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Title: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tron on August 05, 2008, 03:39:15 PM
...what would it be?

I'm voting for "voyager" (I won't call it star trek voyager) because it was just a gigantic thread crap on Gene Rodennberry's vision for what he wanted trek to be.


I would also nominate "Seaquest dsv" for wasting a prime time SF tv show attempt.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on August 05, 2008, 03:55:32 PM
CSI, because not only am I eliminating that, I'm eliminating all the imitations that it spawned as well.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 05, 2008, 04:25:31 PM
Cold Case because it makes me cry  :'(

Nah, I actually like that show.

How about Friends; so many better shows could have been made just using their payroll budget alone.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Fortis on August 05, 2008, 05:19:47 PM
I would have said Wipeout last week...but I watched it with the sound off while I listened to music on my zune...and dare I say it, it was kind of entertaining. Do NOT however watch it with the sound on, or else your brain will explode.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: RoninFox on August 05, 2008, 05:42:00 PM
...what would it be?

I'm voting for "voyager" (I won't call it star trek voyager) because it was just a gigantic thread crap on Gene Rodennberry's vision for what he wanted trek to be.

I didn't think Voyager was too bad in the beginning, its just too bad it degenerated to the writers looking at the newspaper and saying things like "oh there's a new Jurassic Park movie out, lets make some dinosaury aliens then" in the middle seasons.  But even that wasn't as bad as the mid-seasons of Sliders when that same newspaper ad led writers to say "cool, lets send these guys to a Jurassic Park planet"
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Rattrap007 on August 05, 2008, 09:17:23 PM
I'd go for American Idol and these Dancing/talent shows. AI is only good during the open auditions of people who can't sing.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tron on August 05, 2008, 09:27:28 PM
I'd go for American Idol and these Dancing/talent shows. AI is only good during the open auditions of people who can't sing.
Amen, brother!

Although AI game us a new synonym for "Asshole", as in "Quit being such a simon cowel!"
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 05, 2008, 09:59:43 PM
I have to second CSI.

Get that crap off of TV!
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Pak-Man on August 05, 2008, 11:25:42 PM
Survivor. Let's make that whole reality TV thing not happen. :^)
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: RoninFox on August 06, 2008, 05:49:08 AM
Survivor. Let's make that whole reality TV thing not happen. :^)

Survivor was far from the beginning of reality TV, things like Cops and the Real World were paving that way long before.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: mrbasehart on August 06, 2008, 06:12:32 AM
Big Brother was the real start of the 'Reality TV'  thing over here.   :gouge:
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: dignan on August 06, 2008, 06:42:32 AM
John From Cincinnatti.  If the removal of that show from existance gave even a remote chance that Deadwood could have come back for a fourth season, it would be worth it. 
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Rattrap007 on August 06, 2008, 08:44:38 AM
I'd also like to get rid of Deadliest Catch. Get rid of all of these "dangerous job" shows like Axe Men, Ice Road Truckers, the oil show one. Saw one coming up on construction crew building a high rise. Because if these keeps up then we will see a series based garbage men and dog walkers..

Mike Row's Dirty Jobs is fine though. That doesn't stick with one single job every day.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 06, 2008, 08:47:57 AM
Bravo owns the rights to any Dog Walker show and will give any other station such a slap if it tries to make one ;)
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Courtney on August 06, 2008, 09:23:59 AM
Real World AFTER Seattle.  That was the last season that had any redeeming qualities and decent people in the cast.  Basically it was the last gasp before orange skanks and roided up dude-brahs took over.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: a pretty girl is like on August 06, 2008, 09:35:49 AM
John From Cincinnatti.  If the removal of that show from existance gave even a remote chance that Deadwood could have come back for a fourth season, it would be worth it. 

I second that motion even though I was one of the four people who liked John From Cincinnati.  I'd much rather have more Deadwood.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tron on August 06, 2008, 06:32:21 PM
Another show I'd like to go back and abort would be "In living color".

Asides from being a hateful show that made fun of handicapped people, the homeless, etc and was produced by scymbags with no schred of human decency, it launched the careers of those scumbags and they ended up doing "scary movie".

So, eliminate "ILC" and there would have never been "scary movie" or it's ripoffs. Wow what a deal!

I'll be off working on a time machine....
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: TeamRAD on August 06, 2008, 08:10:39 PM

I'm in a hard spot here. On one hand, I'd love to eliminate The Hills from existence. But on the other hand, I wouldn't be able to reference "feathers" as a tool to evoke laughter at any given moment.

So I'll stick with the latter, The Hills is still alive...

I love feathers.

 :D
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: anais.jude on August 07, 2008, 08:56:51 AM

I'm in a hard spot here. On one hand, I'd love to eliminate The Hills from existence. But on the other hand, I wouldn't be able to reference "feathers" as a tool to evoke laughter at any given moment.

So I'll stick with the latter, The Hills is still alive...

I love feathers.

 :D


without the hills, The Soup would just be missing something
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: daltysmilth on August 07, 2008, 09:12:39 AM
Since somebody already said Friends, I'll go with Will & Grace.  That show always sticks with me, because it's not like one of those shows where I think "why did someone think this is funny?".  I mean, the jokes were well-written, the cast was pretty talented... it just... never made me laugh.   I don't know why.  Everything just sorta fell flat.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: James of LinHood on August 08, 2008, 04:09:34 AM
Hmmmm.....

I'd do the world a favor and eliminate the CW network from existence.





Really, you can't make me choose just one show from that channel.  The entire programming line up is dreadful.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Rattrap007 on August 08, 2008, 09:43:11 AM
Hmmmm.....

I'd do the world a favor and eliminate the CW network from existence.


Really, you can't make me choose just one show from that channel.  The entire programming line up is dreadful.

Does this include the WB?
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 08, 2008, 09:48:41 AM
Yep WB and UPN two iffy networks that suck worse together.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 08, 2008, 08:19:07 PM
Think I'll go with Lexx.  It was bizarre enough to keep me watching, but in a rubber necking at a car crash way, the time wasted could have been better spent.   ;D
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Darth Geek on August 08, 2008, 09:15:26 PM
The O'Reilly Factor.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 10, 2008, 01:30:39 PM
I would go back and eliminate the original "Battlestar Galactica".....

For all of the sci-fi shows that never made it on to the air because the Suits decided that if a show with SFX from someone who worked on Star Wars couldn't make it.....

And for the fact that NBC wouldn't take a series based on "V - The Miniseries" then when it would have made sense but waited until after "V - The Final Battle" which is why the series they did make sucked so badly.

Or even the ones that did eventually make it onto the air (like "Max Headroom: Twenty Minutes Into the Future") and then got micromanaged and given seconds to succeed and then pulled when they couldn't live up to impossible criteria of ratings.

Plus it threw all the new Star Treks on to syndication where - except for most of TNG - they could suck and there was little or no consequence.  Plus they had other lousy shows ("War of the Worlds") piggybacked onto the air.....\

The failure of that plotless piece of shit has tainted every sci-fi show since.

Yep WB and UPN two iffy networks that suck worse together.

Leave my "Smallville" alone.    :P
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 10, 2008, 03:18:26 PM
Full House
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: daltysmilth on August 10, 2008, 10:58:33 PM
Full House

*Gasp!*  Blasphemy!
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 11, 2008, 02:23:11 AM
Perfect Strangers
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: anais.jude on August 11, 2008, 06:00:19 AM
Full House

*Gasp!*  Blasphemy!

What are you on dope?
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 11, 2008, 06:05:04 AM
If only* because it would mean I'd not have to see Michael Bleeding Cera doing his omega male schtick over and bleeding over again, Arrested Development. :P

*Well that and I'm feeling whimsical this morning   ;)

Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: anais.jude on August 11, 2008, 06:32:41 AM
If only* because it would mean I'd not have to see Michael Bleeding Cera doing his omega male schtick over and bleeding over again, Arrested Development. :P

*Well that and I'm feeling whimsical this morning   ;)



We are no longer friends
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 11, 2008, 06:54:01 AM
Oh and I was thinking it would get that reaction too,  :-*
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tron on August 19, 2008, 08:46:29 PM
Who Wants to be a Millionaire? for resurrecting prime-time shit gameshows.
 

How about MTV's "the real world" for introducing us to "reality TV"?

Come on, someone has to give me a "Hell yeah!" for that one...
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on August 19, 2008, 08:48:09 PM
I wonder, if we were to kill reality TV before it were born, whether we would have good shows like Mythbusters and the like, which have elements of reality shows in them.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Doctor Who? on August 19, 2008, 08:50:49 PM
Wait a sec if we got rid of reality TV that would mean no The Office,that is supposed  to be a reality TV!!

No it's just not worth it.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Keroppi20 on August 19, 2008, 10:23:47 PM
Perfect Strangers
Full House

Are you going after all of TGIF  :o

Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 20, 2008, 05:37:03 AM
Perfect Strangers
Full House
Are you going after all of TGIF  :o

The restaurant chain?



Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 20, 2008, 09:56:30 AM
Are you going after all of TGIF  :o

The restaurant chain?

An advertising gimmick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGIF_(ABC)).

Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: jewishcarpenter on August 20, 2008, 10:45:08 AM
War of the Worlds tv series, only because it provided some scenes that scared the hell out of me when I was young.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Courtney on August 20, 2008, 10:54:10 AM
If only* because it would mean I'd not have to see Michael Bleeding Cera doing his omega male schtick over and bleeding over again, Arrested Development. :P

*Well that and I'm feeling whimsical this morning   ;)



That's quite possibly the most evil wish ever wished.  You might as well have just said "I wish Buffy Summers had never come to Sunnydale."
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 20, 2008, 10:56:09 AM
And we'd have had Kendra the Vampire Slayer? Rock On  ;D
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 20, 2008, 11:51:15 AM
Perfect Strangers
Full House

Are you going after all of TGIF  :o



If you will let me.  :-*
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 20, 2008, 02:24:03 PM
War of the Worlds tv series, only because it provided some scenes that scared the hell out of me when I was young.
THAT piece of shit scared you?  How old were you?  Four?

To me, what was scary was that a show so stupid, cheap and incompetent (I mean the foley on the footsteps didn't even match sometimes) could not only get on the air piggybacked with pre-solds in a syndication package with ST:TNG.....

And that somebody actually thought it was a good idea to release it on DVD!!!!!!
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: mrbasehart on August 20, 2008, 02:25:49 PM
War of the Worlds tv series, only because it provided some scenes that scared the hell out of me when I was young.
THAT piece of shit scared you?  How old were you?  Four?

To me, what was scary was that a show so stupid, cheap and incompetent (I mean the foley on the footsteps didn't even match sometimes) could not only get on the air piggybacked with pre-solds in a syndication package with ST:TNG.....

And that somebody actually thought it was a good idea to release it on DVD!!!!!!

That's a shame, as I think a War of the Worlds tv series could be awesome. 
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: jewishcarpenter on August 20, 2008, 02:28:20 PM
Nope, I was ten and easy to scare. People melting wasn't my idea of a fun time.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: bettertomorrowamy on August 20, 2008, 02:30:11 PM
I remember it scaring me somewhat....but it was a pretty bad show.  Did have a lot of potential though.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: jewishcarpenter on August 20, 2008, 02:37:06 PM
Yeah after I posted this I watched the first episode on youtube, pretty bad. At least now I know where they got the character model for the vortigaunts for the game Half Life.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 20, 2008, 02:46:52 PM
That's a shame, as I think a War of the Worlds tv series could be awesome.

It would be....and Kenneth Johnson tried.  Only he wanted to call it "V" and start it after the first mini-series.  But I digress.   ;)

The problem with this

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412VSGQ4PBL._SS500_.jpg)

...was that they started with the premise that all of that stuff that happened in the Gene Barry movie...it really did happen here on Earth. Back in the 1950's the Martians attacked and germs attacked them.  We supposedly decided as a whole of a race (something we've never managed before or since) to work together to build everything back the way that it was and then have a collective brain fart and forget that it ever happened.

Only, the Martians didn't actually die when the germs attacked them.  They only went into hibernation.  And the world officials weren't smart enough to kill them, burn their bodies etc....they put them all into oil barrels and put those into unused missle silos.  Problem starts when somebody decides to start storing nuclear waste in those same silos next to the "sleeping" Martians.  The radiation not only revives them but innoculates them against batceria.

Oh, and it also reminds them that they know how to take over the bodies of human beings.  Which is probably what scared him - the Martian hand coming out of people's chests and disappearing inside them.

And when it's discovered that the Martians are running around - trying to find the Fighting Machines or the parts of Machines that the goverments have or are buried around he world - the US puts together a scientist with a soldier and a couple others to try to find and stop them AND not have the general population find out.

(which could be where Brannon Braga got the idea for "Threshold", I don't know)

At least, that was the first season.  The second season they changed completely....and I didn't see enough of that to give you a complete description.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: mrbasehart on August 20, 2008, 02:51:37 PM
For something you hated, you sure watched a lot of it...  ;)
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 20, 2008, 02:56:45 PM
Nope, I was ten and easy to scare. People melting wasn't my idea of a fun time.

That sounds like the second season....

That tried to look like "Max Headroom: Twenty Minutes Into the Future" and suddenly the Martians are calling themselves something else and there's something about this invasion being about their god coming back....or some crap.  I didn't watch much after that.  Before it was like kind of "so bad it's facinating"...the second season was just so full of itself it wasn't funny anymore.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: jewishcarpenter on August 21, 2008, 11:39:22 AM
If not War of the Worlds tv series then I'd probably get rid of "The Hills" I'm sure there's something that's going to come along someday that will be worse than this show but for now I'd just be happy knowing that tv show is no more. On a semi-related note anyone read Heidi Montag is claiming she's "still a virgin". Yeah, apparently some people went back and caught her on an episode saying to creepy-flesh-colored-beard guy that she took a pregnancy test. Apparently she was making sure she wasn't going to give birth to our next lord & savior. Damn, I hate talking about that show and those people, but I just can't help myself. I'm apparently part of the problem of why they're still popular. *shoots self in head*
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on August 21, 2008, 12:10:37 PM
For something you hated, you sure watched a lot of it...  ;)
It was in between two things I liked that ran on Saturday afternoon....so I let it run.  Besides, I've liked bad movies and TV since long before MST3K existed.  It was a sometimes entertaining catastrophe.  It was just a really outlandish premise.  And I didn't say that it didn't have it's moments.

There was one good episode - the Halloween episode.  It was about stopping the Martians from digging up a Fighting Machine at Grover's Mill, NJ during a festival commemorating the anniversary of the Orson Wells WotW broadcast (which, like the kidnapping of the brides in  The Corpse Vanishes, why do it on the most conspicuous day ever?).

Again, according to this show, that radio broadcast was actually a conspiracy.  That the first attempt at an invasion had been back in 1938 and that the US had gone to Wells to do this production and cause a bit of a panic.  Then they could make anyone who actually saw the Fighting Machine or the Martians the object of ridicule.

It was actually pretty good and - as whenever they did an appearance of a George Pal Fighting Machine - the effects were really good.  It was all the rest of the time than they went cheap and/or incompetent.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: DarthChimay on August 21, 2008, 02:45:53 PM
Just 1? Hmmm....

I'd go with John Edward, so long as I can eliminate the man with the show.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: gbeenie on August 23, 2008, 09:30:03 AM
The View. The show positively wallows in every single bad stereotype ever believed about women.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: MartyS (Gromit) on August 23, 2008, 09:50:11 AM
Just 1? Hmmm....

I'd go with John Edward, so long as I can eliminate the man with the show.

But then we wouldn't have the South Park episode about him, and it's one of my favorites...
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tron on August 24, 2008, 01:10:01 PM
Just 1? Hmmm....

I'd go with John Edward, so long as I can eliminate the man with the show.

But then we wouldn't have the South Park episode about him, and it's one of my favorites...

A little OT here, but there are people a LOT worse than John Edwards.

I mean, he may be a sleaze, but he never forced anyone to believe in hik or give him money, right?

Some of the people running america's medical corporations, pharmaceutical corporations and such are a lot worse than john edwards.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Darth Geek on August 24, 2008, 07:02:15 PM
Barney
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: cameage on August 24, 2008, 10:17:30 PM
That's easy.

If I could eliminate the man along with any show he's on, Sean Hannity.

If not, Lost.  Hands down.  Screw JJ Abrahms.  Seriously, if there's one thing that does not need resurrection, it's Star Trek movies.  I hate everything the guy has ever done.

Oh, and speaking of Full House: http://progressiveboink.com/archive/fullhouse.htm
And it's special little cousin, Step By Step: http://progressiveboink.com/archive/stepbystep.htm
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: gbeenie on August 25, 2008, 06:46:05 PM
Just 1? Hmmm....

I'd go with John Edward, so long as I can eliminate the man with the show.

But then we wouldn't have the South Park episode about him, and it's one of my favorites...

A little OT here, but there are people a LOT worse than John Edwards.

How many of them have their own TV shows?

Some of the people running america's medical corporations, pharmaceutical corporations and such are a lot worse than john edwards.

Wow. Do you actually believe a statement that moronic?



p.s. And it's John EDWARD. John Edwards is a different scumbag who takes advantage of people.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: BBQ Platypus on August 25, 2008, 06:57:32 PM
I want to say The Hills, but it would be a futile effort to eliminate such a show.  Another equally terrible reality show would just spring up in its place.  Hell, we'd still have Keeping Up with the Kardashians.  No, in order to truly kill it, it would be necessary to go right to the source.  I am talking, of course, about The Real World.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tron on August 25, 2008, 08:59:56 PM
Just 1? Hmmm....

I'd go with John Edward, so long as I can eliminate the man with the show.

But then we wouldn't have the South Park episode about him, and it's one of my favorites...

A little OT here, but there are people a LOT worse than John Edwards.

How many of them have their own TV shows?

Some of the people running america's medical corporations, pharmaceutical corporations and such are a lot worse than john edwards.

Wow. Do you actually believe a statement that moronic?


Wow, do you REALLY think that some of the people pricing medical care out of the reach of average americans aren't bigger scumbags than a modern day swami?
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: gbeenie on August 26, 2008, 01:57:45 PM
Just 1? Hmmm....

I'd go with John Edward, so long as I can eliminate the man with the show.

But then we wouldn't have the South Park episode about him, and it's one of my favorites...

A little OT here, but there are people a LOT worse than John Edwards.

How many of them have their own TV shows?

Some of the people running america's medical corporations, pharmaceutical corporations and such are a lot worse than john edwards.

Wow. Do you actually believe a statement that moronic?


Wow, do you REALLY think that some of the people pricing medical care out of the reach of average americans aren't bigger scumbags than a modern day swami?

You don't know what you're talking about, and therefore might want to stop talking.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tron on August 26, 2008, 02:45:10 PM
Just 1? Hmmm....

I'd go with John Edward, so long as I can eliminate the man with the show.

But then we wouldn't have the South Park episode about him, and it's one of my favorites...

A little OT here, but there are people a LOT worse than John Edwards.

How many of them have their own TV shows?

Some of the people running america's medical corporations, pharmaceutical corporations and such are a lot worse than john edwards.

Wow. Do you actually believe a statement that moronic?


Wow, do you REALLY think that some of the people pricing medical care out of the reach of average americans aren't bigger scumbags than a modern day swami?

You don't know what you're talking about, and therefore might want to stop talking.

Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. The fact you think people who disagree with you shouldn't say what they believe does make you look arrogant and pompous.

Ever think of becoming a moderator on RPG.net? You might fit right in.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tyrant on August 26, 2008, 03:41:17 PM
Barney

 :clap:

  And while we're at it, Tele Tubbies.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Cthulhu Bob on August 26, 2008, 06:19:43 PM
So many good choices for bad shows, hmmm.

At first I wanted to eliminate the Phil Donahue Show since then all those daytime talk shows would disappear but then I realized that would eliminate Ellen as well and that wouldn't do because she is damn funny and not an arrogant SOB like all the other talk show hosts.

So instead my second choice would be 2 networks that I loathe, Star and E!. I have no wish to learn all the dirt and detailed sordid pasts of the stars of shows and movies I watch. I know I should care that the star of the latest summer blockbuster is a Scientologist or beats puppies, but at the same time should I penalize the rest of the team that made that movie? When Hollywood started up the studio system was very good at hiding the foibles of their stars and people would be able to innocently enjoy all those old movies but when we hit the cynical '70s everything changed. Nobody could just go to a movie and enjoy it for what it was anymore unless it was filled with a cast of unknowns (i.e. Star Wars). There have been far better critiques of the cult of celebrity that we are currently awash in by far more skilled writers so I will leave it at that....

But one more thing, Entertainment News is as oxymoronic as Military Intelligence  ;D.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: DarthChimay on August 27, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
Just 1? Hmmm....

I'd go with John Edward, so long as I can eliminate the man with the show.

But then we wouldn't have the South Park episode about him, and it's one of my favorites...

A little OT here, but there are people a LOT worse than John Edwards.

I mean, he may be a sleaze, but he never forced anyone to believe in hik or give him money, right?

Some of the people running america's medical corporations, pharmaceutical corporations and such are a lot worse than john edwards.

He's more than a sleaze; him, James Van Praagh, Sylvia Browne, et al. really do damage to people. Just take a look at the whole Sylvia/Shawn Hornbeck situation, and think about how these people disrupt the natural grieving cycle with "supernatural knowledge" that's about as deep as a Hallmark card. Just because he doesn't physically force someone to give him money doesn't make him any less of a con man and a monster.

Some of the people running america's medical corporations, pharmaceutical corporations and such are a lot worse than john edwards.

As beenie pointed out, it is Edward, not Edwards, but the spelling error does add a total new level of amusement and creates an entirely different argument.

The difference is that what those people are selling aren't made up fantasies and lies. Medicine works. If you come down with the flu, do you go to a psychic or a doctor?
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 27, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
[He's more than a sleaze; him, James Van Praagh, Sylvia Browne, et al. really do damage to people. Just take a look at the whole Sylvia/Shawn Hornbeck situation, and think about how these people disrupt the natural grieving cycle with "supernatural knowledge" that's about as deep as a Hallmark card. Just because he doesn't physically force someone to give him money doesn't make him any less of a con man and a monster. All of them sit there and make up shit just to get people to give them money.

Yeah, I saw a Sylvia Brown book for children in Borders a while back, frankly any parent who gives that to a child who is greiving the loss of a pet (which is what it was about) should be prosecuted for child abuse.

Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: DarthChimay on August 27, 2008, 11:16:35 AM
[He's more than a sleaze; him, James Van Praagh, Sylvia Browne, et al. really do damage to people. Just take a look at the whole Sylvia/Shawn Hornbeck situation, and think about how these people disrupt the natural grieving cycle with "supernatural knowledge" that's about as deep as a Hallmark card. Just because he doesn't physically force someone to give him money doesn't make him any less of a con man and a monster. All of them sit there and make up shit just to get people to give them money.

Yeah, I saw a Sylvia Brown book for children in Borders a while back, frankly any parent who gives that to a child who is greiving the loss of a pet (which is what it was about) should be prosecuted for child abuse.


Sylvia should do the type of children's story she's born for... one where she plays an evil harpy. Gods knows she looks like one.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 27, 2008, 01:01:34 PM
This is the book:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51NAKGQ4AZL._SS500_.jpg)

Horrible, though the amazon page is amusing to read as many of the one star reviews come from fans of Browne who didn't realise it was a children's book.  :D
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: DarthChimay on August 27, 2008, 01:12:26 PM
This is the book:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51NAKGQ4AZL._SS500_.jpg)

Horrible, though the amazon page is amusing to read as many of the one star reviews come from fans of Browne who didn't realise it was a children's book.  :D

I smell Photoshop goodness. Also, what on earth is that panda doing to that cat?
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Tripe on August 27, 2008, 01:15:01 PM
The cat looks deeply afeared. I fancy it's an image from Panda Heaven and Siamese Hell.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: DarthChimay on August 27, 2008, 02:52:54 PM
The cat looks deeply afeared. I fancy it's an image from Panda Heaven and Siamese Hell.

I'd love to see her talk about that on Montel.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Pak-Man on September 07, 2008, 06:19:34 PM
Can we get rid of The Hole?
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: DarthChimay on September 16, 2008, 06:54:27 PM
Can we get rid of The Hole?

That movie where Kiera Knightley bares her ta-tas?!?!?!? NEVER!!!!!!
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 16, 2008, 07:49:26 PM
FIREFLY IS THE MOST AWESOME THING IN HUMAN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on September 16, 2008, 07:50:52 PM
That'd keep Summer Glau out of my face, too. I second.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Thom_Serveaux on September 16, 2008, 08:39:24 PM
Is Tom Green still on the air? in any form? If so Then I choose him....

EDIT: Oh Wait, he's 'producing' and starring in a movie...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1105727/plotsummary

sounds like a load of...

...well just a load.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: DarthChimay on September 17, 2008, 12:25:57 PM
Actually, now that I think about it...Firefly. Mostly for spite.  Because if I hear another person tell me how "awesome" it is, I will snap. Imrahil smash.

HEATHEN!!!!! How dare you besmirch Joss Whedon!!! He is my MASTER!!! Firefly is better than... than.. the bible!!! It's better than sex with a dozen Catholic school girls!!!! It's better than... um.... an ATM CARD!!!

Okay, I do love the show, but yeah, browncoats can be a truly obnoxious bunch.

That'd keep Summer Glau out of my face, too. I second.

Okay, now this I can't let slide by. I love Summer Glau. I almost hit on her once, until I realized who she was and instantly turned into a coward. She's way more gorgeous in real life than she is on the TV, and she's one of the hottest women ever on TV.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Rattrap007 on September 17, 2008, 12:46:25 PM
American Idol...
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Plastic Self-Cleaning Duck on September 17, 2008, 02:03:32 PM
Actually, now that I think about it...Firefly. Mostly for spite.  Because if I hear another person tell me how "awesome" it is, I will snap. Imrahil smash.

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Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on September 17, 2008, 02:29:07 PM
That'd keep Summer Glau out of my face, too. I second.

Okay, now this I can't let slide by. I love Summer Glau. I almost hit on her once, until I realized who she was and instantly turned into a coward. She's way more gorgeous in real life than she is on the TV, and she's one of the hottest women ever on TV.

You know what, I'm sick of hearing that. I'm sick of frothing apes shoving googled images of some moderately attractive actress into my face and saying she's the hottest woman ever. Frankly, I unconsciously associate her with that experience, so Summer Glau is somewhere between Pete Postlethwaite and Steve Buscemi on my Hollywood fantasy list (along with Jessica Alba). Her name brings me not pleasure but spite. A black, bubbling tide of spite.

I'm not talking about you, by the way.... not trying to be a prick. Just having an outburst.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Trumpysgirl on September 17, 2008, 02:47:54 PM
I call for a hit on any reality TV show that forces strangers to live together. I spent an entire summer with my grandmother sitting on a couch, forced to watch Big Brother. I would have had more fun being hog tied with my own intestines.

And Firefly is awesome. That's right, I said it, who wants some?!?!
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: DarthChimay on September 17, 2008, 02:55:50 PM
That'd keep Summer Glau out of my face, too. I second.

Okay, now this I can't let slide by. I love Summer Glau. I almost hit on her once, until I realized who she was and instantly turned into a coward. She's way more gorgeous in real life than she is on the TV, and she's one of the hottest women ever on TV.

You know what, I'm sick of hearing that. I'm sick of frothing apes shoving googled images of some moderately attractive actress into my face and saying she's the hottest woman ever. Frankly, I unconsciously associate her with that experience, so Summer Glau is somewhere between Pete Postlethwaite and Steve Buscemi on my Hollywood fantasy list (along with Jessica Alba). Her name brings me not pleasure but spite. A black, bubbling tide of spite.

I'm not talking about you, by the way.... not trying to be a prick. Just having an outburst.

How dare you find different women attractive than I?!?

Sir, I'm afraid we're going to have to duel to the death.... the Shatnerian way.

http://www.youtube.com/v/XyhhFzE5O5U&hl=en&fs=1

Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: RobtheBarbarian on September 17, 2008, 04:18:51 PM
That is the perfect way to resolve this, as long as someone runs in and knocks one of us out long enough to be mistaken for dead.
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Doctor Who? on September 17, 2008, 07:42:41 PM
FIREFLY IS THE MOST AWESOME THING IN HUMAN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!

RAR! Imrahil SMASH!

Happy? :)

Very.

It should be against the law to not watch an episode of Firefly once a day.

Also if the government is going to bail out banks and airlines why can't they fund another season of Firefly?
Title: Re: If you could eliminate 1 tv series from history...
Post by: Thom_Serveaux on September 17, 2008, 07:57:22 PM
Actually now  that I think about it, The View, or as I like to refer to it 'The Ewwwwwwwwwwww'...