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« Reply #90 on: July 28, 2009, 11:37:05 AM »

Okay, I tried to import the file to Garageband and it loaded, but then Garageband quit. Did I install the wrong version of Handbrake? Should I have installed the ILC version instead of the easier first one? The movie showed up on my desktop as an .M4v file, which I guess is alright, right? Please help me!! (sobs)
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« Reply #91 on: July 28, 2009, 02:53:54 PM »

  I'm not familiar with the Express versions, but Final Cut Pro is the best video editing software out there.

   It's what I do my riffs in. I do record my audio without watching the video, so that I don't get distracted and can focus on the performance. This leads to a long, long difficult editing process.

    I record using a camcorder and a professional mic.
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« Reply #92 on: July 28, 2009, 06:22:20 PM »

Okay, I tried to import the file to Garageband and it loaded, but then Garageband quit. Did I install the wrong version of Handbrake? Should I have installed the ILC version instead of the easier first one? The movie showed up on my desktop as an .M4v file, which I guess is alright, right? Please help me!! (sobs)

Not sure, I'm sure it's all relatively the same.  I'm running version 0.9.1

I think you can import just about any file type that Quicktime can handle.  But I think .mp4 might be your best bet.  Sorry I'm not much help right now as I've been posting from my Blackberry the past few days.
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« Reply #93 on: July 29, 2009, 06:26:26 AM »

no problem. I seem to have got the video imported into garageband, so so far so good.
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« Reply #94 on: August 10, 2009, 09:47:02 PM »

Hello everyone. I'm very new at this whole iRiffing thing. At least, the concept of recording myself riffing for others to listen to and enjoy.

Enough B.S.ing, I'll get to my point. Recently I recorded my third attempt at my first iRiff and, just like my other two attempts, shortly after the first synch line, nothing matches up. I don't know if it's a flaw inherent with my recording software or what. I just find it odd that all three times, I keep having the same problem when I listen to the playback for the first time after I finish recording.

My recording method is as follows; watching the movie on Windows MediaPlayer while simultaniously recording my commentary in Audacity. I've read that some successful recording methods include just recording the commentary on its own and then attempting to sync it up to the movie afterwards or just have the audio of the movie playing as one track in Audacity while recording the commentary on another.

Would anyone be able to give me some sort of direction on how to more succesfully record using Audacity, or suggest some other (preferably free) recording software? Any other advice you'd be willing to offer, I'd be glad to hear also. Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2009, 10:02:36 PM »

How exactly are you playing the movie?  Are you playing the dvd in Media Player,or are you playing from a file?  If you converted the video, you might have affected the framerate, throwing off your timing.

I would definately suggest ripping the audio and putting it in Audacity either before you record or afterward to edit to.
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« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2009, 10:12:04 PM »

How exactly are you playing the movie?  Are you playing the dvd in Media Player,or are you playing from a file?  If you converted the video, you might have affected the framerate, throwing off your timing.

I would definately suggest ripping the audio and putting it in Audacity either before you record or afterward to edit to.

Playing it from the DVD. I'm hoping that having both the DVD and Audacity running at the same time isn't botching things somehow.

And I think I will take your advice and put the movie's audio into Audacity. Maybe this will make things easier for me. It's getting to the point where I almost want to say screw the whole thing because I'm so frustrated with the process. But that which doesn't kill us... make for tired cliches.

Seriously though, thanks for the help.
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« Reply #97 on: August 11, 2009, 04:40:30 PM »

OK, I hate to post twice in a row but figured I'd ask what would be the best method of ripping the audio of the movie? I tried using the record "What U Hear" option on Audacity while playing the movie, but I get the sinking feeling that things might not be perfectly in sync afterwards.
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« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2009, 04:53:16 PM »

I'd suggest reading the "unofficial rifftrax dvd creation guide" in the technical support section, its an invaluable resource for dealing with dealing with the files you'll be using.  Basically you'll use dvd decripter to get an AC3 file, then a conversion program to make it a wav file you can import.  There are links to the programs there and they should be free downloads.
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« Reply #99 on: September 10, 2009, 01:35:03 PM »

I use the EXACT same procedure to record my iRiffs (Windows Media Player + Audacity) and I've never had a problem. I guess, make sure Audacity's recording at 44.1KHz, 32-bit float sample format, both of those can be found under "Edit - Preferences" in Audacity.

I also know that Media Player has a slider to control the speed that an audio file plays at, does it have one for DVD too?

If push comes to shove, you can apply a tempo changer in Audacity and either slow down or speed up your riff audio as needed to match the DVD audio.
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« Reply #100 on: September 16, 2009, 01:43:06 PM »

I had terrible problems syncing my crew's first iRiff in Audacity, so much that I was about to quit.  Ultimately I bought Vegas Movie Studio 9.0, which was around $100, and had to edit the audio along with the movie to get it exactly right. 
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« Reply #101 on: September 17, 2009, 08:53:33 AM »

  I'm not familiar with the Express versions, but Final Cut Pro is the best video editing software out there.
That's one opinion.
Personally, I swear by Vegas (as do many long-time professionals that I've met).  I've been using it for years, since it was under Sonic Foundry instead of Sony.  It's rock solid for both video and stand-alone audio.  Superfluous bells and whistles don't impress me.
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« Reply #102 on: September 17, 2009, 11:34:42 AM »

  I'm not familiar with the Express versions, but Final Cut Pro is the best video editing software out there.
That's one opinion.
Personally, I swear by Vegas (as do many long-time professionals that I've met).  I've been using it for years, since it was under Sonic Foundry instead of Sony.  It's rock solid for both video and stand-alone audio.  Superfluous bells and whistles don't impress me.

 We use (and indeed have always used) Sony Vegas for our riffs. Since neither Keith nor I had ever worked with video-editing software before, there was a pretty severe learning curve as we taught ourselves how to use it. We now know enough of the basics to make iRiffs, create samples, and the like. There are still a lot of headaches that pop up (though most of it comes from using ripped DVDs, not really from Vegas itself), and I'm sure we've barely scratched the surface of what Vegas is really capable of, but I'd say it's a pretty decent system to use for iRiffs at the end of the day. Keep in mind, I've never used Final Cut Pro, so I can't compare the two. But if you don't mind a bit of a learning curve and have the $100 to spare, I'd recommend Sony Vegas.
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« Reply #103 on: September 17, 2009, 05:13:57 PM »


 We use (and indeed have always used) Sony Vegas for our riffs. Since neither Keith nor I had ever worked with video-editing software before, there was a pretty severe learning curve as we taught ourselves how to use it. We now know enough of the basics to make iRiffs, create samples, and the like. There are still a lot of headaches that pop up (though most of it comes from using ripped DVDs, not really from Vegas itself), and I'm sure we've barely scratched the surface of what Vegas is really capable of, but I'd say it's a pretty decent system to use for iRiffs at the end of the day. Keep in mind, I've never used Final Cut Pro, so I can't compare the two. But if you don't mind a bit of a learning curve and have the $100 to spare, I'd recommend Sony Vegas.

I tried using the demo version of Sony Vegas on Superman Returns and for some reason it imported the movie with the Spanish language track.  This rather bothered me and discouraged me from buying the full version.  Perhaps it was a quirk with the movie.  It also converted the VOB files into mpgs so it took up more space on my hard drive.  Clearly it is good software for most but it was flukey for me.  AVS 4 you isn't nearly as robust but it imports the movie without converting it to another format and the demo version is usable indefinitely.  The demo is no good for a VOD since it will leave a water mark but if you just need to record with playback it's fine and you can just use the MP3 project files.
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« Reply #104 on: October 02, 2009, 06:38:43 PM »

Not sure if it it's been answered, but every time I say something too loud, or sometimes for other reasons audacity cracklesor has static, it's hard to do the audio in one take and make sure volume levels are ok (I will be singing at one point), so any suggestions?
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