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« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2009, 07:56:39 PM » |
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ou can come to America, abandon your family, have no money in the world and still never need to sell a huge ass diamond. She couldn't sell it or Cal would have found her and knew she was alive. It's not like you can show up with one of the rarest diamonds in the world to the pawn shop and stay on the downlow... And yet... she was described as having been "a movie actor in the 20s" by Paxton's hefty exposition expert. Cal never saw movies? Or anyone who KNEW Rose never saw a movie? Granted, they didn't say she was a Clara Bow-size STAR, but still, you'd think someone trying to keep a low profile could have found a less flamboyant way to do so. But yeah, a big honking diamond like that would be hard to cover up. Problem really was that it actually belonged to Cal. Tho possession is 9/10 of the law, he never gave it to her, I believe that he only said that she'd get "that and more" when she married him. Unless she rationalized that he gave her the suitcoat, and the diamond was in the suitcoat, so ipso-facto, he was giving her the diamond, Rose was a thief. The thing was: she was so 'liberated' by her interactions with diCapricorn's character, by that point (after a year or two) she could've said, "F-off!" to him if he found her. So basically, holding onto the Chicken of the Sea was sentimentality, throwing it overboard was stupidity. [Or did I hear a slight "oops" from her around the time the thing hit the water?] Wow... we are giving this so much more thought than Cameron did! |
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« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2009, 01:06:11 AM » |
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We can consider that she just hid the diamond, not really wanting to do anything with it. And by the time she's a big star and Cal would've seen her onscreen, he's already married and has all his money. Assuming he's still looking for the diamond and should he have ever confronted her about it (which, according to her at the end, he didn't), she could've just said she lost it when she was floating in the water.
Plus, he may not have seen her. She was probably an actress for more than just in the 20s, and was possibly still a rising star at the time. By the time she hits it really big, Cal could've already offed himself. Thus, problem solved with him.
Then with the diamond, why would she want to sell it? It was well established she hated the life of the super-wealthy, and selling a diamond like that would've just put her right back into the life she tried to escape. She probably got a fairly comfortable living as an actress, so there was no need for a dump truck full of money. And I don't think she cared too much about it, aside from the fact that it was nice to look at. Then, she gets a chance to go back to where the ship sank, and decides to just send it back down to the ship, where she probably feels it belongs (and avoid giving it to that whiner Paxton).
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« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2009, 06:55:47 AM » |
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Also, I guess the ship didn't have the ability to reverse only one prop? That's how most multi-prop ships make hard turns. But did they have that in Titanic's time? Or was that something they learned from the disaster and put in place? And they did have binoculars but they were missing, you can hear someone ask about them and the reply was that he hadn't seen them since Southampton.
Wow......I just learned that not only did the "world's most luxurious ocean liner" not bother with enough life boats, but the company was so cheap that they outfitted the entire ship with just enough binoculars (or was that the only set, I forget)!!!  "Yeah, they won't lose or drop and break the ones we're giving them...and it's not like they're important or anything." |
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« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2009, 05:39:21 PM » |
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I learned that movies as stupid as The Room can win best picture.
I also learned that you can go over budget even when 80% of your movie takes place in the same hallways.
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« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2009, 03:16:48 PM » |
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Do you know who had the sweetest deal out of the whole thing? Sven, the Swedish guy who Jack won the tickets off in Belfast. When the news got back to Ireland that the great Titanic was sunk, Sven must have spent the next three weeks getting rat-arsed drunk, congratulating himself on being the luckiest sonofabitch to ever live. (And then died of the Spanish flu a few years later, but never mind.)
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« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2009, 05:10:24 PM » |
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Only if the first World War didn't get him first.
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I thought that Battlefield Earth was a spectactular dramatic masterpiece with the best acting and cinematography of any movie ever, and it got riffed!!!! (breaks out into tears) |
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« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2009, 08:24:40 AM » |
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I learned that there was still one TV network that still had the nerve to show a drawing of nude breasts without pixelating them out.....
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« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2009, 03:12:12 AM » |
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I learned George Lucas must have watched this before writing Star Wars: ATOTC.
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« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2009, 02:38:53 PM » |
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[And yet... she was described as having been "a movie actor in the 20s" by Paxton's hefty exposition expert. Cal never saw movies? Or anyone who KNEW Rose never saw a movie? Granted, they didn't say she was a Clara Bow-size STAR, but still, you'd think someone trying to keep a low profile could have found a less flamboyant way to do so.
Oh, that's just Hollywood's concept of a "fairytale ending". She went on to be... a MOOOOOOVIE star!!! (and lived happily ever after). Of course it's ridiculous and impossible. She wasn't just an Irish girl landing unknown on the shores of America; she was a high society figure, from a prominent family. She'd sent out 200 invitations to her wedding. Forget about Cal - it's unthinkable that NO ONE out of her many, many acquaintances, would have spotted her and identified her. And the rise of the Hollywood movie industry spawned the invention of movie magazines and publicity campaigns - it would have been impossible for anyone to "hide" as a movie actress. They could have made it more believable if she'd been a STAGE actress - maybe she could have restricted herself to playing on the west coast, avoided the big eastern cities - but no, they were too pigheadedly determined that Rose had to have the best of everything, and nothing could compare to being a movie star, so we got this ridiculous fantasy. |
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Flat, drab passon meanders across the screen!
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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2009, 01:07:52 PM » |
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I learned that the captain had two days before retirement.
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Why would you do that? - Zim Because it's cool. - Martian "My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We only kill out of personal spite." - Brain Guy Chomp on, little dude!
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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2009, 01:37:27 PM » |
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I learned that the captain had two days before retirement.
And he was partners with Dirty Harry. |
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« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2009, 02:43:23 PM » |
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He and his wife had also just baught a boat named Live4Ever.
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I thought that Battlefield Earth was a spectactular dramatic masterpiece with the best acting and cinematography of any movie ever, and it got riffed!!!! (breaks out into tears) |
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« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2009, 02:44:31 PM » |
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He also just signed on to drum for "Spinal Tap"
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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2009, 02:50:16 PM » |
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And he had talked to Emma Peel about "the strange goings on in the village."
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