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Title: Thoughts
Post by: torgosPizza on December 01, 2006, 03:32:12 PM
What did you think of this one? Did Marlon Brando really out-crazy most actual crazy people? Discuss here!
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: 6079SmithW on December 01, 2006, 03:54:15 PM
Oh, man, I'm excited. My DVD just showed up in the mail five minutes ago.

edit: Holy crap, David Thewlis is the guy from Naked! I knew I recognized that name.

This movie is just a celestial convergence of talented people making crap. And also Fairuza Balk.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: StellarJoe on December 01, 2006, 04:12:37 PM
Whew!  That was a doozy of a film.  Never seen it before, but yeesh.  Got to lie down after that one.

The RiffTrax, of course, was hilarious as always.  Props to Mike and Kevin sitting down through this one.   ;D
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: David on December 01, 2006, 05:53:43 PM
I'm so confused! So many confounding scenes!
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I think my brain blew a fuse (same with Mike and Kevin it seems).
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: 6079SmithW on December 01, 2006, 06:25:42 PM
Huh. I actually kind of enjoyed this. I mean, it's certainly by no means an entirely good movie, but I think I could watch it without the riffing  without wanting to kill myself (which makes it unlike, say, The Grudge or xXx.) I thought the performances were pretty entertaining, in a ridiculous, over-the-top, Pacino in Devil's Advocate kind of way. And it occasionally managed suspense or atmosphere without resorting to just making everything quiet for fifteen minutes.

Don't get me wrong, the animal costumes were goofy, the end was exceedingly protracted, the story didn't have much internal logic, and Thewlis wound up looking completely lifeless next to the utterly loopy Kilmer and Brando, but I'd say this was better than 5th Element, and thus the best of the bad movies done thus far (meaning everything but X-Men, Lord of the Rings, and the Matrix.)
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: FBX on December 01, 2006, 08:59:23 PM
I heard the killing off brando had something to do outside events rather than the script.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Minnesota on December 01, 2006, 09:35:07 PM
Loved the Riffs!! This one does not disapoint  8)
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: FBX on December 01, 2006, 10:05:32 PM
I had some real sync issues with this one. Perhaps the movie I rented? Seemed like the trax kept falling behind.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Qrusher14242 on December 02, 2006, 02:09:08 AM
My re-author worked fine for this one and its great so far. I noticed Mike threw in a Robot Monster quote about the 'HU-Man's LOL that was great.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Rude on December 02, 2006, 02:22:46 AM

From the IMDB:

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Marlon Brando wore a small radio receiver to aid him remembering his lines. Co-star David Thewlis claimed "He'd be in the middle of a scene and suddenly he'd be picking up police messages and Marlon would repeat, 'There's a robbery at Woolworths'."

ACTING!

-Rude
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Msampo on December 02, 2006, 06:38:59 AM
Great job!

Fave riffs:
Java, the source of all applets
If Club Med was designed by Pol Pot.
To hump like the mighty mink
Sir! Some of us are Devo!
Oh, like The Gap!
Nice! John Cage!
William Burroughs handled a pistol better than that!
...one of those weird Unitarian services...
"o/` ...little bit softer now... o/`"
"now I'm getting notes of woodchuck colon..."
"Shoot the mutt!!!"
"...with a boatload o' pet taxis."

Other observations:
An obligatory furries reference
Mike calls back "Robot Monster" with "to live like the hu-man"
Mike calls back "Bride of the Monster" with a 'rice-a-pipple speech' reference

Joke I didn't get:
What does "WILSON!!!!!" mean?

Sampo
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: MrTorso on December 02, 2006, 08:23:46 AM


Joke I didn't get:
What does "WILSON!!!!!" mean?

From the Tom Hanks flick Castaway.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: SmilinJackRoss on December 02, 2006, 03:55:14 PM
I think I laughed the hardest when he said that the porno title of this movie would be "The Thigh-Land of Dr. More Oh".
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: MrTorso on December 02, 2006, 04:15:27 PM
I think I laughed the hardest when he said that the porno title of this movie would be "The Thigh-Land of Dr. More Oh".

Made the same year was "The Island of Dr. Porneaux" which I found on IMDB.

Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: JoshWay on December 02, 2006, 05:46:39 PM
Very funny RiffTrax. Good pace, lots of laughs.

The movie was lousy, but not as skin-peelingly awful as I expected. Just useless, confusing, and thoroughly unpleasant.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 02, 2006, 06:08:56 PM
I think I laughed the hardest when he said that the porno title of this movie would be "The Thigh-Land of Dr. More Oh".

Made the same year was "The Island of Dr. Porneaux" which I found on IMDB.



Ewww. The cast lists only three guys. I repeat: ewww.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: 6079SmithW on December 02, 2006, 08:32:16 PM
I think I laughed the hardest when he said that the porno title of this movie would be "The Thigh-Land of Dr. More Oh".

Made the same year was "The Island of Dr. Porneaux" which I found on IMDB.



Ewww. The cast lists only three guys. I repeat: ewww.
Yeah, three isn't nearly enough.


Wait, scratch that. Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Pak-Man on December 03, 2006, 02:27:04 AM
The riffing was top notch in this one. The movie itself wasn't bad in the usual sense. It created its own brand of bad, somehow. Something about the acting and the pacing.. It's hard to place where the movie went wrong, but easy to see that it DID go wrong...
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Tony Farms AKA Puma Man on December 03, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
Oh, boy, this one was funny.

It started kinda slow for me, but once Val Kilmer started dressing like Moreau, I was in stitches.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: kodiakthejuggler on December 03, 2006, 05:51:04 PM
Overall I thought the riff was ok, but it did lose steam toward the end of the flick, with a few good ones scattered throughout until the finale.

I had never seen the movie before now, and I'm glad I did. What a piece of crap! They were certainly right when they said this film makes Planet of the Apes seem like the most brilliant thing ever created!


I did like Kevin's impression of the Apeman commenting on the Kawai piano!
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: PlayMSTie on December 03, 2006, 07:28:57 PM
I think the guys were right, sometimes it seemed like it was getting just a little bit silly, didn't it?  :D :D The guys seemed especially sharp this time! I was giggling pretty much all the way through, except a few times when I had to look away. It was a bit gory for my (cowardly) tastes.

It still astounds me sometimes to see what happened to Brando. I was never a big fan of the guy (for one thing, I'm still nursing a grudge that he got to play Sky in "Guys and Dolls" when he could barely sing a note, and they had to cut my favorite song because he couldn't handle it!), but I do have to acknowledge he's turned in some excellent performances. To go from "Waterfront" and "Streetcar" to this -- I'm flabbergasted.

But Kevin's Brando voice was spot-on. "In nomine Patrie and . . . whatever that other guy's name is." Hee!  ;D
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: FBX on December 04, 2006, 10:44:38 AM
I had some real sync issues with this one. Perhaps the movie I rented? Seemed like the trax kept falling behind.

and then I watch it a second time and the syncing is just fine... Very wierd. Certainly is a lot funnier when the timing lines up.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: BathTub on December 04, 2006, 10:55:08 AM
I had some real sync issues with this one. Perhaps the movie I rented? Seemed like the trax kept falling behind.

and then I watch it a second time and the syncing is just fine... Very wierd. Certainly is a lot funnier when the timing lines up.

What method do you use to play the rifftrax?
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: 6079SmithW on December 04, 2006, 10:58:17 AM
I think the guys were right, sometimes it seemed like it was getting just a little bit silly, didn't it?  :D :D The guys seemed especially sharp this time! I was giggling pretty much all the way through, except a few times when I had to look away. It was a bit gory for my (cowardly) tastes.

It still astounds me sometimes to see what happened to Brando. I was never a big fan of the guy (for one thing, I'm still nursing a grudge that he got to play Sky in "Guys and Dolls" when he could barely sing a note, and they had to cut my favorite song because he couldn't handle it!), but I do have to acknowledge he's turned in some excellent performances. To go from "Waterfront" and "Streetcar" to this -- I'm flabbergasted.

But Kevin's Brando voice was spot-on. "In nomine Patrie and . . . whatever that other guy's name is." Hee!  ;D

The thing about Brando is that, yeah, he was a fantastic actor when he felt like it, but he was also really, really weird. His personal problems had already kept him out of big movies for a long time before the Godfather, and then he pretty much blew that, too.

Of couse, gaining 300 pounds doesn't help, either.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Conor on December 04, 2006, 10:59:50 AM
I had some real sync issues with this one. Perhaps the movie I rented? Seemed like the trax kept falling behind.

Yeah, there really shouldn't be synch issues so to speak of, we've got this system of ours worked out pretty well.

When complaints of synch issues arise, we need to know the following info:  What version of the movie you're using, (in this case there is only one, if you're watching NTSC), what format (DVD or VHS, obviously we don't encourage VHS), How you're watching it (Ipod in hand or on your computer).  Then we can offer advice about what might have caused the problem.

The most frustrating thing is when someone writes in and complains of a synch issue, and only after three back and forths from email do they finally admit that they just downloaded a copy from somewhere that could have any number of reasons why it doesn't synch and which we obviously don't endorse as a method to get your RiffTrax to work the best. 

Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Don W on December 04, 2006, 12:32:51 PM
This was a good one, despite the movie being pretty crappy.

My two favorite riffs.

"He managed to animated a wad of used chewing gum." and

"Damn Radio Shack batteries."
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: FBX on December 04, 2006, 03:44:20 PM
I used my player both times :P

The first time, the movie stuttered about a few minutes in and kept desyncing at a constant rate.
The second time I used the readme file to skip straight to the opening boat scene, paused the mp3 after the line was said, waited for the movie to catch-up, then unpaused it. It stayed synced from there on out.

Its an old blockbuster rental.

Its just wierd that it would be inconsistant. I even restarted my player the first time around around mid-way and downloaded the PAL version to make sure there wasn't a mix-up. After I found that wasn't it, I went back and skipped to the middle of the movie, where the syncing problem persisted.

Yet like I said, this second time around the syncing was perfect!

And my favorite line is: "Give him the gun." "you've had it all day" "Give 'em the gun!" "its his turn now."

And the thing about this movie it is actually pretty good, minus the needless pyrotechnics and horrible CG, which for some reason managed to get its own special on E!
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Tyrant on December 04, 2006, 04:54:25 PM

   Everyone acted like they were on drugs in this movie, even during scenes when they weren't even using any.

   I nearly fell off the couch when that scene with Marlon wearing the metal hat came on. And is it just me, or does it seem like nearly every scene with Marlon in it involve eating of some kind? Either he's eating something, the people around him are eating, or he's being eaten?

    Not a bad movie, and not a bad rifftrax. I give it 7 out of 10.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Rude on December 06, 2006, 09:14:25 PM
Was the (real) main character genetically engineered too? What was that scar on his arm about?
I think my brain blew a fuse (same with Mike and Kevin it seems).

Can anyone explain this to me? The thought of watching that movie again sans Rifftrax just to figure out if there was a plot point here is too much. I have no clue why that guy was constantly on drugs or what that scar was all about, or whether he was purposefully brought to the island...

Ow.

My head hurts.

-Rude
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: 6079SmithW on December 07, 2006, 12:50:55 AM
Was the (real) main character genetically engineered too? What was that scar on his arm about?
I think my brain blew a fuse (same with Mike and Kevin it seems).

Can anyone explain this to me? The thought of watching that movie again sans Rifftrax just to figure out if there was a plot point here is too much. I have no clue why that guy was constantly on drugs or what that scar was all about, or whether he was purposefully brought to the island...

Ow.

My head hurts.

-Rude
Well, I [/i]think[/i] the idea was supposed to be that Moreau had a magical DNA serum he would give to animals, which made them less violent and more human- thus, nearly everyone on the island- and in theory, to humans, which would make them incapable of violence and cruelty altogether. The twist was that the perfecting drug had been given to the main character without telling him, presumably while he was unconscious at the beginning of the movie. Thus, whateverhisnamewas's inability to shoot the Hyena man, and Moreau's command to have Val give him the gun.

Wow, this movie made more sense than I thought.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: teedub on December 07, 2006, 08:39:41 AM
The movie got a little too painful in the last 15-20 mins, but all-in-all an A-1 commentary!  Definite improvement over the LOTR track, and I'm excited for Firewall!

Man that movie was exceptionally strange, though, and I saw it in the theatres for some reason. ???

Yikes!
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: SecretAgentSuperDragon on December 08, 2006, 02:55:06 PM
That was a weird one. I will always say that when Brando and Kilmer collide into the super"strange"nova.
It was a pretty good rifftrax. I still liked The Matrix, Point Break, Star Trek, and Star Wars better, but there were some good riffs in this one. I'll give it an 7/10
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: LadyKenobi on December 08, 2006, 07:53:33 PM
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Thus, whateverhisnamewas's inability to shoot the Hyena man, and Moreau's command to have Val give him the gun.

Ohhhhhhhhhh, I get it now.  I thought he was implanted with one of those Zap2It thingies.

I was never one to fully grasp plots.  I grew up watching The Sound of Music and was always puzzling as to why Julie Andrews didn't want those nice Nazis to help the Captain start his broken car.  She just seemed unduly bitchy about the whole thing.

This is why I write nonfiction.

Funny stuff, Mike and Kevin.  I always laughed along with them as they just started snickering whenever Brando came on-screen.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: 6079SmithW on December 09, 2006, 02:48:18 AM
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Thus, whateverhisnamewas's inability to shoot the Hyena man, and Moreau's command to have Val give him the gun.

Ohhhhhhhhhh, I get it now.  I thought he was implanted with one of those Zap2It thingies.

I was never one to fully grasp plots.  I grew up watching The Sound of Music and was always puzzling as to why Julie Andrews didn't want those nice Nazis to help the Captain start his broken car.  She just seemed unduly bitchy about the whole thing.

This is why I write nonfiction.

Funny stuff, Mike and Kevin.  I always laughed along with them as they just started snickering whenever Brando came on-screen.
It wasn't particularly clear, so I think it's less that anyone else here is bad at figuring it out than it is that I am just awesome.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: davo on December 09, 2006, 10:30:25 AM
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Thus, whateverhisnamewas's inability to shoot the Hyena man, and Moreau's command to have Val give him the gun.

Ohhhhhhhhhh, I get it now.  I thought he was implanted with one of those Zap2It thingies.

i thought they also implied that he might have been implanted..and that he might have been injected with some "turn me into a 1/2 animal" serum as well

..but who knows what they were thinking! 

this gets an A+ from me!  perfect movie for riffing.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Pak-Man on December 09, 2006, 03:34:46 PM
I've been doing a lot of reflecting on this and I can only draw one conclusion: Drugs. Lots and lots of drugs. Passed around between cast, crew, and director. No other explanation. :^)
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: BathTub on December 09, 2006, 08:12:28 PM
Oh I watched this film this morning, oh my god. The words, they can't describe, the horror, the horror.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Variety of Cells on December 12, 2006, 12:19:57 AM
Finally got around to watching this, using a special super secret, and I must say, I am quite happy.  A Devendra Banhart and a Tom Waits reference within a minute of each other, I'm in "hey, I got the obscure reference!" heaven. 
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: mrbasehart on December 25, 2006, 03:24:14 AM
I listened to this last night and thought it was great.  The film is entertaining enough in its oddity, but the riffs made it better.  I think my biggest laugh out loud moment was when Kevin parodied South Pacific.  Hilarious!
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: LadyKenobi on December 25, 2006, 07:55:14 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the Bali H'ai riff :)
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: mrbasehart on December 25, 2006, 11:39:50 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the Bali H'ai riff :)

I might've been the only man, however...  ;D
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: waffen on January 11, 2007, 09:03:23 AM
This one makes it into my top five. well worth the buy. Very funny

best riff: Mike: I think val's going for a gay/military/hawaiian look today...
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: macleod on January 24, 2007, 07:43:36 PM
I had not seen this movie coming into the Riff...I'll be honest, this movie was almost unbearable, riff or not. I mean, it didn't even have that "stupid movie" type entertainment value that you get with a Road House or The Fifth Element.

But the guys did fantastic nonetheless...
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: RandyMistie on January 28, 2007, 09:00:08 PM
Hey everyone, just getting back into the swing of things after a brutal holiday season and in the middle, (even now), of some serious crazy work.  Started DLing a bunch of the flicks I missed and watched Dr. Island today.

I never saw this version although I have seen every other version, the 40's Bela Lugosi and the 70's Micheal York version, and I read the original HG Wells story.  This version was actually most true to the IDEA of the original story, which was a typical "religion is bad" theme for HG Wells, a very adamant humanist/socialist kind of guy, (although his humanism didn't extend to anyone who wasn't caucasion but we won't go into that...).

Dr. Moreau was supposed to represent the insane god of creation that makes humans out of lower animals and then his creations destroy him, much like Mary Shelley taught us a few years before Wells' time, but there is more of a societal bent to this story.  Frankenstien dealt with one guy and one "Adam" creation whereas The Island represents all of our civilization.  Blah blah blah.

My problem with this riff is that the movie, for me, had some GENUINELY creepy and disturbing stuff going on that I won't be able to shake in my fever dreams, and Stan Wilson's animal make ups were pretty good, (the computer stuff was really crappy though).  But, what was cool was I now know where the South Park guys got the little creepy monkey side kick for their crazy Brando DNA scientist in... well... South Park.  The sad thing is, that kid was a real victim of a horrifying disease that makes young children age hundreds of times faster then they should.  Pregeria, I think it's called, where a 12 year old child looks and feels like an 80 year old person because thier glands age at an excellerated state.  Very sad.  At least he got some time in a movie.  (they don't live very long, as a rule).

All in all, I would say a very good effort.  And a good backup, considering I DL'd the Daredevil, (historic as all three for the first time!!!!), but my copy of DD was the directors cut so I have to wait to get the theatrical version before I can watch it.  Dr. M. was a good first alternate.  Can't wait to see Battlefield Earth!  (I spent an entire summer reading that piece of crap, even the book was pure 1113 pages of agony!).
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: macleod on January 30, 2007, 08:13:14 PM
Interesting, but a little too depressing for this board

...remember, Val Kilmer acting like senile Marlon Brando...
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Bus Taker on January 31, 2007, 10:25:02 PM
Very funny RiffTrax. Good pace, lots of laughs.

The movie was lousy, but not as skin-peelingly awful as I expected. Just useless, confusing, and thoroughly unpleasant.

Yeah, this movie was like A Clockwork Orange, only weird. :D That's a peek deeper in someone's bizarre imagination than I ever wanted to go.  What can I say about it?  The manimal habitat area reminded me of some areas of Southern New Jersey. HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR!

Loved the Animal House reference ("a little bit softer now....") and the Cats references.  Most of all, there were a reasonable number of fat jokes that did not get excessive.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: macleod on February 03, 2007, 06:43:05 AM
Yeah, weird about covers it. On that note, I'd have to warn the man-hyena thing that too much Marlon Brando is probably a leading cause of heart disease...LOT of cholesterol in that tub
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: eegah on February 26, 2007, 06:38:17 AM
We finally got around to watching this one and I have to say that we were disappointed. Of the ten or so Rifftrax that we've watched, this was our least favorite. It had moments, but overall it was pretty weak.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: eegah on January 10, 2008, 07:48:16 AM
We finally got around to watching this one and I have to say that we were disappointed. Of the ten or so Rifftrax that we've watched, this was our least favorite. It had moments, but overall it was pretty weak.

Just watched it again. It was better the second time (as was Daredevil). I cracked up at the "Look at the time!" line.
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: MST3Kgirl on October 28, 2008, 02:02:22 PM
this is such a strange movie. eek. ???
Title: Re: Thoughts
Post by: Bob on October 28, 2008, 07:48:47 PM
this is such a strange movie. eek. ???

There had to be a lot of drugs on the set......... or a lot of people with mental issues.