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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2007, 10:06:31 PM » |
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I think there just isn't enough originality with undead these days. It's all about zombies, werewolves, and sexy vampires.
There are so many concepts yet to be engineered, and so many perfectly good undead people just forgot about. What about the Draugrs? Barrow-guardians that can rise like smoke and grow themselves to towering sizes? What about the Revenants, undead with a bit of backstory and character rather than just "got bitten/cursed/whatever". What about skeletons? Those guys need to see more action, especially flaming skeletons or skeletons of the knock em apart they come back together variety.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2007, 10:51:21 AM » |
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Good ole Harryhausen skeletons that somehow have the "angry brow" look.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2007, 12:43:30 AM » |
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YES!
Swashbuckling skeletons! That's what we need. And even better if they scream. I just think the scream the skeletons warriors of "Jason and the argonauts" gave was perfect. It wasn't a cry of jealousy and hatred towards all living things, or an animal cry like a man dying of fear. It was an orchestral, high, sharp, shriek, like the idea behind "attack" or "pounce" or 'kill" concentrated into a single chord.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2007, 06:40:09 AM » |
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Okay, so after pulling a near all-nighter reading the end, I finally finished A Feast For Crows.
Holy shit!
He's killing me with these cliffhanger chapter endings. So, for those who have read:
Again, I'm liking Jaime more and more, to the point where he is, I think, my favorite of this bunch. Maybe it's just that he had more interesting things to do in his chapters. The Sunspear stuff left me bored, though the one line that Doran Martell casually throws away, about "molten gold" had me thinking. Good thing I read the bit at the end which reminded me that So ol' Doran's got some
All in all, the book didn't feel like it had much of a plot; it felt like a reaction to last book and a set up for the next book. That's fine, to some extent, but...900 pages is kind of hefty for that sort of tale. I'd have loved a bit more of a "story" to it, I think.
Well at least next one we'll get back to Stannis and Davos and the Wall, and (sigh) Dany and her stupid lame-ass minions.
Does anyone else think Westeros is just WAY better off without Targaryens?
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2007, 06:51:52 AM » |
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Me! I do.
The Tarygs were nothing but inbred monsters. Oh sure, now and again you'd get a decent one or a competent ruler...but the odds of the next one being bughouse nuts were WAY too high.
I feel sorry for Robert. He rebelled in a fit of outrage and righteous anger...and got stuck ruling a kingdom as his reward. He would have been much happier as Warden of the East or just living as your average wenching, fighting noble.
But if there's a theme to this series it is: Nobody gets what they want. Deal with it.
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2007, 07:18:02 AM » |
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1. Don't think so, though there is a lot of speculation regarding what she said at the end there
2. No, it's a training technique
3. about 6 inches
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2007, 05:28:41 PM » |
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Oh maaan, I just cannot WAIT for the audiobook Game of Thrones to come into my library. >.<
How is it that my library, my county, my entire STATE has only the THIRD song of fire and ice book on tape? o_0
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2007, 06:12:37 AM » |
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I'm waiting for more Tyrion. He's obviously GRRM's favorite character and always a blast to read. And I think you're wrong on the theme of the books. It's not "Nobody gets what they want. Deal with it.", it's "Life sucks and then you die"  |
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2007, 08:34:57 AM » |
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I am getting it via inter library loan. It just takes really long. =/
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2007, 08:53:49 AM » |
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1. Don't think so, though there is a lot of speculation regarding what she said at the end there 2. No, it's a training technique 3. about 6 inches #1: What sort of speculation? Do you think tihs was a "trick" like the one the Freys were trying to pull at Riverrun, with a I really don't like Tyrion as much as everyone else does. Frankly, I don't see why the little shit was allowed to live as long as he was; Tywin didn't seem the type to put up with it, especially with a mouth like his. I dread having to read Dany chapters in the next book as well. For A Storm of Swords I eventually got tired of GRRM jerking me around and started reading the POV chapters all in a bunch (so I'd find the Tyrion chapter, then the next one, then the next, etc.). It got a bit ragged around things like the Battle of Blackwater, but oh well. I seriously considered skipping the Dany chapters altogether, but eventually stuck with them. Speculation is around The Tyrion thing you have sounds like personal taste, no telling how some people will react to characters. I find him sympathetic. His father has hated him since the day he was born...literally. He was allowed to live because he was a Lannister. Tywin didn't 'put up with him', he gave him several 'sharp lessons', including taking his wife from him, having her raped by Lannister guardsmen and then forcing Tyrion to take sloppy 12ths at the end of it. When your father does shite like that to you, being mouthy is the very least I'd be. I admire his wit, his desire to be just, his love for his Brother, his intelligence. He got a bad hand, but he's playing it all the way. I love the POV switches, I don't think it would be the same book if it was more linear. It does create a tendency for cliffhanger-ism...but that is more good than bad I think. |
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2007, 10:06:20 AM » |
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I think the POV switches are generally a good device, but I hate being stuck on the edge of cliffs, so whenever there's an ending like that I immediately search for that character's next POV.
Re: Tyrion--I think the big issue is that I don't think he's as smart or funny as he (and everyone else) does. If he were really smart, he'd keep is goddamn mouth shut a lot more often than he does. He thinks he's Jaime, and he can get away with it; he should know better. And I still don't know why Tywin didn't shuttle him off somewhere or arrange an "accident" to get rid of him. It'd be the least of the bad things that man's done.
I think that makes him a more realistic character. He knows he should keep his mouth shut, but how can he when there's so much to mock?  |
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2007, 08:00:16 PM » |
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Whether you find Tyrian annoying or endearing, you have to admit he plays an important and helpful role. Tyrian gives Snow some useful advice that reshapes his life.
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Could have used some more fantasy content, but it works well this way. The intense realism of everything else brings the fantasy into stark relief. Dragons aren't just a threat of some kind, large dangers. They are Oh-my-gods, it's a blooody DRAGON!
There's something I don't get. The family leader/lord stark was stabbed through the chin by littlefinger, yet not only is he alive, but there is no further mention of that particular wound. What's with that?
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2007, 09:58:21 AM » |
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Only finished the first book, Game of Thrones.
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2007, 03:44:37 AM » |
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Um...
Mr. Stark, he dead.
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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2007, 04:50:44 PM » |
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