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Title: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 17, 2008, 06:18:00 PM
One thing I've always thought was kind of cool is how so many of my favorite artists are connected in some way.  It seems that all of them know each other or something.  As a matter of fact, just about all of them can be linked to George Harrison in some way.  Allow me to show you the extent of this great interlinkage that I like to call "the George Harrison connection" (artist names are in bold the first time they appear).


Now, if you have ever heard a note of music in your life, you know that George Harrison was a member of the Beatles (he's my favorite Beatle, BTW).  Obviously, this links him to John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and Ringo Starr.  By extension, it also links him to the Moody Blues via Denny Laine (who was in Wings).  Another member of the Moody Blues was Patrick Moraz, who was the keyboardist for Yes between 1974 and 1976.


In addition to being a Beatle, Harrison was also in the Traveling Wilburys, whose members included such luminaries as:

- Jeff Lynne (of The Move and Electric Light Orchestra fame)
- Bob Dylan (who can be linked to friend and collaborator Johnny Cash, in addition to The Band and the Grateful Dead)
- Tom Petty (who once recorded a duet with Stevie Nicks)
- Roy Orbison (I can't think of any connections off the top of my head)


George was also best friends with Eric Clapton, the Jesus Christ of Guitar-Playing (not to mention boning).  Among the many musicians have had the honor of being bandmates with God:

- The Yardbirds (including his eventual replacements Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page, who, as everyone knows, was in Led Zeppelin)
- Cream (including Jack Bruce, who played bass on the album Apostrophe for Frank Zappa, who was friends with Captain Beefheart and Alice Cooper, and whose son Dweezil played guitar for Weird Al Yankovic on the song "Genius in France")
- Derek and the Dominoes (including Dwayne Allman, who can be linked to Derek Trucks, Steve Miller and Zakk Wylde via the Allman Brothers Band)
- John Mayall's Bluesbreakers (in which he would be replaced by Peter Green, who would go on to be a founding member of Fleetwood Mac)
- Blind Faith (including Steve Winwood, who was a member of Traffic and the Spencer Davis Group).


Clapton has also befriended or collaborated with the following musicians:

- J.J. Cale was a huge influence on his solo career, and collaborated with Clapton on the album The Road to Escondido
- B.B. King played with him on the album Riding With the King.
- Pete Townshend helped orchestrate his 1973 comeback performance known as the Rainbow Concert.  This means that he can be linked to The Who.
- Robert Cray
- Chaka Khan (no, seriously - she collaborated on his 1989 album Journeyman)
- Phil Collins, who, unfortunately, had a heavy hand in influencing his sound during the '80s. On the plus side, this connects him to Genesis (and Peter Gabriel by extension).


I'm pretty sure there's more, but I think I've made my point.  And now I'd like to start a little game.  I call it "Six Degrees of George Harrison."  The object is to link an artist to George Harrison using six steps or fewer.  I'll be generous and let you use covers of another artist's song as a valid connection.

Let's start with something hard...how about ABBA?
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Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: mrbasehart on August 17, 2008, 08:21:36 PM
I'd also like to point out that George Harrison was one of the men behind Handmade Films, which did Life of Brian, The Long Good Friday, Time Bandits, and countless others.  He could probably be linked to half of Hollywood pretty easily, too.  :)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: mearnest on August 21, 2008, 04:08:22 AM
Orbison's connections could well be covered by the fact that he was part of the formative Sun Records years which frequently paired up artists in their roster.  This would establish a connection to Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Howlin' Wolf (who did a record with a couple of the Stones), and Johnny Cash.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 21, 2008, 06:28:21 AM
I'd also like to point out that George Harrison was one of the men behind Handmade Films, which did Life of Brian, The Long Good Friday, Time Bandits, and countless others.  He could probably be linked to half of Hollywood pretty easily, too.  :)

Oh yeah not fond of the Beetles, love Harrison though, not least because he brought us this:

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/TripeHoundRedux/Forum%20Furniture/DontMixDrinks.gif)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 21, 2008, 06:44:25 AM
Oh OK ABBA:

Well Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Anderssonfrom Abba wrote Chess which featured Murray Head
Murray Head was Judas in the original (and best) recording of Jesus Christ Superstar which featured Ian Gillan as Jesus
Ian Gillan was in Deep Purple with Richie Blackmore after Rod Evans left
Richie Blackmore's career really kicked off when he bought one of Eric Clapton's cast off Stratocasters*
Eric Clapton was pals (well except for the stealing of the missus part) with George Harrison

Ooh did it in five :)

*OK he bought it from a roadie that worked for Clapton so that might be the weakest link in the chain.

EDIT: Though i just realized I could do it in four.

Ian Gillan was in Deep Purple with Jon Lord after Rod Evans left
Jon Lord played on Harrison's 1982 album Gone Troppo
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: mrbasehart on August 21, 2008, 06:00:30 PM
I can even link my Dad with George Harrison.

George Harrison played in the Beatles, along with Ringo Starr
Ringo Starr once sat in for the drummer in my Dad's band in Butlins.  Yes, they were THAT desperate.

Done!  :)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 21, 2008, 07:29:59 PM
Your dad was a redcoat?
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: mrbasehart on August 21, 2008, 07:33:33 PM
No, he was a bass player.  :)

He was a in a band in the 60s.  It didn't get anywhere, but he and Ringo happened to cross whilst "The Delinquents" were performing there.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 21, 2008, 09:16:24 PM
Very interesting, mrbasehart.  Now, let's go with something REALLY difficult.  I challenge anyone here to find a way to link My Chemical Romance to George Harrison.  Besides "George Harrison was talented and My Chemical Romance is not."
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2008, 05:14:24 AM
Six degrees yes?

Ok *cracks knuckles*

1. My Chemical Romance was the opening band for Green Day on the American Idiot tour
2. Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day was in the backing band for Iggy Pop on his Skull Ring album
3. In 1977 Iggy Pop wrote and produced The Idiot and Lust for Life with David Bowie
4. David Bowie was good friends with Marc Bolan of T-Rex, whose influence can be seen in many of his albums from the period 1969 to 1973
5. In 1972 Bolan appareared in Ringo Starr’s documentary Born To Boogie
6. Ringo Starr was not the best drummer in the Beatles with George Harrison.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2008, 10:31:13 AM
Six degrees yes?

Ok *cracks knuckles*

1. My Chemical Romance was the opening band for Green Day on the American Idiot tour
2. Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day was in the backing band for Iggy Pop on his Skull Ring album
3. In 1977 Iggy Pop wrote and produced The Idiot and Lust for Life with David Bowie
4. David Bowie was good friends with Marc Bolan of T-Rex, whose influence can be seen in many of his albums from the period 1969 to 1973
5. In 1972 Bolan appareared in Ringo Starr’s documentary Born To Boogie
6. Ringo Starr was not the best drummer in the Beatles with George Harrison.


AWESOME!  I tip my hat to you, sir! :clap:
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2008, 10:32:51 AM
And the thing is, I really only had to look up MCR, the rest I knew (though I did need to look up dates). Ithankyou  ;D

Go on throw out another, this is fun.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2008, 10:36:59 AM
Okay...how 'bout Snoop Dogg?
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2008, 10:39:17 AM
Sure?

I think I can do that one in under six but let me have a think.

Here we go:

1. Snoop was in The L Word playing Slim Daddy
2. A regular cast member on The L word is Jennifer Beals
3. Jennifer Beals appeared in The Bride with Sting
4. Sting performed at Live Aid, as did Paul McCartney
5. McCartney was in a little know group from Liverpool that also featured George  Harrison
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2008, 11:19:22 AM
Interesting.  I was sure that it would end up going through Blues Brothers 2000 in some way.  I guess not.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2008, 11:20:44 AM
I could do it that way if you like :)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2008, 11:20:58 AM
Go ahead.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 22, 2008, 11:54:09 AM
1. Snoop featured George Clinton on The Blue Carpet Treatment on Doggystyle
2. George Clinton performed with Big Boi from Outcast at the 2004 Grammys
3. Big Boi’s band mate in Outcast is Andre 3000
4. Andre 3000 was the father of Erykah Badu’s son Seven Sirius Benjamin
5. Erykah Badu featured as Queen Mousette in Blues Brothers 2000, a film that also featured Eric Clapton as a member of The Louisiana Gator Boys
6. Eric Clapton and George Harrison had a timeshare on Pattie Boyd.

 ;)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 22, 2008, 12:28:47 PM
6. Eric Clapton and George Harrison had a timeshare on Pattie Boyd.

Interesting way of putting it. ;D
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 09:55:30 AM
Do another.

I hate comming up with them because it's more fun doing the chains.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: cameage on August 25, 2008, 10:10:05 AM
Where did people get this idea that Ringo Starr is a crappy drummer?  He's a good drummer, but he never did complicated patterns because they would sound ridiculous on Beatles songs.  Just think about All My Loving with Neal Peart-style ostentation.  It sounds asinine.  It's a style, dammit!

Link him with Kevin Bacon.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 10:20:03 AM
I think the response from McCartney probably solidified that image:

Interviewer: Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?
Paul: He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!

I'll be back.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 25, 2008, 10:57:22 AM
Okay...how about Gnarls Barkley?
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 10:59:54 AM
Not including The Grey Album though yes?

1. Gnarls Barkley made the album Live from Abbey Road, surprisingly at Abbey Road Studio in 2006.
2. Twenty seven years earlier George Harrison had recorded, along with his band mates, the album Abbey Road at the same studios.


Still working on the Kevin Bacon one.

Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 25, 2008, 11:18:30 AM
Oh, come on - studios?  That strikes me as rather cheap.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 11:26:51 AM
I can do it in more steps if you like.

But fist Harrison to Kevin Bacon:

1. George Harrison ‘s company hand made films made Shanghai Surprise which Harrison also had a cameo in as a singer at a nightclub, the film featured Sean Penn
2. Sean Penn was in Mystic River with Kevin Bacon
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 25, 2008, 11:29:29 AM
Please do.  I was very disappointed by that last one.

:violin:

(That fiddle music indicates disappointment).
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 11:58:39 AM
1. In the first quarter of 2007 Gnarls Barkley was the support act for the Red Hot Chili Peppers during their Stadium Arcadium tour (I think, definitely the first quarter or 2007)
2. The Red Hot Chili Peppers’ album Stadium Arcadium was produced by Rick Rubin
3. Rubin also produced Mick Jagger’s Wandering Spirit album in 1993
4. Mick Jagger as you might expect appears in the tv special/proto music video The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus which features the group The Dirty Mac one of who’s members was John Lennon.
5. John Lenno was in a modest beat combo with George Harrison.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: cameage on August 25, 2008, 04:37:52 PM
I think the response from McCartney probably solidified that image:

Interviewer: Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?
Paul: He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!

I'll be back.

You can't take anything that megalomaniacal jerk says seriously.  Paul thinks he was the only Beatle that really mattered.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: mrbasehart on August 25, 2008, 06:43:58 PM
I think the response from McCartney probably solidified that image:

Interviewer: Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?
Paul: He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!

I'll be back.

You can't take anything that megalomaniacal jerk says seriously.  Paul thinks he was the only Beatle that really mattered.

Lennon said it, not McCartney.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 25, 2008, 06:50:12 PM
I can do it in more steps if you like.

But fist Harrison to Kevin Bacon:

1. George Harrison ‘s company hand made films made Shanghai Surprise which Harrison also had a cameo in as a singer at a nightclub, the film featured Sean Penn
2. Sean Penn was in Mystic River with Kevin Bacon

I knew that without even looking anything up. ;D
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 06:53:49 PM
I think the response from McCartney probably solidified that image:

Interviewer: Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?
Paul: He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!

I'll be back.
You can't take anything that megalomaniacal jerk says seriously.  Paul thinks he was the only Beatle that really mattered.
Lennon said it, not McCartney.

All the better then  ;D
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Sideswipe on August 25, 2008, 07:11:38 PM
George Harrison was on the Simpson so that means he can be linked to thousands.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 07:26:59 PM
Connect him to Stravinsky then  ;)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: mrbasehart on August 25, 2008, 07:32:02 PM

1.  Stravinsky's "Fire Bird Suite" appeared in the 1980 feature, Bird.
2.  Which co-starred David Hyde Pierce,
3.  Who voiced Silent Bob's brother on the Simpsons
4.  Which George Harrison also appeared on.

 :)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 07:33:00 PM
Well good, but actually I was asking Swipe to do it.  :)

It might actually be possible to do it with person to person conections too  :)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 25, 2008, 07:33:26 PM
I don't know if that's possible, but I DO know how to connect him to Mozart.

Ah, I stand corrected.  Well done, mrbasehart.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 25, 2008, 07:34:35 PM
Go on then, let's see the Mozart connection.

Because even I can't do that, at least not with any ease. ;)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 25, 2008, 07:41:51 PM
1.  George Harrison was in a little Merseybeat group whose name escapes me.
2.  This obscure band released an album called Abbey Road.  Track #8 on this album ("Because") contains a harpsichord line that was adapted from Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.
3.  Beethoven's music was performed before Holy Roman Emperor Leopold II...
4.  ...whose predecessor, Joseph II, thought Mozart's music contained too many notes.

(Beethoven and Mozart also might have met each other at one point, but nobody really knows if they actually did).

And I didn't even have to do any research. :P
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: cameage on August 25, 2008, 11:40:17 PM
I think the response from McCartney probably solidified that image:

Interviewer: Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?
Paul: He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!

I'll be back.
You can't take anything that megalomaniacal jerk says seriously.  Paul thinks he was the only Beatle that really mattered.
Lennon said it, not McCartney.

All the better then  ;D

You can't take anything John said seriously, either, he was like Rivers Cuomo, changing his mind about everything every twenty minutes.

Either way, I think he's a better drummer than people give him credit for.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: mearnest on August 26, 2008, 07:42:14 AM
I have to agree with cameage.  Ringo is an excellent drummer and I'm pretty sure Lennon's statement was in jest.  Keep in mind that when the Beatles were performing live they couldn't hear themselves over the screaming girls.  Ringo had to keep time to nothing and pulled it off.  He also hates drum solos and it apparently took quite a bit of work to get him to do one on Abbey Road.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 26, 2008, 07:46:43 AM
Ringo is an excellent drummer and I'm pretty sure Lennon's statement was in jest. 

But likewise so it the reputation that he is a bad drummer, regardless of who it comes from. Nobody is seriously decrying his drumming, it's just a bit of light hearted mockery. :)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 26, 2008, 07:47:36 AM
1.  George Harrison was in a Liverpool-based Merseybeat band whose name escapes me.
2.  This obscure band released an album called Abbey Road.  Track #8 on this album ("Because") contains a harpsichord line that was adapted from Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.
3.  Beethoven's music was performed before Holy Roman Emperor Leopold II...
4.  ...whose predecessor, Joseph II, thought Mozart's music contained too many notes.

(Beethoven and Mozart also might have met each other at one point, but nobody really knows if they actually did).

And I didn't even have to do any research. :P

Very good by the way.  :clap:

Ok so who's next?

Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: mrbasehart on August 26, 2008, 09:29:48 AM
Al Jolson and George Harrison.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 26, 2008, 09:30:58 AM
But not involving Neal Diamond?

1. In 1947 Al Jolson appeared on the Steven Allen Radio show on KNX  in Los Angeles to promote Jolson Sings Again, during which he made bitchy comments about TV to Allen.
2. Which is funny when you think that, for a time later on, Allen had a pretty popular television show, firstly The Tonight Show and then The Steve Allen Show. Allen didn’t really like rock and roll but the audience did and so many rock and rollers turned up including Elvis Presley.
3. Of course Elvis was pretty big news and so he also appeared on Allen’s direct competition The Ed Sullivan Show as well.
4. A few years after The King swung his pelvis about in front of the massive early TV cameras, a quartet of scousers also strutted their stuff for an adoring crowd on The Ed Sullivan Show. One of the four was a kid by the name of George Harrison.

Oh and I had to look up where Steve Allen ran into Jolson, but I knew that he had at some point. :)

(http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ART/ART196/taking-bow_~TCL058.jpg)
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: cameage on August 26, 2008, 10:05:53 PM
You know, it's almost not fair to use the Simpsons in this, you can link half the Earth's population just with that show.  But whatever.

Link George with Pinochet.
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Tripe on August 27, 2008, 04:49:25 AM
Which Pinochet?
Title: Re: Six Degrees of George Harrison
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 23, 2008, 09:38:52 AM
I think the response from McCartney probably solidified that image:

Interviewer: Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?
Paul: He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!

I'll be back.
You can't take anything that megalomaniacal jerk says seriously.  Paul thinks he was the only Beatle that really mattered.
Lennon said it, not McCartney.

All the better then  ;D
Yes, but Lennon also said that Ringo may not be a good drummer but he was a very good Beatle.  In other words, his persona was a better fit for the image they were going for in their marketing of the group at the beginning.

Remember Lennon and McCartney both thought the band would last a year or two maybe and then they'd parlay that into a songwriting career.

They weren't thinking about the band becoming a musical force.