to equating sales figures with the level of talent. I am absolutely amazed at how you come to such conclusions. I'm convinced that you simply come up with arguments and then work your way backwards in order to fill in the blanks. In fact, I'll bet that if we read your posts backwards, there will be a hidden message that says you're down with God and that's the message you've been preaching all along, trying to persuade us heathens to live a better life through the love of Jesus Christ.

They know well enough not to deliver the kinds of unintentionally hilarious retorts that idiots like yourself frequently deliver to the rest of the board while trying to argue about the color of the sky.

That's rich, coming from you... oh, and would you care to explain "Slim Anus", their retort to Eminem?

The color of the sky has already been explained to you. I'm sorry if you're not bright enough to understand that it's all an illusion. If only we could see the world through your eyes, Isaac... why, we'd probably see everyone wearing clown makeup BUT Inane Clod Pussies.

If we're going to talk about "cleaning up the Earth" through suicide, let's start with you, because we could really use a few less argumentive morons who are unaware of the fact that their IQ is lower than their shoelace size.

[size=8]IRONY ALERT!!![/size]
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 27, 2008, 11:32:41 AM
You know, all I get out of your posts is "fuck fuck fuck fuck fucking fucker motherfucker fuck you fuck". Might want to tone your posts down before talking about unintentional hilarity.

Actually, you might have taken notice that it was satire. Of course, you're so retarded you probably think satire belongs on zacar.

Ignoring the complete non sequitur ("You probably think satire belongs on Zacar"), I'm sure that you believe that calling everyone who doesn't agree with your views on...well, anything, idiots, retards, etc. every other sentence will enhance your reputation and make you look better. It doesn't. It makes you look even stupider. See, you are kind of viewed as the village idiot around here. Everyone makes fun of you. I, at least, come off as being genuine, because my username is my actual name, not an association with the inside of an anus.

Have you ever paid any fucking attention to the fucking way your motherfucking hero Quentin fucking Tarantino speaks, motherfucker? So perhaps this one-sided love affair you have with a man who doesn't know where he comes from has caused you only to pick out the profanities in my posts.

Tarantino does not curse every other sentence, as you have in your posts. A reminder: Mad magazine is not a newspaper. You believe that Tarantino fucking curses a fucking lot because you ignore every fucking thing someone fucking else fucking says except for the fucking parts with the fucking curses, motherfucker.

Either that, or your questionable taste in a group that chooses to paint themselves up and NOT sound like Immortal. At least they have the ability to create music which overshadows their goofy image.

Again, you miss the point. They chose a goofy image because of the humor involved in their music. You don't realize this because you think that Quentin Tarantino curses every other motherfucking sentence all of the motherfucking time.

The fact that you consider Insane Clown Posse to be unintentionally hilarious says a lot about your intelligence level. The comedic aspects of their work is clearly intentional. They're not trying to do The Day the Clown Cried. They're smartasses, slackers, jokers, etc.

Such wisdom! Considering a goofy group to be unintentionally hilarious because they chose their image is surely the greatest indicator of intelligence next to equating sales figures with the level of talent. I am absolutely amazed at how you come to such conclusions. I'm convinced that you simply come up with arguments and then work your way backwards in order to fill in the blanks. In fact, I'll bet that if we read your posts backwards, there will be a hidden message that says you're down with God and that's the message you've been preaching all along, trying to persuade us heathens to live a better life through the love of Jesus Christ.

I say what I want to say. The fact that you continuously miss the points I make means nothing other than that you are little more than a dumb little twerp who thinks that he has a point. My posts, at least, say something when read forwards. Your posts say nothing, backwards or forwards. And I'm sorry that you feel the need to make fun of others for having different philosophical views than you do. I used to be like that, too. When I was in complete denial. You don't appear to be so lucky. I think you'll wind up in denial for the rest of your life.

They know well enough not to deliver the kinds of unintentionally hilarious retorts that idiots like yourself frequently deliver to the rest of the board while trying to argue about the color of the sky.

That's rich, coming from you... oh, and would you care to explain "Slim Anus", their retort to Eminem?

Certainly. Eminem is an obnoxious asshole who got rich from ripping off all of Detroit hip hop in addition to New York's Cage--who was actually institutionalized, and whose music and lyrics actually did come from something he experienced, unlike the very, very fake Marshall Mathers, who would eventually get into feuds with everyone inside and outside the music industry, including "Weird Al" Yankovic and Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog. He tried to exploit ICP by putting up posters claiming that they would be appearing at a release party for his first major release, without asking them first, and when they refused to appear, he attacked them in radio interviews. That doesn't sound like an anus to you? Wait, what am I thinking? You are as much of an anus as Eminem is! Where was my head at?

(EDIT -- to be fair, Chuck D has acknowledged Eminem as being an important rapper. Thus, I do not intend any disrespect to the five fans he still has. ;))

The color of the sky has already been explained to you. I'm sorry if you're not bright enough to understand that it's all an illusion.

And I'm sorry that you're not bright enough to realize that I was not actually referring to the sky as being blue, but bringing up an imaginary confrontation in which you confront a person who is more intelligent than you and try to argue about the color of the sky, which you are doing right now.

If only we could see the world through your eyes, Isaac... why, we'd probably see everyone wearing clown makeup BUT Inane Clod Pussies.

You think you are on a roll there, don't you? Unfortunately, the only person who knows what you are talking about is yourself. Because you the only being who is under the impression that anyone other than you cares about what I think about an underground rap group, or that this group defines anything about who I am beyond the fact that the majority of what I enjoy is classic rock and blues, experimental music, funk, soul, reggae, old school hip hop and underground hip hop, and that you can find about a dozen artists that are generally well-liked. I enjoy ICP because I find their music to be pretty damn creative, and I get what they are talking about and come from. The fact that you do not find the music of ICP to be interesting means nothing, considering that people who are more important than you are like or appreciate the group, and that they maintain a large group of fans and are able to make a lot of money while under the mainstream radar. But who cares about that, considering that Ingrown Asshair is the all-knowing God of musical knowledge, even though he's the kind of moron who would try to start an argument about what color the FUCKING SKY is.

If we're going to talk about "cleaning up the Earth" through suicide, let's start with you, because we could really use a few less argumentative morons who are unaware of the fact that their IQ is lower than their shoelace size.

[size=8]IRONY ALERT!!![/size]

Wow. That certainly solidifies your status as the most intelligent being on the forum with the best knowledge of musical history! ::) Remind me to buy you a gun for Yom Kippur, so while you try to figure out how to use it, you accidentally blow your own fucking head off, motherfucker. (I figured that you might ignore everything I say unless it had a few motherfucking curse fucking words, so I fucking figured that I might fucking put a few of those fuckers in, fucker.)

By the way, you're still forgetting one thing....ESHAM INFLUENCED KOOL KEITH! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! ESHAM CREATED ACID RAP!

And you STILL haven't explained why Hed PE are not legitimate musicians.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Petey Wheatstraw on September 27, 2008, 11:39:00 AM
...uh huh, your many issues aside.  That makes little or no difference to their post-boy band success.

You said they went on to be "really good". Success is not equal to talent. If it were, Britney Spears and Madonna would be exceptionally talented artists.

That argument makes no sense to me.  Success, though relative, can be qualified in terms of sales and money made and so forth, while talent is purely subjective.  Though really, isn't success down to lots of people thinking that someone's talented?

Lots of people buying someone's CD does not make them talented, nor does it mean that the 14 year olds buying the music think they're talented. Due to peer pressure, it's difficult for people to go against the grain. It's called marketing, which corporations tend to be really good at. Hell, they've even got us all convinced that there's a real difference between the Democraps and the Republishams.

No, actually, there is. The Democrats blow, and the Republicans suck! (Special thanks to Lewis Black.)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: MrTorso on October 19, 2008, 04:17:20 PM
That was a lot of words to pass to get here... Anyway... Here is a funny article on Something Awful about these dorks:  http://www.somethingawful.com/d/garbage-day/hollywood-undead.php

Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: ScottotD on October 19, 2008, 04:28:32 PM
I love impartial reviews.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: bratpop on October 27, 2008, 05:47:22 AM
I have a better name for this band: Gwarillaz.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on October 27, 2008, 03:41:59 PM
I have a better name for this band: Gwarillaz.

God, if only that were their real name...

Someone would tell Gwar, and they'd show up and kick the living shit out of them!! Then Gwar would shower them with slime and puke and we'd all celebrate!!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on October 12, 2009, 10:04:38 AM
Is it too soon to start camping outside the record store for their new album?  It's less than a month away!   :gouge:
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: Thrifty on October 12, 2009, 01:24:57 PM
This is the first I've seen of this thread due to K1's necropost.  I love the flame war on the first few pages.  It reads like a Larry Groznic column, but with music.
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on October 12, 2009, 01:42:32 PM
That's the best part of the thread!   :D  (Didn't mind the necropost since I got to reread some of the craziness for kicks.)
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: MrTorso on October 12, 2009, 02:48:23 PM
We even had some guy offer us $100 to sell him our promo copy so he could get it early....

Aw come on!  Stop mocking me!  I'm a HUGE fan and thought I'd be able to get the hookup from a fellow board member!   :D



Please tell me you sold it to him and split the money with everyone.

Can you imagine the shame he'd feel after bragging to his friends that he got it early and actually listened to it?




Ha ha! We were doing some cleaning at our store yesterday and I just put that same promo copy in the trash compacter!
Title: Re: This really passes for a "band"??
Post by: k1 on October 12, 2009, 03:08:04 PM
We even had some guy offer us $100 to sell him our promo copy so he could get it early....

Aw come on!  Stop mocking me!  I'm a HUGE fan and thought I'd be able to get the hookup from a fellow board member!   :D



Please tell me you sold it to him and split the money with everyone.

Can you imagine the shame he'd feel after bragging to his friends that he got it early and actually listened to it?




Ha ha! We were doing some cleaning at our store yesterday and I just put that same promo copy in the trash compacter!

(http://www.ratsnest.com/pictures/avatars/Pmote.OhTheHugeManatee.250.jpg)